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Title: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Bitcoin9920 on August 11, 2021, 03:38:05 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: crwth on August 11, 2021, 03:42:36 PM
That's always going to be a problem with us, humans, who have emotional sides and overthinking factors that ride over our heads. You can never be successful if you are too vigorous with it and deciding on those feelings. When people do that, that's because of the gambling nature that we have and not the rational one. We need to be consistent to be successful and follow risk management instead of just going all in.

Don't be envious of what other people have because they might have a different starting point than you. Just be patient, and everything will fall into place in the long run. Plus, use a tool like Gunbot (https://gunbot.ph) to assist your trading.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: pawanjain on August 11, 2021, 03:56:24 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

That's correct. Trading based on emotions is bound to give you losses unless you are too lucky.
I have personally traded based on emotions many times and I have failed miserably and lost my money.
This is what I understood from that trading requires patience and skills to analyze the market and place your orders correctly.
If we don't have a planned strategy then we are about to lose money every time we trade.
With a proper strategy, we can not only gain profits but also minimize the loses in the losing trade.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Bitcoin9920 on August 11, 2021, 03:57:41 PM
That's always going to be a problem with us, humans, who have emotional sides and overthinking factors that ride over our heads. You can never be successful if you are too vigorous with it and deciding on those feelings. When people do that, that's because of the gambling nature that we have and not the rational one. We need to be consistent to be successful and follow risk management instead of just going all in.

Don't be envious of what other people have because they might have a different starting point than you. Just be patient, and everything will fall into place in the long run. Plus, use a tool like Gunbot (https://gunbot.ph) to assist your trading.
I will definitely try the tool that you have told


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: mk4 on August 11, 2021, 04:18:55 PM
1. While it seems the same, trading is really different with investing
2. Buying alts when the markets in general isn't necessarily a bad thing when talking about trading, because buying at rising prices with high volumes is a thing that could be taken advantage of.
3. You could've ended just with saying "don't make impulsive decisions based on your emotions" or something


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Sterbens on August 11, 2021, 04:36:02 PM
Emotions have become external which must be inherent in a person, but that does not mean that emotions can be seen to control the mind, we are given the gift of balancing when emotions overflow, so it is a bad thing to follow the instructions the emotion wants.
The nature of the market becomes like a ticking time bomb, you control it to explode or you control it to tame the market price.

There's no such thing as healthy trading these days, but creating a feeling of well-being is your mentality in controlling the situation. Whether the market is in a bad state or is profitable, we are on a long line of thinking. Think before selling and also know the trade before buying.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: roosbit on August 11, 2021, 04:46:43 PM
Let's face it, there is a thin line to separate gambling from trading and it is from this which makes us scared and emotional when trading,  we think of what happens when I lose my trade, will this how its going to be all the time? Confidence in trading comes from winning and if you not seeing those wins what follows is emotional trading.
Since we know the best remedy to overcome our emotions let's try to find more winners to build confidence in trading.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: teosanru on August 11, 2021, 05:43:36 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
I think trading without a strategy, plan, and system is just useless. You should have all three ingredients to make money in markets. A strategy would tell you the overall aim of your trading. What is the intent behind your trading and when are you going to add or withdraw money from this account. second is the trading plan which involves around the time of trading you'll do each day and what is your daily risk %age and daily reward expectation and make sure you don't go beyond both of them. Third is the trading system, system basically means the set of indicators or triggers which you will use to decide whether to enter a trade, trading should be absolutely mechanical, if your system says you buy a coin, you just buy it, if your system says sell a coin, you just sell it.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: DarkDays on August 11, 2021, 06:27:14 PM
Unless you're a professional trader with years and years of experience it is almost impossible to decouple your trading decisions from your guts/emotions.

As unfortunate as it is, this is reality and only by practicing good strategies and executing the previously carefully set plans one can start to learn not to get their emotions involved.

Don't fault yourself for not being able to leave emotions out of trading strategies just yet, it is hard and it takes time but for the sake of becoming a good trader keep on practicing and keep improving because it is a long journey but a worthy one ;)


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on August 11, 2021, 06:54:42 PM
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It's possible to gain, but remember that there are many shitcoins out there still, OP. Don't "put a tiny percentage". Just invest what is something that you are not worried losing. In this unstable market, you can still lose everything in your portfolio.
Oh and yeah, the emotions. It is part of us and how we function as a normal human being and we're not robots to not have emotion.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: palle11 on August 11, 2021, 07:02:38 PM

When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

I see this you writing as money management because when you invest gradually based on the amount of your balance and what it can go for then a little shake in market volatility wouldn't affect the trader to be scared and exit. You are right but the big challenge in trading is still the emotional factor that you wrote. The emotions is hardly taken out of trading, even after you think you have control of it but you see you still have that around and it makes for greed no matter how little it is.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on August 11, 2021, 07:17:40 PM
Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
So true. You know how some users would feel they did it once or twice and it played out to there favour and to that note, they feel its a good thing? That ain't the same about trading. You should never put your emotions or your feelings I your trading, its wrong and could wrech iour account.
Trading has got a lot of professionalism about it looking at the fact that, Traders like to be and the trading field on its own is a highly experienced field. There isn't any room for taking chances.

Trading with emotions is basically trading based on luck. A trading without any serious analysis. Its a wrong way to trade and should be discouraged.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: bL4nkcode on August 11, 2021, 07:33:28 PM
Beginners and inexperience traders have been always like this, emotions always matter even you knew you shouldn't, not unless you are already have lots of experience.

In terms of doubt for the temporary trend of the market then let your guts decide, don't just sell if you think you're in loss, and don't hesitate to sell if you already profit, and don't hesitate to buy if the market is in loss.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Shenzou on August 11, 2021, 08:44:33 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
The emotional trading and just following the masses doesn't always lead to good trades and profits, if you are trying to trade or invest in a certain asset you should do it based on personal belief and personal satisfaction, meaning if you look at a currency that is offering some new ideas and it is solving some problems that you think that will get popular than you should invest in it, and if you are investing in a currency just for the sake that everyone is buying it you will struggle with making decisions to sell or buy because you have no link to it.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: stomachgrowls on August 11, 2021, 08:58:20 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
When you do tend to jump into trading career,doesnt matter if its forex,stocks or crypto then you would really need to control the following;

•Emotion
•Impulsive decision
•Lack of knowledge
•Careless action
•Believing into other words

When you do make yourself get affected then it would really might result into such scearion.So better trade with your own
even though it might not really that be perfected but at least you are doing the right thing.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Johnyz on August 11, 2021, 08:59:00 PM
Emotions is part of being human and being a trader, we tend to feel positive if the market is getting better and of course the opposite emotion if the market is dumping, which i believe is very normal. We just have to learn on how to control this one and use the right emotion on every situation. In trading, this is a learning process so don’t rush yourself to be emotionless just keep going and do your trades according to your plan and strategies, emotion can be your best weapon so use it the right way.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: goaldigger on August 11, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Having your emotions that controls you is normal for beginners, they tend to be more fragile but as the time goes by and as they continue to learn things about trading, that emotion can be good for them especially if they are more active on achieving their goals. We can’t escape any emotion because of a human nature, but we can save ourselves from panicking if we analyze the market first before you decide. Its better to be more organize, focus on your strategy and always do your best to trade without any emotion.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Ryker1 on August 11, 2021, 10:15:05 PM
Well that is right --and fear belongs to the emotion that most commonly will perhaps felt by people who experienced this.
That is why we always saw advice as always here in the forum regarding that matter, just control your emotion in trading because it will have a bad result. When the entire market goes down and the bitcoin price will down, there is what we called a loss but you can avoid this if you know how to hold, if you have bought 1 bitcoin and it will be the same amount if you will never sell this.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: kawetsriyanto on August 11, 2021, 11:05:36 PM
When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.
This is what losers did. Panicking selling when there is a correction.
Many people feel afraid to buy when the market is in correction (decline phase), but they always ask to buy at cheap prices. Even worse, when it is in an uptrend (rising phase), they will say it is not the right time to buy because the prices are too expensive. For the people just buy without any analysis, it is what will happen to them. I hope we are not a part of them.  :D



Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: AliMan on August 11, 2021, 11:11:10 PM
There's always a problem when it comes to trading, specially for those new comers who took a wrong entry. Mostly, they bought their coins at the highest price so they're likely to be failing in the future. Without further knowledge about what they're doing particularly when ot come to price saturation, emotions is their enemy on that particular stage. Fears, anxieties and depression was a huge problems that we're going to battle.
Being a human, we had that instincts which actually difficult to handle. So easy to say have control, but we need guidance from experienced traders and I won't recommend some softwares because they're also made by experts that a beginner won't relate some basic points.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Oceat on August 11, 2021, 11:22:29 PM
anyone who trades when they have excess emotions they will not be able to succeed from trading. because it usually doesn't use good analysis. they only think short term. so in my opinion this should be avoided and emotions should be controlled
It's all about the analysis so if someone is using their brain they should always set aside their emotions and let the analysis do the trick for them. That's how you minimize the risk of losing by controlling your emotion because emotion can only cause losses it blurry your thoughts when in fact you can gain the profit if you just set aside your emotion.

This is always applicable to trading and gambling. Anyone who knew this has suffered losses already because they learned from their mistakes and taking the mistakes of the others to learn is not enough once you felt the same way as they did.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: n0ne on August 11, 2021, 11:39:33 PM
From my personal experience into trading I never tend to invest when the market has turned bullish, because my trading capital is very small. For users with big trading capital can buy when the market has turned bullish, because there'll be little growth with time and the same can get good profits within a short. Myself used to buy at the low price and wait for the right time to sell and once again wait for the moment to buy it back on price drop.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: milewilda on August 11, 2021, 11:50:28 PM
When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.
This is what losers did. Panicking selling when there is a correction.
Many people feel afraid to buy when the market is in correction (decline phase), but they always ask to buy at cheap prices. Even worse, when it is in an uptrend (rising phase), they will say it is not the right time to buy because the prices are too expensive. For the people just buy without any analysis, it is what will happen to them. I hope we are not a part of them.  :D


Panic sell is a very common situation or event that do happen into this market due to emotion which its normal to be felt since we are just human beings and those reactions would really be common
but when you do already gain up some experience then this is where actions will really vary and its comparable to those who are total noob to those who are experienced ones.
You shouldnt really tolerate your emotions because this would really result into mistakes into your actions or your trading or investment.
Dont tie up your emotions into this very unpredictable market because that would really be molding those bad decisions or mistakes.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Rengga Jati on August 11, 2021, 11:53:13 PM
- Trade and invest in what you really know and understand
- Trade and invest money that you can afford to loose
- Never follow hype and FOMO in which you don;t know the projects exactly
- Don't play with your emotion (very happy, sad, panic, and others. Be wise and smart on everythig.)


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Mpamaegbu on August 12, 2021, 07:36:53 AM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market.
With just three posts from an account you opened on the 11th of August, you're already providing advice and guidance to the forum on trading? This is really hilarious. You could've posted from your main as you don't sound like a newbie to me, actually. Well, that said. I would like to make a clarification here, trading is a speculative profession. Speculations are based on sentiments of course, which can either be objective or subjective. Both are emotionally based, anyway. And that's the singular reason anyone trading is advised to develop a trading plan which they should stick to so they don't get swayed by untapped emotional decisions of other traders. Learn the ropes and stick to the emotion that you understand and can relate with. Whether buy or sell, traders will either lose cash or make it.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Lakai01 on August 12, 2021, 07:43:05 AM
With just three posts from an account you opened on the 11th of August, you're already providing advice and guidance to the forum on trading? This is really hilarious. You could've posted from your main as you don't sound like a newbie to me, actually.
I honestly wouldn't put a value on his/her forum rank. Conversely, this would mean that anything a Legendary says is more trustworthy than an opinion of a Sr. member, for example. All of us started as a newbie once, no matter how much experience we had before around Bitcoin and co. For example, I have been invested in BTC since 2012, but I only opened the account here in 2018.

So you should rather evaluate the content and not the account itself, and there are quite interesting statements.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Cherylstar86 on August 12, 2021, 08:28:08 AM
- Trade and invest in what you really know and understand
- Trade and invest money that you can afford to loose
- Never follow hype and FOMO in which you don;t know the projects exactly
- Don't play with your emotion (very happy, sad, panic, and others. Be wise and smart on everythig.)

Indeed. All you've mentioned above was great and very true. Trade only on the things you only know and understand. If you don't know more about the other coins then don't forced yourself to trade and don't be greedy just to earn money. Learn to set aside funds. When you want to trade or invest, only use your prepared money. Anyone who trades when they have excess emotions they will not be able to succeed from trading because it doesn't usually use good analysis. When you start on trading it should be avoided and you must also learn to control your emotions especially market prices always changes.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Wawa2013 on August 12, 2021, 09:03:12 AM
- Trade and invest in what you really know and understand
- Trade and invest money that you can afford to loose
- Never follow hype and FOMO in which you don;t know the projects exactly
- Don't play with your emotion (very happy, sad, panic, and others. Be wise and smart on everythig.)

Indeed. All you've mentioned above was great and very true. Trade only on the things you only know and understand. If you don't know more about the other coins then don't forced yourself to trade and don't be greedy just to earn money. Learn to set aside funds. When you want to trade or invest, only use your prepared money. Anyone who trades when they have excess emotions they will not be able to succeed from trading because it doesn't usually use good analysis. When you start on trading it should be avoided and you must also learn to control your emotions especially market prices always changes.

Trading is not easy, there are many factors that must be considered in order to make a profit from trading. But the most difficult thing for me is to keep
my emotions under control and not to overdo it. If our emotions are not controlled, the effects will be fatal enough, we can make the wrong decisions.
Therefore several times I lost a lot of money when trading, because I panicked seeing the prices in the market which were always changing rapidly.
Fortunately, now I can control my emotions, so now I am calmer to see price movements in the market.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Anamika1000 on August 12, 2021, 09:49:04 AM
Yes, you are right, because in trading everything can happen. You should be ready for both situations whether it may be in the form of loss or it may be in a form of profit. The main thing is consistency and keeps patience. So, it will only lead to minimum loss and more profit. No emotions should be involved in trading.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: skarais on August 12, 2021, 09:56:27 AM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
If you think that they are new to the market then I think you should also advise them not to invest if they are not ready to take the risk of losing. They should also be advised to invest in the amount they can afford to lose so that they do not worry about price fluctuation in the market. Basically everyone who is interested in this investment and trading should gain valuable experience and lesson in the market whether it is due to losses or something else that can make them understand how the market actually works.

Beside emotion, greed is also not the best way to be applied in trading. The price is constantly fluctuating and anyone can never know what will happen in the future for the asset they are investing in, they really have to take this into account.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Lakai01 on August 12, 2021, 10:55:32 AM
My belief is that OP isn't even a newbie to start with. They just posted from a noob account with the intention of dragging users to their private channel and if things go sour their account (if they had posted from the main) won't get tagged. Did you get that point now?
What private channel are you talking about here? OP has neither posted a channel nor advertised another channel in any of his previous posts? Did you possibly get the wrong thread and meant another thread creator?

Regarding your driver's license comparison: No, but I wouldn't judge the driver's skills by the car he drives either.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: michellee on August 12, 2021, 11:36:54 AM
If he buys in altcoin when the price rises and does not know when to sell to take profit, he will only get in the trap at the high price and he needs to wait for a long time before he can sell his altcoins. But if he can buy the altcoin at a low price and still buy when the price getting deeper and hold it again, he can have a chance to sell the coin at a high price because sometimes the altcoin price can increase so high and getting pump.

But in this matter, the emotion will matter as when he buys when the price rises because he will think that he can be too late to profit from that coin if he does not take action. If that happens to him, maybe he does not have to chase instead of searching for the other coins that can increase soon. For the altcoin, I am sure we will have many chances to select the altcoin and do not just depend on one or two coins because we can diversify our investment in more than two coins. But that will depend on how you can manage your coins.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: ven7net on August 12, 2021, 12:12:16 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

Indeed, very often people invest simply in the hope of getting a quick profit, and very often when the market goes down, they sell their asset, losing money. Of course, all this does it on emotions and I know about it because I myself very often find myself in such a situation. In order not to get into such situations, you need to study more information, have your own action plan and strictly follow it, this is the only way you can save your invested funds and even make a profit.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: danherbias07 on August 12, 2021, 01:53:50 PM
To make it short, it's called "panic". Never rely on your emotions, that's true but can you really control it. Once the market starts fluctuating in a motion you never expected it's getting more difficult to predict the next movement. Even upon reading all the TA of every high accuracy traders there will be a chance the market could go sideways.
When it's your money that is on the line you have to be ready to lose it anytime. I guess that's what makes an emotionless trader.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: lablab03 on August 12, 2021, 02:15:45 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
yep i agreed with you bro. Maybe a best strategy just to control our emotions before investing in different projects. Especially if we have negative doubts when it comes new projects . So much better to test it first with small amount like you said above if it truly have potential, as the matter of fact its getting unpredictable right now to pick good project..so we need to be smart as well in order to keep our money safe always. And it doesn't matter what wil be the results afterwards, coz it's just a small amount, instead of losing your capital which is nit a good idea. Lmao


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: syedakhlaque on August 12, 2021, 02:28:41 PM
Actually, trading is a business of sense and calm. Because there are ups and downs in the market. There are big losses and profits. So sensible, coolness is needed in this business. It is very difficult to cover a loss immediately but patience covers it and changes the loss in profit. But you have to wait & show peace not affecting emotion and sentiments.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Alisha-k on August 12, 2021, 03:43:39 PM
emotions should never be traded i love the caption. but its not really as easy as it sounds and this is where discipline comes into full play because for people who feel crypto investment is a ponzi scheme the easily get carried away by their emotions and end up selling the dip. if you are confident of the project you invested in buy more of the dip. if it falls further still buy more because once the correction sets in you will be glad you did.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: NeverSop on August 12, 2021, 04:30:45 PM
Emotions are the main reason people are at an advantage/disadvantage in this market.  In the first stage, everyone will have expressions of stress, a little doubt, lack of trust, lack of understanding, etc. In that state, people are susceptible to pressure and lead to psychological breakdown.  panic out of the market.  This only Rekt, investing blindly, impatiently also leads to his decision changing abruptly.  That is very useful advice for newbies, they need to practice crawling before running.  It is necessary to understand and be aware if you want to succeed in the crypto space.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Findingnemo on August 12, 2021, 04:37:40 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
Trading or investing without any actual goal and strategy then its a gamble, either we will make it or not. But as a professional trader they should do lot of research about the coin and emotions will definitely affect us but with the experience we can overcome it and make the right decisions according to the market conditions.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Hamphser on August 12, 2021, 05:57:05 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
Trading or investing without any actual goal and strategy then its a gamble, either we will make it or not. But as a professional trader they should do lot of research about the coin and emotions will definitely affect us but with the experience we can overcome it and make the right decisions according to the market conditions.
A gamble indeed and in every investment decision we would take then it would really be needing that analysis and knowledge because if you do just dive in without any knowledge then for sure you are just simply

gambling out your money and also if you do really tolerate that emotion you do have in times of trading and mess up your decision then that would really be a regrettable thing to have.

You shouldnt really make yourself get affected even though its hard but doesnt mean it is impossible.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: AakZaki on August 12, 2021, 09:32:29 PM
Even a professional still has an unstable psychology. psychology must really be regulated so as not to have a bad impact on trading. don't do stupid things like follow FOMO and then get stuck at a price that is too high, then do a cut loss. it is very detrimental.
Learn from every mistake made, don't repeat it again. trading must be with good strategy and management. don't put the ball in one basket.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: ultrloa on August 12, 2021, 09:58:04 PM
Even a professional still has an unstable psychology. psychology must really be regulated so as not to have a bad impact on trading. don't do stupid things like follow FOMO and then get stuck at a price that is too high, then do a cut loss. it is very detrimental.
Learn from every mistake made, don't repeat it again. trading must be with good strategy and management. don't put the ball in one basket.

Certain things will come to each trader since even how good they are still they will be FOMO for certain situations that can mis concept them on certain movements of the price of the coins in the market. But what good thing about those great traders is they know how to recover back their losses and that one is the attitude we need to follow if we want to earn and we shouldn't get panic ince market goes down and always treat it as perfect time to buy.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: kawetsriyanto on August 12, 2021, 10:02:27 PM
~snip~
If someone just experiences the price correction one time, it is normal to be panic. But for those who experience it for years, it is very unfortunate to be panic. How can they don't know the crypto market nature? Traders who spend time for years in crypto market should know the correction isn't the end of their coins. Just be calm, patient, and wait for the next pump of their crypto coins! That is exactly what they need to do, right?  :-\



Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Zilon on August 12, 2021, 10:25:55 PM
[quote author=Bitcoin9920 link=topic=5353935.msg57670356#msg5767035However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
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This is one of the best trading advice @op. Always hold if possible buy the dip the more and keep holding. for newbies its really not easy dealing with emotions it's always a gradual process which will certainly be overcomes over time. Crypto investment is not a kind of venture a newbie should take-up alone. The market structure keeps updating and as a newbie to the system you will encounter strange moves from various coins and tokens getting a mentor for me is preferred.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: boyptc on August 12, 2021, 10:37:20 PM
Emotions won't help us gain profit but instead it will lead us to have a lot of loses. If you do trading you should be aware about the price changes in the market and hold on your emotions. Trading also requires patience and strategy based on your experience.
Hold your emotions if it's not contributing good to your trades.

Saw that happened with other traders and they've ended up losing more because they're mentally breaking down. It's the worst enemy, yourself, your emotion.

So don't be too pushy if you think that you're in that state.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: harizen on August 12, 2021, 10:45:19 PM
As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

It's fine to trade with emotions during newbie days even it will result mostly at loss. And honestly, pros and experts are being like that too. No one can avoid that as that was a part of human nature.

Why? I'd rather see newbies experience that because that will be their foundation to be better traders in the future. I don't like to see them having an easy path on the way because how will they learn if there's no mistake on the way.

As they progress, they will now eventually learned how to control emotions over trades. Building trading experience is the key.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Lanatsa on August 12, 2021, 10:49:39 PM
As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

It's fine to trade with emotions during newbie days even it will result mostly at loss. And honestly, pros and experts are being like that too. No one can avoid that as that was a part of human nature.

Why? I'd rather see newbies experience that because that will be their foundation to be better traders in the future. I don't like to see them having an easy path on the way because how will they learn if there's no mistake on the way.

As they progress, they will now eventually learned how to control emotions over trades. Building trading experience is the key.
Not all people do start on becoming a pro on their first try and its just normal that we would be experiencing those impulsive kind of reactions due to emotions specially in our first tries which is normal.

This is a common reaction when you do dealt on things which you haven't experience before and as normal human being then those reactions cant really be avoided or totally certain

but when you do already gain up experience then this is where true trading do happens or investment that you must really be careful on making decisions.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: goldade on August 12, 2021, 11:07:24 PM
One of the major reasons for losses in trading is simply because many people trade based on their emotions. They are not able to control their emotions and as such make mistakes.
If you'd ask me, I'd say one must learn to control one's emotions before one can venture into trading. One must be able to make calculated decisions and not irrational ones because of emotions


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 13, 2021, 06:02:32 AM
Emotions are the main reason people are at an advantage/disadvantage in this market.  In the first stage, everyone will have expressions of stress, a little doubt, lack of trust, lack of understanding, etc. In that state, people are susceptible to pressure and lead to psychological breakdown.  panic out of the market.  This only Rekt, investing blindly, impatiently also leads to his decision changing abruptly.  That is very useful advice for newbies, they need to practice crawling before running.  It is necessary to understand and be aware if you want to succeed in the crypto space.

You are right, but to avoid all this it must be taken into account that it depends on the personality, each person is different, they have different ways of thinking and acting. In general, those who fall into stress and despair are people who do not have much knowledge, that is why reading books would not be bad for them, currently many people are guided by influencers through social networks, especially on YouTube, those who give advice, they do not even follow it themselves, if a person reads books about investment, trading, that does not have to do only with technical analysis, they can do very well, books by Robert Kiyosaki, Warren Buffet are the ones that are recommended for Investors, for market speculators I recommend Livermore, Wyckoff, among others, but if there is knowledge, it is known what to do in various scenarios.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: RokokGudangGaram on August 13, 2021, 06:48:12 AM
You are right we should never consider emotions when doing technical analysis but I know that it's not easy not to consider it especially we're human but if we managed to master it and rely only in technical analysis we would be able to trade efficiently and probably accurate.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Mamun74 on August 13, 2021, 07:18:37 AM
When you start trading,  then try to control your emotion.Trading is business point in the crypto market. Honesty to say that when you are real trader then you don’t need panic.If you make the right decision, then you can improve you trading business.I honesty say again keep patience and move on.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: tvplus006 on August 13, 2021, 10:20:01 AM
Actually, trading is a business of sense and calm. Because there are ups and downs in the market. There are big losses and profits. So sensible, coolness is needed in this business. It is very difficult to cover a loss immediately but patience covers it and changes the loss in profit. But you have to wait & show peace not affecting emotion and sentiments.

Despite this, very often after a loss-making transaction, beginners have a desire to immediately return their money and for this they open a risky transaction for a large amount without analyzing the market. As a result, they get another unprofitable bargain, which leads to a complete reset of the balance.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: carrigan on August 13, 2021, 12:16:15 PM
I agree with you. emotions should not be poured when you are trading this is a big mistake, you can make the wrong decisions and not focus. You need to be able to control your emotions in order to be able to analyze the market well. Don't be easily provoked by emotions when the market rises sharply or vice versa. before you buy or sell coins you really have to understand and analyze the possibilities that will happen. if you have already bought coins at a high price and the market suddenly drops, you can choose to hold temporarily instead of having to sell coins at a low price.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Xinarae* on August 13, 2021, 12:26:21 PM
Risks cannot be avoided if emotions are not controlled emotions should be controlled whether you trade or not. The emotional person is never able to make the right decision so the process of losing will be more if you ever lose a large amount of money, you should first plan how to recover the loss quickly not quickly never forget to be emotional and take more risks. In order to recover the loss quickly if you zero the account with more risk it will not be traded anymore so even if it takes time slowly cut the loss in stages first then try to gain again.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: breathlessz on August 13, 2021, 01:13:19 PM
Risks cannot be avoided if emotions are not controlled emotions should be controlled whether you trade or not. The emotional person is never able to make the right decision so the process of losing will be more if you ever lose a large amount of money, you should first plan how to recover the loss quickly not quickly never forget to be emotional and take more risks. In order to recover the loss quickly if you zero the account with more risk it will not be traded anymore so even if it takes time slowly cut the loss in stages first then try to gain again.
When we are emotional, of course, we cannot think in a healthy way, so whatever we do cannot be controlled because it is controlled by emotions. they don't think that later there will be another opportunity to make a profit, and today's loss is cut loss and tomorrow we are looking for profit again. It's little things like this that rarely can be done by everyone


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Vaculin on August 13, 2021, 01:23:19 PM
I agree with you. emotions should not be poured when you are trading this is a big mistake, you can make the wrong decisions and not focus. You need to be able to control your emotions in order to be able to analyze the market well. Don't be easily provoked by emotions when the market rises sharply or vice versa. before you buy or sell coins you really have to understand and analyze the possibilities that will happen. if you have already bought coins at a high price and the market suddenly drops, you can choose to hold temporarily instead of having to sell coins at a low price.
it was too easy to tell but honestly, it was too hard in real life. That is why only a few people have become successful while numbers of traders just fail. I know that nobody wants such a thing but because we are human beings, surely we can still felt it no matter what we say we have to stop. Maybe this is one reason why some traders are using trading bots aside from having no time on the computer but will likely to help from being emotionally stress.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Qirtov on August 13, 2021, 01:55:56 PM
Emotions become a barrier to trading because some people still find it difficult to control them. it seems that practicing self-control of emotions is important before you enter the world of cryptocurrency because it will be useless if you understand the basics of krypto but can't hold back emotions. The crypto market will often play with your emotions, so you really have to be aware of the situation. especially if you are young panic this is really not recommended. You have to train your emotions from now on.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Mamun74 on August 13, 2021, 02:07:30 PM
When you start trading with excess emotion then you don’t success in trading. Trading is a Business. You should control your emotion When you trade. Remember that emotion Won't able to success your trading.  Learn from every mistake, Don't be panic.Kepp patience and move on.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Ararbermas on August 13, 2021, 02:17:21 PM
Actually if you really educate your self at the first place such what are the disadvantage and advantage and challenges to face in trading, perhaps you can control your emotions and you know already what's the best solution for any scenario in trading.
but sad to say more people nowadays is diving in without hesitation and repent afterwards. They don't aware in any circumstances when it comes trading even they can't afford to lose money from it.  
Trading isn't a joke to be honest wherein if they will continue doing the same mistakes and don't have any plan to educate their self first while it's not late. Then all i can say is good luck!..


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: AakZaki on August 13, 2021, 02:21:13 PM
Certain things will come to each trader since even how good they are still they will be FOMO for certain situations that can mis concept them on certain movements of the price of the coins in the market. But what good thing about those great traders is they know how to recover back their losses and that one is the attitude we need to follow if we want to earn and we shouldn't get panic ince market goes down and always treat it as perfect time to buy.
panic will only add to our losses more and more. professionals will indeed have a backup strategy when they are caught in a situation that will cost them money. restoring the situation and recovering losses is certainly not easy, it takes good analysis to find out where the market will go. Capital reserves are also needed to recover losses.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Questat on August 13, 2021, 03:03:06 PM
Actually if you really educate your self at the first place such what are the disadvantage and advantage and challenges to face in trading, perhaps you can control your emotions and you know already what's the best solution for any scenario in trading.
but sad to say more people nowadays is diving in without hesitation and repent afterwards. They don't aware in any circumstances when it comes trading even they can't afford to lose money from it.  
They rush on the market thinking all in the positive but never in their thinking what will happen if they commit mistakes. They keep ignoring the negative side of trading. Lack of market knowledge, overconfident, and lastly, they have no plan.

Quote
Trading isn't a joke to be honest wherein if they will continue doing the same mistakes and don't have any plan to educate their self first while it's not late. Then all i can say is good luck!..

Committing mistakes were common for the novice but if that could be consistently doing, there is no way to succeed. I could really be seeing big losses on their side than making money. Changing their attitude might help it out but the best thing it helps them is to find a way to correct their mistakes as soon as possible.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: xmonkeyx on August 13, 2021, 03:31:13 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
that's right, that's why when buying at a high price and suddenly the price drops it makes you panic so that you decide to stop loss and hold your loss is a mistake that often occurs and is done by beginners. if in my opinion look at the prospect of the coin before investing and leave it or keep it on hold until you get a profit.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Kelvinid on August 13, 2021, 03:59:13 PM
Personally, if we wanted to have positive results on our trade, we have to learn first how to control our emotions. Apparently, this was the challenging part of trading as we all know that it was really hard to do it in real life.

Although we can't make ourselves to commit that, it wasn't a failure for me. Emotions are a natural feeling for everyone and could certainly it gives a huge impact on our trades (negatively) but have to accept this as we have no chance to stop nor to totally eliminate this thing.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: qwertyup23 on August 13, 2021, 04:31:49 PM
As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

I have to highlight the last point you made since this is the most important aspect in trading- "never trade based on your emotions."

The problem with trading stems from the experience of the trader. More often than not, most newbie traders are not accustomed to trading with their resources. They have this false sense of security and hope that whenever they trade, it is going to be considered as "easy money" on their end. But in reality, most newbie day traders lose like 97% of their money.

 Like what I previously mentioned, experience plays a vital role in this type of field. Once you get to establish all the necessary indicators, then your trading portfolio would be manageable.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: zanezane on August 13, 2021, 04:56:21 PM
When you start trading with excess emotion then you don’t success in trading. Trading is a Business. You should control your emotion When you trade. Remember that emotion Won't able to success your trading.  Learn from every mistake, Don't be panic.Kepp patience and move on.
Just learn how to control it and you will be good to go, remember that it's your mentality and attitude that can save you when you are trading, trading is risky in itself so you don't want to mix it with erratic emotions.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: ReiMomo on August 13, 2021, 05:58:41 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

This is kind of falling into manipulation. As you correctly say, lets not get into order books when the market is manipulated. Never get in when the concern coin you wish to invest, just suddenly goes up. Analyse and be updated on new updates to the coin you are investing. For an example, if you are going to invest in a good coin and thats going to be listed on a reputed exchange, then yes, you have your treat there. Like wise, watch out for good updates and wait and place your order accordingly. Never let your emotion lead you on trading. 


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: TheGreatPython on August 13, 2021, 08:33:22 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
This is the problem with a lot of people, they are always finding it difficult to know when they should invest their money. For them the best time to start investing is when the market is going up and when they start selling is when the market is going down. They just don’t know what to do, and due to that, they will invest wrongly and lose their money. It happens to a lot of people. Instead of buying an asset when the market is going up, it’s best to buy it when it crashes and then hold it till the value increases and then you sell it before the market starts to crash.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Mahanton on August 13, 2021, 09:11:43 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
This is the problem with a lot of people, they are always finding it difficult to know when they should invest their money. For them the best time to start investing is when the market is going up and when they start selling is when the market is going down. They just don’t know what to do, and due to that, they will invest wrongly and lose their money. It happens to a lot of people. Instead of buying an asset when the market is going up, it’s best to buy it when it crashes and then hold it till the value increases and then you sell it before the market starts to crash.
How come that it became simple?  Its always been difficult on where we should invest our money and due to doubts and hesitations then its normal that decisions would really become a hard thing to call on.
Emotions is common because we are just human and we do value much our money that we do hardly earned and in the time that we do consider out some investment the those kind of emotions
would pop out and when you arent having some experiences then this is where mistakes do came from and we should really be aware and be prepared on what are the things
we should gonna do next.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: topbitcoin on August 13, 2021, 09:18:54 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
Being emotional in trading activity can be happen to anyone, even traders who already get a lot of experience in trading sometime faced it. If me honeslt i am not resist if in day trading i always get emotional that is why i change my trading style to buy and hold big coins. Maybe other people if can really push their emotion in trading and keep stay calm, will be very success in it.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: kawetsriyanto on August 13, 2021, 09:25:01 PM
remember that it's your mentality and attitude that can save you when you are trading
Yep. Have a good mentality or attitude such as the ability to control emotion, is exactly a crucial thing in trading. When you trade with emotion, you probably decide to buy or sell your coins instantly, without considering fundamentals or any other factors. This can lead to big losses and you may end your trading journey soon after that. There are many cases that people leave trading because they cannot control their emotions. It should be a warning for us to improve our ability in controlling emotions.



Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: dothebeats on August 13, 2021, 09:37:11 PM
A lot of people still fall prey to their emotions when it comes to investing and trading. Take for example Axie Infinity and its SLP token ATH in July. A lot of people impulsively bought axies back then and ended up seeing the rewards greatly diminished after the price of the SLP token normalized. Some friends also got burned, though they would still be able to recoup the losses if they stay patient and not try to sell what they have right now.

Had they studied the market properly and realized that the hype is just temporary, they wouldn’t get anxious if they can still get back the money they invested for several teams. It is what it is though, and there’s really no changing things that happened except for learning from those past lessons.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: AakZaki on August 13, 2021, 09:38:58 PM
Personally, if we wanted to have positive results on our trade, we have to learn first how to control our emotions. Apparently, this was the challenging part of trading as we all know that it was really hard to do it in real life.

Although we can't make ourselves to commit that, it wasn't a failure for me. Emotions are a natural feeling for everyone and could certainly it gives a huge impact on our trades (negatively) but have to accept this as we have no chance to stop nor to totally eliminate this thing.
Emotions that exist in us can not be stopped, but still can be controlled. The best way to train emotions or psychology when trading is to trade as often as possible, it will train our emotions to what extent. when we are able to control our emotions and not panic too much when the market conditions are not good, of course we will trade in the right way according to the initial strategy.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Marvelman on August 13, 2021, 09:41:04 PM
... Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

I think the most important thing you can do as an investor is research and make sure you know what you are doing. If you don't know what you are investing in and how to invest, stay away. It's very important to understand and do your own research. Many people think they are following the fundamentals but in reality, they have a lack of knowledge and this can lead to emotional reactions instead of rational ones.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: seleme on August 13, 2021, 09:42:46 PM
That is the problem, the more we become greedy the higher frequency of trading decisions we accept. Using reverse psychology works in trending markets, wait for the correction and buy while everyone else sells. Watch breakouts near support resistance lines and make correct decisions after analyzing sentimental ratio instead of trusting your emotions.

... Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

I think the most important thing you can do as an investor is research and make sure you know what you are doing. If you don't know what you are investing in and how to invest, stay away. It's very important to understand and do your own research. Many people think they are following the fundamentals but in reality, they have a lack of knowledge and this can lead to emotional reactions instead of rational ones.

Having a Ph.D. in trading or economy doesn't make a person a good trader, profitable trading is a completely different context than teaching someone else how to trade. Having emotions and using these emotions for trading is very dangerous, professional traders know how to control their mindset for not failing in trading decisions. That is why following other traders don't make a person a profitable trader.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Issa56 on August 13, 2021, 10:13:39 PM
Seriously if you really want to trade with your emotions then you are ready to lose all your money, if you want to trade don't fall in love with any coin don't say because you like a particular coin then you will always trade it I believe if you are a trader you should always trade base on calculation and your a analysis and not your emotions.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: 3la9l_kolbaCa on August 13, 2021, 10:32:48 PM
It's difficult to calculate when a person who do the trading has no adequate knowledge on what he was doing.
Difficulties will always made him more undesirable, yet so panic when it comes to price fluctuations.
That's why it's so important to learn from a certain basic process up to the final steps in order for us to become skillful of everything in trading.
Without any of those particular things, I don't think we're going to conquer our emotions while in the midst of trading uncertainties.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Rengga Jati on August 13, 2021, 11:09:27 PM
-snip-
Exactly.
Some newbies may not pay attention to those simple things. What on their minds may be only doing trading and investing like others to be richer overnight (LOL).
But in fact, they don't even know what they are doing and in what cases they are. And only following people. This often happens to them, and finally, they regret and are disappointed with the results, whereas, that is their own mistakes.

..But the most difficult thing for me is to keep
my emotions under control and not to overdo it...
I think that this is a normal condition, everyone may be full of emotions, sometimes. But, experiences will teach us and will tell us what to do best.
The worst is when we cannot control it all over the time, without any learning from the previous lesson and experiences.
Feeling panic at a glance when the price is suddenly dropped may be normal, however, we must be able to control it next before it can destroy ourselves to be panic and panic again.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: dunfida on August 13, 2021, 11:54:03 PM
It's difficult to calculate when a person who do the trading has no adequate knowledge on what he was doing.
Difficulties will always made him more undesirable, yet so panic when it comes to price fluctuations.
That's why it's so important to learn from a certain basic process up to the final steps in order for us to become skillful of everything in trading.
Without any of those particular things, I don't think we're going to conquer our emotions while in the midst of trading uncertainties.
Everyones starts on being a noob and its just normal that mistakes could really happen since we do still lack knowledge.Emotions would be there which is normal.

Due to lack of knowledge then you would really be ending up on confusion which would result into bad decisions and when you do gain experience and you had already

mold up yourself to be a better trader then you could able to handle your emotions well as you do go ahead.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: trannguyenbtc on August 14, 2021, 01:22:21 AM
Emotional trading leads the trader on the wrong path and does not allow them to make profits. As a trader, if you want to be the master of trading, you have to avoid emotional trading. Sometimes, traders start emotional trading unconsciously. As a result, they fail to fulfill their dreams in the market.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: awik p on August 14, 2021, 04:46:54 AM
It's difficult to calculate when a person who do the trading has no adequate knowledge on what he was doing.
Difficulties will always made him more undesirable, yet so panic when it comes to price fluctuations.
That's why it's so important to learn from a certain basic process up to the final steps in order for us to become skillful of everything in trading.
Without any of those particular things, I don't think we're going to conquer our emotions while in the midst of trading uncertainties.
Everyones starts on being a noob and its just normal that mistakes could really happen since we do still lack knowledge.Emotions would be there which is normal.

Due to lack of knowledge then you would really be ending up on confusion which would result into bad decisions and when you do gain experience and you had already

mold up yourself to be a better trader then you could able to handle your emotions well as you do go ahead.
we often hear this from the experience of other traders, and of course every trader after real trading will experience it too. after we have real experience then we should be able to learn from experience and erode emotions little by little until we finally become professional traders


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: VanityWallets2015 on August 14, 2021, 07:51:21 AM
Yes never add it in your trade emotion should be set off aside, whenever I am trading I always put stop profit and stop loss (depends on my analysis) and after that I just leave it and wait for notification on my phone whether I lost or I earn profit in that way my emotions wouldn't be part of my trade, that's my style of trading.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on August 14, 2021, 01:13:04 PM
Yes never add it in your trade emotion should be set off aside, whenever I am trading I always put stop profit and stop loss (depends on my analysis) and after that I just leave it and wait for notification on my phone whether I lost or I earn profit in that way my emotions wouldn't be part of my trade, that's my style of trading.
It's alright to have emotion, don't set it aside, instead try to control it rather than setting it aside, what you can get from controlling it is that it's not going to get bottled up compared to setting it aside. Learning to harness your emotion is much better than ignoring.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: BuNga_cute on August 14, 2021, 01:29:35 PM
Yes never add it in your trade emotion should be set off aside, whenever I am trading I always put stop profit and stop loss (depends on my analysis) and after that I just leave it and wait for notification on my phone whether I lost or I earn profit in that way my emotions wouldn't be part of my trade, that's my style of trading.
It's alright to have emotion, don't set it aside, instead try to control it rather than setting it aside, what you can get from controlling it is that it's not going to get bottled up compared to setting it aside. Learning to harness your emotion is much better than ignoring.

Everyone has emotions, so don't worry too much about your emotions. Humans have the ability to control their own emotions, so as long as our
emotions are controlled, there will be no harm in doing anything. Including if we are going to trade, we must be able to control our emotions.
Don't let us make decisions based on emotions, always think positively and be tolerant of the problems we face when trading, it can be very useful
so that our emotions are more controlled.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: celot on August 14, 2021, 03:00:53 PM
Yes never add it in your trade emotion should be set off aside, whenever I am trading I always put stop profit and stop loss (depends on my analysis) and after that I just leave it and wait for notification on my phone whether I lost or I earn profit in that way my emotions wouldn't be part of my trade, that's my style of trading.
It's alright to have emotion, don't set it aside, instead try to control it rather than setting it aside, what you can get from controlling it is that it's not going to get bottled up compared to setting it aside. Learning to harness your emotion is much better than ignoring.

Everyone has emotions, so don't worry too much about your emotions. Humans have the ability to control their own emotions, so as long as our
emotions are controlled, there will be no harm in doing anything. Including if we are going to trade, we must be able to control our emotions.
Don't let us make decisions based on emotions, always think positively and be tolerant of the problems we face when trading, it can be very useful
so that our emotions are more controlled.

a good emotion is the emotion of ambition, not ambition.. if it is ambitious, it means that it has exceeded the limit or it can be said that we can no longer control ourselves. This is where the importance of positive emotions. But I'm sure if emotions are still logical, we will never get out of a trade with a failed result.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Cling18 on August 14, 2021, 03:02:16 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest. You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

It's one of the common mistakes of traders nowadays especially beginners. They are usually carried by the hype which influences them to make inappropriate decisions. As for me, it's important that we'll have a background check on a certain coin before investing in it and not just because it's on-trend. We should control our emotions so we'll never make wrong decisions.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: seleme on August 14, 2021, 08:24:35 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest. You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

It's one of the common mistakes of traders nowadays especially beginners. They are usually carried by the hype which influences them to make inappropriate decisions. As for me, it's important that we'll have a background check on a certain coin before investing in it and not just because it's on-trend. We should control our emotions so we'll never make wrong decisions.
It is ok to emotionally trade the coin that you have traded a million times and your 6th sense forces you to buy more even if the technical analysis doesn't support this decision. In the case of inexperienced traders, it is gambling better to place a bet on red/black on a roulette table at least you wouldn't wait long and the instant result will give 2x back without fake price(odds) movement.

Yes never add it in your trade emotion should be set off aside, whenever I am trading I always put stop profit and stop loss (depends on my analysis) and after that I just leave it and wait for notification on my phone whether I lost or I earn profit in that way my emotions wouldn't be part of my trade, that's my style of trading.
It's alright to have emotion, don't set it aside, instead try to control it rather than setting it aside, what you can get from controlling it is that it's not going to get bottled up compared to setting it aside. Learning to harness your emotion is much better than ignoring.

Everyone has emotions, so don't worry too much about your emotions. Humans have the ability to control their own emotions, so as long as our
emotions are controlled, there will be no harm in doing anything. Including if we are going to trade, we must be able to control our emotions.
Don't let us make decisions based on emotions, always think positively and be tolerant of the problems we face when trading, it can be very useful
so that our emotions are more controlled.

a good emotion is the emotion of ambition, not ambition.. if it is ambitious, it means that it has exceeded the limit or it can be said that we can no longer control ourselves. This is where the importance of positive emotions. But I'm sure if emotions are still logical, we will never get out of a trade with a failed result.
No matter how you feel positive or negative, the trading result shouldn't be affected by your emotions. It doesn't make sense to just keep trading on the same patterns just because you feel good or bad, the importance of a trading plan is essential to keep the profit curve up. In another hand, emotional trading will make you feel drained and you only make trading decisions based on the previous trading experience only.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: boyptc on August 14, 2021, 10:24:06 PM
It's alright to have emotion, don't set it aside, instead try to control it rather than setting it aside, what you can get from controlling it is that it's not going to get bottled up compared to setting it aside. Learning to harness your emotion is much better than ignoring.
It's the same I think.

Setting aside and controlling it, you're doing the same thing of bypassing your emotion so that it won't intervene with your trades.

Because once you go affected through your emotion, you're going to see the negative effect from those trades that you're trying to make and can also make you panic.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: DibiaVxosis on August 14, 2021, 11:11:20 PM
That's always going to be a problem with us, humans, who have emotional sides and overthinking factors that ride over our heads. You can never be successful if you are too vigorous with it and deciding on those feelings. When people do that, that's because of the gambling nature that we have and not the rational one. We need to be consistent to be successful and follow risk management instead of just going all in.

Don't be envious of what other people have because they might have a different starting point than you. Just be patient, and everything will fall into place in the long run. Plus, use a tool like Gunbot (https://gunbot.ph) to assist your trading.
Perfectly said, I overthink so much and it affects me so bad in the crypto space, not being able to make the right decision at the right time, I find myself always in the FOMO state, this makes me loose when am not supposed to and it's really so bad, and am trying to change that. Being emotional isn't good in this space and I will do my best not to be an over thinker, and will always make the right choices at the right time.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Ziskinberg on August 14, 2021, 11:23:04 PM
It's alright to have emotion, don't set it aside, instead try to control it rather than setting it aside, what you can get from controlling it is that it's not going to get bottled up compared to setting it aside. Learning to harness your emotion is much better than ignoring.
It's the same I think.

Setting aside and controlling it, you're doing the same thing of bypassing your emotion so that it won't intervene with your trades.

Because once you go affected through your emotion, you're going to see the negative effect from those trades that you're trying to make and can also make you panic.
We can't hide this emotion as surely it will come nor we can fully control it no matter what we do. But, if we have some trust and confidence in what we are doing, we can lower it down. It just to happens for most is that they let their emotion control their action which surely could drive them to make bad decisions. The only way to help this thing is to let our mind think about what really be the best thing to do, not makes our emotions decide.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Hippocrypto on August 14, 2021, 11:35:19 PM
We can't hide this emotion as surely it will come nor we can fully control it no matter what we do. But, if we have some trust and confidence in what we are doing, we can lower it down. It just to happens for most is that they let their emotion control their action which surely could drive them to make bad decisions. The only way to help this thing is to let our mind think about what really be the best thing to do, not makes our emotions decide.

Eventually these people who used to let their emotions go beyond control was because of negativities behind them. They'll putting it as a practice and don't develop self esteem which motivates them to become stronger.
Letting our emotions decide was really no assurance but failures. We need to learn everything in order to prevent losing because of fear and worries.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: suryana on August 15, 2021, 09:16:28 AM
Yes never add it in your trade emotion should be set off aside, whenever I am trading I always put stop profit and stop loss (depends on my analysis) and after that I just leave it and wait for notification on my phone whether I lost or I earn profit in that way my emotions wouldn't be part of my trade, that's my style of trading.
It's alright to have emotion, don't set it aside, instead try to control it rather than setting it aside, what you can get from controlling it is that it's not going to get bottled up compared to setting it aside. Learning to harness your emotion is much better than ignoring.

Everyone has emotions, so don't worry too much about your emotions. Humans have the ability to control their own emotions, so as long as our
emotions are controlled, there will be no harm in doing anything. Including if we are going to trade, we must be able to control our emotions.
Don't let us make decisions based on emotions, always think positively and be tolerant of the problems we face when trading, it can be very useful
so that our emotions are more controlled.

a good emotion is the emotion of ambition, not ambition.. if it is ambitious, it means that it has exceeded the limit or it can be said that we can no longer control ourselves. This is where the importance of positive emotions. But I'm sure if emotions are still logical, we will never get out of a trade with a failed result.
What I just discovered is that emotions are positive. maybe you mean emotions on a regular basis that can still be controlled and logical thinking still works. It's all up to each individual how to deal with this.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Panxora_COO on August 15, 2021, 01:25:14 PM
I'm sorry but you are confusing one's professional and private life. Trading with emotion is not profitable. Even if you are a 'gut feel' trader and not a quant model trading, you need to divorce yourself of fear and greed, while learning to profit from the fear and greed in others. In fact, the number of young, inexperienced traders it what makes crypto such an inefficient market and highly profitable.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: pawanjain on August 15, 2021, 03:07:33 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

Very true. Calculating the risks and investing accordingly is an essential factor in trading which many fail to understand.
Going all in and putting buy/sell orders in the wrong time often ends up in a loss.
Even I have faced the same situation quite often and lost my money. The key factor is to invest the right % of the amount at the right time to get profits.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: crwth on August 15, 2021, 04:41:44 PM
Perfectly said, I overthink so much and it affects me so bad in the crypto space, not being able to make the right decision at the right time, I find myself always in the FOMO state, this makes me loose when am not supposed to and it's really so bad, and am trying to change that. Being emotional isn't good in this space and I will do my best not to be an over thinker, and will always make the right choices at the right time.
I do believe that it's natural to feel those things and expect that it's going to go in your way but mostly, it never does. It's ecstatic to know if it did but it's always going to be based on luck and never going to happen all the time. That's why there are strict risk management techniques that you should be utilizing in order to be successful in this trading. Whether it's in crypto or in stocks, it should be followed all the time.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: checkmatesir on August 15, 2021, 04:46:52 PM
To get away from these types of emotions one should follow some of the following tips. First of all always buy in the dip and know about the selling and buying limits which is really important in trading and another thing i must tell you that you trading should be profitable i mean take profit whether it is small or big doesn't matter.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Tahsin Kabir Kollol on August 15, 2021, 05:16:52 PM
Emotion plays an important role in trading and we cannot control it completely. In reality, Emotion will ordinarily come to play when you trading your real asset. It is consistently hard to be totally deadpan with regards to genuine exchanging that whenever cash is included, only that one should be extra cautious so the choice you will make won't be hundred percent affected by the feeling as that will lead you to settle on an off-base exchanging choice. You must gain skills and experience in trading and accustom yourself to making decisions based on acquired skills so that emotional thoughts and emotions do not predominate.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: sana54210 on August 16, 2021, 07:43:18 PM
What I just discovered is that emotions are positive. maybe you mean emotions on a regular basis that can still be controlled and logical thinking still works. It's all up to each individual how to deal with this.
I have to say that it is totally wrong to put emotions into crypto. No matter how you use it, eventually it could actually end up making it bad and you should be avoiding putting your emotions into crypto.

I understand that some emotions could be basically a way to abstract yourself from the situation but the reality is that you should not have anything at all. Why? Because the reality is that we should not be looking into crypto with any feeling, it should be just robotic to trade and that way you could make a lot more profit. I am not saying there are no people in the world who put emotions into crypto and still fail to make money.

I mean Peter Lynch is one of the best investors in the world and he once bought into a stock because his daughter and daughters friend was in love with the company, and he checked and it was a rising company for young women, that is emotion and yet he made more money from that compared to anything in his life. But does that mean he should continue? Next one may not be like that, just because it works once doesn't mean that it will continue to make profit.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Bushdark on August 17, 2021, 07:09:05 AM
Emotion is a factor that runs many trader down. We I say it's as a result of greed, people want to make it by all means. They allow their emotion to control them


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: thecryptogandalf on August 17, 2021, 12:25:46 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

So true, I have read a nice short article about it the other day. Adding the link (https://blog.cleo.one/crypto-bots-why-use-them/) if anyone will be interested in reading.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Rehan Zakir on August 17, 2021, 06:00:20 PM
You are saying right that don't do trading with emotions. It is not so simple.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Sweetbtc on August 17, 2021, 06:49:29 PM
Your are right and i lose many time at start. Whenever market rise and one coin pumped hard then people start to book profit which result dump in price 20%-50%.
Everyone in crypto come here fir iwn profit so be safe in every trade.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: dunfida on August 17, 2021, 07:55:26 PM
Your are right and i lose many time at start. Whenever market rise and one coin pumped hard then people start to book profit which result dump in price 20%-50%.
Everyone in crypto come here fir iwn profit so be safe in every trade.
Losing is inevitable and this is why you should really be that persistent on how you do make yourself to be that handling out on the current situation.It would mainly affect your emotion which would really

be the reason for you on making out rush decisions which would really be the cause of losses.Even though you could handle yourself well in terms of emotions but still wont really be that sufficient or enough

that do guarantee profits because market is unpredictable but at least you could really able to handle up yourself in various situations.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: jossiel on August 17, 2021, 08:33:28 PM
You are saying right that don't do trading with emotions. It is not so simple.
It isn't if you're new to it.

But once you get used to the market, you're settling your emotion because you know how to control it and how it can make your trades win or lose.

It's all about giving yourself the right mindset.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: lalabotax on August 17, 2021, 11:10:26 PM
Once we are playing with our emotions, once we cannot control our emotions, it means that our life will not be better again, in everything we are concerning. Moreover if it si about trading.
Trading is not only about emotions, but emotions will really give a big impact t the process and results of the investment or trading itself.
Panic, carelessness, greedy, immediate, lack of knowledge may become the reason for people falling into trading.
ANd once we can make emotion under control we can start trading easier and well enough.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: BuNga_cute on August 18, 2021, 03:13:34 AM
It's alright to have emotion, don't set it aside, instead try to control it rather than setting it aside, what you can get from controlling it is that it's not going to get bottled up compared to setting it aside. Learning to harness your emotion is much better than ignoring.
Everyone has emotions, so don't worry too much about your emotions. Humans have the ability to control their own emotions, so as long as our
emotions are controlled, there will be no harm in doing anything. Including if we are going to trade, we must be able to control our emotions.
Don't let us make decisions based on emotions, always think positively and be tolerant of the problems we face when trading, it can be very useful
so that our emotions are more controlled.

a good emotion is the emotion of ambition, not ambition.. if it is ambitious, it means that it has exceeded the limit or it can be said that we can no longer control ourselves. This is where the importance of positive emotions. But I'm sure if emotions are still logical, we will never get out of a trade with a failed result.

We must defend good emotions, because they can help us live a good life. Including when trading there is nothing wrong with having good emotions,
But the problem is that most people always have bad emotions controlling them. That's why it's important to control our emotions. I agree we
need ambition to be a successful trader, but there must be a limit. In order not to make us become a failed trader, in conclusion, as I said before,
there is nothing wrong with us having emotions, because it is very human. The most important thing is not to let emotions make us make wrong decisions.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Kimonoe on August 18, 2021, 07:47:03 AM
You are saying right that don't do trading with emotions. It is not so simple.
It isn't if you're new to it.

But once you get used to the market, you're settling your emotion because you know how to control it and how it can make your trades win or lose.

It's all about giving yourself the right mindset.
To get used to the market, we have to trade frequently and evaluate it. the more we practice, the more we will be able to control our emotions by ourselves, as long as we are willing to learn from the mistakes we have made, or learn from the experiences of others.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Sled on August 18, 2021, 08:02:34 AM
Once we are playing with our emotions, once we cannot control our emotions, it means that our life will not be better again, in everything we are concerning. Moreover if it si about trading.
Trading is not only about emotions, but emotions will really give a big impact t the process and results of the investment or trading itself.
Panic, carelessness, greedy, immediate, lack of knowledge may become the reason for people falling into trading.
ANd once we can make emotion under control we can start trading easier and well enough.
Panic and greediness, these emotions are meant nothing good for us as a trader. We can enhance our knowledge so fast but controlling our emotions is really hard in real life.
I can say that some are gifted enough to be good in trading as the majority are not. Even myself, I can't say that I was good at this already because sometimes I've dragged my emotions causing a wrong buy and sell decision. If I only have the tally of all my trades, it surely I lose a lot than in profit.   


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: sumant on August 18, 2021, 08:04:31 AM
Trading is not hard as we experience. When you trade our emotions takes very bad positions but trading more always gives you much more experience and killed emotions. An emotional person can not trade with very frequently. Trading always not happens on paper it plays with our emotions, So after taking a trade forgot everything and give sometime to trade for a profitable journey. Dont trade with lots of emotions because it is a game of win or loss.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: sirminesalot on August 18, 2021, 08:14:31 AM
Trading is not hard as we experience. When you trade our emotions takes very bad positions but trading more always gives you much more experience and killed emotions. An emotional person can not trade with very frequently. Trading always not happens on paper it plays with our emotions, So after taking a trade forgot everything and give sometime to trade for a profitable journey. Dont trade with lots of emotions because it is a game of win or loss.

Becoming a full time trader is quite hard moreover in the crypto market, sometimes even you're already experienced and already passing on thousands trades, the market could always to surprice you because the volatility of crypto market are so fast.

Having a strong mentality is a must and can not involved emotion in every trade. It's okay to loss on some trades as long as we could manage our profits more at the end.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: CryptoYar on August 18, 2021, 08:40:12 AM
~put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
Always stay in stable coin by booking profit as whales manipulating btc price and playing with retail investors.

And only invest your extra money so that you can hold your coins for some time in case you are at a loss and sell them for profit.



Panic and greediness
Well said people get panic when they see a loss.

And get greedy and take a wrong entry( buying at a high price)


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: jossiel on August 18, 2021, 04:33:06 PM
You are saying right that don't do trading with emotions. It is not so simple.
It isn't if you're new to it.

But once you get used to the market, you're settling your emotion because you know how to control it and how it can make your trades win or lose.

It's all about giving yourself the right mindset.
To get used to the market, we have to trade frequently and evaluate it. the more we practice, the more we will be able to control our emotions by ourselves, as long as we are willing to learn from the mistakes we have made, or learn from the experiences of others.
Yes it is.

More practice and deal with your losses to learn what action you must do for your next trades. It will help you to mitigate the losses you've made and at the same time, you gain lesson.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Alert31 on August 18, 2021, 05:58:09 PM
Don't forget always buy low sell high and don't try to reverse it unless you have a great strategy to still gain profit. Emotions is always present even in trading but learn to hold it and don't let your emotion ruin your trading strategy. Patience is an important ingredients in trading so that you can avoid to feel panic everytime market not goes well.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: SquallLeonhart on August 18, 2021, 09:19:42 PM
Becoming a full time trader is quite hard moreover in the crypto market, sometimes even you're already experienced and already passing on thousands trades, the market could always to surprice you because the volatility of crypto market are so fast.

Having a strong mentality is a must and can not involved emotion in every trade. It's okay to loss on some trades as long as we could manage our profits more at the end.
Being a veteran doesn't equal to being in profit, many veterans I know ended up in a loss during the last 3 months, and many newbies I know made a lot of profit the bull run as well. It doesn't just depend on how good you are or how long have you been trading. Of course that is a part of it and I agree that it definitely plays a big role but that doesn't mean that it is the only thing. I am not going to lie, "most" veterans I know profit, and "most" brand new traders lose, that is the true part, I am just saying it is not 100% guaranteed loss for newbies and 100% guaranteed profit for veterans, not even in the long run.

Some people are just bad at trading, and do not understand it, and no matter how many years, even if 7+ years, they keep trading and trading and trading, they may not end up with profit over long period, could profit in some trades but not profitable in the long run. You know how I know? I am that "veteran", been here for 7+ years and been trading and still if you look at my history it is not profiting overall.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Cherylstar86 on August 19, 2021, 12:27:40 AM
Becoming a full time trader is quite hard moreover in the crypto market, sometimes even you're already experienced and already passing on thousands trades, the market could always to surprice you because the volatility of crypto market are so fast.

Having a strong mentality is a must and can not involved emotion in every trade. It's okay to loss on some trades as long as we could manage our profits more at the end.
Being a veteran doesn't equal to being in profit, many veterans I know ended up in a loss during the last 3 months, and many newbies I know made a lot of profit the bull run as well. It doesn't just depend on how good you are or how long have you been trading. Of course that is a part of it and I agree that it definitely plays a big role but that doesn't mean that it is the only thing. I am not going to lie, "most" veterans I know profit, and "most" brand new traders lose, that is the true part, I am just saying it is not 100% guaranteed loss for newbies and 100% guaranteed profit for veterans, not even in the long run.

Some people are just bad at trading, and do not understand it, and no matter how many years, even if 7+ years, they keep trading and trading and trading, they may not end up with profit over long period, could profit in some trades but not profitable in the long run. You know how I know? I am that "veteran", been here for 7+ years and been trading and still if you look at my history it is not profiting overall.
Indeed. Not all veterans gain as huge profit as what other people expected. It doesn't mean that they are already expert on this, they can already gain a huge money and never experience making mistakes. They also losses money because sometimes they use their emotions on trading especially when they feel fear when prices started on dropping or else on increasing. Losing money in trading and gaining is part of it. There's always risk but it is important to manage it. Some of those people experiencing this are those beginners and inexperience traders. They always let their emotions control them when they started trading. Even they have lot of experiences but still they make mistakes because of their emotions.

In terms of doubt for the temporary trend in the market then let your guts decide. Don't just sell if you think you're in loss, and don't hesitate to sell if you know you can gain profit and most especially don't hesitate to buy when market is in loss before you regret it.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: wahyu wida on August 19, 2021, 02:35:10 AM
Becoming a full time trader is quite hard moreover in the crypto market, sometimes even you're already experienced and already passing on thousands trades, the market could always to surprice you because the volatility of crypto market are so fast.

Having a strong mentality is a must and can not involved emotion in every trade. It's okay to loss on some trades as long as we could manage our profits more at the end.
Being a veteran doesn't equal to being in profit, many veterans I know ended up in a loss during the last 3 months, and many newbies I know made a lot of profit the bull run as well. It doesn't just depend on how good you are or how long have you been trading. Of course that is a part of it and I agree that it definitely plays a big role but that doesn't mean that it is the only thing. I am not going to lie, "most" veterans I know profit, and "most" brand new traders lose, that is the true part, I am just saying it is not 100% guaranteed loss for newbies and 100% guaranteed profit for veterans, not even in the long run.

Some people are just bad at trading, and do not understand it, and no matter how many years, even if 7+ years, they keep trading and trading and trading, they may not end up with profit over long period, could profit in some trades but not profitable in the long run. You know how I know? I am that "veteran", been here for 7+ years and been trading and still if you look at my history it is not profiting overall.
Indeed. Not all veterans gain as huge profit as what other people expected. It doesn't mean that they are already expert on this, they can already gain a huge money and never experience making mistakes. They also losses money because sometimes they use their emotions on trading especially when they feel fear when prices started on dropping or else on increasing. Losing money in trading and gaining is part of it. There's always risk but it is important to manage it. Some of those people experiencing this are those beginners and inexperience traders. They always let their emotions control them when they started trading. Even they have lot of experiences but still they make mistakes because of their emotions.

In terms of doubt for the temporary trend in the market then let your guts decide. Don't just sell if you think you're in loss, and don't hesitate to sell if you know you can gain profit and most especially don't hesitate to buy when market is in loss before you regret it.
a professional trader of course they also make mistakes in trading. in a sense, consistent profit in every transaction, may be rare for a trader, especially with typical scalping. therefore they must be able to control their emotions and be disciplined towards the strategy being implemented


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Victorycoin on August 19, 2021, 03:35:25 AM
A lot of knowledge is required to be a trader in crypto market the former is in all of us. Who is more and who is less. Nothing should be done with emotion it is more loss than profit exactly this cannot be done with any kind of passion in the trade market you have to trade in the market with the right target and courage in this you will get success. But if you trade with passion you will lose so we can trade by controlling our emotions only then we can achieve success from the trade.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Mikayla Buckley on August 19, 2021, 06:29:30 AM

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Marcel Proust once said: "The changes in the weather are enough to reshape the world and ourselves."
If Proust goes one step further, he will say that "emotions" are enough to reshape the world and ourselves. After all, our emotions have a lot to do with the weather outside.
Based on our experience as human beings, we are very clear that emotions can "reshape the world and ourselves" and affect our thoughts, judgments and perceptions.
Emotions can make us make wrong judgments when investing. Being driven by emotions to trade is a disaster.
When we have negative emotions, do not make any trading investments.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: gabbie2010 on August 19, 2021, 07:00:39 AM
To get away from these types of emotions one should follow some of the following tips. First of all always buy in the dip and know about the selling and buying limits which is really important in trading and another thing i must tell you that you trading should be profitable i mean take profit whether it is small or big doesn't matter.
Buy at dip might sound strange to a newbie thus one of the prerequisites for a newbie in cryptocurrencies market is to learn, research and seek all the necessary information with regards to market, e.g buying at dip and selling at high, learning how to avoid buying at peak, even after buying when the market suddenly dropped after rising the need to hodl and avoid panic selling is also important, also taking profits appropriately without being greedy is also important due to the high volatility prices of cryptocurrencies, these are the basic understandings that are very crucial towards becoming successful in cryptos.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: jaberwock on August 19, 2021, 02:50:50 PM
Don't forget always buy low sell high and don't try to reverse it unless you have a great strategy to still gain profit. Emotions is always present even in trading but learn to hold it and don't let your emotion ruin your trading strategy. Patience is an important ingredients in trading so that you can avoid to feel panic everytime market not goes well.
Everyone wants to buy cheap and sell high but it is not always possible. I agree one should be patient and ensure he tries to end every trade in profit but that shouldn't mean one ends up losing everything. This also brings the focus back to stop-loss and how important it can be. You shouldn't be emotional to sell the coins cheap but you shouldn't be emotional to catch a falling knife either.

One who studies data and trades for a reason will never have too many worries about being emotional. Would you be too worried if you own some Tesla shares? No, and that's because subconsciously you know the price will do well overall. Similarly, when you trade in crypto with a solid reason, emotions won't affect you too much.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Handpari on August 19, 2021, 06:11:24 PM
Now market is so volatile and  I would wait until 3rd Friday of the month for futures expiration. Markets usually drop. Buying right now prices are too high.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: fullhdpixel on August 20, 2021, 11:58:18 AM
Being a veteran doesn't equal to being in profit, many veterans I know ended up in a loss during the last 3 months, and many newbies I know made a lot of profit the bull run as well.
That's a very good point and most of the time, overlooked. Being a veteran doesn't equal profits because experience only helps you tackle a previously encountered scenario in a better way. For example, someone who panicked in 2015 will act better when the market crashes in 2016 and act in the best way when the market crashes today.

Experience doesn't always improve you actually and sometimes makes you more rigid about your beliefs. Working on your skills is one thing and just gaining experience is another. I feel like experience helps you at a psychological level while working on your skills, abilities helps you at a more logical and technical level.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: cheezcarls on August 20, 2021, 12:50:35 PM
Yes been there done that and I’ve learned my lesson the hard way. I have lost a lot of money due to trading with emotions, especially meme and other shitcoins out there. I’ve ended up buying when some of them have hyped the coin or token, but eventually it died down after the coin or token’s value is down and liquidity was removed by the devs, etc.

Despite that I am tempted of it, I’ve finally learned that I should always DYOR before investing in that coin or token (especially play-to-earn blockchain NFT games).


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Kittygalore on August 20, 2021, 01:53:13 PM
Just be careful with your trading, just wait it out when the prices are going down. Remember that you can't lose your investments if you don't do spontaneous and emotion based decisions because it only makes you prone to losses. I mean if you trade, you can just park the coin there if it doesn't go your way and just wait for it to go up again and then that's when you're going to sell.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: LongStand on August 20, 2021, 03:46:43 PM
Trading should not be done with emotions. Trading with emotions might lead to ignoring goals, stops, and other elements of our trading strategy. We can become overconfident, which can lead to poor trading and large losses. As a result of all of these moves, traders are less likely to stay in the market. We won't be able to tackle this problem by suppressing emotions.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: techearn17 on August 20, 2021, 07:58:05 PM
Don't forget always buy low sell high and don't try to reverse it unless you have a great strategy to still gain profit. Emotions is always present even in trading but learn to hold it and don't let your emotion ruin your trading strategy. Patience is an important ingredients in trading so that you can avoid to feel panic everytime market not goes well.

This is exactly where emotions come into play. I have done this process many times and it works 100% works We should never jump into the market. We have to be patient until the market is low then we have to buy. Haste always causes harm. the volatility of the crypto market is very fast. We can be good traders if we take care of these things.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: boyptc on August 21, 2021, 03:18:57 PM
Just be careful with your trading, just wait it out when the prices are going down. Remember that you can't lose your investments if you don't do spontaneous and emotion based decisions because it only makes you prone to losses. I mean if you trade, you can just park the coin there if it doesn't go your way and just wait for it to go up again and then that's when you're going to sell.
Paper loss is what they call it.

Despite not selling and by just looking at your portfolio and the market dips, you're at loss on it. And it's not that easy thing to manage our emotions.

Especially if there's a big money that's being involved or if your portfolio contains a lot.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Hobo66 on August 22, 2021, 06:24:37 PM
In crypto should not be trading on emotions and shiukd not  invest more than you can afford to lose, maybe take some profits and have a sit back no matter weither it goes up or down no amount of money is worth your mental health


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: sherenikaw on August 22, 2021, 10:27:17 PM
That's the importance of controlling emotions in trading because trading requires a strong mentality and high patience. Some traders suffer losses because they cannot control their emotions and finally give up on this ups and downs in the crypto market. therefore it is important to understand the crypto market and deepen knowledge about crypto so that we avoid things that are detrimental. selling an asset and giving up at a low price is suicide which will inevitably lead to heavy losses. so we are smart ourselves in making decisions in trading, whether to give up or keep trying our best to make a profit.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Rexler on August 23, 2021, 10:00:24 PM
2. Buying alts when the markets in general isn't necessarily a bad thing when talking about trading, because buying at rising prices with high volumes is a thing that could be taken advantage of.
Yea it's true buying when price is rising isn't a bad idea because there would be enough trading volume and also high volatility which could fetch enough profits, but when this becomes bad is when traders or investors buys at the top which is really very risky because there could be a big correction which will cause loss to people who bought at this point, and this is where people really get emotional, because not everyone can bear the pain of seeing his capital depreciating.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Qikiye on August 23, 2021, 11:09:43 PM
You can never make a profit if you place emotion in cryptocurrency. Never mix emotions with trading, you will never sell in the market loss due to emotions after investing. It does The amount of loss will be more than your profit.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: carlfebz2 on August 23, 2021, 11:37:35 PM
You can never make a profit if you place emotion in cryptocurrency. Never mix emotions with trading, you will never sell in the market loss due to emotions after investing. It does The amount of loss will be more than your profit.
Easy to say but really hard to control off when it you are already into this market on which it isnt really that easy to control of emotions and since we are just human beings then we are really prone to that because we

do value money that much and we dont like for it to lose so its just normal to have those reactions but the thing here is that you do know how to handle up those burst of emotions and to think off clearly and properly

on what are the things you should gonna do and this is where people do really differs on which you can spot out which one is experienced and which one is a total noob.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: elisabetheva on August 25, 2021, 06:23:13 AM
In crypto should not be trading on emotions and shiukd not  invest more than you can afford to lose, maybe take some profits and have a sit back no matter weither it goes up or down no amount of money is worth your mental health
indeed sometimes not all can reduce what is done after experiencing things that are not in accordance with what is desired, especially in terms of losing profits that are already in sight. then emotions sometimes come out immediately and only realize after thinking that it does not also solve the problem that has already occurred. it's better to fix yourself not to happen again and with all good analysis and patience.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: XUNing on August 25, 2021, 07:01:09 AM
Greed and emotion have a great negative impact on trading, and panic trading will inevitably bring economic losses.
When trading is affected by market sentiment, it is easy to blindly buy and sell, which will bring more risks and losses. To learn more encryption knowledge and analyze market trends to formulate appropriate strategies before trading, which can minimize risk losses.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: xwshamim on August 25, 2021, 04:32:45 PM
Everyone says this but people cant control  their emotions when the see their money  increased by 10-15x they thinks that will increase more and more. And at the end they loses everything.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: thet on August 25, 2021, 10:24:45 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.


Very true, emotions can affect your trading decisions. Most of the time I am doing the wrong decisions because I am expecting more.

It is important in trading to learn first and check the chart and not to simply believe in yourself and follow your emotions.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Botnake on August 25, 2021, 11:36:17 PM
In fact, the boss of emotion is not right to do anything. Especially in the case of trading, never go to trade with passion. When trading you need to think carefully and the coin that you will trade is Need to do a good analysis. Then you will be trading. I repeat, you must be well acquainted with trading. You should never trade with passion.Then you will see that at one time you have fallen into huge loss. And will not be able to recover it later.
Passion is very important in trading. Passion is totally different from emotions.
The cause of huge losses was because we are incapable of doing it but if you have passion in your heart, you can do it willingly. Like to do a search, market analysis, TA's, everything needs hard work, and that passion comes to help and boost you up.

But that EMOTION is the biggest enemy, it was the common reason for failure but can't make this to disappear as we are a human beings, only we need to control it.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on August 26, 2021, 12:18:04 AM
Greed and emotion have a great negative impact on trading, and panic trading will inevitably bring economic losses.
When trading is affected by market sentiment, it is easy to blindly buy and sell, which will bring more risks and losses. To learn more encryption knowledge and analyze market trends to formulate appropriate strategies before trading, which can minimize risk losses.

Greed is undoubtedly one of the feelings that you can have at any time, the important thing about these feelings is not to get carried away to make business decisions.

One of the most famous operators of the years 1800-1900, called Jesse Livermore, he recommended not to see the news at the time of doing the analyzes, in retrospect it is similar to our times, because social networks, news are the order of the day , and many people operate based on the news and emotions expressed, either by influencers and others such as what they call the FOMO, that is why emotions in trading are not recommended to be operated by emotions or other than effects news or influencers as it becomes a high risk trade.

In this recent article, they speak highly of the FOMO:El Salvador’s Bitcoin adoption may transform remittances in Central America
Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/el-salvador-s-bitcoin-adoption-may-transform-remittance-in-central-america (https://cointelegraph.com/news/el-salvador-s-bitcoin-adoption-may-transform-remittance-in-central-america)


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Marvell1 on August 26, 2021, 03:56:45 AM
In my opinion, emotions make up 80% of trading. We will not succeed if we do not control our own emotions. Most traders lose even though they have good trading knowledge and skills but most of them cannot control their emotions when trading. When they see their money growing rapidly, greed arises they can't stop until it runs out.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: checkmatesir on August 26, 2021, 09:20:46 AM
You are discussing a quite important topic, whenever i see the traders investing in coins like they are going to rise, i scrambled a little that how can they know that the coin will rise and even not giving them loss. Even in trading we can just assume and can't with with full consistency the coins we bought will rise.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: GranitXhaka98 on August 27, 2021, 09:56:44 AM
For you to be as successful as possible in the crypto space you should never trade your emotions in the market trends. When emotions are traded first it makes you so skeptical about the trading strategies you are using. You need to always stick to your trading strategies and never get too emotional because it always keeps on making your loss greater than your wins . so never trade your emotions in the crypto space.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: ItsCrafty on August 27, 2021, 10:16:28 AM
In trading as i can say that everything can happen, even with the top traders too, although they had well experienced too but when market is going down, no one can save himself and no one has any idea. With adding that in trading emotions should be kept a side because it will ruin your whole trading as well as your health.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Benefactor on August 27, 2021, 03:32:40 PM
You can never be fruitful in case you are too energetic with it and settling on those sentiments. At the point when individuals do that, that is a direct result of the betting nature that we have and not the judicious one. The feelings is not really removed from exchanging, even after you think you have control of it yet you see you actually have that around and it makes for voracity regardless of how little it is.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: conected on August 27, 2021, 05:29:30 PM
In trading as i can say that everything can happen, even with the top traders too, although they had well experienced too but when market is going down, no one can save himself and no one has any idea. With adding that in trading emotions should be kept a side because it will ruin your whole trading as well as your health.
- Refuse to keep emotions aside, I want people to abrade these feelings, abrading them intensely until it becomes something very transparent and no longer able to break the cell we created, I'm not saying traders need to be a person without emotions, I just want us to have the best antibodies to the emotion and not give it the slightest chance to reverse. Many traders just chant the old mantras of getting rid of emotions and keeping a cold face in front of the market while the source of the disaster is still burning in their bodies.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: syedakhlaque on September 08, 2021, 03:39:41 AM
Trading is a trade that demands intellectual activity. It should be free from all kinds of emotions and zest. With emotional trading, there will be losses and damages that creates depression and hopeless condition. This all discourages a person and under these circumstances, he does not make a good decision. It leads him to a decaying condition. So this all should not happen and there should not be emotion. The flash of hope never come to end. We want to survive in cryptocurrency trading & in all trade of life.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: rodskee on September 08, 2021, 08:25:45 AM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
That's why it is always best to invest when the market is falling , many are afraid seeing the value continuously falling but if we analyze the situation this is always a win win solution and not to lose.

you might see losing in several days or weeks but when the market starts climbing then that is the harvesting time in which you must collect the prize of your waiting.

but of course always value the idea of putting money in trusted and stablished coins and not to shitcoins to try your luck.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: imstillthebest on September 08, 2021, 09:26:45 AM
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When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio.

why your feeling harmed when you already invested ? its because you only invest small ? no problem , increase it next time .
 if you feel that stocks are profitable to you than in crypto , you should prioritize it  .
 we dont loose our portfolio as long as you never sold all but diversifying from one type of investment to the other may also work great .


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: checkmatesir on September 08, 2021, 02:58:39 PM
You are right but the crypto trading is always volatile which we know really well and no one cay say about the market position that at which position which coin will rise and which coin will go down. So, the main thing is coin analyzing that we should analyze the coin first before trading and then enter into it.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: livingfree on September 08, 2021, 10:48:48 PM
In addition to using mature analysis and trading strategies, emotional control is also very necessary when we are trading or investing, without being able to control emotions usually traders will trade aggressively so that it will damage the strategies we have prepared and eventually have to accept losses.
Emotion startles FOMO, panic selling and uncertain holding.

That's why if you're too emotional, you better be ready to control those as you invest. Because when you invest, you're only thinking about the profit but not the maturity and progress of your investment.

So watch for that carefully.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: iv4n on September 09, 2021, 08:48:02 AM
But the thing is that you can't remove emotions completely! We all learn to control them, but there are moments when feelings simply overtake us, usually when excitement reaches some peak! That happens in gambling as well... and in those moments when we are ready to push the limits is the real gambling! And in my experience, in those moments balance can go to zero or you will make a lot of money!


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: akar87 on September 09, 2021, 01:00:06 PM
Become investor is very worth than to bet trader and can't control the emotion, I think many trader faced panic moment right now that selling or buying coin, why not waiting great chance for buying coin without panic from the other people. Almost trader when some one give recommended to buy coin panic although coins have raise higher price, why not waiting when price dump to get much profit.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: jaberwock on September 09, 2021, 02:32:06 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
That's why it is always best to invest when the market is falling, many are afraid seeing the value continuously falling but if we analyze the situation this is always a win win solution and not to lose.

you might see losing in several days or weeks but when the market starts climbing then that is the harvesting time in which you must collect the prize of your waiting.

but of course always value the idea of putting money in trusted and stablished coins and not to shitcoins to try your luck.
That is why people keep saying things like "buy low, sell high" or "be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when they are greedy", because they all mean the same thing. As long as prices crash and you end up buying then you will be doing fine, that is how people make a profit.

Warren Buffet famously saved a whole bank, literally a whole bank, during 2008 crash period and required them to pay him so much more in return but in the long term, it was something like he would pay a billion dollars right away, but would get hundred million per year for decades, which he would be dead of course but his company would be going on. Basically, keep on investing when it crashes, because that is the moment you know you could make profit, there is no profit when it peaks, it is the bottoms that you would make a profit from and we are at that level right now.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: olib123 on September 19, 2021, 06:41:45 AM
Emotions should never be traded because while trading feeling greedy can cause us to ignore targets, stops, and other parts of our trading plan.It losses our money because we become overconfident which can also cause huge losses.We can't solve this by avoiding emotions so firstly Knowing your emotions how to control emotions while trading can prove to be the difference between success get profit.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: CDC AP on September 19, 2021, 12:12:42 PM
A lot of people still fall prey to their emotions when it comes to investing and trading. Take for example Axie Infinity and its SLP token ATH in July. A lot of people impulsively bought axies back then and ended up seeing the rewards greatly diminished after the price of the SLP token normalized. Some friends also got burned, though they would still be able to recoup the losses if they stay patient and not try to sell what they have right now.

Had they studied the market properly and realized that the hype is just temporary, they wouldn’t get anxious if they can still get back the money they invested for several teams. It is what it is though, and there’s really no changing things that happened except for learning from those past lessons.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: otundebis on September 19, 2021, 12:39:50 PM
Trading required good technical analysis,  fundermental reasons should be the basis for measuring the amount that should be traded and for how long! Trading emotionally is synonymous with newbies and those that do not know how to manage risk and those who have not read,  ask questions and come to logical conclusions. FOMO could be very strong,  but rules of trading must be followed!


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: riso2015 on September 19, 2021, 01:07:37 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
This is because the mindset is not right. They buy when the price goes down, afraid of going down. But when the price goes up they buy . This is actually if it is not entered correctly you will experience a loss . This is why many people often fail in investing. Especially if it's a very risky short-term investment.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: nur rochid on September 19, 2021, 02:04:48 PM
Trading required good technical analysis,  fundermental reasons should be the basis for measuring the amount that should be traded and for how long! Trading emotionally is synonymous with newbies and those that do not know how to manage risk and those who have not read,  ask questions and come to logical conclusions. FOMO could be very strong,  but rules of trading must be followed!
The fomo and fud phenomena are very emotionally draining for us, the least we can predict is market events when we have opened a transaction. Of course, when the trip suddenly happens for example, for example, we must be guided by the initial analysis, and must dare to make decisions. but sometimes there is a conditional trader, so he changes the strategy halfway. of all of that, of course, a trader's confidence in responding to the market is needed, of course they must take into account the risk beforehand


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: doremonchina on September 19, 2021, 02:31:54 PM
if you trade in emotions then you never be in profits becouse trade with emotions is main couse of loss if you want to make profit in trading then you can avoid emotions and trade carefully with emotions a man want to make more money he start overtrading traders not protect there investments and fails to make profit traders can also avoid overtrading
many time traders want trade in high risk to make good profit but he fails go in loss
traders need to learn about high risk management skils and focus on trading


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: nurilham on September 19, 2021, 02:35:47 PM
That's why before trading, it's better to prepare mentally so that we don't get carried away by emotions. The ups and downs of the crypto market have caused a lot of people to mess up so they sell their assets at random. if it continues to happen when the crypto market is falling then it will certainly worsen the market price. keep control of our emotions and don't be provoked to get big results. play carefully and thoroughly so that we can get the profit as expected.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Rajamuda on September 19, 2021, 04:27:36 PM
By getting used to researching the crypto market... I'm sure over time it will continue to have more efficient steps, because of course with more experience, it can encourage further trading efforts so that can make a profit. But it's a different matter if we can't regulate our emotions and don't have enough patience, it will actually have a negative impact.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: ZaraCB on September 19, 2021, 05:23:00 PM
This is the most common way for a new trader to lose money. This is especially the case for those who trade only on the basis of emotions without research. The price of any coin can drop at any time. If the price drops, you should wait a while without selling the coin. Most coins regain their price.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: livingfree on September 19, 2021, 09:19:26 PM
This is the most common way for a new trader to lose money. This is especially the case for those who trade only on the basis of emotions without research. The price of any coin can drop at any time.
Many have been there and I also experienced that.

Trading with emotions, those emotions that are going to make you out of your mind and will result you to mistakes when you trade.

If the price drops, you should wait a while without selling the coin. Most coins regain their price.
But many lose their patience and just buy at the top and think very optimistic about continuous pump.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Slow death on September 19, 2021, 09:57:35 PM
This is the most common way for a new trader to lose money. This is especially the case for those who trade only on the basis of emotions without research.

It's almost impossible to trade without putting emotions, people may think that emotions are a problem, but if you don't have emotions the person becomes a robot, in certain cases fear makes us not get into situations where we could lose a lot of money. if used well, fear can be very useful.

The price of any coin can drop at any time. If the price drops, you should wait a while without selling the coin. Most coins regain their price.

almost all altcoins still haven't recovered from their ATH in relation to dollar and in relation to bitcoin, many people are still with a lot of losses



Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Om.monata on September 19, 2021, 10:54:40 PM
Emotional is everyone's problem.  Even professional traders sometimes forget emotions.  must really maintain emotional stability in trading and maintain trading patterns correctly.  so that it can run well without a high risk of experiencing emotional losses.  for the market, this condition may have to be observed by looking at the conditions of the time, when to buy, sell and hold.  This can't be wrong


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Maslate on September 19, 2021, 11:06:50 PM
Emotional is everyone's problem.  Even professional traders sometimes forget emotions.  must really maintain emotional stability in trading and maintain trading patterns correctly.  so that it can run well without a high risk of experiencing emotional losses.  for the market, this condition may have to be observed by looking at the conditions of the time, when to buy, sell and hold.  This can't be wrong
We can't rid of it as we are human beings but must have to control it otherwise, this could be the reason for our failure. This is really a big challenge for everyone but if you do this for a reason, I don't think it is really hard to change. We can do this for sure, nothing is impossible if we wanted to do so. But if you think NOT in the very beginning, that surely it never helps and better not to try trading as it certainly gives you a problem one day.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: milewilda on September 19, 2021, 11:31:51 PM
Emotional is everyone's problem.  Even professional traders sometimes forget emotions.  must really maintain emotional stability in trading and maintain trading patterns correctly.  so that it can run well without a high risk of experiencing emotional losses.  for the market, this condition may have to be observed by looking at the conditions of the time, when to buy, sell and hold.  This can't be wrong
We can't rid of it as we are human beings but must have to control it otherwise, this could be the reason for our failure. This is really a big challenge for everyone but if you do this for a reason, I don't think it is really hard to change. We can do this for sure, nothing is impossible if we wanted to do so. But if you think NOT in the very beginning, that surely it never helps and better not to try trading as it certainly gives you a problem one day.
This is unavoidable because we are just humans and we do value that much our money which its understandable that whenever we do lost up money then reactions would be there.Even lets say that
we are already veterans or old traders but still we could really be affected on the times we do lost but somehow having experience could really give that advantage compared to those
who are just starting up.You should really be wise and be good to hold your emotions on different situations.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Yamifoud on September 20, 2021, 06:05:22 AM
Emotional is everyone's problem.  Even professional traders sometimes forget emotions.  must really maintain emotional stability in trading and maintain trading patterns correctly.  so that it can run well without a high risk of experiencing emotional losses.  for the market, this condition may have to be observed by looking at the conditions of the time, when to buy, sell and hold.  This can't be wrong
We can't rid of it as we are human beings but must have to control it otherwise, this could be the reason for our failure. This is really a big challenge for everyone but if you do this for a reason, I don't think it is really hard to change. We can do this for sure, nothing is impossible if we wanted to do so. But if you think NOT in the very beginning, that surely it never helps and better not to try trading as it certainly gives you a problem one day.
This is unavoidable because we are just humans and we do value that much our money which its understandable that whenever we do lost up money then reactions would be there.Even lets say that
we are already veterans or old traders but still we could really be affected on the times we do lost but somehow having experience could really give that advantage compared to those
who are just starting up.You should really be wise and be good to hold your emotions on different situations.
Emotions sometimes help us but in trading, that could be different.
Panic, worried, excited (rushing on the market), all of these things would lead us to losses. These are common to newbies, I can remember myself before but as we got some experience, we are also able to change it gradually until we are getting immune to such things. We do understand the situation but we don't let our emotions become the main reason why we suffer losses but instead use this to become stronger.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: YOSHIE on September 20, 2021, 01:02:49 PM
Never trade based on your emotions.
Indeed Emotions can destroy all affairs, trades, investments, and other things, be it in the real world or the internet, emotions and trading must be kept away, if combined trading in the crypto market you can be destroyed.

Calculate carefully before investing.
that's for sure, calculations, thoroughness, analysis, monitoring are always the same, indeed investment can make someone successful if the calculation is right and vice versa.

Calculations don't only happen in investing in the crypto world, doing things in the real world, if you don't do the right calculations, everything falls apart.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Luke Briggs on September 25, 2021, 08:57:55 AM
When I first learned to invest, I might be emotionally invested if I make a mistake. I can't control my emotions because I lost money in cryptocurrency. Later, I slowly learned from the failure, and I can make a good investment. There will be times when money is lost, but I can control my emotions well, and my patience has gradually improved.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: arbifahrozy on September 25, 2021, 03:32:16 PM
A better post for the beginners as well as for those who are old in trading, the emotions in trading destroy a person whole thinking and if he is dealing well even, when he comes through a loss, then i don't even think that the trader should leave his position after getting into loss. As a result he should have to follow new strategy in trading.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Alisha FR on September 25, 2021, 07:18:08 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
If this is the way of trading it will never produce good results and I believe it has absolutely no skills in trading. Buy and sell based on analysis with trading knowledge. Everyone jumps into crypto with the aim of profit for financial freedom, what is invested is money from hard work not free money. Mental stability, managing emotions well and knowledge in trading are important factors for getting into crypto.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: ReiMomo on September 25, 2021, 07:24:55 PM
A better post for the beginners as well as for those who are old in trading, the emotions in trading destroy a person whole thinking and if he is dealing well even, when he comes through a loss, then i don't even think that the trader should leave his position after getting into loss. As a result he should have to follow new strategy in trading.

Yah. Emotion is an enemy of traders I would say. It would lead you to loss often. Beginners, we always get exited when we see our friends getting profits from one of the crypto coins from trading and decide to just invest on the same coin without analyzing it. Then when the value goes down, we panic and sell at loss. So emotion leads the one instead of knowledge guiding the one to act. Crypto market is volatile. Have patience. Learn indications and etc.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: kramchers on September 26, 2021, 07:48:24 AM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

Buying altcoins in the market is one of the good way to earn here in the cryptocurrency. Whether it is shit or not it can still able to give us a profit depending on how we handle and how we understand the trading. So, even when the market falls if you are well verse about the crypto space you will remain the game of crypto trading as your own business for sure. Therefore, if you are emotional type of person I could tell that you are not suitable to stay here in the cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Aurorra on September 26, 2021, 09:17:47 AM
Many people lose money in trading because they are affected by market sentiment. When currency prices fall, novice traders will panic and make mistakes in selling, resulting in economic losses.

Trading must have a sufficient knowledge base, control emotions, analyze the market with a calm and clear mind, and find a suitable trading strategy that can make a profit.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: lovemycar on September 26, 2021, 09:27:08 AM
What a naive idea, once your trading is controlled by emotions, congratulations, you are getting closer and closer to bankruptcy. If you can't control your emotions, sorry, for your own safety, please leave the crypto world.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Fatunad on September 26, 2021, 09:40:09 AM
What a naive idea, once your trading is controlled by emotions, congratulations, you are getting closer and closer to bankruptcy. If you can't control your emotions, sorry, for your own safety, please leave the crypto world.
But this is something that you cant control it directly specially when you are just starting but if you dont see any progress or changes then thats the time that you should consider on quitting but if you do see some
changes or progress when it comes to handling your emotion then this is something that shows that you are really improving.We cant really able to get it directly because we are just humans
and its normal that we would really be having these kind of reactions because we do value money much but once you do already have some good grasp on this market or this investment
then you wont really be seeing this as a major problem anymore.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: boyptc on September 26, 2021, 11:51:38 AM
What a naive idea, once your trading is controlled by emotions, congratulations, you are getting closer and closer to bankruptcy. If you can't control your emotions, sorry, for your own safety, please leave the crypto world.
They'll learn to control that eventually.

It's always the first thing that gets them when they're new to the market. Their emotions will teach them how to survive this long on this truly volatile market.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: rahmatullah9305 on September 26, 2021, 12:34:25 PM
That's why before trading, it's better to prepare mentally so that we don't get carried away by emotions. The ups and downs of the crypto market have caused a lot of people to mess up so they sell their assets at random. if it continues to happen when the crypto market is falling then it will certainly worsen the market price. keep control of our emotions and don't be provoked to get big results. play carefully and thoroughly so that we can get the profit as expected.
That's right, and in order to make a trade, it's very important to hold it long term. No matter how much the price drops, if the Altcoin we invest in is a Potential Altcoin, I am sure that in the future the price will recover. Anyone should have other money to meet their daily needs before deciding to invest.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Hobo66 on September 26, 2021, 02:20:56 PM
You people are aware of the fact that trading needs self-restraint. Without a capability of tolerance, one cannot get advantages from trading. Some people just buy and sell coins based on feelings and emotions. It is very risky. To be successful in crypto tradings, users must overcome their emotions. They should have gain knowledge for trading and should learn trading strategies.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: sarmrakib on September 26, 2021, 02:25:03 PM
That's why before trading, it's better to prepare mentally so that we don't get carried away by emotions. The ups and downs of the crypto market have caused a lot of people to mess up so they sell their assets at random. if it continues to happen when the crypto market is falling then it will certainly worsen the market price. keep control of our emotions and don't be provoked to get big results. play carefully and thoroughly so that we can get the profit as expected.
That's right, and in order to make a trade, it's very important to hold it long term. No matter how much the price drops, if the Altcoin we invest in is a Potential Altcoin, I am sure that in the future the price will recover. Anyone should have other money to meet their daily needs before deciding to invest.
I think you guys might forget about the day-trading just were talking about long term .However in every types of trading which you are following you need to know control your emotion .It is the reason for loosing the fund mostly .You always need to trade accordingly your strategy and make level where actually really wanna exit .If you think more after entering your trade you may loose your trade .This is the emotion actually how it play with us .


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Phrahm on October 04, 2021, 10:52:21 AM
That's why before trading, it's better to prepare mentally so that we don't get carried away by emotions. The ups and downs of the crypto market have caused a lot of people to mess up so they sell their assets at random. if it continues to happen when the crypto market is falling then it will certainly worsen the market price. keep control of our emotions and don't be provoked to get big results. play carefully and thoroughly so that we can get the profit as expected.
That's right, and in order to make a trade, it's very important to hold it long term. No matter how much the price drops, if the Altcoin we invest in is a Potential Altcoin, I am sure that in the future the price will recover. Anyone should have other money to meet their daily needs before deciding to invest.
I think you guys might forget about the day-trading just were talking about long term .However in every types of trading which you are following you need to know control your emotion .It is the reason for loosing the fund mostly .You always need to trade accordingly your strategy and make level where actually really wanna exit .If you think more after entering your trade you may loose your trade .This is the emotion actually how it play with us .

I completely agree with you, no matter what trading style you choose, emotions will always play a certain role.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: otundebis on October 04, 2021, 08:31:13 PM
As long as you have blood in your being,  from time to,  traders still trade emotion in the market.  I think mastering emotion before,  during and after reading activities come with experience and self discipline.  If you as o trader can not hold the line of your logic against the flood of your emotions,  don't give up,  you will master your emotions very soon as you trade regularly!


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: BruceLee98 on October 05, 2021, 10:07:45 AM
Absolutely right. Do not trade or put your emotions first in the market. We are all humans and obviously emotions are inherent so the best way is to learn how to manage your emotions when the market is against your analysis. But always remember that immediately you start to trade your emotions first, things starts to look frustrating for you so its always advisable to learn and master how to manage your emotions while trading.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Anguwa on October 06, 2021, 07:52:54 PM
This is indeed a very good advice and an idea mostly to beginners in bitcoin and crypto trading in general. As most of the beginners will not even follow dew process by trying to learn something about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general, they just Starr trading based on emotions and it end up failing.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: dunfida on October 06, 2021, 07:58:27 PM
That's why before trading, it's better to prepare mentally so that we don't get carried away by emotions. The ups and downs of the crypto market have caused a lot of people to mess up so they sell their assets at random. if it continues to happen when the crypto market is falling then it will certainly worsen the market price. keep control of our emotions and don't be provoked to get big results. play carefully and thoroughly so that we can get the profit as expected.
That's right, and in order to make a trade, it's very important to hold it long term. No matter how much the price drops, if the Altcoin we invest in is a Potential Altcoin, I am sure that in the future the price will recover. Anyone should have other money to meet their daily needs before deciding to invest.
I think you guys might forget about the day-trading just were talking about long term .However in every types of trading which you are following you need to know control your emotion .It is the reason for loosing the fund mostly .You always need to trade accordingly your strategy and make level where actually really wanna exit .If you think more after entering your trade you may loose your trade .This is the emotion actually how it play with us .

I completely agree with you, no matter what trading style you choose, emotions will always play a certain role.
Emotions could neither give out some positive or negative effect because we cant really just say that it isnt really making out some positive effect too because there are instances that we do follow up our own instincts or emotions on times that we are really on a hard situation whether you should hold or sell.

There are actually some good calls that you do able to get out or get in on the right time which do ends up for you to be profitable or had really cut lose in a good way.

But overall aspect then emotion is something that should really be need to be controlled upon because if you dont then expect the possible mess up.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: lepbagong on October 07, 2021, 10:03:40 PM
That's why before trading, it's better to prepare mentally so that we don't get carried away by emotions. The ups and downs of the crypto market have caused a lot of people to mess up so they sell their assets at random. if it continues to happen when the crypto market is falling then it will certainly worsen the market price. keep control of our emotions and don't be provoked to get big results. play carefully and thoroughly so that we can get the profit as expected.
only those who are experienced in trading will be able to be able to, as you say, "prepare mentally and not get carried away by emotions". Experienced people are able to put themselves in controllable situations, even if they experience bad things. but do not underestimate the new people in trading, that they are also capable of doing that. in the end it all also depends on the situation that can make everything change not according to expectations.

The crypto market is indeed unstable, I agree, that's why we are required to be able to anticipate and analyze well, so that what we will do is according to what we want. To get the right profit, of course you need patience and not to be greedy, if it's time to let go and it's in accordance with what we want, it's good to do it. waiting to find more can certainly make things the opposite of reality.

That's right, and in order to make a trade, it's very important to hold it long term. No matter how much the price drops, if the Altcoin we invest in is a Potential Altcoin, I am sure that in the future the price will recover. Anyone should have other money to meet their daily needs before deciding to invest.
holding on for the long term is not the best alternative either, we have to look at the situation and what we hold on to for the long term. if it's bitcoin and ethereum, I really agree because they can and it's very certain that in the future the price will increase.
but not for other altcoins because the price may drop in the future, and it may even no longer exist on the stock market.

Potential altcoins, obviously and I agree if you want to invest in the future but don't take too long either, always see what happens at CMC, whether the movement chart or market capitalization is still good. Of course, if it's still good, we can always make it an investment.

Of course, it is true that investment clearly requires funds, if possible, funds that are not used so that they can be more focused and not disturbed by needs. which will result in us being tempted to let go because the need must be a priority.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Shasha80 on October 07, 2021, 10:35:23 PM
Absolutely right. Do not trade or put your emotions first in the market. We are all humans and obviously emotions are inherent so the best way is to learn how to manage your emotions when the market is against your analysis. But always remember that immediately you start to trade your emotions first, things starts to look frustrating for you so its always advisable to learn and master how to manage your emotions while trading.

Controlling emotions is very important when we are trading, because in making decisions in trading, it should not involve emotions. Otherwise
the decisions we will take will be wrong and we will end up losing a lot of money when trading. Although I admit that as humans it is very difficult to
control our emotions, so it is very natural that we find more people who fail when trading than people who get rich from trading. But if we have
strong intentions and regularly train to control our emotions, I'm sure slowly we can start trading with controlled emotions. Sometimes it takes quite
a long time, so that we are trained to control our emotions when trading, indeed success is not instant.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: bhooscream on October 07, 2021, 10:38:41 PM
Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
I agree with this. Trading by emotions will lead to the loss only. Better to be careful and control ourselves from buying based on emotion or panicking. There are already many people who experienced bad stories because they cannot control their emotions, just invest or trade on a panicking or emotional basis. At the end of the day, they lose huge money and leave crypto market with a bad ending.

Well, calculating or analyzing everything before buying, is a must. This plays a big role to determine the chances for profits and security in trading/investing.



Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Lordhermes on October 09, 2021, 04:28:33 AM
It should be known by every trader,that trading is a game of risk,so putting your emotions in trading will cause emotional trauma which will damage your health.
Trading should be done with the mindset of,what ever happens is accepted.When one gets this type of mindset,  losing will never cause so much pain,and if you notice that your heart is too delicate and you are ways too emotional,I think trading is not good for you.
It is for the hard hearted,the ones that are emotionless and the ones that are never scared of losing.
To me,losing is an experience,when I lose,I learn from the mistake I made that makes me loose,and by so doing,I don't see the reason why I should cry when I lose money.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: King Raymond on October 31, 2021, 08:17:44 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

You made real good points here. But feeling relaxed when the market is going down is not always the right move. You could lose a lot of your investments which may cripple you from moving to better coins.
Diversifying your portfolio will keep you on the safe side when dips happen


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: andriarto on November 01, 2021, 01:44:05 AM
Everyone knows that for good trading you should control your emotions. Just because emotions are not good thing and it cause numbers of people to loss their money. Some people are in fear that the price will down more and more and due to this fear they sell at low price and loss their money. Emotions are very harmful. Sometimes an individual does not wait and their greed become a great cause of their loss in trading.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Fakhrulenclix on November 01, 2021, 02:41:59 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
Every human being has emotions that are very difficult to control, especially when you have made a mistake, of course, if you don't have a knowledge base, the next mistake will continue to happen.
What should be avoided in trading is greed, that is what destroys greed. it would be nice before jumping into trading, you should have basic knowledge of trading and also bring minimal capital at the beginning of trading to get experience, because the most important knowledge is your own experience, be it a bad experience or vice versa.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Alisha FR on November 02, 2021, 06:57:54 PM
Everyone knows that for good trading you should control your emotions. Just because emotions are not good thing and it cause numbers of people to loss their money. Some people are in fear that the price will down more and more and due to this fear they sell at low price and loss their money. Emotions are very harmful. Sometimes an individual does not wait and their greed become a great cause of their loss in trading.

True, emotions will only end in regret. With very unpredictable market conditions, making traders in a dilemma and difficult to make decisions, so knowledge and experience are needed to avoid making wrong decisions when trading in the next trade. As you said about greed, greed will ultimately mess with emotions. So it is very important to set targets in trading.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: dunfida on November 02, 2021, 09:15:34 PM
Everyone knows that for good trading you should control your emotions. Just because emotions are not good thing and it cause numbers of people to loss their money. Some people are in fear that the price will down more and more and due to this fear they sell at low price and loss their money. Emotions are very harmful. Sometimes an individual does not wait and their greed become a great cause of their loss in trading.

True, emotions will only end in regret. With very unpredictable market conditions, making traders in a dilemma and difficult to make decisions, so knowledge and experience are needed to avoid making wrong decisions when trading in the next trade. As you said about greed, greed will ultimately mess with emotions. So it is very important to set targets in trading.
But there are some times on which our emotion do really save our ass up but those are on close call situations on where you do really able to make right decisions on not to make any steps further or did really take out

profits just because of some intuition or hunch but doesnt mean that even it turns out to be good you would be basically be following this kind of behavior on next trades you would done because

having these close calls isnt gonna work on next time most of the time so you should be prepared or aware on this thing.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: blackened515 on November 02, 2021, 11:16:26 PM
One major problem many traders face is fear. They are always afraid when the price start going down and they basically sell everything and end up losing. They lack confidence and patience. Just as the OP said, before getting into the market, you should firstly study the coin you probably want to invest in carefully, if possible make research on it. Then if after Investing and the price start falling, you don't have to panic. Just be patience, and give it some time, it will rise back. As a trader, you don't have to be too emotional. Remember, Crypto Investment is for the strong hearted.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: checkmatesir on November 03, 2021, 12:02:35 PM
Trading doesn't work on emotions I think, it is completely a different type of business in which keep calm is the only key to get into more profit, some traders just losses their money due to being so much desperate, which is a sign of loss in trading, getting into desperacy leads traders to impatience which results in loss during trading.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Xampeuu on November 04, 2021, 04:38:22 AM
Trading doesn't work on emotions I think, it is completely a different type of business in which keep calm is the only key to get into more profit, some traders just losses their money due to being so much desperate, which is a sign of loss in trading, getting into desperacy leads traders to impatience which results in loss during trading.
on the other hand, they do not have enough knowledge in cryptocurrency trading, and tend not to have enough experience, so panic sells are prone to happen to them. greed often arises and makes the mind confused so that the planned strategy is not carried out properly. therefore it is necessary to learn and process in this business


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: suryogandul on November 04, 2021, 08:23:19 AM
beginners usually lack in emotional analysis, they are prone to FOMO and cause panic sell. even though if you are patient I think it will be easier to get the best position than to be stuck in FOMO and result in big losses in trading. in this case we must really learn about emotions and combine our thoughts for something better in the future


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: btc78 on November 04, 2021, 10:13:25 AM
beginners usually lack in emotional analysis, they are prone to FOMO and cause panic sell. even though if you are patient I think it will be easier to get the best position than to be stuck in FOMO and result in big losses in trading. in this case we must really learn about emotions and combine our thoughts for something better in the future
We will learn from our mistakes and this means it is normal to commit mistakes for a while and use that as tools to not fall into the same false decision again.
there are many option to make money in crypto and not only in trading , if you are emotional attached then never enter trading instead put your funds in other way like skill offering or even Holding from the smallest coin to the largest.
small amount each wont hurt us that big and the opportunity is also high.
diversifying is the best tools if you cannot  get deeply in trading so Emotional or not? there is a place for everyone here.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Mubarrak95 on November 04, 2021, 12:54:23 PM
Trading doesn't work on emotions I think, it is completely a different type of business in which keep calm is the only key to get into more profit, some traders just losses their money due to being so much desperate, which is a sign of loss in trading, getting into desperacy leads traders to impatience which results in loss during trading.
If you're talking about those who lost out of desperation, I don't think this is possible. In fact, if there is despair with market conditions that are being dumped on a large scale, we even choose to trade or hold because we no longer care about market conditions. But if it's based on emotion, we're in a hurry because our minds get out of control and make decisions very quickly, despite the downsides.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Jazzi Mahesh on November 04, 2021, 06:37:18 PM
You cannot trade in Forex Trading while you have lost a lot and your mind is not in the correct place.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Quidat on November 04, 2021, 08:20:19 PM
You cannot trade in Forex Trading while you have lost a lot and your mind is not in the correct place.
We arent talking forex trading on here but well crypto trading  is no different.They do only differ with volatility but in overall aspect on which
factors needing for  you to be sustainable on trading field is really just the same.It would only depend on how you do apply it on different markets.Emotions does really give out big impact in towards trading or investment because this would really result into mistakes
since you wouldnt know on what you are doing.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Sihab76 on November 04, 2021, 11:38:41 PM
Trading in the true sense is a place where you can never reap any benefits with your emotions. Your emotions can cause a lot of problems for any particular reason. When it comes to trading, you must be emotionless and experienced. Inexperienced people can lose a lot of time when trading.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Lordhermes on November 05, 2021, 01:32:41 AM
Before trading,one needs to know the things involved in it,one needs to be aware of the risks involved in trading, one needs to remove emotions from it,because certainly,if your mind is wholely on the trading,there is every tendency that you will be emotionally disturbed,so therefore,trading seems like a game,you just play and get your mind off it.
Invest and bare in mind that you might either win or loose.
And when you loose,you don't need to worry too much,just re-strategise,research again,and try again,you might just be lucky.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Sayeds56 on November 05, 2021, 01:46:09 AM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

Impulsive or Emotional trading is worst thing in trading which eventually  causes huge losses. There are 3 thing very important to be successful trader.

1- Good skills to use Technical Indicators

2- Money management

3- Risk Management

When you take your long and short positions based on signals generated by Technical Indicators and following the basic Rules ( Size of trade & using stop loss)  of Money and Risk management , your most of trades end up in profit.



Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: LastKiss on November 05, 2021, 04:56:56 AM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

This thing mostly happened to new traders so it's wise to have some friends or experienced people to guide you to teach you especially about the strategy and your emotion. Many people will panic when the market bleed but if you experience enough to control your emotion it wont affect you since you have optimism in your mind. Do some research is very important before you begin trading to minimize your losses in the future.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on November 05, 2021, 10:43:52 AM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.
I've lost a pretty good amount of money through buying high and selling low, but this happened when I was still very new to crypto trading and investing.
Aside being scammed or rugged and other stuffs beyond the investors control, this kind of trading is another great way to loose money, and this is why this topic is very important for those just getting into crypto trading and investing, it's good for them to be aware of this so as to avoid making such a mistake.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Mauser on November 05, 2021, 11:56:41 AM
Trading in the true sense is a place where you can never reap any benefits with your emotions. Your emotions can cause a lot of problems for any particular reason. When it comes to trading, you must be emotionless and experienced. Inexperienced people can lose a lot of time when trading.

I agree with you, trading based on emotions usually comes from inexperience and only after some time and experience we learn to resist out emotions. Trading based on gut feelings might be going good in the beginning by eventually we will make the wrong decision. I remember when I first started trading that I had this feeling now would be the perfect time to buy, and once the price moved against me I still had the feeling of being right and should hold my position. In the end I just lost more money and if I had looked objectively at trade I would have probably sold earlier.
When it comes to trading there is no such thing as relying on our feelings, we need to do research and make a fundamental sound prediction without emotions. Because if we give in to our feelings we become dependent and could have problems long term. For example if we lose money we could become depressed and have trouble sleeping. Trading and emotions should be kept seperate for our own wellbeing.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Hobo66 on November 13, 2021, 06:40:28 PM
If you are unable to fulfil you profit objectives you should stop rushing and hold. Frustration and racing to achieve accomplishment can be a major hindrance to success. You may easily make money by regulating your emotions. Trading is risky, and there is no certainty of profit., so be calm. With the progression of time you will realize the rewards.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: chanler on November 13, 2021, 11:00:02 PM
the importance of controlling emotions when trading because it does have an impact on our own thinking. following emotions will only make our minds more chaotic and make us feel rushed to get what we want. Trading requires calm thought and also carefully in order that we are not wrong in selling or buying coins. if we continue to follow our own emotions, then we will not be able to trade in peace. when you fail, don't think too much about it, but get up and trade again with more caution.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: syedakhlaque on November 14, 2021, 05:31:21 PM
Trading is an art that should be free from all kinds of feelings and sentiments. Although complete control of feeling is not possible.
When due to some whale your trade goes under severe loss. This loss cannot be bearable but for a successful trader, it is essential to control his temperament and do what is better for the situation and show his patience. This very important element for a trader is that his mind should remain calm and peaceful in all situations of markets.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Ems. on November 14, 2021, 06:01:34 PM
Before comes to your planning,there's a times to realize not to hurry whatever you go through.To be successful noy easily to achieved,you need to know,what's door you enter and soon you must know  better what door you exit too,whatever happened you always ready ,either you lost or win ,and failed or unsuccess.Give time and not to be hurry whatever you planning so at the end,you will be earned and success.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: CDC AP on November 14, 2021, 06:48:27 PM
Seriously if you really want to trade with your emotions then you are ready to lose all your money, if you want to trade don't fall in love with any coin don't say because you like a particular coin then you will always trade it I believe if you are a trader you should always trade base on calculation and your a analysis and not your emotions.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 20, 2021, 11:37:32 PM
Seriously if you really want to trade with your emotions then you are ready to lose all your money, if you want to trade don't fall in love with any coin don't say because you like a particular coin then you will always trade it I believe if you are a trader you should always trade base on calculation and your a analysis and not your emotions.


I share your opinion and way of thinking, and although in some books by Jesse Livermore and Wyckoff they say that the market moves with the whales and most of it is also moved by people's emotions, and emotions are usually influenced by Those people who attract followers, including celebrities, can also move emotions through the news, many whales pay to generate news and make each news heard and see what they want for their benefit, in addition social networks are a powerful weapon to manipulate.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Rehan Zakir on November 21, 2021, 06:25:41 PM
You are saying right brother.  But sometimes I did not control my emotions when I trade in future market. Because it is a very risky market. And when your trade goes wrong. You are increasing your leverage it means that you are very near to your account liquidation.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: martina14 on November 26, 2021, 04:34:39 AM
Our emotions is part of the traders behavior, this would depend only on how their gonna handle it when they do something in the actual trade. If they will implement this matter in a wrong way, of course surely their assets might have a high chance to be loss in the end. But if they're gonna use in a proper way of manner as an individual trader I can assure you as well in the end they could get a nice earnings for sure in the future.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: globalpain on November 26, 2021, 06:47:52 AM
Our emotions is part of the traders behavior, this would depend only on how their gonna handle it when they do something in the actual trade. If they will implement this matter in a wrong way, of course surely their assets might have a high chance to be loss in the end. But if they're gonna use in a proper way of manner as an individual trader I can assure you as well in the end they could get a nice earnings for sure in the future.
That is why it is important to control emotions because when emotions are not controlled it will have a negative impact,
trading is not just about buying and selling,
analysis is also important in trading to make the right decision


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Zanab247 on November 26, 2021, 10:35:17 AM
Any trader that trade with emotions in the market, it hard for such traders to miss their blessings opportunity in the market. Emotions is part of the strategies investors used not to give up in trading despite the loss or gaining they are experiencing in the community. Many professional traders always obey their emotion when in comes to trading because through the feeling they are receiving from the market can easily make them to know if to buy coins and hold for future for profit making or sell coins to be part of the lucky customers in the market.
Those traders that don't involve emotion in their trading, find it difficult to make a good income from their trading in the market. Even though the price is still showing some signs to the investors by the way they behavior in the community.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 29, 2021, 12:46:19 AM
You are saying right brother.  But sometimes I did not control my emotions when I trade in future market. Because it is a very risky market. And when your trade goes wrong. You are increasing your leverage it means that you are very near to your account liquidation.

Honestly, I do not bet much with a market that is very unstable, and now with a leverage for me it represents a unique risk, which I still do not feel prepared to assume, the maximum I have risked in leverage is x10, and with adrenaline to full mode, however if I had a lot of money I would like to trade in the style of Jesse Livermore, which is applicable in BTC, it consists of betting in LONG and protecting that position with a leveraged Short, I think that that way I would greatly guarantee my profits, and it would also have the advantage that it would not leave the market, but the risk would always be there latent.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: horrifiedx1 on November 29, 2021, 06:27:07 AM
Our emotions is part of the traders behavior, this would depend only on how their gonna handle it when they do something in the actual trade. If they will implement this matter in a wrong way, of course surely their assets might have a high chance to be loss in the end. But if they're gonna use in a proper way of manner as an individual trader I can assure you as well in the end they could get a nice earnings for sure in the future.
That is why it is important to control emotions because when emotions are not controlled it will have a negative impact,
trading is not just about buying and selling,
analysis is also important in trading to make the right decision
if we can't control our emotions, then it will affect our clear thinking chaos so that we will always make mistakes in taking action. therefore psychology plays a major role in determining each trade


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Rufsilf on November 30, 2021, 11:50:15 AM
Emotions for a trader really play a very important role. I realized this even when I was working on a demo account with a broker Amarkets. Even then, I concluded that emotions may not have a very positive effect on the result of a trader's work.
It's because emotions can be harmful to you and worse it may cloud your decisions at some point in life especially if it's an important matter. So, it's better to have a goal and correct method when investing to maintain focus and remain calm if the market is starting to deviate to your plan. Always have a plan B if everything starts to get worse.
And being in a calm state makes your worries fade help you decide which is a correct move and that's how you make profits. Instead of panicking when market is diping and invest again when it's recovering, always spot the situation and make an advantage out of it.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: doremonchina on December 01, 2021, 02:35:08 PM
Exchanging the financial exchange requires long stretches of training and intensive comprehension of market elements to expand gains. In contrast to contributing where the holding time frame is long exchanging includes incessant purchasing and selling of protections.
Among the few things that you ought not do while exchanging is to exchange under feelings. Passionate exchanging has a few entanglements, and doing as such can bring about huge capital misfortune. Here are justifications for why feelings shouldn't cloud your exchanging action.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: MFahad on December 02, 2021, 05:18:37 AM
Yes sir you are right , one of greatest problem of new investors is that they buy tokens all in once. Its not good trading because crypto market is so volatile. No one now waht happen in next 15 minutes. So already be ready for dip and rise.
If we convert our investment to 3 or 5 parts, it will be beat amd profitable amd if market goes down we will not regret . we can make good entey in dip.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: worldofcoins on December 04, 2021, 11:54:36 PM
I'd want to provide some guidance, particularly to individuals who are new to the market. You think you should buy in ALTs whenever the market is rising. And it's possible that you'll gain from it. However, the market drops after you make your investment. When the market falls, you believe you are losing money and sell everything. When you watch the stock market rise, you invest.You will continue to be harmed in this manner. As a result, anytime you need to invest, put a tiny percentage of your portfolio into it. As a result, even if the market falls, you will still have your portfolio. Never trade based on your emotions. Calculate carefully before investing.

Yes totally agree. Never be emotional while trading. Do not get over-excited when the market is rising and don't be upset when the market falls. It's a part of trading. We should be patient and calm while trading. No need to panic if the market drops. Also, try trading in a small amount of investment if you aren't pretty sure about the trend of the market at any particular time. Search for proper market analysis and reviews by the experts. This can be more useful on your trading business.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: 2girls on December 05, 2021, 04:08:10 PM
That point is absolutely right anyone trading so first they collect knowledge about this project and coin so they start trading and the other thing is that you keep Hold a coin in long term .
If you trade and not control your emotions so you receive a big loss so anyone start trading so control your emotions.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: yohananaomi on December 06, 2021, 03:26:12 AM
That point is absolutely right anyone trading so first they collect knowledge about this project and coin so they start trading and the other thing is that you keep Hold a coin in long term .
If you trade and not control your emotions so you receive a big loss so anyone start trading so control your emotions.
Apart from being skilled in trading, there is something that seems to have not been thought about until now and has always been considered meaningless, namely maintaining or controlling "self-emotions".

You are saying the right thing that if we are not able to control we emotions when we are trading, you will receive big losses. controlling emotions is certainly very important in every step in trading because it can regulate when to act properly, and it is not easy to do without experience that has often been done.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: SteveHankse on December 06, 2021, 07:14:11 AM
The half of the game is played by our emotions. The market such as crypto has no place for emotions. You need to know when to do what. That’s why traders should come with a positive and realistic approach. Crypto is a new market and any bad news can affect it significantly. You need to put money only if you’re ready to lose it.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Peanutswar on December 06, 2021, 07:24:00 AM
Even though a professional trader theres trouble with their emotions upon trading this is the reason why some of us nowadays have a trading plan like having the stop loss and take profit this is a good feature by  the exchanges still we cannot remove this kind of traits to our trade because its all about the profit and losses like recently the price of the crypto falls down due to some problems its a good thing to buy today if the bitcoin going to a down trend sure other assets will do too.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: Gosgosking on April 11, 2022, 10:26:47 PM
Our emotion is one of the problem in  trading it has been a set back to many traders. Before one goes into trading he/she needs to work on emotion very to be very successful. Trading is all about building up the mind set.


Title: Re: Emotions should never be traded.
Post by: sensimilia on April 24, 2022, 03:22:10 PM
Our emotions is part of the traders behavior, this would depend only on how their gonna handle it when they do something in the actual trade. If they will implement this matter in a wrong way, of course surely their assets might have a high chance to be loss in the end. But if they're gonna use in a proper way of manner as an individual trader I can assure you as well in the end they could get a nice earnings for sure in the future.
That is why it is important to control emotions because when emotions are not controlled it will have a negative impact,
trading is not just about buying and selling,
analysis is also important in trading to make the right decision
It would be a lot easier for us if we could handle people from here, but if we could not control the knock here, we would always be wrong to take action from the fact that we have unclean discipline here.  I guess that's between the profit-loss here if we're from here If you can control greed then anything can be done