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Title: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: Jet Cash on July 31, 2021, 06:52:43 PM
I must apologise for not being ill, and not even having a sniffle or a mild headache. I've also just enjoyed the taste of a perfect avocado, and a nice piece of steamed salmon.

I feel really guilty, as I am 79, and I haven't been vaccinated for well over 60 years. I don't wear a mask, except when I am using an angle grinder to remove rust. I don't use sanitisers, but I do observe all the traditional methods of personal hygiene. I don't social distance, and I visit several supermarkets and public venues every day. I sometimes go to a naturist beach, and I don't even wear a condom. I meet a lot of unmasked truck drivers and other people during the day (not on the beach :) ).

I haven't met anyone that has had anything other than minor inconveniences as a result of a covid infection. The number of people that I have met who have had significant problems as a result of the vaccine is well into double figures, and several have had to take a week off work.


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: WNTRjon on July 31, 2021, 07:02:36 PM
Why do you think you need to apologize to the people who believe science is real? I have not met or heard of anyone I personally know catching COVID-19. I have not received a vaccination in over 20 years. But the science is clear, vaccinations save lives. There is no argument against this. Vaccinations are literally one of the greatest things to happen to mankind in history.


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: Oshosondy on July 31, 2021, 07:09:47 PM
I feel really guilty, as I am 79, and I haven't been vaccinated for well over 60 years.
But I believe you have taken vaccine before? Most certainly when you were a baby. There has been many people that still take vaccine and live old. Life is all about chances, but healthy living is very important like you said.


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: Jet Cash on July 31, 2021, 07:38:31 PM
I believe that I had the smallpox vaccine, but I don't think I had any others. I caught mumps, measles, chicken pox and the other kids' infections that we all tried to catch to build immunity. That's much better than messing up your immune system with vaccines. But in those days, we ate real food that hadn't been poisoned with glyphosates, and butter rather than seed oil spreads. Cows ruminated on grass, and we played sports to win.


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: Kontibruno on July 31, 2021, 10:14:38 PM
I do not really get your drift, but the fact is that COVID-19 is real and vaccination is helping a lot of people. However, there are people that seem to have natural immunity against this virus. It is not unheard of to see people mingle with people that have an infectious disease and not get infected.

If you are lucky enough to avoid getting infected with diseases, even HIV, you should not rub it on the face of those that may not have an immune system that is as "strong" as yours.


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: franky1 on July 31, 2021, 10:28:42 PM
at 79 means he was born in 1942
so he didnt have childhood vaccines.. not out of choice. but out of being born in such an early era

he didnt have measles vaccine because he was born before it was invented(1963)
he didnt have chicken pox vaccine because he was born before it was invented(1995)

yet it did have some vaccines before he turned 20. (1962)
so i guess when he was old enough to walk and talk and make decisions.. he chose to have vaccines

so is he apologising for admitting he is not an antivaxxer because when they did become available he had them.. (as a late teen)

many people dont have or need vaccines 20-65. and having the flu jab at 65+ is not compulsory.
so its not a badge of honour to say he didnt have any vaccines after his 20th birthday.. its pretty much normal

..
and no you dont need to wear a condom when your giving yourself a one hander while peaking at the nudes outside your camper van.. you need some tissue and yes some hand sanitiser..

"rubbing-alcohol available at a nudest camp"... is not an invitation to perv

sorry but no one should be shaking your hand after you had a sneaky peak at the nudist beach. especially if you say when you do have sex(i presume with your partner) that its been decades before she had anyone else.. but with that said... i hope she knows about your sneaky spank sessions perving at the nudest beach.. she atleast needs to know about your hand hygiene before cooking her salmon. or she will have diarrhoea like you did last year.. and your partners friend did this year.

oh and yes apologise to your gut for leaving the salmon out in the open overnight which you described last year


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: Poker Player on August 01, 2021, 05:47:19 AM
I must apologise for not being ill, and not even having a sniffle or a mild headache. I've also just enjoyed the taste of a perfect avocado, and a nice piece of steamed salmon.

I feel really guilty, as I am 79, and I haven't been vaccinated for well over 60 years. I don't wear a mask, except when I am using an angle grinder to remove rust. I don't use sanitisers, but I do observe all the traditional methods of personal hygiene. I don't social distance, and I visit several supermarkets and public venues every day. I sometimes go to a naturist beach, and I don't even wear a condom. I meet a lot of unmasked truck drivers and other people during the day (not on the beach :) ).

I haven't met anyone that has had anything other than minor inconveniences as a result of a covid infection. The number of people that I have met who have had significant problems as a result of the vaccine is well into double figures, and several have had to take a week off work.

Yes of course, and your experience should be elevated to science, lol.

I'm not sick either and I had a lot of vaccinations as a kid. I got both pfizer ones and had no side effects. Nothing. I wear a mask where required and wash my hands frequently or use sanitizers depending on the situation.

Most people I know who have had the COVID vaccine have had mild to no simptoms. Some with astrazeneca had stronger flu like symptoms but I don't know anyone who had them last more than two days. However, I do know people who died from COVID, but very old or very fat people.

There is a thing called science that goes far beyond personal experiences.


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: Oshosondy on August 01, 2021, 08:04:13 AM
I believe that I had the smallpox vaccine, but I don't think I had any others. I caught mumps, measles, chicken pox and the other kids' infections that we all tried to catch to build immunity. That's much better than messing up your immune system with vaccines. But in those days, we ate real food that hadn't been poisoned with glyphosates, and butter rather than seed oil spreads. Cows ruminated on grass, and we played sports to win.
I too like to speak of natural immunity, but studying about it is that vaccines makes immunity to act against virus by using the extract from a similar virus that can induce an immune response against the virus. I too I am afraid that the world may not be going natural, but if we think otherwise, we will notice the world will not be any better if their is no vaccine, mortality rate will increase. Your opinion about the world works for you perfectly, but it might not work for others like if they are not vaccinated.


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: franky1 on August 01, 2021, 08:18:39 AM
anti vax people are not the caring type of wanting whats best for other people.
they are the selfish type of thinking they are the immortal gods and everyone else are just avatars in the matrix..
its the mindset of darwinism. fight to the death the survivor wins the losers deserved to die

they dont care about other peoples health or reactions to actions of the antivaxxer. all the antivaxxer cares about is the pretense that they are immortal and no one else matters

yes they want everyone else to catch a virus. so then the virus just dissipates out of society so that they can avoid getting the virus once they venture out of the basement(herd immunity. get everyone else done first)

they dont care that million died generations ago from spanish flu. they just care their grand dad survived.

their natural approach is get everyone infected by something that can kill. and those that die.. deserved to die


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: Cnut237 on August 01, 2021, 08:30:23 AM
I must apologise for not being ill, and not even having a sniffle or a mild headache.

You obviously live a healthy lifestyle, and are to be commended for that. It's indisputable that this does confer health benefits. It is likely it would also improve your outcome, should you catch Covid. I'll agree to all that.

But it doesn't make you immune or super-human. If everyone lived as healthily as you, we probably wouldn't have had 4 million deaths... but we would still have had a huge number. And your ancedotal evidence of a few individuals in a global pandemic is also irrelevant. My own anecdotal evidence contradicts yours. I know plenty of people who've had the vaccine, all of whom have experienced minor or no side effects. I also know several young, healthy people who've died from Covid... as well as a nursing home just up the road where everybody died.

Living as healthily as you can is a great idea. So are vaccines. These are not either/or options.

In nations where overall vaccination rates are high, data are starting to appear on the difference between relatively high and relatively low vaccination areas. The US is an example. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/map-covid-cases-are-rising-states-low-vaccination-rates-n1275322) The patterns in the image below are startlingly clear.

https://i.imgur.com/nEmN4nK.png


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: sapnu on August 01, 2021, 10:19:36 PM
I must apologise for not being ill, and not even having a sniffle or a mild headache. I've also just enjoyed the taste of a perfect avocado, and a nice piece of steamed salmon.

I feel really guilty, as I am 79, and I haven't been vaccinated for well over 60 years. I don't wear a mask, except when I am using an angle grinder to remove rust. I don't use sanitisers, but I do observe all the traditional methods of personal hygiene. I don't social distance, and I visit several supermarkets and public venues every day. I sometimes go to a naturist beach, and I don't even wear a condom. I meet a lot of unmasked truck drivers and other people during the day (not on the beach :) ).

I haven't met anyone that has had anything other than minor inconveniences as a result of a covid infection. The number of people that I have met who have had significant problems as a result of the vaccine is well into double figures, and several have had to take a week off work.
We owe no apologies for those people who let their fear take over the logic about the virus. We all know how much the government has made the virus look very evident all over the world so that they can scare people into taking the vaccine. Just take a look back at the history and see how long it took for some vaccine to be made as well as how hard it was that some illnesses has no vaccine up until now. It will show off, how detrimental the vaccine really on the next few years and I hope we get to live a longer life with the decisions we made.


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: ARTURVH on August 02, 2021, 02:19:37 AM
Forgive me, I always feel that vaccines have made great contributions to human health 。 Smallpox cholera once caused a huge disaster to the entire human race. Many lives saved by the smallpox vaccine.
I believe in biotechnology, and I believe that vaccines bring well-being to human health. For most people, vaccinations are responsible for their own lives, under the current epidemic situation. There may be a small number of people with adverse reactions, but this is not the reason why we deny the vaccine.


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: Renampun on August 02, 2021, 01:33:20 PM
...

My grandfather is also your age and he said he never got a vaccine shot because at that time our country was still in chaos...

but vaccination is more about prevention, people's immune systems are currently very bad, even those who have received vaccine injections are also affected by the disease. I was vaccinated and thankful for that lol


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: Tash on August 02, 2021, 03:34:06 PM
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My grandfather is also your age and he said he never got a vaccine shot because at that time our country was still in chaos...

but vaccination is more about prevention, people's immune systems are currently very bad, even those who have received vaccine injections are also affected by the disease. I was vaccinated and thankful for that lol
Vaccinated for what? For something which does not exist or can you provide scientific evidence for its isolation?


Apperantly German's largest tabloid more than a million daily copies, issues apology on Covid deception
https://www.brighteon.com/a1e21534-3c8f-4a2a-b345-0646ec351ee4


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: cmg777 on August 03, 2021, 01:08:34 AM
I must apologise for not being ill, and not even having a sniffle or a mild headache. I've also just enjoyed the taste of a perfect avocado, and a nice piece of steamed salmon.

I feel really guilty, as I am 79, and I haven't been vaccinated for well over 60 years. I don't wear a mask, except when I am using an angle grinder to remove rust. I don't use sanitisers, but I do observe all the traditional methods of personal hygiene. I don't social distance, and I visit several supermarkets and public venues every day. I sometimes go to a naturist beach, and I don't even wear a condom. I meet a lot of unmasked truck drivers and other people during the day (not on the beach :) ).

I haven't met anyone that has had anything other than minor inconveniences as a result of a covid infection. The number of people that I have met who have had significant problems as a result of the vaccine is well into double figures, and several have had to take a week off work.

You're probably more healthy than most people who will be at your age in the next 10 years due to the side effects of big pharma and GMOs. Hell you lived in a world that had none and used herbal all natural remedies to fix their ill. If anything it it the modern world that should be sorry to you sir/maam. It has failed us and the people that died in WWII. They died for nothing because we are just repeating history once more.


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: Xinarae* on August 03, 2021, 04:52:14 AM
As a person gets older his immune system decreases after they become a little sick and the vaccine does not play any effective role. There is nothing to commit a crime here the virus is completely natural and wears this mask even though we wear masks that is why you have to be careful the whole country is desperate to pull the corona rush. There is no medicine needed to treat corona, not enough oxygen there is no vaccine in the hospital those who are still infected have better than everyone else.


Title: Re: An apology to all the vaxxers here.
Post by: semobo on August 03, 2021, 05:23:07 PM
The reason why you didn't see anyone who is severely ill due to covid infection is simply that they were admitted to hospitals. ;D

In personal life, I do wear mask occasionally not to avoid covid virus but to avoid any penalty from the government side! ::)