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Title: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: aysg76 on November 08, 2021, 08:41:02 AM
With Bitcoin prices reaching close to $70k in 2021 and setting up new ATH for all the holders i wonder how far we have came up with that and now having only 1 btc is sufficient only or accumulating even some sats is profitable to the holders in long term.

We all could have some different goals like with extra funds we could save more or less btc and every member could set his target no force movement in that but many times we have heard the line we have missed the boat and found out that this is not a new one as people have been claiming this from the initial days also.I found a similar thread and went up to read different posts about the viewpoint of members discussing how many btc they have.

Here is a thread from 2011 : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=12893.20

Some of the interesting quotes from the thread are here:

approx 320. Most in bitbills ;P

About 583, after spending some on Namecoins. I guess it's a lot to some people but of course I'm greedy so I wish I had more.

Reading this makes me really upset that I sold 112 (all) of my BTC a couple months ago for only $118...
Don't feel bad, I sold 5K for 1500€

There are some other members discussing about hundred of owned Bitcoin and selling them at very cheap prices or say some are sad that they only have 200 or 300 coins.Many of them were miners in the early days but what i wonder is whether they still holds all those coins or not?

Here is one more proof to the same:

https://i.ibb.co/ngdzfLd/Screenshot-20211107-165630-01.jpg (https://ibb.co/smxyQVx)

Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=316

The reason why i am making this thread is to make newbies aware that sometimes we feel that we already missed the boat but in reality it has not started the voyage at all.All those coins if stored safely would now be worth millions or even billions if you made the excat calculations.

There are lot of altcoins that might be shining at this time but Bitcoin has been the king of CMC from long time and will remain the same and there are more chances of growth so you better don't get eroded by all such things like you missed the boat and do the same mistake they might have done.Just jump in and enjoy and stay safe.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: NeuroticFish on November 08, 2021, 08:57:14 AM
many times we have heard the line we have missed the boat
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The reason why i am making this thread is to make newbies aware that sometimes we feel that we already missed the boat but in reality it has not started the voyage at all.

Indeed. I've read not long ago a post that tells that best moment to buy bitcoin is "now" and was always "now", whether in 2009, 2010, 2011... and so on until, yeah, now.
The thing is that people thought at some point that they've missed the boat/train because they cannot buy 1000, or 100, or 10, or 1 bitcoin... it's psychological and it means that people don't actually trust bitcoin and they also don't have the patience to leave it grow.

I never tell people to buy now - they have to understand what they do -, but I also not telling them that they've missed the boat/train. The problem is that if people don't understand what they do will buy high, will sell low, then blame you because of their impatience and lack of understanding.

But you're right. The voyage is just starting and the rewards are actually two: reaching to the station you want and also the voyage itself. But not everybody has the heart strong enough for this voyage, which tends to be rather bumpy.

There are lot of altcoins that might be shining at this time but Bitcoin has been the king of CMC from long time and will remain the same and there are more chances of growth so you better don't get eroded by all such things like you missed the boat and do the same mistake they might have done.Just jump in and enjoy and stay safe.

Altcoins can be a good start, but for very-very few lucky ones who enter the right time and sell, again at the right time. On average, indeed, bitcoin is the correct one to focus on. The others are only distractions that can cost you a lot.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: mk4 on November 08, 2021, 09:16:57 AM
Obviously the gains you could get by buying bitcoin right now is not the same as buying bitcoin in 2011, but I really don't get how people think they've "missed the boat" when pretty much most people still thinks that Bitcoin is a scam or just a temporary fad. Heck, we even still see the typical "TuLiPs" argument for some reason.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: dkbit98 on November 08, 2021, 10:05:33 AM
If you really want to have some fun, type the phrase missed the boat in Ninjastic.space website and you will see a lot of people saying that phrase back in 2011 when it was first used I believe :D
I am posting few interesting quoted examples I saw, but there are many more of them showing how wrong we can all be with our limited thinking:

I found out a few weeks ago, but didn't read too much into it. 

Then I came upon some message board discussions last week and decided to test the waters.
I realize that for the mots part I've missed the boat.

It's still amazing to me to think of all of the people who got in early who have rediculous 5-6 x 5870 set up's on a single system and are crunching huge numbers.

Wish I would have found out several months ago :(

Yes It is very interesting times, I can't help  but keep checking the price of the bitcoin. I must admit, part of me wants it to go lower because I missed the boat on this one.

With the current drop into the $15 range, and nobody seems to want to pick it back up to $20. I think most people will not even take the risk at buying it at these lower prices with the hope it will bounce back up to its $20 dollar support.

Someone must have kept it inflated at the $20 dollar level. I have no idea why someone has done that and spent all the money keeping it at that level. I knew that would not hold as nobody has that deep pockets.

A fair and stable price level would be around $8.00.

I am surprised the forum is pretty silent about this latest price drop. This signals many things coming to and end especially the mining. This whole thing may lose much interest soon.

What Bitcoin has been:

1. An incredible, and the most viable, attempt so far, to create an alternative currency (and associated market).
2. The first iteration of what will eventually prove to be a viable digital currency.



What Bitcoin isn't and will never be:

1. A truly viable alternative (much less replacement) to existing currencies.

What Bitcoin will prove to have been:

1. A way in which a few early adopters made significant sums of money at the expense of later buy-ins.
2. An experiment in which more than a few gung-ho anti-establishment types and greedy computer nerds lost a lost of money.
3. The reason for a glut if video cards on eBay being sold at half-price or lower.


While this has been fun, i think its become quite clear that this is a geek obsession and nothing else. Those of you who are trying to "get in on the ground" have already missed the boat for the real profit and are only trying to convince yourself of the longevity of this particular attempt. The game is over, and the security holes (unencrypted wallets, Mt. Gox's absurdities) sealed the deal. There was a small window to get public perception on Bitcoin's side, and that has closed.

Noone real is going to accept Bitcoin, and noone - because of the deflationary promise - is going to spend it either. So continue to enjoy tiny trade volumes and retarded volatility.




Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on November 08, 2021, 12:06:43 PM
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I was having that "teenager thoughts" back in 2011 when I thought Bitcoin was like a coin used only by the criminals especially I hear that it was being used as a means of transaction in dark web. Even though right now I still have the thoughts that I could be more than a millionaire if I bought back in 2011, I don't think there is much point thinking about it anyway. It is just going to give out "spiral effect" on me.

There are those people that surely thinks that they're obliged to buy a "whole" Bitcoin. I never held more than 1 Bitcoin, but I don't really care since I am just like investing to it as like my "side hobby" aside from my full-time job.

Lol. I just checked that Bitcoin is now at 66k, huh?


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: cheezcarls on November 08, 2021, 12:23:48 PM
I can hardly relate to this situation not just once but many times already. My biggest mistake back then was having lack of faith and being hesitant on Bitcoin when it sits around $15k to $16k for a long while and I immediately withdrew it to USDT. And on the next few days, BTCs price exploded up to $30k and I didn’t take that chance. I had another chance to buy when it was $30k or something before the Elon Musk hype era but I was still hesitant, and it went up to $60k.

It plunged down to $30k again, but I am hesitant once again. It jumped to $40k and I was still hesitant and now we’re almost at $70k. So yeah I’ve missed the boat not just on Bitcoin, but on other cryptos (with the exception of ETH and a few other long term alts).


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: IIrik11 on November 08, 2021, 01:46:28 PM
I guess the people who had those coins at an early stage and lost access to them or sold them for cheap has much to regret.

Since they must feel like they had the lottery ticket which hit the Jackpot and they threw it away or put it somewhere they don't remember.

As for us, we are just late to the party.

The fun isn't going to be as much as it must have been if we were here a bit earlier. :( :'(



Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on November 08, 2021, 02:01:42 PM
As for us, we are just late to the party.

The fun isn't going to be as much as it must have been if we were here a bit earlier. :( :'(
Don't you worry 1btc is always 1 btc. Regardless of value either its on 5k or 100k, it will still be the same. We can't go to past just to regret those time that we didn't buy BTC during those time but obviously the gains we can earn jn the future from btc could still be possible since we don't know when it will stop nor it will stop.

Shall the topic should be on bitcoin discussion?


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: mk4 on November 08, 2021, 02:58:53 PM
The fun isn't going to be as much as it must have been if we were here a bit earlier. :( :'(

You could've bought bitcoin at $0.1, but who's to say you weren't going to sell when it 10x'ed to $1? It's easy to have regrets when Bitcoin is already successful. But back then, no one knew for sure how big it would grow.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: GeorgeJohn on November 08, 2021, 06:23:45 PM
Op what you did here via this your thread is expansion of knowledge and also letting newbies know that don't lose hope in any thing, really investment of cryptocurrency is the shortcut to turn to a billionaire over night, right now buying a coin and hold for long periods is the one of major concept i capture here, wether it's ATH coin or bitcoin, but hold for long time frame. Even now people are saying that the price of bitcoin is high, on my own no time to buy cryptocurrency is expensive. What matters is how long will it be in your custody or hand. Currently the price of bitcoin is 66k and before next year they will difference in price value. I think you give everyone idea not newbies alone.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: BitKongy on November 08, 2021, 06:33:56 PM
There is no such thing as missing the boat or the train in crypto space unless you don't know what you are doing, accumulation timing alone is enough to solve all this problem, crypto adoption depends entirely on when you buy so if a coin goes up today it will drop another wait so wait for that another day and fill up your bags, it's also why we have bear market


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: hatshepsut93 on November 08, 2021, 08:08:23 PM
Obviously the gains you could get by buying bitcoin right now is not the same as buying bitcoin in 2011, but I really don't get how people think they've "missed the boat" when pretty much most people still thinks that Bitcoin is a scam or just a temporary fad. Heck, we even still see the typical "TuLiPs" argument for some reason.

My experience is different, I can't remember the last time I heard someone claim that Bitcoin is a scam or a fad. These days I hear more "bitcoin is bad for environment" and "blockchain technology has some merit, but other coins will replace it soon".

But I think it's not really important what some random people on the Internet or in real life say, because they are not voting with their wallets.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: illiki23 on November 08, 2021, 08:11:50 PM
To be fair crypto 'boats' are well known for crashing to shore.  Some people might say risk it and swim out right now but I wouldn't be suprised if there are more opportunities on the horizon. 
Ugh I believe in some of these coins so I am almost tempted to swim but oh well..


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: sheenshane on November 08, 2021, 10:54:04 PM
..many times we have heard the line we have missed the boat and found out that this is not a new one as people have been claiming this from the initial days also.
Those days, Bitcoin is still young and didn't have a good reputation in most countries because it's usually involved illegality, cybercrime, or any fraud activities that make Bitcoin become dirty to the eye of the government and the community, it might nobody believe yet on Bitcoin.  After such time they realized it and now they care claiming that they have missed the boat.

I also now think that maybe I already accumulate 1 Bitcoin from earning signature but I didn't feel regret if I sell on that day, because it was probably helped me so much.  Dont blame yourself if have to sell your Bitcoin on an early stage, as long as you have profited on it, that is fine.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Darker45 on November 09, 2021, 01:25:09 AM
To newbies, if you feel like you already missed the boat, just take the courage and buy. If you don't, the joke's on you. You will be saying "I missed the boat" forever. We've read and heard of it when Bitcoin was $1, $10, $100, $1,000, $10,000, and so on. Buy now and face no regret in the future. Your only options are either you continue crying over spilled milk or you end the cycle and start stacking Sats. Don't ever commit the mistake of crying over the past and not doing something in the present. Yes, you may have missed the boat at $1, $10, $100, $1,000, $10,000 but you are the problem if you will continue to miss the boat at $100,000, $200,000, $300,000, and so on.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Coin_trader on November 09, 2021, 01:43:17 AM
Simply guy with steel balls that can hodl and Trust the Bitcoin price is the only one who will benefit on it. Because of this thread, I remember the 2017 news that a guy his house for Bitcoin then live in the forest waiting for the ultimate crypto boom which is the current trend we are experiencing right now. I wonder what happened to him or if he is still updated on crypto but if really hold until know and bought during the dump which is sub 10K USD. He can now buy back his house or much better and still have extra money to live a happy life.

News: https://www.businessinsider.com/man-in-the-netherlands-sold-everything-for-bitcoin-2017-10


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: tranthidung on November 09, 2021, 01:55:05 AM
Please check some charts and have your thoughts

  • Never look back price (https://stats.buybitcoinworldwide.com/never-look-back-price/)
  • Days above price bands (https://stats.buybitcoinworldwide.com/days-above-price-band/)
  • Bitcoin Profitable days (https://www.lookintobitcoin.com/charts/bitcoin-profitable-days/)
In general, Bitcoin is bullish on yearly candles so that most of holders will be in profitable condition. It makes a new all time high recently so almost if you bought Bitcoin at any price, you are probably have profit. Take it or not, it is your decision and depends on your expectation.

The point is you should reserve 10% (at least) of your Bitcoin for next 10 years. You should not sell all of them, even if you take profit. Why?

Because if you compare the value of Bitcoin today with its price 5 years ago, you can see the difference. 5 years ago, if you had 10 Bitcoin and sold 9 BTC, you would have less than $30k. With 1 BTC reserved and hold till today, you can sell it above $67k

It is my point. If today you have 1 BTC, and really want to take profit, do it with 0.9 BTC, and reserve 0.1 BTC for next 10 years.

Check Equivalent Network Time (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331087) to see what will happen in 2032
  • 99.2% BTC will be mined
  • It will take ~ 12 mins 48 secs to mine 1 BTC compares to only 48 secs now


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: mk4 on November 09, 2021, 02:24:24 AM
My experience is different, I can't remember the last time I heard someone claim that Bitcoin is a scam or a fad. These days I hear more "bitcoin is bad for environment" and "blockchain technology has some merit, but other coins will replace it soon".
You still see it quite a lot, but yea the environmental argument has been getting a lot more traction recently. I guess it's simply due to the fact that "bitcoin is bad for environment" is a lot easier to grasp for the masses, whereas the scam argument takes a slight bit of brainpower lol.

But I think it's not really important what some random people on the Internet or in real life say, because they are not voting with their wallets.
I'd argue that people not buying bitcoin is actually them somewhat voting with their wallets.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: pooya87 on November 09, 2021, 04:58:32 AM
Another strange thing about "boat missers", that is less common these days is that they used to always claimed that buying 1 whole bitcoin is now too expensive for them as if you only had one choice and that was buying a whole bitcoin and fractions of a bitcoin were never possible!

You still see it quite a lot, but yea the environmental argument has been getting a lot more traction recently. I guess it's simply due to the fact that "bitcoin is bad for environment" is a lot easier to grasp for the masses, whereas the scam argument takes a slight bit of brainpower lol.
Maybe it is just that they lost their biggest FUD that involved China ("China controls bitcoin" then "China banned bitcoin, bitcoin is gonna die"), so now they need another replacement.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Saint-loup on November 09, 2021, 12:39:41 PM
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The reason why i am making this thread is to make newbies aware that sometimes we feel that we already missed the boat but in reality it has not started the voyage at all.All those coins if stored safely would now be worth millions or even billions if you made the excat calculations.

There are lot of altcoins that might be shining at this time but Bitcoin has been the king of CMC from long time and will remain the same and there are more chances of growth so you better don't get eroded by all such things like you missed the boat and do the same mistake they might have done.Just jump in and enjoy and stay safe.
I'm sorry but your message is a little bit inconsistent in my opinion, on one hand you enjoin newbies to "stay safe" and on the other hand you encourage them to buy a high volatile (and then risky) asset at its All Time High.  :-\ That's not a responsible behavior IMO. Newbies should be very cautious before investing large amounts of money at the ATH of any asset but more especially cryptocurrencies because they are among the highest volatile assets available. They should DY(T)OR before investing, only invest what they can afford to lose and don't except more guarantees than in a gambling game. BTC and the crypto world won't earn anything good in the long run by creating disappointed, frustrated and angry people.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Lucius on November 09, 2021, 02:29:30 PM
Newbies should be very cautious before investing large amounts of money at the ATH of any asset but more especially cryptocurrencies because they are among the highest volatile assets available.

Newbies should not invest in anything risky until they know exactly what it is about, FOMO is their biggest enemy, and ignorance is a sharp sword hanging over their heads. But I also think you misunderstood a bit what @aysg76 meant, because I don't see him advising someone to invest large sums of money, but to try to learn something from the mistakes others have made in the past.

They should DY(T)OR before investing, only invest what they can afford to lose and don't except more guarantees than in a gambling game. BTC and the crypto world won't earn anything good in the long run by creating disappointed, frustrated and angry people.

Any investor in Bitcoin (and even some altcoins) who invested a few hundred dollars a few years ago, today has a significant amount of money in their possession. Investing in the long-run has therefore proven to be a very successful and profitable way, and if someone is disappointed, angry or frustrated - one should not blame Bitcoin for that, because we all had the same chances, some took advantage of them, some did not.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Mpamaegbu on November 09, 2021, 03:12:56 PM
Lol. I just checked that Bitcoin is now at 66k, huh?
Didn't a forecast point to $100,000 before the end of this year? I believe we still have a lot of space to fill in that one, hopefully it gets there. Like someone would say, this is the month of Movember for cryptos. This period has proved to be good for cryptos every year.

I guess the people who had those coins at an early stage and lost access to them or sold them for cheap has much to regret.
Exactly! And they are likely to be in the majority to FUD about Bitcoin whenever it begins a rally. Regret is such a nag. Generally, those who scream they missed the boat are often those who saw it cheap but were skeptical buying in, hoping price will dip further or they sold too early to cash out with the game plan of buying back which never happened. It hurts really to be in such a situation. But then, that's the price people pay for doing business.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: AakZaki on November 09, 2021, 03:33:43 PM
My experience is different, I can't remember the last time I heard someone claim that Bitcoin is a scam or a fad. These days I hear more "bitcoin is bad for environment" and "blockchain technology has some merit, but other coins will replace it soon".

But I think it's not really important what some random people on the Internet or in real life say, because they are not voting with their wallets.
when bitcoin was still not as hype as it is today and achieved a lot of adoption, bitcoin was always said to be a scam even bitcoin was predicted to drop drastically until it was no longer valuable.
But the fact is that currently bitcoin is an expensive asset that is widely discussed and many investors are just starting to enter.
There is still nothing that can replace bitcoin and it has been maintained to this day.

People who say some negative things about things they don't know are certainly showing their ignorance. They will regret saying bitcoin is a scam.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: blatchcorn on November 09, 2021, 03:59:49 PM

Indeed. I've read not long ago a post that tells that best moment to buy bitcoin is "now" and was always "now", whether in 2009, 2010, 2011... and so on until, yeah, now.


People said its too late to buy BTC when it was 1$, they said this again and again when it went up to 10$, 100$ and 1000$. Even today when BTC is touching 70k, we are hearing same voices. Buying BTC at ATH is not a good idea, we must buy when its bearish. 
As far as missing the opportunity is concerned, we are never in a position to predict what maximum price BTC will attain. So there is no absolute opportunity that is missed, its always open.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: NeuroticFish on November 09, 2021, 04:08:17 PM
Buying BTC at ATH is not a good idea, we must buy when its bearish. 

That's correct, but it's not how human psychology works. ATH brings enthusiasm, ATH brings FOMO, ATH has bigger chance for one to open his wallet. If he has the patience to get over the next "crypto winter", he has won.
On the other hand, in a bear market people tend to wait and wait and wait again for lower price, then they're fear the price will never rise again, then.. oops, it's ATH again. And this is how some find reasons after reasons for staying away.

While I agree ATH is not a best moment to invest, if one made his mind, best is to DCA, whether there's ATH or not: buy multiple smaller amounts over longer period of time. This way one will clearly not buy always at ATH, this way one may even have the opportunity to buy the dip and the overall sentiment and investment may look really good. But, again, one has to be sure on what he's doing, one has to understand bitcoin, from what limited supply means to the market wild fluctuations and wallet security too.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: famososMuertos on November 09, 2021, 07:45:37 PM
The "missed the boat" is an analogy that continues to be ephemeral and perhaps sadly used to justify itself for whatever reason, but if you analyze it in its fullness it means that it always depends on us to be there because that boat has been setting sail for new trips to new emotions to new hopes, with bitcoin the stupid thing is not to lose it once, it is to never take it, the opportunity to take it is always there in its fair measure, even the long-awaited $ 70k ticket I assure you that it still remains a good chance.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: hatshepsut93 on November 09, 2021, 08:34:59 PM
You still see it quite a lot, but yea the environmental argument has been getting a lot more traction recently. I guess it's simply due to the fact that "bitcoin is bad for environment" is a lot easier to grasp for the masses, whereas the scam argument takes a slight bit of brainpower lol.

It's hard to call something a scam when it existed for 12 years, has been a stunning success and there's zero evidence of things that define the word "scam". And the argument about environment is successful because environmentalism is on the rise, and there's a grain of truth to it, but no one asks what "bad for the environment" exactly means and what are the implications of it.

I'd argue that people not buying bitcoin is actually them somewhat voting with their wallets.

The fact that people are not buying Bitcoin is not affecting Bitcoin's price or Bitcoin network.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: aysg76 on November 10, 2021, 07:20:33 AM
Another strange thing about "boat missers", that is less common these days is that they used to always claimed that buying 1 whole bitcoin is now too expensive for them as if you only had one choice and that was buying a whole bitcoin and fractions of a bitcoin were never possible!
Totally agree on this point that first they assume they have missed the boat or some think it will not grow and were holding some other coins of their preferences and with prices rising they start to claim that buying one bitcoin is too expensive for them like at $50k ,$60k and they will continue the same lame excuses even at high and low prices also and fake out things like you can't buy the lowest denominations also in bitcoin.How in the hell they could forget that part which is you can buy btc worth $50 or low also keeping up the transactions fees and who needs to go for full Bitcoin if you can have part of it.But still they ignore this an keep on repeating new stuff and as you said we see less of them these days.

https://i.ibb.co/gFrGSPk/Screenshot-20211110-113607-01.jpg (https://ibb.co/2YFwvsG)

I have also been the one who missed early opportunity but didn't want to regret a lot making such excuses I missed the boat so have started to invest what i can afford and been motivating others also through this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5349270.0

It's hard to call something a scam when it existed for 12 years, has been a stunning success and there's zero evidence of things that define the word "scam". And the argument about environment is successful because environmentalism is on the rise, and there's a grain of truth to it, but no one asks what "bad for the environment" exactly means and what are the implications of it.
People's, governments and banks have claimed it to be scam in the past and have made tons of allegations against it like bitcoin being used for criminal activities but now they are the ones accepting it and want to allocate more and more bitcoins due to high profits associated with it and with complete decentralization and security of funds.They know it can't be stopped so why not benefit from it and have taken back their words which is their past habit.

But I also think you misunderstood a bit what @aysg76 meant, because I don't see him advising someone to invest large sums of money, but to try to learn something from the mistakes others have made in the past.
Yes i am not suggesting anyone to allocate the huge budget towards bitcoin but only pointing out that people in the past and at current time period are not different at all and still make the same excuses that we missed the boat so instead of doing this go for investment to enjoy later on.We still are somewhat not too late and prices are $65k-$68k range and we might seem to reach more high so make some moves.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Lucius on November 10, 2021, 11:54:09 AM
Yes i am not suggesting anyone to allocate the huge budget towards bitcoin but only pointing out that people in the past and at current time period are not different at all and still make the same excuses that we missed the boat so instead of doing this go for investment to enjoy later on.We still are somewhat not too late and prices are $65k-$68k range and we might seem to reach more high so make some moves.

I'm pretty sure that one day people will regret the missed time when the price of Bitcoin was only about $60 000, just as many today feel the same when they remember how cheap Bitcoin was just a little over 1 year ago - I believe most remember what happened in March 2020 when a pandemic was declared, the price of 1 BTC fell below $5000.

It is true that it is never too late to invest in Bitcoin, but it is also true that you need to know how to choose the right moment - history has shown that time just before or after halving is an ideal entry point even for those who just want short-term profit. The worst thing is to do nothing and talk all the time about what it would be like to invest in Bitcoin - some people never learn and stay on the sidelines forever.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on November 10, 2021, 12:49:47 PM
happened in March 2020 when a pandemic was declared, the price of 1 BTC fell below $5000.
It we way lower than $5k. On 12th March it was $4,410 to be exact now $66k plus.

There are no missing boat, missing train or missing bus or may be in the future missing rocket. Whenever one have spare fiat just buy. Keep accumulating again Dollar Cost Average. Bitcoin is not for people who buy but can not hold for at least few years.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Coyster on November 10, 2021, 06:56:08 PM
I'm sorry but your message is a little bit inconsistent in my opinion, on one hand you enjoin newbies to "stay safe" and on the other hand you encourage them to buy a high volatile (and then risky) asset at its All Time High.  :-\ That's not a responsible behavior IMO. Newbies should be very cautious before investing large amounts of money at the ATH of any asset but more especially cryptocurrencies because they are among the highest volatile assets available. They should DY(T)OR before investing, only invest what they can afford to lose and don't except more guarantees than in a gambling game. BTC and the crypto world won't earn anything good in the long run by creating disappointed, frustrated and angry people.
I don't think OP is actually 'encouraging' anyone to buy BTC, this post is just like a sort of reference to the past were people actually thought they had 'missed the boat', but if you look at the price of Bitcoin right now, then you'd understand that they actually didn't miss a thing at all, absolutely nothing. And then again, imo, there is actually nothing wrong about buying Bitcoin in its all time high, it isn't a pump and dump coin, and if you're not a get rich quick investor, then you'd definitely make profits in the long run. You're correct when you say people should do their own research, obviously, as an investor, you should find out about the coin you want to invest in and "invest only what you can afford to lose", but I'm pretty sure that anyone who does such research judiciously will under the history of the Bitcoin network and wouldn't be fazed to invest at absolutely anytime.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Trojane on November 10, 2021, 11:00:26 PM
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The "missed the boat" is an analogy that continues to be ephemeral and perhaps sadly used to justify itself for whatever reason, but if you analyze it in its fullness it means that it always depends on us to be there because that boat has been setting sail for new trips to new emotions to new hopes, with bitcoin the stupid thing is not to lose it once, it is to never take it, the opportunity to take it is always there in its fair measure, even the long-awaited $ 70k ticket I assure you that it still remains a good chance.
You mean 70k dollars for one Btc? Well am not against BTC rising to its peak but You should even consider the flux about everything in your country right now because most peeps have these urge; eagerness to buy BTC but the government policy and the state of the country they are doesn't even permit them eat satisfactorily not to talk of buying an ASSET like BTC.
He shouldn't be lamenting about " missing any boat" , after all nobody knew bitcoin would blow up to this heist
 Most times , they would love to own as much BTC'ss as possible but gone are the days when BTC would either be mined by anyone or achieved at a peanut rate  :)
Trojane💎


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: yagamitaichi on November 10, 2021, 11:50:18 PM
The reason why i am making this thread is to make newbies aware that sometimes we feel that we already missed the boat but in reality it has not started the voyage at all.All those coins if stored safely would now be worth millions or even billions if you made the excat calculations.

There are lot of altcoins that might be shining at this time but Bitcoin has been the king of CMC from long time and will remain the same and there are more chances of growth so you better don't get eroded by all such things like you missed the boat and do the same mistake they might have done.Just jump in and enjoy and stay safe.
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Thank you for creating this thread. Now I realize that it is never too late to invest in BTC or any other coin. I found out about BTC in the middle of 2016 after my computer was hit by ransomware and the creator of the ransomware requested BTC as a means of payment to recover the data on my computer. At that time the price of BTC was approximately 434.46 $. Because I don't want to pay for it, the data on my computer couldn't be recovered. At that time I was also not interested in investing in BTC. Because I think it's just a hype that will fade with time. But I did not expect that in its journey the price of BTC has increased from year to year. Of course at the moment I can't invest in BTC because the price is very high. I am currently starting to invest in coins at an affordable price. With the hope that the coins that I have invested will benefit me in the future.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: jerry0 on November 11, 2021, 12:16:35 AM
Do you think later on people would say man i wished i bought btc at 60k? 


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: aysg76 on November 11, 2021, 12:30:20 PM
I'm pretty sure that one day people will regret the missed time when the price of Bitcoin was only about $60 000, just as many today feel the same when they remember how cheap Bitcoin was just a little over 1 year ago - I believe most remember what happened in March 2020 when a pandemic was declared, the price of 1 BTC fell below $5000.

It is true that it is never too late to invest in Bitcoin, but it is also true that you need to know how to choose the right moment - history has shown that time just before or after halving is an ideal entry point even for those who just want short-term profit. The worst thing is to do nothing and talk all the time about what it would be like to invest in Bitcoin - some people never learn and stay on the sidelines forever.
That's what i also wonder that how people are busy making lame excuses always when Bitcoin prices are low - "that it's not going to survive and it will be dead" and when the prices are high they say - "we miss the boat" and this will continue as always.The pandemic prior time was not much historical for bitcoin growth as they were too low but slowly when the investors find the new way to gain some profits and secure their future the prices also start to surge heavily and see now we are above the $60k at this time.Same is the situation now also.Yes it's not too late but waiting for the boat to leave will make you no coiner only and boat only have 21 million seats many occupied and rest filling out fast if you know what i mean.

~snip~
Quote the original reply or any post you want to reply in proper way as it doesn't seems right and indicates that you have written all the stuff so make it correct.

See i am only motivating you all to invest within time and not always make such excuses as it won't benefit you.But i have strictly mentioned bitcoin but if you apply the same to other shitcoins then it will not work because it's better to miss shitcoin's boat as it will sink soon so don't enter it but if still you want to do that do it on your own risk.

I'm sorry but your message is a little bit inconsistent in my opinion, on one hand you enjoin newbies to "stay safe" and on the other hand you encourage them to buy a high volatile (and then risky) asset at its All Time High.  :-\ That's not a responsible behavior IMO. Newbies should be very cautious before investing large amounts of money at the ATH of any asset but more especially cryptocurrencies because they are among the highest volatile assets available. They should DY(T)OR before investing, only invest what they can afford to lose and don't except more guarantees than in a gambling game. BTC and the crypto world won't earn anything good in the long run by creating disappointed, frustrated and angry people.
This is not a trading guide where i have asked newbies to invest large sums of money as i myself also don't have huge funds available to invest so why would i do that? Second this thread is only indicating to some past mistakes of the members who ignore the bitcoin importance and keep on repeating the same phrase and now regrets it so just avoid those mistakes was my concern.You are saying that i said it to buy at ATH so ask yourself people who have invested at ATH of 2017 which was around $20k are now in loss or dead? They have gained more than 4x on their investment at the current prices.It is just our way of overviewing the things so be wise man.The whole market is risky but the main risk is not to have any bitcoin in future.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: aoluain on November 11, 2021, 01:35:14 PM
I think there are still a lot of people who are getting interested in Bitcoin but when they
see the price of 1 full coin they are put off while not realising they can buy Satoshi's.

There are still people out there who's target is to own 1 Bitcoin, its getting more and more
difficult in this current bull market.

There are those who in the very near future will look back and realise they missed the boat
by not buying NOW.

Thumbs up to @NeuroticFish

To reference Michael Saylor (for the second time today) he stated before that he would
wake up thinking if he had bought enough, he realises the nest time to buy is NOW.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: coinism on November 11, 2021, 01:40:34 PM
I'm pretty sure that one day people will regret the missed time when the price of Bitcoin was only about $60 000, just as many today feel the same when they remember how cheap Bitcoin was just a little over 1 year ago - I believe most remember what happened in March 2020 when a pandemic was declared, the price of 1 BTC fell below $5000.

It is true that it is never too late to invest in Bitcoin, but it is also true that you need to know how to choose the right moment - history has shown that time just before or after halving is an ideal entry point even for those who just want short-term profit. The worst thing is to do nothing and talk all the time about what it would be like to invest in Bitcoin - some people never learn and stay on the sidelines forever.

Bitcoin price is very fluctuating these days and right now bitcoin is reaching new ATHs every other day. If someone wants to buy now then he must buy on dips or DCA (Dollar-Cost Averaging ) i.e. buy in small chunks at different prices. Investing all money at ATH is not good idea. Also you must have an exit strategy, in case market take a wild wing in down word direction.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: famososMuertos on November 11, 2021, 02:48:54 PM
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The "missed the boat" is an analogy that continues to be ephemeral and perhaps sadly used to justify itself for whatever reason, but if you analyze it in its fullness it means that it always depends on us to be there because that boat has been setting sail for new trips to new emotions to new hopes, with bitcoin the stupid thing is not to lose it once, it is to never take it, the opportunity to take it is always there in its fair measure, even the long-awaited $ 70k ticket I assure you that it still remains a good chance.
You mean 70k dollars for one Btc? Well am not against BTC rising to its peak but You should even consider the flux about everything in your country right now because most peeps have these urge; eagerness to buy BTC but the government policy and the state of the country they are doesn't even permit them eat satisfactorily not to talk of buying an ASSET like BTC.
He shouldn't be lamenting about " missing any boat" , after all nobody knew bitcoin would blow up to this heist
 Most times , they would love to own as much BTC'ss as possible but gone are the days when BTC would either be mined by anyone or achieved at a peanut rate  :)
Trojane💎
Hi,
First of all, no one should regret losing the bitcoin in its early days, if you read me I always say it, sometimes literally, sometimes not.

On the other hand, the $ 70k that I mention is not literal, it is in a figurative sense related to any price increase that Bitcoin has.

And finally, Picasso's painting cannot be bought in parts but bitcoin of course can, then the art of bitcoin is so beautiful that today it only takes $ 0.0006 ... to be part of the journey.

fM Capiche!  :)


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Lucius on November 11, 2021, 04:47:23 PM
That's what i also wonder that how people are busy making lame excuses always when Bitcoin prices are low - "that it's not going to survive and it will be dead" and when the prices are high they say - "we miss the boat" and this will continue as always.

I believe in the theory that these are mostly people who want short-term profits, and when the price is low and relatively stable then they have no motive to invest - and when it is as high as lately, then they wait for a big correction to happen. These are actually very indecisive people, not only about Bitcoin, but mostly about everything they do in life. I know some such people in real life, and I stopped trying to understand them a long time ago - if you've been talking about something for 5+ years and you haven't done anything to make it happen, then no one can help you.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: blatchcorn on November 11, 2021, 05:05:36 PM

That's correct, but it's not how human psychology works. ATH brings enthusiasm, ATH brings FOMO, ATH has bigger chance for one to open his wallet. If he has the patience to get over the next "crypto winter", he has won.

On the other hand, in a bear market people tend to wait and wait and wait again for lower price, then they're fear the price will never rise again, then.. oops, it's ATH again. And this is how some find reasons after reasons for staying away.


Such things are very well explained by Warren Buffet "Buy when everyone fears to buy and sell when everyone greedy to buy". But we do reverse of it most of the time. When someone of selling in panic during dips, someone is buying (the wise one).


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While I agree ATH is not a best moment to invest, if one made his mind, best is to DCA, whether there's ATH or not: buy multiple smaller amounts over longer period of time. This way one will clearly not buy always at ATH, this way one may even have the opportunity to buy the dip and the overall sentiment and investment may look really good. But, again, one has to be sure on what he's doing, one has to understand bitcoin, from what limited supply means to the market wild fluctuations and wallet security too.

IMO don't jump with your whole capital during the bull run, even if you are doing DCA then do that with 20-30% of your capital. Its very risky when BTC is at its ATH. The wild swings can go in any direction. Its the time when Whales are selling while the amateur investor are busy buying.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: aysg76 on November 12, 2021, 09:24:46 AM
That's what i also wonder that how people are busy making lame excuses always when Bitcoin prices are low - "that it's not going to survive and it will be dead" and when the prices are high they say - "we miss the boat" and this will continue as always.

I believe in the theory that these are mostly people who want short-term profits, and when the price is low and relatively stable then they have no motive to invest - and when it is as high as lately, then they wait for a big correction to happen. These are actually very indecisive people, not only about Bitcoin, but mostly about everything they do in life. I know some such people in real life, and I stopped trying to understand them a long time ago - if you've been talking about something for 5+ years and you haven't done anything to make it happen, then no one can help you.
People wait for something revolutionary to happen and when they have it in front of them they have it they just ignore it like anything has not happened yet.Same is the case with these people and they will always have two sided lame excuses which hinders them to see the harsh reality that governments are the ones that don't want the country and people to grow and everything they are doing is for their own personal benefits only.

But still we can't say that we will see less or more of these kind of people and the simple is to just put them aside and keep going the way you find it suitable to progress and for us it's bitcoin that is the best option available to the society.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Rengga Jati on November 12, 2021, 11:03:35 PM
Once again, regret is everywhere.
Regret of selling too early
regret of feeling late to buy Bitcoin
confusing about this is the right time to buy or not

We always see some regrets like this, in every period, in every rising up of the Bitcoin price.
And this will not be stoppable because there are so many people here with their own regret.
but should it be?
if this is about the people who always regret it, yes, there must be many people who did it moreover those who have a hundred Bitcoin before 2012 and see the Bitcoin price right now.
But I am also sure that many people from that years too also have many Bitcoin right now and have earning so much money. Because of the patient and trust to Bitcoin


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Saint-loup on November 14, 2021, 08:21:26 AM
I'm sorry but your message is a little bit inconsistent in my opinion, on one hand you enjoin newbies to "stay safe" and on the other hand you encourage them to buy a high volatile (and then risky) asset at its All Time High.  :-\ That's not a responsible behavior IMO. Newbies should be very cautious before investing large amounts of money at the ATH of any asset but more especially cryptocurrencies because they are among the highest volatile assets available. They should DY(T)OR before investing, only invest what they can afford to lose and don't except more guarantees than in a gambling game. BTC and the crypto world won't earn anything good in the long run by creating disappointed, frustrated and angry people.
This is not a trading guide where i have asked newbies to invest large sums of money as i myself also don't have huge funds available to invest so why would i do that? Second this thread is only indicating to some past mistakes of the members who ignore the bitcoin importance and keep on repeating the same phrase and now regrets it so just avoid those mistakes was my concern.You are saying that i said it to buy at ATH so ask yourself people who have invested at ATH of 2017 which was around $20k are now in loss or dead? They have gained more than 4x on their investment at the current prices.It is just our way of overviewing the things so be wise man.The whole market is risky but the main risk is not to have any bitcoin in future.
I'm sorry but where have you seen that late 2017 newcomers have gained "more than 4x"(sic) times their initial investment?  
Firstly, BTC has never reached $80 000 to date, so no $20k buyer has been able to earn 4x times his initial investment...
But more seriously, most of them have certainly sold their bag several years ago yet, and are in loss of course. So saying the main risk is not to have any bitcoin in future to a newbie is not responsible. No asset on earth is able to grow endlessly, thinking like that is just being survivorship biased.
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/survivorship_bias.png


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Smartvirus on November 14, 2021, 10:11:32 AM
The notion of 'I have missed the boat' is just how some prospective investors who would have made a fortune for themselves keep loosing out on opportunities. In that singular instant, you keep waiting and anticipate for a dip, a best time to buy yet, your unable to ascertain or identify this dip even when it comes becuase, the archived dip isn't just dip enough for you and so do the procrastination comes in and the market continues to grow. Making more and more highs and in turn, profits for the investors that took the risk to buy and hodl. Bitcoin have got more future about it than we have it now, should you have a spare cash and  some money you could afford to loose, buy and hodl is key.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: aysg76 on November 14, 2021, 12:59:30 PM
I'm sorry but where have you seen that late 2017 newcomers have gained "more than 4x"(sic) times their initial investment?  
Firstly, BTC has never reached $80 000 to date, so no $20k buyer has been able to earn 4x times his initial investment...
But more seriously, most of them have certainly sold their bag several years ago yet, and are in loss of course. So saying the main risk is not to have any bitcoin in future to a newbie is not responsible. No asset on earth is able to grow endlessly, thinking like that is just being survivorship biased.
Actually what i was referring to 2017 crash when bitcoin prices fell below $10k also to the bottom levels and or even lower have gained enough at this time if they have hold till this time as at current we are at $64k so just make the returns.

Second when i said about $20k the rise is about 3.45x and i want to write about it but forgot to mention approximately with it because we have seen peak points at $69k in last rally so from $20k it's around that much returns so my point.

The notion of 'I have missed the boat' is just how some prospective investors who would have made a fortune for themselves keep loosing out on opportunities. In that singular instant, you keep waiting and anticipate for a dip, a best time to buy yet, your unable to ascertain or identify this dip even when it comes becuase, the archived dip isn't just dip enough for you and so do the procrastination comes in and the market continues to grow. Making more and more highs and in turn, profits for the investors that took the risk to buy and hodl. Bitcoin have got more future about it than we have it now, should you have a spare cash and  some money you could afford to loose, buy and hodl is key.
For some dip is the indication to sell and they panic sell and later on regret their decision but for some dip is opportunity to buy and they accumulate more through DCA and that's what we need to learn not from these boat missers as they will always stay the same.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: aysg76 on November 17, 2021, 08:20:17 AM
So now the bitcoin prices are down to $59k and still we are not seeing some people getting on the boat and those who claims it to be expensive will still not invest at these $10k dips which are worth investing but no they will be saying that this is bubble or any other shitcoin will progress more and later on regret same.Just a reminder for you all who wants to invest in Bitcoin or are currently holding it :


https://i.ibb.co/YLFWnxZ/Screenshot-20211114-161401-01.jpg (https://ibb.co/kSsybt1)

If you hold btc just relax and enjoy or the best is to have the btc sandwich with dips that could feed you for entire life.Taking two steps back mean the jungle king is preparing for high jump...

But few days/weeks/months/years we will still see people claiming that we missed the boat and i can give you many such statement.The btc will not wait for you so why do we wait.The simple thing is to buy btc and wait rather than waiting to buy bitcoin.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: dbc23 on November 17, 2021, 06:41:51 PM
The fun isn't going to be as much as it must have been if we were here a bit earlier. :( :'(

You could've bought bitcoin at $0.1, but who's to say you weren't going to sell when it 10x'ed to $1? It's easy to have regrets when Bitcoin is already successful. But back then, no one knew for sure how big it would grow.
This is where the saying "Bitcoin is for holders" stands true. While Bitcoin was around $0.1 and grew to $100 many sold, some couldn't sell theirs possibly because the misplaced their seed phrase and when the found it they sold out. No one knew Bitcoin would grow this big even uptil now a few people still see Bitcoin as one of those online scam that would disappear into tin air someday


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: carolynpatterson on November 18, 2021, 04:24:54 AM
I think it’s still not very late and we can still hop-on the boat of bitcoin. Just imagine how high bitcoin prices will be when every country will adopt it legally. That time we’ll be too late to buy bitcoin.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: aysg76 on November 18, 2021, 08:24:46 AM
This is where the saying "Bitcoin is for holders" stands true. While Bitcoin was around $0.1 and grew to $100 many sold, some couldn't sell theirs possibly because the misplaced their seed phrase and when the found it they sold out. No one knew Bitcoin would grow this big even uptil now a few people still see Bitcoin as one of those online scam that would disappear into tin air someday

There will always be some percentage who will continue to criticize it,panic sell at loss,say we miss the opportunity to buy and now it's too expensive but you might notice that slowly with increasing btc importance and price rally those who claims it to be bubble have been reduced and now they are the one's applauding the innovation and making speculations that it will cross $100k or so and even banks are providing crypto services.See how time flies and people mindset changes with it but for some it will always be the fiat that is safe and they lack for future foresight.

I think it’s still not very late and we can still hop-on the boat of bitcoin. Just imagine how high bitcoin prices will be when every country will adopt it legally. That time we’ll be too late to buy bitcoin.
If you consider it from the past we are already up 68000% when we touch ATH few days back and just imagine the returns for those who have hold for all these years.It is right that we can still invest at this time even if want to invest low amounts as it's better to be holder if you can't become a whale and it's far better than being a no-coiner.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: tvplus006 on November 21, 2021, 12:42:12 PM
I think it’s still not very late and we can still hop-on the boat of bitcoin. Just imagine how high bitcoin prices will be when every country will adopt it legally. That time we’ll be too late to buy bitcoin.

Indeed, those who got acquainted with bitcoins recently could not buy BTC at a very low price. But this cannot be considered a mistake. But the real mistake for them is the fact that they now know about BTC, but do not buy it to hold. It is such people who will later say that they missed the chance to change their fate.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: aysg76 on November 21, 2021, 01:28:18 PM
Indeed, those who got acquainted with bitcoins recently could not buy BTC at a very low price. But this cannot be considered a mistake. But the real mistake for them is the fact that they now know about BTC, but do not buy it to hold. It is such people who will later say that they missed the chance to change their fate.
We don't have time machine to go back in the past so that we could accumulate btc at low prices of $1 or even $100 because now we know how much it's worth but for those who are waiting to buy them at low price are just imagining this because we can't expect it to go to 2013 levels or so but if you see investing at $58k now and if you hold it for some years and then you read the green candles above $100k you could easily have some decent profits in your hand.But for the boat missers there will always be some excuses for them that it's too expensive or it's bubble so we can't change them so better we hold and buy at these dips.



Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Shamm on November 21, 2021, 03:35:57 PM

Reading this makes me really upset that I sold 112 (all) of my BTC a couple months ago for only $118...

Don't feel bad, I sold 5K for 1500€


There are some other members discussing about hundred of owned Bitcoin and selling them at very cheap prices or say some are sad that they only have 200 or 300 coins.Many of them were miners in the early days but what i wonder is whether they still holds all those coins or not?

Here is one more proof to the same:

https://i.ibb.co/ngdzfLd/Screenshot-20211107-165630-01.jpg (https://ibb.co/smxyQVx)

Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=316

I think  if they have that much Btc right now for sure they are one of those millionaires person alive. but remember This is we missed the most  world pizza day  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.0) imagine that he spent 10,000 btc for 2 large pizza.
If he Hodl that btc untill now which is 10,000btc = 590,410,000.00 USD it is sound's good.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: TheNineClub on November 21, 2021, 08:00:22 PM
Came here to laugh at the 'I have only 600 BTC...' XD The 'Missed the boat' concept has been around with anything and everything. Apple, Tesla, Microsoft, Gamestop stock... Where there is investing, there will be people barking that they are late. However, I doubt this is the case for crypto, at least not yet. My thoughts are that we might be late when we look at the first couple of waves in crypto, but when we look at the grander scale, this is just the start.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Trojane on November 21, 2021, 09:41:12 PM
Why haven't we learned to understand that sometimes, privileges are misused not because we don't know if it was a good option or because we don't have anyone to convince us with it but because we never thought that would be the BEST option and decision to make at that point.
 Many peeps had good money back then that they would have probably bought enough coins and indulged fully into crypto but they felt it wasnt necessary and it wasn't coming to STAY' , these was their own perception of thinking, so about missing the boat, i would still keep saying that crypto has come to stay and if you wouldn't wanna remorse tomorrow just like you did today, then TRADE CRYPTO TODAY!!


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: aysg76 on November 22, 2021, 12:07:37 PM
I think  if they have that much Btc right now for sure they are one of those millionaires person alive. but remember This is we missed the most  world pizza day  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137.0) imagine that he spent 10,000 btc for 2 large pizza.
If he Hodl that btc untill now which is 10,000btc = 590,410,000.00 USD it is sound's good.
At least our pizza guy Laszo Hanyecz who was early bitcoin miner and spent 10,000 bitcoins worth $40 at that time for just two pizzas has no  regrets (https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2020/05/22/10-years-after-laszlo-hanyecz-bought-pizza-with-10k-bitcoin-he-has-no-regrets/) today also even it's worth millions contrary to those who don't have anything or have some btc are making such weird statements that we missed the boat.You cannot ride on two boats simultaneously and you need to make the right decision.Their are actually two boats in world ocean and one is for Bitcoin and the other fiat which has inflation holes that would sink anytime so you decide which way you want to go.

Why haven't we learned to understand that sometimes, privileges are misused not because we don't know if it was a good option or because we don't have anyone to convince us with it but because we never thought that would be the BEST option and decision to make at that point.
 Many peeps had good money back then that they would have probably bought enough coins and indulged fully into crypto but they felt it wasnt necessary and it wasn't coming to STAY' , these was their own perception of thinking, so about missing the boat, i would still keep saying that crypto has come to stay and if you wouldn't wanna remorse tomorrow just like you did today, then TRADE CRYPTO TODAY!!
People are not easily conceived unless they see their personal benefits in it and that's right also like why should we invest in something that's not going to give return but sometimes taking risk at an early age is necessary to make big profits in future and nobody will convince you for that until you make your mind to listen to that person.One need to be visionary and what do you think that who has put in efforts to make millionaires? They themselves make the decision and it should not be influenced by others so make your move accordingly.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: aysg76 on November 26, 2021, 07:29:16 AM
Came here to laugh at the 'I have only 600 BTC...' XD The 'Missed the boat' concept has been around with anything and everything. Apple, Tesla, Microsoft, Gamestop stock... Where there is investing, there will be people barking that they are late. However, I doubt this is the case for crypto, at least not yet. My thoughts are that we might be late when we look at the first couple of waves in crypto, but when we look at the grander scale, this is just the start.
The problem is that you can buy stocks as there is liquidity for them available but for Bitcoin you can't always put the excuse that you did not invest because it was expensive or you thought it will not rise and how long will people are going to give the same old traditional or excuses as if it is an outside matter but until the time they realize that investment is for their own sake and securing future they will have the excuses.Many who might have sold out thousand of coins or lost the hard drives and keys to worth million dollars of btc are are regretting but the most people are still going that way by not investing and keep on repeating that whether to invest or not?

See the price have dipped and ranging between $56-$59k range falling from $67-$69k range which is almost $10k downfall but what people are doing now? Investing or selling? The whales are making the move by investing large sums at dips and other are busy in giving excuses and panic selling.This is not way you can have secured and deflationary future ahead.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Saint-loup on June 13, 2022, 10:46:39 AM
I'm sorry but where have you seen that late 2017 newcomers have gained "more than 4x"(sic) times their initial investment?  
Firstly, BTC has never reached $80 000 to date, so no $20k buyer has been able to earn 4x times his initial investment...
But more seriously, most of them have certainly sold their bag several years ago yet, and are in loss of course. So saying the main risk is not to have any bitcoin in future to a newbie is not responsible. No asset on earth is able to grow endlessly, thinking like that is just being survivorship biased.
Actually what i was referring to 2017 crash when bitcoin prices fell below $10k also to the bottom levels and or even lower have gained enough at this time if they have hold till this time as at current we are at $64k so just make the returns.

Second when i said about $20k the rise is about 3.45x and i want to write about it but forgot to mention approximately with it because we have seen peak points at $69k in last rally so from $20k it's around that much returns so my point.
You have opened this thread to encourage "newbies" to buy Bitcoin at its ATH with surprising arguments. Do you still think it was a good idea now? As I said to you it's not responsible to incite any beginners to buy a highly volatile (and then highly risky) asset at its ATH. I hope they didn't listen to you, and they read what I wrote and thought about it before doing anything wrong.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: aysg76 on June 13, 2022, 12:00:57 PM
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Firmly believe it was good idea to encourage newbies for investing in bitcoin but also for long term not trading in short term.We all in the market are aware about high volatility of bitcoin like the crash of 2017 when prices fell from it's ATH around $19800 to $3k which is nearly 80% fall in value but what prices we stand at today even after losing significant part from ATH of $69k? We still are at $28k which is $8k above from the ATH of 2017 so don't you think it's profitable decision for bitcoin investment?

How many of holder who have safely and with patience holding bitcoin for years have lost and not gained profits? So what you are saying sound like bitcoin is not going to rise anymore and those obituaries we read them about bitcoin are correct but you will see with time improvement in prices.

The newbies should make their decision and encouraging them is what we all do but if they blame others for it then they have not understood the bitcoin system at deeper level.The prices tend to rise in long run due to many factors like reduced supply with upcoming halving and more and more adoption will push up the prices so the those newbies you are talking about will regret their decision for not investing in it.So the end decision lies with them what's wrong or right.

Need to share a few nice memes, just to cheer you me up.

https://i.imgur.com/nBt0DyV.jpg

For me still bitcoin is the best possible option in every manner and will encourage newbie to invest in it as i am not forcing them to invest in it.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Saint-loup on June 13, 2022, 02:27:18 PM
Bitcoin is not at $28k it is currently at 23k USD and nobody is able to say it won't drop below that level. $20k and underneath are likely to be reached in the coming days. And no I am not able to say if BTC will manage to make a new ATH in the coming years. Its supply is not "reduced" by halvings, it simply grows less quickly.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Mpamaegbu on June 13, 2022, 07:28:23 PM
You have opened this thread to encourage "newbies" to buy Bitcoin at its ATH with surprising arguments. Do you still think it was a good idea now? As I said to you it's not responsible to incite any beginners to buy a highly volatile (and then highly risky) asset at its ATH. I hope they didn't listen to you, and they read what I wrote and thought about it before doing anything wrong.
To be sincere, I don't think it's much risk for anyone buying at this price level. At least, vis-a-vis what price was a few months ago when it hit an ATH of $64k+. Bitcoin has lost around 60% from that ATH with its current price around $23k+. So, to think that effect I don't anyone suggesting to others to buy now is misleading them. This is a nice time to buy in. It may not be a perfect time but it's a good time. A perfect time doesn't exist, anyway, until in hindsight.


Title: Re: I missed the boat is not new concept..
Post by: Smartvirus on June 13, 2022, 08:49:21 PM
The mistake most prospective investors dare to make is the question of; 'what do you do after you've supposedly missed the boat?"
Do you just seat and wait on it to come right back to the harbour or perhaps you hope that it gets sunk for a new voyage to start?

Life and opportunity waits for no man. If your doing any of the above as a prospective investor or someone who is looking to add to his or her portfolio, then you might be doing it wrong. When you can still catch site of the voyage, you make efforts to catch up with them. But with the little you have and keep topping up as time goes on, using only your spare funds. That way, your sure to have a piece of the pie!

Fortunately for some, the market is experiencing some serious bearish moves and has provided what I would like to refer to as the perfect opportunity to buy but the sad story is, a lot of persons would still miss out and would come to the realisation of this only when the price have gone up. I feel sad for those persons!