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Title: Using bpip.org as user's statistics.
Post by: uchegod-21 on February 15, 2022, 08:12:39 PM
When I click someone's profile, the most attractive option for me to view is Show general statistics for this member. But I have been disappointed for so many times because the option is disabled.
I searched the forum to know why it was disabled. I did not see a very clear reason. Just that some people said that it gives the forum some loads or downtime, especially if many people wants to access the statistics at the same time. And Theymos said this
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I might've figured it out. A bunch of things are currently disabled; I'll work on safely enabling them in the coming days


What about if everyone's bpip.org profile is linked to the general member's statistics. So that if you click on Show general statistics for this member, it will redirect you to the bpip profile of the person.

But I don't know if bpip.org is owned by an individual or it is an extension of bitcointalk.org


Title: Re: Using bpip.org as user's statistics.
Post by: jackg on February 15, 2022, 08:25:10 PM
Bpip is owner by a user who left the forum, I'm not sure who actively manages it or if it's just left to itself now.

The general statistics included quite a lot of interesting info which might not be being collected anymore and that might've been the reason why it's not being updated.

A data dump of some of the information might be interesting but things like the timezones that users are online might've been considered problematic once the forum aged/got more attention after a while.


Title: Re: Using bpip.org as user's statistics.
Post by: LoyceV on February 15, 2022, 08:30:19 PM
What about if everyone's bpip.org profile is linked to the general member's statistics. So that if you click on Show general statistics for this member, it will redirect you to the bpip profile of the person.
You should check out [β] BPIP Extension: user info & extra features add-on/extension (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224821.0) :)

Bpip is owner by a user who left the forum, I'm not sure who actively manages it or if it's just left to itself now.
BPIB was taken over by ibminer and suchmoon years ago (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5213618.0) :)


Title: Re: Using bpip.org as user's statistics.
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on February 15, 2022, 08:35:57 PM
Just use the BPIP extension, and you will be able to access a BPIP link to each user's profile as shown in the image below

https://i.imgur.com/IYHOO9K.png

But I don't know if bpip.org is owned by an individual or it is an extension of bitcointalk.org
It's not an official extension of the forum. It's just a couple of forum members who decided to create and run the project.


Title: Re: Using bpip.org as user's statistics.
Post by: Stalker22 on February 15, 2022, 10:59:21 PM
What about if everyone's bpip.org profile is linked to the general member's statistics. So that if you click on Show general statistics for this member, it will redirect you to the bpip profile of the person.

BPIP.org is a great site, but you might want to check out ninjastic.space as well. There you can find user profiles with interesting statistics as well.

Here is your profile page: https://ninjastic.space/user/id/3375107

Ninjastic.space site is also available through the BPIP Extension.


Title: Re: Using bpip.org as user's statistics.
Post by: tbct_mt2 on February 16, 2022, 08:16:41 AM
You can enjoy and use BPIP or Ninjastic.space now but because they are not official sites from the forum so they can be shutdown anytime. Even the forum can be shutdown as well.

  • Quote locked threads, 120-day merit total, custom themes, and other good stuff (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290372.0). It is an extension from BPIP team.


Title: Re: Using bpip.org as user's statistics.
Post by: uchegod-21 on February 16, 2022, 12:01:00 PM
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BPIP.org is a great site, but you might want to check out ninjastic.space as well. There you can find user profiles with interesting statistics as well.

Here is your profile page: https://ninjastic.space/user/id/3375107

Ninjastic.space site is also available through the BPIP Extension.


This is very interesting thing to know. I was thinking that it is only the bpip.org that has information about the users, not knowing of Ninjastic.space. The Ninjastic is very very interesting. It use to analyse the boards that someone is using in a pie chart and I love it.

Please bitcoin_arena, for all these information to be public, I think the site can collect or scrap someone's private information like PMs.  I don't know if this is true


Title: Re: Using bpip.org as user's statistics.
Post by: SatoPrincess on February 16, 2022, 02:09:03 PM
This is very interesting thing to know. I was thinking that it is only the bpip.org that has information about the users, not knowing of Ninjastic.space. The Ninjastic is very very interesting. It use to analyse the boards that someone is using in a pie chart and I love it.

Please bitcoin_arena, for all these information to be public, I think the site can collect or scrap someone's private information like PMs.  I don't know if this is true

https://i.ibb.co/wzPYG5K/DD8-E1-A92-55-FF-42-A0-902-D-B0-F0448-CE289.jpg (https://ibb.co/rwzv8DZ)
There is a disclaimer under the pm box that says “PM privacy is not guaranteed. Please encrypt sensitive messages” what I think it means is that your pms may be exposed by the person you are corresponding with through screenshots. AFAIK LoyceV bot, ninjastic.space, DdmrDdmr bot, bpip.org and all the other bots created to help the forum cannot scrape personal messages of bitcointalk accounts. That would mean we have no privacy.
No, we can't directly read PMs, just ones that are reported directly to us. You can send your ref link if it's warranted, but if not and they report the message you'll be banned for unsolicited pm spam


Title: Re: Using bpip.org as user's statistics.
Post by: LoyceV on February 16, 2022, 02:47:10 PM
what I think it means is that your pms may be exposed by the person you are corresponding with through screenshots.
Or by a hack, or from the unencrypted email the notification is sent through, or by Cloudflare (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2485318.msg25458974#msg25458974).

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AFAIK LoyceV bot, ninjastic.space, DdmrDdmr bot, bpip.org and all the other bots created to help the forum cannot scrape personal messages of bitcointalk accounts.
Of course :)
However, I did like suchmoon's idea (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5385766.msg59258713#msg59258713) and I think it can be useful in some cases to easily prove a PM was sent. I'm working on LoyceVs PM publisher (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3447217): CC that account and I will publish (https://loyce.club/PM_publisher/) your PM!
My sneak preview ends here. Feel free to PM LoyceVs PM publisher (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=3447217) (don't send anything that's not supposed to be published!), I need some testing material :)


Title: Re: Using bpip.org as user's statistics.
Post by: ibminer on February 16, 2022, 03:45:08 PM
bpip.org is separate website from Bitcointalk, originally created by Vod, and currently owned by 2 people, suchmoon & ibminer (me :) ). We have always only collected information that is freely available to any member, as is stated on our about page (https://bpip.org/about.aspx). This would certainly not include any PMs.

BPIP also has a chrome/firefox extension (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224821.0), which is designed for bitcointalk.org, and pulls some BPIP stats/info into it, as well as ties in the [excellent] resources provided by https://ninjastic.space & https://loyce.club.

This is in a nutshell, there is certainly a lot more history with BPIP scattered throughout this forum which has led up to where it is now, complete with community suggestions, comments, criticisms, a compromise, a server crash, and more, but I don’t want to bore everyone with a wall of details. :)


Title: Re: Using bpip.org as user's statistics.
Post by: Stalker22 on February 17, 2022, 12:44:47 AM
Please bitcoin_arena, for all these information to be public, I think the site can collect or scrap someone's private information like PMs.  I don't know if this is true

No. There is no way for anyone to scrape your PMs (except maybe Cloudflare's administrators). Even the BPIP browser extension is safe since it is open source so anyone can examine it and ensure there is no malicious code. Nevertheless, it is not recommended to send sensitive information in an unencrypted form through your private messages.


Title: Re: Using bpip.org as user's statistics.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on February 17, 2022, 09:55:05 AM
BPIP.org is a great site, but you might want to check out ninjastic.space as well.
Damn, once again I've arrived at an interesting thread late, where everything I could have said has already been said--I was going to mention ninjatastic.space as well.  I rarely visit that site or BPIP, but I spent some time on ninjatastic today looking at my posting stats, as I knew I'd been seriously slacking in the past few months and wanted to see the raw data (and damn was I on the money to my chagrin).

Somewhere in the back of my brain I knew these add-ons existed, but I just have BPIP and ninjatastic.space bookmarked and it's easy enough for me to use either one quickly if I need to.  And yeah, it'd be cool if Theymos officially added a feature that linked a member's profile to one of those sites....but I wouldn't hold my breath.


Title: Re: Using bpip.org as user's statistics.
Post by: uchegod-21 on February 17, 2022, 06:59:24 PM
However, I did like suchmoon's idea (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5385766.msg59258713#msg59258713) and I think it can be useful in some cases to easily prove a PM was sent. I'm working on LoyceVs PM publisher (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3447217): CC that account and I will publish (https://loyce.club/PM_publisher/) your PM!
Will the bot automatically publish every PM it recieve or it will only publish when there is doubt that PM was actually sent? Because people will only want their PM to be publish if there is a problem.
I have open the link and I am seeing delayed for something hours

And yeah, it'd be cool if Theymos officially added a feature that linked a member's profile to one of those sites....but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Ninjastic.space is cool, especially the analysis of favourite boards. Thank you for I am not alone on this. But if there is an option to choose which to be linked to member statistics, between bpip and ninjastic, I would choose bpip.org.


Title: Re: Using bpip.org as user's statistics.
Post by: LoyceV on February 17, 2022, 07:02:31 PM
Will the bot automatically publish every PM it recieve or it will only publish when there is doubt that PM was actually sent?
See this topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386000.0).