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Title: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: Andreaslag on December 27, 2021, 06:41:44 PM
Sorry for the quick post, but if you go to the original bitcoin post posted by Satoshi in the p2p foundation website, it seems that Satoshi's account posted an advertisement of NFT's on Friday. Most likely his account is hacked, I did a google search if he is hacked recently and it turned up nothing, so maybe I am the first person documenting this. I took a permalink, it is here http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/xn/detail/2003008:Comment:169634
By looking the account, it seems that it's the legit account Satoshi announced Bitcoin.

Either the return of Satoshi (very unlikely, that's a joke) or he got hacked again, but it makes me wonder why nobody has documented so far (I think so, I only have checked google)


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: DdmrDdmr on December 27, 2021, 07:06:59 PM
There is this thread on Reddit mentioned it a couple of days ago, although the OP was deleted after being categorized as a spammer:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/roqe0t/post_from_satoshis_p2p_foundation_account/
You can't see the content now, but when I found it on Google a moment ago, it seemed to simply be pointing it out, and not spamming. Of course it could have been a scheme to draw attention to the allegedly rehacked account post's content.
Google displays:
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Hey everyone, please forgive me if I am completely misunderstanding something, but it looks to me like a post was made from Satoshi's P2P Foundation…

Does anybody know what happened to the account once hacked in 2014? (i.e. what happened to the control over the account). Strangely enough, the two accounts that posted matter-of-factly afterwards, are also long standing accounts that previously posted on that thread.


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: NeuroticFish on December 27, 2021, 07:20:49 PM
You can't see the content now, but when I found it on Google a moment ago, it seemed to simply be pointing it out, and not spamming.

The problem is that the guy has posted the entire content, and that's about NTFs. I don't know if it was meant to be spam or not.
The original Reddit post is here: https://web.archive.org/web/20211226053929/https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/roqe0t/post_from_satoshis_p2p_foundation_account/
The culprit post is: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A169634

I don't think that Satoshi would care of NFTs so much to come back for that. I certainly believe it's hacked.


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: Mbitr on December 27, 2021, 08:02:48 PM
The link from the p2p foundation comment … http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A169634

Takes us to the OpenSea marketplace ….. https://opensea.io/collection/btctrace?tab=activity

This person seems to have made a 3 NFTs -
1 . Bitcoin Genesis Block
2. Bitcoin P2P e-cash paper first ever newsgroup mention
3. First bitcoin mention forum post

This person goes by the moniker - Bitcoin Traces

https://i.imgur.com/HHPBgVv.png

No idea who this person is , but it is DEFINITELY not Satoshi.But how did he hack Satoshi’s account - can’t be the original hackers account ??


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: mynonce on December 27, 2021, 08:12:42 PM
3 days ago here on bitcointalk.org:  Thread: Satoshi wallet got activated today (Satoshi is back) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378437.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378437.0)

Drahzar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378437.msg58808981#msg58808981 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378437.msg58808981#msg58808981)
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This appearance after all these years is very much in his style. http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A169634

That was fast.


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: dkbit98 on December 27, 2021, 08:19:01 PM
No idea who this person is , but it is DEFINITELY not Satoshi.But how did he hack Satoshi’s account - can’t be the original hackers account ??
And no wonder... hacker posted something about some NFT shit advertisement  ::)
This could be some of Vitalik Buterin friends trying to pump newest jpg image ''shArt'' on centralized blockchain with unsustainable high transaction fees for ''the internet of money''
https://youtu.be/unMnAVAGIp0


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: dataispower on December 27, 2021, 08:19:33 PM
Sorry for the quick post, but if you go to the original bitcoin post posted by Satoshi in the p2p foundation website, it seems that Satoshi's account posted an advertisement of NFT's on Friday. Most likely his account is hacked, I did a google search if he is hacked recently and it turned up nothing, so maybe I am the first person documenting this. I took a permalink, it is here http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/xn/detail/2003008:Comment:169634
By looking the account, it seems that it's the legit account Satoshi announced Bitcoin.

Either the return of Satoshi or he got hacked again, but it makes me wonder why nobody has documented so far (I think so, I only have checked google)
Hacking the account of Satoshi will not attributes the falling of bitcoin and besides we have many people that is using the name of Satoshi to commit crime everytime, so fake satoshi's is everywhere so how can we know if it is the real Satoshi that they hacked his account, on your own op, how many Satoshi have you come across in the Bitcoin discussion board, and on your own do believe that Satoshi account can be hacked, because i believe he knows and anti decoders or anti hackers group


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: DdmrDdmr on December 27, 2021, 08:43:20 PM
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If the post was as displayed on the Archive site, it seemed a legitimate question that was seemingly promptly deemed as spam, rather than taking a wee breath to verify the claim to some extent (that shifts the focus from the post being on pointing out something weird going on, and not really attemting to span).

As a side note, there was this three years ago that stirred some buzz at the time:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/a1qwzy/satoshis_p2p_foundation_account_just_became/

Edit:
Archived post on p2pfoundation:
https://web.archive.org/web/20211227185807/http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A169634


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: pooya87 on December 28, 2021, 04:16:06 AM
~ posted an advertisement of NFT's on Friday. Most likely his account is hacked,
Either the return of Satoshi or he got hacked again,
There is no reason to doubt that this is a scam, a very obvious one at that too.
If Satoshi some day came back, he won't be so desperate to run a fundraising scam through a very centralized shitcoin using NFTs. How much money is such a scam going to raise anyways? Even if Satoshi had only mined a handful of blocks that would be hundreds of bitcoin worth millions of dollars.
And he definitely won't post anything anywhere without providing a solid proof such as a digital signature.


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: mynonce on December 28, 2021, 11:03:10 AM
...

"Satoshi's" p2p comment/reply deleted.
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A169634 (http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A169634) ->
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/comment/showDeleted?topicId=2003008:Topic:9402 (http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/comment/showDeleted?topicId=2003008:Topic:9402)

But NFTs still there.
https://opensea.io/collection/btctrace (https://opensea.io/collection/btctrace)


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: tbct_mt2 on December 28, 2021, 02:10:20 PM
But NFTs still there.
https://opensea.io/collection/btctrace (https://opensea.io/collection/btctrace)
So in the end, it is all about NFT. It is a good scam effort to shill and try to sell that NFT at as most expensive price as possible.

Who will readily to buy that NFT? Newbies or experienced investors? I believe if there is a person who buy it, it would be a newbie.

satoshi won't publicly appear for any reason because it breaks the original reason why satoshi decided to leave the community, to make it totally decentralized. No convincing reason to appear again.

Hacks on accounts of satoshi is not terrible. The most terrible thing is anyone can move Bitcoin from wallets which owned by satoshi. It see the probability for it is almost 0.


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: fiulpro on December 28, 2021, 04:56:15 PM
This is quite alarming, posting an advertising for NFT? That's quite funny, the first thing that Satoshi might do when he would be back is not posting an NFT advertisment, I don't even know how hacker was able to do that, now at the end of the day it's a not so we'll through about scam, it again shows us how important it is to secure your own wallet , moving the bitcoins owned by Satoshi and selling them creating a deep probelm in the market is what we should be worried about right now.
Plus the funny part is why do the person thinks that he would be using some other Altcoin, when he is the one who invented bitcoins ?! That's stupid. I hope they leave his account alone.


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: mynonce on December 28, 2021, 06:37:21 PM
This is quite alarming, posting an advertising for NFT? That's quite funny, the first thing that Satoshi might do when he would be back is not posting an NFT advertisment ...

So in the end, it is all about NFT. It is a good scam effort to shill and try to sell that NFT at as most expensive price as possible.

3 NFTs
67.1089 ETH each (~ 1/4 million USD)
Sale ends January 24, 2022 at 4:00am CET

83 views
no bids



"Satoshi's" p2p comment/reply deleted.
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A169634 (http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A169634) ->
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/comment/showDeleted?topicId=2003008:Topic:9402 (http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/comment/showDeleted?topicId=2003008:Topic:9402)

Satoshi's post is there again ???

http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A169634 (http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A169634)
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After 13 years of decentralized payment systems evolution we came where we are now, the NFT epoch. You may find NFT of this post here: https://opensea.io/assets/0x495f947276749ce646f68ac8c248420045cb7b5e/97688571117757237101471153596397975393718267124320450797737993862480318693377 (https://opensea.io/assets/0x495f947276749ce646f68ac8c248420045cb7b5e/97688571117757237101471153596397975393718267124320450797737993862480318693377)

And somebody (Kevin Parcell, who replied in 2014 to Satoshi's post "I am not Dorian Nakamoto." with "I am not Satoshi Nakamoto" http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52407 (http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A52407)) replied 2 hours ago:

http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A169634 (http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A169634)
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People and forums interested in helping people do not delete polite comments that offer thoughtful criticism, as we see done here. Goodbye.

Don't they have an admin?


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: FORMO5 on December 28, 2021, 07:24:21 PM
By looking the account, it seems that it's the legit account Satoshi announced Bitcoin.
Sounds like this shitty website that can't keep their accounts secure.  ;D


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: kaya11 on December 29, 2021, 12:20:36 PM
You can't see the content now, but when I found it on Google a moment ago, it seemed to simply be pointing it out, and not spamming.

The problem is that the guy has posted the entire content, and that's about NTFs. I don't know if it was meant to be spam or not.
The original Reddit post is here: https://web.archive.org/web/20211226053929/https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/roqe0t/post_from_satoshis_p2p_foundation_account/
The culprit post is: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/forum/topics/bitcoin-open-source?commentId=2003008%3AComment%3A169634

I don't think that Satoshi would care of NFTs so much to come back for that. I certainly believe it's hacked.

I second this, it is impossible that Satoshi would be promoting NFT's in this kind of situation. The first thing maybe he will do if he would ever come back would of course explain himself on why he is gone for more than a decade. Or so maybe airdrop some of his BTC to the people who continued his legacy.

Hackers nowadays are damn freaking good, even the long and idle account of the legend Satoshi was no excuse. How could they do such a thing? Maybe it is one of the co workers of Satoshi when he is still on the making of BTC, colleagues that have Satoshi use to give his password for forums like p2p.


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: Wind_FURY on December 30, 2021, 10:45:37 AM
Satoshi is dead, or should be dead to the community. We pay our respects and honor him, but his founding of Bitcoin should not influence how Bitcoin should be going forward into the future. We also have Craig Wright to thank for making the community more cynical. 8)


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: hugeblack on December 31, 2021, 09:00:06 AM
This isn't the first time that account has been hacked and I don't know why it wasn't frozen like it was done here.

you can read about old hacks:

 - ‘Nour’ and a New Friend: Satoshi Nakamoto's P2P Profile Makes New Post, Befriends User (https://cointelegraph.com/news/nour-and-a-new-friend-satoshi-nakamotos-p2p-profile-makes-new-post-befriends-user)
 - Satoshi’s back — at least for a “nour” (https://rossimarco.medium.com/satoshis-back-at-least-for-a-nour-46e753b3031e)

It appears that the account data is being sold or shared by hackers.

All Satoshi accounts and everything that comes out of him is considered scam unless it is officially confirmed and I don't think that when he comes back he will return to promote a scam project or without proof of himself.



Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: slaman29 on December 31, 2021, 09:27:39 AM
I wonder now just how many accounts did Satoshi have online across all the different platforms? I know it's not really important at all to find out about Satoshi but it is a bit of an interest to know how his account got hacked. Was the platform just poor security or did Satoshi himself implement bad security at these platforms?

Of course I have to believe the first possibility.


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: savetheFORUM on January 01, 2022, 09:15:28 PM
It is quite clear that the account was hacked. Because I feel the very last thing that satoshinakamoto would want to be doing right now is playing with his identity. So he’s going to try everything possible to maintain his privacy, unless he’s ready now to reveal himself to the world. And if he is ready to reveal himself to the world, it wouldn’t be by making a post of an NFT, He would have started by doing it in some other way. So this is clearly a hacker who is trying to get money out from people by creating an NFT on the open sea platform. So, don’t even fall for it.

Anyone can create an NFT these days, I’ve even seen artists that their artworks were stolen by people and created as NFT, and the artists are not benefiting anything from the work that they have done, rather it’s just some art thieves who have copied their work that are now benefiting from it on NFT platforms. So don’t try to believe anything easily these days until you are very sure about it.


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: Karl Maks on January 02, 2022, 05:03:25 PM
Literally the comment above shows that his account was hacked.


Title: Re: Satoshi's p2p account hacked again
Post by: OgNasty on February 09, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
At least nobody has purchased it yet. 

https://opensea.io/assets/0x495f947276749ce646f68ac8c248420045cb7b5e/97688571117757237101471153596397975393718267124320450797737993862480318693377

You can see from the activity the latest "satoshi hacker" originally tried to sell this NFT for 67.1089 ETH, which he has reduced now (3 days ago) to 1 ETH in hopes of finding a buyer.  I'd say this is a bit of an admission of defeat that he has realized nobody is going to pay nearly a quarter of a million dollars for a useless pic of an internet post, not even made by the one who posted it...  I'm glad.  I half expected to see a bunch of bids on this thing, but luckily his scam attempt has been ignored.  Imagine getting access to satoshi's account and then using it to shill an NFT.  Hackers these days...  They're a bit crazy.

https://static.independent.co.uk/2022/02/08/22/newFile-9.jpg