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Analyzing your site it's a new site no data yet on Alexa, you made a good decision of posting and promoting your casino here, but it will be much better and you will have a good advantage if you could get a copper account and hire an announcement designer to create a stunning introduction, it's a must to be competitive.

Wish you success on your venture here in Bitcointalk

Correct, with currently around 600 players

Just look Like A regular Scam Website. You Just Installed a script from Codecanyon. And Providing 1100 Points On Sign up to New Players, which is worth $1096 (According to Your Site). The Interesting thing is, In order to Withdraw, You asked players to deposit at least 250 Points which is worth $245. Claps For Your Nice Attempts. Please Hire Professional Scammers. Thank You

Scam website? Thats rather harsh as scams are normally judged on results and the owner of the site. The bonus is there merely to offer gameplay before a deposit. Its not sold as 'withdrawable'

And whats wrong with an installed script thats simple and works for both user and business?

Its people like you that don't give genuine guys a chance to perform and its a shame.

Calling me a scammer after one post on a related website is rude and uncalled for.

If you would like to test the site then feel free to make a deposit and play, if not then please show a little respect

By the way, if there is any constructive criticism or ways you think I could better the site, then I'm more than open to accept respectful feedback.

Thanks

Thank you for highlighting the withdraw amount discrepancy error - this has now been updated and minimum deposit and withdraw are set to $100 - 100 credits.

Bonus is now reduced to 500 on signup

100 for email confirmation.

Thanks

It would be better if you can provide proofs and screenshots to prove the accusation.

Though the site looks suspicious buts it considerable for a new website which has lots rooms for improvement. Good thing OP posted it here. I recommend to look the threads of your competitor here and improve your ANN thread.

Maybe this is what @naim027 meant. While I wouldn't call it a scam, it's a sign-up bonus that startup casinos generally offer and won't allow it to be withdrawn before the customer has deposited anything to play.

https://i.imgur.com/W9UajcX.jpg

I have 600 credits and have played. Unfortunately, the credit amount is not updated ontime after betting (I had to refresh several times). At first I thought my balance wasn't decreasing, so I kept playing a few times with big bets.

Looking at it and browsing through it, it's really not the type of gambling platform site that's mobile friendly, maybe you could work a little bit with those fonts that aren't necessary bigger as I see it distracts navigating the site especially those footers that should really have a smaller font size imo. Would be good if there would be some kind of demo account to try the poker game, just a suggestion on my part.

A newbie can be a genuine guy while an old member can be a scammer. But the problem is with your site. I haven’t checked yet but if it's a simple script, why would anyone believe that your casino have the money to payout if someone win a big hand? Do you have that money at all?
What's the max bet amount? Do you have enough fund for an winner of max bet? I doubt, if you are not investing on site development, you will not get people playing on your site.

When it's nothing but a script installed, that's expected. You can't expect much better.

Would you like to explain? How did you get so many players to play on the site?
The actual fact is that the site launched few times ago only? How did you managed to get so many players?
If i want to be honest, then there is no interest of mine to even check the site.
The OP looks pathetic and lacks information.
Too much unprofessionalism is being portrayed here.
Gain some knowledge and fix it asap OP.

Judging on the players that recently bet on your website, It seems that most of the are bots the way they display there full name. Names came from name generator available online and there bets is not realistic considering that your website is new. And also the games you provide is very limited and most of them are not from the typical game software provider.

Your logo too on top left corner is not scale to the header when viewed using mobile screen. And also maybe try to have a guest account login for your website so that people can easily try your website without doing a registration.

anyone can create a casino like this one with a logo like that was it created by a windows paint program?


with just so new casino, it wouldn't be impossible to have such players if he advertised it well but i didn't see any of its campaign in the forum. its domain registered this month and it's up and running this month as well. if a casino gambler will not look at reputation of a casino and how long it had been up in the business, they sure are going to be scam.

welcome to the forum , please keep answering the accusation about being scammer  because this is very important towards the community and your company as well.

Here is the ANN thread list of sites that uses the same script:
Zamabet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310725.0) = Dead
crypsino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214440.0) = Active
coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0) = Active
Satoshicasino.io (https://ninjastic.space/topic/5283572) = Active
bet42bet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311369.0) =Active
luckydragon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222674.0) = Dead
multicoingames (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5168872.0) = Dead

I guess there are still many other sites out there. Most of them turned into scam, and some of them are accused to have fake provably fair system and some others suspicious activities. I have to agree with naim027 that all sites uses this cheap script is not recommended at all. No offenses to a new site, but we have been warned with the cases of the older sites.

It's a bit annoying, especially when you find out that a casino-grade script (which has to cater to multiple players) only costs $50 at codecanyon (https://codecanyon.net/item/casino-holdem-poker-game-addon-for-crypto-casino/27576197).


Wanted to add to your list, found some sites that have similar templates:
https://cryptocandy.casino
https://zilflip.com
https://faircrypto.net

That makes sense enough why anyone should not go there and deposit the money with almost confirmed risk of losing the deposit. Apart from that, OP's anger in response to "scam" was something not professional way to talk with the community.
This days it has been an easy way to scam by starting a casino with small investment. I wouldn’t tag OP for this, will monitor this thread. I would strongly suggest anyone not to deposit here.

I am visiting your site and see your site is different than the other gambling sites. After I registered, I saw that I got 500 credits and after I verified my email, I got another 100 credits so the total is 600 credits. So with that credit, I can use it to play some games without depositing some money. But maybe you can reduce the minimum deposit from 100 credits equal to $1 to $25-$50 so that will not be a problem for a small gambler.

Honestly, I have never registered and bet on the BetABit.Casino site, because I am very sensitive to the name of the gambling site called BET, BET.

Yes, it's your right to ask the members in this forum about the BetABit.Casino site, which is definitely the reputation of every gambling site, for that please verify about the two sites below, if it's part of you say and if it's not part of you also say.

Topic: BETABIT.co.in - The Bitcoin Betting Exchange - Now in beta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665301.0)

Topic: Betabit.org - PvP 2 Minute Jackpot & 30Max - Coinflip - Roulette - 0% Fees (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5121682.0)

It looks like the name of the second site has a Betabit smell, so you have to verify about both, The goal is of course Reputation in the future.

beware kind of casino have platform like this : If you got winnings then you deposit to make withdraw , you loss both  . That is all my thoughts

Hi, both the above sites are nothing to do with us. Betabit.casino is the name

600 already playing the site is only up for two weeks but not yet indexed by Alexa this is surprising although there were reports of new casinos using a bot and even fake bets, we already have a thread about this and it's been a practice for a very long time, there's a lot of question about the script and the deposit already, I hope OP can handle this effectively this is not a good start.

Op, what makes your casino stand out from tons of others? The market is very competitive now, and using a common script (along with a name that's so similar to those of other casinos) probably isn't gonna do it. It's good that you have provably fair games and anonymous gambling, but I don't think it's enough to attract users these days. Have you considered launching a signature campaign to promote your casino on the forum, for instance?
Also, I think I saw you mention having around 600 users. Can you prove this information? It's actually a lot of users for a new crypto casino, and if it were visible somewhere on the website, it would be useful.

The ANN presentation is lacklustre op. Checked the site out and observed that the design is simple and bland while the performance is decent on mobile and desktop. I like the diverse variety of games available to play.

An FAQ section addressing important queries(Minimum deposit, Minimum withdrawal etc) needs to be added asap.

Tried withdrawing my winnings, but I couldn't thanks to the 100 credit deposit requirement which is a bummer. I advise getting rid of this requirement completely op.

Its a good idea to have a FAQ section, ill try getting this added asap.

And regarding withdrawing the credit bonus on sign up. I'm sure that there is no casino on this earth will just hand out free money without the user making some type of deposit. I'd like to see a model like that!

Perhaps from the comments it sounds like scrapping the sign up bounus may be a better idea going forward.

Just take that as constructive criticism mate and just deliver the answer what they need to Hear.

This is normal for a New casino to face multiple question because the forum/members are more concern about the outcome of your business inside bitcointalk so expect more like this.

But the thing is if how you will handle to manage answering and proving they are wrong.

____________________________________________________

Welcome to Bitcointalk and Please be a Legit and worth trusted gambling site .

Means that you have less experiences in this online gambling industry. There are many sites that lets you withdraw money from free bonuses like faucet or other giveaways without deposits. As long as the user do not do any abuse, why do you require them to deposit to withdraw the winning from the bonus? You have to learn about how to give bonus and how to avoid abuse. The most used requirement is "wagering or rollover requirement" of the bonus before users are able to withdraw.

I don't think that including a deposit requirement in a promotional bonus is the best option. Such tactics are typically used by scam platforms (fake exchanges, casinos...). They will first lure you with a tempting bonus and then require a deposit to unlock the bonus.
As far as I am aware, most casinos have wagering requirements on bonuses, which is what I believe would be a better solution.


Yes, perhaps that's the best option. It's not really a "Sign up bonus" if you have to deposit to receive it. You might want to research more in detail how other casinos handle this.

Perhaps I'll use the Faqs page to better explain all this, thanks for the heads up

You are completely missing the point here. Your explanations regarding the deposit requirement in the FAQ section won't solve anything since crypto gambling sites focus on wagering requirements(Not deposit requirements).

If you don't scrape the deposit requirement completely and replace it with some wagering requirement, your site will be considered a scam by everyone op.

This is something we avoid, in the past we have gambling casinos making a mandatory deposit before they allow withdrawal and they turn out to be scams, it's automated they gave you withdrawal let you play and win, and before you can withdraw they want you to deposit first, you have to differentiate yourself from this scam casinos and you have to prove that you are here to be a player in the Crypto gambling industry.

Thanks for all your comments so far, you have all given me plenty to think about.

Faqs page now created as requested

https://www.betabit.casino/pages/Faqs

Signup bonus removed.

hi admin, if you remove this how do you attract more registrants?
I think for a new gambling site the registration bonus can attract more players

if you guys have other strategies then that's great, I wish your site success :D

Can't comment now about the actual experience. Let's see while the site is progressing.

As far as the deposit requirements are concerns, there are some cases in the past wherein scam sites ask for required deposits before the withdrawal. Users should be free to withdraw without another deposit on top of their usual deposits. If that's about promotions or bonuses, a wagered requirement is enough but should also be realistic to achieve.

Members will still have mixed feelings about your site even with your present deposit and withdrawal condition, $100 minimum deposit and withdrawal is still on the high side, I will suggest you lower it no deposit or withdrawal condition to attract new players to your site since you are new.

Yes, I agree. At least that is what I would do for now to increase the number of users at the site. Lowering the minimum deposit and withdrawal amount will allow players to test the website without risking significant funds.

As per your FAQ page, you have max bet amount limit $1,000.
Does the multiplier/payout matter? Do you let users bet $1,000 and win x500 on slot which will be worth $500,000 win?
If you can cover that high amount, I wonder how much is your bankroll?
If you have huge bankroll, then I wonder why do you chose to buy this cheap script?

This is a good question, asking a new gambling site about their capability to pay players who won huge amount of money, and this will be depend on the fairness of this site. Does anyone here already try to gamble on their site? It looks normal to me and its good that you gamble here anonymously, is there any chance that you’ll ask for KYC later on?

Question regarding liquidity is a good one. I have been investing in various cryptos for the last 10 years. My current bank roll is close to 10 bitcoins.

However understanding the nature of a casino, you will realise that the chance the you will deposit $1000 off the bat, bet one max bet spin on a slot wheel and hit the jackpot is rather unlikely, however there is liquidity there and I would pay it.

However I am am sure by that point that there will be some unfortunate players that lose in order to pay the players that win. Just like buying and selling with trading. All the concepts are the same, there has to be a winner and a looser.

The casino takes the slice in the middle, just like an exchange or bank, its fair and everyone is happy.

Not sure why any casino or financial site should just be expected to hand out free money to everyone!

All in all I can't please everyone, but in order to make an honest review, people should back there comments with trying out the site instead of just name calling.

In fact, you actually have me thinking that maybe its a good idea to lower the maximum bet amounts to a more reasonable level so that my bank roll can keep healthier.

I think perhaps a $250 max bet is more reasonable as opposed to $1000?

just curious here, is this a one-man project?

by the way, i agree that people should not judge this casino as early as now as no complaint yet for any withdrawal or anything. but why is it only in btc when you withdraw while you accept several alts for deposits? why not a player can withdraw also the same alt as what he deposits? i think it is unfair to the player if he will deposit in TRX and then withdraw in BTC, because the fees in BTC is quite expensive as compared to TRX? just saying...

https://i.imgur.com/60aqFC7.png
https://www.betabit.casino/pages/Faqs

Regarding withdrawing in Bitcoin, i use coinpayments.net for the transactions and the api im using seems to only pay in bitcoin, no other reason unless anyone out the can help me adjust the api differently to allow for different currency withdrawals.

Yes currently one man, however I do have a service team ready and available for support should it grow. To be honest though, once everything is set correctly and faqs page is finished, everything should practically run by itself. Maybe would need a couple of guys offering support via email, not sure. Obviously if there was a massive spike then I would have to take a more structured approach regarding employees.

I would suggest everyone to avoid using this website that is using exact same website template like some other script betting website like some fake provable scams.
Not sure if this is a scam or they just purchased this template, but it looks very cheap and unprofessional.

You can find some of the clone websites on my list of casinos for avoiding: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283832.0

	Casino to Avoid			Reasons for avoiding
	1. Coins777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229664.0)			Using the 777Coin name, Scam accusations, Fake provably fair, Negative feedback, Death threats, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
	2. Satoshi Casino (https://ninjastic.space/topic/5283572)			Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
	3. Crypsino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214440.0)			Clone of Coins777, Fake provably fair, Scam accusations, Negative feedback, Withdrawals not working, Ponzi
	4. Bitstarz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=651730.0)			Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, Not paying
	5. 1xbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1669653.0)			Many Scam Accussations, Negative feedback, locking users funds
	6. 888STARZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250346)			Scam Accussations, 1xbet owned, locking users funds
	7. Wixiplay (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261052.0)			Fake provably fair, Negative feedback
	8. Cryptodice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264759.0)			Negative feedback, Not responding to scam accusations, Satoshidice old name
	9. Megadice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1828431.0)			Open Scam accusations, Owner not responding
	10. Safedice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868275.0)			Negative feedback, Owners are not active and not responding
	11. Betmatch (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5029854.0)			Banned from forum, Scam accusations, holding payouts, bad support
	12. ZigZagsports (https://web.archive.org/web/20201001001903/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279105.0)			Website not working 404 error, Changing domains RU
	13. Betking.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287374.0)			Scam accusations, Hacked, Lost investors funds
	14. AceDBets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230348.0)			issues with withdrawal, slow support, website not working
	15. 1xbit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3906360.0)			many Scam accusations, negative feedback, bad support
	16. wbet7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2607019.0)			scam accusations, not active in bitcointalk forum
	17. BitcoinCasino.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0)			scam accusation
	18. CyberBet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146746.0)			scam accusations, negative trust feedback, not active in forum anymore
	19. Kawbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5227494.0)			connected with 1xbet/1xbit casionp group who allready have bad reputation
	20. Zamabet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310725.0)			Clone of satoshiCasino, crypsino and coins777 scams, Fake provably fair, Plagiarism, Negative feedback
	21. Adkinsbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.0)			Dead website, Accusations in forum, left the forum, bet manipulations, purchased shilling accounts
	22. PayoutCrypto.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318112.0)			Suspicious casino with cloned games, no license and only with discord support
	23. Gamebets.website (https://ninjastic.space/post/56385807)			Suspicious casino with cloned games, no license and only with discord support, new domain

Calling me a scam after all the responses I've given and the very fact that I came here in the first place to openly discuss all these issues and concerns is extremely unfair and out of order. Slander without evidence is suable in a court of law. Please provide evidence.

Being a new casino with very familiar website template from other known casinos (which ended up bad), can really give bad impression.
However, you can always prove your site is legit only by time. So long you are paying everyone and no complaints, you can build your credibility.
And once you can afford, maybe get the gambling license and also improve the site so it will not be compared to others.
Take those as a challenge to improve your site. In time, you will gain trust if you are sincerely motivated to move forward in this business.

I understand you ,OP,but it's normal for the gamblers to be suspicious,when it comes to new crypto casinos,especially new crypto casinos,that are using a well known and cheap gambling script.
Perhaps you have good intentions,but you will have to put the effort to build trust and prove that you are legit.
I don't like the approach of having the same script/template as other casinos.You can't stand out from the crowd this way.
I'm not sure that you have 600 active players in your brand new crypto casino website.
Seems like the "fake it until you make it" business approach to me.There's nothing necessarily wrong with that.A lot of small businesses begin with exaggerating their success,until they become really successful.

If you do not like what they describe, you do not have to feel anything and still work for your business because it is normal to see what other people say about your business that looks similar to another gambling site. You can prove to them that you are not like those trying to steal other people's money because you are really concerned with your business and your members and want to grow your business like the other successful gambling site. Time will tell and the process will not lie to you while you do not think much about them. It is like you have more power to run your business and give your members the best services.

If I am going to be completely honest with you OP I think your website is very unprofessional even if you put "Provably fair. All our games are provably fair. We do not cheat." I don't think people would trust your website with the looks and design as well as how you convince users. I really don't think people would play on your website.

In this way your casino will survive , if you continues to prove them wrong because there are several casino also here that at first faces same issues and accusation when they are starting to present their site here but eventually? when they completely maintain their legitimacy on what way? By proving them wrong from your costumers/players satisfaction , because the most important part of having a casino site is that your gamblers will experience best things when they are playing.
and when time comes? sure everything will be at good place. take those accusation as Challenge and not a threat .

No one said that you were a scam they just warned users that since your website is not good enough and unprofessional looking, you can consider all the comments here a constructive criticism in order to improve your website and probably create a good sports betting and casino site, user here just follow what you have said on your title we are just sharing thoughts here actually.

I also agree that we should not judge too early but we cant deny the fact that almost all sites that comes to this forum with the same software/script are scammers.
I doubt that there will be real gamblers who are willing to deposit in this site to test withdrawal.
Based on the leaderboard, there are many players with big profit  (top player with $210,000 profit and many others with $10k-100k profit).
Are those players in the leaderboard real?

But this is a really bad start for his casino, he means well but somewhere along the way he made the wrong moves because he did not do enough research on how to properly set up one, one of the issues is the template, gamblers will not feel at home on a gambling site that looks like the one that scam them in the past, anyway as long there are no accusations yet and he is responding to all issues he still good.

The script that you're currently using is completely messed up here, there have been lots of accusations before connected to that. That is why users here prefer not to play on those sites that uses the same script, as most of them turns to be a scam.
I think if you want your casino not to be avoided, better use different script and build your trust. In my opinion, your site has a very simple design yet there are some flaws such as the logo.

TBH, your website doesn't really make me feel like I'm on a gambling website, but it was more like I'm surfing through another forum after leaving this one. Anyways, when you already know the problems now that you're facing with your site, isn't it better to just focus on changing the script and making it a completely different (and unique) website if possible, so to give your users a unique experience instead of trying to ask for evidence?

OP may have a good intention of creating a gambling casino but the template is questionable making him a suspect to be an old dev using this old script and he ends up defending the gambling site, this is one lesson to always check the template that you are using, this is also one of the issues when buying a script.

There's no need to take it personally, because that's just how things work here. I don't know how long you've been in the business, but you have to understand that we've seen a lot of different scams over the years. The script that you're using doesn't help in your case because many members here recognize it and associate it to previous scam websites. So, don't be too hard on people who are just being overly cautious.

He can always prove them wrong if he will continue to improve his site. You can't blame them for getting that feel because a lot had been abandoned and exited in this industry using the same script. If he is here for long term, then show it by making progress on the site.

But, I am curious, @OP, is the biggest winner - Ms Kaelynn Mann a real person who won this 251680 credits, which translates to $251680? Or just a test bot? You need to be transparent here so people will not accuse you of faking the numbers here.

Ms Kaelynn Mann - is a test bot that was used to get rid of the 0's on the site - hopefully someone real will replace her very soon!

I've had some interest from a few players over the weekend - some good some bad.

Updates

Shiba Inu has now been added as a deposit and withdraw method - (I just had to add it, love the coins potential!)

Previously withdraws were only in Bitcoin however I believe there is a possibility to withdraw in other currencies as per deposit methods.

Theme changed from dark to light - maybe that will lighten up the look a little, who knows.

Bet limits were also reduced to a lower amount of $250 as requested by a few of you - once player liquidity comes on board then this will increase.

Minimum deposit amount was reduced to $50 as requested - same for withdrawals.

Also made a few videos of gameplay on a few of the main games, just so you guys can see how it all operates etc.

Hope this meets closer with you guys and your recommendations - look forward to seeing some of you as players soon...

Don't hope instead work for it ASAP to clear some points here and also this will make enlightenment to other opinion here.

Normal in every site so best thing will come at least from these experiences .

great coin choice as the potential of this Meme coin is larger than others.

again make this one possible because now that Bitcoin is heading towards ATH again ,surely transaction fees will increase very high .

Looking good but you are still missing something and that is a copper membership it will take out restriction like enabling posting images and pictures and you will gain the trust of players here if you still have the budget go for a good thread designer, I'm sure the discussion here will get better as you prove that you are serious in establishing and make your casino competitive.

In my opinion, the sites improve without trying to prove to further test each casino by applying our own strategies we will make an investigation into a few key points that show us whether a casino is trustworthy is an important criterion. Another critical issue is the security of a casino, where if we check whether the link between the website and the software is completely encrypted and secure its credibility will increase.

Both email encryption and payment encryption setup and tested.

Site is also running a valid ssl certificate. No fiat deposits are accepted on the site and no personnel information is required other than a valid email address.

Hope this settles your security question.

With the fact that you are a new gambling site with a script that has very bad history from all the previous sites, $50 as minimum deposit and withdrawal is still too high. Sorry to say but I believe no one will risk $50 to try and play in a new site like yours. If you want to gain good first impression and then gain good reputation, you should allow deposit and withdrawal as low as possible (lets say $5-$10). That's reasonable amount for most gamblers to risk when they want to try a new site.

Well said. Crypto gambling sites usually don't require any minimum deposits or small deposits such as $5 - $10 as you mentioned since they tend to focus more on wagering requirements when compared to deposit requirements.

Good thing here is that op keeps listening to our feedback and is making positive changes regularly though more positive changes are clearly necessary in my opinion.

The casino looks neat and has a very large selection of games. Actually, everything that should be has been proposed here. I like that it works very fast. However, I think that is because the graphics are not of a very high standard. Unfortunately, there is always something for something. ;) Good luck with your project!

I personally don't see $50 as a high risk amount of money and think $5-$10 isn't really enough to test. However I will test the waters on this one and be flexible. Ill work on getting all the numbers down. Maybe that way we can see a thousand deposits and go from there! Just don't really see how there is a real chance to make a decent profit with $5 but there is always a chance I suppose.

Anyway I'll update when the changes are made...

Thank you Sovie

I have to agree that lowering the min deposit may finally attract some users here to deposit and try the site.
Maybe, just make the wagering requirements like maybe x2 or whatever you deem is right and fair.
As you are just starting, you need to get the interest of these players. If they have good experience, they can always put a good word for the site.



$50 is not high risk for you, but remember, there are small time gamblers here where they see that $50 is already high risk.
So to get those small time rollers, you need to bend down regarding their request.
If they are happy, who knows, they will use your site again and again, at least create traffic on your site.

Whether $50 is a lot or not is quite relative. However, almost all players at the beginning try to risk as little as possible and usually it is less than $50 to start with. If the changes are a problem, maybe consider creating some promotion for new users. Free rolls, or even a small prize in crypto for the review of your platform.

Minimum deposits and withdrawals are now set to $10.

Thanks

I think this is a very good decision. Now, surely many more people will try to play in your casino. We all know it's best to have a whale playing, but small fish are also very important because if you have good feedback, they can attract bigger fish.. ;)

Necessary indeed because if they wont really be listening on whats the public or community been asking and also those criticisms then they wont really progress out.

New sites should really be listening on what public is been saying because the more it is enhanced or fixed or had some add up the more preferred it would be.
It is indeed a good thing that this site do really listens up.So keep it up!

Op did provide a generous sign-up bonus initially for new gamblers which he later got rid off. I guess he might introduce more promotions in the future if the site attracts decent traffic.

Awesome decision op. Great to see the speed at which you keep making positive changes which implies that you are working hard on improving your site through our feedback. Keep it up!

Also, I advise advertising the site through a signature campaign or bounty later on.

I definitely will upgrade on here - time isn't really my friend right now though, want to see some positive results before I progress...

Well done! I really like it!


Good luck with your progress!

I do not know if I can ask this question officially here (instead of in PM), but probably not only I can be curious about the answer.
Was the casino script specifically written for BetABit.Casino or was it purchased through a multi-license somewhere? If it is an external (commercial) product, is it possible to know where it was purchased?

It looks like this site is a scam. The generous sign-up bonus and faucet amounts made me suspicious, but I was not completely sure until this happened.

https://i.ibb.co/S3VpY38/Screenshot-20211019-172042.jpg (https://ibb.co/hm2vQmj)
 (https://imgbb.com/)

Had a balance of 1225 credits which was completely withdrawn sometime back. Honestly, this didn't surprise me at all. I advise all gamblers not to invest anything in this site.

Yes - Everyone who signed up with the initial bonus - your bonuses have been removed as per the change on the sign up bonuses - no deposits were removed from any user - only the sign up bonus.

Please read the previous messages - this has all been discussed and updated on our faqs page.

Please stop slandering me for being a scam unless you make a deposit and are unable to withdraw.

You all complained about the signup up bonus being too much and a scam - and now when I remove it I am a scam too - cant win with some people.

Good To hear that you removed the Sign-up Bonus system. Since Players have to play with points, not with selected currency. So it's better to remove the sign-up Bonus.

I just Visited your website again. And Saw, Dice Has Maximum Win Chance of 50% And Payout is 0.8 at 50% win chance.

Most of the Dice Has a 98% Win chance And the payout is about 1.01x for 98% Win Chance.

Could You Please explain?

Well, Maybe I can Answer You if anyone Doesn't Mind. The Script Name Is Stake -Online Gaming Platform Script is available at https://codecanyon.net/item/stake-online-casino-gaming-platform-single-page-application/25370124 (https://codecanyon.net/item/stake-online-casino-gaming-platform-single-page-application/25370124)

Thanks.

I am seeing you have a long way to go here to gain trust from players. But if you continue to answer and not silent about it, in time, they may finally trust the site. Just open your communications to the community and be transparent. If you are not screwing anyone, then, you're good and can build your reputation.

Thank you Cav, I'm trying to do exactly that - be transparent. I'm not coming with massive sales pitches or lies about my product.

What I'm offering works and I've been open with you guys from the start - I've changed many things as per your requests, but there are always 2 sides to the coin and unfortunately not everyone is always happy.

However I'm trying to take a different approach and be as open as possible, however ultimately I have a business to run and some decisions are tougher than others but that's business!

The fact that I'm here means that I'm ready to back my site and offer the best I can, and if people can't trust that then I cant do more.

The scrutiny has definitely slowed down on this thread barring a few that shout scam for every blip! However don't see many of those speaking earlier trying out the site so not sure what to do next.

I kindly ask that if there is any problem with the site, payments, discrepancies, or whatever - can you PLEASE WRITE ME AN EMAIL FIRST or at least try to resolve the issue and give me a day or 2 to resolve before screaming scam all over the internet and ruining everything good that I am trying to build.

Thank you

Quote - Good To hear that you removed the Sign-up Bonus system. Since Players have to play with points, not with selected currency. So it's better to remove the sign-up Bonus.

I just Visited your website again. And Saw, Dice Has Maximum Win Chance of 50% And Payout is 0.8 at 50% win chance.

Most of the Dice Has a 98% Win chance And the payout is about 1.01x for 98% Win Chance.

Could You Please explain?

Dice has now been adjusted too payout 1.00x for 98% win chance.

Numbers were initially set wrong - apologies

Glad that you are hearing to the community and acting accordingly.
But it should have been your responsibility at first to develop the FAQ page before you launch the site.
It’s obvious for a gambling site to have a FAQ page for their site, so that all the new players find it easy to play on your site.
Now it’s time to do some good updates to the ANN post here in the forum.
Also don’t forget to run some beautiful campaign that will attract potential gamblers to the site.

Yes, he did willing to listen to the community which is good and will improve on how gamblers look at his gambling site, but he should include to the improvement of his gambling site is his account here by getting a copper account, since he promoted it here and his site improved by posting it here he should improve his account and his announcement as well.

Welcome to the forum.
The site is working fine (im using a mobile phone), fast and user friendly. I will register later to try your site.

Good thing you lowered it, because the previous set amount is not really convincing for gamblers to use your casino.

Yeah 10$ is fair enough specially for small time gamblers like Me in which only trying to find fun when gambling and getting out at any point so either win or lose i am withdrawing my funds as i don't wanna let my Money stays in gambling site after playing.


and Yes this is fast and user friendly in Mobile version so will be trying to play tomorrow in my gambling day.

Hopefully, that can give him a chance to grow and gain trust from people because he can hear what the community suggest. If he can still work hard for his site, sooner or later, he will get the benefits and start to make money from his business. If he thinks he needs more promotion for his site, he can start his first campaign to get more attention from people here to visit his site. It will not be a short term journey, especially it is about to grow his business because it will need time to achieve all of his plans.

Awesome. I like that you hear the community. keep doing hard work, and improve. Still, there is a lot of things to improve. First, You have to create a good logo. Your current logo is good. But not Adjusted with your site design. That's my opinion. About Win chance and payout, If you set 98% win chance and 1.00x payout at it. Your house edge will be 2%. So it's better you clarify how much the house edge is.

Thank You.

Well sometimes when the sites start up, so as not to make a mess, they only give a Welcome bonus to a certain number of participants, if so, many will do it quickly, however if you remove the Welcome bonuses you just have to notify it and that's it. .

Many sites that start out like this are victims of abuse by some users who multi-account, however if you do things right you have nothing to worry about.

Below is the email that everyone this affected received:

Dear Player,

BetABit.Casino decided to remove the initial sign up bonus offering credits from a select number of accounts due to a number of factors. Faucet rewards have also been temporarily disabled.

If this has not affected you then please just ignore this email.

Those affected will have there balances reduced for the exact amount of bonus offered and any profit derived from the bonus.

Understandably this will cause some upset, however please understand that players were trying to abuse the offering, which has resulted in the change. We further believe that 'bonuses' make it more difficult for players to manage there accounts and wagering limits and as strong supporters of responsible gambling, we believe that players have a more 'realistic' gaming experience without the use of a bonus.

However this decision may change in the future please accept our apologies for any inconveniences caused.

The Casino will continue to operate normally and you can check for any updates on our faqs page of any changes in the future: https://www.betabit.casino/pages/Faqs.

Thank you for playing at BetABit.Casino

Support
Https://www.betabit.casino

How come! You have offered sign up bonus, people joined and played with the bonus and made a return but now you are looking for seizing the fund they made. Lol. This would be a stupid decision in my opinion. It would be better if you stop offering sign up bonus and no changes for who already have claimed. Otherwise, that will be a total dishonest behavior.

I'd like to think that admin is a newbie and do not have experience playing in other gambling casinos, he is in a bad start he is in a hurry to regain his reputation, and this decision will put him in bad light he should not in a hurry to make a decision that will eventually backfire, you are right to let them who claimed play and just stop the signup bonus from now on.

To be honest, the website design makes it look more like a blog than a casino. I suppose this is the template that come with the script by default! I suggest you to hire a professional designer to make your casino stand out from others that use the same script.

I also suppose your website uses some kind of geolocation tools which detects the location of the visitor and automatically provide him with the appropriate translation! I urge you to get rid of it. The translation to my language is very poor to say the least.

The appearance of the template is unattractive and unpleasant to look at because it is quite plain meaning not attractive at all, and what is clear is that they do not do it professionally how a gambler will feel at home if the display is like this.
Because they will see in terms of comfort and also the game there.

So there are not many slot games and only 3 slots available at the moment?
Will the team add more providers for the slots?

I can't help it but OP you haven't put much work into your ANN, to be honest, and there are too many points required to withdraw the money a player on the website as a user above said and explained, so that's a downside to the website for users who don't or can't bet that amount.

I will suggest you create a new ANN and Change that point system into rewards rather than Conditions.

Because the website is made from a ready to go script, not much he can do to improve the website. He may be able to change the color scheme but I do not think he can make a significant change to make it attractive.


I doubt they will be able to add 3rd party providers, at least there is no site which use the same script that add 3rd party games. What I know is that they can add more games from the script developer only by buying add on games.

I will not disagree with you. Although, even with all of these shortcomings and critiques being observed, he can turn this point of events into opportunities to make improvements on his works and ways of doing things as well. Hopefully he will take this positively and things better out of it.

I see the OP's statement that he is ready to upgrade here but don't know if this will improve views or something and they want to see the results first rather than improving the site.

Meaning it's pretty clear they don't have a great designer to cover this, if this added game has to be a buy then I think it's going to be tougher for the team to do, but I'd like to know the next transparent statement from the OP.

Reason why they ask to deposit first is to avoid the sign up bonus being abused. If it's your site and you provide sign up bonus then they withdraw it after getting the bonus. For small time gamblers, credits needed to deposit is a bit high in my opinion. Wonder if it could be changed.

I always suggest that to newly launched sites so that people can test the game first before depositing money. On being a mobile friendly site is also a must now since many people prefer to gamble using mobile devices before gamblers can use their laptops or computers when at home.

We do understand why they asked players to make a deposit first, but as many have noted, this trick is often used by scam casinos to steal a player's money. This is not a good way to prevent bonuses from being abused.

But, this isn't even the main issue anymore. If you read their last post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365927.msg58232727#msg58232727), they decided to remove the initial signup bonuses and faucet rewards. Worse still, they plan to take away bonuses they have already distributed and reduce balances for any profits derived from the bonus. This is bad news for honest players on their platform and only demonstrates how inexperienced and incompetent they are in the gambling industry.

This would be a stupid move that could backfire on them, as Little Mouse and Saisher have already stated.

Trying to reduce on whats already been credited? that sucks big time and that for sure leave that negative impression which would really lead into failure of their business.

They shouldnt have touched that even though there are changes in rates/rules/terms because that will surely backfire on them.
Dont know on what they do have in mind and they do really made out some huge mistake on here.

I imagine that all the people who received the email are people who are cheating, right?

but in that case wouldn't it have been better for you to let the people who managed to make a profit continue with the profit and just change the bonus rules so that in the future this kind of cheating doesn't happen again?


well, your reputation can start to be questionable the instant you send an email saying you are taking people's profits because there was a bonus cheat incident

Guys please understand that there is 2 sides to the bonus argument and either way there will be unhappy people.

The move where bonus was removed affected only 8 players who never deposited a single cent and ironically of those affected, many stated that the bonus offering was a scam in the first place but still wanted a chance to get free money - that's really the scam!

So now the site gets punished for 'listening' and 'taking action' on 'player' feedback - ok

Ultimately I'm offering a site where you can gamble your crypto safely, simply and easily. Many complications have been avoided in order to keep things simple.

Some will like it, some won't, however I can assure you that there are people already using the site and not 1 single player has had any issues with deposits or withdrawals.

All players that use the site clearly have a link to this forum on the faqs page.

Anyway on another note, I'm happy in Bitcoins recent performance & crypto on the whole, nice solid ending to the year shaping up - lets hope that prices stay on the up.

Great weekend guys  :)

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Additions:

Updates to our faqs page regarding coin acceptance and deposits and withdrawals etc.

Also changed the game background on most of the games - hope this responds well with you guys and gives it a better feel.

Working on the logo but I'm struggling with the coding with the script so you will have to be patient on that one!

Raffles are going to be introduced for every day of the week as well, so I would invite you all to try your luck for a few bucks because potentially there are some big payouts to be had if we can drive some volume up together.

Ah, I also forgot to mention the affiliate program which may be of interest to a few of you which would definitely work well for both of us.

Regarding the affiliate program - just open an account as normal - no need to deposit if your not looking to play - go to our faqs page to see where you can find your affiliate link and details of payouts etc.

Please let me know if you have any questions.



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Take the suggestions and opinions here as constructive criticisms. I've also checked on your site and to be honest, there are lapses and incomplete information. It would be better if you have posted more about it instead of posting the site itself so everything would be clear and not suspicious for readers. However, it's a good thing that you're trying to improve your site and recognize the problems.

Trying to reduce the credit that's being needed to deposit before you can withdraw that's what I am saying and nothing about reducing thw bonus that they will give. I also understand that this trick is used to scam honest players since I have gambled in trusted casinos which I received bonus but didn't have to deposit so that I can withdraw the funds instead they asked us to meet the wager requirements before I can withdraw. That also means many people won't be attracted if there are decisions made and then discontinued what has been started because of some issue like that which they shouldn't have done that made it questionable.

Kudos to OP , He constantly complying to the good advises sent here in His ANN Thread for the betterment of Their Site.

and with all those actions it looks like the Team is willing to completely adopt to the forum needs though changes may take time and cannot be done overnight as they are a New gambling site.

Hope continues response OP and dedication to lure More bettors  from this forum and also outside Bitcointalk .

If @OP can still take the suggestion and opinions from us, I am sure he will have a chance to make his site bigger and get more members who will play on his site. We always want to see the team be active in their thread so that if members get a problem, it can be solved as soon as possible and that can help members. But we also understand that the update will need time so we need to wait for some time and they will tell the update us here.

Hi Guys,

Logo now updated and mobile look coding issue is resolved, so it should look and feel much better now.

There is also now a system bar on the top of the site showing online, bet total and last winner.

Hi, Thanks For hearing us. I think Your logo should be more professional. Your Website background color is white. I think your logo background color should be white so it is mixed up with your website.

Also, I just saw there is a promotion that said 'Be active in chat and take a chance to get up to 100 credits in reward'.
But, there is no chat room.

Thanks.

The new logo on your website does not look good to me. Here is a screenshot of what your website looks like when viewed from my side.

https://i.imgur.com/vgovvIH.png

The logo is barely recognizable and the dimensions are wrong. Also, I do not think it fits well with the color scheme.

While it is good that improvements have been made since the time that your site was first posted here in the forum, I think that you could do better with these aspects you have mentioned that have changed. Just like others, I agree that your logo is one of the things that should be reassessed since this is crucial not just to please the eyes but as the representation of your whole brand.

@Betabit.casino, it might be a good idea to change the tagline on your website.


Your casino is neither a "top" nor a "trusted" one (yet), so this may seem a bit misleading and deceptive.

May be an idea is "you trust me and i trust you"? :)

I can`t say that i`m ready to trust to unknown casino my money. $10-50 is the maximum i ready to loose. If i want to play $100-500 - i`m choosing an old casino with clear reputation. If we are talking about $1000+ - i need verification and licence.

Obviously its their way to attract gamblers.

But I agree, the casino is pretty new and doesnt prove anything yet to be called "trusted" since it takes time and effort to build a good reputation. Well, anyway there's a room for improvement and I can see that op is doing his best.

It seems that's true. There is another question, though, whether his "best" is really enough...
Launching a successful and profitable online casino is not as easy as some think and requires much more work than just registering a domain and installing a pre-made script. It is much more complex and requires highly skilled knowledge of the company’s niche, good planning and most of all, a lot of money. You need a detailed plan of action. Otherwise, the success will be short-lived and you will not make it to the top of the pile.

Interesting thread, I decided to take a leap of faith and try out the site.

Mixed feelings on the forum but my experience was straight forward, made a profit and withdrew no problem. Used shiba to deposit $100 bucks worth, made a profit of $300 bucks and withdrew with no issues at all.

Greatest thing ever that i was paid back out in shiba and the price had gone up 25% so my payout was worth much more than what i started with.

This site is legit

Yeah, I see. What's even more interesting is that this is your first post here since you have just registered.


It would also be legit to ask you to show your withdrawal transaction to prove your claim.

Regarding Alexa rank, as you can see the site is starting to get some engaging traction which is positive: https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/betabit.casino

Well done to those who took advantage of this weekends Shiba rise, my own crypto portfolio isn't doing too bad at the moment either.

I hope the logo is now better for you guys?

Still would appreciate some positive reviews from those who have used the site mainly with deposits and withdrawals because that's what's really important here and its the only way players will gain that trust factor.

Good week to all who seek success.

Decodx
I would if i didnt have to pay this site to post an image. Anyway I have my money so im happy.  Both deposit and withdraw was visible on blockchain.

Oh regarding me being new here to Bitcoin Talk? Yes it seems like a great site to share opinion and check out a few things crypto, however the more I read, the more i realise how negative people are. I linked to this site from betabit.

Regarding betabit, yeh the site doesnt look the greatest but the games work and if you win you get paid out so not sure what everyones issue is here especially if they havent even thrown 50 quid in to check it out at least.

People have a habit of talking without acting! Its wrong if you slander someones business without being a customer first. If you dont want to be a customer then thats ok too but why try and ridicule someone who is trying to make something work? At least he tries, many dont, he also pays(at least in my experience), many dont!

I will use the site again in the future, i also havent seen anyone who has deposited that couldnt withdraw

Sure seems like a shill to me.

Well done so far you are doing great you are listening and taking notes on feedbacks, positive or negative, it's only a matter of time before you gain a lot of players, it's not easy building up loyal followers, and players you have to be transparent and ready to take advice but I notice that you still not wearing a copper account, I'm sure everyone here will agree with me that this is important for your own benefit.

If you have a big event or promotion to attract more players you can post widgets, images to attract more players, consider this as a must.

Nope, not really. You should try browsing the website with different browsers yourself to see what happens.

This is how I see it:
https://i.imgur.com/nbFWibo.png

By the way, I noticed that your website loads very slowly, so you might want to take note of that as well.
There are some online tools that can help you identify the cause of the problem, such as GTmetrix (https://gtmetrix.com/) or Google PageSpeed Insights (https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/).

https://i.imgur.com/6owS8IL.png
https://gtmetrix.com/reports/betabit.casino/Liks3Ejx/

Usually, that is related to the code and image because sometimes, if the image has a big or medium size, that can make the site load slowly. @OP can start checking his site, all of the pages on his site using the online tools to know what needs to be fixed.

SEMRush is a good online tool to check his website performance and I suggest he use the paid service as the paid service gives everything he needs. Or, if he has a team capable of checking the website performance, he can ask them to check it and fix it.

Really sucks when you do access a site which is very slow to load up in terms of images or the entire interface even though you do have fast internet which is actually a huge turn off for those people who are tending to access the site which means that they would really be needing to fix it first before
making some full offering or launch in the market so that it would really be able to avoid those criticisms but its good that theres a community
which could really make out some test and make out some suggestions via those complaints.

IMO, you should hire to design the website and change the layout. The site look likes a free layout and is also one of the indication players will not gonna play because they see the website is not really good. How do they see? one of the indications we can see like on log-in panel the logo image background is not transparent so is not merge with the panel color. That's just from a small detail, just want to share my though ~XD

The site loads is comparable to other faster websites but not for a gambling/casino website.

Unfortunately, there's no to less improvement happened since op made a post here regardless of suggestions to improve the website UI.

Yes, that is true. The first time I visited the web site, it took over ten seconds to fully load, and I am using a high speed internet connection. I think that is not good, and the OP should know that anything over a few seconds will result in visitors leaving.

OP, if you are serious about your business then you must hire a professional designer.
I understand that this is a one man business and maybe you have a limited budget (nothing wrong in that) but hiring a designer won't cost you too much and it will pay back in no time. You can post an offer on the services section.
Also, I advise you to rethink your decision regarding removing the sign up bonus.

Yeah  it would really be giving out bad impression once a user would really be having that hard time or bad experience on a site that he do tends to play.

They might really have visited out but for sure they would really be leaving directly without tending to to back again and find another place which
would give much better experience and this is how competitive the market is thats why as a gambling business owner then you should
really be mindful with these factors or else you would definitely fail.

A few questions:

1. Are you committed to having a No-KYC policy? This is a very pertinent concern of pretty much every crypto gambling player right now given that increasingly casinos are backtracking on such policy.

2. Any plans on improving site design in the near term future? I like the idea of a prediction market but quite honestly the design looks like it has been done in 30 minutes.

You dont have to pay anything, you can simply post the link of the image.


It is common to see any kind of feedback/comment, negative or positive can be used by the casino to improve. Even an old trusted casino is still receiving some negative comment.


First no one is slandering here, we are being suspicious which is a common thing especially if the site uses a software that is also being used by so many other sites and most of them turned into scam. Secondly, we are free here to give comment based on what we know, based on experience and based on some stories. Last but not least, kindly prove your transaction history so no one think that you are just a shill.

Yes, I am sure we have that experience in the past so we can suggest the website owner fix the problem or give him another suggestion. We want to help the website owner to have a better website that will make their customers comfortable while exploring and playing gambling games because once the customers can get that feeling, they will not move to the other websites. Having critics for the site is good for their website to know what they need to do to grow the site.

I am about to check this casino and would like to give my thoughts as being asked in the first post. But upon visiting this casino, it's completely blank page.

I've refreshed it and thought that it could be just my internet but no way, it's your casino that doesn't load and has a blank page.

I hope that the webmaster would aware of what's happening on your casino.

It works, tried several times and every time was ok. May be you`ve got the time than some improving were doing. But the design is awful. I even can`t scroll till down, my eyes really tired.
OP, if you want to get success - try to hire professional designer, it will improve your site several times at least.

I've checked it again when you've said that it works for you. But I don't think that it's not on me because I did tried it again and refreshed for so many times yet it's still blank.

As you've said, you can't scroll down so that means that it's still not working and they've got to fix that. Good to you that you've seen a glimpse of the design unlike to me, it's totally white blank.

There's even no words about informing their visitors that they're on a maintenance.

I meant that i can scroll down, but does not want to do it - the design is really terrible. And if you see the white blank - it is possible that you`ve seen the design because it is mostly some objects at the white background.

Alright, the website seems back again.

I can scroll the whole website and just as you guys don't like about the simplicity of the website because it looks dull. I do agree that it has to be improved if they want to be an eyecatcher of new customers.

Their navigation pane doesn't even have any other labels on it but only the home. I guess they'll just continue to improve it and we'll see if they'll take on the suggestions seriously.

Thanks for all your feedback so far regarding the site.

Regarding the speed - It feels pretty fast when accessing from the UK however I have noticed some heavy images on the site that may be able to compress which may increase user performance. I will work on this soon.

Regarding the design - I am reluctant to over invest at this stage due to a number of reasons:

1. I am am investor - yes I can make a profit from this site however there are greater opportunities with many of my other investments.

2. There has been a lot of hostile feedback and personal attacks for no reason from commenters - this does not give me excitement to invest.

3. Not enough active users on the site yet. Once this grows then there is no doubt that I will re invest back into the business to create a far greater user experience.

4. The navigation page only shows home because you are not logged in. You will have an array of options once logged in.

The design is criticized which is fine. However it was designed to be simple so that people can explore through the site with ease and in a less complicated way than other sites.

Until those commenting actually have a live account and play the games, then they cant give an actual honest review of the site.

For a gambler (which I have been for many years) the site is easy to use, the games are fast, the game play is simple, payouts are instant and withdrawals are fast. Its an easy to use site if you just close your eyes and reset all your negative thoughts about other scam sites that cloud your judgement on this one.

If you cant afford to throw in a few dollars to see for yourself then being on a gambling forum isn't really the place for you in my opinion, better spent time elsewhere.

I really feel that the multiplayer roulette game could offer some great user fun with a chat room which I do have setup just not enabled yet.

All the best guys - speak soon

They claim to have a bankroll of 10 bitcoins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365927.msg58197129#msg58197129), but to be honest this site doesn't represent a casino company with that amount of capital. Even spending 0.5 bitcoin to making a site better than this one to attract new players won't bankrupt them instantly, unless their claims are false. (just my thoughts, as the title required). ::)

Regarding this number 2 which is attacks from other members from this community, I will advise you develop a thick skin to withstand negative criticism and use them as fuel to foster the development of your project focus more on achieving greater success the site.

The script of the website itself costs $150 only and each add on-game costs $30-$50.
Source: https://codecanyon.net/item/crypto-casino-slot-machine-online-gambling-platform-laravel-5-application/23088602
With this fact I doubt that they have 10btc bankroll tbh, if they have that 10btc bankroll then I think they should have a better website.
Its been a while already but they do not even buy a copper membership so they can create a better ANN thread with images or hire a ANN thread designer to create it.

The best way to prove this information is true would be by signing a message from the btc address holding 10 bitcoins owned by the casino. This way one of the biggest doubts could be cleared up, decreasing the suspiciousness among gamblers, consequently helping the casino to grow its users' base faster. Thanks to blockchain transparency is possible and accessible, while also guaranteeing the safety of the coins' holder.

What does that even mean? You are an investor but you do not have confidence in your own investment?


WTF are you talking about? Where did you see personal attacks you are referring to? As for hostile feedback, this is an online discussion platform, get used to it.


It's a bit like a chicken and egg scenario. You cannot naively expect many active users on your site without first building confidence. Poor design leads to a bad first impression and poor user experience


This is another example of bad design and bad user experience. Learn from other casinos' examples.


You asked for other people's opinions. What you do with them is up to you. You can either accept them as constructive criticism and act on it, or deny them and go on as before.


It's the chicken and the egg problem again.


LOL! You are such a sour loser! People here have a great selection of gambling sites to choose from other than your site. Don't overvalue yourself.
It's a very serious business to start a gambling site. It's obvious that you're not up to it.

And, before you accuse me of personal attack, I would like to emphasize that this is just my opinion based on what I have seen so far. I have absolutely nothing against you personally.

+1 for this. That is the simple thing they can do to prove to us so we do not doubt that they have some money to run their business. It needs transparency to us so there will be no more question about how much money they have. Besides that, I think they can grow their site with that amount as having 10 bitcoins right now means, $610,000 and that's a lot of money to talk about. It will help them gain trust among the members, which is the important thing to grow the business.

With easy design your website "pretty fast", when you`ll add different addons, widgets - it can become "slow enough". The best way is to test it with full design.

I will not return after such kind of design. And i will not wait until "it will be nice". So you are losing potential gamblers even before start.

It's partially true that most of the posters here are not gamblers. They post here as a requirement of the signature campaign. But it is also true that people would join and play there if the site is attractive and trusted enough. You are a pretty new site with no huge effort given. So, it’s hard to get players in such a site.

Did you close your eyes and pretend that we're all a bunch of noobs that aren't concerned with being scammed and can't wait to send you our money.  Or do you think that's real life.

You said share our thoughts and some people are sharing their thoughts about your website, if you see many negative comments it means that is what they think on your website and probably that's the problem. I visited the website and at my first glance I wouldn't actually risked my money there no matter what, here's a question for me.

Why would I play on your website where I can play on other reputable gambling sites that I know is safe? As I can see the website was done unprofessionally (no offense), putting a big "No Verification Docs Required" is like trying to lurk people on your website and become a victim, have you considered that most of us do play gambling games on the daily basis and have experienced on scam casinos and the legit ones?

The website looks suspicious, the installed script seems to be from Code canyon.
The signup bonus is to offer gameplay and you cannot withdraw without a deposit.
The concept of Anonymous gaming isn't match with the requirement of such games. You cannot judge that either the opponent player is genuine or is a bot. Everything looks suspicious so I would not suggest anyone deposit here.

actually the way they provide or put this ANN Thread here? is already a red flag for me , why would not put a decent ANN Thread instead of this crappy BS post.

 A very low Budget gambling site that looks like created by a Highschool computer knowledgeable student  ;D

Will never fall playing in this kind of site that is one thing I promise  ;D ;D ;D

Yeah, he should create good ANN to attract players. In regards with the site itself it looks like it was just a bought script and just changes some things, honestly I wouldn't trust gambling site like that I wouldn't risk my money to test out a site where in you can play on other safe and reputable gambling website.

It is a proof that what is claimed by OP to have 10BTC bankroll is questionable. As well as the winners list on the website, there are many users under the recent tabs win decent amount of money in the last few days. If this site is able to pay that much, they should have make a better ANN thread or at least offer a promotion. As I have said earlier in this thread, any site using the script bought from codecanyon is not worth to use.

It looks so. I think this is a way to get easy money from newbies. The site looks awful, content looks the same, and the op saying, that everything will be ok sometime. I don`t believe in such promises and i even will not visit this "gambling site" again.

Such a lovely community we have here at Bitcoin talk

I took a look at you're video poker, I don't think it's actually provably fair.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you generating the order of the cards behind the scenes, using the provably fair aspect to determine which card is dealt first (cut the deck)?

And no, I'm not accusing you of cheating or trying to cheat or anything like that so no need to respond all defensive.

You are welcome.
And what do you want to hear? That you did excellent gambling site and everyone is ready to bring you money? It does not work so. Men see problems and telling about it. If you don`t want to see or hear it - why did you start this thread?

Same goes for your slots, black jack, and any other game that relies on a 'server secret' (you could pick whatever you wanted) to determine the initial state of the reels/cards.  

Could you please share who sold you this script.  I'm seeing it more and more and wish they would either make it provably fair or quit trying to make it seem like it is.

I read their "Provably Fair" page (https://www.betabit.casino/pages/provably-fair), and what I understood is that the server secret determin the order of cards. The hash of server secret + server seed + client seed will be used to generate a number N which will be used to cut the deck (please correct me if am wrong).
I don't think this is the right way to do it. The client seed must be used to determine the order of cards too.
Besides, I can't see any option to enter the client seed!

According to this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365927.msg58219324) by naim027, the script was bought from here: https://codecanyon.net/item/stake-online-casino-gaming-platform-single-page-application/25370124

Yes, it is. Thank you for noticing. I think we are one of the few places in the Bitcoin community that can be counted on for good, friendly and open discussion.
Now tell us, what can we do for you?

Looks like that he lost *sarcasm* somewhere. But i don`t understand what he doesn`t like? He got answers for his questions, got feedback, got testers opinion, design advices. It seems that he wanted only compliment but not truth. But this is not community problem as for me.

The beginnings are always tough, so don't be put off. Unfortunately, there have been so many scam casinos on this forum that the community is very suspicious for any new platform.
If you found some of the opinions too offensive, take them calmly and try to answer them.
I'm sure everyone will notice and appreciate it over time if you try to engage in dialogue with the Bitcointalk community.

At first glance, the casino looks fine to me.

Good luck.

Thats true and its quite common to have doubt at first for new casino. I only gamble to casinos that I trust but there's an exception for new casinos if they have something to offer that I like (e.g bonuses, free spins) and the minimum withdrawal is fair enough. I think op is tired of answering the questions of people who didnt even try to play on their site. But he cant coerce the gamblers if they didnt want to, isn't it? Especially if they think its not worth to try.

Indeed its hard to get the trust of players because the casino need to prove something first that can change the mind of gamblers.

I have positive feedback to you a month ago and I also encourage you to get a copper account and make your announcement stand out but until now there is no action on your part and you are not really that active here give us an update on your bonus if there are and new additional features, we are in support of this kind of casino.

It's quite strange that the OP doesn't even try to establish a dialogue with the community, and today he was active:

Last Active:   Today at 01:36:59 PM

Maybe he has no time now, because in this thread @TwitchySeal has seriously undermined the credibility of BetABit.Casino games by stating that are not provably fair:

Thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369598.0

I have tried to establish a direct and friendly approach with the community so its unfair to say that.

People who are bad mouthing are competitors who are running there own casinos so its understandable they will say what they say. Its up to people what they read however I am not getting into any hardcore debates about super website designs etc. The site works well, its clean, simple and works clean.

I promise you that not one of those guys even has $10 to deposit and play with so if people want to believe what individuals like that have to say then that's ok.

The casino offered works well and has had a number of players playing on it recently which is why I haven't had much time to reply on here much (even though I pop on here and there to check in on comments to see if there are any major issues to deal with). Cant be expected to be here and chat/comment everyday I have a business to run with people that actually pay and play!

Plenty of users were using Shiba Inu for there deposits which is promising after they made 10x on Shiba over the last month. Many of them withdrew in Shiba also.

Crypto on the whole is still staying strong, my portfolio grows everyday just doing nothing really, crypto is amazing, its changed so many lives.

I'm all about positivity and I'm hoping that those are the type of players that will be the biggest winners.

(p.s, a big thanks to all the quiet supporters outhere that have commented positively, or not commented but enjoyed our site responsibly.)

Calm down and do your job! Everything is fine!
What you've read so far is nothing! When the competition feels that you are dangerous for them and you take customers from them, then you can expect unpleasant situations. But don't worry! Take care of your business and move forward! Everything will be fine! Fingers crossed!

Thank you for your support.

Regarding @TwitchySeal - my response to his forum post is as follows:

Regarding the Author to this post: I cannot discuss other sites that you have mentioned in your post as I have not used them and am not associated with them in any way shape or form.

However regarding: www.betabit.casino which is the site that I operate. I can assure you that the provably fair system is sound and fully automated & functioning correctly and not a single player has complained about this. Nobody at the back end has any control over ANY of the games outcomes. It is also highlighted on the site that not all of the games are provably fair.

If there is indeed an issue with the particular game: video poker then I will indeed investigate further and if needed I will remove the game if there is an issue.

However unless you have actually deposited and played on my site - Libel Is A Criminal Offense - ruining websites credibility online without checking in full and making comments as such is a suable offense in a court of law. Please refrain from labelling my website unless you have had a genuine bad experience please. Be respectful.

You can follow the bitcoin talk forum for betabit.casino here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365927.0

Now can people please stop with the nonsense and behave like grown ups please.

No,I don't need to send you my money in order to know whether or not your games are provably fair.  And I don't need to send you money in order to tell other people about it.  Anyone with a basic understanding of the provably fair concept can do all this for free by reading what you have on your own site: https://www.betabit.casino/pages/provably-fair

"When you open the game page the server generates a secret and a seed and reveals its hash (using HMAC SHA256 algorithm). The server secret represents randomly shuffled card deck. "

You're 'shuffling the deck' as soon as the user opens the page.  You aren't using the client seed when determining the order of the cards, you're just claiming they're randomly shuffled.  The player needs to trust that you aren't intentionally setting the order of the initial deck state to gain an unfair advantage.  If it were provably fair, you'd be proving that they were randomly shuffled, but you're not. 

The same goes for your other games, I'm just using video poker as an example.

Your site isn't provably fair.  Don't get all pissy and shoot the messenger, your issue should be with whoever sold you the script and told you it was provably fair - because it's not.

You're welcome for bringing this to your attention so that you can do what any honest casino owner would do and fix the problem while, in the meantime, making sure any potential or current players are informed of the issue.

You have not, if you have done it then you should accept criticism wisely. If what accused to you is not true, prove it with better explanation.


Do not be so confidence, you are still new and you are using cheap script so you are not a competitor for the other existing casinos.


You do not need to be here every day, but you need to be active here when there is question/feedback/or accusation. You open a thread here means that you are trying to advertise it here and to get some users from this forum.

YOU HAVE TRIED , why not extend more? you are advertising in a forum in which open for criticism and opinions so just do your things,
answer legitimately and let the community decide if you are worth playing or not simple as that.

and since you have a "Quit Supporters that commenting Positively" then there is no need for you to feel being attacked instead use those criticism as challenge to improve your site .

No criticism, no any advices to improve casino, no discussion. Nice choice dude, you are ready to improve your work *sarcasm*. If you want hear just positive posts - you can create self-moderated thread but i don`t think that it will be popular. In such a case everything will be as you like.

OP things all the critics are attacking Him since most are also wearing Signature from other gambling sites like us, but if he will only take a look at the good side, those he considered as badmouthing is a challenging part in which he needs to improve his site.

But the way he addressed those? is the way how Scammers act in the past when being Burned .

Self Moderated topics for ANN Thread is also another way of How scammers act in this forum for long time now.

That's not how provably fair works. It is not enough for you to claim that something is fair if we cannot prove it independently. That's why it's called "provably".


That's a bunch of nonsense. You're threatening to sue community members for expressing their opinions while you're promoting your illegal, unlicensed gambling business? Come on! Instead of making stupid statements, pay attention to the opinions of users if you are serious about improving your platform.

Stop complaining and go and make some money: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5370043.0

Maybe you will thank me after making a profit and see how legit an investor I am.

Good luck everyone.

LOL, there is a user asked about your provably fair system and you have not explained about it properly but now you are talking and recommending us to invest in an altcoin? What is your main concern here? Building up your casino or become a trader and share your trading activities?

When a casino is evaluated by the community and their advice signals when there is some suspicious activity and it is not corrected, it is normal that everything points to thinking about the bad, it is logical here the reputation of the sites can determine everything, if you have not Corrected in time, you can hardly move in the forum normally, you will not be able to get players to enter, you will not find a community, because here we have very high-level casinos and bookmakers that meet all the standards that the forum and its members have taken care of build up.

Maybe stick to investing then and find someone else to run Betabit and salvage the mess you created.

Pretending like your games are provably fair will only do more damage.

Of course. And we see here advices to improve his site, but OP does not need it. Looks like he just trying to make a advertisement for it and to attract people. Someone will bet some money and after that he can create a new such site.

Surely, that`s why no one wants to visit such sites. But it`s the only way how the OP can get only positive feedback.

When you make such juvenile and ridiculous comments, you are doing no good to your business. This will make most of the members even more reluctant to trust your casino. Next, you will notice your value is rapidly declining. You need to understand your business and market. There is a market for everyone, but it's competitive market and your value is only as good as your reputation. So far, all you have shown is how childish and inexperienced you are, and how unprepared you are for this kind of business. Though you think you are some great casino operator, you are far from it. This is something to learn from and correct.

WTF Are you talking about? A user asked you to explain your game fairness and you completely ignored it?

I got it. I got it.

I think you are not here for business purposes or you forget why you are here.
This is The Strongest Crypto Currency Community On The Internet and You Ignoring the community.

Stop Doing your Casino business, Go get a job. and live happyly.

Seems he has left this forum already as he is not online for a week now. Not that surprising for me as most casino with the same script did the same as him previously. Announced the casino in this forum, communicate for a while then go away or ignore once there are some serious question/feedback about the casino. He may come back online to bump his thread but for sure he will not address all the questions.

Looks like he moved to another board in search of the newbies with money. Or creating new "gambling site" with the same script and another "face". There are a lot of such op at the pump time. It`s easy to get money from newbies who wants to become rich in a moment. Often see such crying newbies, that don`t remember such a lesson.

Well, This Script is Coded by Codecanyon developers and it's available on the Envato market. If you have a few hundred dollars, you can easily buy this script with a few add-ons and start your casino in no time.

It's becoming easier because code canyon developers will install your script and they will run your website within a few hours.

Most of the scammers taking advantage of it. You can buy a cheap script, run a website, Scam - Start again with a different name.

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Like seriously? Did you create a token with the name of your casino which has less than a thousand players?

IDK what do you think about BitcoinTalk Community?
You launched your casino about a month ago. You already got a negative trust rate from High-Rank users. You failed to answer to the community. Today you are back with your own created Shitcoin and you asking us to buy your shitcoins that don't have a logo or icon (whatever it is) yet? WTF Man?

I think you would be more likely to succeed if you focused on fixing the way outcomes are determined in your casino so that they are actually provably fair.

In the mean time, you should remove any mention of your games being provably fair, since they're not.

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11 days later:

https://i.gyazo.com/66a28538413067c706dcdb957e5fbebe.png

hmmm....

No disrespect intended, but why do you think anyone would want to buy your token? You haven't outlined any benefits for holders, and we can't even use the token for gambling on your platform. You don't talk about the basic things like what is the value of the token? What is the purpose of the token? Where is the whitepaper, tokenomics, anything... about this token?

Honestly, how can you expect any success with such an unprofessional approach? Your credibility in the community is slipping, so I advise you to review your idea carefully before asking members of the bitcointalk community to contribute.

Share the love - Stop Moaning - Start Investing - See Future Potential

This definitely doesn't look like good investment advice. However, it was not only the price of this coin that fell, as the entire cryptocurrency market fell into a little bearish market.


Price drops may take longer. I don't think this is the best time to invest.

Your issue with their provably fair implementation is that the client seed isn't used for the generation of their server secret, but is instead used to manipulate the final results. In the case of a card game, that means cutting the deck, and I see how that could be exploited. I'm not sure how that'd be implemented with their slots game though because it seems like the client seed does an unpredictable job of shuffling the reels, and same with dice. Do you have any ideas on that? (I really am just curious, not trying to defend this casino)

Anyway, this casino failed to process a withdrawal.

I'm not that tech expert, but as far as I know, casinos that are Provably Fair give you a TX for every "deal". If it's not given here, it's not Provably Fair in my opinion.


When did you claim your withdrawal?

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Yeah right! I think it's time for you to get real and stop projecting your insecurities onto others.


Is there a reason why you don't mention that in your Terms of Service or FAQs?

Faqs page updated - https://betabit.casino/pages/Faqs... more updates to come, one at a time please...

I think you're right about slots and dice.  They're basically taking a non-provably fair random number and then shifting it by a provably fair random number.  I could be missing something though, I can't find the actual code posted anywhere and I haven't really looked into their slots too much.

In the end, having a server secret is either pointless or it results in the game being notprovably fair.  I can say for sure it's making their card based games not provably fair.  It really wouldn't be that difficult for whoever developed their software to simply get rid of it.

When the casino isn't even provably fair, withdrawals should be the least of your concerns.

You'd be pretty stupid to play on this site imho, at least play at a place where you know exactly what your odds of winning are through a provably fair system.

But hey, each to their own I guess.

Fairness issue > Withdrawal

Once you do know that there is some issues about fairness then it would be simply be needing up some common sense whether you do continue to deposit or not and to mind that there are more better and fair casinos out there and not just this one.

Therefore, common sense is really needed on times like these and wont really be much needing a piece of advise or been told
by other people.

Thanks, my focus hasn't been on provably fair implementations lately, but figured there was a chance someone developed a new exploit against these types of which I hadn't read.

I hesitate to respond to the previous two posts, but I'm a security researcher and I expect to lose small amounts of crypto with these sites. I make a whole lot more than I'll ever lose disclosing vulnerabilities to site operators and game studios. Publicly reporting anything at all about a site is not in my best interest, but I do publicly report a site's poor behavior to this community anyway. Implying I'm "stupid" or lack common sense is pretty uncalled for, and I hope anyone with that attitude considers their words more carefully before making such posts in the future.

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Why didn't you take your time to answer or reply the question related to the fairness of your game as well as the accusation against you above that you failed to process withdrawal?
Are you ignoring them consciously as what is used to be done by most other casinos with the same script?
Or you are just the same person as the previous owner of the older sites?

Panju,

I have been very clear about other sites...I'm not interested in those. I have my own casino, my own crypto and soon I will build my own crypto exchange swap.

I have not commented about other casinos and definitely not promoted them so I'm unsure of where you are receiving your information.

There are no issues with withdrawals. BABC Token has also been integrated with deposit and withdraw options.

The games are fair and even if I wanted too I wouldn't know how to manipulate the games! There are users here that have tested the provably fair system, not complained about it and made a profit. If the casino wasnt working we would not have created a BABC Token.

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Regarding trust issues which unfortunately cant be avoided, I have an idea that may be of interest.

If I create a Bitcoin Talk raffle for $5 per ticket - winner takes all and the winner can post proof of his or her withdrawal.

There is no way of us fooling the raffle right? We will just take a 5% rake from the pot as a casino fee and the rest is the winners.

Obviously for this to work it would require at least 100 people to make it worth it however it will clear up any trust issues you guys have when the winner takes all and posts the results here.

You can all afford at least $10 to deposit into the casino before slating it, lets see who is real or not, $10...

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If I get 100 'Yes' on the poll I created then I will set up the raffle.

We are open to suggestions regarding the raffle...

No. You cannot fix the negative sentiment regarding your casino by running a raffle on BitcoinTalk. If you want to fix the trust issues, then you should address the problems with the casino.


Wrong. Who will guarantee that the winner will receive the prize? Where will the funds be held in escrow?


Why would anyone want to enter your raffle when we already have multiple raffles organized by respected forum members without any rake?


Btw, please stop multi-posting and blatantly violating the forum's rules.

Are you ok?  You're not making any sense.

Just stop claiming your games are provably fair, because they aren't.  At least the card based ones.  Get rid of the stupid server secret.

Are you crazy Dumb? People asking you to provide proof of your game fairness. And you asking everyone to deposit $10 on your casino to prove that they are real.

Well, they are not Bot. Nice Scam attempt 😆

No problem, if that's the sentiment I'm getting then we will scrap the raffle idea.

Moaned at for not replying on here then when I do, my posts get deleted by moderators and you guys just cant be pleased no matter what I say or how I say it.

I seriously give up trying here.

The funniest thing is that all the haters on this forum are promoting other casinos that are exactly the same and are probably much worse behind the scenes - maybe the flashy designs make you people happy and trusted.

I'm sure that all the other crypto casinos offer up escrow services and free lunch and a drink to go with it!

I love how people shout scam when they haven't even got the decency to give it a chance and try for real. Some people must get a kick out of bad mouthing other people who make an effort and try positive things.

I've tried on countless occasions to engage with this community on a serious level however there are to many people who like to spoil it for others so they maintain there trust scores. Some of you have good manners even if you have a gripe with the casino which is fair - but others are just rude and ignorant with nothing between the ears.

I get the idea of what's going on here, I'll move forward and upwards

I am not screaming scam nor I am a technical expert. However, I would like to know why your fair system is different from other Provably Fair casinos.
So I am asking you very nice, could you please provide evidence that your casino is provably fair?
Hope to get a reply before you leave Bitcointalk.
Thank you

How do you justify your failures on countless occasions when others, evidently, have been successful? I think it is your attitude. What do you think?


Good for you.  ;)

You never tried to engage with me.  You said it's a criminal offense and you could sue me if I don't deposit on your site but tell other people about the flaw in your provably fair implementation. 

Not sure if I'm a "hater" but I do not and have never promoted any casino.


I tried it, you didn't pay.

For the record, I don't really care about your provably fair algorithm and disagree with others on this forum that believe it is necessary. Most casinos advertised on this forum don't use provably fair algorithms or have only a limited selection of games that use them. I also agree that you probably do not have the technical knowledge needed to modify your purchased software to exploit the vulnerability TwitchySeal and I have discussed. Not paying when you should is a much bigger problem in my opinion, and for that reason my negative feedback will remain.

The point is that many of the people who comment on this thread have advertisements from other casinos in their signatures. Probably the OP does not know that we are simply taking part in a signature campaign and 99% of users have nothing to do with the casino they have in signature. However, if someone does not know how it works, it may feel that it is someone who represents a different casino.

Yes, that is a much bigger prolem.

You see @Betabit.casino, we aren't looking for escrow services and free drinks, we just want a casino where we will be treated fairly and that won't try to scam us. I guess now we all see what's really going on here.

These types of problems with withdrawals sometimes happen at the beginning of the casino's operations. But I am surprised that the owner does not try to fix this situation as soon as possible by withdrawing manually.
Of course it's disturbing, but I think we should wait a bit more with accussations.

you can give up anytime as you really did not do anything to please people here instead your attitude and behavior in answering those issues says a lot how you are similar to those scam site that had been caught , I am not saying you are one but close to them is indeed.
you just can't call people Haters, instead if you will open your eyes those are criticism that you can answer with good attitude but no your not .

This the funniest defense from a casino's owner who cant explain what is asked by the community. You cant even see the fact that gamblers are not only look at the design of the casino and no casino is trusted just because of the design. You act like a crying kid who is failed to fool his friends.

It looks like the OP received his first negative trust. I really think the games were fair too and based on the looks of the website I wouldn't really trust that kind of gambling site especially the description he gave on the provably fair part. Instead of giving explanation how the seed works and the full details he just gave a explanation that it is fair.

If this is a purchased casino script, the owner may not know how it really works. It is possible that the seller just lied to him. He got the info that the script was provably fair and believed it. Now when he is asked to present evidence, he just can't do it and tries to hide it.

It's strange to see a site that gives a description on their main page saying "All our games are provably fair. We do not cheat." it's like we will be cheated. I think the use of the right words in a casino is something to pay attention to.
Also in their recent games, some players use their real names like they don't care about identities in gambling.

Good point! Whenever someone writes that something is not a scam, the first thing that comes to my mind is that it is. Well, because have you ever seen any serious big companies with an established position that ever talk about the fact that they are not scammers? Not! Because why talk about it? It is after all an obvious. However, if someone talks about it from the beginning, it immediately seems suspicious to me.

Well…I guess this is how it goes: He bought a pre-made casino script, bought a domain and thought that he is the master of all the gambling worlds!

This, however, is not the case and it is obvious that he hadn't thought about it very much. What many people don't realize is that there are thousands of gambling sites that use this exact same approach. But, running a successful gambling site requires much more than that. You need to plan, invest, come up with ideas and many other things that OP did not do.

I highly doubt that it is the case as anyone with smart logic will try to find out about the important thing related to the product they want to buy.
In this case, having a casino is a business, gambling business so anyone who want to own a casino should not be that stupid to buy a random cheap script without doing researches.
I'm quite sure the OP know everything about the script including about the questionable provably fairness but he do not want to admit it.

Not necessarily.
With simple step-by-step instructions, almost anyone with basic computer skills can install a ready-made script on a hosting server. However, understanding the inner workings of gambling scripts requires knowledge of programming, programming language syntax, and math. Considering how much the OP struggled with just a simple task like editing a logo on a website, I believe he lacks the expertise required for something like this.

Regarding your statement that it's stupid to buy a random cheap script without doing any research, I completely agree.

Exactly. In-house developers are always better than using some pre-developed templates since the author could simply inject a malicious script into one of the updates.

I agree. It is always better to build gambling script with in-house developers from scratch. However, I do not believe BetABit.Casino has the necessary expertise nor the resources at their disposal to build something like that, not to mention the capital necessary to fund bankrolls, promotions, and so on. This seems more like an attempt to earn some quick cash. But I will keep an open mind.

We can all see that the owner approach is not very professional. My particular point was that if someone introduces himself that he is not an scammer, a red light is automatically turned on for me that he is. This is how it looks also here:
We do not cheat.
It is a clear signal for me to avoid this place from a distance.

You already said (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365927.msg58483350#msg58483350) basically the same thing a few days ago. Are you trying to build up your post count?

And, isn't it cynical of you to talk about scam casinos given the signature you wear?

I can agree that it is possible. Sometime ago i`ve got the same task(not casino, but very similar). The main problem was not to create web-site and make several changes for it - it is really easy if you get good instruction. Some troubles i`ve got then began to do local changes, that i need to my task - it is difficult to find such instructions.
If the OP just changes wallets and the name with logo - it does not take much time.

Wang has read forum on this casino and doesnt understand why people speak bad thing on this. I have used casino 5 times already and not had bad thing. Wang wins easy with blackjack, the casino pays, msg wang for crypto strategy coin build and wang help you

Nice try to shill for this casino, but no one will trust you easily. Be smarter if you want to say it is a good site that pays you. Prove what you say and get all those who say bad thing about this casino busted, can you? Show us that you are a real player in this site and show us that they do really pay your winning. Simple request.

I believe he can't. He just opened this account yesterday and immediately comes to this thread to prove that he trust this casino. is it co-incident? I don't think so. But, look at his post. How Clever he is. He pretending like he is a NON-ENGLISH guy. He doesn't know English too much. But, He loves this casino. That's why he came here to leave feedback. Clever but funny also.

Hey Mr.Wang. I know you are an alt of BetABit. Still, I am requesting you to provide info about what The Dustboy asked for. Just a simple request.

@BetABit.Casino, Man, Stop what are you doing now. Bitcointalk People are not Kids. If you really want to do business. Take this community seriously. Listen to community feedback and try to improve. This way you can do your business with BitcoinTalk People. Otherwise, You have depended on other Paid Networks like PTC, Google ads, or other ad networks. That's it.

LOL. I`ve never seen so silly try to shill such scam. Last time i often see the same tries to promote hardware "sellers" but even such tries looks more clever then this. If someone doubted that betabit is scam - everything were proved with such a shiller. Seems he even didn`t get back his money for script and hosting.

I haven't used their website yet but i've seen websites like Duckdice, fastdice exit scam and there were quite a lot of them.

I'm not sure what to say about the website atm but i'll look into theirs when i get the time again to try with some amount.
Or maybe reading your post made me dodge a bullet.

There is nothing interesting. Just look at new registered @Wangyip post and posts after him. This is enough to understand everything about this website and your chances to get your money back. And before it there were posts with analyze this "casino" and it`s script - cheap script that mostly used for such scam websites.

It proves the stability of my opinion on what I wrote and what I think about this casino.



This is a BetABit.Casino thread and I am writing about it. If you want to talk about what I think of 1xbit this is not the right place.

I believe there are more than 10 different sites with the same script in this forum. The only reason why the owners choose the script is simply because they do not need to spend a lot of money to own a gambling site. They thought that they can make money by owning a casino with few hundred dollars. All the sites using the same script are failed since the start, forcing themselves to gain players with shill accounts, fake news, or maybe fake bets on the site. 

It is easy to use the same script from the other gambling sites because they want to save the budget, but the hardest part is how they can prove to the public if they are a different owner than the site where they used the scripts. Besides that, they need to give better services to their members, even better than the gambling casino that uses the original scripts. People will not think much about that as long as that casino can give the best to them. Try to satisfy the members, and they will come for more to you and trust you.

But that will not be easy as some people can still think that those websites have the same owner and we can speculate what they will do later. If you do not want to have a problem, you should play gambling on a gambling site that has a reputation and always avoid playing gambling on an unknown site.

Of course it is so. The problem is the newbies. If someone does such websites one by one - someone else leaves their money on this "casinos". I heard several days ago a story about cheater that wanted to get $2000 but got 9 USDT and decided that it is enough from one person. Here can be the same situation. Even if OP gets just $5-10 from one man - it will be $500-1000 from hundred men. But i don`t know how to stop this cheating.

We should probably not be surprised if someone finds a way to run a casino at a lower cost and does it. I think that such a person also realizes that his casino will not be competitive.
I don't want to defend BetABit.Casino here because I still find them suspicious, but every casino has to start somehow before it builds its trust.

It is not just dozens of websites, but hundreds. These individuals probably get the script, either by buying it or downloading it illegally, and then register dozens of domains in the hope that some of them will get traffic.

Yet, as we can see from this example, it is not so simple, and it seems like Wang is very desperate.  :D

It is very possible that their method is the number of casinos, not the quality of the casinos. It is also possible that they are paying more attention to marketing outside of Bitcointalk. Either they don't know the promotional potential here or they just have a different marketing strategy. I think that the mere lack of activity on Bitcointalk is not enough to judge them.

I don`t think that there is any marketing there. Their way is creating more and more sites with the minimal changes, to minimize their efforts. After it - different ways are possible. Buying bots or traffic, making such threads by themselves, spamming social networks, etc. Someone will be catched by them anyway.

Exactly. There is no marketing. Just a guy who buys a domain and installs a ready-made script, and that is it. I do not know why some people try to give him credit where none exists.

You could actually just pinpoint out directly on whats happening on here and related into these very common sites which are only intended on spamming out their ref links
every corner on the net without minding about marketing and stuffs.
This is why i dont really bother myself on reading up or seeing those reviews and signed under them? I have never done that in my entire
experience and time here on crypto space.

Well, I'm not really a believer in scripts, I remember in 2017 when I played a lot on freebitco.in and tried many strategies, from the ones I saw on YouTube and the ones I invented, then in a video on YouTube I saw a programmer who had his own script, and it had a very good success rate, I ventured to enter their community and at first their script was free, after trying it it should be noted that I won absolutely nothing, for the simple fact that you cannot beat randomness, It is almost impossible, I earned more playing manually on my own than with that script.

When I was writing about the script, I didn't mean automatic casino gaming software for players. My point was that someone can bought a cheap pre-made casino script.
Most of the good professional casinos are built for personal use with only one license, which is for themselves only. However, you can buy casino scripts on the internet that were created by independent developers. Such scripts do not have a limit of licenses (copies), so they are sold quite cheaply.
It is possible that this is how BetABit.Casino was created.

He didn't mean that as a strategy script. There is a lot of things that we basically call a script. If a Movie Director asks for "Script", He means the "Movie Story". If a web developer asks for a "Script", He means the "Website Script", If a gambler asks for a "Script", He means the "Strategy Script". So here, That guy was talking about website script but since we are familiar with strategy script that's why we didn't get it. right? IDK, if I got you. Only you can confirm me.



I got you. You were talking about the casino script installed by BetABit.Casino, Right? Yes. This is a Pre-made casino script. anyone can buy this script and it has unlimited copies. The Script Name Is Stake -Online Gaming Platform Script is available at https://codecanyon.net/item/stake-online-casino-gaming-platform-single-page-application/25370124 (https://codecanyon.net/item/stake-online-casino-gaming-platform-single-page-application/25370124)

This is the reason most of the scammers buy this script, Install and do scams. IDK What is the BetABit.Casino's intention. But, I Hope for the best.

Sometimes we see new casinos and first players can get nice bonuses there. If don`t look at them you minimize your risk to loose your money but the same time you don`t get this bonuses. For some gamblers such bonuses is a part of the strategy. In this way i can just recommend to research the website and wallets first of all. And try to withdrawal deposit as soon as possible.

You got it wrong. I do not think these are the scripts we talked about. Look at what naim027 replied. We discussed ready-made scripts for running an online casino like this. You can buy them cheaply or even get them for free on illegal warez websites.

You are right on this one mate which is actually true and we know that those popular casinos now are wayback ones new which it did really come up that they've become popular because of some aspects but hesitance and doubts would really be there but we arent that dumb on not to notice those shady and not really convincing
gambling sites specially new ones and this is where we do make out our own decisions in regarding to this.

Market is down massive - a really good time to utilize these price movements in the casino - many profitable players especially in the last 48 hours

Scammer is here again. It looks that he has not too much such sites, if he still tries to shill it. The bad news, that this site is still not banned. But i believe that newbies will read this thread and it will be enough informative for  them not to bring their cryptocurrencies to this scammer.

Banned by who and how? Are you expecting his account is banned by forum's moderator?
Bear in your mind mate, scam is not moderated in this forum you cant expect to see any scammer account to be banned in this forum.
What we can do is to read, learn and aware about such harmful thing then avoid it.

Has anyone ever told you you are quite the comedian? You think anyone believes that crap you write?
I am sorry, but you just don't seem to be in touch with reality.

I notice all the players on your site are bots.

https://i.snipboard.io/EyBC4R.jpg

I know it would be a bit embarrassing to have an empty feed, or one showing the last bet happening 3 weeks ago, but why not just hide the feed rather than (poorly) attempt to fool potential players into thinking other humans trust you?

Not account(i want it to be so, but i know that this is just a dream). I was thinking about website. Good hosting ban cheating websites, if there are appeals from different users with the proves. But there are different reasons why it can be so: no appeals, no proves, unreliable hosting.
Yes, it is so. So if i see, that there are no warning posts at last page - i`m writing it myself.

Yes, there is no doubt about that. I had to register just to check this out. All players registered at the same time (a month ago) and all use their full name (sometimes even their title), although this is not required at all when registering a new account. Also, if you check the "Biggest wins" or "Biggest losses" list, all the games were played at the same time, also a month ago. You can't get more fake than this!

Right. Have you noticed that the guy (BetABit) avoided every question from the community and don't feel they have to defend accusations? He follows the "ekla cholo" (Go alone) strategy. Don't be bothered by others.  LOL. He didn't improve a single thing last month and still, He bumping the thread as soon as it's going 2nd-3rd page of the board. It could be good if he comes up with positive answers and understands The community. He posted shitcoin updates and the crypto market updates. LOL. I don't know why he still posting these things since there are no more positive things in this thread about his casino. Surprisingly he didn't give up. keep it up, dude.


Heh, He is a thick-skinned rhino. You will never get a reply from him. forget about it, bro.
The funniest thing is we still paying attention to him and bumping his thread all the way up.

I think the bot showing the winnings is just a standard option to the pre-made casino script that the owner bought and just installed. He probably just doesn't know how to turn it off, or found that most people visiting his casino will not notice that they are bots and will consider that they are real players and that his casino is very popular.

And why not? There was the same topic here, with some another scam, and that was at the 3rd page if i remember correct. And after that the OP pumped it again, without comments about scam. I think it is a good practice to remind that this "casino" is scam to save some newbies money.

I have some concern about this. Newbie usually didn't read content if the thread is too long. Creating a flag against the OP is more helpful rather than bumping it by a series of post about criticism. A non-forum user might just read the title and browse the first page of this thread since it's the page that will pop up once non forum user browse and click the link to this thread. They don't have access to trust score so they might see this as a normal active thread.

I highly recommend a flag to the OP.

Well, every member not going to talk about scams here. Mostly, peoples come here to increase their post count. this is the truth. You cannot always talk about only one topic. either it's a scam topic or any other topic.


I agreed with you. Newbies don't read the all posts. They usually check the ANN and they go to the website directly. Well, Another thing is you can create a flag if you want. But, I don't see any serious proofs that you could use. You cannot say they do scam until they reject your payment. We just suspecting this casino as a Scam website. Since this website and The ANN Creator is unprofessional. Based on that we suspecting this could be a scam website. If you have any valid proof. you are welcome to create a fla and hope DT members will support your flag.

If so, that will not be a good idea to use the bot, especially if the casino starts to have regular players because that can make the other player who wants to play on that casino think that the winning list is not right for them.
That can make them leave the site and will search for the other site that has a real player on the site with real data.
Using the bot to show fake data can give disadvantages for the casino to invite more potential real players.
It is better to turn off the script and never activate it just because you want to get more players to come to their site.

I don`t think that anyone go to website without research. And creating flag will not help from newbie accounts, creating new threads. And if you think that newbies don`t read the posts why do you think they will look at the trust? Even if someone wants to spend his money to prove it.
The best way is to delete such threads by moderators, but this is unreachable i think.

I do not agree with you. There are newbies or even non-members that always explores and research first about the casino they wanted to play at. I've read some posts about them...non-members before, just creating account to give honest opinions, and sometimes warnings about fraudulent casinos. Though there are people who just play without even knowing the background of the casino, that doesn't mean that everyone is like that.

In my opinion, you are both right. If the casino is dishonest, we should warn Newbies in every possible way that there is a possibility of losing money.
However, in this case, there is still no evidence that the owner of BetABit.Casino has bad intentions.

How about those who knows that a casino is dishonest but they help the casino by advertising it through the signature space instead of giving warning to newbies about the dishonest casino? What should we call them who act against their own words?

If someone act against own words, it means he is dishonest.

As for opinion about 1xbit - my opinion is very good. Im receiving payments from them regularly every week for several months. Here is my BTC address:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/bc1q9zupqc045h6azxw8re7ufslawkemukdckjxrdc

For me 1xbit is very honest!

And what do you call someone with a hacked account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg29606229#msg29606229)  that gets paid to help bring new players to a Casino that has one of the worst reputations in the crypto world because of all the players they've refused to pay?

For me, the person that is using the stolen bitgov account is very dishonest!

 I bought this account over 4 years ago.  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.msg29611388#msg29611388) So don't lie that I stole it.

You have the right to have the opinion you want, just like me. 1xBIT is honest for me and I see no reason to lie about that.

You bought the account from someone that stole it from someone else.

You use the account to make money by helping a dishonest Casino find new players, who will likely be scammed.

Just because you aren't scamming directly doesn't mean you bear no responsibility.

Again, I'm only telling the truth. 1xBIT is honest to me.
You are lying because you are making up false accusations! This account was not stolen!
This is the wrong thread, and besides, I'm not going to argue with a liar.

Sorry for off top.

I have not really use your betting betting site to play game, but I was told that beginners who just registered on your gambling site are giving free credits to play a bet. If truly that it's real it's a nice one and also I have heard negative remark about the gambling site which I don't really know if all the people complaining have evidence about it.

It seems you haven't checked the casino at all, or even this thread. This is casino from purchased script and its credibility is quite questionable. The registration bonus has been removed due to the controversy surrounding it. OP is almost inactive here for some time, so don't expect a reply. I don't think this casino will last very long in the market.

Even if you have free credits to test casino, usually you have to deposit some money if you want to withdraw your money. Without deposit withdraw will not be active. I saw just 2-3 casinos, with the opportunity to get your money without deposit. And in fake casino no one will give you opportunity to get any money out.

A deposit is not always required to be able to withdraw the welcome bonus. It is often necessary to achieve a minimum limit of wagering to be able to cash out. Sometimes there are also faucets in casinos that allow to test the games.

Yes, it is. There are some casinos that allow to get deposit bonus out. But most of them are legal bookies that have more information about them, include address, true founders names, etc. And i just 2 times could to withdraw money without depositing. May be i`m a very bad gambler but only 1 time i withdrew money got only on sport bets.

At least, people can know if that site is one of the sites they search for or need to search for the other casino. If the casino allows you to withdraw the money without a deposit, that will be your benefit because that will be rare so you can use that casino to be your favorite. If the site is fake, you can not do anything before you deposit the money but that will be too risky to get a scam by the casino. So you need to make sure and search for the right casino to feel safe when playing gambling.

This topic no longer needs to be discussed. It would be foolish to risk your money in a place like this.
Betabit.casino is unlikely to return to this forum again. If he does, he'll probably just post some nonsense to bump this thread up again.

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Try out the casino with your profits from this gem in the coming weeks.

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How about responding to some of the concerns raised by the members here first? Your casino is suspected of not being provably fair, yet you chose to ignore the issue. How can you expect anyone to take you seriously?

The casino is provably fair and no control over any game out comes is available at any time.

Unique txn hashes are available for each game, which are verifiable on the blockchain so not sure what everyone is on about tbh, just people promoting other casinos jumping on my forum to spread FUD about this casino when in truth there is no evidence of us miss using our users who have a real account and have both deposited and withdrew.

People have both won and lost in the casino - no one is forcing you. What more do you want me to say to prove?

This is why I am offering something outside the casino first for you guys to earn a shilling or 2 so you can 'take a punt'

Not investment advice and I am no advisor - just trying to help - take it or leave it.

If you made 1000% return on the signal I gave previously - would you not try the casino out with a hundred bucks even if just to say thanks, regardless?

Use your head, make money, stop complaining about things all the time and you will be successful.

It seems you don't understand what the term "provably fair" means. TwitchySeal tried to explain it to you here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369598.msg58381994#msg58381994) but you completely ignored his comment.


Buying a $50 casino script online and claiming it's provably fair is not an option if you don't understand the inner workings of that script.

Well, we can't be all as successful as you are.

By the way, you still haven't explained why you are trying to trick users on your website by displaying fake bets made by bots.

He will not give responses to this case as well as to the question related to the fairness of the game that he claim to be provably fair. Lets just ignore this thread, let him bump his own thread with some non senses posts. Once he is tired to do it when there is  no one come to his casino, he will stop.

Nope.  You still haven't fixed it.
https://i.snipboard.io/dms7y9.jpg

If it were provably fair then we would know how the server secret were generated and that it couldn't be manipulated.  Or there just wouldn't be a server secret, it's completely unnecessary and only prevents your card games from being provably fair.

You're basically shuffling the deck without letting us watch, and then allowing us to cut the deck.  There's no proof that you haven't put the cards in a favorable order so that, for example, a royal flush can not be dealt.

In my opinion, the answer is very simple. The casino script he bought just has a built-in bot service. Maybe he could turn it off, but why would he do it? After all, thanks to this, it inspires more confidence among inexperienced users, because they think that these winnings are real.

So, it's okay for you to display fake bets from bots and that would deceive and mislead inexperienced players? Interesting. This is exactly the sort of response you'd expect from a scam promoter like you.

What?  ;D What I wrote is sarcasm. Read it again and maybe you'll understand.

It's also possible that he just can't turn off this bot. Someone who buys a ready script does not have to be able to change its code.

They're still responsible for their decision to use it.

Much like a user that accepts money to advertise a sportsbook that steals money from players on a regular basis (like 1xbit) does not decide how how much money the casino steals, but they are still responsible for promoting a scam.

A surprisingly brilliant comparison.  :-X

I am glad that 1xbit ad is visible, it means that the campaign is working. However, in my opinion, this is a big difference. He owns the casino, I only wear an ad in the signature space. But everyone sees what want to see.

Looking at their trust rating, I can say that I should avoid this at all cost and wearing such scam signature is not a good thing though of course, its hard to stop them and its the responsibility of a newbie to search first before playing on any site, I just hope that they will do this part to avoid such scam projects.

That scam signature has been spreading all over the forum, they keep on marketing that site even if there’s a lot of scam accusation. Anyway, same thing with BetAbit since they market this site on a wrong way and that issue should be solve if they are not a scam one. I didn’t try to play on this site because of that issue.

Yes, the same here. I don't think anyone should. That site screams unprofessionalism and incompetence from the very first glance.

Person A scams people.

Person B is paid by person A to find new people for them to scam.

Is there a difference?  Yes.  But it's not a big difference.

You're person B.

It makes a huge difference to me. However, this thread is not about me.

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There is no doubt that the casino script has been bought. Bot with fake wins certainly do not says anything positive about ethics of the owner. However, we do not know what his intentions are. It is possible that he will take into account all suggestions and make corrections. Personally, I would prefer this casino to turn to be honest rather than enlarge the list of fraudalent casinos.

It is unlikely he will ever do that. He has yet to accept any suggestion or criticism directed at him by forum members. As with many other scams before it, this one will probably be not much more than a failed attempt or will it evolve into a full-blown scam.

To name just a few we've seen over the past few years:
1xbit/1xbet (which you are still actively promoting, btw)
4444sport
888STARZ
AceDBets
Adkinsbet
Betking.io
Kawbet
and many others...

There are two differences between the casinos you mentioned and BetABit.Casino.

BetABit.Casino was founded from a purchased script on Codecanyon:
https://codecanyon.net/item/stake-online-casino-gaming-platform-single-page-application/25370124
The ones you mentioned are professional casinos.
The point is, the owner of BetABit.Casino may not know how it all looks in practice and is actually still just learning.

The second thing is that till now no one has reported any issue regarding withdrawals or blocking at BetABit.Casino.

I do not know what his intentions are, but as I wrote, I hope they are not bad. Of course, we should always be careful with new casinos.

The only difference I see in professional scammers compared to amateur scammers is the scope and extent of their scam. But there is no difference from the perspective of individual players being scammed. The end result is the same - someone's hard-earned money is lost forever. As can be seen from the 1xbit case, they spend a substantial amount of money on promotion and hire dubious characters to do the devil's work on their behalf, which results in more unwary people falling for the scam, closing the circle.

Unfortunately you didn't understand what I meant. Of course, it doesn't matter whether it's a big scam or a small scam. My point was that the behavior of the owner of BetABit.Casino was very unprofessional. It may not be a sign of his bad intentions, but simply a lack of experience in running such a business. I wish it turned out that he will run this casino honestly. You wouldn't want this?

a lot of casinos at their starting stage give fake stats just to attract players. for me, as long as you are not screwed with your games or your deposits/withdrawals, that's fine. but of course, be cautious also as you don't know the site very well. though, it is always preferred if the site will be honest and transparent with their stats. this will give more credibility to the community. if you are hesitant to play, why not play on bigger casinos with proven track record?

People can indeed "take it or leave it".

However, what you're missing is that you are misleadingly advertising your site as provably fair when clearly everything is server based and the whole thing is not provably fair.

It doesn't matter whether there is any actual foul play. The fact that you are engaging in misleading advertisement is shady at best and should be condemned.

The point is, the script that the owner bought is described as Provably Fair. The owner probably cannot even check it himself and relies only on information about the product he bought.
I think it would be best if he just confessed and removed the description that the casino is Provably Fair, then everyone would understand that he was simply cheated by the script's developers.

Do you that some companies management find it very difficult to answer questions regarding to scam if being accused of scamming, and they know that clearing people that they are not involve into scam is very hard to say, but it is the best to do for providing evidence that will interest people that they are not a scam

When I read your posts, I hope these are not health problems, but that you are simply drunk.
When you discuss publicly with people, you should get to know the topic of the conversation, because your posts are completely not understandable. And above all, do not express yourself when drunk.

Sorry for off top guys.