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I am looking to purchase items like collectibles of Bitcoin without revealing my address. I could get a escrow to middle man the deal but I am still giving away my personal information to someone that I do not know. Is there any services out there that allow auto forwarding of mail or drop off points which you can access without giving away personal information?

Well it looks really interesting topic for me. I still didn't think about it. I also want to know about it. Though we all know bitcoin can be anonymous payment method for the world. But if we go to store to buy any physical products then its no more Anonyme. And if we buy products from normal online shopping site then we should givd our address and phone number too. Just think we give an address but not my house a little distance from my house. But how could i recieve products because i have to give my number where the delivery man called me.

So how is it possible i also want to know?

This forum has a marketplace, you can check it out, remember that you have to be wary of scammers though because it's unregulated here which is the part that I don't get. I don't know much anonymity anymore OP, we all have our infos recorded in the government registry, it's only our secrets that are safe anymore.

I know this forum has a marketplace I am not asking that I am asking how can I receive collectibles from the forum without revealing my address. I was hoping that there might be Bitcoin accepting mail forwarders.

I dont know where you are based Macadonian but what about a Post Office Box,
a box number which doesnt reveal your identity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_office_box

You could also try sending yourself a letter without your name or maybe your first name,
just your address and see if it gets to you and then you know you can use it in future.

in a few years back when i feel to buy a hardware wallet btw i need to hide my personal information because here only 1 option payment method btc,eth accepted and other fact crypto is illegal in my country.

i bought it through a 3rd party who received this item and i got product easily i don't need to disclose my identity.  

I think this is what's going to happen. But you still have to reveal your address through the sender so that the post office will give you a short notice if your package has already been received.

I don't know how it goes for other countries and how their system goes but if there's no other choice then you can ask to the nearest post office and how their process is. If you don't want to, you really have to add an address for your purchase but it could be someone's address.

You're putting yourselves at risk mate, don't ever share information for someone you do not know personally. There could be possibility of an personal data breach that might happen on you, and we don't want it to happen.
Much better if you do buying bitcoin on your own, just use a legit and popular exchange, have a basic account then you can purchase btc anonymously even though your address will be revealed.
It's not a big deal, as long as you kept your identity safely to someone else a stranger from you.

It depends upon the service that you are looking for, much better is always read the terms and conditions or maybe the FAQ.  They possibly secretly hide your basic information, like the nickname and valid email address, and sending it to any location that you want, of course, this isn't your real address, it's an alternative during the purchase.

Have you tried to use this site?  https://shipanon.com/
Please read the FAQ first to prevent self confusion regarding anonymity, they accept Bitcoin also, and please do your own research first before using them.

In some countries you can set up for receive a postage just a number in a specific post office. So no one will ever known your real address.
https://www.poste.it/prodotti/caselle-postali.html (Italian postage, just to have an idea about).

Well, normally no one will notify you about an item received here since this type of service has been created for "homeless" or people without a stable house.

Not a lot of establishments and online sites offer payment thru bitcoin, so what I usually do is to convert some of my bitcoins that are meant for online purchases, leaving my bitcoins that are meant for investment untouched, and shoulder the long wait time and the expensive processing fee. It is not always the best option and the best process but at least I help with the economy of bitcoin by ensuring that not all of them are held and some of them are still in circulation. For transactions like money transfer and such, I use a middleman online to accept and send the payments for me so my real address is kept hidden and is out of record. Well you could have your package be sent into your local post office instead, that's what I do most of the time. Sure you may have to drive or walk just to get there and it may not be the best experience really but I usually just think of it as my exercise, because in my cause my local post office is quite near. Then again what works for me may not work for you so you're always free to explore your options.

Wonder how I have never come across such reasonable question. In my opinion, this is not really possible. Even if you get a third party, it can still be easily tracked. Remember that the blockchain hides nothing. The seller/store could trace it back to your wallet. And I can be a very private person too. Imagine having $Millions in your wallet and then someone uncovers that the address belongs to you because they traced it after you bought some items. This is obviously a challenge.

It depends on your place of residence, I guess, but generally, it is possible. In my country (and other countries in Europe, I assume) there are delivery services that allow you to order a delivery to a place not connected to your address. It’s basically can be something like a parcel cabinet somewhere in the street with a particular number and in order to get your order, you only need to know an exact delivery id number and tell the other party which delivery point is desirable for you.

there is nothing wrong with collectibles, it's not illegal. hard for the seller to learn where to send it to you when you are not willing to provide your address but if you are willing to reveal your name i guess PO box will do. if i have to do it, i might just send the product to a friend's house bundled with a gift for this friend. but might have to ask permission for it.

Here in forum it's safe to buy item using bitcoin through collectibles board but outside bitcointalk its very dangerous when it comes making transaction especially with bitcoin coz mostly experience scamming, that's the disadvantages coz you can't provide a third party to make your transaction safe.. Not the same here in forum that there's always a escrow services that can help you to have a smooth transaction if you want to hide your identity.

I have a very simple solution to your problem. Visit any post office in your country and apply for a PO Box number. Once this PO box number is created, you can use it to receive any legal goods delivery. This way only post office will know your actual address but neither the escrow provider or the seller will ever know your actual address. It's that simple!

Hooe this helps! But please take into account that PO box is similar to bank locker. You need to pay monthly charge to maintain it.

@avikz, will the post office still ask for the receiver's real name from the sender or is a PO box number enough for that?

OP is trying to buy a bitcoin collectible which is a physical item and not the digital BTC.

Exactly.

One thing I'd add is that if OP also doesn't want to link various buys to each other and to the wallet with all his coins, he may also want to use coins from different addresses in his wallet, ideally from not linked inputs.
If the seller is OK with that, mixed coins are the easiest route, obviously.

Does this office boxes really help to stay anonymous? You still need to fill some basic information about yourself when renting a box. Even if you fill form with fake data and pay in cash, there are still cameras all around in post institutions. It will just take some time to identify a person from a video with a real person.

Anyway, this is actually a good question Macadonian asked. How to hide real delivery address, when you anonymously purchase something? How to do it without causing other people troubles?

I wonder what items like collectibles you want to buy without revealing your address. If that item is legal, you can still buy it with bitcoin so they do not know who the buyer is but you should give them an address so they know where they should send the items. If that item is illegal and you still want to buy it, I am not sure you will have a chance to avoid the customs office because it comes from other countries. They will make sure that the items are not illegal things or something that can cause damage, even if you use PO BOX as the address. Maybe you can describe what the items are so we can give more suggestions.

I think the question regarding cameras is only in relation to how paranoid you are.

The op is talking about buying some collectable items from sellers, the requirement
for privacy is not to have to give a name and address.

Satoshi, Cobra and Theymos for example are on a completely different level of
anonymity, they require a higher or top level of anonymity for various and obvious reasons.

As suggested by others, you could use a PO box. You would still provide an address but it is not your complete home address. It will just be your box number, city or town, its area code, and country.

You could also use a mail forwarder. To receive your package, you will provide the address of the forwarder instead of yours. But you will be giving your address to the forwarder as they are the ones who will send the goods to you.

Or if you want to have it made simple, you could actually ask a friend or an officemate or a distant relative to receive the goods in your behalf. You could also ask the goods to be delivered to a business address owned by a friend or a relative.

Once you convert a digital asset to a physical asset, the anonymity is lost. No matter what you do, you can never be 100% anonymous in such occasions. There are certain methods, such as ordering to a friends address, or through those who offer such services. But in none of the cases, it is 100% safe and actually this may lead you in to even bigger trouble. If you don't want to be seen purchasing collectibles using Bitcoin, then you can always convert your Bitcoins to digital gift cards (in an anonymous way) and then use these gift cards to purchase physical assets.

I am also thinking about this on the past is there a way for us to stay anonymous with crypto purchase or even cash outs?
Just like OP I was looking for a way to convert my crypto into Fiat or at least buy something with it but stay anonymous,
But it seems that there isn't anyway for it unless you would hire someone to do it instead of your own.

It depends on the agreement for shipping problems. but when it comes to payment of addresses, there is a coin mixing service for that but if you using middle man services no way you using mixing service. it seems that now it is rare to be completely anonymous. Surely one of the parties will know. if it's just a matter of home address, there is a PO BOX system in delivery.

To stay anonymous is possible, but what you expect is beyond anonymity. Because, you're into the purchase of bitcoin collectibles. To reach you it is a must to provide address. You can stay anonymous using any of the cryptocurrency, because there are marketplace in our forum and outside space who accept bitcoin without any kyc. To deliver your product without any address details is not an easy thing. Only possible way is to meet up at some location and receive the collectibles.

Note : While receiving the product use face mask and other things that covers your identity. :D :D :D

LOL ;DYou are so careful and remind OP to pretend. At present, it is difficult to anonymize as long as it is connected with reality. Anonymity refers to the payment method, intangible value can be transmitted, and tangible items cannot be realized.

damnn this new in never really think about it  ;D ;D ;D there's bitcoin mixing but there's no address mixing  ;D ;D most of youtuber using PO box but it would be great if there is platfrom one time use put the address to someone warehouse and send to you and the address never been save it

Not possible. You will have to reveal your address and personal information to someone.

Buying things locally in person with cash is the only real way to stay "anonymous." That person, of course, will see you.

The only way to buy something anonymously online directly with crypto would be to A. use Monero B. ship to a random location C. intercept the package.

A gift card can generally be assumed to be anonymous. However, if it's the government selling you the gift card, they could track the number and potentially obtain your id from the vendor (i.e. Amazon).

Take crypto: https://planetexpress.com/faq/#13
However, all major mail forwarders exclude most items you would want anonymity for. They exclude "monetary items (coins, precious stones, cash, precious metal, etc.)"

Several decentralized exchanges that let you do this. Why people use centralized exchanges amazes me. Protect your privacy. See this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351003.0

Bitcoin is generally considered to be an anonymous payment network.

But in fact, Bitcoin may be the most transparent payment network in the world. At the same time, if used properly, Bitcoin can provide acceptable privacy.

Always remember that it is your own responsibility to develop good habits to protect your privacy.

The biggest feature of Bitcoin is not anonymity but the fastest transfer speed to form the transfer of equal wealth and eliminate all kinds of ideologies in the world.

Therefore, it is currently impossible to make completely anonymous shopping.

I think it's a good business idea if you ask me but the only problem is that it can be used to transport illicit goods that might cause some conflict with the postal authority in your country. Plus what's the worry of doing a PO box if you don't want to reveal your name when sent a mail? I think it's much better if you think about it.

If you trade anything then you are required to share your address to get the item at least with a PO box that some have suggested you are doing it with a company that does not care about your details and have thousands of our customers.

In this case, the legality of Bitcoin is very necessary from a country, because in my country... I still can't buy physical goods anonymously, but if I buy something goods with Bitcoin to someone.. maybe I can still do it. Basically, it's worth using, and can still be done anonymously, but maybe due to price fluctuations, sometimes it's still considered.

Anonymous towards who exactly? By collecting the package at the post office instead of receiving it at home address you protect your privacy towards the seller, but there is no way to cover your identity from the post office system.

I understand why someone would want to hide himself from the seller, especially when dealing with unknown people on the internet without any backgrounds, but I see no reason to avoid being identified by the post office agents, unless the buyer is doing something wrong.

It's not practically possible to receive collectibles without revealing the address. As there are some reservations and interest of the sale for which it's mandatory. These are just to make both the ends secured so the interest of both the buyer and sellers can be ensured. Also, check the FAQs for the sale for which you are about to acquire the service.

crazy for me.

It’s very interesting topic. I have couple devs they tipped me for art but there wasn’t any way to deliver art to them. The only possibility was if I knew already somehow from his family or I was the family. But if you order from me art I will immediately forget all the information. :)

Well there is kinda a place where the NFT come in play I saw some place where you can buy the nft and with it the art, but still you need to give the adress for delivary. Interesting topic for sure.

 
 There's also https://ship7.com/
 I been used them without have to provide KYC verification!

 
 I think for shipito too,
 You'll need to provide certified authorization in case of forwarding letters, that's don't apply for forwarding items !

What kind of items do you want to buy? You can use your postal code and anonymous name at the time of buying. I hope it will arrive at your nearest post office. On the other hand, you can convert your btc to other currency and can use for buying purpose. Then it is not necessary to hide identity because bitcoin might illegal but other currency are not.

I think it's difficult. and I also want to know about this. because until now every transaction we have to include evidence or anything related to ourselves. like our information. so we can't be completely anonymous. it would be better if we could freely transact in a safe way for both the seller and the buyer but with full anonymity. but I don't think there is such a thing or difficult. Or maybe I just don't know.

i will start to find out if there is such a way. secure but anonymous.

If I'm not mistaken, the account is not tied to user data. So it should be quite safe.