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Title: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: macson on July 22, 2021, 06:43:08 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?





Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: teosanru on July 22, 2021, 07:18:04 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?




Normally a person who enters the market enters as a trader/ speculato with hot blood and high hopes thinking that he can defeat the market. Such a person makes huge profits in the bull run and thinks that he is imminent and there is no better trader than him but then there is a bear run in which he loses almost everything he earned during the bull run and decides to become an Investor or a long term Investor, then comes the bull run again and the same cycle gets repeated again. I think 70% of people here would agree that once in their life they have been this kind of a person.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: maju69 on July 22, 2021, 07:55:38 PM
Classifying into 3 types, I think you missed how investors can become traders and can become speculators. When these points are intertwined with each other. Classifying and separating will do nothing. In cryptocurrency, you have to be all that is needed. because one field is not enough. Need to be anyone and you'll have a more rewarding level of mastery.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: just_Alice on July 22, 2021, 09:33:40 PM
I’d categorize myself as an investor as well. Trading isn't really my thing. I know people can make decent money out of it, might be even more profitable and guaranteed than long-term investment, and the return is faster, but I assume one has to spend a large amount of time on it to actually make something out of it, whereas investment only requires to analyze the situation once (before making an investment), accurately distribute your funds among the best candidates, and then just wait patiently.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: DatKing on July 22, 2021, 09:41:47 PM
I'm not only an investor but also a bit of a trader. I usually make long-term investments but sometimes I prefer short-term ones also. And I make the short-term investments with altcoins rather than Bitcoin. Because I don't think that Bitcoin is very ideal for that.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Gozie51 on July 22, 2021, 10:15:32 PM


i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?


The investor, trader and speculator are same IMO. Before you become investor you must speculate price direction which could be a reason to invest. Also, when you buy and hodl, you are also investing. Although for a trader, it should be faster turn over rather than a hodl who intends to hodl for long but I consider both and the three as both doing same thing. Therefore, I practice them but  investing is substitute for trading.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Quidat on July 22, 2021, 10:28:32 PM

- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.


Im both investor and trader.I do love to see short term profits and do save out those profits for long term ones which would really be giving out that advantage even though this do really
require lots of work and time and of course money but it would really be worth of if you do really know on what you are doing.It doesnt matter whether which one of those things
as long you do earn profits then that what matter the most and since people does have different situations or status in life in terms of money and time then decisions
will vary into each person.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Koro-Sensei on July 22, 2021, 10:53:34 PM
I am more an investor. A lil bit of trader and sometimes an speculator. When I believe in a project, I hold it for years and accumulating more and more while if I see a general trend which is good to trade, I somehow earn from it within months. I love seeing my small profits and cashing out it but still future purposes is far more important. Dividing your portfolio is a must.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Hydrogen on July 22, 2021, 10:56:48 PM
I think speculator is the entry level position everyone starts in. As they gain knowledge and experience to level up. They branch off into becoming an investor or trader, if not a hybrid of both.

These descriptions don't fully apply to cryptocurrency finance, FOREX or precious metals. Even stock trading conforms less to these descriptions than they once did. Due to market price trends being defined more by QE than by basic market mechanics. When QE is responsible for upwards 90% of price trends, everyone in a sense, becomes a speculator. Gamestop and doge pumps coupled with the randomness of price trend timing on Elon Musk social media posts illustrate this to a degree.

Speculation is probably a broader term than most realize. Even precious metals and commodities are not free of it.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Oceat on July 22, 2021, 11:16:16 PM
I am more on an investor but I think everyone starts with the term as a speculator before you can call them like investors or traders. Everyone starts with the very low level if they don't have a vast experience and knowledge yet. And then you can see most of them turn to traders but most of them turn to investors or holder for a long term plan.

I believe that speculator is the first level then investors is the second trader is the third due its complexity of how to gain profit in my opinion.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on July 23, 2021, 06:25:51 AM
I am more of a mix of investor and speculator because I gamble a percentage of my capital by putting them in risky and new coins hoping that they will yield some sort of money. So far, it's doing good speculating because I made a decent money out of it vut I don't want that wins get over my head and risk an all in.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: maju69 on July 23, 2021, 03:12:06 PM
I am more on an investor but I think everyone starts with the term as a speculator before you can call them like investors or traders. Everyone starts with the very low level if they don't have a vast experience and knowledge yet. And then you can see most of them turn to traders but most of them turn to investors or holder for a long term plan.

I believe that speculator is the first level then investors is the second trader is the third due its complexity of how to gain profit in my opinion.

In fact, I can't even tell where my current position is, long-term investors are not very sufficient with current funds, as a trader of course knowledge in analyzing price movements and mastery of TA are still minimal, and as a gambler it's not a good habit for now. Moreover, the pandemic has made me to save more than before in order to survive in conditions that are enough to rob the management of the economy.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: tulusikhlas on July 23, 2021, 03:18:49 PM
I prefer to be an investor for conditions like now and take advantage of Bitcoin corrections at any price. no matter what percentage drop I will take it. and it has been proven that until now I will choose this path as a way to support the long term and take profits in the future.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Kez1817 on July 23, 2021, 03:38:58 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?





I think that three types you mentioned is just one because a trader is also an investor(short term investor) and also a speculator. Trader always speculate the price movement of a coin based on the graph and price indicator in the market while making a buy and sell. Investors are classified into two: Long term and short term investor.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Rikafip on July 23, 2021, 04:00:57 PM
I would say that I am investor for the last couple of years. I started as trader/speculator as many other newbies, but luckily I realized that I was terrible at that so instead focused on the long term, which worked like a charm for now,so no point changing the approach.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Ucy on July 23, 2021, 04:04:14 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?




So, what do you call those who profit from price prediction without taking big risk (or gambling)? I think typical trading on regular exchanges mostly involves price predictions.... Traders buy and set a price target they hope a coin will hit in the future to sell and make profit. That is predicting/betting on price. Taking big betting risk would be considered gambling. I actually prefer investing and the typical price prediction


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: maisao1991 on July 23, 2021, 04:30:21 PM
I am a person who likes to invest and hold long term, sometimes I also have a short-term trading business but very rarely I enter that type of business. because in my opinion I feel slow but sure.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: perryxi2 on July 23, 2021, 04:46:49 PM
I am the 2nd type you listed, because I like to take risks, I usually buy low and sell high, but of course I win a lot, as a trader you should have your target limit, not too greedy and not afraid. when the market is heavily bearish.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: ReiMomo on July 23, 2021, 07:24:11 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?





As per what you mentioned above, I am a trader. I have invested in few coins. I have split my investment into all these five coins. I move from one to other. But obviously traders do wait for market to correct itself. A part of amount is kept idle without investing in any of the coins. This part of amount will be used to average and get out of lose. Those who trade really knows what I meant here.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: goaldigger on July 23, 2021, 07:54:08 PM
I do invest and trade most of the time because I can’t afford to miss some opportunities here in the market especially if there’s a hype on some project so I have to trade with it and be active to make some profit.

Being investor for long term is quiet boring seriously but holding a good coins is always a good decision. Whatever you are doing right now as long as you are consistent on making money that’s a good strategy, just be consistent.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: imstillthebest on July 23, 2021, 08:43:26 PM
in school we have financial or economic subjects and pretty sure they educate us this but is there more in his videos ?
Because this are just basics and most of us here already know what investor , trader and speculator means .
and he didn't include holder,
 Can't say that its covered in investor because there are people that don't invest money but they only work and hold their earnings  and they are speculating at the same time .


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on July 23, 2021, 09:20:24 PM
I prefer ti be investor, being a trader is really mentally exhausting and being speculator brings no good because as you know from irs name speculstor means its just speculative. Being investor you can invest to a promising project and then keave it doesnt matter how the price will move you gonna tske profit when its time so no need to rush. Meanwhile the other need timing and luck as the biggest factor that determinr your profit.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: kawetsriyanto on July 23, 2021, 09:33:07 PM
Maybe the combination of both investors and also traders.
I personally have some assets in which I target them for certain long-term periods.
But, I am also a trader to get profits daily although I am not an active daytrade.
So, the category will depend on people who do that and also may be combined as well as long as we can get and do that.
About speculator, sometimes, we are speculating market although we have been analyzing the chart and others. But of course, a good trader will not risk their funds by only specualting, but always by analzying


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Wakate on July 23, 2021, 09:49:36 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?




Whether you are trader or investor, the main goal is to make profits. Everyone want to make money so which ever way that can provide profit will be my direction. To me it's easy to invest because it doesn't require being skilled at all but trading needs so many tools to determine the market and the direction it is likable to go.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Silberman on July 23, 2021, 10:28:38 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?




I am an investor but as sad as this may sound the majority of the people in this market are speculators, they do not really know what they are doing and for the most part they are hoping that the coin in which they invested goes up, and even if they are lucky enough for this to happen to them the majority still lose money as they do not know when to sell and they hold their coins for too long and lose money in the process, I would like for this to change but since newbies want fast profits this is unlikely to happen.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Spack17 on July 23, 2021, 10:38:08 PM
I'm not only an investor but also a trader actually. I like to make short-term and long-term investments into cryptocurrencies. I go for short-term when the market is really active and we see positive movements. I prefer long-term ones when the market is passive and we see the dip. This my strategy in the recent times and I'm happy about it.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: dothebeats on July 23, 2021, 11:05:33 PM
I would tag myself as an investor. I've been investing and forgetting my holdings for quite some time now, and so far the strategy has been working very well for me. I don't really concern myself too much on the details of investing, nor do I immerse myself on best trading strategies to maximize the profits that I may have. I do have other sources of income so I don't concern myself too much on making more money than I need to.

I tried trading for a short while but I just can't really get myself to learn the ropes of that side of the board. I'll lose money faster than I'll ever recover if I continued that venture :D


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Snappycoco on July 24, 2021, 04:43:02 AM
I am purely an investor. I am trying to find good videos and tutorials about trading but it seems like trading is a gamble. I played it safe and holding any of my investment assets for years to come. It is most probably the best thing in cryptocurrency world where most of the alts are significantly going upward in price motion within years and not just months.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Kittygalore on July 24, 2021, 05:00:54 AM
I am both of an investor and a speculator because I risk some of my profits by investing it on different altcoins and NFTs that I think has a really bright future and I really don't want to miss out on the profits that I will get out of it in the future plus I can afford becoming a speculator since I am still young and I am still not bound to death if I were to make some mistakes.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: zanezane on July 24, 2021, 05:04:25 AM
I am both of an investor and a speculator because I risk some of my profits by investing it on different altcoins and NFTs that I think has a really bright future and I really don't want to miss out on the profits that I will get out of it in the future plus I can afford becoming a speculator since I am still young and I am still not bound to death if I were to make some mistakes.
I was hit right on the spot by your words about being young and being able to afford to do mistakes, I think that if I had known that kind of thing back then, I wouldn't have played the game safe which ended biting me in the ass. I wish that other newbies and young people can see this. Don't take @Kittygalore's words literally regarding mistake, the mistakes that @Kittygalore is talking about is probably the one's where it doesn't involve doing crimes.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Scarlett7777 on July 24, 2021, 06:29:53 AM
I prefer to be a trader, because of my limited capital, I choose to become a trader. looking for profit every time even if it is small.
In my opinion, it is very ineffective if you choose to be an investor with a small capital, you will get very little profit. so I choose to take less risk for bigger profits by trading all the time taking profits every time even in small amounts too.
I will put out a part of the funds for long-term holding, and also use a part of the funds for contracts or leverage. Long-term holding is because you believe in the market. I still think that long-term holding is the most correct approach, but why should I take some speculation? If I hold the currency for a long time, I will become insensitive to the market. I will start not paying attention to the market, not paying attention to the market, not paying attention to the news, not paying attention to new products. This will make me regress, so I will do a good job of fund allocation, long-term holding can go to some DEFI products for financial management, speculators can exercise their sensitivity to the market, and keep pace with the market.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: XUNing on July 24, 2021, 09:15:20 AM
I prefer Bitcoin investors. Many people began to buy a lot when Bitcoin was only worth hundreds of dollars. They were influenced by a firm belief trend. These people often followed the creed of only buying and not selling, which also made them very profitable. When the price of Bitcoin fluctuates sharply, based on strong beliefs, he is not worried about it and he firmly believes that Bitcoin will rebound sharply and will buy some Bitcoin.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Oasisman on July 24, 2021, 12:16:10 PM
Well, investor also has two categories.
First is the long term investors. Second, the get rich quick mindset newbie investors. Though some of them aren't really a newbie at all, just a FOMOer who usually rides to a pumping shitcoin lol.
Seriously, all of them are called investors, may it be short or long term trader, a speculator, or even a manipulator. Once you put your money into a stock, cryptocurrency, or forex you're called investor.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Renampun on July 24, 2021, 01:42:07 PM
I am an investor and trader...

I hold my BTC long-term for my investment and do short-term altcoin trade. I can't focus on trading too often so I prefer to trade weekly. btw, being a Bitcoin investor is quite relaxing because the price of BTC is volatile so it makes it more comfortable to hold it long term.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: sapnu on July 24, 2021, 02:23:40 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?




I tend to exercise my capability of being the three. I am an investor and I am currently investing on bitcoin and ethereum right now as well as diversifying some of it on some potential altcoins that I see. Also, I am a trader and I do it on some altcoins I currently see that are booming right now. Being a speculator for me is necessary whenever you are investing or trading, through being a speculator, you get to have the chance to know what's on trend or the current situation in the market making you capable of making the right decisions that will mostly benefit you in the future.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: pealr12 on July 24, 2021, 05:41:07 PM
90% investor and 10% occasional trader, since am terrible at doing day trading I only buy and sell at intervals and not on a daily basis, buying and holding for long term gives a piece of mind because you are not required to do anything else than just wait patiently at the right time to sell unlike day trading, and from the response of many members here, investors seem to be the top players.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on July 24, 2021, 06:08:29 PM
The Genesis of all is capital, an investor is also a trader because both of them is seeking the same thing which is finance, it's obvious that they have different functions or perspectives during transaction and also different profit and lost, but in this aspect we are emphasising on how productive each everyone of them can yield within a specific period of time, actually i preferred buying and selling of cryptocurrency instantly than to hold for a period of time or trade, because i understand that trading can equally caused big amount of lost or neither profit if not well handled,


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Gozie51 on July 24, 2021, 06:16:35 PM
because i understand that trading can equally caused big amount of lost or neither profit if not well handled,

This is why it is called trading. A good trader doesn't look at loses first but the potential of gains before loses and that is why they call Return On Investment (ROI). ROI is why the rich keep getting rich because to look for and research on how the probability of profit is near. Yes trading is risky but it is just risky like any other business and the most riskier is not taking the risk at all.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: paxmao on July 24, 2021, 06:50:07 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?


There is something that needs to be clarified: Staying in something for the long or short term (which are already not equal to  everyone), does not make you an speculator or an investor. Speculation is mostly about thinking that someone else is going to pay more for the stuff than what you paid, can be short or long term, for the stuff you buy. An investors believes that the stuff he or she is buying is worth more than the price being paid and that is based on some short of systematic study, more or less well done.

I consider myself an investor.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Johnyz on July 24, 2021, 09:44:56 PM
90% investor and 10% occasional trader, since am terrible at doing day trading I only buy and sell at intervals and not on a daily basis, buying and holding for long term gives a piece of mind because you are not required to do anything else than just wait patiently at the right time to sell unlike day trading, and from the response of many members here, investors seem to be the top players.
I’d love the percentage of this one since I’m also an occasional trader and My percentage is that 90% Investing, 7% trading and 3% gambling like I’m really trying to maximize cryptomarket with a more conservative for a future possible profit.

Investors are just waiting for the right time and most of the whales are doing this, they are the top player that want huge return in the coming years and they believe on this market. Investing is more profitable with the good projects, don’t buy new tokens for long term purposes.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: TelolettOm on July 24, 2021, 10:39:39 PM
Isn't it when we don't really know what will happen in the future including speculators? In any case?
Just as most people have predicted that Bitcoin prices will continue to soar a few months ago. The analysis was very done carefully and thoroughly and filled with calculations.
But suddenly the market dropped even more than -40% at that time because of some FUDs.
Then, don't both investors and traders also mean speculators?
However, in this case, a speculator is like what he is, the speculator is only speculating without analysis and analysis. If without more analysis to the origin of guess and luck.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: verita1 on July 24, 2021, 11:51:16 PM
I like being an investor and trader. I have never practiced it before thanks to bitcoin for making it possible.
I wish other people can know how to get started with bitcoin.
It is time for more people to enter our space. I am anxious to see the impact of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in my region of Latin America.
Because we will be a good point of reference for development, especially for reducing the poor and increasing employment rates.

Returning to the topic of being an investor and a trader. It is important when we support decentralized finance projects with our investments because we allow technological advancement in this sector. According to the statistics the trader activities are providing a new income to the individuals by which I can confirm this data.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: pinggoki on July 24, 2021, 11:55:04 PM
Not being big on the technicalities that you will require in order to become an effective trader, I mostly dabble on investments and put my money on the ones that I saw are able to weather whatever crisis is put through them like bitcoin and ethereum. Speculations I do sometimes but only on coins I believe will give me profit in the long run once again. This has been very effective for me despite the fact that as a speculator I basically just eye out a coin and whether I invest or not is based on if I like the coin's model or not.
Isn't it when we don't really know what will happen in the future including speculators? In any case?
Just as most people have predicted that Bitcoin prices will continue to soar a few months ago. The analysis was very done carefully and thoroughly and filled with calculations.
But suddenly the market dropped even more than -40% at that time because of some FUDs.
Then, don't both investors and traders also mean speculators?
However, in this case, a speculator is like what he is, the speculator is only speculating without analysis and analysis. If without more analysis to the origin of guess and luck.
You know what this makes sense, at least putting the so-called speculators in a much more desirable spectrum rather than be labeled as blindly following a coin they like. Sometimes we don't really know if a coin is gonna pump or dump in the future but we do have graphs and sources of info that could help us predict the price and make an educated guess.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: sheenshane on July 24, 2021, 11:59:39 PM
- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?
Investors, I have an altcoin on my portfolio that considering a huge amount aside from Bitcoin and I believed that these coins that I picked into my portfolio will give the highest ROI when the right time will come.  Once these coins were on my cold wallet, I will never touch them again or open my cold wallet because they are intended for a long-term investment.

Sometimes I do trade on the leading exchange now but that is spot trading, I don't like day trading it gives me more stress because I'm a kinda busy person because I have a job and small business in a real life.  So the choices are on investor and the spot trading or long-term trading.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Xinarae* on July 25, 2021, 03:29:17 AM
I usually prefer to invest because the risk is much less here and it is much more profitable to invest in currencies like bitcoin for a long period of time. Not too efficient for other businesses for professional players they can make a profit in all kinds of business they have a good knowledge of the market investment is not a lottery ticket if luck is good, it will make you much richer in an instant. This is called gambling and you can play it at least there are some rules of the game and you can calculate exactly where your differences are.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: breathlessz on July 25, 2021, 04:13:48 AM
I am more inclined towards investors, because I am looking for safety of funds, and also I am still learning to trade. for speculators, I guess I still haven't dared to lose the funds, because they are very valuable to me. but in the future maybe I will do all three to achieve financial freedom, I realize to achieve it requires a long process


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: sulis sudibyo on July 25, 2021, 04:33:50 AM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?





I am also an investor. because I don't really understand about analyzing and understanding the market situation. I only buy when the coin is going down and sell when the coin is going up. even so I do not have large funds for long-term investment. that's why i only buy big coins like bitcoin and ethereum. it's much safer when I hold it long term. and these two coins still have hope of going up. so I just need to believe and patiently wait.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on July 25, 2021, 09:39:12 AM
For now it seems that I prefer to apply the principle of long-term investment in bitcoin, let's say a speculative investor with a top marketcap coin. and also for the last few years I have been saving regularly in crypto, in the past I might have traded more often with short-term daily and now I may be more relaxed and not watch the market chart every hour maybe just a few days. because if it is required to hold long term mentally and financially I am ready.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: guydin on July 25, 2021, 01:31:15 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?




I don't completely agree with these three types of people in the market as I think that investors in crypto also speculate on it, as they buy and wait for the price to increase in some years. But it always increases when there are people who want to buy, and it pumps the price. So I am an investor, as I buy Bitcoin and don’t sell it any more now, because I am going to wait 5 and more years, and I believe that other parties will dare to pay higher for it later.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Ngemmeng on July 25, 2021, 01:46:42 PM
I am the same as you, I am an investor who buys altcoins at very low prices. I bought an altcoin which I think its price could increase very high in the future. I'm not an investor with a large capital, so I don't think it's appropriate to invest in bitcoin or ethereum. The capital I use is purely from bounties and airdrops, and I also use the money for daily needs.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Tumanggor on July 25, 2021, 08:12:55 PM
I am the same as you, I am an investor who buys altcoins at very low prices. I bought an altcoin which I think its price could increase very high in the future. I'm not an investor with a large capital, so I don't think it's appropriate to invest in bitcoin or ethereum. The capital I use is purely from bounties and airdrops, and I also use the money for daily needs.
I am also like you, I am an investor too
My basic is programming and I work in a small IT company, I don't have much time to pay attention to market conditions or others

I once tried to be a trader but ended up being a speculator and panicked during a bear market
I am trying to change my perception to continue investing in Bitcoin and other potential altcoins for the long term and will not sell my crypto assets for necessities because I still have a salary at my offline job


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Kakmakr on July 25, 2021, 09:17:41 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?

Robert kiyosaki also had a rich dad and a poor dad... and his poor dad was a hard working employer with a Pension Fund. The problem is, his poor dad never acquired the skills and knowledge to be an investor or a trader or a speculator. His rich dad on the other hand, acquired the knowledge and he was very successful when he applied it.

Traditional investing back then had a lot of barriers to entry for the unskilled, because the rich wanted to stay rich to hold onto the power. Now, with Crypto currencies..... ANYONE can still have their day job and also be an investor or a trader or a speculator ..or all three.  ;)


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: bluebit25 on July 26, 2021, 03:17:19 AM
I find myself getting all the things the OP gave me. After many years of being involved in this field, the trust I have with it is really strong, I feel that I will stick with and accompany this market as part of my life.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: BuNga_cute on July 26, 2021, 04:38:05 AM
I am the same as you, I am an investor who buys altcoins at very low prices. I bought an altcoin which I think its price could increase very high in the future. I'm not an investor with a large capital, so I don't think it's appropriate to invest in bitcoin or ethereum. The capital I use is purely from bounties and airdrops, and I also use the money for daily needs.
I am also like you, I am an investor too
My basic is programming and I work in a small IT company, I don't have much time to pay attention to market conditions or others

I once tried to be a trader but ended up being a speculator and panicked during a bear market
I am trying to change my perception to continue investing in Bitcoin and other potential altcoins for the long term and will not sell my crypto assets for necessities because I still have a salary at my offline job

If we really don't have much time to monitor prices in the market, and don't have good analytical skills too, it's best not to force trading. Because
there we will be speculators and can lose all the capital we have, not everyone can succeed in profiting from trading. Indeed, the reality of trading is
not as easy as we imagine, so it's better to be an investor. Because being an investor is much easier and there is no need to monitor the market
too often, we only need to buy potential coins on a regular basis and hold until we reach the target we want.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Silberman on July 26, 2021, 10:23:32 PM
Well, investor also has two categories.
First is the long term investors. Second, the get rich quick mindset newbie investors. Though some of them aren't really a newbie at all, just a FOMOer who usually rides to a pumping shitcoin lol.
Seriously, all of them are called investors, may it be short or long term trader, a speculator, or even a manipulator. Once you put your money into a stock, cryptocurrency, or forex you're called investor.
While it is true that investors come in all kind of forms and sizes at the same time a great deal of those newbies investors do not really do a lot of the things that investors need to do in order to try to make sure they are taking the right decisions, and this is problematic because a few of them are able to make money the very first time they invest and then they believe that they do not really need anything else in order to succeed only to realize this is not the case but by the time they recognize this most likely a great deal of their money has been lost to the markets already.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: finaleshot2016 on July 26, 2021, 10:40:52 PM
I switched from being an investor to a trader because I wanted to take advantage of the potential to expand my money, and joining the market craze is one of the simplest methods to do it.

But most of the time, I'm just a simple investor holding my assets; I've been here since 2016 and my portfolio is still doing well, and I'm still waiting for a simple x10 market pump.

To be honest, shifting from an investor to a trader is not easy; you must consider all of the essentials, such as market analysis.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: TheGreatPython on July 28, 2021, 04:35:16 PM
I will put out a part of the funds for long-term holding, and also use a part of the funds for contracts or leverage. Long-term holding is because you believe in the market. I still think that long-term holding is the most correct approach, but why should I take some speculation? If I hold the currency for a long time, I will become insensitive to the market. I will start not paying attention to the market, not paying attention to the market, not paying attention to the news, not paying attention to new products. This will make me regress, so I will do a good job of fund allocation, long-term holding can go to some DEFI products for financial management, speculators can exercise their sensitivity to the market, and keep pace with the market.
This is basically what keeps anyone going. I have seen people who do only long term investment and that's good, but they end up basically putting it there and forgetting about it and not even checking up what is going on in crypto world, I could ask them what the price of bitcoin is today and they may not end up knowing it. Is this really bad? Not really, if it works for them then it is a good way to make a profit out of crypto world.

However I like crypto way too much to stop checking it out, so what did I do? Most of my investment is in btc-eth-bnb and for very long term, I am not trading them or selling them, I have 2-3 other smaller coins that I invest long term as well but in very small amounts. Whatever is left after those investments goes straight into risky stuff, defi, trading, leverages (rarely) and everything else, even got myself an NFT once.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Dragonfund on July 28, 2021, 09:15:25 PM
I'm not only an investor but also a bit of a trader. I usually make long-term investments but sometimes I prefer short-term ones also. And I make the short-term investments with altcoins rather than Bitcoin. Because I don't think that Bitcoin is very ideal for that.

Been a good trader is more profitable than investing a time. There was a period I checked my PNL on my trading portfolio and I was wow how I made 300% within 19 days and the only coin I was scalping then was SXP, thanks to their testnet news that was coming up, it boosted the market volume and many where buying.
It's good to be an investor though, there are some pumps one shouldn't dare to trade, it's better off you hold while your portfolio dances to profits.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: EvieLannister on July 29, 2021, 08:18:45 AM
Everyone is basically an investor and a trader,
I am an investor and trader, but in fact I prefer speculation. I now hold Bitcoin and Ethereum for a long time. For altcoins, I tend to trade frequently, and I will also pay attention to some new tokens. Although there are risks, some of them have higher profits.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: ROSERTY on July 29, 2021, 08:35:30 AM
I prefer investing and trading.
  • Investing in Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies with a long history of development and complete technology, as the use of cryptocurrencies increases and people's consensus increases, the value of cryptocurrencies will rise, and long-term holding will make a lot of profits.
  • Choose some cryptocurrencies by analyzing market trends, pay attention to price fluctuations, and buy and sell at the right time. Gain benefits through short-term transactions.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Rainbow-queen on July 29, 2021, 10:01:57 AM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"
- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?


I am a comprehensive investor.
I divided the funds into three parts,
INVESTOR:70% BTC,
TRADER:20% DOT,
SPECULATOR :10% meme coins.A small amount of capital gains high profits. However, there may be serious losses. High risk and high return.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: iv4n on July 29, 2021, 10:03:51 AM
When I first started I was a trader, but not a good one. I got invested too much in my trades and my stomach couldn't handle it, selling at bad moments. Managing your emotions as a trader every is hard and when you don't make enough returns it's not worth it. So I switched to become an investor a few years ago. Its better to sleep good at night and to not be anxious all the time for some lower profits.

I guess it's the beauty of crypto... you are free to try and practice whatever you want! And there's nothing wrong with trying many things, before finding what suits you. I believe most of us here are investors (99% of us have some coins on holding), most of us regularly trade (short, mid, long), and when we are actively participating in these two, for sure we are speculators, more or less! We all combine different things in crypto, what makes the difference is "how we do it"!


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Henrobakkara on July 29, 2021, 10:38:01 AM
I'm not only an investor but also a bit of a trader. I usually make long-term investments but sometimes I prefer short-term ones also. And I make the short-term investments with altcoins rather than Bitcoin. Because I don't think that Bitcoin is very ideal for that.
You are right. I believe most crypto traders will fall in these two categories without knowing it and like me also, I naturally like to hodl my crypto assets for a longer period of time but I wouldn't mind taking a trade if the opportunity in the market is right for a quick short term gain but never really focus much on regular day trading.   


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: dezoel on July 29, 2021, 10:48:42 AM
I am a full time investor and I am very happy with that. Sure I do trades time to time in small amounts but that is mostly about having fun, it is not a huge amount and I made a decent bit of a return during the last year as well, bought some coin and it went up (as did everything else) and sold it for some reason but bought some other coin and that went up as well (just like all others) and had stop loss while going down so all my trades made a decent profit but it just moved from 3-4% of my portfolio to 10% of my portfolio with those increases, nothing more which is why I am still not seeing myself as a trader.

All the rest of my money is in investment and I do not plan on using any of that until I absolutely have to, I just want to retire and do whatever I want one day and I need a lot of money for that, and in order to do that I need to make sure I can earn a decent amount each month from my capital as well. So I am not getting out for a long time.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Silberman on July 29, 2021, 10:15:35 PM
I switched from being an investor to a trader because I wanted to take advantage of the potential to expand my money, and joining the market craze is one of the simplest methods to do it.

But most of the time, I'm just a simple investor holding my assets; I've been here since 2016 and my portfolio is still doing well, and I'm still waiting for a simple x10 market pump.

To be honest, shifting from an investor to a trader is not easy; you must consider all of the essentials, such as market analysis.
Whether you go from a trader to an investor or from an investor to a trader this is a difficult transition to make and this is because the skills needed for each activity are in many occasions complete opposites from each other, so while an investor needs to be patient and hold their coins in the case the market goes against their prediction a trader needs to react incredibly quickly and get out of his position to avoid mounting losses, and this factor is one of the most important to explain why so many people fail on their transition.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: indrakusumaindra on July 30, 2021, 12:42:16 AM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?




Being a speculator is like chasing the waves when you get the right waves you will got a good profit but not every tide that you could ride which means being speculator and chasing pump could totaly goes wrong. I did consider myself as an investors instead speculator and trader, Trader put a lot pressure in my mind and there is too much emotions when it goes wrong. I think being investors and have long term goal its completly perfect for me. Being investors means you choose the right coins with potential and hold them for period of time and i think its the best way and im doing really fine doing it.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Xinarae* on July 30, 2021, 04:08:34 AM
At first I didn't have a good knowledge of the market so I lost a lot by going to trade. Regulatory bodies still remain largely the same in a rapidly changing market structure no such change has taken place neither in its tools nor in its course of action the biggest shortcoming of the regulatory agencies is its lack of curiosity the players have adapted themselves to adapt to the changed situation. But now I started investing I have earned a lot of money by investing and have had success.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: ali1177 on July 30, 2021, 04:48:38 AM
In the above mentioned option I am the one who invest money means investor. I used to be a trader in cryptocurrency but when I lose money in leverage trading I'd thought that I should invest money instead of trading because in long term we will have good portfolio if we invest Continuesly.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Golftech on July 30, 2021, 08:40:21 AM
At first I didn't have a good knowledge of the market so I lost a lot by going to trade. Regulatory bodies still remain largely the same in a rapidly changing market structure no such change has taken place neither in its tools nor in its course of action the biggest shortcoming of the regulatory agencies is its lack of curiosity the players have adapted themselves to adapt to the changed situation. But now I started investing I have earned a lot of money by investing and have had success.

Along the way, with your willingness to find the right patterns to succeed, trading is not a one time big time blowout.

it's a process where people/ traders needs to understand and make sure to keep learning, when executions comes

you always have a better chance of winning a trade.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: jinneas on July 31, 2021, 09:08:35 AM
I am an investor and trader.
  • I will choose Bitcoin for long-term holding. The entire crypto market needs Bitcoin. Despite its volatility, it is the most supported cryptocurrency in the world. With the strengthening of its demand and consensus, Bitcoin has a lot of room for appreciation in the future, and long-term holding will bring higher benefits.
  • Usually look for opportunities to buy or sell, and gain profits by buying at low prices and selling at high prices. When I see a decline, I don't want to miss the opportunity to buy more. It's easy to panic when I reach my price target or see the market start to fall, and I will sell some.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Connor Britton on July 31, 2021, 09:37:39 AM
I am an investor, but I occasionally act as a trader.
Because I am more optimistic about valuable long-term currencies such as Bitcoin and Ethereum, I will invest 30% of my salary, and I will also look at some altcoins for short-term or swing. I think I'm still conservative, I don't like taking risks. I like to accumulate less and make more. As long as the profit can sustain my daily life, I don't need a lot of profit.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: inanilujimi on July 31, 2021, 09:46:38 AM
I'm personally more of a trader and speculator than an investor, to be honest I don't have any more long term investments like BTC and ETH because I've sold them in a bull market this year, and now only trade and hope to make a little profit in a market that is difficult to predict this.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: AliMan on July 31, 2021, 12:44:05 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?





Let me say I am both trader and investor in a way that I used to hold for so many years even though I got shitcoins with slow growing community. Who knows, it would wake up from previous ath it reached during 2017 but until now there's no progress happening. What made me glad and positive is that their community was still active several aspects like developments and new endeavors.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Renampun on July 31, 2021, 12:58:42 PM
I'm personally more of a trader and speculator than an investor, to be honest I don't have any more long term investments like BTC and ETH because I've sold them in a bull market this year, and now only trade and hope to make a little profit in a market that is difficult to predict this.
as long as you keep earning from trading then it's better than being a long-term investor...

not everyone is suitable to be an investor, traders certainly don't like to see their assets not turning when the market is bull. After the bull market ends, most traders will definitely buy back at lower prices. being a trader is certainly very good.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Ngemmeng on July 31, 2021, 02:47:55 PM
I am the same as you, I am an investor who buys altcoins at very low prices. I bought an altcoin which I think its price could increase very high in the future. I'm not an investor with a large capital, so I don't think it's appropriate to invest in bitcoin or ethereum. The capital I use is purely from bounties and airdrops, and I also use the money for daily needs.
I am also like you, I am an investor too
My basic is programming and I work in a small IT company, I don't have much time to pay attention to market conditions or others

I once tried to be a trader but ended up being a speculator and panicked during a bear market
I am trying to change my perception to continue investing in Bitcoin and other potential altcoins for the long term and will not sell my crypto assets for necessities because I still have a salary at my offline job
A trader can be a speculator when he trades without using analysis. for busy people like you being a long-term investor is the most appropriate choice, especially if it's investing in large coins such as bitcoin or ethereum. but you have to have a fair amount of patience because bitcoin and ethereum have a bull market every few years.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: ILuckyGuyI on July 31, 2021, 03:09:09 PM
I'm an investor and a trader according to these definitions. Because I like to make investments for short-term and long-term both. But I'm more of an investor. I generally invest into Bitcoin for a long term and set a price goal to sell when it's reached.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: terrorJR on July 31, 2021, 04:02:24 PM
of all the comments here on average they claim to be investors and traders and it is quite clear I think everyone here is certainly doing the same thing, nothing is different. because to get the maximum profit, of course, there are only three choices here, the first is to become an investor, the second is to become a trader and the third is to do both, namely to be an investor as well as a trader. and this third option is the most chosen because actually it is not without reason that being an investor is mandatory for me because at least there are some coins whose volatility is very good for the long term besides that traders can also be options because traders tend to act with more consideration market sentiment and conditions. Second, traders tend to trade from a short-term perspective and this is great for increasing profits.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Ludmilla_rose1995 on July 31, 2021, 05:12:10 PM
I seem to be type one and two. I invest in Bitcoin for the long term and also do day trading on trending tokens. Usually, I use fundamental analysis. The point is, When a project is holding an event, I believe the token will go up. So I bought it before the event started. Usually an airdrop snapshot event.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: lenovop-70 on August 01, 2021, 03:38:55 AM
Its depend on where i put my money to invest, if i put it on big coin like BTC or ETH it will be my long investment, if i buy meme or shit coin, it will be two or five days and ill send it out. Sometimes i do futures trade too, so im combination from many market style who mentioned above, its just depend on what condition we are need to make profit. As your journey to be market player, you will know what exactly match with you and your actual condition, good luck!


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: kotajikikox on August 01, 2021, 04:43:03 AM



- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.

I am on this one , i love investing as holding my coins is one that i enjoy .. i also love seeing the value in fiat dropping and climbing .
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- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
I only do this few times before but i am not good at it so i decided to leave it there.
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- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.
I am having this, part of my funds are waiting for this chances sometimes.
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i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?

Perfect choice mate lol , we are all on this one because we trust bitcoin and we believe in the future of this market.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: inanilujimi on August 01, 2021, 06:42:41 AM
I'm personally more of a trader and speculator than an investor, to be honest I don't have any more long term investments like BTC and ETH because I've sold them in a bull market this year, and now only trade and hope to make a little profit in a market that is difficult to predict this.
as long as you keep earning from trading then it's better than being a long-term investor...

not everyone is suitable to be an investor, traders certainly don't like to see their assets not turning when the market is bull. After the bull market ends, most traders will definitely buy back at lower prices. being a trader is certainly very good.

that's right mate, everyone has their own way of producing something, depending on their respective skills according to their abilities. as long as he is ready to accept the consequences of what he did.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: AniviaBtc on August 01, 2021, 07:22:53 AM
Probably an investor and a trader, I just don't want to make my money sleep in one place and I want it to grow as long as I can.

That's the reason that pushed me to study the market and make accurate and suitable strategies for me to make my investment profitable not only in holding.

I believe in a high risk, high reward mindset where I can also think of the possibilities and move on easily to control my emotions.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Liamttw on August 02, 2021, 09:53:45 AM
According to these classifications, it may be investors and traders.
Short-term trading of cryptocurrencies can get faster returns, it is more profitable than long-term investment. But trading needs to analyze market trends and make correct judgments based on price indicators.
Investing should analyze the overall market trend, invest in a currency and hold it for a long time. When funds are sufficient, regularly increase its purchase volume. Don't sell off under the influence of market sentiment. After the market pulls back, it will continue to rise and will obtain high profits.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: awik p on August 02, 2021, 11:06:42 AM
I am personally more inclined to investing and trading, but honestly I admit that most of my funds, I invest in bitcoin, while for trading I am still in the learning stage. I think trading is not as easy as I imagined, because we need analysis, money management, and also psychology that must be maintained. different from investments where I will buy and leave it until it forms a new ath, or until I get a profit that is considered feasible. for speculation like gambling, I don't think I dare, because money is very valuable to me at this time


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: marilynmanson21 on August 02, 2021, 12:09:09 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?





I can't tell what type I belong to, but I think I'm a trader where I trade coins from airdrops, bounties and try to invest from these results for the long term,
but if to analyze coins and charts I can't, I only trade based on circumstances, at this time I'm still learning and continuing to learn about trading


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: TheMimic1 on August 02, 2021, 12:15:34 PM
Part time trader, holder and crypto miner, actually I prefer trading only in bull season, it gives me more chances to success trading and I buy coins only when market is in very bad situation for long term, as so mining I never stopped for once even when the market isn't in my favour


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: goldade on August 02, 2021, 12:47:31 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?






I think I'll place myself under investor class. I place trades once in a while when I have the time to study the charts but still, I wouldn't call myself a trader. The word is best suited to active day traders who trade on a daily basis.
What I do is just buy Bitcoin and some other altcoins and hold them for a particular period of time. That way, I can save myself the stress of trading and the high risk associated with it.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: lumeire on August 02, 2021, 01:27:50 PM
Part time trader, holder and crypto miner, actually I prefer trading only in bull season, it gives me more chances to success trading and I buy coins only when market is in very bad situation for long term, as so mining I never stopped for once even when the market isn't in my favour
How do you manage to get funds in the case of a recession, when the market is in a bad shape. Do you just keep the funds in the account and then invest them at the time of crash or you take a loan or something and then invest those funds. Cuz I have also tried waiting for the right time, but mostly I am not successful investing huge amounts at a single time because I never have that much saved at a single time.
I invest periodically and when the market crashes I invest whatever I have left inside my bank account which is generally very less to be honest.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: DU18 on August 02, 2021, 03:43:57 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?





I myself prefer to be a trader who makes short-term trades, even though the profits are small in trading the buying and selling method (ping pong) but this can at least provide continuous profits (even though sometimes we lose) and at least with short-term trading we can minimize losses that could occur, but the difficulty of being a short-term trader is that we have to continue to monitor price movements on computer screens or cellphones and that really makes us tired.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Assface16678 on August 02, 2021, 04:12:26 PM
I am on the investor side all the way, go for the long-term because I know that it's all going to pay off in the end especially if the investment is already guaranteed to make a lot of profit and has proven that it can grow. Speculator is definitely more on high risk and I don't think that I can be that person knowing that I always like to play safe if possible.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: ChrisPop on August 02, 2021, 04:35:13 PM
Robert Kiyosaki is a good teacher of financial education, but I wouldn't categorise them as such. There are long-term traders and short-term traders.

Investor = allocating of current resources in the hope of future, greater benefits (this includes money, time and others)

I think the financial world is messing with the terminology. A trader can also be considered an investor. He might be buying now in hope for a greater benefit today or after 6 months.
I consider a speculator someone who does not use a sound methodology to base its trades/investments on either random entries/exits or other people's opinions.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: oHnK on August 02, 2021, 04:41:25 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?





I myself prefer to be a trader who makes short-term trades, even though the profits are small in trading the buying and selling method (ping pong) but this can at least provide continuous profits (even though sometimes we lose) and at least with short-term trading we can minimize losses that could occur, but the difficulty of being a short-term trader is that we have to continue to monitor price movements on computer screens or cellphones and that really makes us tired.
That's the reason why I didn't choose to become a trader because it takes a lot of free time to pursue this field.  For those who still have 8 hours of work in the office, it will be very difficult to monitor their portfolio regularly. As a result, they usually use the services of an investment manager and believe that they end up being caught in a scam.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: terrorJR on August 02, 2021, 05:32:57 PM
Robert Kiyosaki is a good teacher of financial education, but I wouldn't categorise them as such. There are long-term traders and short-term traders.



I think the financial world is messing with the terminology. A trader can also be considered an investor. He might be buying now in hope for a greater benefit today or after 6 months.
I consider a speculator someone who does not use a sound methodology to base its trades/investments on either random entries/exits or other people's opinions.
Roughly speaking, it might be possible, but if it is more specified, traders cannot be equated with investors. although in the end, they will benefit from selling activities, but in detail, these traders are more inclined towards a shorter depth and in a faster tempo, in contrast to investors who prefer the long term, no matter how good the price or fluctuations are. price increases or decreases they will not really care in the short term because they prefer the long term period and they believe that in a certain time they will benefit.
the difference lies very little and can not be equated between one another.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: SquallLeonhart on August 02, 2021, 05:56:23 PM
- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?
Honestly it is not easy to just put yourself in one type, not everyone does one thing and calls it a day, we are doing many type of stuff all the time. I have some bitcoins that I invested for long time, I have some defi that I invested to farm, I have some small coins that I hope to see higher, I have some trading on the binance normal exchange that I like because I started with auto trading bots and it felt good and continued it with myself manually, I have some leverage trading done in my life but disliked it but it was there at one point.

Combine all of this together and you will realize that we are talking about something too complex to put into just one style, how can I say I am this or that when I like doing most of these and somehow can still name just one of them as something that explains me to the world? I can't do that at all.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Republikcoin.com on August 02, 2021, 08:55:34 PM
I am a person who likes long-term investments by buying coins or tokens that I really trust, and buying them when I get my paycheck.
In addition, 20% of my total monthly income is always allocated to buy and collect some crypto assets. In fact, I started actively using LTC to buy goods at Sellix or Shoppy, which are the marketplaces for the best digital goods.
I like to buy cryptocurrencies and keep them for a long time, besides that I also like to use them for daily purposes.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: JillianTaft on August 03, 2021, 09:43:51 AM
I have also entered the market in recent years. I heard news in the field of encryption from a friend. I am also based on speculative ideas, but I still don't know much about the market. For the first time, I chose Hundred Times currency, but I did not grasp it. I missed this opportunity. I think it is most important to increase my knowledge reserve. Now I am just an investor.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: 19Nov16 on August 03, 2021, 10:02:58 AM
I seem to be type one and two. I invest in Bitcoin for the long term and also do day trading on trending tokens. Usually, I use fundamental analysis. The point is, When a project is holding an event, I believe the token will go up. So I bought it before the event started. Usually an airdrop snapshot event.

As long as we know that the project is real and not a scam then I never hesitate to invest, I've been following an ICO since 2015 and the results are very satisfying, even though I was also hit by a scam but the profit I got was able to cover the money that was hit by the scam. in addition to investing in ICOs, of course holding top coins (btc, eth, ada, etc) is something we must do.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: gustavroy on August 03, 2021, 11:10:10 AM
I am a bit investor and bit speculator but not a gambler at all. Let me clerify. Short term treding is not for me. I am trying to find and invest low market cap coins and gems. Yes this can make me a bit speculator but not a gambler at all.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: bitzizzix on August 03, 2021, 11:33:41 AM
I think it all depends on each situation and circumstances, because I have a real job from morning to evening so I choose to invest long term.
I buy every month a small part of my salary and hold it for the long term and I choose to be safe and also look at my time after work I really need a break and I enjoy that way and the benefits are satisfying.
and once tried trading and it turned out that I didn't have the trading skills and time to do it, and finally I chose to invest long term.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: magneto on August 03, 2021, 12:19:57 PM
I'd say that if you think you are a trader, you are likely not a trader. You are a speculator.

Institutional market makers mean that there is pretty much no inefficiecies for the average trader who does not even operate a bot. Research has shown that hyperactive trading simply leads to below average market returns since brokerage can quickly add up, and the negative EV accumulates.

Patience is so important in the investing business - you need to be absolutely willing to hold an investment for decades until your thesis is proven.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Lubang Bawah on August 03, 2021, 03:06:01 PM
The first thing I know about crypto and trading is that I like to invest and buy new listed coins, I will focus on at least 3 new listed coins and buy according to the target, when I get at least 3x profit then I will sell my initial capital and hold profit, and this proved to be effective for getting big profit.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Hughes_Ryan on August 03, 2021, 04:16:06 PM
i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?
I have a bit of hesitation between speculator and trader, maybe my personality is more suitable for speculator by identifying and seizing opportunities, but I am also quite narrow-minded.  Sometimes I can take profits whenever, you know, sometimes in a state of extreme stress, you often get emotional.  I only take short-term profits.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: topbitcoin on August 03, 2021, 06:27:24 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?




I am investor who speculate and hopes that my coins will increased. Honestly i am almost zero knowledge in technical analysis. What i did only save BTC or maybe BNB and ETH and keep it in my local exchanges and not sell it if not in urgent situation. Sometimes, i sell cheaper like ETH which sold at maybe around $800 before pumped to peak.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Caldear on August 04, 2021, 08:04:15 AM
I prefer to invest in cryptocurrencies. Because it is easier for investors to buy cryptocurrency and hold it for a long time, don't worry about market price changes, insisting on holding it for a long time will eventually gain benefits.
Now I can’t do a better deal. Although trading may even be more profitable and quicker than long-term investment, I think it takes a lot of time to analyze market trends and make correct judgments in order to obtain more benefits through trading.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: NathanielParker on August 04, 2021, 08:12:50 AM
I should belong to an investor and a trader, because I have held Bitcoin for a long time and also invested in some altcoins. I believe in the future of Bitcoin, but I also like short-term profits, which will be a good way in the cryptocurrency market. For me, after entering the market, I have accumulated a lot of experience and accumulated a lot of market knowledge.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Shamm on August 04, 2021, 08:29:05 AM
   Me I'm belong to market player of trader as of now it's seek to Short term profits also selling and buying it's like again in again. I'm not really know how to analyze but still I want to learn an get more knowledge.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Nora Olin on August 04, 2021, 09:04:53 AM
When I first started, I listened to the suggestions of friends and started to contact Bitcoin, because the characteristics and stability of Bitcoin are better than other currencies, and the risk is relatively low. In the process of learning and understanding, I found the temptation of altcoins more attractive. Some newly listed coins are very surprising. For recent altcoins such as Whale Fall, I chose to buy them as soon as they were issued, and the considerable gains did not disappoint me.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: perfect999 on August 04, 2021, 02:36:55 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?
I’m an investor for now, and it is really good to be an investor, that’s like the easiest thing anyone can be here. But I have plans to become a trader and I am working towards that. I keep learning every day to understand how the market really works, and I have a few friends that are traders as well.

Investment is really good and one of the good things about it is that it is the easiest anyone can do now, and there is more opportunity for you to make profit if you’re able to invest the right time and hold for a long time, the market will surely go up and you’re going to make profit. Then the good thing about trading is that when you’re really good at it there is an opportunity for you to be making steady profit from the market.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Desmong on August 04, 2021, 08:54:39 PM
I am both an investor and a trader, have no business with speculators that to induce traders and investors to look be into their ideas without concrete and specific reasoning. I find trading more interesting and profits enthusiastic than just waiting and continuously waiting for the right time from the market to bring fortune. Trading risky with so.e level of determination making it segregative for specific traders who gat what it take to pull in.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 05, 2021, 07:23:07 PM
   Me I'm belong to market player of trader as of now it's seek to Short term profits also selling and buying it's like again in again. I'm not really know how to analyze but still I want to learn an get more knowledge.

Before starting I advise you to read some books, in my case I have learned a lot about Wyckoff's theory, from Jesse Livermore, the fact that you get into short-term trading is very necessary that you become an expert in technical analysis , but nevertheless before getting there it is good that you can learn to understand how the market moves, if you combine the fundamental analysis with the technical one I think your chances of success will increase, now if you can trade with play money first before making your operations It would also be very prudent.



Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: stomachgrowls on August 05, 2021, 07:40:00 PM
Robert kiyosaki said on his youtube channel (The Rich Dad Channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srIgXeFG7nc))

"this is real financial education, what they don't teach you in school...so there's three kinds of people in the world when it comes to money, there's an investor, a trader, and a speculator"


- INVESTOR = an investor puts capital to use for long-term profit.
- TRADER = a trader seeks to make short-term profits by buying and selling over and over again.
- SPECULATOR = a speculator just gambles and hopes that other parties will dare to pay higher his/her tokens or coins later.

i'm an investor, not very trading savvy, just buy Bitcoin and some Altcoins for long-term.  How about you friend?
I’m an investor for now, and it is really good to be an investor, that’s like the easiest thing anyone can be here. But I have plans to become a trader and I am working towards that. I keep learning every day to understand how the market really works, and I have a few friends that are traders as well.

Investment is really good and one of the good things about it is that it is the easiest anyone can do now, and there is more opportunity for you to make profit if you’re able to invest the right time and hold for a long time, the market will surely go up and you’re going to make profit. Then the good thing about trading is that when you’re really good at it there is an opportunity for you to be making steady profit from the market.
When we dont like to get our hands wet then we do just simply buy and hold it for long term but there are people who doesnt really like to wait that long and this is why
'they do really tend to trade and would really like to see profits in shorter time frame which i do fully agree on this one because i do have this kind of mindset and perception too.

Honestly, it doesnt really need for you to choose one because you could actually do all things if you do wanted to but of course it would be needing more capital
and would be needed proper risk management.

We do share the same common goal which is to make profits although it would be on different takings or ways.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: lixer on August 05, 2021, 08:45:49 PM
Before starting I advise you to read some books, in my case I have learned a lot about Wyckoff's theory, from Jesse Livermore, the fact that you get into short-term trading is very necessary that you become an expert in technical analysis , but nevertheless before getting there it is good that you can learn to understand how the market moves, if you combine the fundamental analysis with the technical one I think your chances of success will increase, now if you can trade with play money first before making your operations It would also be very prudent.
Yes, trading without being an expert or at least knowing what you are doing is really a waste of time. When you don’t know what you’re doing you’re going to be losing money, so what’s the need for being a trader when you’re not earning from it? It’s good that we understand the risks that are involved in it, and once we understand that risk, and know how we can handle it, then we are ready to go for it.

And being a trader is not just about learning how to trade, even when you have the skills, you still have to apply different other strategies to make your trading successful, because there are times when your predictions might end up wrong, no matter how good you might seem to be in trading short term or long term.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Arvin01 on August 06, 2021, 07:49:23 AM
I am an investor, and I regularly invest a little money in cryptocurrency every month,
But I will also be a trader, because I want to get more money, so I analyze the market in my free time, because I have more spare time, so I will invest in many projects.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Melody kdl on August 06, 2021, 08:32:57 AM
These three types can be owned at the same time, depending on our understanding of the market situation. I am an investor and trader myself. While holding it for a long time, I also repeatedly bought altcoins, looking for opportunities to enter the market. In the market, I know some new currencies that I think are good, and I will choose to buy some, because the trend of the new currencies will not be too bad.


Title: Re: What kind type of market player you are?
Post by: Irenerty on August 12, 2021, 02:03:01 AM
I will also invest part of the funds in promising projects by analyzing various indicators of the crypto market, and then no matter how the price changes, I will choose to continue holding at the right time and obtain long-term profits. Although this requires a lot of time and money, it will get benefits in the end.
When the market pullback is really active and the price is rising through market analysis, I will choose short-term trading. Through short-term small transactions, thereby reducing risks and obtaining greater profits.