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Design looks clean and smooth but what does the 4444 in your name stand for?

Welcome to bitcointalk forum, and please tell us if you are official from 4444sport?
I would also like to know if there are any withdrawal fees and what is minimum withdrawal amount?

My first impressions are fine and I see you are offering many sports including MMA but I have not tested how it works.
It would be good idea to create some promotional campaign in forum or competition for free bets, so that people can test how your website works.

your site is very simple and practical, i saw that on your site you wrote "Football" instead of "soccer", won't that confuse people? as I speak Portuguese, we always say: soccerl "but I see that for those who speak English they say "soccer", maybe you should put soccer on so that people don't get confused

Yes I am the representative of the 4444sport. We appreciate your kind feedback! In regards with the game events we are only dependent to our provider and the sports we offer is based on their software, the Table Tennis is available but it is not live at the moment.

We choose 4444 since we are trying to be unique, we noticed that many names that contains numbers were already taken and we think that 4444 is easy to remember.

We would appreciate to hear any ideas or suggestions on the possibilities to promote our gambling site here.

Welcome to bitcointalk forum, and please tell us if you are official from 4444sport?
I would also like to know if there are any withdrawal fees and what is minimum withdrawal amount?

There is no withdrawal fee and there is no minimum withdrawal amount, the 4444sport will cover the transaction fee of all its players.

Checked your site out and liked the design and UI overall. Performance is fine too. I like the 'No KYC' policy which implies that you did your research. Take your time adding more cryptocurrencies since there is no withdrawal fee associated with BTC as you mentioned op.

Epic. Very few crypto gambling sites charge zero withdrawal fees which is why I applaud this decision op. However, I have no idea why there is no minimum withdrawal amount.

Some gamblers could withdraw a couple of cents regularly causing you losses which is why I advise setting a minimum withdrawal amount(Eg: $5 etc).

Epic. Very few crypto gambling sites charge zero withdrawal fees which is why I applaud this decision op. However, I have no idea why there is no minimum withdrawal amount.

Some gamblers could withdraw a couple of cents regularly causing you losses which is why I advise setting a minimum withdrawal amount(Eg: $5 etc).

And also, this is one of the sportsbooks that I've seen here allowing the use of VPN, which is good for those users who want to use VPN.
And are you going to add more cryptocurrencies in the future aside from bitcoin?

Forgive my level of understanding cause I need to be sure. Where do you get the idea that this bookmarker allow the use of VPN cause most bookmarker I know don't do that and I check the representative message on this thread he didn't say anything about the free use of VPN.

8.4 It is allowed for users to us a VPN connection to enter the website.

This is clearly stated in their Terms and Conditions:


Source: https://4444sport.com/pages/tac

This is really a big positive for the bookmaker and it will surely attract a lot of potential players from countries where gambling is not welcome.

I open 4444sport.com very lightly on my pc and maybe because this site doesn't use 'bet' or the like in front of the domain, it's not banned in my country. In order to get large visitors, you have to do strong marketing. good luck with your site.

The best name for any invention, product, or services is the name the inventor/ producer gave to it. The game is called "Football" by the English who are the originators.  That's the correct name. Whatever the rest of us decided to call it is our own business.

I maybe wrong, but don't they use the same odds "provider"(they simply steal 1xbet odds) as adkinsbet  ;D also I can’t find any info about their "license"

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There is no withdrawal fee and there is no minimum withdrawal amount, the 4444sport will cover the transaction fee of all its players.

You didn't take into account how long withdrawal could take.  ;)

Obviously not charging a fee for withdrawals is a very nice idea, but I think that to avoid accumulating costs, withdrawals will be done in sessions.

Is it possible to know how long it may take to wait for withdrawal funds?

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I maybe wrong, but don't they use the same odds "provider"(they simply steal 1xbet odds) as adkinsbet  ;D also I can’t find any info about their "license"

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first impression looks great
easy to use
not much noise
no kyc
seems like a dream

but i will not celebrate to fast, cause most important thing is are withdrawals safe

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Thank you for your feedback we are taking consideration of putting a minimum withdrawal, but we may apply it in the future and set a small minimum withdrawal amount.

About the promotion I think we will consider the paid honest review feedback so we should be able to receive honest feedback on our website and which part of our service that we need to improve and maybe taking consideration of running a signature campaign in the future.

In regards with our provider. Every software provider has a wide range of customers and we can't do anything if other sports betting website can use them as well.

About the gambling license, you can find it at the bottom of our gambling site and also the bottom of our ANN thread. Our gambling license is Costa Rica, we choose Costa Rica license because by law KYC is not required and with this license, more players from different countries will be allowed to play at our gambling site since it is crypto related.

my deposits are not credited after 5 confirmations

Have you contacted their customer support? As per item 7.2 of their terms and conditions, bitcoin deposits should be credited automatically after 1 confirmation and you already have 5. By now, it will have more than that. So they say, if it did not arrive, contact their customer support.

The OP here is still active so if it has not credited in your account, maybe try to reach out also to him.

That's already an issue which might really spark out negative impressions but since they had just started then lets make out some considerations and there might be still some few adjustments needed for this one.

For direct contact of support neither live chat or email
https://4444sport.com/pages/contactus

support@4444sport.com

Hi sorry for the inconvenience, we already contacted the user about the situation. However, the Bitcoin address he used to deposit doesn't correspond to the wallet address that was generated for his account.

We are planning to start now on our promotion and looking for a reputable manager to run this promotion.

Deposit and withdrawals should be automated. It's frsustrating to have to wait for manual deposit and confirmation.
Will you include active "Members" who are not yet "Full Members" in your sig campaign?

Hi sorry for the inconvenience, we already contacted the user about the situation. However, the Bitcoin address he used to deposit doesn't correspond to the wallet address that was generated for his account.

Additional information. For security and anonymity of our players we have decided to give them different Bitcoin address each time the player will make a deposit but you can still use your previous address to deposit however it will not be automatically added to your balance and you need to contact us through live chat (11:00 - 21:00 CET) or via email - support@4444sport.com (24/7)

We are planning to start now on our promotion and looking for a reputable manager to run this promotion.

Oh boy, they start to delete comments...

So what's up with this site?
When I click "Register" it does nothing. Not in one browser.

Additional information. For security and anonymity of our players we have decided to give them different Bitcoin address each time the player will make a deposit but you can still use your previous address to deposit however it will not be automatically added to your balance and you need to contact us through live chat (11:00 - 21:00 CET) or via email - support@4444sport.com (24/7)

@Levski7

4 users vouching for them got negative trust score...

Oh boy, they start to delete comments...

Can you point out those accounts that got negative rating for vouching for 4444sport am not trying to counter your claims but judging from your own trust rating you will need to provide more details to support your claims.

Thank you for your feedback we are taking consideration of putting a minimum withdrawal, but we may apply it in the future and set a small minimum withdrawal amount.

About the promotion I think we will consider the paid honest review feedback so we should be able to receive honest feedback on our website and which part of our service that we need to improve and maybe taking consideration of running a signature campaign in the future.

In regards with our provider. Every software provider has a wide range of customers and we can't do anything if other sports betting website can use them as well.

About the gambling license, you can find it at the bottom of our gambling site and also the bottom of our ANN thread. Our gambling license is Costa Rica, we choose Costa Rica license because by law KYC is not required and with this license, more players from different countries will be allowed to play at our gambling site since it is crypto related.

In regards with the promotion. We are not yet running a signature campaign, we are still planning to run promotion(s) before running a signature campaign.
We will launch a review campaign soon. The information about this campaign will be published soon regarding the levels of the bitcointalk members.

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So what's up with this site?
When I click "Register" it does nothing. Not in one browser.

Additional information. For security and anonymity of our players we have decided to give them different Bitcoin address each time the player will make a deposit

Oh boy, they start to delete comments...

As far as I know, there is no licensing authority in Costa Rica. So, saying that you are a licensed company is a bit misleading.

But this contradicts your withdrawal rule which states that the user can only withdraw to the address he used to deposit. If you really care for the anonymity of your customers then you should let them withdraw to whatever address they want. Addresses reuse is not recommended for crypto users as it reduces their privacy.

So what's up with this site?
When I click "Register" it does nothing. Not in one browser.

My fault, I did not put a number into the password. (But the website did not mention is, simply didn't do anything after clicking the register button. 4444sports, this should be changed:) )

I tried the site, it's fast, has a huge live market, clear... if they pay out, and don't act like 1xbit and other 1xbet clones, this is the best gambling site ever.

4444sport: you should implement bitcoin as currency. A real crypto gambling site has no eur or usd as currency, I think.

In the registration form has mentioned the password format below lowercase, uppercase, and at least 1 number with a minimum of 4 characters. It's a little weird because usually the password is 6 or 8 characters long. And also this site has accepted Bitcoin.
I don't know if you have properly checked the site you are visiting. It's so clear ???

Did I say anything about the deposit or withdrawal methods? I said the currency should be btc or mbtc, first please understand my comment.

I said the currency should be btc or mbtc, first please understand my comment.

Why it should be btc or mbtc? Just because we are in the crypto gambling industry so a site that accept crypto should not use fiat as the main currency to bet?
It is very common now, many sites use $ as the main currency although players are able to deposit with some different crypto.
Some sites do auto conversion (crypto to fiat) and some others keep the crypto but the they have an option to show balance in fiat.

Why it should be btc or mbtc? Just because we are in the crypto gambling industry so a site that accept crypto should not use fiat as the main currency to bet?
It is very common now, many sites use $ as the main currency although players are able to deposit with some different crypto.
Some sites do auto conversion (crypto to fiat) and some others keep the crypto but the they have an option to show balance in fiat.
All in all, every site are free to set their own rules/option about the denomination of the balance.

Players are encouraged to withdraw their balances to the wallet where deposit came from and if it's not possible, they are allowed to make withdrawals to other wallets.

We implement this rule to make sure that the players will withdraw their balance to their own wallet and will not accidentally sent to others

I've read about your balance reload. Just want to ask about it, how much is is needed to get that maximum $500 reload bonus? Can you also tell us more about it?

why the betting limits are so small (100-500 usd)

stay away from this site!!!! the bigest scam ever!!

Hello,

We want to inform you that is not allowed to user Tipster service to get a massive unfair advantage on our betting platform. You can find the information in our TAC, where we have written we have the right to confiscate the winnings from such betting pattern.
Therefore, we have deducted the winnings from your account.
You can make a withdrawal from your account from the total deposited sum  (€ 309.93) (or use our platform in a fair way).

Best regards,
Customer Support Team
 

when i won 1000e and want to witdraw money i got this message...

 dont play there

It works like deposit bonus if I understand it correctly but there is no detailed information about the percentage of the reload as well as about the rollover requirement. The terms about the bonus needs to be explained clearly so it wont make any confusion. It seems that players will get the detailed information once they make a deposit then they can find it under the My Rewards tab where players can decide whether to take the bonus or not.

Not all the sports and competitions have these limits. Every sport and competition has its own limit. For popular competitions, we offer much higher betting limits.
These limits are per each bet. Which means you are allowed to place more bets on the same event. If you have a special request for placing a bet with higher value, please contact our support team so they can check if this is possible.





If you try to get on unfair advantage, our software will detect this. In such cases, winnings are confiscated from the balance.
You are eligible to withdraw the money that you have deposited.
This user already openly admits to us that he was using tipster services around the world (trying to get an unfair advantage in this case).

no i bet my bets also but u void all because u are the biggest scam ever on internet....feople better stay awey from this site if u dont want to lose your money
this is a very good advertisement for the new site hahaha...u can close this site today better for u


For the moment, we do not have a bonus for new players. Bonuses are offered to players, based on their activity. (reload bonuses included)
If there is a bonus available for a deposit, you can find this in the My account --> My rewards section and claim the offer from there.
From time to time, we also offer Free Bets to our players.
We have the cashback offer for VIP players, which means they will receive 5% cashback, with a maximum amount up to €2500.
On the moment when somebody has wagered €10.000, he will become a VIP player on our site.

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stay away from this site!!!! the bigest scam ever!!

Hello,

We want to inform you that is not allowed to user Tipster service to get a massive unfair advantage on our betting platform. You can find the information in our TAC, where we have written we have the right to confiscate the winnings from such betting pattern.
Therefore, we have deducted the winnings from your account.
You can make a withdrawal from your account from the total deposited sum  (€ 309.93) (or use our platform in a fair way).

Best regards,
Customer Support Team
 

when i won 1000e and want to witdraw money i got this message...

 dont play there

Not all the sports and competitions have these limits. Every sport and competition has its own limit. For popular competitions, we offer much higher betting limits.
These limits are per each bet. Which means you are allowed to place more bets on the same event. If you have a special request for placing a bet with higher value, please contact our support team so they can check if this is possible.





If you try to get on unfair advantage, our software will detect this. In such cases, winnings are confiscated from the balance.
You are eligible to withdraw the money that you have deposited.
This user already openly admits to us that he was using tipster services around the world (trying to get an unfair advantage in this case).



For the moment, we do not have a bonus for new players. Bonuses are offered to players, based on their activity. (reload bonuses included)
If there is a bonus available for a deposit, you can find this in the My account --> My rewards section and claim the offer from there.
From time to time, we also offer Free Bets to our players.
We have the cashback offer for VIP players, which means they will receive 5% cashback, with a maximum amount up to €2500.
On the moment when somebody has wagered €10.000, he will become a VIP player on our site.

The problem nowadays is that Tipster services are being uses for the wrong purposes. Back in the days, there were some good value bets.
Since the offer of matches online has significant be increased, those sites probably are looking for sure bets, instead of betting tips.


they void also my own bets..this site is scam stay away

The problem nowadays is that Tipster services are being uses for the wrong purposes. Back in the days, there were some good value bets.
Since the offer of matches online has significant be increased, those sites probably are looking for sure bets, instead of betting tips.

only an felling

but since the begin, i had a strong felling that this guys are the betop.gg  team


and for now, the justify for limits and for who follow tipsters are exact the same. even the bonus are in same cases similar.


maybe im wrong,but just a felling

From the beginning I said that this is the swindler Adkinsbet. And his rules are like on the previous site. He is full of ordinary people who give him their money.

@radex
@LEVSKI7

It seems that you have had a problem with some sites in the past. We regret that, but we have nothing to do with the mentioned sites Malubit and/or Adkinsbet.
If you have reasons to believe we do, please share your evidence. If you do not have any substantial evidence, please stop making false and baseless accusations.

Thank you.

can somebody from the support team maybe tell me something about the limits?
i just registered but did not deposit yet i want to be sure the limits are decent.
from what i can see now is that many matches have limits like 500 usd ?

contact us through live chat (11:00 - 21:00 CET) or via email - support@4444sport.com (24/7)

can somebody from the support team maybe tell me something about the limits?
i just registered but did not deposit yet i want to be sure the limits are decent.
from what i can see now is that many matches have limits like 500 usd ?

@radex
@LEVSKI7

It seems that you have had a problem with some sites in the past. We regret that, but we have nothing to do with the mentioned sites Malubit and/or Adkinsbet.
If you have reasons to believe we do, please share your evidence. If you do not have any substantial evidence, please stop making false and baseless accusations.

Thank you.

dont play there they will not pay you this site is scam trust me

your site is very simple and practical, i saw that on your site you wrote "Football" instead of "soccer", won't that confuse people? as I speak Portuguese, we always say: soccerl "but I see that for those who speak English they say "soccer", maybe you should put soccer on so that people don't get confused

You already received your deposited money back into your wallet.
You have violated our terms, by trying to get an unfair advantage on our platform - Trying to cheat -
You already admit this by yourself to our support team that you are using Tipster services.
I think this is a normal procedure, we can not pay money to people that cheat or that won unfair.
If people play fair, they will get paid.

If 4444sport is called scam after 1 guy is kicked out because violating the t&c,  then why are you allowing members here promoting the biggest f*ckign scam of life, 1xbit? You are in the same room with 100% stealers cheaters and 1 site which is "maybe" a scam, but only one man is saying that...

Design looks clean and smooth but what does the 4444 in your name stands for? There's going to be much confusions with the name. A lot of typographic errors from people typing 444 instead of 4444 and typing Sports in place of Sport. Did you give thoughts to all that before choosing your name?

I'm asking because traffic leakages is a big deal in any online business, that's why people invest a lot of money to acquire fine names that has little or no ambiguities.

I think this 4444  stands for nothing but op or owner of the site tried to take a domain called sport but it is not available then tried 4sport again not available, then 44sport that is also unavailable then 444sport that is unavailable too finally tried 4444sport and got that. I searched before replying you on godaddy and noticed like this.

don't they have live support? why not contact them? check the bottom right side of the screen when you go to their website, you'll see an icon there that when clicked it will pop up a chat box to their live chat support. you can also email their support through support@4444sport.com

here's a reference to their live chat support.

COngrats for advertising here in Bitcointalk , surely you'll gain more and more players from doing this , but of course that is depend on how you will attract people here from your bonuses, events and specially your legitimacy .
there are so many gambling online in crypto that popping now as we knew this season the 4th quarter is where most people invest in gambling as same as the owners of the sites.

The interface is simple and the only needed is proper advertising , try to conduct more events and also campaigning .

I think this 4444  stands for nothing but op or owner of the site tried to take a domain called sport but it is not available then tried 4sport again not available, then 44sport that is also unavailable then 444sport that is unavailable too finally tried 4444sport and got that. I searched before replying you on godaddy and noticed like this.

ow I get it now. i was checking it on my mobile and on mobile version they seems to have not live chat support?
i checked myself the limits it turns out that on the big leagues they have higher limits and on lower leagues where there is probably less interest the limits are lower.

We tried to come up with a name that is easy for users to remember and that is unique.
We have chosen for 4444sport, since its 4 times the 4 in the name.

You are correct about this. We are planning to start campaigns soon. This will also include a signature campaign and review campaign as well.
We also want to hold a weekly promotion on the forum, where people can win free money in their account on our site.
Every idea/suggestion is welcome.


We tried to come up with a name that is easy for users to remember and that is unique.
We have chosen for 4444sport, since its 4 times the 4 in the name.


If you wish to place a bet where your preferred stake is not available, you are allowed to repeat your bets.

Dont make it that deeper problem if someone is accusing or thinking false about your site instead make them learn about your legitimacy by serving your gambler the best you can be.

It is normal in this forum that accusation and critics are there specially those who had been working in other site that might be triggered by your presence .

If they are wrong then prove it .

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welcome to the forum anyway.

I agree with your statement, however it would be nice if OP could show many more things that could make the forum members fall in love, when reading the thread its reason for being tends to be confused, it seems too much to be a "reputation" thread and the truth would like to see more details of the site, as I do, there must be many more users waiting to get an appreciation of your site.
Thank you.

We do appreciate the suggestions from users. At the moment we are preparing a promotion, which will be posted in the next days.

What is the minimum stake on your site?

Sounds good, but make sure that your promotion is attractive from player's perspective so you will get good interest from potential participants.
Anyway, do you have a plan to add casino games in the future or you are focusing to be sports betting site only?

Are you committed to not performing any KYC regardless of regulatory pressures?

Seems like that you have a license from Costa Rica. What happens if they ask you to perform KYC?

Would you still allow anonymous accounts to cash out? If not, I think it may be misleading to advertise no KYC as one of your features.

We choose Costa Rica license since it allows users from much more countries to play on our website, as well as to eliminate the needs of the KYC for all of our players.
The only jurisdictions that are not allowed to play on our site are Costa Rica and USA.

The point that got my attention was the fact that the minimum bet is a bit high $5 minimum bet is still on a high side, I will suggests since your site is a new one you should lower you minimum bet to allow small players bet on your site.

4444sport does not charge additional fees for withdrawals. If the minimal bets were much lower, I can imagine how big the costs would be if low betting users wanted to cash out a few bucks every now and then.

Still 5$ as a minimum bet are high specially in low budget gamblers in which only wanted to try their luck increasing money or wanted to have a small fun in time.

most gambling site allows player to at least put a bet with 2$ or even lower at some point .

But yeah i must admit that without additional fee for withdrawal is also a good part of their site.

Did anyone get an unsolicited message from 4444sport in their inbox to register and try the site?

I find that really strange.

Did anyone get an unsolicited message from 4444sport in their inbox to register and try the site?

I find that really strange.

There were some players who had doubts about our site. That is why we have chosen to send some personal invitations to a few players.
If you do not accept, sorry for bothering.

There were some players who had doubts about our site. That is why we have chosen to send some personal invitations to a few players.
If you do not accept, sorry for bothering.

We will take your suggestion into consideration.
We have a new promo that will be posted tomorrow.
It will be hold weekly. The number of participants will be limited.

Great info! It's nice that you are very dynamic. It's also a good idea to have the promotion over the weekend. This is the best time for gamblers to test new various things, because, as you know, then everyone have the most free time for hobbies ;)

Can people with a lower rank also join these promotion?

Ok but it seems that many people then can not join the promotion. can you change it so new players can also join

Well, that's a great idea.

There were some players who had doubts about our site. That is why we have chosen to send some personal invitations to a few players.
If you do not accept, sorry for bothering.

Ok but it seems that many people then can not join the promotion. can you change it so new players can also join

Well, that's a great idea.

I suggest refraining from sending messages like that. you could get banned if someone reported you sending unsolicited messages to the members.

There were some players who had doubts about our site. That is why we have chosen to send some personal invitations to a few players.
If you do not accept, sorry for bothering.

Later today the promotion will be posted in the appropriate topic.
Once this is done, I will notify the users here as well about it.

Can people with a lower rank also join these promotion?

Thank you for your advice guys.
We will not promote the promotion in this topic, we will only make a small announcement here when the promotion is posted in the promotions thread.
We will also launch a review campaign in the next week, where all suggestions are welcome (negative/positive/neutral are all welcome).

Thank you for your advice guys.
We will not promote the promotion in this topic, we will only make a small announcement here when the promotion is posted in the promotions thread.
We will also launch a review campaign in the next week, where all suggestions are welcome (negative/positive/neutral are all welcome).

Do you mean a review campaign just like what 1XBIT is holding right now, it's a good idea and highly recommended be sure to only accept higher rank members with a good reputation in the gambling community to avoid people from abusing this campaign of course it should not be moderated topic for transparency.

While mardaed above is suggesting to accept low rank members also, you are suggesting to accept high ranking members only.
I believe, it is good to have both but not newbies with first post just to join the campaign.
There are some players with low rank levels and you can review their post history to verify that they are indeed gamblers.
Varying opinions will give you good insights for the improvement of the site.

Thank you for your advice guys.
We will not promote the promotion in this topic, we will only make a small announcement here when the promotion is posted in the promotions thread.
We will also launch a review campaign in the next week, where all suggestions are welcome (negative/positive/neutral are all welcome).

Hi everyone, we would like to introduce to you our weekly prediction challenge where you can win $1,000 weekly.
Please visit our weekly promotion thread for more information - 4444sport.com Weekly Prediction Challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5372608.0)

Hi everyone, we would like to introduce to you our weekly prediction challenge where you can win $1,000 weekly.
Please visit our weekly promotion thread for more information - 4444sport.com Weekly Prediction Challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5372608.0)

Are we suppose to manually write all result on that topic because I don't see any template and it will be a mess, or is predictions done on your website?
Maybe you should refine your rules because they are unclear now, and look how other betting websites are doing their prediction competitions in games and round board.

I just replied in the promotions topic.
You can use the format that was used by the first user.
Which rules do you refer to that should be refined ?

Which rules do you refer to that should be refined ?

It was not clear that winner must correctly predict all 16 matches that is very hard or almost impossible.
Better idea is to give smaller consolidation prize for one player who gets most correct results if nobody gets all 16 matches.

Please make promotions also available for new users on the forum

Also, they said no editing of the post, can they track all the posts? They should do this in the site itself so they know the history changes of the player.

I disagree that will lead many people abusing the contest, someone can create a bunch accounts and submit different predictions. Minimum Jr. Member rank is enough, not to mention there's a chance will be abused but far less.

Just hover your pointer on the date of user's post, if they edited the post you'll see a sign of Last edited:.... so using this forum is fine.

It was not clear that winner must correctly predict all 16 matches that is very hard or almost impossible.
Better idea is to give smaller consolidation prize for one player who gets most correct results if nobody gets all 16 matches.

The prize which is only given if someone is able to answer correctly all the matches makes this promo less attention from members on this forum because it is almost impossible even only guessing 1X2.
Maybe the Op can consider reducing the number of matches that have to be guessed and there is still a prize for the one who answers the most correctly even though it's only a small amount of prizes

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We have decided that from next week on, there will be a consolidation price for the player that has predicted the most outcomes.

I want to know more about the limits, i contacted the live chat they say every competition has their own limits but i want to need it more specific

I want to know more about the limits, i contacted the live chat they say every competition has their own limits but i want to need it more specific

Did a withdraw request 10 hours ago.
They say it takes up to 72 hours for a withdraw in Livechat.

They, probably, process withdrawals manually so they can have the time to verify the legitimacy of bets/wins and to be sure that there was no abuse of any kind. It's understandable since they don't enforce kyc.
But due to the high volatility of cryptocurrencies, delays up to 72 hours can be an issue and may cause inconvenience for their users. They should allow instant withdrawals for small mounts, at least.

Did a withdraw request 10 hours ago.
They say it takes up to 72 hours for a withdraw in Livechat.

i read the kyc is not required there, can some players confirm that they cashed out?
for me its important to stay anonymous so no kyc would be ideal

We do not require any kind of KYC.
All players can gamble anonymous on our site without verification.

Are dutch players allowed to play here? and are you sure there is no kyc ?

Are dutch players allowed to play here? and are you sure there is no kyc ?

We do not require any KYC. Players can stay completely anonymous on our betting site.

We will also launch another promotion these days, together with the existing one.

Ok, but I hope if I won some money that it is still anonymous

Ok, but I hope if I won some money that it is still anonymous

Almost 36 hours since cashout request, and nothing yet. They do say wait up to 72 hours so I will give them that time.

I will post again if the money is received or when the 72 hours is up.

Almost 36 hours since cashout request, and nothing yet. They do say wait up to 72 hours so I will give them that time.

I will post again if the money is received or when the 72 hours is up.

I expect an answer from the bookmaker during the day and I will share it with you on the forum, I have pictures of all transactions and conversations on the company that I will post here

@younger41
We already have send you an email about the case. Our team has detected that you were betting on events on purpose where you had a massive and unfair advantage, most probably provided by tipster services.
The odds you have chosen implied a winning probability of 50%, but the real probability to win was much bigger and you know that very well.
We want to remind you that this is not allowed and is a violation of our terms. Therefore, all your bets have been voided.
We have decided to give you your deposited money back.
You can login to your account, and request the remaining funds from your balance.

Note: Unfortunately there are some players who want to exploit the situation with incorrect displayed odds in our software.
A good example is what happened with the match Belenenses - Benfica, Where the home team was infected with covid19, and started the match with only 9 players.
At the moment the odds for this match were available, the software provider and corresponding odds were not aware of the covid situation and offered the normal odds.
There were users, who were trying to exploit this situation and we consider this as a way of exploit our software on the platform on purpose and this is a violation of our terms.

I want to refer you to the terms:

10.10 Company reserves the right to close down existing accounts without explanation. In this event, or in the event of an account closure by a customer the gull balance will be paid out unless any fraudulent (e.g. Arbitrage, etc.) behavior is suspected. In case of fraudulent behavior, winnings will be voided and deposits will be confiscated or refunded, at Company's sole discretion, after we deduct the corresponding administrative and transaction fees and any fees that Company is obliged to pay to the competent authorities due to a customer’s complaint. Company also reserves the right to report to the appropriate authorities, if any customer is involved in any form of suspected fraudulent behavior.

10.11 As "Arbitrage" Company means the method certain players can use in order to abuse Sportsbook offers to their advantage. In such cases, we reserve the right to void bets, deduct winnings and remaining funds or return user's initial deposit at Company's discretion. Indicators, including but not limited, that gives Company strong reasons to believe that a bettor is abusing our offers using the arbitrage system.

10.12 We reserve the right to void and withhold any or all winnings made by any Player, where we have reasonable grounds to believe that the said Player is acting or has acted in liaison with an attempt to defraud or damage the Company and/or the Services and/or the Platform in any way.


@brassnuts
You have placed nearly 300 bets, so it will take some time to verify all your bets.

The expected reaction from a desperate bookmaker, they don't allow you to win money.
Unlike the others I have not bet Befica, also i do not follow any tipsters. Shame on the bookmaker.
My lawyer will send you a warning before the lawsuit in the next few days. I have all the evidence that you are a fraud.

I'm not on either side, but I'm very curious about this situation.

Conflict between a new bookmaker on the market and a brand new account on Bitcointalk.

Keep us informed about your lawyer's progress in this case please.

The rules of the site have no legal value. If he was in Europe he would condemn them and there would be compensation, but in Costa Rica it is completely absurd to achieve something

Dont waste time with these scammers

10 make new sportsbook
20 steal customers deposit
30 close down sportsbook
40 goto 10

Fak them

@aleandromagno

Fak off, pay attention to your own image

@bitcointalk users

I was there to fight against malubit, adkinsbet and now i am here to fight against these shitheads

Still heard nothing from these guys.

The problem that is being mentioned here is that 4444 seem to be just voiding bets of people who win. Some people are going to win, because they are good at sports betting.

What the industry does is to limit winning bettors, they don't just void their bets.

The standard reaction of desperate bookmakers!
But even sadder than all that are these people defending them and they are on their side, I would like them all to experience the same problem as us. They defend some of their rules that no one has even broken, just to get 10$ freebet or some stupid bonus.
Tell me please is it forbidden to bet on the Champions League? Or I forbidden to win the bet?

https://ibb.co/R4p2tCy

This is not your entire betting history. You only placed these bets with a small amount, trying to cover your other bets were the odds did not represent the real value, and you know that very well.
You did not post your bets where you won unfair.
So if you want to post your bets, then post your other bets as well. Now you are just trying to mislead people here.

https://ibb.co/LpTcD0X
https://ibb.co/Gc0TYCb
https://ibb.co/6w2zWZg

when did I cheat here and what advantage did I get please explain to me?

The odds at that moment were 1.90, but should be much lower.

The odds from the game City Archangels - Roxas Vanguards did not represent the correct value.
The odds at that moment were 1.90, but should be much lower. It was also not a surprise that your bet won with ease, since you already knew you were going to win it on the moment you placed the bet.
If people are using tipster services to exploit odds at the site, they will take the risk of their account being closed. This can be found in our Terms.
However, we gave this user his deposited funds back.

I don't want to defend or accuse anyone, but I don't think I understand everything.
You claim that the user has used Tipster service help, which is not allowed on your website.
Could you please explain how did you check that this bet was placed with Tipster help?
I have my suspicions that any bet could be voided in this way. Can you check if the player was informed for example by a neighbor or it was Tipster service?

This forum simply must start banning scammers to advertise themselves and keep stealing ppl money

We do not require any kind of KYC.
All players can gamble anonymous on our site without verification.

I absolutely agree! No one is even trying to help, just waiting for them to get a freebet or some bonus. I have problems with batchoin and playbetr and also no one called to support and help me, but when $ 10 freebet is shared, everyone is there to praise them!!!

It would be best for everyone to open their own bookmaker and start scam peoples in public without any shame.

I know this because I have bet here and one of the things that I have found great is the fact of anonymity and that the bets are always executed at the same time and everything is 100% verifiable, I have not had any problem with it. I think that if they continue like this it will be a great platform, 'I can say that I also lost a bet with PSG, it was really a huge surprise at Man City, at least for me.

It looks obvious what is going on. you were placing bets on Champions League for only 50 EUR, and then place 300 EUR on a match where nobody ever heard of these team names?
And now you complain that Playbetr also had a problem with you ? Trying to cheat is asking for problems.
Playbetr is a sponsor of PSG, so who would be right here? If I may give you a friendly advice: Just play fair on bookies, and there won't be any problems.

@brassnuts
We already answered you in previous posts. You have placed nearly 300 bets, and it take some time to verify these bets and the validity of it.
Pleae check our Terms:

7.5 All withdrawals will be processed within 72 hours, unless further review is required. This decision will be based on the gaming activity and the placed bets.

Great to see you have such a matches lineup on your platform, I was wondering if you have any welcome bonuses for this season am considering registering an account on your site but i will want to know your T&C to know better about your conditions for withdrawal.

The odds from the game City Archangels - Roxas Vanguards did not represent the correct value.
The odds at that moment were 1.90, but should be much lower. It was also not a surprise that your bet won with ease, since you already knew you were going to win it on the moment you placed the bet.

I'll tell you the rules, if you win money, they won't pay you.

If this is the only instance where he took advantage of wrong odds then there is a possibility that it was a coincidence or he just got lucky. It's not enough to conclude that he was trying to cheat or using tipsters services.
A reasonable and fair resolution for both parties could have been to void that particular bet and pay his other legit wins instead of voiding all bets. Just my two cents.