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ArielCoin

CRYSTALS-Dilithium is a breakthrough and unique new cryptographic method that provides strong quantum-resistant security.

We are working to turn this research into a usable, easy-to-use protocol for everyone.


Features:

ArielCoin includes a first-class implementation of the CRYSTALS-Dilithium algorithm for quantum-resistant signatures.

POW: ArielCoin employs KAWPOW as a proof-of-work hashing algorithm.

EMISSION: ~151,000,000

4% yearly deflation

11 coins per block after grace period (1 month)

3M team, less than 2% for long-term project development.

Welcome to mainnet beta!



website: https://arielcoin.org

whitepaper draft: https://github.com/ArielCoinOrg/docs/blob/main/whitepaper.md

github: https://github.com/ArielCoinOrg/arielcoin

pool: https://pool.arielcoin.org

Social:

twitter: https://twitter.com/ariel_coin
discord: https://discord.gg/K37Zt3s27A
telegram: https://t.me/ArielCoin
reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ArielCoin/

That's long years of research before you deploy this project. Are you going to disclose the team members of the project? Just want to know the background of the team members if this platform can indeed address the possible impact of quantum technology.

Ariel is quantum-secure from the genesis.

Read about CRYSTALS-Dilithium cryptography and signatures implemented in Ariel

https://pq-crystals.org/


Dilithium is one of the ROUND-3 finalists of NIST Post-Quantum Cryptography

https://csrc.nist.gov/Projects/post-quantum-cryptography/round-3-submissions


Team members will be disclosed in time.

RESERVED for future updates

http://arielpool.shop/

 ;)

-a kawpow -o stratum+tcp://arielpool.shop:3032 -u yourwalletaddress

Oh "Sheet" here we go again. How "Splendid" this should be...   ::) hint hint

Same thing as Sheet ?

The Sheet.

 ;)

We plan to list on a tier-2 exchange in August.

Some smaller markets will come earlier. We are in the very early phase.

Emission graph:

https://i.ibb.co/nDQXTfg/Ariel-Coin.png (https://ibb.co/55sQdvM)

VHO:Trojan.Win32.Convagent detected

windows binaries were cross-compiled from source on unix, probably a false positive, but we are looking into the issue.

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IMPORTANT!

Please update ArielCore, there was a minor bug with decryption of an encrypted wallet.

You will need this update to correctly decrypt wallet.dat and access your funds.

https://github.com/ArielCoinOrg/arielcoin/releases/tag/0.18.1


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Considering trojan. I have checked binaries through https://opentip.kaspersky.com/ and it does not detect anything.

Can you please be more specific, what software gave an error?

Can you run the file you have through this check?

The Sheet was a scam... I have spend lot of time on this Sheeet.

Do you believe its the same here ?

Sorry, I know nothing about Sheet, I thought it was relating to shtcoins in general and I was referring to THE DOPE SHT =)

This project has good potential.

As promising as this project might seem, the Wallet Doesn't Compile from Github so I am unsure what hack software they are using to throw these projects together..........Arowanacoin doesn't compile either...........


Tidecoin is the first and ONLY PQ-E coin that compiles...........


This project has good sounding potential points........but......


In file included from ./qt/paymentrequestplus.h:10,
                 from ./qt/paymentserver.h:40,
                 from qt/bitcoin.cpp:26:
./qt/paymentrequest.pb.h: In member function ‘void payments::Output::clear_amount()’:
./qt/paymentrequest.pb.h:769:13: error: ‘GOOGLE_ULONGLONG’ was not declared in this scope; did you mean ‘GOOGLE_DLOG’?
  769 |   amount_ = GOOGLE_ULONGLONG(0);
      |             ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      |             GOOGLE_DLOG
./qt/paymentrequest.pb.h: In member function ‘void payments::PaymentDetails::clear_time()’:
./qt/paymentrequest.pb.h:979:11: error: ‘GOOGLE_ULONGLONG’ was not declared in this scope; did you mean ‘GOOGLE_DLOG’?
  979 |   time_ = GOOGLE_ULONGLONG(0);
      |           ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      |           GOOGLE_DLOG
./qt/paymentrequest.pb.h: In member function ‘void payments::PaymentDetails::clear_expires()’:
./qt/paymentrequest.pb.h:1003:14: error: ‘GOOGLE_ULONGLONG’ was not declared in this scope; did you mean ‘GOOGLE_DLOG’?
 1003 |   expires_ = GOOGLE_ULONGLONG(0);
      |              ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      |              GOOGLE_DLOG
make[2]: *** [Makefile:12347: qt/libbitcoinqt_a-bitcoin.o] Error 1


This is where it fails compiling...............I don't know what this is exactly yet............But it looks like some Google Hook linked to Payment Address Generation which could hook the whole process back to Google IDK..............I have not done much looking yet.......................

I have never seen this error before!

To avoid problems - compile on Ubuntu 18.04

Most probably you are trying to build the project with QT but fail because you haven't installed all dependencies.

GOOGLE_ULONGLONG is not some mystical hook, but a typedef from Google protobuf library.

So, you have failed to compile it in the first place.

To compile with QT on a clean ubuntu 18.04 system

sudo apt update

sudo apt upgrade

sudo apt-get install build-essential libtool autotools-dev automake pkg-config bsdmainutils python3

git clone https://github.com/ArielCoinOrg/arielcoin

cd arielcoin

cd depends

make

cd ..

./autogen.sh

./configure --prefix=$PWD/depends/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu

make


To help you with your problem please provide more details on your system and settings.

For example, there are problems building on Ubuntu 21 as QT in depends does not compile from source without minor modification due to new gcc requirements.


Kind regards.


P.S.

After looking in, this generated file should not be in git because it is autogenerated from paymentrequest.proto

One of our devs simply hasn't put it into .gitignore, but this shouldn't be a problem as it will be regenerated once you compile everything the right way.

Wait, I don't think I understand correctly of what happened here. You didn't invent the cryptography (the crystal dilithium), you're simply working on their... chain? System? Technology? (I'm not sure which terms is correct because this is the first time I stumbled upon crystalsdilithium).

If so, why'd you need 6 years to develop your project?

It took around 6 years to develop CRYSTALS-Dilithium.

We are working on the base of a standard solid technology.

Because of what? Is it because you lack a team or because you lack resources for its development? or for other reasons?

because from the video I watched about this CRYSTALS-Dilithium technology, it is easy and efficient to implement.

To once again confirm, so you're not the developers of Crystal-dilithium? You're just a project riding their tech, comparable to a token that use BEP tech? Then this statement should not be on your post at all. It heavily mislead people that you've been working on this project for 6 years while factually you just established yourself (based on your website age) less than one week ago.

Cryptographers like the NSA contractors developed these encryption standards..........these are just Crypto Currency Devs........


The problem is they are likely packaging Malware with their "work"..........


The Google Hook is still in the code and I am not going to compile it using "Depends" folder as that is just a Google Container that installs and builds it.............meaning it's NOT open source........

IF IT DOESN'T COMPILE IT'S NOT GOING TO RUN ON MY COMPUTERS!

And I don't recommend anyone run this code unless they plan to re-install their OS in the next few weeks/months


It's focus is GPU miners, but it looks like your the same Devs for Tidecoin which makes me understand why the Founder jumped ship............Probably a disagreement in real work versus Malware work..........


To be honest your White paper is very poor, but your idea of using KaPow with CRYSTALS-Dilithium is expert.........but no point to bother with this shit coin as no good exchange is gonna list it with Malware Hooks.............

It's technically illegal to have a Pre-mine anyway, for Tax purposes..........I understand that probably doesn't matter, but it sucks that your team is the one running Tidecoin.....................


https:VirusTotal.com


I am glad I saw the writing on the wall with Tidecoin when they tried to blow smoke up my ass that Signatures worked inside the wallet............I still got a stash of it but I got out with my investment back.......but likely others did not will not!

I guess if Scammers are in control of the Quantum-Gates for the next Round we all better hope someone honest Returns to Develop a real PQ-E coin!

The Tidecoin Whitepaper is expertly done, so if your team Whitepaper here is what to expect I am not hopeful for Tidecoin anymore............but I am even so whatever...........your "team" will hurt more than me as I am even and your team probably holds a lot more Tidecoin than me so............your just hurting yourselves

First of all, the program does compile.

The code base for Arielcoin and Tidecoin is almost the same, but Ariel fixes some flaws that Tidecoin currently have and which will be fixed in the next update.



Second.

https://VirusTotal.com rise an alarm

This one: Not-a-virus:UDS:NetTool.Win32.TorTool.fvg is most likely because it bundles Tor, which is not a virus, but it is often used in botnets to keep the hacker’s anonymity.

In bitcoin/litecoin/tidecoin/arielcoin tor can be used to connect to the network to help you remain anonymous. This is part of the original implementation, it's a feature, not a bug.

BTW, I checked litecoin installation file, it rises a lot of flashes too.

tidecoin files also rise those alarms.




Third.

>>> The Google Hook is still in the code and I am not going to compile it using "Depends" folder as that is just a Google Container that installs and builds it.............meaning it's NOT open source........

What is Google Hook? Where is it in the code? What is "just a Google Container"?

The code is open source and open for anyone to review and find flaws.

You are making bold claims and write emotional text but provide no information other than obscure accusations.


From what I have read, I can conclude that you are not a professional developer and your skills are not enough to compile the source code.

Most likely you are making some mistake while building the project, but since you don't provide any information I can't help you.

The correct solution would be to create an Issue in github and help us all figure things out.


Fourth.

We have openly allocated less than 2% coins which will be used to advance the project. It is less than was technically pre-mined in bitcoin and even tidecoin project by anonymous devs.


And finally,

Considering whitepaper - it is only a draft, full version will be released when mainnet beta goes into mainnet production phase.


Kind regards.

I have edited ANN to avoid confusion.

I am NOT a developer of CRYSTALS-Dilithium.

But we DID implement it for blockchain.

CRYSTALS-Dilithium is NOT covered by any patents and they openly state that. So, it is free-for-all.

https://csrc.nist.gov/CSRC/media/Projects/post-quantum-cryptography/documents/round-3/updated-ip-statements/CRYSTALS-Dilithium-Statements-Round3.pdf


This, along with other features of CRYSTALS-Dilithium (secure Uniform distribution) has made it an algo of choice for Arielcoin.

We do not want to mislead anyone, we are very open.

I appreciate the gesture, it should helps clear some doubt from people. If you don't mind to clear another mystery that shrouded your project, can you point us out to your tokenomy? I couldn't find them in your github (and within it, your very drafty draft of whitepaper) or website, and as far as people can learn from the ann is that you allocate 3 million tokens for team, assuming that sentence on your post is talking about team allocation and not other things

Yes, sure.

It's in the code

https://github.com/ArielCoinOrg/arielcoin/blob/master/src/validation.cpp#L1155

Here is a link to colab to check the data:

https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1d13NFendT2lNtic0HaTCq1o6Vb-_rxHc?usp=sharing


Total coins: ~151,000,000

3,000,000 coins are allocated for the long term project development.

Coins will not go on pre-sale or dumped.

Coins are for:

* Payments to developers.
* Bug bounties.
* Infrastructure.
* Listings.

Once we implement Layer2 we are going put some of the coins to smart-contract and introduce DAO with coins available to developers who will join the project.

We are considering sending most of the coins to time-locked address before any listings to ensure community that we are not any kind of dump scam project.

1 block per minute

Grace period is ~1 month
Blocks  1         - 600        : 5000 coins per block ( Team )
Blocks  601     - 10680     : 50 coins per block ( First week )
Blocks  10681 - 20760      : 30 coins per block ( Second week )
Blocks  20761 - 30840      : 20 coins per block ( Third week )
Blocks  30841 - 40920      : 15 coins per block ( Fourth week )

Then subsidy is 11 coins per block, with 4% deflation every year (525600 blocks)

First year 11 coins per block
Second year 10.56 coins per block
Third year 10.1376 coins per block
and so on

I hope that clears up things a bit.

Don't hesitate to ask any questions I will answer.

Kind regards.

Oh wow. Haha. I mean something that's more readily readable by common human, not lists of codes specifying umm... I don't even know what's those line of codes shows me (sorry).

Maybe a pie chart? With something like:
3% for team
17% for presale
50% for public sale
and so on

When using the wallet to import the wallet backup, a serious error occurred and the wallet crashed.

Please, create an issue at github or join us at discord/telegram and describe the steps to reproduce an error.

Bug bounty is active.

Thank you for a good idea.

We will publish this update.

To clear some things up - there was no and will not be any pre-sale.

We have secured funds as a not get-rich-quick scheme but to provide long-term backbone for the project.

Circulating supply is created during the first month of grace mining and then by normal mining production.

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1) Zero original work done in wallet.
2) White paper is basically nonexistent - 100 page .md in github is not a whitepaper.
3) Website done in 5min where copyrighted pictures have been used from other websites.
4) Dev team has premined and will most likely dump everything after joining Exbitron .

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I want to hear the owner's explanation

apparently they wont  ???

I don't get it, it's a scam coin. :-\

As there is no token sale event, the possible foul play they will use is probably (if we may entertain us with this theory) the rug pull, this is why I asked for token allocation in percentage, so we can learn how much is for what and how much is held by team. As OP was online few days ago, I am sure they know about this accusation, I would be very happy to hear explanation or anything to thwart the accusation

It became interesting about quantum computers and coins that can protect themselves from them. In general, a coin with CRYSTALS-Dilithium signature algorithm can be developed and released? Or is such an idea itself a scam? Forgive me if it's stupid, only the other day I found out that a quantum computer can pose a threat to my coins.

CRYSTALS-DILITHIUM which is in the heart of ARIEL COIN is among the Post-Quantum Safe Selected Algorithms 2022 by NIST


Read more at the link:

https://csrc.nist.gov/projects/post-quantum-cryptography/selected-algorithms-2022


Congratulations to HODLers and early adopters of ARIEL!


We welcome you to join us on our journey to the Post Quantum Future.


We have just begun.

What I am worried about this kind of project is that it can easily be shelved as you are developing it long time.
Are there really hodlers of this coin, aside from the team themselves?
How do you convince them to invest on this project knowing that the future here is not yet clear?

Whats the status on this coin now?  I see it listed on only 1 coin exchange - TideCoin  It's easy to mine if you're a spec miner. Just don't want to waste a ton of effort here.  There's lots of shitcoins to chase and they are less "sketchy"

Anybody?

Work in progress...

Ariel Core V 0.22.1
Nov 16 2022 release

Attention! This release is a hardfork!

It marks an important milestone in Arielcoin development.

From block 400 000 smart contracts will be enabled and old 0.18.1 clients will become obsolete.

New working directory for Ariel Core is .ariel

Wallet format remains the same - you can restore your old wallet.dat files or simply copy them to new directory.

To ensure smart contracts functionality default address type is legacy.
p2sh-segwit and bech32 formats are supported in the base network.


https://github.com/ArielCoinOrg/arielcoin/releases/tag/0.22.1



You have around 25 days to upgrade.
Pool operators make sure to update to the latest core.


Stay tuned for updates!

https://twitter.com/ariel_coin/

https://t.me/ArielCoin

An important reminder to pool operators to upgrade  node and stratum to the latest version.

Currently two pools are supporting the new version:

http://pool.arielcoin.org/
http://pool.tidecoin.exchange/

Fork will happen at block 400,000



STRATUM: https://github.com/likloadm/kawpow-stratum-pool/tree/newariel

Solidity smart-contracts support has been activated on Ariel Post-Quantum Safe Blockchain !