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I've been reporting consecutive posts for quite some time but now, I've checked the rules  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)and there seems to be a bit unclear for me.



In the Altcoin section you have a situation like, an announcement and then reply to a user in a separate post in the same day, should I report it or it's just fine to be like this? Since the bumping score is calculated differently is the reply considered a "bump" there (if you don't have bumping power for example) and it doesn't bump the thread?

If posts have been made consecutively, that's still against the rules and I would report it. In my opinion, rule number 32 is clear enough. It doesn't matter whether the post bumps the thread or not.
I have reported such posts many times and they have been always marked as good.

I'd say a reply is already considered a bump, so just hit report and see whether it gets merged or deleted.

For the bump score, it doesn't matter how many times someone posts:

Even though technically it's against the rules, it might not be that bad to respond to another user in a separate post after a large generic announcement. Without that, the response might be overlooked by scrolling past the announcement.

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I'm pretty sure the "bump-rule" is meant to be for posts, not for the much newer bumping system. So if I'd give a mini bump by posting, and later click the Bump button for a super bump, I don't consider that to be against the rules. I wouldn't like it if I have to keep track of when I clicked the Bump button before I know if I can post in the topic.

Thanks for the replies guys.

I will consider what theymos said here:
and if I decide it's low value post will just report it.

Replays to genuine posts are fine. I keep seeing old style bumping services.

I suggest, if you see such project, inform the OP account first, because I've seen people fooled by those "advertising companies" to keep the project alive by breaking the rules and the owner has no idea about it.

I also would like an option to enable/disable my bumping power when replying on threads in such sections.
This could be applied only for accounts with certain amount of received merit and activity for the past year.

That's very easy: make a post, delete the post, and post again.
I recently tested it and this works:

Unfortunately, this doesn't work if the board doesn't allow you to delete your post within 24 hours.

Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks I wish I knew that earlier, I'll try it next time I need to deal with the spammers in the altcoin section.

My understanding of the rules is that, assuming the posts are not being made at the time the thread was created, you cannot make a new reply if you were the last person to reply to a thread. If you are the last person to post in a thread, you need to either edit your previous post, or remove your previous post immediately after you create your new post.

If you are writing an "update", this is the same as a "bump" and the same rules apply.

These "bumping services" will be of little value to threads in most altcoin subs because merit is required in order to bump threads, which is not trivial to get.

I would not see it as a big deal if you post in a thread in the altcoin sub that results in its bump score increasing. If you are being critical of the project, anyone viewing the thread will see your criticism.

Should this really apply in all cases or it should be considered based on the situation. Signature threads require the managers to post payment updates weekly, and except there was a open spot, they are likely the most recent comment on the thread, merging such replies could get bulky and difficult to manage, as one would not know when any post was made besides the most recent edit.

Bad publicity is still publicity.
Also, most likely, the OP would be more viewed that the most recent comment several pages down.

I will typically not report consecutive posts if they were written more than 5 days apart. However, the rule as written says that consecutive posts are not allowed. The rules are ultimately up to moderator discretion. You always have the option to create a new post instead of editing your previous post, and doing this means it will be more obvious content was added. 
I would not worry too much about this. The impact of making a post in a thread is small.

In Service Announcements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=84.0), I've seen obvious scams almost reach the top of the list after a few people post in it (as a warning).
As a test, I've bumped this topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5359284.0) on page 4. After my post, it was the 6th topic on the first page. I've removed my post again, it takes a bit longer to drop it down again.
Update: 10 minutes later it's back on page 4.

I don't even know why that's technically against the rules (though I can obviously see how it would be abused), since if a person creates a thread they might want to reply to other members' posts, even if that means making multiple posts within a 24-hour period--and I do realize you said as much in the part of your post that I snipped out.

I've started threads where I'm looking for feedback, and I've been guilty of inadvertently bumping my thread more times than the rule allows for, but it was never my intent to bump the thread in order to keep it on top of the section.  I also think the rule was made to prevent "spam bumpers" who do this primarily, but not exclusively, in the ANN sections.  Hopefully that was its intent; otherwise, it'd be hard to carry on genuine discussions.

Yep, when I used to visit the ANN section during the ICO insanity I'd see much the same thing.  Project owners were clearly hiring bumping services (or employing alt accounts) to keep their threads at the top of the page.  It was maddening to look at, because the posts that would bump the threads were all of the "great project!" variety, and it was obvious what was happening.

Well I don't think a thread temporarily being on the first page is going to hurt anything. If a service is an obvious scam, people warning about the service is going to make their potential victims have an easier time seeing the warnings. Similarly, if a service is not a scam per se, but is having problems, having a thread on the first page might alert potential customers of the problems if people are warning about the problems.

For one, repeated bumps of the same thread are very annoying to users who are watching the thread or the board, or just look for new stuff on the board. This is not twitter, I don't need my phone buzzing incessantly with one-sentence replies from the same person. That reason alone is good enough for me to report any consecutive posts without wasting my time trying to guess the intent of the poster.

I said this the other day regarding another discussion here on Meta, but I believe it can either be relevant to this, or get cleared once and for all (so that I have a reference when reporting):


I'll go a bit further and add a few more "local" (since they are local-board based) examples

Example 1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354386.0) (last 3 updates are from today; so <24h between updates)
Example 2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5298619.0) (>24h separation between updates)
Example 3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5193142.0) (thank god this stopped being updated)

PS: sorry, my intention is not to highjack the thread .

I'd love to see an "official" answer here as a future refence

I would say that a single reply is simply dwarfed by the impact of front-page placement and by the (assumed) diminishing relevance of subsequent posts by prospective readers.

In the case of users that read in chronological or reverse order, padded replies can create enough noise to dissuade further reading.
Besides, is it really a case of "so bad we quarantine the scams" a la Investor-based games?