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A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.

Probably there's a reason for all of that? Bitvest is one of the most known gambling site here, probably you should post some proofs, screenshots and other evidences rather than just ranting here since we don't understand you at all but if you believed that they scam you the scam accusation section is always open for you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

I can't see your point, have you been scammed if you are, then why not be more specific, how much they'veve scammed and funds that you can't withdraw, if what you've posted is the present condition of Bitvest then stop playing and just come back when things get better, your title is quite deceiving telling people that Bitvest is a scam when you have nothing here but complaints.

If a compnay chooses to keep their hot wallet empty, that's their decision. There shouldn't be any problem with your withdrawal except it will not be instant. As long as the withdrawals are being processed, I don't see any issue. Did you not receive your withdrawal?

If not, then you have a point and I request you to share screenshots that proves your point. If your withdrawals are being processed, I don't see a point in your statements.

Wait, you created an account today and the charges to the Bitvest site are also today, did you lose gambling on the Bitvest site.

Bitvest is already in the category of the oldest gambling site on this forum, so, on what basis did Bitvest deceive you, what wallet was empty, did you lose a bet so that your money was drained in the game.

I don't see any real evidence that they cheated on you, is it someone's fabrication if lose and get frustrated or I missed a lottery win.

Instead ranting here why not try to contact their support then tell them that their hot wallet is empty for sure you can help them notice that their hot wallet is empty then and they can fill it up once they get back on that issue unto their site.

Also if you don't like what you experiencing on that casino better leave it and find what you think better casino which can deliver your needs.

It's easy, if you don't like the platform then don't play at bitvest, simple as that.

I understand your rant, maybe your are right, but come spewing things is not good to begin with. Open an scam accusations against them show us the proof and maybe you can convince us that bitvest is a scam.

Otherwise, you might be another gambler that lose on their platform, sorry to burst the bubble for you.

Looks like OP lost some money and is now frustrated and lashing out here.

@OP if you think that the website is unpleasant to play to better choose another that would suit your needs. there are a lot of crypto gambling sites to choose from. just take your pick and move on.

Do you have any evidence to support this statement? Not that I don't believe you, but over the years I have read so many false accusations here that could not be properly backed up with evidence. It sounds a bit implausible to me that a hot wallet is always empty. Where did you get information which is the hotwallet and isn't there maybe the possibility that the service creates a new hotwallet after every transaction?

If you check the ANN thread of Bitvest, you'll find some similar complains about empty hot wallet.
In most cases, those users need to wait for weeks till they get their withdrawal.
I do not mean to support OP, I do not agree if it is considered as scam but it is about slow withdrawal process especially when the hot wallet is empty.

The title is very interesting but the content did not live up, there's no amount, no screenshot only rant and complaint, we'd like to see where and how it happened but unfortunately OP did not provide anything.

Like all the others I'd like to believe that OP loses money or if it's about a hot wallet issue then take it to the support

Payment for signature participants are delayed but not one of us posted that Bitvest is a scam you did not post anything, you can'T prove that Bitvest is a scam I guess you don't know the real meaning of scam if you are complaining about the hot wallet, then stop playing, there are a lot of gambling sites here, you should change your title if you don't have any proof.

Totally agree with you, unless OP has some sort of proof that Bitvest has scammed him/he then that's the time that we will probably consider our stance on the issue. Also, what do you mean by being harassed by the moderators? Can you show us the conversation because sometimes people tend to take things a little too far and they mislabel things.

You are not scammed but only hot wallet is empty. Can't remember the last time I play plinko on them, I have no luck but the casino is running one of the longest campaign in then forum, doesn't sound like they are going to scam anyone. They have been around for years building reputation so if you complain about withdrawal, just post on their Announcement thread.

Is lightlord also the owner of Bitvest?
Upon checking his profile he had been out for a long time but I don't think this is because he want to scam anyone. The hot wallet might be empty because of his absence for a long time. Remember, we are still in pandemic and you don't know if someone is experiencing it or not. Cross fingers that lightlord was not infected.
With this long running gambling site, I don't think a scam will happen even until now. Let's be fair and wait for further announcements before accusations.

You should be specific about how much of your coin you have in your hot wallet and what are the criteria for withdrawal you should also upload a proof to your claims you don't just come in here to instigate negative reputation against one of the well known online casinos and you expect to get people believe you without evidence it's not possible

First of all if you are scammed by them then You can create a scam accusation against them in Scam Accusation section with valid proofs.

What you are actually talking about? I mean what do you mean that their Hot wallet is empty? That means you could not withdraw your money ? Or they refused your withdrawal? Yes, it's true that If people lose they will earn. And this is normal. So what is actually wrong here? They refused your withdrawal and forced you to play and lose?

Pandemic is not a reason, you can "WFH" (Work from home).

BTW, anyone who doesn't believe an empty hot wallet tries to see a statement from @panjul07. I also check some issue case against "Bitvest" seem like the empty hot wallet problem is true. For a casino or exchange, this kind of problem is because with gambling you have psychology effect to make you keep playing. Instant cashout is needed to avoid we're betting again + losing all money or the money you win.

But @OP is also wrong to put "scam" word into the title since there is no single proof scamming anyone, change the word to "bad service" would be appropriate. Sometimes people always using "scam" word while they have some problem.

Hot wallet empty, can't process your withdraw so the withdraw probably got rejected.

It seems like you had a bad experience with the site that you have mentioned but to make things fair Op, you should have posted proof or explained specifically about what happened. You should have elaborated your case so everybody would have enlightenment. It's hard to accuse a site without proving it.

Yes, I believe he still is.


OP is probably frustrated by the delay in the withdrawal and he gambled his balance before the withdrawal was processed. So I wouldn't call this a scam just yet.
Although, some members in Bitvest's thread have complained about waiting up to a week for their funds, which is not good for any casino, and you can understand their frustration. I don't know what Lightlord is doing in real life, but a little more engagement about his gambling platforms would probably benefit everyone.

Is this a scam accusation or your personal review about the gambling site?

I think it's not necessary to create a thread anymore, they have an ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1221154.0), you can post on their thread and it will not be deleted since the thread is not moderated, if you do that, you can help them by giving your honest feedback, and they might improve their service as they have been here for many years already.

Yes, both 777coin and bitvest.
@OP. I believe there's really an issue about their hot wallets but if you are eager to withdraw then you shouldn't gamble and waited for the right time they fill the hot wallet. And if you don't like the chat of their mods and banned you within a few minutes, there's probably a reason behind it and maybe you ranted on them and improperly addressed your problem.

i guess he have a lot of cryptos to withdraw because someone says that small withdrawals are still possible .
even without a proof i think im going to believe in what op said ( only for the hot wallet issue and not about the chat and others ) because i also read the same issue before in bitvest but they shouldnt be alarmed because the wallets are going to get refilled once lightlord goes back as we all know that he is such a busy person especially now that he isnt active for days  .

Maybe this is the main reason of creating this thread. Sometime some unexpected error come to in-front. This is normal for everywhere. when the withdraw was rejected he tried to play more to pass some time or win more but at the end he/she was lost his money. This is one of the biggest mistake in gambling. when you have profit either big or less always it should be secured imo.

Hi, before you post any accusation, make sure that you collate your evidence against the project. Posting an accusation without substantiating any proof will not hold any water. In addition, please post this thread accordingly under the right board.

Though there may have been some accusations against something, always remember to follow it up with all the proof/evidences you have. Mere claiming that a website is a scam due to some irregularities will not be heeded. Remember that the internet is a tangled web where one information is spread easily to another, thereby causing the destruction of the image of such website.

ok, again and again strange people appear here 'lol'

without proof you can't claim anything, besides that bitvest is one of the old crypto gambling sites with a good reputation, if you are upset because you lost at bitvest then come back to play tomorrow.

from what I understand OP is complaining that Bitvest is not providing good service for him, he should change site if he thinks Bitvest is not providing good service. maybe this post of his is to alert people. at last the owner of Bitvest will be able to come and explain what is happening if all that the OP said is really true or not. but one thing is clear: Bitvest is not a scam, although from what I understand OP wanted the payments to be instant, I don't use Bitvest so I can't confirm whether the payments are instant or not.

I don't understand what the OP meant in this thread. He seemed to have misconceived the thread. Regarding the Bitvest casino so far I have played there and there is nothing that smells of fraud. If you have proof, it would be better if it was validly included. Don't make accusations that have supporting evidence.

Do you have proves to back your claims I used Bitvest sometimes back and did not experience any of these problems may be there have changed their operations recently? I will advise you to post your complaint in the main thread before making an accusation thread.

That likely might happened to him. We can't really expect that if we gamble and we're hoping to withdraw, it'll stay. But in this case, there's a known problem for bitvest that their hot wallet hasn't been filled and hasn't been addressed yet but it's a known casino and they won't scam anyone. The term that's correct is delayed but not scammed if he has a pending withdrawal.

My comment to you is: from the title and the text content that is tried and disclosed does not in any way reflect any authentic evidence of how Bitvest casino is said to have committed fraudulent acts against any of the users, especially you.

However, if this really makes you feel cheated, you can attach all the evidence in the fraud thread (but don't forget that all these accusations have valid and accountable evidence) Because this concerns the reputation of the gambling casino that has been around for so long. long and became quite famous. Then suddenly you come in with no proof and spit out the headline: Bitvest is a scam

I think it's simple:
- If you feel cheated, have you clarified with the casino in question?
- If you feel cheated, can we get proof that every submission you make is attached to the thread?

If you don't include those two points, then this is just an accusation without evidence. Lol

From what I've noticed, the OP only complains about the delayed withdrawal problem because the Bitvest hot wallet hasn't been filled yet
but what makes the OP look stupid is the title of the thread he made as if he had been scammed by bitvest

surely in a few days he will make a statement sorry for the misunderstanding he made and lock this topic

You with a new account then complain it's quite reasonable. Are you complaining that your wallet at the casino is not fully filled in the time you expected?
I don't know for sure how you started the casino to have serious problems. Complaints but you didn't show us any display as proof. Can you drop evidence to substantiate the problem you are currently facing?

One doesn't have to be a newbie before they can complain, you are here as a high rank member simply because you register before him, anyone can complain as long as I they have problems with service since they are always active on this forum.

What I don't understand with OP is he refuse to really point out his main problem with the casino, if the casino is out of funds for instant withdrawal, you should channel the problem to customers service provider, they will surely fixed it and I'm sure that you also read there terms and conditions before making a sign up.

I guess it is the same issue as what experienced by some other players:



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5359651.0

That are some other users who are also complaining about empty hot wallet in Bitvest. I look into those cases deeper and I can see that when the hot wallet is empty, withdrawal is not processed and players get a notification like in below image:

https://i.imgur.com/5nBP3km.png

Image taken from cjmoles post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1221154.msg57617797#msg57617797

The OP is just labeling it as a scam as maybe he lost the money that he wanted to withdraw, because at the time of withdrawal, the hot wallet is empty. And because he'd been waiting to fill up that up, he played again and he lost it. So technically it is not a scam. But recently, I've read in their thread that people are really having bad time withdrawing. The site has been one of the long running casinos here but I think, the response time of the owner is not really good. So for those who want to play on that site better hold off and wait for the pending transactions to go thru.

Make a proper thread on the scam accusation section. Make sure you provide enough proof to back your claims. I don't think "hot wallet" being empty counts as scamming people. As long as they are processing withdrawals, then it's fine. You can say that they are misleading their users by saying that they have "instant withdrawal" even though its not (according to you). Are you sure they do this quite often? Or are you just upset because you lost your profit/coins while waiting for them to refill their hot wallet? Hot wallets can't always be full.

We don't know yet what is the reason why lightlord is not responding here. Maybe he has personal reasons to attend to. Because as far as I know, he always resolves this kind of issue. Now, it seems, it is taking longer why some people are not happy about it. Which I think is also not very good for long running casino. If players can wait, just wait bit longer once lightlord is online. I don't think he will end up this casino in this manner.

Anyone is always welcomed to throw accusations against any site, popular or not. But should be properly backed up and not just throwing sh*t without proof. Not just story but provide support about your claims and the community will listen.

Your statement doesn't have any bearing without backing up your claims. Sorry for your loss if you got busted on that site. If delays about withdrawal, as long as its not that much delayed and they are paying, that can still consider as smooth.

There's news that Lightlord is sick based on Eloncoin thread but it did not point out if it is Lighlord OP is stating hot wallet, not payout and withdrawal so I don't think we can consider Bitvest as a scam gambling site, there were also complaints about hotwallet before but they always resolved it, OP is just not patient to wait for the hot wallet to get filled.

Instant cashout seems not an expected thing to happened now. As long as they processing withdrawals within our supposed expected period, that's fine.

Where's the scam part of OP's statement? Just crying out without proof.

They arent a scam!

Show solid proofs in regarding on your claims knowing Bitvest and 777coin are just one of the oldest long time running gambling sites on this market and they wouldnt just mess up their reputation
that had been built for years.

Claiming something without solid proofs would be considered trolling or just simply trying to make issues maybe done by other competitors.There might be some possible issues but
dont worry those problems would be resolved out in no time.

That explains why campaigns are yet not paid. Hope he gets well soon. I don't see this accusation going since the casino had been established in the early days of Bitcoin and still running today.

I have no idea how hard to manage two casinos. But does lightlord have partners to his business that could take care of his business while he is away?

I think OP knows that considering he created a new account in Bitcointalk just to check about lightlord.
After checking out his profile that had been inactive for just 13 days he already made a thread like this in the gambling section.
This site has put roots in the cryptocurrency gambling industry and suddenly it becomes a scam on a finger snap? Thanos?
You gotta have something better to prove that first. Facts. Not just because you failed an instant withdrawal. Problems are solved thru discussions and not a sudden accuse, you could've just started a thread asking why instant withdrawals are not working.

There's no update on Elon coin thread in which Lighlord is the main developer, there are so many questions on the projects he is managing, I just wish him the best, both of his gambling sites are still doing good and I hope it will continue to be stable that includes his Crypto project actually he can hire good people to manage his projects Boss is good at managing his campaign he can escrow the funds and so are the other projects he is managing here.

OP's intention is to create FUD among Bitvest players and promoters ha cannot back up the allegations he is talking about a hot wallet that is not classified as a scam allegation, there are gambling sites that took more than 48 hours to process the withdrawal because of the hot wallet issue, but that does not constitute a scam allegation, I don't think he will log in to back up his accusations.

Oh please, I wont talk about the hotwallet issue since a lot of people have already said it, but if it was mod abuse then simply providing screenshots wouldn't be hard for you, op, no? That should be more than enough of a proof so that the owner could take actions about it.

Honestly, just play on another casino if thats the problem, the second problem isn't even a scam issue imo, it's just a review in itself

you must put proofs of your claiming here , there are many things to deliver but you cannot make it real unless you give rightful answers.
bitvest  is handling their site for that long but why still playing? if you find their Hot wallet empty then best not to deposit and play at all . before playing in
casino site best to check always the Hot wallet so it will be there answer your claims when you withdraw.
That's it , there are many casinos here to choose why spend your time and money in such site?

looks like some other campaign participants that has no patience in waiting their payment so here making this kind of accusation instead of using their own main accounts.
these coward is nothing but a cry baby who cannot manage their attitude and here crying for help.
or another loser who cannot handle his losses and now making this accusation .

That's not new, some people really have no patience and concluded immediately that a gambling site is scam or anything. We all know that Bitvest is running for a long time and their signature campaign is one the longest signature campaign that is running here in the forum.

My suggestion to you is to stay calm and for sure you will receive your money in no time.

Therefore the level of suspicion will be very dominant if he is one of the scammers with his new account. Precisely with the evidence attached, there will be very many questions asked. As Bitvest casino is quite reputable on this forum, so we just want proof for all those accusations.

What you said is all true but hot wallet is indeed need to have balance most of the time because players are using cashout to get away from gambling or else they might lose there money once they play again. I understand what's the sentiment of OP since its very crucial for a gambler to know when to stop once you already won.

But a scam accusation is not appropriate. He should post this sentiment on Bitvest thread to discuss his issue. I don't know what's happening on Bitvest but there's something different on the management of the Casino compared before that everything seems flawless.

Not sure what the connection is between the casino being a scam and the hot wallets being empty here...but as far as I can tell this might be a security measure on their side to avoid losing funds incase of the platform being compromised and its commendable because security is an important element in the crypto ecosystem. But if the intention of bring the topic of hot wallets has to do with not getting paid engage their support and exercise some patience.


If this is what you go through, if I were you I would find a different casino to play from to avoid this treatment but thanks bringing it it out here.

What you are describing cannot be categorized as a scam, if true then this is bad service on their part and nothing more, you can complain to try to fix the situation but when that does not work then it is time to leave the casino and look for others, we have many reputable casinos in the forum that will be happy to take your business, why bother with a casino that you think does not treat you right? So do not get mad about it and just move on and play somewhere else.

Actually, I cannot trust you, you are a newbie with only one post about this scam accusation.
Moreover, your Accusation is not based on proof. There is no proof or even a clear explanation.
You may only have issues with this platfomr. Bidvest is a popular and reputable old gambling platform. And you can still contact them to make clear of your problem.s Additionally, the issues must be fixed by the team if that is really true and you don't break their rules or T&C. 

Well, I agree with you --actually, this is my first time seeing that Bitvest had an issue here and so far from years had passed that I have here, I never heard such a problem before. Perhaps OP was kind of abusing the platform because of the rain, spamming the chatbox for the purpose of the rain that could get a free few dollars just for spamming without thought, and perhaps the admin there was get upset because of that attitude. If OP can provide and valid proof, this can be moved to the scam accusation board --but it seems this is a baseless or useless accusation, then, there is nothing who will believe him.

Fact! There are gamblers that cannot take their patience and instead of waiting, they're concluding that the casino is a scam despite having a history although it's really paying and allowing cash outs. It could also be a gambler that just have lost all that he got when he's about to withdraw then calls the casino a scam. Many did that before and many didn't believed on what they've said but on his part, maybe he has lost and no more patience left so he accused. But on the part of bitvest, they should answer and fix these issues being made by their players if it's real.

To throw such severe allegations to Bitvest which is one of the biggest gambling firms in this forum needs some form of proof for us to believe you. You can't just say it's scam just because you found that the hotwallet is oftentimes unfilled which as far as I know is the same for most of the gambling sites I have played on. Also, since this thread is becoming big already I believe Bitvest should release a statement as well clearing out any form of allegations against them so people's trust over them wouldn't be jeopardized.  Agree with you. Could just be someone attempting to put Bitvest in the spotlight and throw dirt on its name. I would also agree with your suggestion of having OP contact Bitvest him/herself to clear out the scam accusations but there are also newbies here who as a result of this might avoid Bitvest altogether and that would put them in serious issues, at least for me since newcomers are just as important as your patrons. I believe a statement is needed to be made in order to clear out these allegations once and for all considering this thread is already becoming more and more noticeable.

the account is clearly created with sole intention and that is to bring this post here and let people pump it to bring Bitvest/lightlord attention ,
 if i am not mistaken this account is someone who has an issue in this site but cannot face directly using his Main
 account that is why there is a need for creating a newbie to deliver his issue and he will use other account to bump this and
 release His frustrations ..
We must not trust any account that has this kind of attitude.

In my more than 2 years stay in lightlord signature campaign and as my weekly payments being spent in the bitvest and 777coin site for my first year? i must say that this never become an issue though indeed that Hotwallet sometimes being drained yet in a couple of days it is being refilled.
though this past months lightlord seemingly not paying attention to these 2 gambling sites instead focusing in His Elon coin project.
Hope everything will be settled and proved that he is a legit and still trustworthy owner of gambling site.

Some users don't have account here, they do create only when they have problems or difficulties and that's what the op is going through right now.
I think the problem they always have is miss communication with support and when they don't have a voice, they head to Bitcointalk for some help.

I don't know much about Bitvest but they have been on the forum for long time to allow a little amount to spoiled their reputation.

That's definitely a big red flag if your money vanishes and is unrecoverable before you've even played any games. There are so many reliable and high quality bitcoin casinos out there, it is simply shocking if anyone continues to deposit in such a place. I guess they are relying on people impressed by the flashy design and functionality, then lose their business after the first failed cash out. You'd be surprised how many times people will deposit, before getting bored and then failing to extract the small amount they might have left over. It's a bit of a hit and run strategy, but there are more fools born every day. Sadly the anonymity that drives many of these sites will leave you totally exposed and without a chance of getting your money back if things go badly.

The CM of bitvest and 777coin has already posted on their campaign thread. And as far as the news reached to him, lightlord is sick. The reason why he couldn't attend these things for the moment. So let us just wish lightlord to get well soon to address these issues. With his long running casinos in the forum, I don't think he will jeopardize his name because of this. I just hope he has other staffs that he can trust to run his business while he is not capable of doing so. In that way, his players will not lose trust on these sites.

I cannot speak for the bounty campaign participants I can only give my one cent opinion, in the case of Bitvest and 777Coin not paying bounty participants is not intentional but there is a need to escrow at least for one set of time of campaign, payment should be shortened to at least one month.
I still don't think Lightlord deserves a red trust or a flag what happen to him can happen to any of us, I just hope we hear him or any of his representative soon.

Can you please buttress more on your subject line and equally provide evidence for us to believe your claim because without evidence of how you were scammed no one will you and allegation serious. Except you have personal problem with the owners here and the only way for now it to laid against the site. The site is well known site with good reputation here.

The thread starter was online two days ago and did not reply to any of the comments, this goes to show clearly how this thread was made to throw bitvest and a new account accusing a well-known gambling site of scam is quite unfortunate and should not be taken serious.

I read in some places that lightlord is sick and that's why he can't enter the forum. If he is really sick, I wish him a speedy recovery. He hasn't logged into the forum since Sept 26. It's a serious illness that he probably didn't even have a chance to simply enter the forum and make a statement. This is a sad situation for people who have not received payment for about 10 weeks. I hope he gets over his illness soon and makes the payments.

10 weeks is very long to get your rewards but payment is on Bitcoin and it's better than an altcoin bounty campaign, that does not guaranty the coin you are promoting will have value or will get in the market, and sometimes it took 5 months or more to get listed, aside from this thread so far there is no new post about Bitvest that it's a scam site it's still doing ok but we never know in the coming days.
Maybe Lighlord is not the only one managing the two casinos, maybe it's a company and they have staffs to run it,  I hope the two casinos  will be ok in the coming weeks

The newbie account who has registered today only is not going to have many persons who believe you instantly until you provide them with some valid proofs against your scam accusations and how did exactly they fool of your funds? Some payment delay is present on the campaign but it's separate issue so can't say exactly in what context you are referring it to.Give some proofs to the members so that they could help you in your case.

This is true and there's no way a donator and long time forum user will scam user of his casino. I think his illness is serious, He is already inactive prior to this issue before and he manage to come back and pay the other user who's complaining about Bitvest too. His stuff can't handle this since he is the only one holding the funds for operating cost. I hope that the Casino will atleast temporarily closed if there's an issue like this arise.

I'm not update anymore but anyone here play recently on Bitvest or 777?

true or not lightlord is sick, I always hope for the best for him
10 weeks is quite a long time. For the participants of the lightlord signature campaign, I hope they will be patient and remain confident that their hard work will be paid off

we all hope so

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btw, now I see lightlord account has been tagged red by the pharmacist

Due to the fact that lightlord is inactive for around 2 weeks and the fact that he owes his signature campaign participants for 10 rounds. In my opinion it is wiser and better to stay away for a while from the casinos owned by lightlord (bitvest and 777coin). Hope lightlord will come back as soon as possible and if he is truly sick, hope he will get well soon.

If he is really sick, which is what it looks like, I wish him well, but there are many of you, who take for granted the fact that he is sick to justify what is happening with the money.

Two businesses that move so much money plus their advertising campaigns cannot depend on a single person, that if he suddenly dies or gets sick, there is no one else who has access to the funds and everything is paralyzed.

I play poker, in fiat rooms, and even in the smallest fiat rooms this could not happen, because if the owner or manager gets sick, there is always someone appointed to keep the business going.


Well, it seems that as far as money is concerned, this is the case. 

I understand that the gambling site is run by several "many" teams. This is a little strange for me, the Bitvest gambling site lately, accusations have been popping up, accusations have been popping up, what is really going on behind all this, are they broke or something is unknown.

About @lightlord, he's a member of this forum and runs a campaign, if he's sick it's ok that's okay, understand.

The problem is 'fraud', that shouldn't happen they have a team, it's impossible for a gambling site to be run by one person, here's the question, what's the matter.......! About the two gambling sites Bit and 7C.

According to one calculation, Lightlord owed the bounty participants $19,000 based on Bitcoin current price, this is a big money and if ever Lighlord returns and decide to run a campaign again, there should be an escrow and it should be bi-weekly payment instead of bi-monthly to avoid, scenarios like this from happening again, there's a possibility that Bitvest and 777 Coin will lose some players, especially players with an account here in Bitcointalk and aware of this issue. 

if you don't like the platform then leave it, as simple like that. We have the choice to choose a trusted gambling site or not. There are many gambling situations and we must be more careful in choosing them. if you have proof that this is a scam then you can complain it and it will help others too. Of course it's frustrating if we lose money but we also have to know what the cause is. I don't know what is said is true or not about fraud but I just want to say that this is the world of gambling so be more careful and be aware of whatever it is.

The fact that the hot wallet is being emptied is not a scam, it is a sign of caution. Casinos regularly empty their hot wallet for security reasons.
It is true that the term "instant payout" should be verified in this situation, but surely the scam accusation is misused here.

It would be really good to show the proof / evidence of what has gone wrong. Yes what you say, might have taken place but since Bitvest is being a well known for its good reputation, its better to show what you are saying is right. At times it happens to many as there might be few technical errors or issues from their end happened accidentally. Its better to contact them and solve your issues instead of seeking the same from somewhere else. 

These days, we have a lot of choices now. Even in this forum alone, there are so many reputable and new casinos where you can play. But on the case of this casino, as it has been conveyed, the owner is sick. So wishing him to get well soon. And once he gets back, he should divide some of his tasks to other staffs so his businesses will not be paralyzed when he can't attend with it. And I believe it is not good management if only one person can handle these things. Talking about precautionary measures.

This can explain the delay in weekly paiement for signature campaign participants [Bitvest,777Coin] but no one has confirmed that the illnes of LightLord is the reason for the hotwallet to remain empty for a long time. However, LightLord hasn't logged into the forum since September 26 while signature campaign participants have a payment delay since about 10 weeks. This should somehow rise some Flags, but far to call it as a confirmd scam.
I see more complaints about delayed withdrawals in their  campaign ANN threads. It's a little bit scary how community is waiting for a single person to come back and solve everything, i thought the casinos are running with full team and not managed by a single person .

It's not that there are many other reputable casinos and bookies out there, it's just a matter of eliminating those that are unfair from the market.
The accusation of fraud just because someone has a delayed payment is way too much and even if such situations do occur, they should be cleared up in a calm way and not by creating scam accusations.

The situation could be different in other gamblers where their money are stuck on the casino and despite they want to leave, they just can't because there's still the amount that they want to withdraw. But on this situation, I think it's needed also some understanding on both ends, while the hot wallet hasn't been refilled due to some problem by knowing the owner is sick. Someone who's affected of it has to wait but we don't know if people who are affected by it is also facing another problem that's requiring him that money.

Yes, it's really alarming, especially for those campaign participants who have yet to get their payment. I think that it's already a significant red flag, especially for signature campaign participants and gamblers, because money is involved here and there hasn't been a solution for a week. I propose looking for another worthwhile platform that has no payment troubles and will provide you with assurance and a reputable platform.

Even if the OP is a newbie, we have no right to invalidate this unless it is proven that the statement is incorrect; nonetheless, everyone has learned that there are also issues in the campaign itself, thus this gambling platform is very dangerous right now.

You seem to be more concerned by the payment of their signature campaign than the ability for gamblers to withdraw and get back their own funds, that's a little bit weird but I guess you're not a gambler but just a signature campaign poster. Then I suggest you to open a thread about the campaigns from gambling sites, it could be interesting to speak about those campaigns somewhere.

It seems that there's a problem inside of the team plus the CM of these two big old gambling sites is probably sick. And the sudden appearance of complaints almost everywhere about these gambling sites is alarming but I trust these sites since they were here for a long time. And I think if the CM would come and explain everything that would be helpful but for now let's just wait for his fast recovery.

And for the OP, and other complainants, I suggest going straight to their contact support if you have any problem and don't just post any negative comments about them if you don't have any solid evidence yet to present.

Saying it's easy, if it's really proven that was a scam, it should be followed up immediately before more people enter and get scammed again.
The world of gambling is not for fraud, but for having fun and getting lots of opportunities to make a profit, and it is our right to report the site cheating in it.
I've been to BV, but I haven't seen that it's really a scam place, it's just that betting with the token has a very small chance of winning.

It is not the CM instead the OWNER in which having sickness now , lightlord specifically.
wait appearance everywhere? please specify exactly which places are there? because i can see only in Signature thread in the past, and then in their ANN thread(Normal because that is the place where to contact the team , and there are some in gambling section , and now the new one is reputation section.
that is the thing , because OP does not even show anything here but only a direct accusation .

well Finally @lightlord got online today though not longer as got offline back after an hour

https://i.imgur.com/4ZETHXQ.png

Hope He'll go active to answer everything from this kind of accusation and also to pay His campaign participants for more than 2 months of due.

but the only problem i see is that His account already Painted in red things that may cause something different from His decisions .

who are you? what is your case against Bitvest? why are you making this BS thread but never goes back online to fulfil your case?

maybe you are the one who is Bored in life lol.

What promo? you know what? there are no complete details brings here and you are only making this case posting .

Even if it is managed by a single person for now, lightlord will definitely do what you say after this situation. Several people must have this information in order to provide alternative access and business continuity.  I understand him, obviously he can't trust people.  However, if a negative situation occurs -like now- all people will be victims.  I saw it's active today I hope it fixes all the problems.

Yes the negative trust may influence his decision but I think he will do the best for his own reputation unless he does not care about it anymore. Hopefully all will be resolved soon and he can continue the business with a better service than before. He needs to have some people around to help him in managing his business.

Well @op, its a free world we all know, but this does not mean we go about accusing a business of fraud without proof, accusation without evidence or proof are one of the things this forum and its members frown at so well.
If Bitvest have scammed you in any way, my advice is that you proof it, this is the only way you can be taken seriously here, and again, please do well to move this thread to the scam accusation section cus thats where this kind of topic belongs.

The red paint can turn neutral once he is able to send the fees and disprove scam. It will be a waste to just throw all the hard work he had done for years building a reputation for that 2 casinos. Its been discussed that he was sick, it should explain his absense. Its good to hear his side of story to clear it up.

This is not the right place for the OP, if he is actually a victim then scam accusations section is the place to go with all the proof and already the discussion regarding this issue is going on the reputation section so no need to discuss the same thing on multiple threads.

That does not seem to me to be what the OP is describing, it seems to me that at some point he wanted to withdraw his coins and the hot wallet was empty so he had to wait until it was filled again and then he kept gambling and busted his account and then the hot wallet was filled again but now he could not withdraw as he had already lost his money, I will say it again to me he is not describing a scam but rather a bad service, and while it can be frustrating and I understand why he is mad he is doing himself no favors by making such bold accusations.

No offense for Finalshot2016 if he is only concerned about signature campaign participants. This doesn't mean that the delay of withdrawals for app users isn't important at the same level. But while the withdrawals are waiting for the empty hot-wallet to be filled, bounty participants seems to be waiting for a god miracle esecially after about ten weeks not paied and the campaign manager move the campaign to {Hold} mode, and this is a solid reason why users from bitcointalk want to first solve the issue with signature participants .
Note : Not everybody posting here is a gambler, as not everybody posting comments you may not like is a signature campaign participant willing to reach the weekly post quota. Be cool Man !

high likely people got their hopes up when they saw that lightlord finally got online. this is somewhat interesting to follow as many people are awaiting for his return. i dont think he will ruin his long years of hard work for these 2 casinos. he may have shortcomings but afaik, he always paid those people involved. however, i'm hoping that once he resolved his current problems, he can delegate important tasks to others so this situation will not come up again. because some players got burned and they don't want to experience this again.

The big question is is it really Lightlord or maybe he asks someone close to him to check his account and his messages, if it is Lighlord he has an obligation to fulfill, he should drop a line here so people can stop speculating about the real status of his projects and campaigns here in Bitcointalk, it's been 10 weeks, and his promoters are loyal to his campaign, they still wear the signature, he should give back the respect.

Not sure if this going to happen because DT's specially like what @ThePharmacist put on Him years ago happens again now
and i don't think this will again taking for granted as he does not acting very professional in His company's employees .

this will serve as example to all members not only those not trusted but even in long time members and Donators.

maybe He has issues or some buy time but this is Obligation when you have a business .

Yes he is often delayed on payments but still managed to pay those people involved. But because of these issues about his casino (and campaigns here), I think its better to refrain from playing for a while until the issue about withdrawal is resolved. I agree that he should entrust someone to act on his behalf (for his 2 casinos) if he is not around. This way misunderstanding and queries can be answered.

I still have 6 to 8 weeks of payment, in the past I never lose hope but after this second month of the campaign and he is not posting anything I figure something is unusual, because he posts and guaranty payment even if it takes a week more before payment, I'm losing trust because he logs in and he never posted anything, there's a betrayal of trust here, we trust that we get paid and he cannot give us even a word of assurance.

The latest update is he'll process pending payment within 48 hours hopefully all doubts will be clear and Lightlord reputation will be cleared

In their both thread, @lightlord update the news that he will pay no later than 48 hours from this post.


So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.

surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.

I'm sure they will have a discussion of escrow and duration of payout, Boss knows how to run a good campaign and he wants the two campaigns to continue, he will likely ask for escrow and weekly payout I might go back to them if my current campaign is over but I like my current campaign to have more extensions the payment here is pretty good hopefully it will.

I hope things will go well on Bitvest and 777Coin.

I actually agree with this one.

The behaviour of not having a hot wallet and allowing cash outs to be cancelled is definitely shady.

I doubt that you'll be "scammed outright" if you play though. Lightlord has been around a while, has always been less than professional, but yet has always paid out at the end of the day.

Everyone is hoping for the best for him and even if he's too busy in things that he does. He should maintain the best service that's been known to them including the emptiness of their hot wallet. And as they promote instant cashout then that's what they have to maintain and always have someone to refill their hot wallet from time to time or make a definitive way to refill it automatically from the players fund that have lost to them just recently so that it's just a cycle of winners fund for withdrawal and losers fund to refill.

I'm sure he will address this issue, he promised payment to bounty hunters he'll also address the hot wallet, the two casinos are his two main sources of income, the promotion is useless if there are issues on these two casinos if he will address the issue of bounty campaign, he'll address the hot wallet as well in fact it should come first.

this is the recent update of lightlord towards this issue of escrowing the funds for the campaign participants

so I am thinking that everything will be doing smooth again and will go back when those campaign started handling by lutpin as the manager and escrow .

if this will happen then another years will run for these 2 signature .

Indeed. That is the only way for the members to have the time to get paid just in time.
If he can do what @Lutpin did before, I think that helps the participants get payment, even if @lightlord is not online.
Hopefully, there will be a change for the campaign and everything will be okay and the participants can continue to promote the site like the other members.
The manager is now very good at handling both campaigns, so I am sure that the situation will still be under his control.
+1 for CryptoprenuerBrainboss.

How does a site not having any promos have anything to do with their legitimacy? Just wondering.

But yeah it's a fair point. Not having a filled up hot wallet and having lots of people complain about withdrawals and having no communication whatsoever to the public is very fishy.

I wouldn't play on their but I wouldn't call them a scam just yet.

He has said about the payment issues and yes for future he need to have escrow services to ensure manager have funds with them for payment processing ASAP.But still the members are awaiting payment from past 10 weeks and that needs to be paid to them for the work they have done.So wait for the time.

It is not just about paying, it is not about bonus neither, it is about him being this late each time and then paying a bonus to make it look like it is fine. First of all they are already paying less than almost any place, I do not want to say lowest because maybe there is any lower that I do not know about, but I have never seen any lower before. On top of that they keep the money for 2 months and then they end up saying they will pay with bonus.

What did he do, gambled with it himself? Invested it? Made profit from what he should have paid 2 months ago and now putting it back with some profit on his pocket? We have no idea what he did.

If you are not paying on time, it is fine for the first few times after you pay, but if you are doing it all the time then it sounds like there could be a problem that will not be fixed, how do you know he will not be AWOL again for 2 months?

You have a point but members are joining because it's paying Bitcoin, they are joining because there are no open slots in other campaigns, they are joining because they want a long campaign they don't want to hop from one campaign to another, other reasons they are preparing themselves for big campaigns.

It all goes down to many people wanting to join a campaign that pays Bitcoin but there's not enough campaign in the service section that pays that's much better than Bitvest and 777Coin, whatever rules Lightlord set up, participants follow.
it's time for Lightlord to show consideration by doing a weekly payout.

but he says 48 hours and now it has been 28 hours passed yet no update , The last time He said 48 hours will be processed it took Him more than 96 hours to pay the participants with a "TOO LITTLE BONUS" I don't know if @lightlord is really a professional person because he cannot even Hold with his words .
this made me think if he really pay respect to the people who works with him or he just treated them as a slave to work for him and only get what they deserve to His own time and decision and nothing more to demand .

That's why the participants should think about this if they really want to continue their journey on that campaign or not since imagine how long the delay they already encountering right now and its little bit disturbing to see the owner is inactive. I know that he is a Donator but he should act professional towards his activities here, he have reputation to protect specially he is running a business on this forum.

Your title is very misleading and it spreads FUD. Where are your evidences that bitvest is indeed a scam? Do you have any proof that they really deceived and scammed you? In what way? Did they steal anything from you? Did your account lose money? You see, the terms of service of every platform changes without prior notice. Maybe you had a violation that cause your account to be banned by the moderators. If they weren't able to detect unusual activities from your account, why would they waste their time on you? Are you the only user accessing and playing it to the point they would invest so much time and attention to you?

I suggest, instead of complaining here without dropping evidences, you gather it and show it here so that we can give more appropriate advices to you. It would really be hard to talk and badmouth bitvest without counter checking whether what you stated are true. In fact, what you have written were just merely rants because it has no supporting documents.

I believe he has a reason for it. That campaign is a long time ago. That is the only campaign that has lasted this long and continues to amaze me. But, yes, this delay is inconvenient because you are working and not being paid. I'm hoping it'll be resolved soon. However, it is still up to the participant to decide whether or not to continue with the campaign. But for me its time to leave if ever you really in need of money .

You realise the avatar you have on right now at this moment, you are advertising for a known scammer? Yet you still choose to advertise for them. I wonder if you even believe your own writing on this forums.... ::)

Anyway, I wouldn't take advice on who to trust from people who willingly choose to support known scammers and liars. Although I do agree that anyone who wants to check out a project or website should do so in the scam accusation thread as well as at least a google search...

Oh come on! Bitvest is the worst campaign I have been a part of. They are basically paying people to spam forum with load of useless messages. And the payment is so low I can't believe that there are still people willing to be in the campaign.

You can call it as a worst campaign but it's one of the longest paying campaign for a reason. And users who are joining is one the reason why it's still running until now. While calling it as a scam is just an accusation until you provide a valid proof to back your accusation.

Yeah exactly.

Almost ponzi like if they don't handle this properly so waters can get muddy pretty quickly.

I'm not sure whether this is genuinely a scam attempt though, I'm fairly sure it's just perpetual mismanagement of the entire business or a result of not putting in enough effort for the maintenance of the company imho.

You're aware that scam is different from spam, right?
Do you really need a proof of that? You can easily compare the number of posts the users will write this week, while the campaign is paused.

I don't think that it's a scam attempt but everyone is just waiting to get paid and for the refill of the hot wallet. It should be filled within a couple of hours from now.
We don't like the delay that has been too long and everyone is experiencing inconvenience at that point. That's why it's why many are disappointed from that point.

I have to agree with you that scam might not be the appropriate term and Bitvest won't likely be turned into that.

But if that kind of action wherein everything is always a long delay, either in their campaign or to their user's withdrawal at their site, that was already unprofessional. Delays are ok and can't be avoided but if that's always the case for long, it's not good anymore and something needs to be done.

I hope the case will be properly addressed. They are one of the long-time running sites in the crypto-gambling community and the reputation built since then shouldn't be damaged.

We're all speculating and waiting what will happen next when it's already properly addressed.
There must be a method to be used that will give back the confidence of those loyal players on their site about the problem of emptying of hot wallet when the owner is away.

We do not know how the continuation of this case, and we also do not know the truth of this case.
If I read this is only related to the accusation, and the accusations are not necessarily the truth. Moreover, he did not provide evidence that was convincing. And the description of whether he had contacted them or got a response from them.
Maybe he experienced a little obstacle on this platform but he only created an account and posted this accusation. After that, he didn't return. Really strange.

There's no scam exactly but OP is frustrated with the service which is understandable. I don't know how long OP has a problem now and we don't know if it's real and genuine. Don't know the status of how fast their withdrawal is on their gambling site but if we will be based on their signature campaign here, payments are not made even on a monthly basis if I heard it right. If those simple things can't be fixed, how more to the technical side especially the part of refilling the hot wallet.

Waiting for a long withdrawal is not convenient for a gambler. It's one of the factors that gamblers are looking into before using a gambling site.

Usually gambling site have less few minutes withdrawing process but what your problem until withdraw delay, I think Bitvest still not scam and you need to get contact and talk your problem there, with this tread maybe have their team can see and solve your problem. Still have many advertisement about Bitvest gambling site on every where and on this forum still have this site and I think is indicate not scam.

Bitvest is one of the popular gambling platforms on this forum, yes the owner of the site was absent on this forum for some days but have returned and made an announcement which shows the site is not a scam but the operator needs more hands to handle the site properly rather than making it a one-man show.

Yes, it is almost 48 hours.
Hopefully, @lightlord can pay his participant at the right time and announce something related to the campaign.
When @lightlord says that he will send the payment in the next 48 hours, he will keep his promise and send it to them.
But hanging their participants without paying for a long time is not good for the campaign and participants.
So maybe there will be a discussion between @CB and @lightlord about the campaign.

Besides that, Bitvest is already part of this forum for a long time ago.
And @lightlord always paid the participants, although he delays from bi-week into a month or more.
Hopefully, everything can be clear to all of his participants and all of them can get paid at the right time.

Its none of your matter if they pay low to the signature campaign participants. They have hired a good manager and i don't think anyone who spam can remain in that campaign. If you see any spam by those participants you can highlight them to the campaign manager and he may take steps if your observation is valid.

Most probably they make delays in the payment but also gave bonuses with next payment which is why members prefer to remain in the campaign aside from the longest running campaign on the forum.The manager is taking all the work with responsibility but he can't pay from his own pocket unless he receives funds from the owners of the campaign.But still the members need to take responsibility of their campaign that whether they want to join or not.

O.P has is yet to reply or comment any of the questions which signifying that he has not serious allegation against Bitvest and even those are complaining against none payment of the signature campaign have all received their payment with bonus.

lightlord buzzer beat the occasion as he already Paid the participants now meaning OP must lock this thread because bitvest never scammed anyone with complete proof in this forum or out.

here is the post of the owner just minutes ago with High Bonus

Oh, I see that some people here doesn't know the difference between scam and spam. I never said that Bitvest is a scam. OP did that for reasons that only he knows. I said that the campaign is "forcing" people to spam  (not scam, but spam) the forum with posts that are written just to boost the post count.

I think he is referring about the title as it was called out as Scam and not about your post calling it as spam.

just a misunderstanding i believe ..


Anyway like what posted above , the campaign already  being paid so the new case is about escrowing the funds for payment purposes .

also the main concern here in this thread is about the "Hot Wallet" in which the point of OP but of course the topic runs out of it and comes to the signature campaign.

Hope that lightlord will make some good action not only in His weekly obligation in the signature but also giving assurance about the filling of Hot wallet every here and there as that is the issue of the gamblers in His gambling sites.

"read the full content" well if the main wallet of the site or hot wallet for payments has fill up it will definitely be instant ,the OP case is actually vexation so that he gets emotional and as he wrote that the OP play again and then lost ,that triggers someone's emotional pressure so that he declare a scam
I don't know bitvest if make a withdrawal it maybe can canceled by player and play again ,but should have waited for payment because maybe the owner was away so it didn't fill up hot wallet ,in this case every gambler maybe equally vexation because waiting is a very boring thing but have to be patient and keep calm

You downplay it way too much.

Bitvest has been doing this for YEARS. It's not something that has occurred just as a one-off or anything. And not to mention the hot wallet being empty issue that is more important than the signature campaign issue.

It's not a scam as of yet but it's definitely close to that territory. A business that constantly fails its clients in delivering outcomes is not a good business at the very least.

They have been very late to make the signature campaign on most of the occasions but they did at some point even nkw people received the payouts but being silent is what makes them to look bad in the eyes of community so they should open up or atleast appoint a representative to take care of this forum works.

OP wasn't even talking about the delayed campaign payments. lightlord paying the signature campaign participants has nothing to do with the thread. anyway, I also think there was no scam that happened and I still think OP was frustrated when he created this thread I should move on and find another gambling site that suits him best.

as for lightlord not being able to pay his signature campaign participants on time, (just like what LoyceV said on another thread) I think it's time for him to hire an escrow so the participants can be paid on time and not wait months before getting paid.

You are right, OP's main idea is not about the delayed payment of the campaign but it is about the empty hot wallet. It is not scam indeed, but it is all about lateness from lightlord to refill hot wallet. I dont know why once there is a complain about the hot wallet, then most people will connect it to the delayed payment of the campaign. It happens most of all the time.

I saw that campaign participants are already paid in their service thread and I think we should set aside that problem now.
lightlord also answered about the campaign late payments and will change it by means of escrow.

Regarding the scam accusation of OP according to title, it should be changed to "late payments or late refills". It became a click bait because of it and other members are worried about the Bitvest situation.

While the "hot wallet" issue has still no answers though you should inquire in the Bitvest (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1221154.0) thread about it. Perhaps you and the other players could also make an agreement about the date/time of refills or whatever they are called.

And I think there are often delays in payments which are not actually a scam, but if the delay in payments is very long, I think it's natural that some of them are worried and think it's a scam and can't blame them either.
and what I know is that Bitvest is one of the most popular and old gambling platforms in this forum, and lightlord also as far as I know has a good reputation.

It's a good idea to lock this thread if the problem has been resolved or has been paid for, to avoid unwanted things.

Gladly, @lightlord finally pays all of their participants at the right time. Hopefully, that can satisfy their participants receiving their 10 weeks payments. Not just paid in the Bitvest, but @lightlord also finished the payment in 777coin. Bitvest and 777coin are not a scam because @lightlord still paid his participants. Maybe their participants will see a change for the campaign, whether it continues or still paused for a while.

Good to know that it is only close to the territory of being a scam but not yet a scam, if that is the case why will OP raise a scam alarm as if Bitvest has already scammed him or her without providing any evidence to his claim, equally not responding to some fundamental question raise by members here.

This is interesting I did not know this was happening with those campaigns but as far as I know there have been delays in the past and the issue has always been resolved, so I think it is likely that this is going to be resolved soon as I doubt he is going to risk the reputation that he has created in the forum for years over something as simple as not paying the participants of their campaigns, so lets wait and see how this evolves.

Yeah, OP is worried about the empty hot wallet, chat mods irresponsible behavior , no rain and promo being offered at bitvest. I don't know why people keep on talking about the signature campaigns not being paid (Its paid now already) and therefore the focus on real issues are not addressed and they remain unfixed.
Just a suggestion that lightlord should assign a mod here who can respond to such queries, if he has no time himself.

Hot wallet to be empty in other to deprived players from cashing out instantly is a very bad strategy or scamming attempt and the should be discourage since Bitvest has over the years build good reputation here in the forum. I saw in the service section where participants signature campaign payment are being delay without intentionally on a regular basis which has led some DT members to Tag the owner account.

Can anyone get a hold of lightlord I have thousands of dollars tied up in winnings I cannot withdrawal and all I am getting is silence.  It’s extremely frustrating.   I’m an honest player and finally won something substantial and it will not allow me to cash out.    Idk how he can have a sight where he simply does not reply to support tickets or to players

OP, your main problem that noone here can't see any proof for you accusation. Bitvest is an old gambling site so proofs still be enough strong.
Where screenshots for mods offensive language, ah? The same with other accusations. To call service or a person a scammer is a serious charge, so you should have very strong proof for it.

And you don't show us anything. Weird enough. More like someone lost too much money (it's your own fault) and now this some kind of butthurt

If you have enough proofs about this accusation then best to jump into this thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365916.0

as other account files complaint about Bitvest and lightlord as well, maybe you can add some flavor and spice in that thread.,

But that is if you have enough Evidence , but if not then best to stay silent and talk nothing and lock this thread .

He cannot sustain it he has no plan of posting his proof, he has malicious intent to give Bitvest a bad image, yes there are past and ongoing complaints from some users but they are backed by proof while you create this thread without anything on it just to create FUD, if you have an opinion about Bitvest you should post it in one of the thread here and not create a thread based on your opinion.

It's true OP didn't present any evidence--and he should have if posting in this section--but there's already a discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365916) about Bitvest's hot wallet being periodically empty and lightlord's managerial neglect of his site.  I don't know if anyone linked to that thread yet, as I haven't read this thread in its entirety yet. 

I agree--gamblers need to be able to cash out when they want to, because what happens if they're not able to?  A lot of them will keep gambling until they lose.  I can't see into lightlord's head and don't know what he's thinking, but that would be a great way to scam if a gambling site's administrator was of the mind to do so.

If that's true, lightlord should be given negative trust by DT members (I've already done so for the campaign mismanagement).  Members can be trusted for years and then suddenly (or gradually) they're not.  And when they're not able to be trusted anymore, their trust page should reflect that.

In addition, I really think people should stop participating in the Bitvest campaign, not only because they're promoting a site that's nearly into scam territory but for their own sake.  Who knows when the next time lightlord is going to fall ill and be unable to make payments to his campaign participants for 10 weeks or more?

I'm not sure we can label them ^{lightlord and Bitvest&co} as scammers. yes, he is often in the considerable delay of payouts, but we still don't have a clear case where someone has been harmed for money. all the complaints we have seen here, in the end, however, were resolved positively. (I’m not sure what would have happened without community pressure)

of course, the management and administration of the whole business are desperate. For example, running a low-quality level promotion through a signature campaign probably brings them more damage than benefit. I mostly don't even read posts ^{as far as I can see I am not the only one} when I see Bitvest or 777 in user signature.

I didn't even get the urge to open their site and not to register there or use them. and it is certain that I would never recommend these two casinos to anyone.
its users should definitely be alerted to a slow withdrawal or any payments from there, for it may not be the basic problem but we cannot call it a scammer until it is clearly confirmed. there is a difference here in relation to 1xbit, Adkinsbet, betking etc...

Please don't put in my mouth words I didn't say, I haven't talked about "weekly post quota" anywhere here. I just said that Xanaxass has opened this topic to talk about withdrawing issues of the platform, then I think posting messages only about their signature campaign is a little bit off-topic and it would be more relevant and interesting to open a dedicated thread about this specific issue instead of derailing this one.