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Title: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on December 13, 2021, 03:42:21 PM
11 years have passed without Satoshi. Exactly 11 years ago, Satoshi wrote a post on the forum and disappeared from the net forever.
During this time, we saw many people claiming to be Satoshi. But so far, we have not seen any evidence that all these impostors are indeed the anonymous creator of Bitcoin.
Just say whatever you would like to say to Satoshi.
Bitcoin has already been mined by 90 percent, and I really want to know that the creator of Bitcoin knows that his brainchild is growing and developing with great success.


https://i.ibb.co/Rjy18yk/Screenshot-1.png (https://ibb.co/WVtQCt4)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479



Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: kaggie on December 13, 2021, 03:52:43 PM
Just say whatever you would like to say to Satoshi.

Hey Satoshi. :)


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Zanab247 on December 13, 2021, 04:41:01 PM
Many try to claim as the founder of bitcoin but they failed at the end of the struggle. 11 years bitcoin still remain decentralized currency to the world which no government has the power to control the price or to claim. The purpose bitcoin was created by Satoshi has been fulfilled which many countries that adopted bitcoin has testified about the good it has done in their country.
The world will continue to celebrate the founder of bitcoin because bitcoin has done so much to the world economy and to the citizens. 11 years bitcoin has never fail for it responsibility it was created by Satoshi for the world to enjoy.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: OcTradism on December 13, 2021, 04:42:54 PM
satoshi left our forum and left Bitcoin community eleven years ago. Time passes very fast and after 11 years, I think if we look back at this event and decision of satoshi, it's very good one.

satoshi did it and contributed to make real decentralization for Bitcoin in many terms from development, community, network, coin distribution to legal aspect against governments.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: GbitG on December 13, 2021, 04:48:53 PM
Many try to claim as the founder of bitcoin but they failed at the end of the struggle. 11 years bitcoin still remain decentralized currency to the world which no government has the power to control the price or to claim. The purpose bitcoin was created by Satoshi has been fulfilled which many countries that adopted bitcoin has testified about the good it has done in their country.
The world will continue to celebrate the founder of bitcoin because bitcoin has done so much to the world economy and to the citizens. 11 years bitcoin has never fail for it responsibility it was created by Satoshi for the world to enjoy.
I am sorry if I am hurting you, but this is really political statement instead of giving any tribute to satoshi because in current world no one celebrating Satoshi day maybe we will have soon because now mass adoption is happening and many big tech related companies and countries are studying about this which is very good for all.
I personally really happy after joining this community as this Bitcoin give me some extra things in life which was never been in my dreams because I am living in country where we have too many restrictions, but this is really independence for them and millions like me.

A Fair Salute to Satoshi and his team for this great work.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: DaveF on December 13, 2021, 04:53:16 PM
11 years without Satoshi*
* = That we know of.
That is the joy of being anonymous. I could be Satoshi (I'm not) you could be Satoshi (I don't know)
But, you know what, it does not matter. BTC continues to grow and evolve and be accepted.
Would having Satoshi around make that much of a difference?

-Dave


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: fiulpro on December 13, 2021, 04:55:15 PM
Well I do think that seeing the government always blaming Mr. Satoshi and trying to find him, he actually did make the right move regarding disappearing. For the safety of his family as well, I do think the creator knows already how Bitcoin is doing since you cannot escape the news, it's always on the top heading.
I don't think that anyone who claims and doesn't have the keys do even stand a chance since the real creator does know the value of the keys ofcourse. It's really wonderful that so many people are able to use Bitcoins without something like *monthly or yearly fee*, miners are getting employed indirectly, it's wonderful how the campaigns are working. He created something that is employing so many people at once. That's working during pandemic as well.
Hats off to Mr. Satoshi.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: mk4 on December 13, 2021, 05:02:20 PM
Totally unlikely, but sometimes I just think of the potential chaos it would bring if suddenly Satoshi decides to login on Bitcointalk and post again(with signed proof of a Satoshi address). I would really love to hear Satoshi's opinion on Bitcoin's current state.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Upgrade00 on December 13, 2021, 05:04:52 PM
Satoshi is possibly viewing everything happening around the bitcoin space from a remote beach and wondering what the actual purpose of NFTs are or what the next trend in crypto would be.
I was discussing the topic of Satoshi a couple of days ago with a friend, particularly how "he" managed to remain anonymous all these years while resisting the urge to tell everyone who you are, I may not be the brains behind it, but i will say whoever it is, besides being brilliant in tech, they also have incredible discipline and character and a bold resolve to attempt to change the world.

Would having Satoshi around make that much of a difference?
I think so, the mere presence alone of the founder would give them so much influence that could greatly affect the market. Imagine some of those stashed coins attributed to their address were moved suddenly, the tabloids would have a field day spinning articles about how the founder may have lost faith in their own invention, sparking a massive sell off.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: DdmrDdmr on December 13, 2021, 05:11:32 PM
He did communicate for a bit longer though, just not on a public forum (*), but rather on direct communication. The alleged last publicly known and verified message from him was to Gavin Andresen on April 26, 2011, where he wrote the following content:
Quote
"I wish you wouldn’t keep talking about me as a mysterious shadowy figure, the press just turns that into a pirate currency angle. Maybe instead make it about the open source project and give more credit to your dev contributors; it helps motivate them."
There were allegedly further emails with Martti during early May 2011 related to the transfer of bitcoin.org site, but the article below, I figure, doesn’t count them as 100% verifiable, and credits the above quote as the last for some reason.

There is an last message on P2P foundation, again not verified/verifiable beyond a shadow of doubt, where he allegedly wrote, on march 7th 2014:
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52186

Curtains down …

See: https://www.inbitcoinwetrust.net/10-years-after-satoshi-nakamotos-last-public-message-the-bitcoin-revolution-is-in-good-hands-4fc1ce62b8e9


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: bL4nkcode on December 13, 2021, 05:15:20 PM
Just say whatever you would like to say to Satoshi.
I still hold the idea that you avoid getting screwed after the wikileak accepting of bitcoin as payment and you left for good (great choice).

Anyway, please don't ever comeback and start suing your co-developers, advocates, and sue everyone on twitter who don't want to believe that you is you.

Have a good health and long live.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on December 13, 2021, 05:20:56 PM
I sometimes wonder if they indeed moved on to other things or just said it to leave the project harmlessly. They could also had a disease and didn't want to reveal it. What a mystery.

I mean, sit down and think of it. During a financial crisis and out of nowhere, a stranger creates “magic internet money” by solving a problem that was considered impossible 'til that year, sees it working and disappears. Unbelievable.

Totally unlikely, but sometimes I just think of the potential chaos it would bring if suddenly Satoshi decides to login on Bitcointalk and post again(with signed proof of a Satoshi address). I would really love to hear Satoshi's opinion on Bitcoin's current state.
Not that it matters, but Satoshi's account is sort like banned to prevent anyone from logging in and bringing the potential chaos you said. However without a signed message it wouldn't.

I'm sure they'd like the Lightning Network as a concept. They did speak of the scalability issue;
The current system where every user is a network node is not the intended configuration for large scale.  That would be like every Usenet user runs their own NNTP server.  The design supports letting users just be users.  The more burden it is to run a node, the fewer nodes there will be.  Those few nodes will be big server farms.  The rest will be client nodes that only do transactions and don't generate.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: kaggie on December 13, 2021, 05:25:47 PM
Totally unlikely, but sometimes I just think of the potential chaos it would bring if suddenly Satoshi decides to login on Bitcointalk and post again(with signed proof of a Satoshi address). I would really love to hear Satoshi's opinion on Bitcoin's current state.
I bet it would have gotten further with him, tech-wise.

But what you must remember is that bitcoin wasn't a guaranteed thing to succeed. It wasn't only about the tech. The tech gave a mathematical solution. Bitcoin adoption required not only the mathematical, but getting people to trust and use it. Satoshi may have been a genius, but the community required its own geniuses too.

I'm certain that he would identify several needs in our global state -- further decentralization of networks, better adoption of bitcoin (and maybe even other crypto). Regardless of what the market cap is, the question remains what it always was -- how do you get your neighbor to use it? How can this benefit humanity?

I think so, the mere presence alone of the founder would give them so much influence that could greatly affect the market. Imagine some of those stashed coins attributed to their address were moved suddenly, the tabloids would have a field day spinning articles about how the founder may have lost faith in their own invention, sparking a massive sell off.
It wouldn't be so dramatic, but yes, there would likely be a market fall. A super massive sell off wouldn't happen and couldn't happen. Most likely a person that wealthy could simply buy homes and yachts with their bitcoins directly with a decent mark up, if they haven't already done so. If you're that wealthy, selling off after 10+ years wouldn't be exactly your first concern. I do recognize the danger that a few individuals could have in controlling a global market, especially as adoption increases. Alt-coins help mitigate that tbh.

I still hold the idea that you avoid getting screwed after the wikileak accepting of bitcoin as payment and you left for good (great choice).
I bet it's well more than wikileaks accepting bitcoin. It was Gavin Andresen visiting the CIA (which ironically probably helped the community). But there were likely infights and scams already in those early days, as soon as decent money ($100s+)  began to move in single transactions, which no doubt was stressful.

I mean, sit down and think of it. During a financial crisis and out of nowhere, a stranger creates “magic internet money” by solving a problem that was considered impossible 'til that year, sees it working and disappears. Unbelievable.
TBF, even the NSA had been looking at the problem over a decade earlier. Even earlier papers, such as those by Okamoto nearly two decades before, tried to address the problem of digital currency.

Digital scarcity was inevitable. And still is.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Mpamaegbu on December 13, 2021, 05:25:52 PM
I'm just ogling at his merit score. That's enviable, to say the least. Such an unimaginable quantity of splash tells of the hold Satoshi has on this community, even in absentia too. His last visit here was in 2010 but he's a top beneficiary of a system that kick-started in 2018. In the same thought process, Satoshi has really done marvelously well for this century with Bitcoin which formally set the cryptocurrency journey on. His foresight in doing this is unparallel. Right now, I don't even want him revealing his identify. He's better off with the mystery than resolving it by revealing himself.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Pffrt on December 13, 2021, 05:39:07 PM

If my memory serves me correct, there was a news of satoshi email address to get hacked. If that's true, I think forum activity was the last one. It's also surprising that he could be active in somewhere else, in email but never bother to log in after December 13.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Slow death on December 13, 2021, 06:14:48 PM
Does anyone here have contact with our dear faketoshi? I'm talking about that Austrian scientist and businessman who has plagued the bitcoin community and is always in the fight for patents, he should come here on the forum and prove that he is the owner of this account. leaving jokes aside, time has passed a lot and today I think that even if satoshi appeared it would not have any impact on the price of bitcoin in the long run


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: DdmrDdmr on December 13, 2021, 06:22:07 PM
<…>
I figure you mean as per the information and discussion provided on this thread: satoshin@gmx.com is compromised (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775174.0). There’s also a lengthy article on the matter here: https://www.vice.com/en/article/jp5dk8/the-satoshi-nakamoto-email-hacker-says-hes-negotiating-with-the-bitcoin-founder (interesting screenshots enclosed ->real?). That seems to be in the 2014 range.

I wouldn’t though be surprised at all if he did first disappear from the forum as depicted in the OP, but kept some private email activity as per my prior post. It seems reasonable to disappear from a large public circle first, whilst needing to keep going for a short while in very tight circles.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Sirait on December 13, 2021, 06:37:58 PM
satoshi is truly anonymous, he doesn't want fame and whatever, he just wants to fix this messed up world by issuing bitcoins. me, you and all of us are satoshi when we believe in the future of bitcoin and don't care about the fud that is spread to date.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: tulusikhlas on December 13, 2021, 06:38:29 PM
His whereabouts are currently still a mystery because he disappeared mysteriously which makes some claimants hope for recognition that he is a satoshi.
but indeed until now it is still an unsolved mystery.
I looked at the list of DTs and there he was with the clear word Founder.
I can't imagine if he came back to this forum and made something in his thread


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: mynonce on December 13, 2021, 07:16:41 PM
...
But, you know what, it does not matter. BTC continues to grow and evolve and be accepted.
Would having Satoshi around make that much of a difference?

-Dave

It wouldn't make things better.
But it would create the opportunity to make things worse.

Therefore, Satoshi, keep going this way ...


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: hatshepsut93 on December 13, 2021, 08:29:07 PM
I really hope that Satoshi will never be found, if that is their desire. Way too many people in Bitcoin community, generally newbies, think that it would be fun to uncover the mystery, ignoring the fact that privacy is a large part of freedom, and desire for more freedom is what lead to the creation of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Botnake on December 13, 2021, 09:20:46 PM
I really hope that Satoshi will never be found, if that is their desire. Way too many people in Bitcoin community, generally newbies, think that it would be fun to uncover the mystery, ignoring the fact that privacy is a large part of freedom, and desire for more freedom is what lead to the creation of Bitcoin.
If Satoshi has remained unknown in the past years, i don't think people will be able to find him in the coming years. Besides, he loves freedom and that includes he wants to be totally free from all the critics of the people. Bitcoin has been very great since from the start up to its present year and its inevitable that it will continue to grow and continue changing the lives of the people. This happened without Satoshi around, so ho much more if he intends to never leave bitcoin? I think he will receive great recognition from all bitcoin enthusiasts and definitely negative reactions from all those bitcoin antagonists.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: famososMuertos on December 13, 2021, 10:13:01 PM
... in a formal registration but that without a doubt with each passing year I think that we get closer to the reverse idea; 11 years with satoshi.

The individual who left that record shown in the OP, never left, never left us, the current situation with Bitcoin transcends individualities.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: realcrypto on December 13, 2021, 10:14:43 PM
It is a privilege to know that I am on the same platform that Satoshi Himself once was spotted posting. Out of curiosity, I also search for Satoshi in this forum immediately I came across. Thank you very much for this post.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Accardo on December 13, 2021, 10:17:48 PM
In spite of his absence he knew that his bitcointalk forum disciples will break records. Alot have been achieved with the disappearance of Satoshi. The cryptocurrency market generally accolades Satoshi Nakamoto because he is inaccessible. If Satoshi was available to answer a bunch of questions in press conferences he will get alot of critics that may hinder the progress of bitcoin.

He made bitcoin but today we are all co-owners of bitcoin and millions of traders and investors are impressed with the technology that have made more millionaires than the entertainment industry within 10 years of existence.  


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: aoluain on December 13, 2021, 10:21:29 PM
I really hope that Satoshi will never be found, if that is their desire. Way too many people in Bitcoin community, generally newbies, think that it would be fun to uncover the mystery, ignoring the fact that privacy is a large part of freedom, and desire for more freedom is what lead to the creation of Bitcoin.

Satoshi will never be found, Satoshi is an expert in anonymity, if Satoshi hasnt
been "found" yet its not going to happen, its 100% up to Satoshi.

I'm wondering what Satoshi thinks about institutional investors and financiers getting into Bitcoin?

I wonder if Satoshi had forseen that Bitcoin would become  a hedge against inflation?

Did Satoshi know just how a deflationary asset would become popular with people
who initially would be in opposition to it?


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: yazher on December 14, 2021, 02:23:34 AM
He is one of the real anonymous experts where they can talk to us at the same time hide without even knowing a single piece of information about them except for their internet names. As time goes by when bitcoins were gaining popularity, hiding with the same time engaging with conversations to this community has no longer works because looks like more people are interested in him, and for his safety, it's best for him to just disappear without a trace and let people wonder who he/she really is. I hope he is working on more development behind the scene or more ideas to keep the coin decentralized forever.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Fundamentals Of on December 14, 2021, 03:03:11 AM
As I've read all over the internet on the anniversary of Satoshi leaving this forum, the man has "the genius to change the world and the humility to walk away."

I agree to that. Satoshi is clearly not somebody who thirsts for influence, popularity, power, etc just like what is clearly longed for by the personalities nowadays who claim they are the real Satoshi.

Simply by claiming, they are already proven to be the fake Satoshi Nakamoto.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: mk4 on December 14, 2021, 04:07:26 AM
I bet it would have gotten further with him, tech-wise.

But what you must remember is that bitcoin wasn't a guaranteed thing to succeed. It wasn't only about the tech. The tech gave a mathematical solution. Bitcoin adoption required not only the mathematical, but getting people to trust and use it. Satoshi may have been a genius, but the community required its own geniuses too.

I'm certain that he would identify several needs in our global state -- further decentralization of networks, better adoption of bitcoin (and maybe even other crypto). Regardless of what the market cap is, the question remains what it always was -- how do you get your neighbor to use it? How can this benefit humanity?
Maybe. But we clearly know that Satoshi valued decentralization a lot more than technological advancement; hence why he left early.

And yea, I'm pretty sure that he would've valued actual adoption than moonbois on social media trying to pump the price; but I'm also pretty sure this is something that he expected to happen.

has anyone considered the possibility that satoshi is dead
Not much.. you know, only like 70%+ of people here.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: traderethereum on December 14, 2021, 05:16:13 AM
Satoshi is a big mystery in crypto and the world because no one can find who he is and no matter how they are trying to search, they will not know and will remain a mystery.
Satoshi brings a chance to new things for people to try to have a better opportunity to manage their money. Although the government now does not agree with the idea, bitcoin will slowly be accepted and used by those people.
We should give a very big thanks to Satoshi and let him do other things that can help humans because who knows, Satoshi will come back to us with a new idea.
We can continue to use bitcoin for our lives and enjoy our journey in the bitcoin world.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: worle1bm on December 14, 2021, 05:49:39 AM
Does anyone here have contact with our dear faketoshi? I'm talking about that Austrian scientist and businessman who has plagued the bitcoin community and is always in the fight for patents, he should come here on the forum and prove that he is the owner of this account. leaving jokes aside, time has passed a lot and today I think that even if satoshi appeared it would not have any impact on the price of bitcoin in the long run
They would never come up in public discussion because if they can't sign a message from his address they can't prove anything further so they are busy in making false claims on which the bitcoin community does not have any faith and will not have at all.Over a decade has passed without him on the forum and see how much growth btc has made over this time and for the forum as well also.

He had a vision and he created something really innovative which is owned and controlled by everyone and he was the only medium to make it public and this is what astonished me when i first hear about it.Still there are mysteries which will remain undisclosed and it's better in there.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: StanleyBoyle on December 14, 2021, 06:13:48 AM
If I want to contact you, do I have to burn my letter before you can receive it. God bless you


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: KaliLinux on December 14, 2021, 06:27:02 AM
Does anyone here have contact with our dear faketoshi? I'm talking about that Austrian scientist and businessman who has plagued the bitcoin community and is always in the fight for patents, he should come here on the forum and prove that he is the owner of this account. leaving jokes aside, time has passed a lot and today I think that even if satoshi appeared it would not have any impact on the price of bitcoin in the long run
Just what I was thinking too. All this trying to claim Satoshi will be laid to rest if any of them is able to come to the forum and make another meaningful post about his work with that account, that's all they need and I think this should be asked of anyone that is still claiming to be satoshi but I don't think this is going to happen.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: raidarksword on December 14, 2021, 06:48:21 AM
It's a good news that already 90 percent of bitcoin was mined already and this is a great opportunity for the price to rise up soon. I still want to know who is satoshi nakamoto but it will only endanger his life for that because we all know he has lots of bitcoin in his hands. So, for security reasons its best for his identity to be anonymous until now.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: cabron on December 14, 2021, 07:05:35 AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVG4l7Rr4Sc

The podcast above by NLW tells a good story about Satoshi being a good leader who made sure BTC survives not just patching the hack but also did not want the government to kill it while BTC is in its infancy. And wikileaks had really survived well because of Bitcoin funding.

He mentioned that Satoshi probably went underground because of Gaven involving the CIA as he attend annual conference on emerging technologies. Anyway good for Satoshi to remain anonymous after years.



Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: perfect999 on December 14, 2021, 10:21:14 AM
11 years have passed without Satoshi. Exactly 11 years ago, Satoshi wrote a post on the forum and disappeared from the net forever.
During this time, we saw many people claiming to be Satoshi. But so far, we have not seen any evidence that all these impostors are indeed the anonymous creator of Bitcoin.
Just say whatever you would like to say to Satoshi.
Bitcoin has already been mined by 90 percent, and I really want to know that the creator of Bitcoin knows that his brainchild is growing and developing with great success.


https://i.ibb.co/Rjy18yk/Screenshot-1.png (https://ibb.co/WVtQCt4)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479
There has been so many people like you have said who are claiming to be the real Satoshi, but none of them has been able to provide enough evidence to prove that they are really the Satoshi Nakamoto and the one who is bending the cryptocurrency project.

Recently, I was seeing news pop-up on my browser about some people who have claimed that Craig Wright is the true Satoshi, but when I see these news I just ignore them and pass. Lastly I saw a news that Craig won a case that has to do with crypto, I don’t know exactly because I didn’t read it. And some people have asking questions whether he’s the one. As for me, I don’t believe anyone until they actually prove it by access the Satoshi’s wallet and also the forum account to prove their identity.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: pealr12 on December 14, 2021, 10:45:08 AM
After 11 years of being anonymous i say it is pointless to assume he will reveal himself, i think people should already stop asking and get use to the fact satoshi don't want to be found which is good for btc otherwise the government will be on his tail, right now they have no one in particular to point fingers at but the moment satoshi reveals his identity, it will be a different thing.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: so98nn on December 14, 2021, 10:52:13 AM
Wondering how he got that much Merit's being inactive on the forum.  :P

Well obviously he has his own charm, he left everything behind which is way helpful than everyday junk that is being posted all the time on the forum. We talking about decade old account and excellent brain behind the same. I think I would love to see him getting back to us in the near future as the bitcoin is cracking down with the world. So many bans, so many unclaimed legalities against Satoshi, I think they must come back in front of the world and show them the real path forward.

If he is really reading this one, then you are amazing man, you just shown whole new ray of light to the world in the field of financial system as well as technological aspect. There are so many things to discuss about him, just wish he would have been here to reply all of us.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: PawGo on December 14, 2021, 10:52:47 AM
I have already asked on local forum, but I will post it again here.
What about "32BTC puzzle" author?
There was a post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941
Is it confirmed who was that? All his statements seems to be correct, at least in subject of mentioned transactions - move of coins etc.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Jasad on December 14, 2021, 10:58:40 AM
satoshi is anonymous, he doesn't want to publish himself to the public, even now no one knows where satoshi is, it's been 11 years since satoshi introduced bitcoin to us, he never appeared in any forum, I'm sure satoshi always monitors our every move, That's why bitcoin is still alive today.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Ararbermas on December 14, 2021, 11:12:39 AM
Forever anonymous, he will never appear again around the in internet just to brag those idiots that ignored him..  :D and for sure those people whose claiming that they're the real satoshi are frauds wherein wants to obtain more attention but afterwards they can't provide proofs.. :D i wouldn't be surprised because indeed even when it comes jesus name there are some people wants to take it. Lol


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: nullama on December 14, 2021, 11:57:58 AM
We need more people like satoshi.

Thanks for your contribution for a better world.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Pffrt on December 14, 2021, 01:31:46 PM
<…>
I figure you mean as per the information and discussion provided on this thread: satoshin@gmx.com is compromised (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775174.0). There’s also a lengthy article on the matter here: https://www.vice.com/en/article/jp5dk8/the-satoshi-nakamoto-email-hacker-says-hes-negotiating-with-the-bitcoin-founder (interesting screenshots enclosed ->real?). That seems to be in the 2014 range.
Yeah, exactly this is the one I was talking about. I totally forgot that it was in 2014 and mixed up with previous years. Thank you for bringing it up. It has been a while and I have forgotten a lot of things. It seems you are right. Mail with Martti Malmi and the later post about Dorian Nakamoto seems to be the last activity. This is mystery of this decade or possibly will be the mystery of 21st century.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: nullama on December 14, 2021, 01:37:44 PM
Just wanted to share here the first transaction made by Satoshi:

https://mempool.space/tx/f4184fc596403b9d638783cf57adfe4c75c605f6356fbc91338530e9831e9e16

He sent 10 Bitcoin to Hal Finney, to test the system.

Things were simpler in those times. Noticeable, no mining fees.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Shamm on December 14, 2021, 01:39:58 PM
Satoshi Nakamoto founder of bitcointalk.org no one know him in real life even theymos the administrator of this forum I think. An Anonymous that makes a lot of things in the world of crypto.
Without Satoshi, we are not here right now.

Thank you, Satoshi.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Xampeuu on December 14, 2021, 01:49:46 PM
satoshi as the founder of bitcointalk who brought us here and made it easier to learn bitcoin about everything. but no one really knows for sure about the sathosi itself. lots of people have been asking questions, and lots of people making confessions, but I don't think there's a valid answer yet. even if satoshi appeared at this time, probably not many would believe it right away


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: ChiBitCTy on December 14, 2021, 01:55:25 PM
What?! , so you’re telling me that the prestigious Dr Craig Wright isn’t Satoshi?!  :D 

On a realistic note, what Satoshi created was nothing short of absolutely amazing. I mean look how much bitcoin is in the mainstream these days. I see bitcoin talk on CNBC more than almost anything else financially wise these days, that’s just crazy. I like to think that Satoshi is still around and anonymously checking out the forum from time to time.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Lucius on December 14, 2021, 02:03:58 PM
In one of his last private messages, Satoshi wrote to Sirius (Martti Malmi) as follows:

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I’ve moved on to other things and probably won’t be around in the future.”

It is enough for me to understand that the man decided that his job was finished, and that his further presence would only harm the further development of Bitcoin. In addition, from all the evidence that can be found - what would anyone else do if one of the main developers went to the headquarters of the world's most powerful intelligence agency, and together with some other developers calls on him to privatize all decisions too much?

For those interested a little more, I suggest reading the chronology of events that led Satoshi to decide to leave.

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Still, it’s difficult to say if Satoshi’s decision to walk away was his alone. After all, over the year, there had been a dramatic change in tone toward his leadership.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/what-happened-when-bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-disappeared


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Obito on December 14, 2021, 02:15:05 PM
We need more people like satoshi.

Thanks for your contribution for a better world.
Even if we want to, there's not a lot of people that can be like him, not everyone is destined to change the world, if it was then it's not a special thing anymore and it's the norm in our society. I wouldn't say though that Satoshi made the world a better place though, but Satoshi did change how we see our finances.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: songchunlai on December 14, 2021, 04:01:54 PM
The password of Satoshi account is very simple, just some 5, So many people like to use this account. Finally, one person changed the password, which Satoshi didn't know, maybe 40 letters.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: bitzizzix on December 14, 2021, 05:12:40 PM
I don't think anyone should seek or find Satoshi, and although everyone will be discussing it again in the next 11 years, the truth will never be revealed.
Satoshi had fulfilled his goal and disappeared before those who did not support innovation in finance dragged him to congress to explain his creation.

and all of us as people who benefit greatly every day from the work he does for us, I think it is inappropriate to take his departure as a challenge when it is clear he is just a normal guy who wants to help all human beings because of his genius. but he was not willing to risk his life for that purpose, for if it were to be exposed, he would be in danger from all directions.

have to respect that.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: acener on December 14, 2021, 05:18:13 PM
Just say whatever you would like to say to Satoshi.

Thanks for your creation so many life has changed so many opportunities had open up,
Some of us found a way to earn on our own and manage to get a job because of crypto.
Some of us found financial freedom because of it and it is all thanks to you.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: GbitG on December 14, 2021, 05:22:12 PM
We need more people like satoshi.

Thanks for your contribution for a better world.
Even if we want to, there's not a lot of people that can be like him, not everyone is destined to change the world, if it was then it's not a special thing anymore and it's the norm in our society. I wouldn't say though that Satoshi made the world a better place though, but Satoshi did change how we see our finances.
Satoshi change things for millions like me those were never have any choice to do many things in life which we are doing and having some very good achievements even still these are not luxury but still we are feeling financial freedom. Surely world has not big change with this but still all need to thankful because in future we are going to have some revolutionary things just because of this crypto and blockchain which both giving much better and easier life to us belong to satoshi.
Still many hurdles in Third World countries for these things, but this change is going to happen, no one can stop this from big change for common peoples.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: syedzakir on December 14, 2021, 05:26:57 PM
Satoshi nakamoto was the founder of bitcoin.
His purpose was to create a currency which will be decentralised and no one would be able to control that currency so now at this time in the modern world this dream has been fulfilled.
This currency has reached to a stage that even when it's value is higher than all the local currencies of the world.
Many people claim to be satoshi nakamoto but originally it is not known up til now that where is he?
But his dream has been fulfilled and he is alive in the memories of people.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: yenhuang on December 15, 2021, 03:08:27 AM
In 11 years without Satoshi Nakamoto, it is estimated that he would not have thought about the rise of Bitcoin, nor would he have thought that more and more people would participate in it, nor would he have thought that El Saldova would become the first Bitcoin city. What I want to say is, I hope you are always there, but I don’t know where you are.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: larry_vw_1955 on December 15, 2021, 03:35:13 AM
Totally unlikely, but sometimes I just think of the potential chaos it would bring if suddenly Satoshi decides to login on Bitcointalk and post again(with signed proof of a Satoshi address). I would really love to hear Satoshi's opinion on Bitcoin's current state.

yes and why he didn't spend any of his money. i doubt it would really cause bitcoin price to be affected if he did show up. but it would be exciting.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: binglanglady on December 15, 2021, 03:37:49 AM
Just say whatever you would like to say to Satoshi.

Hey Satoshi. :)

hi Kaggie,You should have a lot to say。What I want to say is that Satoshi Nakamoto has always been, like a god.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Olayinka2225 on December 15, 2021, 04:42:29 AM
11 years without satoshi, I say NO because since when he went anonymous and some many people were claiming to be him failed because those people claiming to be him are only looking for cheap awareness or fame of which they don't have the fundamental to be SATOSHI. And even though Satoshi went anonymous, am sure he's still us, just don't know how, where. He gave us BTC and BTC is still what we're doing till today. All thanks to the great brain of SATOSHI.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: JohnBitCo on December 15, 2021, 06:06:13 AM
satoshi is anonymous, he doesn't want to publish himself to the public, even now no one knows where satoshi is, it's been 11 years since satoshi introduced bitcoin to us, he never appeared in any forum, I'm sure satoshi always monitors our every move, That's why bitcoin is still alive today.

Bitcoin may contiune its adoption and one day may become the single currency of the world but still, we will always be curious to know that who was Satoshi, the creater of bitcoin.
Isn't it sad that we will never be able to know who actually was Satoshi Namakoto ?


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: wajik-tempe on December 15, 2021, 06:23:32 AM
I'm sure the one behind that account is already became something powerful in this cryptospace, maybe we know the real name in person as one of the top crypto project founder or some big whales in crypto but we don't know he is the sathosi.
This forum is history maker, i also saw ANN ethereum post from vitalik and it's become the witness of his journey creating the biggest altcoins.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: slaman29 on December 15, 2021, 03:05:53 PM
Bitcoin may contiune its adoption and one day may become the single currency of the world but still, we will always be curious to know that who was Satoshi, the creater of bitcoin.
Isn't it sad that we will never be able to know who actually was Satoshi Namakoto ?

Anyone who actually thinks it will become the world single currency in the near future or even in the future where our unborn children grow old, well, good luck to you but you would need all the big superpowers of the world to suddenly one day say they don't want their fiat money anymore.

Why is it sad we will never know Satoshi?

I think it's even sadder that 90% of Bitcoin owners don't even use Bitcoin. I think Satoshi is sadder we are all focusing on the wrong things.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: crussaders1411 on December 15, 2021, 03:21:30 PM
You are a great person Satoshi Nakamoto in this modern age, you changed everything. bitcoin issued the world's first 50 bitcoins resulting from a system that later became known as the "Genesis Block". Therefore Bitcoin is not controlled by the government because bitcoin adheres to a decentralized system (Blockchain).
I hope that Satoshi Nakamoto will be mysterious forever


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Alert31 on December 15, 2021, 03:29:24 PM
satoshi is truly anonymous, he doesn't want fame and whatever, he just wants to fix this messed up world by issuing bitcoins. me, you and all of us are satoshi when we believe in the future of bitcoin and don't care about the fud that is spread to date.

I beleived if Satoshi still alive he is always updated about the status of his invention even he is anonymous. And thanks for his investion that really helps my family a lot. After 11years his invention  become more and more popular from cent $ to a thousand of $, amazing!


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: buwaytress on December 15, 2021, 03:34:28 PM
I can't think of a single project that's done better than it could because its creator stuck around and continued to lead the project.

And I can't think of a single project that had a leader who doesn't envy what Bitcoin has become or was becoming. Lee stepped down from Litecoin, Buterin took as many steps away as he could from Ethereum, hell, even Dogecoin got abandoned.

They all wished they'd done it the way Satoshi did, proving immediately how decentralised Bitcoin was, and how well the idea worked.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: taufik123 on December 15, 2021, 03:55:59 PM
Anyone who actually thinks it will become the world single currency in the near future or even in the future where our unborn children grow old, well, good luck to you but you would need all the big superpowers of the world to suddenly one day say they don't want their fiat money anymore.

Why is it sad we will never know Satoshi?

I think it's even sadder that 90% of Bitcoin owners don't even use Bitcoin. I think Satoshi is sadder we are all focusing on the wrong things.
90% of bitcoin users only hold it for speculation and 10% of holders actually take advantage of the technology owned by bitcoin.
But satoshi succeeded in astonishing the world with his inventions and changing the way we transact. Bitcoin is the origin of everything and Bitcoin is the role model for all altcoins.
Satoshi remains anonymous and will always remain anonymous. He is remembered not for his name, but for his extraordinary invention that changed the world.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: SFR10 on December 15, 2021, 04:23:21 PM
I would like to thank him/her or them for giving people like me, an equal opportunity to be a part of this world when it comes to cross-border transactions [e.g. sanctions and etc...] and I'm sorry you have to witness how a significant portion of the community [newcomers included], tend to use this gem for wrong reasons!

Would having Satoshi around make that much of a difference?
It wouldn't make things better.
But it would create the opportunity to make things worse.
Are you referring to a possible crash or something else? If it's just the former, then would you still think the same if Satoshi wasn't going to move any of his/her coins?


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: kryptqnick on December 15, 2021, 05:04:27 PM
Just say whatever you would like to say to Satoshi.
I think the biggest thing we can say is thank you. Thank you for creating a new form of money, the one that isn't centralized and that allows participation of any people. Without you, there would not have been this community of tons of people who've been discussing Bitcoin and many other cryptos (which probably also would not have existed) every day for many years. Thanks for showing us that something that is not backed by a government or a huge company can actually not only survive but thrive. In return, I hope your privacy and wish to remain unknown will be respected because of course you, of all people, deserve to live your life in peace. I hope you're alive and perhaps even reading these messages somehow.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: dataispower on December 15, 2021, 09:11:45 PM
Does anyone here have contact with our dear faketoshi? I'm talking about that Austrian scientist and businessman who has plagued the bitcoin community and is always in the fight for patents, he should come here on the forum and prove that he is the owner of this account. leaving jokes aside, time has passed a lot and today I think that even if satoshi appeared it would not have any impact on the price of bitcoin in the long run
What is the benefit of people claiming to be Satoshi, if bearing the name Satoshi can fetch money they should tell me because i wonder how somebody will wake up and what come to his mind is to claim another person name because of his good invention, since we need somebody to know us for our quality work we should develop our own currency and rename it bitcoin so that we know that we have anti bitcoin part 2, and the name will come out good to the society, all the fakesatoshi is going nowhere


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Finestream on December 15, 2021, 09:14:18 PM
Just say whatever you would like to say to Satoshi.
I think the biggest thing we can say is thank you. Thank you for creating a new form of money, the one that isn't centralized and that allows participation of any people. Without you, there would not have been this community of tons of people who've been discussing Bitcoin and many other cryptos (which probably also would not have existed) every day for many years. Thanks for showing us that something that is not backed by a government or a huge company can actually not only survive but thrive. In return, I hope your privacy and wish to remain unknown will be respected because of course you, of all people, deserve to live your life in peace. I hope you're alive and perhaps even reading these messages somehow.
If he's still alive, i know he had witnessed the growth and development of his invention and he must be very proud of himself. Without him, we will still be stuck on fiat and would never experience the good thing about being decentralized. Satoshi may have left the forum 11 years ago but bitcoin managed to survived from all those threats from the government and all those negative criticisms made by people who don't even know what's the real value of bitcoin. As long as they know that bitcoin is decentralized, then its a way opposite to fiat and that's why the government is not approved with it.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Oasisman on December 15, 2021, 10:22:26 PM
Does anyone here have contact with our dear faketoshi? I'm talking about that Austrian scientist and businessman who has plagued the bitcoin community and is always in the fight for patents, he should come here on the forum and prove that he is the owner of this account. leaving jokes aside, time has passed a lot and today I think that even if satoshi appeared it would not have any impact on the price of bitcoin in the long run
What is the benefit of people claiming to be Satoshi.

Well, I guess the fame and the influence.
If he got the people to believe he's the real satoshi, I guess he could actually manipulate the market by hyping them up like what Elon has been doing for the sh*tcoins.
I'm not sure what other else is the benefit of pretending to be someone and claiming other's achievement. That alone is a fraud, regardless of the intentions.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: milewilda on December 15, 2021, 10:28:40 PM
Does anyone here have contact with our dear faketoshi? I'm talking about that Austrian scientist and businessman who has plagued the bitcoin community and is always in the fight for patents, he should come here on the forum and prove that he is the owner of this account. leaving jokes aside, time has passed a lot and today I think that even if satoshi appeared it would not have any impact on the price of bitcoin in the long run
What is the benefit of people claiming to be Satoshi.

Well, I guess the fame and the influence.
If he got the people to believe he's the real satoshi, I guess he could actually manipulate the market by hyping them up like what Elon has been doing for the sh*tcoins.
I'm not sure what other else is the benefit of pretending to be someone and claiming other's achievement. That alone is a fraud, regardless of the intentions.
I dont believe on such thing to happen because he wont intent to make out some manipulation for his own benefit if he could simply make out some profits or money via those coins that he had mined on earlier years which its not really that ethical on manipulating the market just because he was the creator.
Everything would really be mess if ever he would intent on doing that and to know that the community would be always the main decidor thing
or which do dictates the overall market demand..


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Vaculin on December 15, 2021, 11:20:19 PM
Does anyone here have contact with our dear faketoshi? I'm talking about that Austrian scientist and businessman who has plagued the bitcoin community and is always in the fight for patents, he should come here on the forum and prove that he is the owner of this account. leaving jokes aside, time has passed a lot and today I think that even if satoshi appeared it would not have any impact on the price of bitcoin in the long run
What is the benefit of people claiming to be Satoshi, if bearing the name Satoshi can fetch money they should tell me because i wonder how somebody will wake up and what come to his mind is to claim another person name because of his good invention, since we need somebody to know us for our quality work we should develop our own currency and rename it bitcoin so that we know that we have anti bitcoin part 2, and the name will come out good to the society, all the fakesatoshi is going nowhere
I think it will be better if Satoshi remain anonymous and won't be back in the forum for good. Because even if he'll be back, that will only create hype temporarily and then back to the normal volatile market. And for the fake Satoshi who claimed before, you won't be ever be Satoshi just because of your own intention.

However, it has been 11 years since Satoshi left and look at bitcoin now, its even the future of the currency. Although it won't really happen because of the existence of fiat, but once it will be adopted by all countries, it will also be considered as another alternative to fiat, and i think that will be a very great achievement already.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: NelfiNovita on December 15, 2021, 11:59:42 PM
this is indeed a very helpful idea for all mankind. The name that is often called as Satoshi Nakamoto wherever he is he must be very happy to see the progress of cryptocurrencies that is happening like it is today. Everyone will want to see who Satoshi Nakamoto actually created Bitcoin because it has been 11 years since Bitcoin has been developing and no one knows of its existence.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: lumierre on December 16, 2021, 03:50:54 AM
My point of view is that it is good that we don't know who Satoshi is. Look at Ethereum, we know who its founder is and actually, he can influence the price. If there is something wrong with Vitalik Buterin, ETH will fall, so I think that it is better when there is no influencer. Bitcoin is more decentralized and there is no a person who can manipulate the price. 


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: slaman29 on December 16, 2021, 06:03:15 AM
Why is it sad we will never know Satoshi?

I think it's even sadder that 90% of Bitcoin owners don't even use Bitcoin. I think Satoshi is sadder we are all focusing on the wrong things.
90% of bitcoin users only hold it for speculation and 10% of holders actually take advantage of the technology owned by bitcoin.
But satoshi succeeded in astonishing the world with his inventions and changing the way we transact. Bitcoin is the origin of everything and Bitcoin is the role model for all altcoins.
Satoshi remains anonymous and will always remain anonymous. He is remembered not for his name, but for his extraordinary invention that changed the world.

You mean more like 99%? Look at number of transactions in a day and compare it to the supposed millions of wallets. Take away all the trading uses like for exchanges. And you will see how few people actually use Bitcoin.

OK yes, I admit for me, most of my BTC is used in gambling and that doesn't even go on blockchain, but I send and withdraw weekly at least once and if I wasn't using BTC I would be using fiat.

But most are just buying on exchanges, not even having a single transaction.

I still don't think Satoshi would be so pleased to know this, especially when those who seem so concerned to find him are not real users.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: JayTrain on December 16, 2021, 06:50:39 AM
11 years have passed without Satoshi. Exactly 11 years ago, Satoshi wrote a post on the forum and disappeared from the net forever.
During this time, we saw many people claiming to be Satoshi. But so far, we have not seen any evidence that all these impostors are indeed the anonymous creator of Bitcoin.
Just say whatever you would like to say to Satoshi.
Bitcoin has already been mined by 90 percent, and I really want to know that the creator of Bitcoin knows that his brainchild is growing and developing with great success.


https://i.ibb.co/Rjy18yk/Screenshot-1.png (https://ibb.co/WVtQCt4)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479



For me, bitcoin and its creator is the standard of cryptocurrencies, in fact bitcoin will soon remain decentralized alone, other countries want to see the cryptocurrency centralized, and control, but bitcoin and its creator adds a new intrigue due to its anonymity.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Distinctin on December 16, 2021, 06:55:20 AM
Many try to claim as the founder of bitcoin but they failed at the end of the struggle. 11 years bitcoin still remain decentralized currency to the world which no government has the power to control the price or to claim. The purpose bitcoin was created by Satoshi has been fulfilled which many countries that adopted bitcoin has testified about the good it has done in their country.
The world will continue to celebrate the founder of bitcoin because bitcoin has done so much to the world economy and to the citizens. 11 years bitcoin has never fail for it responsibility it was created by Satoshi for the world to enjoy.
It was the first ever succesful cryptocurrency of all-time that was created in 2009 after the economic crises. Its solemn purpose is to be a fully decentralized digital currency but it was used much more than that, it became a currency of all time whom it was used as a medium of investment and trade or used as a shield against inflation by most of the people across the globe Thanks to the creator and founder, Satoshi Nakamoto.
Bitcoin became the gold stardard of all cryptocurrencies, and will be more flourish as time passed.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: BaeSuzy on December 16, 2021, 07:34:00 AM
The true Satoshi Nakamoto will always be anonymous. Never forget that the toxicity of the Bitcoin community drove it's creator into exile. This isn't a criticism of Bitcoin so much as it is the same cadre of clowns that have held back it's adoption with awful behaviour even today.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: kucritt on December 16, 2021, 01:43:09 PM
wow i just realize, that this forum are founded by satoshi too, i think bitcointalk are different with bitcoin network. im curious if the satoshi are anonymous, who is the admin of this forum? are they know who is satoshi? and why satoshi move under the shadows for 11 years?


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Kasabus on December 16, 2021, 10:15:32 PM
this is indeed a very helpful idea for all mankind. The name that is often called as Satoshi Nakamoto wherever he is he must be very happy to see the progress of cryptocurrencies that is happening like it is today. Everyone will want to see who Satoshi Nakamoto actually created Bitcoin because it has been 11 years since Bitcoin has been developing and no one knows of its existence.
I think even if Satoshi has not come back physically, but secretly he is eyeing bitcoin and the current events happening in bitcoin. But it will do more good if he chose to be anonymous the whole time bitcoin is decentralized because it will only create a huge impact on the market once he decides to show up. And there will be lots of criticisms for Satoshi, but i know for sure we will be more grateful to see him and thank for his invention. That's for bitcoin lovers.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: OcTradism on December 17, 2021, 08:32:55 AM
I also hope that Satoshi will stay anonymous for good so that bitcoin will stay decentralized the whole time. And i don't think it will make a difference if Satoshi suddenly comes back because i believe people have been used to bitcoin who is not controlled by any entity or group. And in fact, 11 years without Satoshi, bitcoin has become more developed and gets acknowledgement from the crowd. So it has made great achievements even without Satoshi in its side.
If satoshi carefully and successfully did many things to stay anonymous at beginning and early years of Bitcoin development and operation, satoshi would be wisely and carefully enough to maintain it 11 years later.

Only if satoshi proactively wants to reveal real identity, no one can find satoshi in person.

I think even if Satoshi has not come back physically, but secretly he is eyeing bitcoin and the current events happening in bitcoin. But it will do more good if he chose to be anonymous the whole time bitcoin is decentralized because it will only create a huge impact on the market once he decides to show up. And there will be lots of criticisms for Satoshi, but i know for sure we will be more grateful to see him and thank for his invention. That's for bitcoin lovers.
If satoshi comes back, it would be come from due diligent reasons which I can not imagine of at this moment. Do you imagine any possible reason for satoshi to return? I guess no reason for satoshi.

Bitcoin network runs 24/7 without satoshi. Protocol upgrades done successfully without satoshi but with thousands of votes from nodes. Developments of Bitcoin Core done by many top-notch developers without satoshi or satoshi is one of them, just under another name.

Overally, Bitcoin can keep going without satoshi and satoshi can enjoy permanent anonymity.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: bosede1 on December 17, 2021, 01:47:28 PM
I really wish to know the right person named Satoshi which we are talking about but before then I will say thank you for opening another world to us. Thank you fr giving us another source of investment that yields income in a good way.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Kelvinid on December 17, 2021, 01:51:00 PM
That I think there is no reason for him to come back and reveal his real identity to the public but rather to keep anonymous for the whole life.
he actually deserves to keep anonymous and it really has to picture out that can someone be anonymous just like he did. I guess, he never wanted to get in public and become famous but only love to get appreciated for what he does.

Satoshi = creator = anonymous


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: kaya11 on December 17, 2021, 02:35:19 PM
Oh my God Satoshi, please don't come back and never open that account again or else the price would collapse. Even if you want to contribute another one of your inventions, just please do it in an anonymous way or use another identity. Thank you Satoshi.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Leviathan.007 on December 17, 2021, 03:16:04 PM
I don't think if we hear anything about him and see him online anytime, at least for now. He is maybe still checking the forum with another account or even looking at this post right now while none knows his real identity and or even his real name and where he lives but all we know is this can not be safe for me to show up this huge amount of money in this dangerous world also this cannot be good for the market and will have a huge negative effect on investors.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: RiskySanchez on December 17, 2021, 04:12:34 PM
If he comes back online and shows himself though that's impossible I think. I want to say or just chat Thank you for the brilliant idea that made the world grateful for the presence of crypto for 11 years. You are great sir !!


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Dump3er on December 17, 2021, 06:11:13 PM
I also hope that Satoshi will stay anonymous for good so that bitcoin will stay decentralized the whole time. And i don't think it will make a difference if Satoshi suddenly comes back because i believe people have been used to bitcoin who is not controlled by any entity or group. And in fact, 11 years without Satoshi, bitcoin has become more developed and gets acknowledgement from the crowd. So it has made great achievements even without Satoshi in its side.
If satoshi carefully and successfully did many things to stay anonymous at beginning and early years of Bitcoin development and operation, satoshi would be wisely and carefully enough to maintain it 11 years later.

Only if satoshi proactively wants to reveal real identity, no one can find satoshi in person.

I think even if Satoshi has not come back physically, but secretly he is eyeing bitcoin and the current events happening in bitcoin. But it will do more good if he chose to be anonymous the whole time bitcoin is decentralized because it will only create a huge impact on the market once he decides to show up. And there will be lots of criticisms for Satoshi, but i know for sure we will be more grateful to see him and thank for his invention. That's for bitcoin lovers.
If satoshi comes back, it would be come from due diligent reasons which I can not imagine of at this moment. Do you imagine any possible reason for satoshi to return? I guess no reason for satoshi.

Bitcoin network runs 24/7 without satoshi. Protocol upgrades done successfully without satoshi but with thousands of votes from nodes. Developments of Bitcoin Core done by many top-notch developers without satoshi or satoshi is one of them, just under another name.

Overally, Bitcoin can keep going without satoshi and satoshi can enjoy permanent anonymity.

I think the most important question to answer in order to find out about Satoshi's overall motivation for any actions taken would be whether he/she/they are private individuals, part of an organization or even a project led by a national government. A government would want to stay anonymous for totally different reasons than private individuals. As we don't even have a piece of information about the origins or affiliations of the creator/s, it is literally worthless to speculate about motivations for staying anonymous.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Imran232 on December 17, 2021, 06:36:29 PM
11 years have passed without Satoshi. Exactly 11 years ago, Satoshi wrote a post on the forum and disappeared from the net forever.
During this time, we saw many people claiming to be Satoshi. But so far, we have not seen any evidence that all these impostors are indeed the anonymous creator of Bitcoin.
Just say whatever you would like to say to Satoshi.
Bitcoin has already been mined by 90 percent, and I really want to know that the creator of Bitcoin knows that his brainchild is growing and developing with great success.


https://i.ibb.co/Rjy18yk/Screenshot-1.png (https://ibb.co/WVtQCt4)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479



Love, respect, and everything else that a good personality entails.I truly miss this man, but I know he knows he shouldn't come back to the community. If he returns, the government will undoubtedly track him down and attempt to do something negative for bitcoin.He understands why he isn't here, but if he isn't, it will be a sad loss for us; we lost a brilliant mind from this world, and we're unfortunate that we didn't get to see him either. our bad luck. And thanks for life creation. I love you, sir, wherever you are right now.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: kanayaTabitha on December 17, 2021, 07:08:46 PM
If he comes back online and shows himself though that's impossible I think. I want to say or just chat Thank you for the brilliant idea that made the world grateful for the presence of crypto for 11 years. You are great sir !!

Maybe he lost his password and already on this forum with another account with legendary ranks, who knows  :D
Whoever he is, i'm sure he has already making a big impact to this world because of him a millions of transaction could be done with help of blockchain network and he initiate the blockchain system become popular and could help people around the world.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: pushups44 on December 17, 2021, 08:59:40 PM
Satoshi was obviously a highly principled individual considering he decided to put his privacy and anonymity above global recognition and potentially a Nobel Prize in economics. Then again, he may have legitimately feared being taken out by the powers that be over his decentralized protocol.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: dothebeats on December 17, 2021, 09:13:17 PM
Dude's a legend by now, and wherever he is, I know he's checking bitcoin from time to time, although tries his best to not get involved and make another splash in the market. It's still fascinating how the man disappeared completely, without a trace and not a single leak on his whereabouts. Even people whom he had close contacts with on the early days of bitcoin doesn't know who he is personally, and that is some next level shit that not a lot of people can pull off.

But all those aside, it's been 11 years and bitcoin still runs as intended, and grew a lot bigger than he envisioned during his time here in the forum.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Hypnosis00 on December 17, 2021, 09:18:28 PM
Satoshi was obviously a highly principled individual considering he decided to put his privacy and anonymity above global recognition and potentially a Nobel Prize in economics. Then again, he may have legitimately feared being taken out by the powers that be over his decentralized protocol.
He ain't saying that but he does, absolutely. Keeping anonymous for until now (and counting), it was not a big challenge if we committed to do it but that it looks like we sacrifice our social life then.

Anyways, not all wanted to get recognized and even to get rewarded because of their exemplary artwork but rather to keep hidden and simply anonymous. I love what Satoshi did and think he did the best thing to stay as Mr. Satoshi and tell his real name for protection and possibly life-threatening.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: m2017 on December 21, 2021, 07:56:04 AM
11 years have passed without Satoshi. Exactly 11 years ago, Satoshi wrote a post on the forum and disappeared from the net forever.
During this time, we saw many people claiming to be Satoshi. But so far, we have not seen any evidence that all these impostors are indeed the anonymous creator of Bitcoin.
Just say whatever you would like to say to Satoshi.
Bitcoin has already been mined by 90 percent, and I really want to know that the creator of Bitcoin knows that his brainchild is growing and developing with great success.


https://i.ibb.co/Rjy18yk/Screenshot-1.png (https://ibb.co/WVtQCt4)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479



An analogy comes to mind on this topic. Bitcoin community was orphaned after he left, but this is done to make it stronger. While BTC community was as small as a child, he looked after and taught the basics. But this could not last forever. Having fulfilled his function, Satoshi left so that the community could grow and develop on its own. Free BTC community. Without pressure from or on the founding father.

Of course, I dont know his motives. This secret will remain only for founder Satoshi.

Now every BTC user carries a piece of the creator and contributes to the future of the project. It may be just a drop, but the collection of such drops form a whole ocean.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Rufsilf on December 21, 2021, 03:57:05 PM
Does anyone here have contact with our dear faketoshi? I'm talking about that Austrian scientist and businessman who has plagued the bitcoin community and is always in the fight for patents, he should come here on the forum and prove that he is the owner of this account. leaving jokes aside, time has passed a lot and today I think that even if satoshi appeared it would not have any impact on the price of bitcoin in the long run
What is the benefit of people claiming to be Satoshi, if bearing the name Satoshi can fetch money they should tell me because i wonder how somebody will wake up and what come to his mind is to claim another person name because of his good invention, since we need somebody to know us for our quality work we should develop our own currency and rename it bitcoin so that we know that we have anti bitcoin part 2, and the name will come out good to the society, all the fakesatoshi is going nowhere
I don't really understand why people bother to know if Satoshi is alive or someone claims that he/she is the real one. If the creator is alive, then he/she sure is in the comfortable state with a happy mind thinking that he/she had touched several lives just by inventing bitcoin. Let him/her rest and let somebody claim it, we don't have to bother ourselves to argue about it.
We sure know soon if Satoshi Nakamoto starts to move again, he/she doesn't need to prove anything.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: 24Kt on December 21, 2021, 08:19:57 PM
Does anyone here have contact with our dear faketoshi? I'm talking about that Austrian scientist and businessman who has plagued the bitcoin community and is always in the fight for patents, he should come here on the forum and prove that he is the owner of this account. leaving jokes aside, time has passed a lot and today I think that even if satoshi appeared it would not have any impact on the price of bitcoin in the long run
What is the benefit of people claiming to be Satoshi, if bearing the name Satoshi can fetch money they should tell me because i wonder how somebody will wake up and what come to his mind is to claim another person name because of his good invention, since we need somebody to know us for our quality work we should develop our own currency and rename it bitcoin so that we know that we have anti bitcoin part 2, and the name will come out good to the society, all the fakesatoshi is going nowhere
I don't really understand why people bother to know if Satoshi is alive or someone claims that he/she is the real one. If the creator is alive, then he/she sure is in the comfortable state with a happy mind thinking that he/she had touched several lives just by inventing bitcoin. Let him/her rest and let somebody claim it, we don't have to bother ourselves to argue about it.
We sure know soon if Satoshi Nakamoto starts to move again, he/she doesn't need to prove anything.

Not only several lives, but it is already in millions in numbers that people are into crypto. So for me, his creation already touched tons of numbers and is still continuously influencing more people. This is indeed a great creation in this era. But the creator remains mysterious where many inventors or creators usually disclose themselves in public. I guess, we don't need to look for him, just be grateful that we are living his creation and changing more lives as day goes by.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: Lizzylove1 on December 21, 2021, 09:11:28 PM
Satoshi has done a genius job and left it for our generation to improve upon it, which of course without fail, the current developers and managers of this forum has done incredibly well to seeing we march towards the people freedom. Thank you Satoshi, I know you are seeing how things unfold if you are still alive.


Title: Re: 11 years without Satoshi
Post by: icopress on December 21, 2021, 09:25:04 PM
There is an last message on P2P foundation, again not verified/verifiable beyond a shadow of doubt, where he allegedly wrote, on march 7th 2014:
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I am not Dorian Nakamoto.
Under certain circumstances, there can be two scenarios for the development of events ... I don't remember when Satoshi's email address was hacked, but it is likely that this short-term activity was some sort of attempt to prevent Dorian Nakamoto's doxing, (against the background of news reports in 2014 aimed at deanonymization Satoshi). After that, his email came to the attention of a hacker and his account was hacked.

Or another option is possible, a variant in which Satoshi's account was hacked even before these events, in which case the hacker decided in this way to attract attention to himself, pursuing God knows what purpose.  ::)