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Title: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: bitcasinorank on March 02, 2022, 11:15:09 AM
Today I came across a thread in which many users expressed their support for boycotting Russian gambling platforms (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387589.100).

I decided to create a list of such sites, which will be updated regularly.

If you know that some casino, game provider, or affiliate site is run by Russians, write the name in the comments.

If you want to support the boycott avoid these brands:

Online Casinos:

  • 1xBet
  • 1xBit
  • 1xSlots
  • Lucky Nova
  • FastPay Casino
  • InstantPay Casino
  • Wild Blaster
  • Casino4U
  • SlotV
  • Frank Casino
  • Mr.Bit Casino
  • Vavada
  • Joycasino
  • Casino-X
  • 1xStavka.ru
  • 22Bet.com
  • bet-1xsport.com
  • betwinner.com
  • casino-z.com
  • lordbetting.com
  • melbet.com
  • playwetten.com
  • pnxbet.com
  • sapphirebet.com
  • bob casino
  • Play Amo
  • Betchan
  • Casinochan
  • Spinia
  • Betamo
  • Cookie Casino
  • Woo Casino
  • Avalon78
  • Mason Slots

Game Providers:

  • Belatra Games
  • TrueLab


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: saxydev on March 02, 2022, 11:24:27 AM
SlotV, FrankCasino and Mrbit are owned by the same company and they have on of the best responsible gambling attitudes from the internet; these are my favourite casinos who are more than fair, welcoming and respectful for their users. What about no.!?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: joeperry on March 02, 2022, 11:30:49 AM
SlotV, FrankCasino and Mrbit are owned by the same company and they have on of the best responsible gambling attitudes from the internet; these are my favourite casinos who are more than fair, welcoming and respectful for their users. What about no.!?

No one is forcing you to boycott it. It is a voluntary act to show support to Ukraine. Anyway, thanks for this list @bitcasinorank I see many users from previous topic asking for a collective list of Russian gambling sites.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: FatFork on March 02, 2022, 12:44:56 PM
OP, since I've done some research (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg58106716#msg58106716) on 1xbit / 1XBET casino before, here are a few more names for your list:

Code:
1xStavka.ru
22Bet.com
bet-1xsport.com
betwinner.com
casino-z.com
lordbetting.com
melbet.com
playwetten.com
pnxbet.com
sapphirebet.com

All these casinos are part of the BetB2B platform and use the same payment systems.

Also, an article shared here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369768.msg58662695#msg58662695) by TwitchySeal regarding the bankruptcy of 1XBET company mentions these related brands: 1xbet, 1xbit, 1xStavka, BookmakerPub, 22Bet, MelBet, BetWinner, and AsproBet.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: robelneo on March 02, 2022, 01:22:47 PM
It's better to make the names of these casinos clickable not to promote them but as a way for people to reach the right casino mentioned so they can bookmark it and not play here, 1XBIT is on the top list if the boycott is strong and continue we may see the end of 1XBIT, but we must get it out that this is Russian owned and should be boycotted.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: hyudien on March 02, 2022, 01:40:35 PM
Thanks for reminding this list especially I just found out 1xBit casino is also from there, but I personally haven't played on any of the sites on this list. But because we have been reminded of course it is very helpful for us. although this is voluntary, so it comes back to the individual gambler. What is clear is that the slightest action can become an action like a hero.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: jrrsparkles on March 02, 2022, 01:51:32 PM
May I know what is the point of boycotting those casinos? Do you think the Russian economy will be affected due to this? Just the owners of those casinos will get hit who may also against Putin's decisions. Anyway it's good to know the casino operators from Russia in a list and there are some scam sites are there should be avoided at any cost.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: YOSHIE on March 02, 2022, 02:08:22 PM
We here have different ideas, different supports and different groups, boycotts are legal as long as there is support, here I prefer (NEUTRAL), except: 1xBit gambling sites, 1xBet, indeed I have boycotted these sites, especially for my friends, prohibit playing and using the site 1xBit. boycott is not a basic reason for war, but based on 1xBit known fraudsters.

OP, I know the boycott can affect certain businesses, for example the gambling business, meaning you have to have as many supporters of the boycott as possible to achieve this level of success.

What I want to ask is, if this boycott is successful, will it affect the peace between Russia and Ukraine...!

What is clear, I want to see, how many percent of support agree with the boycott and how many percent do not agree with the boycott, for now I choose Neutral.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: judeafante on March 02, 2022, 02:12:01 PM
I scroll all the sites mentioned, I only know 1XBIT and 1XBET I'm glad that I do not have an account on any of these gambling casinos and I have not and currently promoting any of these casinos, for our Ukrainian brothers we should support and boycott these casinos just like the many sporting and financial organizations are doing now, this is one of the way to cripple Putin's administration.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Gozie51 on March 02, 2022, 02:25:15 PM
May I know what is the point of boycotting those casinos? Do you think the Russian economy will be affected due to this? Just the owners of those casinos will get hit who may also against Putin's decisions.

Well my opinion is also that such boycott won't really be the thing to stop putin because it is just minor but then it will still send the message and join the other little measures and sanctions to force Putin to rescind his decision of invading Ukraine. If the Russian business men are affected, it will slowly affect the economy in different areas including no tax payment or evasion, fall in GDP and unemployment will rise because the workers of the similar businesses and SMES will be dropped.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: kaya11 on March 02, 2022, 02:47:32 PM
I was wondering if these kind of moves is humane, even if their Leader is at Bad here it doesn't matter their common people too should suffer these kinds of punishment. Imagine this being on our shoes, what would you do? I am just expressing my ideas and I am also condemning crimes that point to humanity, not just by Russian Government but in different countries too. Is it worth the try to even do this? I mean if the earnings of these casinos are somewhat important to Russia Economy right?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: FatFork on March 02, 2022, 02:47:58 PM
May I know what is the point of boycotting those casinos?

Simply put, as a form of protest.

Do you think the Russian economy will be affected due to this?

Of course not; But neither will this:

  • Apple announced it would halt the sales of popular products like the iPhone, iPad and Mac computer in Russia.
  • FIFA and UEFA announced the decision to ban Russian national and club soccer teams from competing in any competitions indefinitely.
  • The International Olympic Committee also recommended that any international event organizers not invite Russian athletes to compete in events, as well as athletes from Belarus since the country has aided Russia during its invasion of Ukraine.
  • The International Skating Union said no athletes from Russia or Belarus “shall be invited or allowed to participate” in events until further notice.
  • NHL suspending partnerships with Russian businesses and the league no longer considering playing any game in Russia in the future.
  • The Cannes Film Festival announced it wouldn't "welcome official Russian delegations" or "anyone linked to the Russian government."
  • Artists like Imagine Dragons, Green Day and Louis Tomlinson all canceled upcoming shows in Russia and Ukraine.
  • Upcoming movie releases from Warner Bros., Walt Disney Co. and Paramount will not be released in Russia.
  • One of Russia's most famous imports, vodka, has been banned by the governors of Texas, Ohio and New Hampshire, who ordered businesses to remove the spirit as a form of protest.
  • The EU, UK and Baltic countries of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania decided to close their airspace to all Russian airlines.
  • Anonymous, the international hacker activist group behind various cyberattacks, announced they would be launching "unprecedented cyberattacks" against Putin, as well as disabling websites of media outlets in Russia.
  • The European Broadcasting Union has said that Russia will no longer be allowed to participate in this year's Eurovision Song Contest.

source: usatoday.com (https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/02/28/sanctions-bans-boycotts-russia/9322671002/)



What is clear, I want to see, how many percent of support agree with the boycott and how many percent do not agree with the boycott, for now I choose Neutral.

The boycott is not (nor can it be) mandatory. Everyone decides at his or her own discretion. We don't have to support this call, or any other.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 02, 2022, 03:47:51 PM
I do not play on any of those gambling platforms ;D

I prefer not playing on such casinos and not risking myself because we have many gambling platforms instead of playing on one of those lists. Maybe if the boycott spreads on social media and asks people out there, the boycott can work. But I wonder what will happen after that? Because those sites still have many members from many countries.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: noormcs5 on March 02, 2022, 03:50:50 PM
Today I came across a thread in which many users expressed their support for boycotting Russian gambling platforms (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387589.100).

I decided to create a list of such sites, which will be updated regularly.

If you know that some casino, game provider, or affiliate site is run by Russians, write the name in the comments.

If you want to support the boycott avoid these brands:

Luckily I did not play or know any of these gambling brands. Also, none of these gambling sites exists or promote here on the bitcoin talk forum except 1xBit (That too is a scam site, and no one plays there).
By the way, even if we boycott these sites, the majority of the users on these sites would be russian and they will continue to support their sites,


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: pawanjain on March 02, 2022, 04:04:11 PM
May I know what is the point of boycotting those casinos?

Simply put, as a form of protest.

Do you think the Russian economy will be affected due to this?

Of course not; But neither will this:

~snip

The boycott is not (nor can it be) mandatory. Everyone decides at his or her own discretion. We don't have to support this call, or any other.


Thanks for the post. So the collective boycott is not for changing things or making Ukraine benefit out of it.
But it is a sign of showing how we are against Russia's decision of invading Ukraine and we are against the war.
Although this will just harm the owner of those services but it will still create a buzz of how everyone are against Russia for the war.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: naira on March 02, 2022, 04:24:34 PM
Can this stop the war? I can't stop it and I can't recommend it. Because gamblers have their own criteria and income in the list of casinos you have mentioned. Except for 1xbit casino, everyone should avoid it. But the rest may not be as easy as an invite, as gamblers can make a lot of money from this casino and be a more comfortable bet than in other casinos. (Possible)

As for myself, I'm not very sensitive about this, as I myself have only gambled at a few casinos and that's not often. So for other gamblers, feel free to make your own choices. Gambling is the right of the individual to determine which way your money is dropped.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Fortify on March 02, 2022, 04:25:45 PM
Today I came across a thread in which many users expressed their support for boycotting Russian gambling platforms (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387589.100).

I decided to create a list of such sites, which will be updated regularly.

If you know that some casino, game provider, or affiliate site is run by Russians, write the name in the comments.

If you want to support the boycott avoid these brands:

-snip-

I'm really amazed that the list is so long, even though I only recognise a couple of the sites which have a terrible reputation already and I guess the others are much smaller. Considering bitcoin is meant to be anonymous and it should be fairly simple to keep a website anonymous, I wonder why these owners ever published where they're from or is this simply going off the hosting location? It seems like a bad idea for them to be hosting anything cryptocurrency based in Russia either way, as the country is prone to all sorts of corruption and doesn't prosecute financial theft in conjunction with other countries at the best of times. Probably best to stay well clear even when the Ukraine situation comes to an end.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: gantez on March 02, 2022, 04:36:58 PM
I was wondering if these kind of moves is humane, even if their Leader is at Bad here it doesn't matter their common people too should suffer these kinds of punishment. Imagine this being on our shoes, what would you do? I am just expressing my ideas and I am also condemning crimes that point to humanity, not just by Russian Government but in different countries too. Is it worth the try to even do this? I mean if the earnings of these casinos are somewhat important to Russia Economy right?

Such sanctions and the proposing of boycott is to try the forcing down of the Russian president in his inhumane action on the people Russia and not that people hate Russia. Today in Biden address of state, he called Putin as a dictator and to face the penalty and announced ban on Russian plans in america. This things are ways to stop what is happening in Ukraine territory. I didn't know Russia has alot of casino and gambling site including 1xbet


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Turkish88 on March 02, 2022, 04:37:22 PM
How we know in casino wins only casino.
So i am think it can be helps little bit


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: rokuen on March 02, 2022, 04:40:19 PM
The owner of several casinos you mentioned has donated a decent amount to the russian opposition(Alexei Navalny’Anti-Corruption Foundation) in the past. And I highly doubt that any of the owners of the casinos you mentioned live in Russia. Many of them have moved to different countries across the globe and pays taxes in their jurisdiction. But surely you can spread your hate to all russians and all russian speaking people.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: bitbollo on March 02, 2022, 04:55:24 PM
I am not agree with such initiative because excluding those couple of sites that are well known for having scam practices (as we have seen from dozens of post made on forum by users) most other sites are not a scam and don't deserve to be tagged like "part of the problem".

Thinking a while... I find it somewhat unfair and deplorable to hit businesses managed by INDIVIDUALS that are probably not linked to state/national entities or even worse may be opposed to any armed confrontation...
Furthermore, behind these sites we can also have Westerners that through affiliations, manage to pull down a salary/earn a living ... in short, I find a way like shooting in the pile and hitting people who have nothing to do with what is happening.
Not the best way to show our support ....


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Ludmilla_rose1995 on March 02, 2022, 05:06:12 PM
***
It is necessary to avoid such casinos/bookmakers even without boycott. These are the most famous garbage platforms that have been deceiving their users for years. I'm surprised they haven't been prosecuted yet, but I'm even more surprised that so many YouTube bloggers, especially in the MMA space, are still promoting these scam platforms.
talking about money, I'm not surprised if there are still many vloggers who are still promoting it. I prefer to follow your advice to be more selective in choosing without having to boycott any gambling or business site. when it comes to justice it's hard to say what is fair during war, everything that goes wrong is putin :D


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Cling18 on March 02, 2022, 05:23:15 PM
May I know what is the point of boycotting those casinos? Do you think the Russian economy will be affected due to this? Just the owners of those casinos will get hit who may also against Putin's decisions. Anyway, it's good to know the casino operators from Russia are on a list and there are some scam sites are there should be avoided at any cost.

I also don't get the point of boycotting those casinos because I believe that it wouldn't affect Russia too much. It still won't change the fact that Russia could break down Ukraine. It might have an impact on those sites' owners and users but it doesn't have a big impact on the whole country. The conflict should be fixed by the government and boycotting won't affect them that much.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Little Mouse on March 02, 2022, 05:40:07 PM
Wondering how double standards come to real world.
Russia is banned by Fifa and Uefa which I'm really upset with. Why the fuck they have to do dirty politics with sports?
Where was Fifa when other dominating countries had dominated some countries, I'm talking about few years back.
I really don't support this. I agree that what Russia is doing is bad, I strongly oppose any war around. But that doesn’t mean we have to ignore their casinos.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: virasog on March 02, 2022, 06:05:13 PM
The owner of several casinos you mentioned has donated a decent amount to the russian opposition(Alexei Navalny’Anti-Corruption Foundation) in the past. And I highly doubt that any of the owners of the casinos you mentioned live in Russia. Many of them have moved to different countries across the globe and pays taxes in their jurisdiction. But surely you can spread your hate to all russians and all russian speaking people.

Although i am not in favor of banning the casinos in russia, but that is also my other concern that how are we so sure that the sites mentioned in the OP really belong to russians ?


I am not agree with such initiative because excluding those couple of sites that are well known for having scam practices (as we have seen from dozens of post made on forum by users) most other sites are not a scam and don't deserve to be tagged like "part of the problem".


Are the gambling sites responsible for this war?
The answer is No, so why we should boycott them when they have nothing to do in all this?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: decodx on March 02, 2022, 06:58:42 PM
Although i am not in favor of banning the casinos in russia, but that is also my other concern that how are we so sure that the sites mentioned in the OP really belong to russians ?

If in doubt, DYOR! I think it is not wise to blindly believe anything you read online. so you shouldn't believe this either.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: aioc on March 02, 2022, 11:19:41 PM
SlotV, FrankCasino and Mrbit are owned by the same company and they have on of the best responsible gambling attitudes from the internet; these are my favourite casinos who are more than fair, welcoming and respectful for their users. What about no.!?


It's an individual decision to boycott or not to boycott if you think that you cannot abstain to play in these casinos for a period of time, members here will understand, there are players who are very loyal and will not think of playing in other casinos except their favorite ones, you can still support in Ukraine in other ways.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Tellek Garing on March 02, 2022, 11:30:34 PM
This whole war thing is getting out of hand with lots of businesses already suffering from the effects both sides are not finding things funny with economic collapse and sanctioning all over the place.

Avoiding casinos with Russian origins may not be a fair action against the individuals who operate those casinos as a private business. Since the war does not have anything to do with those individuals I think that we are more friendly with the citizens and be against the government.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: coin-investor on March 02, 2022, 11:48:12 PM
May I know what is the point of boycotting those casinos? Do you think the Russian economy will be affected due to this? Just the owners of those casinos will get hit who may also against Putin's decisions. Anyway, it's good to know the casino operators from Russia are on a list and there are some scam sites are there should be avoided at any cost.

I also don't get the point of boycotting those casinos because I believe that it wouldn't affect Russia too much. It still won't change the fact that Russia could break down Ukraine. It might have an impact on those sites' owners and users but it doesn't have a big impact on the whole country. The conflict should be fixed by the government and boycotting won't affect them that much.

At least we can make a stand of our own, these Russian citizens can request or shout their dissatisfaction on how Putin aggression is putting their business at risk so they can stop their soldiers from going to war, the world must make Russia feel and the consequences of their leader's action we don't need another Hitler in our time.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: jrrsparkles on March 03, 2022, 12:27:11 AM
May I know what is the point of boycotting those casinos?

Simply put, as a form of protest.

Do you think the Russian economy will be affected due to this?

Of course not; But neither will this:

  • Apple announced it would halt the sales of popular products like the iPhone, iPad and Mac computer in Russia.
  • FIFA and UEFA announced the decision to ban Russian national and club soccer teams from competing in any competitions indefinitely.
  • The International Olympic Committee also recommended that any international event organizers not invite Russian athletes to compete in events, as well as athletes from Belarus since the country has aided Russia during its invasion of Ukraine.
  • The International Skating Union said no athletes from Russia or Belarus “shall be invited or allowed to participate” in events until further notice.
  • NHL suspending partnerships with Russian businesses and the league no longer considering playing any game in Russia in the future.
  • The Cannes Film Festival announced it wouldn't "welcome official Russian delegations" or "anyone linked to the Russian government."
  • Artists like Imagine Dragons, Green Day and Louis Tomlinson all canceled upcoming shows in Russia and Ukraine.
  • Upcoming movie releases from Warner Bros., Walt Disney Co. and Paramount will not be released in Russia.
  • One of Russia's most famous imports, vodka, has been banned by the governors of Texas, Ohio and New Hampshire, who ordered businesses to remove the spirit as a form of protest.
  • The EU, UK and Baltic countries of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania decided to close their airspace to all Russian airlines.
  • Anonymous, the international hacker activist group behind various cyberattacks, announced they would be launching "unprecedented cyberattacks" against Putin, as well as disabling websites of media outlets in Russia.
  • The European Broadcasting Union has said that Russia will no longer be allowed to participate in this year's Eurovision Song Contest.

source: usatoday.com (https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/02/28/sanctions-bans-boycotts-russia/9322671002/)


Hmm, that's a lot of ban on Russian products which may affect Russian economy and the effects are already showing but the protest is actually to save the people and review humanity?

Do we still remember what Israel did to Palestine which isn't not that long ago but how many countries and all others showed support to Palestine but what is the worse thing is they called people who fight for their freedom as Terrorist but when people of Ukraine did the same we call them as Heroes, omg lofe is too unfair. ::)

I am not supporting the Russian, I am just actually confused why there is a difference when we say all are humans.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Saisher on March 03, 2022, 01:52:24 AM

Hmm, that's a lot of ban on Russian products which may affect Russian economy and the effects are already showing but the protest is actually to save the people and review humanity?

Do we still remember what Israel did to Palestine which isn't not that long ago but how many countries and all others showed support to Palestine but what is the worse thing is they called people who fight for their freedom as Terrorist but when people of Ukraine did the same we call them as Heroes, omg lofe is too unfair. ::)

I am not supporting the Russian, I am just actually confused why there is a difference when we say all are humans.

The Israel and Palestine war is between the two countries but this particular war between Russia and Ukraine is not a simple war but we have a new Hitler on the rise here, after Ukraine he will set his eyes on Moldova and will try to annex as many nations as he wants those countries that do not have an alliance with Nato, this is not a simple war we have seen Hitler's move on Putin's move and it should be stopped.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Darker45 on March 03, 2022, 01:57:52 AM
May I know what is the point of boycotting those casinos?

Simply put, as a form of protest.

Do you think the Russian economy will be affected due to this?

Of course not; But neither will this:

~snip~

I would never want any innocent civilian to suffer, pro-democracy or not, Russian or not. However, I am seeing the economic sanctions and all these forms of protests by individuals and companies to be the better and much more peaceful options.

The US, NATO, and other countries won't be sending fighting forces against the Russians. Neither will they be attacking Russia itself. That's good. But how do we bring Putin to his senses, to his knees? How do we make the evil in him realize that what he's doing against a peaceful country is bad? How do we pressure him to pull out his troops? How do we make him stop?

As individuals and private companies, we only have two options: do nothing and remain silent and, therefore, let the evil prosper or contribute a little to somehow show to the Kremlin that we are against the war. "Individually, we are one drop. Together, we are an ocean."


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: jrrsparkles on March 03, 2022, 02:07:27 AM

Hmm, that's a lot of ban on Russian products which may affect Russian economy and the effects are already showing but the protest is actually to save the people and review humanity?

Do we still remember what Israel did to Palestine which isn't not that long ago but how many countries and all others showed support to Palestine but what is the worse thing is they called people who fight for their freedom as Terrorist but when people of Ukraine did the same we call them as Heroes, omg lofe is too unfair. ::)

I am not supporting the Russian, I am just actually confused why there is a difference when we say all are humans.

The Israel and Palestine war is between the two countries but this particular war between Russia and Ukraine is not a simple war but we have a new Hitler on the rise here, after Ukraine he will set his eyes on Moldova and will try to annex as many nations as he wants those countries that do not have an alliance with Nato, this is not a simple war we have seen Hitler's move on Putin's move and it should be stopped.
If I am not wrong Ukraine and Russia are individual countries as well then what is the difference between Israel and Palestine war? Just because of NATO? Protest shouldn't affect the individuals who aren't doing anything or just let them decide what the leaders want to do than all other countries trying to force one another.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: davis196 on March 03, 2022, 06:58:45 AM
If you want to support the boycott avoid these brands:

Online Casinos:

  • 1xBet
  • 1xBit

It is necessary to avoid such casinos/bookmakers even without boycott. These are the most famous garbage platforms that have been deceiving their users for years. I'm surprised they haven't been prosecuted yet, but I'm even more surprised that so many YouTube bloggers, especially in the MMA space, are still promoting these scam platforms.

1xBit even has 2 signature campaigns running.The best boycott would be Theymos banning the signature campaigns of crypto casinos,that are proven to the shady and deceiving.
I wonder why the 1xBit sig campaigns are running for so long and nobody doesn't do anything,except leaving negative feedback and flagging the accounts of forum members,who are involved in these signature  campaigns.
The Youtube "influencers" are ready to do anything for money.Countless NFT/shitcoin scams were promoted on Youtube by the so called "crypto influencers".They won't stop promoting garbage crypto casinos.
I keep repeating that the legit Russian companies aren't guilty for the Russian invasion and boycotting them won't do anything,because Putin doesn't care.

 


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: michellee on March 03, 2022, 07:00:22 AM
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It is necessary to avoid such casinos/bookmakers even without boycott. These are the most famous garbage platforms that have been deceiving their users for years. I'm surprised they haven't been prosecuted yet, but I'm even more surprised that so many YouTube bloggers, especially in the MMA space, are still promoting these scam platforms.
talking about money, I'm not surprised if there are still many vloggers who are still promoting it. I prefer to follow your advice to be more selective in choosing without having to boycott any gambling or business site. when it comes to justice it's hard to say what is fair during war, everything that goes wrong is putin :D
That is because those vloggers will continue promoting is related to money and when it comes to money. I heard about the sanction to Russia but I do not know how that can impact them. I hope it will get the point to arrange to negotiate between those countries. It is your own choice to react to the war, but we all have the same hope: to stop the war as soon as possible before everything is ruined and more people will die.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: FatFork on March 03, 2022, 07:57:58 AM

Hmm, that's a lot of ban on Russian products which may affect Russian economy and the effects are already showing but the protest is actually to save the people and review humanity?

Do we still remember what Israel did to Palestine which isn't not that long ago but how many countries and all others showed support to Palestine but what is the worse thing is they called people who fight for their freedom as Terrorist but when people of Ukraine did the same we call them as Heroes, omg lofe is too unfair. ::)

I am not supporting the Russian, I am just actually confused why there is a difference when we say all are humans.

The Israel and Palestine war is between the two countries but this particular war between Russia and Ukraine is not a simple war but we have a new Hitler on the rise here, after Ukraine he will set his eyes on Moldova and will try to annex as many nations as he wants those countries that do not have an alliance with Nato, this is not a simple war we have seen Hitler's move on Putin's move and it should be stopped.
If I am not wrong Ukraine and Russia are individual countries as well then what is the difference between Israel and Palestine war? Just because of NATO? Protest shouldn't affect the individuals who aren't doing anything or just let them decide what the leaders want to do than all other countries trying to force one another.

Palestine is an autonomous entity, not a country. Despite the fact that a number of governments have recognized Palestine as a country/state, legally it isn't considered one by the UN or other international organizations. [1 (https://www.drake.edu/media/departmentsoffices/dussj/2006-2003documents/PalestineGiridhar.pdf)] The Interim Agreement on the West Bank and Gaza Strip and subsequent agreements are accepted by both parties (the State of Israel and the PLO) and acknowledge Israel's authority and presence in the region.
Although I do not want to deny Palestinians the right to self-determination, we cannot refer to the conflict between Israel and Palestine as a war between two sovereign states until Palestine obtains the legal status of an independent state. Ukraine, on the other hand, has been a sovereign state since the declaration of independence and the collapse of the former Soviet Union 30 years ago, and is recognized internationally, and even by today's Russia.



I keep repeating that the legit Russian companies aren't guilty for the Russian invasion and boycotting them won't do anything,because Putin doesn't care.

Obviously, the Russian people cannot be blamed for this invasion. The average Russian bears zero responsibility for it. Rather, it is Putin and other top Russian government officials that bear the primary responsibility. However, that doesn't mean we should just stand by and do nothing. In fact, we need to actively take a more proactive stance to stopping further deterioration.

We can start by significantly tightening sanctions against Russia. I would also like to see more long-term steps being taken that would include sending Putin a strong message that his policies are not acceptable. With such a strong message sent, perhaps Russia would actually take heed and seek a different approach to Ukraine.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mindrust on March 03, 2022, 08:07:09 AM
This is getting out of hand. How do you know if all of these casinos support Putin? Does it make sense to punish all the Russian people just because they are Russians regardless of who they support? I guess we passed the point of no returns and everything is going full retard from now on.

That's a big list. The witch hunt has begun.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: swogerino on March 03, 2022, 08:13:13 AM
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It is necessary to avoid such casinos/bookmakers even without boycott. These are the most famous garbage platforms that have been deceiving their users for years. I'm surprised they haven't been prosecuted yet, but I'm even more surprised that so many YouTube bloggers, especially in the MMA space, are still promoting these scam platforms.
talking about money, I'm not surprised if there are still many vloggers who are still promoting it. I prefer to follow your advice to be more selective in choosing without having to boycott any gambling or business site. when it comes to justice it's hard to say what is fair during war, everything that goes wrong is putin :D
That is because those vloggers will continue promoting is related to money and when it comes to money. I heard about the sanction to Russia but I do not know how that can impact them. I hope it will get the point to arrange to negotiate between those countries. It is your own choice to react to the war, but we all have the same hope: to stop the war as soon as possible before everything is ruined and more people will die.

Unfortunately after Putin saw that he miscalculated the invasion of Ukraine to happen in just 2-3 days in his evil mind he know has given order to bombard anything,especially civilians target,like buildings,shops and whatever the case.I think this will only make the situation worse for simple Russian citizens that are against the war.Sure some intelligent youth in Russia is coming up against this war but they are being arrested while the middle age people think this is a "necessary war" and there is a lot of disagreement between the generations there.I don't see any relief anytime soon for the Russian citizens,they will suffer their president decision for some time to come.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: iv4n on March 03, 2022, 08:49:39 AM
This is getting out of hand. How do you know if all of these casinos support Putin? Does it make sense to punish all the Russian people just because they are Russians regardless of who they support? I guess we passed the point of no returns and everything is going full retard from now on.

That's a big list. The witch hunt has begun.

I totally agree with you, the witch hunt has started and things are getting out of control! I'm afraid we've really reached a point of no return, the politician-led war machine is dragging everyone into the war, and most are somehow forced to choose a side! Why are many people quick to point a finger at someone? It is difficult to stay normal and reasonable in these difficult times, not to give up under pressure and propaganda that poisons everyone!
I hope this ends soon because if it doesn't end quickly it will probably take a long time... and that's not good at all for anyone except the arms industry and other big global players who don't care about ordinary people at all! The only thing they care about is more control and more profit!


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: wildan88 on March 03, 2022, 09:41:34 AM
This is getting out of hand. How do you know if all of these casinos support Putin? Does it make sense to punish all the Russian people just because they are Russians regardless of who they support?

I don't think the Russian people will suffer because the gambling site has been boycott and even if no players will play in their gambling site I don't think that they will suffer from it. Only the gambling owners which are paying taxes to their government? so basically not the Russian people, you see now what Putin did? all of the people are suffering even his own countrymen.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: kotajikikox on March 03, 2022, 09:55:00 AM
Today I came across a thread in which many users expressed their support for boycotting Russian gambling platforms (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387589.100).

I decided to create a list of such sites, which will be updated regularly.

If you know that some casino, game provider, or affiliate site is run by Russians, write the name in the comments.

If you want to support the boycott avoid these brands:

Online Casinos:

  • 1xBet
  • 1xBit
  • LTC Casino
  • Bitstarz

Looks like these are the casinos that has been advertised and promoted in our forum here?(well that's only what i remember and acknowledge)

Also the casino i quoted are the worst specially these 2 1xbit and 1xbet .

does this mean that the popular gambling sites here in forum does not have Russian connection or operators? if does then that is a Good news for me.

Thanks for sharing here OP this will be a good knowledge for Whom who wanted to Boycott Russian businesses .[/list]


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Vlad King Billy on March 03, 2022, 11:20:20 AM
Today I came across a thread in which many users expressed their support for boycotting Russian gambling platforms (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387589.100).

I decided to create a list of such sites, which will be updated regularly.

If you know that some casino, game provider, or affiliate site is run by Russians, write the name in the comments.

If you want to support the boycott avoid these brands:

Online Casinos:

  • 1xBet
  • 1xBit
  • 1xSlots
  • TrueFlip
  • Emojino
  • Lucky Nova
  • GG.bet
  • TTR Casino
  • Surf Casino
  • LTC Casino
  • FastPay Casino
  • InstantPay Casino
  • Wild Blaster
  • Casino4U
  • SlotV
  • Frank Casino
  • Mr.Bit Casino
  • Bitstarz
  • Play Fortuna
  • Booi
  • DLX
  • Vavada
  • Joycasino
  • Casino-X
  • 1xStavka.ru
  • 22Bet.com
  • bet-1xsport.com
  • betwinner.com
  • casino-z.com
  • lordbetting.com
  • melbet.com
  • playwetten.com
  • pnxbet.com
  • sapphirebet.com
  • bob casino
  • Play Amo
  • Betchan
  • Casinochan
  • Spinia
  • Betamo
  • Cookie Casino
  • Woo Casino
  • Avalon78
  • Mason Slots
  • King Billy

Game Providers:

  • Belatra Games
  • TrueLab

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Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Ryker1 on March 03, 2022, 12:37:49 PM
Well would you mind creating a voting poll for this so we will know who will support the boycott against all Russian gambling platforms?
Because for me, this is not necessary because they are innocent people here and they are businessmen we even don't know if their investors are Russian people that will perhaps have a negative effect on their business. Poor to them, they also a victim here, we should blame here the Russian leader and other high ranks on their country.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: virasisog on March 03, 2022, 01:04:52 PM
I don't think the Russian people will suffer because the gambling site has been boycott and even if no players will play in their gambling site I don't think that they will suffer from it. Only the gambling owners which are paying taxes to their government? so basically not the Russian people, you see now what Putin did? all of the people are suffering even his own countrymen.
Those who've worked on these sites will be affected, remember that they're going to look for jobs and with Russia slowly getting a little less room to breathe due to economic sanctions, Russian innocents will be suffering because there's going to be an increase in unemployment and the employment isn't keeping up with the pace.

It will surely affect them but I don't think it will cause a massive unemployment to because Russians don't just focus on the gambling industry. Their country is too big and there are still lots of opportunities for them if ever gamblers will boycott their gambling sites. Owners of these sites aren't responsible for the current war so it will be unfair to make them suffer.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: naira on March 03, 2022, 01:53:53 PM
This is getting out of hand. How do you know if all of these casinos support Putin? Does it make sense to punish all the Russian people just because they are Russians regardless of who they support? I guess we passed the point of no returns and everything is going full retard from now on.

That's a big list. The witch hunt has begun.
It's a bit of an exaggeration to punish all Russians or rather the gambling sector just because they live there. Not even a few large-scale demonstrations in Russia condemning the act of war. So we just need to be wise about this, and not expand all the gambling sector, they are looking for food from the casinos, there are families to feed who don't even support President Putin invasion. Some people are ignorant and would be very reckless if punishments were imposed on those Russians who outwardly refused to fight.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mindrust on March 03, 2022, 01:58:01 PM
This is getting out of hand. How do you know if all of these casinos support Putin? Does it make sense to punish all the Russian people just because they are Russians regardless of who they support?

I don't think the Russian people will suffer because the gambling site has been boycott and even if no players will play in their gambling site I don't think that they will suffer from it. Only the gambling owners which are paying taxes to their government? so basically not the Russian people, you see now what Putin did? all of the people are suffering even his own countrymen.

Wrong. There are hundreds of Russian employees getting their paychecks from these casinos probably. (It makes sense to hire Russians first when you are a Russian employer) Like you said, these casinos also pay lots of taxes to the Russian government and that money goes to the Russian people. If you boycott these casinos, you indeed make the Russian people suffer for the crimes they didn't commit.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: noormcs5 on March 03, 2022, 02:59:23 PM
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It is necessary to avoid such casinos/bookmakers even without boycott. These are the most famous garbage platforms that have been deceiving their users for years. I'm surprised they haven't been prosecuted yet, but I'm even more surprised that so many YouTube bloggers, especially in the MMA space, are still promoting these scam platforms.
talking about money, I'm not surprised if there are still many vloggers who are still promoting it. I prefer to follow your advice to be more selective in choosing without having to boycott any gambling or business site. when it comes to justice it's hard to say what is fair during war, everything that goes wrong is putin :D
That is because those vloggers will continue promoting is related to money and when it comes to money. I heard about the sanction to Russia but I do not know how that can impact them. I hope it will get the point to arrange to negotiate between those countries. It is your own choice to react to the war, but we all have the same hope: to stop the war as soon as possible before everything is ruined and more people will die.

Unfortunately after Putin saw that he miscalculated the invasion of Ukraine to happen in just 2-3 days in his evil mind he know has given order to bombard anything,especially civilians target,like buildings,shops and whatever the case.I think this will only make the situation worse for simple Russian citizens that are against the war.Sure some intelligent youth in Russia is coming up against this war but they are being arrested while the middle age people think this is a "necessary war" and there is a lot of disagreement between the generations there.I don't see any relief anytime soon for the Russian citizens,they will suffer their president decision for some time to come.

Although i have seen a few threads starting with an initiative to ban the russians gambling sites but first we need to have some of the following data.

1) How many people are actively playing on this casino on this forum?
2) How many people actually leaving those sites after reading these threads?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: dothebeats on March 03, 2022, 03:31:19 PM
Some of these platforms I'd openly boycott not because they're Russian, but because they don't really have a provably fair system, nor do they have anything in particular that excites me to play on them. But yeah, after thinking about it for some time, boycotting services, products, and almost everything that comes from Russia at this point is partly good, because for sure that will make the Russian citizens think thrice of what their president is doing and perhaps make a move to finally overthrow the head of state.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: pawanjain on March 03, 2022, 04:10:46 PM
This is getting out of hand. How do you know if all of these casinos support Putin? Does it make sense to punish all the Russian people just because they are Russians regardless of who they support? I guess we passed the point of no returns and everything is going full retard from now on.

That's a big list. The witch hunt has begun.

I totally agree with you, the witch hunt has started and things are getting out of control! I'm afraid we've really reached a point of no return, the politician-led war machine is dragging everyone into the war, and most are somehow forced to choose a side! Why are many people quick to point a finger at someone? It is difficult to stay normal and reasonable in these difficult times, not to give up under pressure and propaganda that poisons everyone!
I hope this ends soon because if it doesn't end quickly it will probably take a long time... and that's not good at all for anyone except the arms industry and other big global players who don't care about ordinary people at all! The only thing they care about is more control and more profit!


Things are just becoming worse everyday. Just today I got to know that the Russian space agency Roscosmos has refused to launch the internet satellites.
They have already been paid for the launch of OneWeb but are now refusing to launch because of the sanctions on Russia due to the invasion.
Things are starting to get heated and we don't know what might happen next. Just pray for things to settle down soon.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Ludmilla_rose1995 on March 03, 2022, 04:58:19 PM
That is because those vloggers will continue promoting is related to money and when it comes to money. I heard about the sanction to Russia but I do not know how that can impact them. I hope it will get the point to arrange to negotiate between those countries. It is your own choice to react to the war, but we all have the same hope: to stop the war as soon as possible before everything is ruined and more people will die.
I saw on the news online that the attacks continued to be carried out by Putin, it was clear that the sanctions (product boycott or economy) currently being imposed did not mean anything to Putin. If Putin doesn't stop attacking but the people want him to stop, then it's the people who have to demote Putin with a massive demonstration, for sure.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on March 03, 2022, 09:05:12 PM
If you want to support the boycott avoid these brands:

Online Casinos:

  • 1xBet
  • 1xBit

It is necessary to avoid such casinos/bookmakers even without boycott. These are the most famous garbage platforms that have been deceiving their users for years. I'm surprised they haven't been prosecuted yet, but I'm even more surprised that so many YouTube bloggers, especially in the MMA space, are still promoting these scam platforms.
You took the words out of my head, same thing I observed, 1xbet and 1xbit have been scamming people for years, so i support that even without the Russia Ukraine conflict currently going on, they deserve to be boycotted.

And as for being suprised, you shouldn't be, some members here on bitcointalk know that this two casinos are running by known scammers, and yet, they are still promoting them, what is the secret? "Money" money is the secret, the same way they pay members here to promote them is the same way they pay YouTubers to promote them, there's absolutely nothing there to be surprised about.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Lanatsa on March 03, 2022, 10:57:49 PM
I don't think the Russian people will suffer because the gambling site has been boycott and even if no players will play in their gambling site I don't think that they will suffer from it. Only the gambling owners which are paying taxes to their government? so basically not the Russian people, you see now what Putin did? all of the people are suffering even his own countrymen.
Those who've worked on these sites will be affected, remember that they're going to look for jobs and with Russia slowly getting a little less room to breathe due to economic sanctions, Russian innocents will be suffering because there's going to be an increase in unemployment and the employment isn't keeping up with the pace.
This is the sad thing or the chain of reaction on what their Leader or President had done on which with these sanctions it would really heavily affected its citizens and businesses around thats why im not really that much

agree with these kind of boycotts just because they are russian gambling platform but of course there would be some exemptions like those common scammy gambling sites that we do have which is russian which had
been mentioned.Even this war didnt happened but still they should really be needed to be boycott.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: aioc on March 04, 2022, 12:34:49 AM
That is because those vloggers will continue promoting is related to money and when it comes to money. I heard about the sanction to Russia but I do not know how that can impact them. I hope it will get the point to arrange to negotiate between those countries. It is your own choice to react to the war, but we all have the same hope: to stop the war as soon as possible before everything is ruined and more people will die.
I saw on the news online that the attacks continued to be carried out by Putin, it was clear that the sanctions (product boycott or economy) currently being imposed did not mean anything to Putin. If Putin doesn't stop attacking but the people want him to stop, then it's the people who have to demote Putin with a massive demonstration, for sure.
Putin is a dictator he has good propaganda in his own country just like what Hitler did soldiers will die and commit suicide for his cause, just recently I saw a Russian soldier holding two grenades walking to the Ukrainian crowds and asking them to surrender, the boycott will not have an immediate effect, it will take months before it does, right now Ukraine will need help in fighting the aggression, what happen to Ukraine can happen to any country.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Haunebu on March 04, 2022, 02:32:34 AM
This list actually comprises of some of the biggest crypto gambling sites currently(1xbit, 1xbet etc) which makes sense since some of the biggest scammers in the world are from Russia.

However, I don't really think boycotting them/isolating them in this manner will affect them a lot unless they launched recently and are heavily dependent on gamblers from this forum.

All these sanctions etc will only hurt the Russian citizens. Putin is hell-bent on turning this war into a nuclear war and he isn't bothered by anything else.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: michellee on March 04, 2022, 04:37:55 AM
Unfortunately after Putin saw that he miscalculated the invasion of Ukraine to happen in just 2-3 days in his evil mind he know has given order to bombard anything,especially civilians target,like buildings,shops and whatever the case.I think this will only make the situation worse for simple Russian citizens that are against the war.Sure some intelligent youth in Russia is coming up against this war but they are being arrested while the middle age people think this is a "necessary war" and there is a lot of disagreement between the generations there.I don't see any relief anytime soon for the Russian citizens,they will suffer their president decision for some time to come.
But I heard the second stage of dialogue between the two sides. Hopefully, there will be a ceasefire from Russia, considering there have been so many casualties in Ukraine. Maybe Putin never thought how great the Ukrainians were defending their country that the war was still going on. But I remain optimistic to see this war will end soon as the UN and other countries are urging Russia to leave Ukraine as soon as possible.

I saw on the news online that the attacks continued to be carried out by Putin, it was clear that the sanctions (product boycott or economy) currently being imposed did not mean anything to Putin. If Putin doesn't stop attacking but the people want him to stop, then it's the people who have to demote Putin with a massive demonstration, for sure.
The sanctions imposed on Russia will indeed affect their future, even if they mean nothing at the moment. After this war, Putin will surely recalculate what he still has and if he sees the sanctions continuing, he will surely be surprised to see it because it could mean he can't do much. With pressure from other countries to withdraw from Ukraine, Putin has to look at the situation because if he continues to attack Ukraine, there is a possibility that he will regret it later.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: smyslov on March 04, 2022, 05:29:45 AM
I support casinos that are Russian based the world is making it known to the Russian administration that we are against their aggression against Ukraine, it's one of the contributions of players here to boycott these Russian based casinos, a boycott is voiced, and if the voice is strong enough Putin will have a second thought for further action on his aggression.
I just noticed that many of these casinos do not have an announcement only 1XBIT but its reputation is badly tarnished not because of the war but because of their action.


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Agreeing this action towards Russian Invasion because i hate war and we are all hated this surely.

Some of these platforms I'd openly boycott not because they're Russian, but because they don't really have a provably fair system,

but at least you are parting the not playing in their platform .


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: blockman on March 04, 2022, 09:41:12 AM
Everyone would really boycott the firstly mentioned casinos as they've got scam accusations. I don't use most of them so I've got no issues whether they'll be boycotted or not.
I'm only familiar with two of them the gg.bet and pnxbet.com for esports. I didn't know that they're russian based. Anyway, as people boycott all of them or not, as long as I'm not even using it, can it be considered as boycotting or just ignoring them?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: arwin100 on March 04, 2022, 09:53:03 AM
Everyone would really boycott the firstly mentioned casinos as they've got scam accusations. I don't use most of them so I've got no issues whether they'll be boycotted or not.
I'm only familiar with two of them the gg.bet and pnxbet.com for esports. I didn't know that they're russian based. Anyway, as people boycott all of them or not, as long as I'm not even using it, can it be considered as boycotting or just ignoring them?

I ignore most of the site listed since in the first place majority of them got bad reputation here so I guess this is easy job for people to forget about that casinos since there are so many good one continuously running without any big issues occur and for now other Russian which is good well be out of my list since as stated its part of supporting Ukraine on their battle and maybe for simple action we do it will go to proper authority and they realized that they are been hurt to much in economical aspects.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Maslate on March 04, 2022, 02:01:24 PM
I played on some of the casinos on the list in the past, but with the new casinos coming out with a good reputation, I was able to stick with them.
However, I'm not literally joining the boycott, in the first place I don't gamble on these casinos so it's like I boycott them.

I hope this war will be over soon so we will not have this kind of boycott to sanction a business operating in Russia, this is not good for the crypto space since we also have lots of crypto users in that country.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mm2543363580 on March 04, 2022, 03:13:59 PM
I played on some of the casinos on the list in the past, but with the new casinos coming out with a good reputation, I was able to stick with them.
However, I'm not literally joining the boycott, in the first place I don't gamble on these casinos so it's like I boycott them.

I hope this war will be over soon so we will not have this kind of boycott to sanction a business operating in Russia, this is not good for the crypto space since we also have lots of crypto users in that country.
I would like to join the boycott, war is not the solution and its an impose of power on the weak. Many countries in the world are going through wars. This must end. I am glad many other companies and industries have joined to play their role. Netflix, Formula 1, Master card, H&M. Little by little it can help.
May we all see a peaceful world around us soon!


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Gozie51 on March 04, 2022, 03:24:11 PM

However, I don't really think boycotting them/isolating them in this manner will affect them a lot unless they launched recently and are heavily dependent on gamblers from this forum.

All these sanctions etc will only hurt the Russian citizens. Putin is hell-bent on turning this war into a nuclear war and he isn't bothered by anything else.


The purpose of the sanctions is not for Putin or his family but to cause more important personalities in Russia to call him to order. The sanction is capable also to lead to disagreement in his army forces to begin deciding not to take orders because of trying to force him to back down but for now we have not seen any of that yet, let us be hoping the sanctions will get the conscience of Putin to let go. Sanctions are meant that the economy goes down and he may not see need to finance the invasion any further.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: naira on March 04, 2022, 03:25:03 PM
Everyone would really boycott the firstly mentioned casinos as they've got scam accusations. I don't use most of them so I've got no issues whether they'll be boycotted or not.
I'm only familiar with two of them the gg.bet and pnxbet.com for esports. I didn't know that they're russian based. Anyway, as people boycott all of them or not, as long as I'm not even using it, can it be considered as boycotting or just ignoring them?
As many have said before, it does not oblige that we should boycott all casinos. Maybe without a boycott 1xbit will no longer be visited by people who know their history until now. As for the fact that you just found out that from the list above it turns out that some are based in Russia, that doesn't mean we have to boycott it outright. This is only an invitation, and is not mandatory, only proves that it is voluntary, nothing more and nothing less. I don't think it's necessary to judge Russians as a whole. Enough to denounce his invasion and not to the common people who make a living from the casinos. This is clearly excessive in my opinion, after all, we must be wiser in making decisions.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: og kush420 on March 04, 2022, 04:46:38 PM
Today I came across a thread in which many users expressed their support for boycotting Russian gambling platforms (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387589.100).

I decided to create a list of such sites, which will be updated regularly.

If you know that some casino, game provider, or affiliate site is run by Russians, write the name in the comments.

If you want to support the boycott avoid these brands:

Online Casinos:

  • 1xBet
  • 1xBit
  • 1xSlots
  • TrueFlip
  • Emojino
  • Lucky Nova
  • GG.bet
  • TTR Casino
  • Surf Casino
  • LTC Casino
  • FastPay Casino
  • InstantPay Casino
  • Wild Blaster
  • Casino4U
  • SlotV
  • Frank Casino
  • Mr.Bit Casino
  • Bitstarz
  • Play Fortuna
  • Booi
  • DLX
  • Vavada
  • Joycasino
  • Casino-X
  • 1xStavka.ru
  • 22Bet.com
  • bet-1xsport.com
  • betwinner.com
  • casino-z.com
  • lordbetting.com
  • melbet.com
  • playwetten.com
  • pnxbet.com
  • sapphirebet.com
  • bob casino
  • Play Amo
  • Betchan
  • Casinochan
  • Spinia
  • Betamo
  • Cookie Casino
  • Woo Casino
  • Avalon78
  • Mason Slots

Game Providers:

  • Belatra Games
  • TrueLab
oh gosh its a long list. Russia out passes in this as well. I personally believe that there will more coming to Russia which we have not even thought about. But that's a small step by an individual to boycott the sites. We cannot pretend that nothing has happened. Who know which country is next on target the war must stop and it should stop. This is not solution. Great initiative, greatly appreciated!


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: tomal1003 on March 04, 2022, 05:57:40 PM
First of all, I think all these casinos are unpopular except 1xbet (already many users have reported it as a scam).
But I am sorry to say that I cannot join such a two-faced boycott initiative. The reason I say this is because when it comes to Ukraine and Russia, everyone is showing support and sympathy for Ukraine. But this is not the only war. Why don't people show support for Palestine? Why was the world silent when America invaded Iraq and Afghanistan?
As I couldn't boycott Israel and The US, I will not boycott Russia.

I know war cannot bring happiness. It should be stopped as soon as possible for mankind.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: uneng on March 04, 2022, 06:30:41 PM
Everyone would really boycott the firstly mentioned casinos as they've got scam accusations. I don't use most of them so I've got no issues whether they'll be boycotted or not.
Despite the well known scam accusations, there are still many players on those platforms, otherwise they wouldn't be investing in marketing so intensily. And that is really interesting, because if people aren't worried about being directly prejudiced (through a scam) by those sites, would they really worry about financing those sites and consequently financing russian government through taxes to inject more money on the war?

i mean, if users from those platforms don't even care for themselves, will they care for Ukraine or any other nation Russia decides to invade?

I'm only familiar with two of them the gg.bet and pnxbet.com for esports. I didn't know that they're russian based. Anyway, as people boycott all of them or not, as long as I'm not even using it, can it be considered as boycotting or just ignoring them?
Probably ignoring would be the most accurate term, since you have been doing this since always.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: MCVXYZ on March 04, 2022, 06:52:38 PM
May I know what is the point of boycotting those casinos? Do you think the Russian economy will be affected due to this? Just the owners of those casinos will get hit who may also against Putin's decisions. Anyway it's good to know the casino operators from Russia in a list and there are some scam sites are there should be avoided at any cost.

It may not damage the economy, but people want to express their solidarity, mutual support. There are thousands of people in the streets of Europe, America, Canada which may not change anything but I think its a sign of solidarity.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Flexystar on March 04, 2022, 08:06:20 PM
If you want to support the boycott avoid these brands:

Online Casinos:

  • 1xBet
  • 1xBit

It is necessary to avoid such casinos/bookmakers even without boycott. These are the most famous garbage platforms that have been deceiving their users for years. I'm surprised they haven't been prosecuted yet, but I'm even more surprised that so many YouTube bloggers, especially in the MMA space, are still promoting these scam platforms.

Shits man. I literally had this casinos app on my phone actually. It is maintained so properly that no one would ever know that it’s fake one. They must have put huge amount of money into creating deceptive website and phone applications. Lolz.  I think they should have focused more on the quality of the product rather than too much beautification on the UI side. Definitely if there are so many negative reviews about this casino then I’m so thankful I’m coming across new platforms through this forum’s trust list.

It makes sense how those 1x are always there somewhere in the name of casino. That makes it more suspicious these days.

Big thanks to Op for making such list. Surely we will try to avoid them, for Ukraine sake and for the Russian people who are against the war.

Initially I had little emotion that Casino owners might be those who wouldn’t want the war but they are forced to do it. However with current changing scenario in battle field I think they must be boycotted.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: DoublerHunter on March 04, 2022, 09:57:38 PM
Everyone would really boycott the firstly mentioned casinos as they've got scam accusations. I don't use most of them so I've got no issues whether they'll be boycotted or not.
~snip~
^ Boycotted or not, this casino should be avoided at all cost because it has multi-scam accusations which they keep advertising their brand name even we know here in the forum about how truly they are. I don't even know the rest of the casinos on the list and once I don't know the reputation of a gambling casino, I will not waste my time and spending on them. In other cases, if there is a gambling casino which is I know if they are good or have a reputation, I will never boycott because I know how legitimately they are and it is a different case from the Russian war.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: FatFork on March 04, 2022, 10:33:14 PM
As I couldn't boycott Israel and The US, I will not boycott Russia.

Your reasoning doesn't seem to make much sense. Why couldn't you boycott Israel or the US? What kept you from doing so?
Aside from that, the Ukraine crisis and the Palestinian cause have nothing in common, and attempts to equate the two is wrong, to say the least.  Perhaps a better comparison would be the Nazi-Soviet invasion of Poland at the beginning of World War II.



Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: coolcoinz on March 04, 2022, 10:42:07 PM
This is getting out of hand. How do you know if all of these casinos support Putin? Does it make sense to punish all the Russian people just because they are Russians regardless of who they support? I guess we passed the point of no returns and everything is going full retard from now on.

That's a big list. The witch hunt has begun.

As much as i hate what Russia is doing, banning every single company and product just because it is operated by Russians is a different thing.
We should see a difference between:
a casino located in Russia and operated by Russians
a casino operated by non-Russians, just registered in Russia
a casino that uses Russian servers, but is not located nor operated by Russians
a casino that is operated by Russians living abroad, registered and taxed outside Russia

Which one of the above would you boycott?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: KennyR on March 04, 2022, 10:49:40 PM
That's a big list, and I've played in very few of this. I remember the games played on Bitstarz. Other than this maybe I've used it, but doesn't remember. This is business for them, just on boycotting these sites the Russian government or Putin isn't gonna face difficulty in life. It is the common man behind the functioning of these sites will experience the difficulty. Some has suggested of different platforms to boycott as below.

a casino located in Russia and operated by Russians
a casino operated by non-Russians, just registered in Russia
a casino that uses Russian servers, but is not located nor operated by Russians
a casino that is operated by Russians living abroad, registered and taxed outside Russia

This too isn't a fair way, because people doesn't want war. Only the government is in need of it.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Luqman on March 04, 2022, 10:53:27 PM
Making Boycot for Russian business may give a certain influence, but will it really influence? And if this will give any certain influence, what is about the Russian people that also don't support the war? We also know that Ukraine is also involved in the war, why also don't boycott the business or product from the country?
I never support war everywhere, not only in Russia and also in Ukraine. So far, we have seen also some wars in the world, but why should we only this to boycott?

But for 1xbit and its friend, I support to not using them because they are exact scammers


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Odusko on March 04, 2022, 11:04:17 PM
The question I always ask is, have the various sections on Russia made them withdraw their aggressive attacks on Ukraine, and what are more effective ways the NATO countries and the UK have to adopt that could send a direct message to the Russian government I believe the ordinary Russian Citizens are the most affected in this war because many Russian own businesses are forced to either close down or change ownership but the government seems not to be getting the message.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Ulven on March 04, 2022, 11:34:00 PM
Your list has sites that deserve to be boycotted due to its bad reputation. As for the Ukraine crisis with Russia, I do not think that imposing sanctions on Russia would be the most appropriate solution. Rather, other peaceful ways must be sought that satisfies both parties in order to resolve the conflict without bloodshed and the return of water to its courses. I hope to see this is not a war between two countries, but rather a mutual understanding and peace.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Haunebu on March 05, 2022, 01:43:45 AM
As much as i hate what Russia is doing, banning every single company and product just because it is operated by Russians is a different thing.
We should see a difference between:
a casino located in Russia and operated by Russians
a casino operated by non-Russians, just registered in Russia
a casino that uses Russian servers, but is not located nor operated by Russians
a casino that is operated by Russians living abroad, registered and taxed outside Russia

Which one of the above would you boycott?
Exactly. The primary issue here is that many people around the world are pissed with Russians just because of Putin, but this doesn't imply that all Russian citizens support his decision.

If that were the case, we wouldn't see some of them protesting on the roads against their own President knowing the risks involved. It's best to consider sanctions that screw Putin and cause minimal damage to the Russian public.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Jasad on March 05, 2022, 03:30:30 AM
I disagree with your ideas and asking for boycott of all Russian gambling platforms because is not any connected between war and gambling platform site, many people spent much money on Russian gambling platform site and they not care with war and never have Russian citizen looks agree with this war, I think have to make it different between gambling platform site and war, you looks as politician when mixing between war and gambling platform because all people try lucky with gambling and never car with politician situation around the world.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: rhomelmabini on March 05, 2022, 03:32:36 AM
Your list has sites that deserve to be boycotted due to its bad reputation. As for the Ukraine crisis with Russia, I do not think that imposing sanctions on Russia would be the most appropriate solution. Rather, other peaceful ways must be sought that satisfies both parties in order to resolve the conflict without bloodshed and the return of water to its courses. I hope to see this is not a war between two countries, but rather a mutual understanding and peace.
Most of the list of casinos in the OP aren't that good and popular so it's looks like it's being boycott in the first place. Some of these casinos really have bad reputation especially 1xbit. Always hoping they'll come up with peaceful resolution, most of the people around the world does.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Wexnident on March 05, 2022, 07:44:52 AM
I don't think there's a need to boycott the good ones? Maybe if you found a connection to them agreeing to the war or being pro for it, then yea sure let's all go for it, but if not then it's simply attacking the wrong side imo. Russian citizens/business owners are becoming victims of the current situation with these kinds of boycotts when they could've been prevented instead. I don't think we need to add more people to the list of victims. Probably help in trying to support Ukrainian citizens instead tbh.

Ofc, what I said doesn't include casinos that are inherently scammy or have a bad reputation. Even without the Ukraine Russia issue, those should've been boycotted long ago.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mak013 on March 05, 2022, 07:59:54 AM
And can someone answer the simple question: how the boycott of gambling platform will change anything? Will it stop the war? May be it will be huge material losses for russian business? And if these casinos will just close with all the money of all the users? Who will payback deposits to the other users?
It doesn`t matter for me their to gamble, i can easily gamble in other casinos but before doing smth it can be a good decision to think what the consequences will be later.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Theones on March 05, 2022, 08:08:20 AM
And can someone answer the simple question: how the boycott of gambling platform will change anything? Will it stop the war? May be it will be huge material losses for russian business? And if these casinos will just close with all the money of all the users? Who will payback deposits to the other users?
It doesn`t matter for me their to gamble, i can easily gamble in other casinos but before doing smth it can be a good decision to think what the consequences will be later.
I just saw the tweet of Mykhailo Fedorov ( Ukraine Minister of Inf Tech) he mentioned that there is $50M raise in crypto in a week to support Ukraine.
The Minister is sure that they will reach to $100M in this week, and I am sure they will rise from the ashes very soon. I am very touched to see how people of Ukraine are fighting in limited resources.  On the other Russian economy collapsed and yet they have a lot more to see in the days to come


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: decodx on March 05, 2022, 10:52:59 AM
The primary issue here is that many people around the world are pissed with Russians just because of Putin, but this doesn't imply that all Russian citizens support his decision.

If that were the case, we wouldn't see some of them protesting on the roads against their own President knowing the risks involved. It's best to consider sanctions that screw Putin and cause minimal damage to the Russian public.

You can decide whether or not to boycott a particular casino. It's an individual decision. As we can see, many companies around the world are withdrawing their services and products from the Russian market and expressing public protest against the aggression. I don't think it's directed against the Russian people specifically, but rather against Putin and his policies, which are morally revolting. I've never been a particularly political person, but  I have two feelings about this: first, we should learn from history and try not to repeat the same mistakes; second, we should support all these decisions that protect the lives and safety of all people on the planet.

Now, it is in your hands to decide on your strategy and to make yourself heard. Don't sit back and do nothing, but try to do something in any way you can.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Eureka_07 on March 05, 2022, 11:17:19 AM
<snip>
What I want to ask is, if this boycott is successful, will it affect the peace between Russia and Ukraine...!
<snip>
Probably it can somehow affect the peace between the two countries, not directly though. Think of it, if Russian online casino has been successfully boycotted by the gambling community, the tax/revenue that the government are getting from these casinos (Players/owners) will be lessen. Funds less, less armory, etc. That is if Russian government is getting something from Russian casino owners. Or if they are being taxed. If no, probably it won't have any effect on the peace between Ukraine and Russia.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: AicecreaME on March 05, 2022, 11:53:54 AM
<...>

I would just like to remind everyone that boycotting these sites would not necessarily make the Russia's economy crash, only the business of the owners will be at stake. And certainly not all of these business owners want war and conflict. I believe it would be the opposite because they know their livelihood would be damaged and affected once their country will be involved in a war, much more initiate it.

It would be futile for them to support war because the impact of it on their income genarator would be massive as well. Only the elites and those who have the motive to be mad and to benefit from it will want that. It would be better if we'll do an in-depth research to know if the owners are supporting or anti-war. Then we should decide from there which sites to boycott and which don't deserve it. I guess that would be much appropriate.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 05, 2022, 11:53:58 AM
SlotV, FrankCasino and Mrbit are owned by the same company and they have on of the best responsible gambling attitudes from the internet; these are my favourite casinos who are more than fair, welcoming and respectful for their users. What about no.!?

This post is more of a movement towards not supporting gambling websites hosted by Russian online gambling websites. Again, no one is forcing you to decide on such- if you feel like the websites you mentioned are relatively fair and easy to use then feel free to use it.

Again, this is considered a movement against Russia due to the war ongoing with Ukraine. No one will judge you in this forum but it is somehow pleasing to see such collective movement in not supporting anything handled by Russian oligarchs.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: macson on March 05, 2022, 03:54:34 PM
And can someone answer the simple question: how the boycott of gambling platform will change anything? Will it stop the war? May be it will be huge material losses for russian business? And if these casinos will just close with all the money of all the users? Who will payback deposits to the other users?
It doesn`t matter for me their to gamble, i can easily gamble in other casinos but before doing smth it can be a good decision to think what the consequences will be later.
let me answer from my point of view, of course the boycott will not work to make the war stop.  Since the beginning, Putin didn't care about his citizens, so that's why he should care about the business that his citizens are doing.  if putin is stubborn then removing Putin from the presidency is the best solution but it takes hard work and also great unity from the Russian people.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: MCVXYZ on March 05, 2022, 05:44:53 PM
And can someone answer the simple question: how the boycott of gambling platform will change anything? Will it stop the war? May be it will be huge material losses for russian business? And if these casinos will just close with all the money of all the users? Who will payback deposits to the other users?
It doesn`t matter for me their to gamble, i can easily gamble in other casinos but before doing smth it can be a good decision to think what the consequences will be later.
let me answer from my point of view, of course the boycott will not work to make the war stop.  Since the beginning, Putin didn't care about his citizens, so that's why he should care about the business that his citizens are doing.  if putin is stubborn then removing Putin from the presidency is the best solution but it takes hard work and also great unity from the Russian people.

It has no impact on economy but solidarity.
As I see no one can resign the president,which is the longest serving one,because I have never heard about expressed oppositions if we don't count navalni which is in prison now. but who knows, lets see what will happen in Russia.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: PX-Z on March 05, 2022, 06:23:08 PM
It's best to consider sanctions that screw Putin and cause minimal damage to the Russian public.
Unfortunately, only putin being sanctioned don't matter at all, it always be "Russia" it's government and unfortunately, its people. Normal citizens struggle the most because the war they didn't want, (obviously they're against it, affects their daily lives. But ofc ukranians struggle the most but its same story with different approach.

About the boycotts because of war, I'll be neutral for this, I see no reason to boycott these companies, unless they're a government-owned, they are also victims here, nobody wants war.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: blockman on March 05, 2022, 06:53:17 PM
I'm only familiar with two of them the gg.bet and pnxbet.com for esports. I didn't know that they're russian based. Anyway, as people boycott all of them or not, as long as I'm not even using it, can it be considered as boycotting or just ignoring them?
Probably ignoring would be the most accurate term, since you have been doing this since always.
That's fine I guess if you want to join the collective boycotting of those casinos. You don't have to actually do anything as that's what boycotting exactly means right?
But for the scam casinos that has been mentioned, they should really be ignored for so long as long as they have not resolved those scam accusations that was placed after them.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: og kush420 on March 05, 2022, 07:56:23 PM
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I would just like to remind everyone that boycotting these sites would not necessarily make the Russia's economy crash, only the business of the owners will be at stake. And certainly not all of these business owners want war and conflict. I believe it would be the opposite because they know their livelihood would be damaged and affected once their country will be involved in a war, much more initiate it.

It would be futile for them to support war because the impact of it on their income genarator would be massive as well. Only the elites and those who have the motive to be mad and to benefit from it will want that. It would be better if we'll do an in-depth research to know if the owners are supporting or anti-war. Then we should decide from there which sites to boycott and which don't deserve it. I guess that would be much appropriate.
You are right - but we cannot stay numb pretending nothing has happened. The stakeholders contributes to the economy of the nation this way or the way. The Russian economy has collapse by 98% which is worse than what happened to Russian in 1998 which it hit to 94% the government dissolved and the whole economy collapsed. The super power know should know that they do not have a license to attack any country when they feel like testing their new weapons and they are unhappy with weakest nation.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Haunebu on March 05, 2022, 11:06:09 PM
Now, it is in your hands to decide on your strategy and to make yourself heard. Don't sit back and do nothing, but try to do something in any way you can.
You are clearly stating the obvious. I am not thinking of any particular strategy and I certainly don't care about making myself heard. Different people -> Different opinions basically.

Boycotting Russian stuff could help to some extent, but I don't expect it to help end the war. Honestly, Putin probably planned around all of these obstacles for several years before launching his attack.

The only way this war will end is if Putin isn't the President anymore or if he dies or if Ukraine surrenders in my opinion.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Maestro75 on March 06, 2022, 05:37:32 AM

Now I know the reason why 1xbit is stubborn and refusing to stop its scams. It is acting stubborn like the country where it operates. I never knew it was a Russian betting site. Like stubborn Putin like 1xbit. No one should expect any change of attitude from it. This war is going to destroy Russia businesses. I know this suggested boycott is to force Putin's hand so he can make a turn but those who own the businesses will suffer more losses than Putin. I pity everyone who has businesses in Russia.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mdzahed134 on March 06, 2022, 02:28:37 PM
Russian gambling site list is so long. Although i am not familiar with those of sites without 1xbet. I don’t know by boycotting these gambling sites, who will be benefited or the war will be end? Because if somehow stop those sites many users will be affected not only Russian users. And those sites are developed by some of peoples money not government (Putin) own money.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mindrust on March 06, 2022, 03:21:03 PM

Now I know the reason why 1xbit is stubborn and refusing to stop its scams. It is acting stubborn like the country where it operates. I never knew it was a Russian betting site. Like stubborn Putin like 1xbit. No one should expect any change of attitude from it. This war is going to destroy Russia businesses. I know this suggested boycott is to force Putin's hand so he can make a turn but those who own the businesses will suffer more losses than Putin. I pity everyone who has businesses in Russia.

I think we should boycott these business not based not their nationality but on their bad business practices. So, while I support to boycott 1xbit for being a shitty casino, I can't support the idea just because they are Russians. Did they do the invading? No. Why would I care about their nationality then? If they provide an honest service, they shouldn't have anything to fear.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Erdogan on March 06, 2022, 03:49:11 PM
Could the OP explain what is the purpose of the boycott?

Because if the goal is to cut off the flow of money to finance the war in Ukraine (of course I support it), in my opinion boycotting a company registered in Cyprus does not make sense, because their money does not go to Russia.

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"1X Corp N.V. (also known as" 1xBet ") is an online gambling company licensed by the Curaçao eGaming License. It was founded in 2007 and registered in Cyprus."

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1xBet


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Maestro75 on March 06, 2022, 04:05:47 PM
I think we should boycott these business not based not their nationality but on their bad business practices. So, while I support to boycott 1xbit for being a shitty casino, I can't support the idea just because they are Russians. Did they do the invading? No. Why would I care about their nationality then? If they provide an honest service, they shouldn't have anything to fear.

Your thought is correct on the 1xbit thing. It is a shitty and scam casino and those who are in their signature campaigns here are not to be trusted also. They know 1xbit scams people and yet they are promoting them. That is bad. On the boycott of businesses in Russia, I do not support it. Like you said, they did not do the invading of Ukraine and so why should their business suffer. It is good for people to be angry with Russia but to call for the boycott of private businesses is not a good idea. They can boycott government owned businesses if they want but not private businesses.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Erdogan on March 06, 2022, 04:13:05 PM
I think we should boycott these business not based not their nationality but on their bad business practices. So, while I support to boycott 1xbit for being a shitty casino, I can't support the idea just because they are Russians. Did they do the invading? No. Why would I care about their nationality then? If they provide an honest service, they shouldn't have anything to fear.

Your thought is correct on the 1xbit thing. It is a shitty and scam casino and those who are in their signature campaigns here are not to be trusted also. They know 1xbit scams people and yet they are promoting them. That is bad. On the boycott of businesses in Russia, I do not support it. Like you said, they did not do the invading of Ukraine and so why should their business suffer. It is good for people to be angry with Russia but to call for the boycott of private businesses is not a good idea. They can boycott government owned businesses if they want but not private businesses.

The goal of the boycott of Russian business, sports events and actually all cultural events is for the Russian society to push pressure on the government and its decisions to stop the war. It may seem not fair, but it is still one of the most peaceful options in this situation.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Tumanggor on March 06, 2022, 04:39:54 PM
On the boycott of businesses in Russia, I do not support it. Like you said, they did not do the invading of Ukraine and so why should their business suffer. It is good for people to be angry with Russia but to call for the boycott of private businesses is not a good idea. They can boycott government owned businesses if they want but not private businesses.
Yes, boycotting the business run by the Russian government is a good thing but did you know that the big business run by the Russian government is the gas and oil business that Europe needs?

Boycotting it will actually make Europe difficult, Russia doesn't feel there is anything blocking them, if they attack Ukraine, they will not ignore the sanctions imposed by foreign countries

If we want to boycott, especially all gambling sites originating from Russia, think again about what impact it will have, whether it is effective or not!


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Erdogan on March 06, 2022, 05:01:04 PM
On the boycott of businesses in Russia, I do not support it. Like you said, they did not do the invading of Ukraine and so why should their business suffer. It is good for people to be angry with Russia but to call for the boycott of private businesses is not a good idea. They can boycott government owned businesses if they want but not private businesses.
Yes, boycotting the business run by the Russian government is a good thing but did you know that the big business run by the Russian government is the gas and oil business that Europe needs?

Boycotting it will actually make Europe difficult, Russia doesn't feel there is anything blocking them, if they attack Ukraine, they will not ignore the sanctions imposed by foreign countries

If we want to boycott, especially all gambling sites originating from Russia, think again about what impact it will have, whether it is effective or not!

As I said, the boycott of business or cultural events is to have an impact on Russian society. When the Russian society feels that they are in very uncomfortable situation and even cause financial losses due to the government actions, society will put pressure on the government to stop that actions. It makes sense to me, and I support it. Russian gambling websites are part of the business that sponsors this war, so cutting off the funding also makes sense to me.

We are talking about social action that we have influence on. I am not talking about international agreements for the supply of oil and gas, because unfortunately I have no influence on that.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: fiulpro on March 06, 2022, 05:04:53 PM
People are already not using 1Xbit even despite everything the war and such they don't have a good reputation on the board and they are paying users for their campaigns despite them having unresolved issues and therefore I do think all the sites connected with 1xbit also does come in the same list as well.

I am from Ukraine as well, my whole life have been destroyed and at the same time there is nothing left to hold onto at the moment, but still I feel that these boycott is causing more harm to the common people of Russia than anything but then again it's essential to cut off all the taxes and funds passing into the government since at the end of the day they would use the fundings for the war and nothing else.

Private businesses still have to pay taxes to the government as well therefore I do think it's not really a small issue, it has to be considered as well.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: gantez on March 06, 2022, 05:15:29 PM
This war is going to destroy Russia businesses. I know this suggested boycott is to force Putin's hand so he can make a turn but those who own the businesses will suffer more losses than Putin. I pity everyone who has businesses in Russia.

Like you have rightly said it that the sanctions are to stop Putin but Putin is the Russian president and he representing them. They can take to the streets to protest against the hardship the war is causing them, they can take protest to their government house and that can show they not supporting their government decision invasion. The situation now is getting hard for Russian citizens because of the sanctions but Putin continue attacking.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: BitcoinAccepted on March 06, 2022, 05:28:29 PM
This war is going to destroy Russia businesses. I know this suggested boycott is to force Putin's hand so he can make a turn but those who own the businesses will suffer more losses than Putin. I pity everyone who has businesses in Russia.

Like you have rightly said it that the sanctions are to stop Putin but Putin is the Russian president and he representing them. They can take to the streets to protest against the hardship the war is causing them, they can take protest to their government house and that can show they not supporting their government decision invasion. The situation now is getting hard for Russian citizens because of the sanctions but Putin continue attacking.

Of course, we can all express our support and take appropriate action by boycotting, including gambling sites. The only question is what do we do with that. I don't get the impression that Putin is the least bit impressed by all these sanctions. He prefers to fight it with even more aggression and threats with nuclear weapons. I hope that the war will soon come to an end and that boycott practices will no longer be necessary.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on March 06, 2022, 06:00:09 PM
I am from Ukraine as well, my whole life have been destroyed and at the same time there is nothing left to hold onto at the moment, but still I feel that these boycott is causing more harm to the common people of Russia than anything but then again it's essential to cut off all the taxes and funds passing into the government since at the end of the day they would use the fundings for the war and nothing else.

Private businesses still have to pay taxes to the government as well therefore I do think it's not really a small issue, it has to be considered as well.

I feel very sorry for you and everyone in Ukraine.
The purpose of the boycott of Russian companies is precisely to cut off the financing of this war. It is possible that Putin is secured for weeks or even months, but any action that prevents him from continuing this war is good. It is not known what this mad man is capable to do more, so if even in a small point this boycott can make it difficult for him to continue that war, then we should do it.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: uneng on March 06, 2022, 07:14:42 PM
People are already not using 1Xbit even despite everything the war and such they don't have a good reputation on the board and they are paying users for their campaigns despite them having unresolved issues and therefore I do think all the sites connected with 1xbit also does come in the same list as well.

I am from Ukraine as well, my whole life have been destroyed and at the same time there is nothing left to hold onto at the moment, but still I feel that these boycott is causing more harm to the common people of Russia than anything but then again it's essential to cut off all the taxes and funds passing into the government since at the end of the day they would use the fundings for the war and nothing else.

Private businesses still have to pay taxes to the government as well therefore I do think it's not really a small issue, it has to be considered as well.
That is why it's important russian citizens protest against their government, as many are already doing and being arrested right now. It's actually the most effective civilian action to be executed, because the country is composed by its people, and once the people show its dissatisfaction, the government starts having issues to manage the country internally, what considerably weaks its organization and military power on the war. To incentivize russian citizens to go against the government can bring much better results than boycotting.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on March 06, 2022, 07:32:47 PM
To incentivize russian citizens to go against the government can bring much better results than boycotting.

But, it is precisely the boycott of Russian activity in sport, business and culture that aims to make the citizens force the government to stop the war. When Russian citizens feel that Russia as a country is not accepted in the world, they will pressure the government to stop military activities. Protests in Russia are very quickly suppressed and people arrested. It is the whole society that must put pressure on the government, and it is boycotts and international sanctions that are supposed to do that.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: bitbollo on March 06, 2022, 07:35:32 PM
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Private businesses still have to pay taxes to the government as well therefore I do think it's not really a small issue, it has to be considered as well.

This is an interesting point of view.
if you don't have a second option how you can stop your business?
Everyone is paying taxes to the government where they live, but if you want a legal job ... there is no other solution other this... common people have not any other solution...


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: coolcoinz on March 06, 2022, 07:54:56 PM
This war is going to destroy Russia businesses. I know this suggested boycott is to force Putin's hand so he can make a turn but those who own the businesses will suffer more losses than Putin. I pity everyone who has businesses in Russia.

Like you have rightly said it that the sanctions are to stop Putin but Putin is the Russian president and he representing them. They can take to the streets to protest against the hardship the war is causing them, they can take protest to their government house and that can show they not supporting their government decision invasion. The situation now is getting hard for Russian citizens because of the sanctions but Putin continue attacking.

Because he's a nutjob and he doesn't care. Most Russians don't care either because they don't watch the news and don't use the Internet. They work all day in shitty jobs earning minimum wages of less than $200 a month. It's like a third world out there. People will feel sanctions but they will still blame the West, not Putin.
Businesses that feel pressure should move out of Russia and register somewhere else, but in the current situation many countries won't even allow them to do it.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Cryptock on March 06, 2022, 08:38:24 PM
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Private businesses still have to pay taxes to the government as well therefore I do think it's not really a small issue, it has to be considered as well.

This is an interesting point of view.
if you don't have a second option how you can stop your business?
Everyone is paying taxes to the government where they live, but if you want a legal job ... there is no other solution other this... common people have not any other solution...


I don't think the point is that the Russians are boycotting and not paying taxes. This is, in my opinion, unlikely, or even impossible. The idea is for people in other countries to boycott Russian products as in this case Russian casinos and thus not provide tax money for the Russian government.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Accardo on March 06, 2022, 09:20:03 PM
Russian gambling site list is so long. Although i am not familiar with those of sites without 1xbet. I don’t know by boycotting these gambling sites, who will be benefited or the war will be end? Because if somehow stop those sites many users will be affected not only Russian users. And those sites are developed by some of peoples money not government (Putin) own money.

And it's not the end of Russian owned gambling sites. They have so many of them and boycotting them all won't stop them from functioning. It's just like a way of staying with the Ukrainian regarding the oppression that Putin have sent on their country. Not patronizing Russian businesses is like saying that the whole Russia is against Ukraine while they are many of them that don't support the action of their President. Like you said, It won't put an end to the war. And I have been saying time without number that the best thing to do to support Ukraine is putting an end to this war so that students, business owners, kids and adults can come back home and feel relaxed. It's just the beginning of a new year and people are running away from their country for safety. It's an ill treatment and they don't deserve it for anything. Whether for greed or politics the homeless citizens are suffering so much the restriction won't help them in any way.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: robelneo on March 06, 2022, 09:46:59 PM
This war is going to destroy Russia businesses. I know this suggested boycott is to force Putin's hand so he can make a turn but those who own the businesses will suffer more losses than Putin. I pity everyone who has businesses in Russia.

Like you have rightly said it that the sanctions are to stop Putin but Putin is the Russian president and he representing them. They can take to the streets to protest against the hardship the war is causing them, they can take protest to their government house and that can show they not supporting their government decision invasion. The situation now is getting hard for Russian citizens because of the sanctions but Putin continue attacking.

Because he's a nutjob and he doesn't care. Most Russians don't care either because they don't watch the news and don't use the Internet. They work all day in shitty jobs earning minimum wages of less than $200 a month. It's like a third world out there. People will feel sanctions but they will still blame the West, not Putin.
Businesses that feel pressure should move out of Russia and register somewhere else, but in the current situation many countries won't even allow them to do it.

They are at war why they will not watch the news it's common sense to check out what's happening around you if you are being deprived of something, we should not undermine the Russians they are not this powerful and their citizen resourceful if they are not aware of what's happening around them even a third world country is very active internet users, I'm sure they already know why they are sanctioned.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: sovie on March 06, 2022, 09:52:43 PM
This war is going to destroy Russia businesses. I know this suggested boycott is to force Putin's hand so he can make a turn but those who own the businesses will suffer more losses than Putin. I pity everyone who has businesses in Russia.

Like you have rightly said it that the sanctions are to stop Putin but Putin is the Russian president and he representing them. They can take to the streets to protest against the hardship the war is causing them, they can take protest to their government house and that can show they not supporting their government decision invasion. The situation now is getting hard for Russian citizens because of the sanctions but Putin continue attacking.

Because he's a nutjob and he doesn't care. Most Russians don't care either because they don't watch the news and don't use the Internet. They work all day in shitty jobs earning minimum wages of less than $200 a month. It's like a third world out there. People will feel sanctions but they will still blame the West, not Putin.
Businesses that feel pressure should move out of Russia and register somewhere else, but in the current situation many countries won't even allow them to do it.

They are at war why they will not watch the news it's common sense to check out what's happening around you if you are being deprived of something, we should not undermine the Russians they are not this powerful and their citizen resourceful if they are not aware of what's happening around them even a third world country is very active internet users, I'm sure they already know why they are sanctioned.

I am sure that many Russians are against this war, unfortunately they live in a totalitarian country. Economic sanctions will certainly have a very negative impact on the lives of Russian citizens. Certainly no one wants this conflict to escalate militarily, so in such a situation, it is sanctions and boycotts that are the most peaceful solution. So I totally support the boycott of Russian casinos.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: uneng on March 06, 2022, 11:03:59 PM
To incentivize russian citizens to go against the government can bring much better results than boycotting.

But, it is precisely the boycott of Russian activity in sport, business and culture that aims to make the citizens force the government to stop the war. When Russian citizens feel that Russia as a country is not accepted in the world, they will pressure the government to stop military activities. Protests in Russia are very quickly suppressed and people arrested. It is the whole society that must put pressure on the government, and it is boycotts and international sanctions that are supposed to do that.
It's a possibility russian citizens will pressure the government once they see they are being put aside by the world, but there is also the possibility the local government turns the citizens' minds against the world for the economical and social difficulties they are facing. So they unite themselves as nation, by the hate, frustration and resentment they feel regards countries which imposed sanctions on them.

A common russian businessman can simply conclude even though he doesn't support the government or the invasion, he is still being prejudiced by boycotts, so why should he be sympathetic to the end of the conflict since nobody has empathy for his own daily life and survival?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: tippytoes on March 06, 2022, 11:12:47 PM
To incentivize russian citizens to go against the government can bring much better results than boycotting.

But, it is precisely the boycott of Russian activity in sport, business and culture that aims to make the citizens force the government to stop the war. When Russian citizens feel that Russia as a country is not accepted in the world, they will pressure the government to stop military activities. Protests in Russia are very quickly suppressed and people arrested. It is the whole society that must put pressure on the government, and it is boycotts and international sanctions that are supposed to do that.
It's a possibility russian citizens will pressure the government once they see they are being put aside by the world, but there is also the possibility the local government turns the citizens' minds against the world for the economical and social difficulties they are facing. So they unite themselves as nation, by the hate, frustration and resentment they feel regards countries which imposed sanctions on them.

A common russian businessman can simply conclude even though he doesn't support the government or the invasion, he is still being prejudiced by boycotts, so why should he be sympathetic to the end of the conflict since nobody has empathy for his own daily life and survival?

At the end of the day, they are worried about their survival. I am certain, a lot of these Russian business will declare bankruptcy owed to this war. But if you are a regular gambler, it depends on what's your take about the situation. Like for example, if you are a patron of one of these casinos even before this war happens, do you think you will change your mind because of the situation, even if they are not doing anything to you? So for me, weigh your options and be fair as much as possible. Most of these Russians don't want to be in this hot seat right now. They are also humans like us, they need to survive.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on March 06, 2022, 11:20:39 PM
To incentivize russian citizens to go against the government can bring much better results than boycotting.

But, it is precisely the boycott of Russian activity in sport, business and culture that aims to make the citizens force the government to stop the war. When Russian citizens feel that Russia as a country is not accepted in the world, they will pressure the government to stop military activities. Protests in Russia are very quickly suppressed and people arrested. It is the whole society that must put pressure on the government, and it is boycotts and international sanctions that are supposed to do that.
It's a possibility russian citizens will pressure the government once they see they are being put aside by the world, but there is also the possibility the local government turns the citizens' minds against the world for the economical and social difficulties they are facing. So they unite themselves as nation, by the hate, frustration and resentment they feel regards countries which imposed sanctions on them.

Certainly, Russian television, press and all media will claim that the country bad situation is the result of sanctions made by Western countries. Without explaining where they really came from. My guess is that in Russia agitation is at an extremely high level, so it will definitely take some time for ordinary citizens to realize what the truth is. Unfortunately, it seems to be the only way to put pressure on Putin without using the military option.

A common russian businessman can simply conclude even though he doesn't support the government or the invasion, he is still being prejudiced by boycotts, so why should he be sympathetic to the end of the conflict since nobody has empathy for his own daily life and survival?

It is obvious that nobody who lives in Russia will like it, but that is the goal not to like it and to want to change it.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: kotajikikox on March 07, 2022, 05:54:08 AM
Russian gambling site list is so long. Although i am not familiar with those of sites without 1xbet. I don’t know by boycotting these gambling sites, who will be benefited or the war will be end? Because if somehow stop those sites many users will be affected not only Russian users. And those sites are developed by some of peoples money not government (Putin) own money.
it is not about players of the site but the thing this can give to the Russian government and that will bring help to them funding their War against Ukraine so let us do the things that may Hinder them from earning more funds.
I am not against everyone not wanting this to happen but of course we can make this all for the Humanity .
the war is not helping everyone instead this will make the world bad than what we are having now.
so lets partake in this run and surely we will all benefits from this.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: virasog on March 07, 2022, 06:17:55 AM
Russian gambling site list is so long. Although i am not familiar with those of sites without 1xbet. I don’t know by boycotting these gambling sites, who will be benefited or the war will be end? Because if somehow stop those sites many users will be affected not only Russian users. And those sites are developed by some of peoples money not government (Putin) own money.
it is not about players of the site but the thing this can give to the Russian government and that will bring help to them funding their War against Ukraine so let us do the things that may Hinder them from earning more funds.
I am not against everyone not wanting this to happen but of course we can make this all for the Humanity .
the war is not helping everyone instead this will make the world bad than what we are having now.
so lets partake in this run and surely we will all benefits from this.

The earning from the gambling sites does not go to the russian government. The gambling casino may give certain percentage of the profit as a tax to government and i don't think this tax is too much that you can initiate or run a war with that fund. Thinking in depth, i think that there will be no change on the overall condition of the war even if we ban the gambling sites. We need to think on more practical ways through which we can contribute to stop this war.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 07, 2022, 08:36:50 AM
Russian gambling site list is so long. Although i am not familiar with those of sites without 1xbet. I don’t know by boycotting these gambling sites, who will be benefited or the war will be end? Because if somehow stop those sites many users will be affected not only Russian users. And those sites are developed by some of peoples money not government (Putin) own money.
it is not about players of the site but the thing this can give to the Russian government and that will bring help to them funding their War against Ukraine so let us do the things that may Hinder them from earning more funds.
I am not against everyone not wanting this to happen but of course we can make this all for the Humanity .
the war is not helping everyone instead this will make the world bad than what we are having now.
so lets partake in this run and surely we will all benefits from this.
The earning from the gambling sites does not go to the russian government. The gambling casino may give certain percentage of the profit as a tax to government and i don't think this tax is too much that you can initiate or run a war with that fund. Thinking in depth, i think that there will be no change on the overall condition of the war even if we ban the gambling sites. We need to think on more practical ways through which we can contribute to stop this war.
Yes, maybe they still pay taxes to the Russian government. But if the site doesn't pay taxes to the Russian government, the Russian government will pressure them and ask them to pay taxes. In this case, the government can continue to pressure its people to do what the government asks but one day, if the people are bored, they will fight back because the people can't stand being treated like that. The boycott of the Russian government may have happened because of yesterday's war and it may happen again. Hopefully, this ends well and the people don't suffer anymore.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: saxydev on March 07, 2022, 09:33:56 AM
We have a say in my country: If a ship goes into the river, will you blindy follow it? I will boycott the french casinos because of what's happening in Mali and Sudan, all the companies from USA because of Middle East etc!? Wake up! I want russian services, I want russian members to be arround us.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: aleandromagno on March 07, 2022, 09:42:09 AM
We have a say in my country: If a ship goes into the river, will you blindy follow it? I will boycott the french casinos because of what's happening in Mali and Sudan, all the companies from USA because of Middle East etc!? Wake up! I want russian services, I want russian members to be arround us.

Everyone has the right to decide for himself. If you want to boycott other countries, go ahead, you are the sailor and the ship. You can also create a thread in which you will persuade to boycott other countries. In this thread, we are talking about boycotting Russian casinos due to the unjustified attack on Ukraine and the killing of civilians by the Russian rockets.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: TwitchySeal on March 07, 2022, 10:05:48 AM
Today I came across a thread in which many users expressed their support for boycotting Russian gambling platforms (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387589.100).

I decided to create a list of such sites, which will be updated regularly.

If you know that some casino, game provider, or affiliate site is run by Russians, write the name in the comments.

If you want to support the boycott avoid these brands:

Online Casinos:

  • 1xBet
  • 1xBit
  • 1xSlots
  • TrueFlip
  • Emojino
  • Lucky Nova
  • GG.bet
  • TTR Casino
  • Surf Casino
  • LTC Casino
  • FastPay Casino
  • InstantPay Casino
  • Wild Blaster
  • Casino4U
  • SlotV
  • Frank Casino
  • Mr.Bit Casino
  • Bitstarz
  • Play Fortuna
  • Booi
  • DLX
  • Vavada
  • Joycasino
  • Casino-X
  • 1xStavka.ru
  • 22Bet.com
  • bet-1xsport.com
  • betwinner.com
  • casino-z.com
  • lordbetting.com
  • melbet.com
  • playwetten.com
  • pnxbet.com
  • sapphirebet.com
  • bob casino
  • Play Amo
  • Betchan
  • Casinochan
  • Spinia
  • Betamo
  • Cookie Casino
  • Woo Casino
  • Avalon78
  • Mason Slots

Game Providers:

  • Belatra Games
  • TrueLab

I assume all of these sites are illegal in Russia since online gambling is illegal.  Unless they're legitimate, tax paying Russian businesses that only offer their services to players outside of Russia (which I don't think they are), you're actually doing Putin a favor by boycotting them.  (I'm not saying you should play at them to spite Putin though, several of them are outright scam casinos or very shady at best...)


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: aleandromagno on March 07, 2022, 11:16:38 AM
I assume all of these sites are illegal in Russia since online gambling is illegal.  Unless they're legitimate, tax paying Russian businesses that only offer their services to players outside of Russia (which I don't think they are), you're actually doing Putin a favor by boycotting them.  (I'm not saying you should play at them to spite Putin though, several of them are outright scam casinos or very shady at best...)

From what I understand, the goal of this boycott is to ensure that the tax money does not go into the budget allocated to supporting the war.
In fact, gambling is officially illegal in Russia, but as I know companies can operate there if they have government license. Also it is possible that there may be operate companies that offer such services outside.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: CDC AP on March 07, 2022, 02:05:42 PM
Russia is banned by Fifa and Uefa which I'm really upset with. Why the fuck they have to do dirty politics with sports?
Where was Fifa when other dominating countries had dominated some countries, I'm talking about few years back.
I really don't support this. I agree that what Russia is doing is bad, I strongly oppose any war around. But that doesn’t mean we have to ignore their casinos.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: aleandromagno on March 07, 2022, 03:41:34 PM
Russia is banned by Fifa and Uefa which I'm really upset with. Why the fuck they have to do dirty politics with sports?
Where was Fifa when other dominating countries had dominated some countries, I'm talking about few years back.
I really don't support this. I agree that what Russia is doing is bad, I strongly oppose any war around. But that doesn’t mean we have to ignore their casinos.

Do you really think some national team will play with Russia? Maybe even in Moscow - a capital that has attacked a peaceful country and killing civilians?
You may not know it, but even before FIFA announced a boycott of Russia, the football national teams of the countries that were supposed to play with Russia (Sweden, Poland, Czech Republic) had announced themselves that they would not play against Russia. No one would want to play, so for FIFA it was just a formality.

In my opinion, as an international community, we should put pressure on Russia in every possible (peaceful) way, so boycotting their casinos is, absolutely right!


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Dewi Aries on March 07, 2022, 04:12:00 PM

In my opinion, as an international community, we should put pressure on Russia in every possible (peaceful) way, so boycotting their casinos is, absolutely right!

Have you ever thought that Russian citizens agreed to this attack? almost all of them refused except the president and parliament
I'm not against this boycott but if you think rationally you should know which one is the most appropriate.
If this way can stop the war I will support but if it doesn't have an impact I think this is a misdirection.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: TwitchySeal on March 07, 2022, 04:45:16 PM
I assume all of these sites are illegal in Russia since online gambling is illegal.  Unless they're legitimate, tax paying Russian businesses that only offer their services to players outside of Russia (which I don't think they are), you're actually doing Putin a favor by boycotting them.  (I'm not saying you should play at them to spite Putin though, several of them are outright scam casinos or very shady at best...)

From what I understand, the goal of this boycott is to ensure that the tax money does not go into the budget allocated to supporting the war.
In fact, gambling is officially illegal in Russia, but as I know companies can operate there if they have government license. Also it is possible that there may be operate companies that offer such services outside.

If they were operating lawfully within Russia there would be some sort of record of their Russian business, right?  These sites are all seem to be ghosts other than their curacao license.  I could be wrong, but it seems like these are just rogue casinos owned by Russians, not legitimate Russian businesses.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 07, 2022, 05:01:48 PM
Russia is banned by Fifa and Uefa which I'm really upset with. Why the fuck they have to do dirty politics with sports?
Where was Fifa when other dominating countries had dominated some countries, I'm talking about few years back.
I really don't support this. I agree that what Russia is doing is bad, I strongly oppose any war around. But that doesn’t mean we have to ignore their casinos.

Do you really think some national team will play with Russia? Maybe even in Moscow - a capital that has attacked a peaceful country and killing civilians?
You may not know it, but even before FIFA announced a boycott of Russia, the football national teams of the countries that were supposed to play with Russia (Sweden, Poland, Czech Republic) had announced themselves that they would not play against Russia. No one would want to play, so for FIFA it was just a formality.

In my opinion, as an international community, we should put pressure on Russia in every possible (peaceful) way, so boycotting their casinos is, absolutely right!

Not just in sports but in every aspect of sports including motorsports (e.g. F1 decided to withdraw their grand prix in Russia this year, etc.). With this move, Russia would have to suffer dire consequences that would very much impact their economic standpoint. With this kind of boycott to Russian gambling platforms, though it may not fully affect Putin directly, it can somehow start a movement indirectly which will give notice to all the gamblers about the current situation.

Again, most large businesses have started pulling out their investments and plans on Russia this year due to the war. The citizens of their country, unfortunately, have to suffer such consequences due to their barbaric leader.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: TwitchySeal on March 07, 2022, 05:02:28 PM

In my opinion, as an international community, we should put pressure on Russia in every possible (peaceful) way, so boycotting their casinos is, absolutely right!

Have you ever thought that Russian citizens agreed to this attack? almost all of them refused except the president and parliament
I'm not against this boycott but if you think rationally you should know which one is the most appropriate.
If this way can stop the war I will support but if it doesn't have an impact I think this is a misdirection.

Nobody thinks Russian citizens are to blame.  They're being punished because of Putins actions.

International Sports has always been a big deal for Russia.  It provides national unity and a sense of pride.  That's being taken away, because their leader decided to destroy another country.  Maybe the Russians will find a way to get rid of Putin and find someone else.  


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Cryptock on March 07, 2022, 07:35:11 PM
Have you ever thought that Russian citizens agreed to this attack? almost all of them refused except the president and parliament
I'm not against this boycott but if you think rationally you should know which one is the most appropriate.
If this way can stop the war I will support but if it doesn't have an impact I think this is a misdirection.

Unfortunately, we have no direct influence on the Russian government. The purpose of the boycott is to put pressure on the Russian community, which should either change the government's decision or change government completely. After all, in theory, Russia is a democratic country, so if citizens does not want this war, they should do something about it.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Dewi Aries on March 08, 2022, 05:06:04 AM

Nobody thinks Russian citizens are to blame.  They're being punished because of Putins actions.

That's why I said boycotting casinos from Russia could be wrong , the right boycott is one that is directly related to the state
e.g. international trade and other business sanctions unfortunately this is also not effective because the allies are ready to support Russia

Unfortunately, we have no direct influence on the Russian government. The purpose of the boycott is to put pressure on the Russian community, which should either change the government's decision or change government completely. After all, in theory, Russia is a democratic country, so if citizens does not want this war, they should do something about it.

As citizens of other countries we can just say that but if you are a russian citizen there must be fear and be considered a traitor
After all, before the invasion was launched thousands of Russians held demonstrations refuse war unfortunately there is no response from the government.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: btc78 on March 08, 2022, 05:15:04 AM
there are only 3 or 4 on the list that i have heard or read over the forum and even outside , so i think it is easy for me to boycott them mate.

But will put the list on my bookmark so i will keep  eyeing them whenever i wanna gamble though i am not playing in new casinos or those casino that was not been advertised here in forum for at least a year or 2.

Thanks for the list mate, this  really helps a lot for us .


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: peter0425 on March 08, 2022, 06:13:28 AM
Joining the Boycott team for this matter..


I have been into gambling online for years so my funds will surely not going to any of these site and will rather play in non licensed gambling site that playing on those.

So let us all participate in this  initiative and will be giving chance to partake in our way against the War or invasion of Russia to Ukraine .


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: michellee on March 08, 2022, 07:35:17 AM
Have you ever thought that Russian citizens agreed to this attack? almost all of them refused except the president and parliament
I'm not against this boycott but if you think rationally you should know which one is the most appropriate.
If this way can stop the war I will support but if it doesn't have an impact I think this is a misdirection.

Unfortunately, we have no direct influence on the Russian government. The purpose of the boycott is to put pressure on the Russian community, which should either change the government's decision or change government completely. After all, in theory, Russia is a democratic country, so if citizens does not want this war, they should do something about it.
But sadly, how can citizens do anything if they are constantly being watched by the Russian government? Maybe only if all Russian citizens demonstrate to the government will they be able to see that their citizens do not agree with the actions of their government. Apart from that, they couldn't do anything.

The government is in power and they will continue to pressure their people to support what they are doing, even if the people don't agree. Maybe Russia will continue like this while continuing to put pressure on its people because I don't think Putin has much of a solution to this war problem.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: goldkingcoiner on March 08, 2022, 08:38:04 AM
Not sure exactly what this is supposed to be. Aimless boycotting as a sign of solidarity is just as stupid as sanctioning Russians living in foreign countries as a show of solidarity. Do you really believe boycotting these casinos will in any way hurt Russia? Provide some proof for that theory. I see absolutely no point and all you are doing is jumping on the aimless boycott hype-bandwagen. That being said, there is already another topic in this very same subforum which already deals with the question of whether or not we should boycott Russian gambling platforms.

I suggest not making another of the same threads. ::)


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: rodskee on March 08, 2022, 09:44:31 AM
We have a say in my country: If a ship goes into the river, will you blindy follow it? I will boycott the french casinos because of what's happening in Mali and Sudan, all the companies from USA because of Middle East etc!? Wake up! I want russian services, I want russian members to be arround us.
OP has just sharing the list of casino that owned by Russians but this does not mean we are obligated to follow or justify His deeds, i believe that we are all mature enough to face what we think is valid and good and if this added to boycotting Russian businesses then do it, but believe that it is our way and it is our decisions.
I have Russian friends and i know how they also hate this war its just that they have nothing to do but to Wish and Hope this will end .


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: BitcoinAccepted on March 08, 2022, 10:17:40 AM
What could be the bad impact of this to Russia if all the services and foreign investors, projects, suppliers, services, etc. would limit their service to Russia? I think the worst thing can happen is Putin will try to use nuke along with his defeat I think the man is insane. I see that some of his interviews were in green screen, is he hiding in his basement?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Chato1977 on March 08, 2022, 10:30:53 AM
you should give this thread to the first one who create the same issue and just let Him edit the OP and put the list you given here.

will this really affect Russia? but of course this is a  good initiative to at least we can contribute in our own little way.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: AicecreaME on March 08, 2022, 11:09:24 AM
If you want to support the boycott avoid these brands:

Online Casinos:

  • 1xBet
  • 1xBit

It is necessary to avoid such casinos/bookmakers even without boycott. These are the most famous garbage platforms that have been deceiving their users for years. I'm surprised they haven't been prosecuted yet, but I'm even more surprised that so many YouTube bloggers, especially in the MMA space, are still promoting these scam platforms.

Agree. I have read so many posts regarding these sites because of the things they do such as frauds and most the time, they get off the hook. I don't know why, but it seems that they always do given the numerous times they have been reported and posted. I just hope that people would be more knowledgeable about these sites to avoid being scammed their hard earned money. After all, no one deserves being stolen their funds away from them. These kind of sites should be stopped in operating to avoid further victims and damages. Just imagine the stress and anxiety of the people they have victimized. The worry, time, and effort of those people were all put to waste. Do not patronize these kind of sites because they take advantage of their users. They shouldn't be worthy to exist in the first place.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Daltonik on March 08, 2022, 07:33:51 PM
Why would the author of the thread not create a vote where everyone could express their opinion and cast their vote for or against, it was interesting to see how the votes would be distributed and it would be visible, so to speak, clearly the general opinion on this issue, and in general there is an outright scam among Russian gambling platforms, including.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: cabron on March 08, 2022, 10:41:23 PM

What could be the bad impact of this to Russia if all the services and foreign investors, projects, suppliers, services, etc. would limit their service to Russia? I think the worst thing can happen is Putin will try to use nuke along with his defeat I think the man is insane. I see that some of his interviews were in green screen, is he hiding in his basement?

That's a long list. Never thought there are so many Russian casinos. I wouldn't really think if this will affect Putin or its government but just the individual who owns the casino. But if we all have to do it to squeeze the government of Russia, maybe a list of crypto exchanges too would be your option. Just to suggest after all it would be hypocrisy if just gambling sites.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: dunfida on March 08, 2022, 10:44:08 PM

What could be the bad impact of this to Russia if all the services and foreign investors, projects, suppliers, services, etc. would limit their service to Russia? I think the worst thing can happen is Putin will try to use nuke along with his defeat I think the man is insane. I see that some of his interviews were in green screen, is he hiding in his basement?

That's a long list. Never thought there are so many Russian casinos. I wouldn't really think if this will affect Putin or its government but just the individual who owns the casino. But if we all have to do it to squeeze the government of Russia, maybe a list of crypto exchanges too would be your option. Just to suggest after all it would be hypocrisy if just gambling sites.
Coinbase is already blocking it out.
https://fortune.com/2022/03/07/coinbase-blocks-25000-crypto-wallets-russians-sanctions/

Any sector or industry would really be affected it might not be directly hurting the government but it would really give out pressure and big effect into its owners itself.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: ultrloa on March 08, 2022, 11:33:02 PM

What could be the bad impact of this to Russia if all the services and foreign investors, projects, suppliers, services, etc. would limit their service to Russia? I think the worst thing can happen is Putin will try to use nuke along with his defeat I think the man is insane. I see that some of his interviews were in green screen, is he hiding in his basement?

That's a long list. Never thought there are so many Russian casinos. I wouldn't really think if this will affect Putin or its government but just the individual who owns the casino. But if we all have to do it to squeeze the government of Russia, maybe a list of crypto exchanges too would be your option. Just to suggest after all it would be hypocrisy if just gambling sites.
Coinbase is already blocking it out.
https://fortune.com/2022/03/07/coinbase-blocks-25000-crypto-wallets-russians-sanctions/

Any sector or industry would really be affected it might not be directly hurting the government but it would really give out pressure and big effect into its owners itself.

Protest is already happening everywhere in Russia but all of them stop and people are imprisoned for voicing out so I guess small people cannot do anything and the only one count is their leaders decision but hopefully those growing sanctions will make their leaders doubt on their upcoming decisions. Hopefully this is not one of the ground for crypto to get ban on their country because this could also backfire if Russian government will take revenge.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mak013 on March 09, 2022, 07:45:44 AM
Protest is already happening everywhere in Russia but all of them stop and people are imprisoned for voicing out so I guess small people cannot do anything and the only one count is their leaders decision but hopefully those growing sanctions will make their leaders doubt on their upcoming decisions. Hopefully this is not one of the ground for crypto to get ban on their country because this could also backfire if Russian government will take revenge.
Just 2 moments i want to talk about.
1. These protests are really small and sometimes paid by someone. I don`t want to speak about good it or bad, but this is real situation, not as you see in different news agencies.
2. Ban of the cryptocurrencies in any country will destroy an idea of cryptocurrency. If it is possible to block someone - the cryptocurrency is not free and it can`t become a substitute for fiat money.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: rodskee on March 09, 2022, 08:55:06 AM
Protest is already happening everywhere in Russia but all of them stop and people are imprisoned for voicing out so I guess small people cannot do anything and the only one count is their leaders decision but hopefully those growing sanctions will make their leaders doubt on their upcoming decisions. Hopefully this is not one of the ground for crypto to get ban on their country because this could also backfire if Russian government will take revenge.
Just 2 moments i want to talk about.
1. These protests are really small and sometimes paid be someone. I don`t want to speak about good it or bad, but this is real situation, not as you see in different news agencies.
I am interested in the Word "PAID BY/BE SOMEONE" meaning that some protesters are just paid participants and not truly concern about the situation? and who pays them? sorry but this is just a curiosity .

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2. Ban of the cryptocurrencies in any country will destroy an idea of cryptocurrency. If it is possible to block someone - the cryptocurrency is not free and it can`t become a substitute for fiat money.
there are many countries that already banned cryptocurrencies but there are still people on that region that keeps using crypto so meaning there are no complete banning at all.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mak013 on March 09, 2022, 10:39:33 AM
Just 2 moments i want to talk about.
1. These protests are really small and sometimes paid be someone. I don`t want to speak about good it or bad, but this is real situation, not as you see in different news agencies.
I am interested in the Word "PAID BY/BE SOMEONE" meaning that some protesters are just paid participants and not truly concern about the situation? and who pays them? sorry but this is just a curiosity .
Yes, by, i made mistake. Yes, it does not matter for them about situation. I don`t know who pays but i`ve got 3 messages in my telegram with such offers, from $10 to $15 for 2 hours on such protest. If i would be arrested - + $150.

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2. Ban of the cryptocurrencies in any country will destroy an idea of cryptocurrency. If it is possible to block someone - the cryptocurrency is not free and it can`t become a substitute for fiat money.
there are many countries that already banned cryptocurrencies but there are still people on that region that keeps using crypto so meaning there are no complete banning at all.
I'll clarify what I mean: when any country ban all cryptocurrencies in this country - it is a problem with access and the law mostly. But now i see that one country ban and steal cryptocurrencies in another country - it means that there is no freedom and anonymity in cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: ultrloa on March 09, 2022, 10:41:23 AM
Protest is already happening everywhere in Russia but all of them stop and people are imprisoned for voicing out so I guess small people cannot do anything and the only one count is their leaders decision but hopefully those growing sanctions will make their leaders doubt on their upcoming decisions. Hopefully this is not one of the ground for crypto to get ban on their country because this could also backfire if Russian government will take revenge.
Just 2 moments i want to talk about.
1. These protests are really small and sometimes paid be someone. I don`t want to speak about good it or bad, but this is real situation, not as you see in different news agencies.
2. Ban of the cryptocurrencies in any country will destroy an idea of cryptocurrency. If it is possible to block someone - the cryptocurrency is not free and it can`t become a substitute for fiat money.

Not everyone is paid to do such action since their are Russians highly condemn what their leader do to Ukraine we see this stuff over the news and many Russian citizens doesn't like this war actually. But if we talk outside of those conflicted country maybe you are right since provably their are some entities who just want to create noise over this issues and want to create commotion or want to voice out what they like to happen.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: btc78 on March 09, 2022, 11:30:07 AM
Just 2 moments i want to talk about.
1. These protests are really small and sometimes paid be someone. I don`t want to speak about good it or bad, but this is real situation, not as you see in different news agencies.
I am interested in the Word "PAID BY/BE SOMEONE" meaning that some protesters are just paid participants and not truly concern about the situation? and who pays them? sorry but this is just a curiosity .
Yes, by, i made mistake. Yes, it does not matter for them about situation. I don`t know who pays but i`ve got 3 messages in my telegram with such offers, from $10 to $15 for 2 hours on such protest. If i would be arrested - + $150.

Really? there are groups that offers payment for Russian to partake in Rallies conducted against the war in Ukraine?

but is that insane offer? 150$ if you are arrested? how much you need to pay for Bail if that happened? and you will have a record in which we don't want to have.

I thinkt here are other forces behind that offerings .


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Daltonik on March 09, 2022, 12:22:42 PM
Payment for participation in anti-war speeches?, I think now no one who has such an opportunity in Russia will go for it, for example, Deripaska openly declares that "We need peace, the sooner the better," but there are no organized rallies at his enterprises calling for stopping the war, although more recently he actively brought people to events to support Putin.

The only trigger for anti-war marches in Russia at the moment is precisely the opportunity for young people, having gone through repression against them, to get the opportunity for political asylum, but mostly of course people come out under the impression of the horror they are witnessing.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: dunfida on March 09, 2022, 09:10:44 PM

What could be the bad impact of this to Russia if all the services and foreign investors, projects, suppliers, services, etc. would limit their service to Russia? I think the worst thing can happen is Putin will try to use nuke along with his defeat I think the man is insane. I see that some of his interviews were in green screen, is he hiding in his basement?

That's a long list. Never thought there are so many Russian casinos. I wouldn't really think if this will affect Putin or its government but just the individual who owns the casino. But if we all have to do it to squeeze the government of Russia, maybe a list of crypto exchanges too would be your option. Just to suggest after all it would be hypocrisy if just gambling sites.
Coinbase is already blocking it out.
https://fortune.com/2022/03/07/coinbase-blocks-25000-crypto-wallets-russians-sanctions/

Any sector or industry would really be affected it might not be directly hurting the government but it would really give out pressure and big effect into its owners itself.

Protest is already happening everywhere in Russia but all of them stop and people are imprisoned for voicing out so I guess small people cannot do anything and the only one count is their leaders decision but hopefully those growing sanctions will make their leaders doubt on their upcoming decisions. Hopefully this is not one of the ground for crypto to get ban on their country because this could also backfire if Russian government will take revenge.
As an ordinary citizen then they wouldnt really be having any choice but to deal on what their Leader do make out decisions and these things would become even more worst as the war continue.
I wont blame out about those sanction decisions or boycotting or something because this just something an ethical to be done because of those bad decisions made out.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: OgNasty on March 09, 2022, 09:20:17 PM
As an ordinary citizen then they wouldnt really be having any choice but to deal on what their Leader do make out decisions and these things would become even more worst as the war continue.
I wont blame out about those sanction decisions or boycotting or something because this just something an ethical to be done because of those bad decisions made out.

I think the overall goal of people pushing the "2 wrongs make a right" approach is to stop money flowing into Russia.  They want to hurt Russian tax deposits, destroy their economy, and inflict pain on their politicians.  Unfortunately, Putin is arguably the richest person on the planet (his real wealth dwarfs Elon Musk's).  There is no hurting him financially in any meaningful way.  The real losers are the citizens and it's sad.  I'm not sure the right approach, and I'm not against boycotts of Russian gambling platforms.  I just think people should consider the consequences of their actions to everyone effected.  Many Russians don't care about Ukraine and just want to live life and be happy.  I'm not sure what is expected from those people...  Rioting in the streets I guess... 

Maybe some Russian gambling platforms should come out and condemn the actions of their government?  Would that then be reason to support them?  Are any Russian companies doing this?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: dunfida on March 09, 2022, 10:49:18 PM
As an ordinary citizen then they wouldnt really be having any choice but to deal on what their Leader do make out decisions and these things would become even more worst as the war continue.
I wont blame out about those sanction decisions or boycotting or something because this just something an ethical to be done because of those bad decisions made out.

I think the overall goal of people pushing the "2 wrongs make a right" approach is to stop money flowing into Russia.  They want to hurt Russian tax deposits, destroy their economy, and inflict pain on their politicians.  Unfortunately, Putin is arguably the richest person on the planet (his real wealth dwarfs Elon Musk's).  There is no hurting him financially in any meaningful way.  The real losers are the citizens and it's sad.  I'm not sure the right approach, and I'm not against boycotts of Russian gambling platforms.  I just think people should consider the consequences of their actions to everyone effected.  Many Russians don't care about Ukraine and just want to live life and be happy.  I'm not sure what is expected from those people...  Rioting in the streets I guess... 

Maybe some Russian gambling platforms should come out and condemn the actions of their government?  Would that then be reason to support them?  Are any Russian companies doing this?
Most of their citizens doesnt really care about this invasive act made out by the government and no one really wants this for sure because they arent that blind on what would be the possible effects if countries around
would make out such sanctions which would result on having a very difficult lives in terms of different sections been excluded out due to the actions had been made.
As for companies or businesses then i dont see something that they could do if ever there would be some boycotts.They couldnt just try to take some actions against their government on whats happening.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Saint-loup on March 09, 2022, 10:55:28 PM
Today I came across a thread in which many users expressed their support for boycotting Russian gambling platforms (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387589.100).

I decided to create a list of such sites, which will be updated regularly.

If you know that some casino, game provider, or affiliate site is run by Russians, write the name in the comments.

If you want to support the boycott avoid these brands:

Online Casinos:

[...]
I'm not sure that's a good move since all those companies have nothing to do with the russian army and the russian government and even if all are really russian. But why didn't you include platforms like the famous russian blue and white exchange for example? AFAIK they're also russian and they are offering gambling games. You have some hidden specific criteria?
BTW several websites in your list are just mirrors of 1xbet.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mak013 on March 10, 2022, 06:32:02 AM
Really? there are groups that offers payment for Russian to partake in Rallies conducted against the war in Ukraine?
Yes. I don`t know are it private persons, or groups but there are such offers.

but is that insane offer? 150$ if you are arrested? how much you need to pay for Bail if that happened? and you will have a record in which we don't want to have.
I don`t know. Several weeks ago, no money needed - those arrested were released after a few hours free of charge. Now new laws, may be smth changes, i wasn`t arrested, can say how is it now.

I thinkt here are other forces behind that offerings .
I don`t know because it doesn`t matter for me. It is small money, may be just for students it can be interesting.



I don`t want to know who does it, why, etc. Just information that i got by myself. You can get answers by yourself who does it, what purposes, etc.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: TopTort777 on March 10, 2022, 10:58:09 AM
I'm not sure that's a good move since all those companies have nothing to do with the russian army and the russian government and even if all are really russian.

I think the idea of boycotting Russian gambling platforms was to decrease income tax Russian Federal Reserve get. It would be logical, if all the taxes from gambling would got on military needs. But is not how real situation is.

I am not even sure, that all the casinos from the list on first page are registered on Russian territory. Maybe only part of them are. While the other is registered somewhere on Malta, BVI or Belize for example.

It would be fair to boycott national or state companies. But right now OP call to boycott random Russian gambling platform owners, random people.

Why not then boycott Russians famous vodka Stolichnaya? Russians do like vodka after all. But wait, Stolichnaya belongs to Stoli Group USA, LLC, New York, NY.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Daltonik on March 10, 2022, 12:54:45 PM
For example, from fresh data, some gambling sites are already starting to block Russian users, as PokerStars says today on Twitter, it seems that now others will support this initiative

https://twitter.com/PokerStars/status/1501640076928983047 
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Important update: we are suspending all our services in Russia


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Botnake on March 10, 2022, 02:17:14 PM
For example, from fresh data, some gambling sites are already starting to block Russian users, as PokerStars says today on Twitter, it seems that now others will support this initiative

https://twitter.com/PokerStars/status/1501640076928983047 
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Important update: we are suspending all our services in Russia

Some sites are supporting the boycott while some will not.

Can we call this a sanction also? I mean, how would the site benefit from it, or will it call the attention of the Russian government?
This is just gambling, even if it's ban, they can live without it, the biggest sanction IMO is the economic sanction which I'm sure will result to struggle of their country.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mm2543363580 on March 10, 2022, 06:10:48 PM
For example, from fresh data, some gambling sites are already starting to block Russian users, as PokerStars says today on Twitter, it seems that now others will support this initiative

https://twitter.com/PokerStars/status/1501640076928983047 
Quote
Important update: we are suspending all our services in Russia

Some sites are supporting the boycott while some will not.

Can we call this a sanction also? I mean, how would the site benefit from it, or will it call the attention of the Russian government?
This is just gambling, even if it's ban, they can live without it, the biggest sanction IMO is the economic sanction which I'm sure will result to struggle of their country.
Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Hamphser on March 10, 2022, 06:56:54 PM
For example, from fresh data, some gambling sites are already starting to block Russian users, as PokerStars says today on Twitter, it seems that now others will support this initiative

https://twitter.com/PokerStars/status/1501640076928983047 
Quote
Important update: we are suspending all our services in Russia

Some sites are supporting the boycott while some will not.

Can we call this a sanction also? I mean, how would the site benefit from it, or will it call the attention of the Russian government?
This is just gambling, even if it's ban, they can live without it, the biggest sanction IMO is the economic sanction which I'm sure will result to struggle of their country.
Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.
For sure they do still have that reserve on which they could withstand on possible sanctions that had been imposed which is totally evident as of this moment.They arent backing off despite of those sanctions.

Every industry is now been affected and its true that this one would hurt their economy but it seems they dont really bother at all and still continue on what they are doing.
Sanctions are everywhere and it goes worst as we do go ahead.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: South Park on March 10, 2022, 08:39:16 PM
I'm not sure that's a good move since all those companies have nothing to do with the russian army and the russian government and even if all are really russian.

I think the idea of boycotting Russian gambling platforms was to decrease income tax Russian Federal Reserve get. It would be logical, if all the taxes from gambling would got on military needs. But is not how real situation is.

I am not even sure, that all the casinos from the list on first page are registered on Russian territory. Maybe only part of them are. While the other is registered somewhere on Malta, BVI or Belize for example.

It would be fair to boycott national or state companies. But right now OP call to boycott random Russian gambling platform owners, random people.

Why not then boycott Russians famous vodka Stolichnaya? Russians do like vodka after all. But wait, Stolichnaya belongs to Stoli Group USA, LLC, New York, NY.
And this is the problem with those ‘sanctions’, as you have stated it is fine to sanction the government of Russia or the politicians at the very top which are directly responsible of the horrible events we are witnessing at Ukraine, but a random Russian person or business does not have much to do with the war at all and maybe they are even against it in principle, so something like this is simply too much in my opinion.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Lanatsa on March 10, 2022, 08:57:46 PM
I'm not sure that's a good move since all those companies have nothing to do with the russian army and the russian government and even if all are really russian.

I think the idea of boycotting Russian gambling platforms was to decrease income tax Russian Federal Reserve get. It would be logical, if all the taxes from gambling would got on military needs. But is not how real situation is.

I am not even sure, that all the casinos from the list on first page are registered on Russian territory. Maybe only part of them are. While the other is registered somewhere on Malta, BVI or Belize for example.

It would be fair to boycott national or state companies. But right now OP call to boycott random Russian gambling platform owners, random people.

Why not then boycott Russians famous vodka Stolichnaya? Russians do like vodka after all. But wait, Stolichnaya belongs to Stoli Group USA, LLC, New York, NY.
And this is the problem with those ‘sanctions’, as you have stated it is fine to sanction the government of Russia or the politicians at the very top which are directly responsible of the horrible events we are witnessing at Ukraine, but a random Russian person or business does not have much to do with the war at all and maybe they are even against it in principle, so something like this is simply too much in my opinion.
Whether they do like it or not but still they would be also the casualties on what their leader had been done not on the sense on being dead but on the sense that their business had been greatly affected.
Yes, it wasnt really that right on attaching things up since they have nothing to do with this but as for economy talks then it would really be get involved or affected.
There's nothing they could do if such decisions would be made out.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Cookdata on March 10, 2022, 09:58:38 PM
Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.

You see my friend, Russia was prepared else they would have stopped their troops when delegates were sent to make peace but even within that period, they were still penetrating the Ukraine. I'm really looking how this sanctions will end though it doesn't make sense for the innocent business to suffer because a leader was mislead by his factions.
Many people depend on their business to feed, give sanctions to the persons holding power and not the man who see politics as a dirty game.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Taskford on March 10, 2022, 10:18:07 PM
Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.

You see my friend, Russia was prepared else they would have stopped their troops when delegates were sent to make peace but even within that period, they were still penetrating the Ukraine. I'm really looking how this sanctions will end though it doesn't make sense for the innocent business to suffer because a leader was mislead by his factions.
Many people depend on their business to feed, give sanctions to the persons holding power and not the man who see politics as a dirty game.

They know how they can create impact to the world that's why their government is so confident about their action towards Ukraine and look what happen to gas price now its sky rocketing and if this war continue for sure the influence of Russia will dominate this and maybe we can see the inflation rate of many countries will became more higher because the gas price is so high and uncontrollable at the moment. I do hope those sanctions will not create another huge conflict between other country so that we will see this war ends.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: DoublerHunter on March 10, 2022, 10:25:44 PM
~snip~

You see my friend, Russia was prepared else they would have stopped their troops when delegates were sent to make peace but even within that period, they were still penetrating the Ukraine. I'm really looking how this sanctions will end though it doesn't make sense for the innocent business to suffer because a leader was mislead by his factions.
Many people depend on their business to feed, give sanctions to the persons holding power and not the man who see politics as a dirty game.

They know how they can create impact to the world that's why their government is so confident about their action towards Ukraine and look what happen to gas price now its sky rocketing and if this war continue for sure the influence of Russia will dominate this and maybe we can see the inflation rate of many countries will became more higher because the gas price is so high and uncontrollable at the moment. I do hope those sanctions will not create another huge conflict between other country so that we will see this war ends.
^ It is now getting worst, they cut down their global internet access.
This should not happen if the Russian president is not a selfish leader, look at their citizens now it suffered from this decision that they even don't like or don't know. It is becoming expected that the economy get worst and worst when the war will continue and Putin will not lower his pride. People, there should boycott against this leadership, everything has been affected, businesses like the gambling industry and the entire economic growth on each country.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: paxmao on March 10, 2022, 11:21:34 PM
I am very glad that I am not on a campaign for any of those platforms, if I have any proof that anything I am doing helps Putin waging his war I would immediately stop it. And this is a very good idea, listing the sites that are Russian owned and that could potentially be paying taxes that help a war of aggression. Betting is about fun, and having that type of result is anything but.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: CaVO32 on March 10, 2022, 11:37:49 PM
I am very glad that I am not on a campaign for any of those platforms, if I have any proof that anything I am doing helps Putin waging his war I would immediately stop it. And this is a very good idea, listing the sites that are Russian owned and that could potentially be paying taxes that help a war of aggression. Betting is about fun, and having that type of result is anything but.

I guess, we won't know the extent of how these casinos are tied-up to the Russian government. Even if it is Russian-owned, are they legally under the jurisdiction of Russia? Some are licensed via Curacao Gaming License. So how are they paying taxes to the Russian government? Some are indeed identified as Russian-owned but usually they are virtually licensed somewhere like Estonia or Costa Rica or Curacao. Anyway, it is really up to the preference of the player here. We have our own take on this matter.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mm2543363580 on March 11, 2022, 07:33:15 AM
I am very glad that I am not on a campaign for any of those platforms, if I have any proof that anything I am doing helps Putin waging his war I would immediately stop it. And this is a very good idea, listing the sites that are Russian owned and that could potentially be paying taxes that help a war of aggression. Betting is about fun, and having that type of result is anything but.

I guess, we won't know the extent of how these casinos are tied-up to the Russian government. Even if it is Russian-owned, are they legally under the jurisdiction of Russia? Some are licensed via Curacao Gaming License. So how are they paying taxes to the Russian government? Some are indeed identified as Russian-owned but usually they are virtually licensed somewhere like Estonia or Costa Rica or Curacao. Anyway, it is really up to the preference of the player here. We have our own take on this matter.
I am at least at ease that world started speaking up. Already there was so much chaos in Palestine, Syera, Iqra, Kashmir, Afghanistan. But Since it was never the interest of EU and the world. No One spoke about it. No one even thought that there are human beings dying there as well. These Muslim countries  have seen so much deaths and blood shed that they won't be able to survive a normal life if they have managed to save themselves from the war.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mak013 on March 11, 2022, 08:43:15 AM
I am at least at ease that world started speaking up. Already there was so much chaos in Palestine, Syera, Iqra, Kashmir, Afghanistan. But Since it was never the interest of EU and the world. No One spoke about it. No one even thought that there are human beings dying there as well. These Muslim countries  have seen so much deaths and blood shed that they won't be able to survive a normal life if they have managed to save themselves from the war.
No one cares about it. And no one will talk about it. And no one will talk about american biolaboratories located in Ukraine and no one says about american biological weapons research in Ukraine. Only bad russians are always bad.
PS. How much american gambling sites were boycotted after Iraq? Who said smth about civilian killed by american in Afghanistan? It does not matter, americans are not russians.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: TopTort777 on March 11, 2022, 09:13:25 AM
I'm not sure that's a good move since all those companies have nothing to do with the russian army and the russian government and even if all are really russian.

I think the idea of boycotting Russian gambling platforms was to decrease income tax Russian Federal Reserve get. It would be logical, if all the taxes from gambling would got on military needs. But is not how real situation is.

I am not even sure, that all the casinos from the list on first page are registered on Russian territory. Maybe only part of them are. While the other is registered somewhere on Malta, BVI or Belize for example.

It would be fair to boycott national or state companies. But right now OP call to boycott random Russian gambling platform owners, random people.

Why not then boycott Russians famous vodka Stolichnaya? Russians do like vodka after all. But wait, Stolichnaya belongs to Stoli Group USA, LLC, New York, NY.
And this is the problem with those ‘sanctions’, as you have stated it is fine to sanction the government of Russia or the politicians at the very top which are directly responsible of the horrible events we are witnessing at Ukraine, but a random Russian person or business does not have much to do with the war at all and maybe they are even against it in principle, so something like this is simply too much in my opinion.

"Sanctions here, sanctions there, sanctions everywhere". Do they really help? Do they have any effect now ? Yes, now, because later it will be an effect on Russia, but the war needs to be stopped now, not later.

Our country has proposed sanctions and is trying to replace Russian gas. Yes, we are showing those Russian how bad they are, we will force them to stop, they will suffer from sanctions. But will they really do? So far I see how petrol price gained 10 cents every 12/24 hours. It cost 60 euro to fill full tank in January, it cost 100 euro to do the same now. Even though we had gas reserve, today I have received February utility bill with corrected heating column; +50 euro. I usually spend 50-70 euro to buy food for whole week. Two days ago I have refused to buy several goods, and had left +100 in the store.

2 weeks of war and sanctions against Russia, but my wallet suffered 150 euro loss. As if I am punishing myself. Same will be with boycotting their gambling platforms. We boycott them, and other platforms will get our money. If this is like that, is that boycott really that necessary?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 11, 2022, 09:41:22 AM
I am very glad that I am not on a campaign for any of those platforms, if I have any proof that anything I am doing helps Putin waging his war I would immediately stop it. And this is a very good idea, listing the sites that are Russian owned and that could potentially be paying taxes that help a war of aggression. Betting is about fun, and having that type of result is anything but.

I guess, we won't know the extent of how these casinos are tied-up to the Russian government. Even if it is Russian-owned, are they legally under the jurisdiction of Russia? Some are licensed via Curacao Gaming License. So how are they paying taxes to the Russian government? Some are indeed identified as Russian-owned but usually they are virtually licensed somewhere like Estonia or Costa Rica or Curacao. Anyway, it is really up to the preference of the player here. We have our own take on this matter.
I think it's still hard to do because even if the gambling site is in Russia and some people here boycott the site, we don't know what the gamblers out there will do. They may continue to play in casinos originating from Russia because they have never been to this forum and heard the news about a desire to boycott gambling sites originating from Russia.

Maybe if the license provider carries out the boycott, it can work well because they as regulators of gambling sites have the right to block the licenses of each gambling site. But I don't know. It goes back to each gambler.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Wexnident on March 11, 2022, 11:13:56 AM
Maybe if the license provider carries out the boycott, it can work well because they as regulators of gambling sites have the right to block the licenses of each gambling site. But I don't know. It goes back to each gambler.
Yea I don't think that's going to happen. There wouldn't really be any big effects imo, casinos are just like a kind of business, and honestly, providers banning them doesn't seem like it's going to do anything, except for damaging businesses that have no actual effect on their economy. Honestly, no one even views gambling casinos as something that could help them, banned or not, so I don't think it's gonna happen.

Sanctions are there to persuade them from stopping, as well as to show the damages it could bring now and in the future. That's why sanctions with the SWIFT system, payment systems, etc., could really damage since their things that are needed most of the time to process stuff. Gambling isn't really one of them.



Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: swogerino on March 11, 2022, 12:26:20 PM
For example, from fresh data, some gambling sites are already starting to block Russian users, as PokerStars says today on Twitter, it seems that now others will support this initiative

https://twitter.com/PokerStars/status/1501640076928983047 
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Important update: we are suspending all our services in Russia

Some sites are supporting the boycott while some will not.

Can we call this a sanction also? I mean, how would the site benefit from it, or will it call the attention of the Russian government?
This is just gambling, even if it's ban, they can live without it, the biggest sanction IMO is the economic sanction which I'm sure will result to struggle of their country.
Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.

Even that pig Dmitry Peskov the press secretary for Russian government or I don't know his exact role but he always speaks in the name of the government said that the situation is turbulent but we are looking at ways to fix it.

I doubt though they will fix anything when they leave in a distort reality when the foreign matter minister Lavrov said in Antalya yesterday that we are not killing innocent people in Ukraine when just yesterday they bombed a maternity hospital.I hope for more stabs in the chest until the Russian people get up and fight for freedom once again,I highly doubt they are living in a free democratic country,for me Russia right now is increasingly becoming the second North Korea.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: MCVXYZ on March 11, 2022, 02:44:16 PM
Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.

You see my friend, Russia was prepared else they would have stopped their troops when delegates were sent to make peace but even within that period, they were still penetrating the Ukraine. I'm really looking how this sanctions will end though it doesn't make sense for the innocent business to suffer because a leader was mislead by his factions.
Many people depend on their business to feed, give sanctions to the persons holding power and not the man who see politics as a dirty game.

The aim of the concrete sanctions is to make people inside the country opposition-minded and to oppose their authorities. Many people don't understand this and think that sanctions are against innocent civilians. this is the circumstance where too many things depend on people and not just the governments.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: goldkingcoiner on March 11, 2022, 03:21:17 PM
Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.

You see my friend, Russia was prepared else they would have stopped their troops when delegates were sent to make peace but even within that period, they were still penetrating the Ukraine. I'm really looking how this sanctions will end though it doesn't make sense for the innocent business to suffer because a leader was mislead by his factions.
Many people depend on their business to feed, give sanctions to the persons holding power and not the man who see politics as a dirty game.

The aim of the concrete sanctions is to make people inside the country opposition-minded and to oppose their authorities. Many people don't understand this and think that sanctions are against innocent civilians. this is the circumstance where too many things depend on people and not just the governments.

This online casino gambling "sanction" is not really what anyone could call a real sanction, as its not really possible to enforce legally. An online gambling casino can always relocate its servers and change the people who are in "charge". First and foremost a sanction is supposed to take away the billions and billions of dollars that the sanctioned country has, so that it cannot use that money to fuel its war machine. Sanctioning the people only makes them angry, this anger can be redirected at the sanctioning countries easily.

We should take away Putins military might with precise sanctions to his military economic infrastructure.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: MCVXYZ on March 11, 2022, 06:55:08 PM
Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.

You see my friend, Russia was prepared else they would have stopped their troops when delegates were sent to make peace but even within that period, they were still penetrating the Ukraine. I'm really looking how this sanctions will end though it doesn't make sense for the innocent business to suffer because a leader was mislead by his factions.
Many people depend on their business to feed, give sanctions to the persons holding power and not the man who see politics as a dirty game.

The aim of the concrete sanctions is to make people inside the country opposition-minded and to oppose their authorities. Many people don't understand this and think that sanctions are against innocent civilians. this is the circumstance where too many things depend on people and not just the governments.

This online casino gambling "sanction" is not really what anyone could call a real sanction, as its not really possible to enforce legally. An online gambling casino can always relocate its servers and change the people who are in "charge". First and foremost a sanction is supposed to take away the billions and billions of dollars that the sanctioned country has, so that it cannot use that money to fuel its war machine. Sanctioning the people only makes them angry, this anger can be redirected at the sanctioning countries easily.

We should take away Putins military might with precise sanctions to his military economic infrastructure.

I don't think that the sanctions can make people angry and this anger can be redirected to the countries who impose the sanctions, In contrast the sanctions may have the huge impact on citizens whose anger can be redirected to the authorities inside the sanctioned countries and as I mentioned its the aim of sanctions. Other countries don't worry about  ,,angry citizens'' outside their country.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: FatFork on March 11, 2022, 07:57:40 PM
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I don't think that the sanctions can make people angry and this anger can be redirected to the countries who impose the sanctions, In contrast the sanctions may have the huge impact on citizens whose anger can be redirected to the authorities inside the sanctioned countries and as I mentioned its the aim of sanctions. Other countries don't worry about  ,,angry citizens'' outside their country.

Yes, sanctions and boycotts can make people angry, or at least uncomfortable, but the real question is whether they will persuade Putin to reverse his policies. It is apparent that Putin's regime keeps the people on a tight leash and will use sanctions as an excuse to keep them in line.

The real sanctions against the Russian people come from their government's policies. It may be that Western sanctions will make some people feel discomfort, but at the end of the day, the real suffering comes from the Kremlin's policies, not from the sanctions. As such, they will only bring more anger and alienation to the citizenry, and ultimately, lead to greater demonstrations and protests, creating even greater public discontent.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mak013 on March 11, 2022, 09:29:26 PM
Yes, sanctions and boycotts can make people angry, or at least uncomfortable, but the real question is whether they will persuade Putin to reverse his policies. It is apparent that Putin's regime keeps the people on a tight leash and will use sanctions as an excuse to keep them in line.

The real sanctions against the Russian people come from their government's policies. It may be that Western sanctions will make some people feel discomfort, but at the end of the day, the real suffering comes from the Kremlin's policies, not from the sanctions. As such, they will only bring more anger and alienation to the citizenry, and ultimately, lead to greater demonstrations and protests, creating even greater public discontent.

Do you really believe in sanctions? Tell me how change the politics in North Korea or Iran? They are much smaller then Russia but i don`t see how their leaders cry and change politics. And when we are talking about North Korea - this country has no any resources and no possibilities to make problems to USA or EU but sanctions does not work even with such small country. Why do you think they will work with Russia?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Cookdata on March 11, 2022, 11:45:24 PM
Do you really believe in sanctions? Tell me how change the politics in North Korea or Iran? They are much smaller then Russia but i don`t see how their leaders cry and change politics. And when we are talking about North Korea - this country has no any resources and no possibilities to make problems to USA or EU but sanctions does not work even with such small country. Why do you think they will work with Russia?

The  two countries you made mentioned are two different things to be compare to Russia. First North Korea has been into autocratic system of government and with the fact that media and the west painting them red flags, half of the country haven't one day say they need democracy and so do Iran with theocracy where things might be hard for you to stay in.
Russia is a fully democratic system where everyone is open to right to freedom and live their life to the fullest, those sanctions may not work Iran and North Korea but it will greatly have negative effects on Russians, Chelsea owner is facing the heat right now. ;D ;D


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: bittraffic on March 12, 2022, 03:06:15 AM
Do you really believe in sanctions? Tell me how change the politics in North Korea or Iran? They are much smaller then Russia but i don`t see how their leaders cry and change politics. And when we are talking about North Korea - this country has no any resources and no possibilities to make problems to USA or EU but sanctions does not work even with such small country. Why do you think they will work with Russia?

The  two countries you made mentioned are two different things to be compare to Russia. First North Korea has been into autocratic system of government and with the fact that media and the west painting them red flags, half of the country haven't one day say they need democracy and so do Iran with theocracy where things might be hard for you to stay in.
Russia is a fully democratic system where everyone is open to right to freedom and live their life to the fullest, those sanctions may not work Iran and North Korea but it will greatly have negative effects on Russians, Chelsea owner is facing the heat right now. ;D ;D


Not everyone knew that Russia is actually a democratic country and more than half I think are even Christians. And they are suffering not just because of their government's action but we sanctioned those Russian civilians like pushing them all to the wall. Its not working in the end because they will start enduring and work with the rest of the countries that are on their side like North Korea, India and China.

But who do you think will be able to say a country will need a democracy? 
What works in another country will not work for all because of the culture. North Korea had been that way for generations, the people there are used to it same with China or Iraq, or Libya.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: CDC AP on March 12, 2022, 04:43:05 AM
I disagree with your ideas and asking for boycott of all Russian gambling platforms because is not any connected between war and gambling platform site, many people spent much money on Russian gambling platform site and they not care with war and never have Russian citizen looks agree with this war, I think have to make it different between gambling platform site and war, you looks as politician when mixing between war and gambling platform because all people try lucky with gambling and never car with politician situation around the world.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 12, 2022, 06:43:38 AM
Yea I don't think that's going to happen. There wouldn't really be any big effects imo, casinos are just like a kind of business, and honestly, providers banning them doesn't seem like it's going to do anything, except for damaging businesses that have no actual effect on their economy. Honestly, no one even views gambling casinos as something that could help them, banned or not, so I don't think it's gonna happen.

Sanctions are there to persuade them from stopping, as well as to show the damages it could bring now and in the future. That's why sanctions with the SWIFT system, payment systems, etc., could really damage since their things that are needed most of the time to process stuff. Gambling isn't really one of them.
Unless there is pressure from the relevant government on the casino provider, the casino provider will act. But as long as it's nothing, the casino provider will let the casino run and pass the taxes on to them.

Gambling is one of the businesses that currently looks promising, especially online gambling. During the pandemic, there is a possibility that the number of online gamblers will increase drastically because many of them cannot go to physical casinos. So they try to play gambling in online casinos.

The sanctions may affect the people because reducing or banning goods from entering Russia will become a problem for the people and they are forced to save money.

Russia is a fully democratic system where everyone is open to right to freedom and live their life to the fullest
I don't know if Russia is a fully democratic system because I don't know life there. Maybe the sanctions can work but it is the people who suffer the most from the sanctions while the government and the political elite will not feel it too much. There is a possibility that it will trigger people to protest against his government because they live in misery.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: decodx on March 12, 2022, 08:02:36 AM
But who do you think will be able to say a country will need a democracy? 
What works in another country will not work for all because of the culture. North Korea had been that way for generations, the people there are used to it same with China or Iraq, or Libya.


Exactly. Each country should be able to choose its own path. Even Ukraine, don't you think? Perhaps someone should tell that to Putin.
Using double standards and completely ignoring a country's and a people's right to choose their own path while giving examples that fit your theory is absurd.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: swogerino on March 12, 2022, 09:58:12 AM
Do you really believe in sanctions? Tell me how change the politics in North Korea or Iran? They are much smaller then Russia but i don`t see how their leaders cry and change politics. And when we are talking about North Korea - this country has no any resources and no possibilities to make problems to USA or EU but sanctions does not work even with such small country. Why do you think they will work with Russia?

The  two countries you made mentioned are two different things to be compare to Russia. First North Korea has been into autocratic system of government and with the fact that media and the west painting them red flags, half of the country haven't one day say they need democracy and so do Iran with theocracy where things might be hard for you to stay in.
Russia is a fully democratic system where everyone is open to right to freedom and live their life to the fullest, those sanctions may not work Iran and North Korea but it will greatly have negative effects on Russians, Chelsea owner is facing the heat right now. ;D ;D

I find it really hard to believe that Russia is a fully democratic system when everything there is controlled by the government,they even have a really big distort reality they live in their own fantasy there and tell their citizens a lot and I mean a lot of bullshit like they are going to save Ukraine when Ukraine does not at all need to be saved,by the way save from whom the nazi in the Russian government fantasy?

The sanctions will work but their effects will not be felt directly,they need time and I am sorry for Russian civilians but they choose their government and not anyone else if they are a "fully democratic country".The Russians hopefully will wake up when they see the effect of the sanctions and start a rage against Putin.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: FatFork on March 12, 2022, 10:28:54 AM
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Do you really believe in sanctions? Tell me how change the politics in North Korea or Iran? They are much smaller then Russia but i don`t see how their leaders cry and change politics. And when we are talking about North Korea - this country has no any resources and no possibilities to make problems to USA or EU but sanctions does not work even with such small country. Why do you think they will work with Russia?

It doesn't matter what I believe. I don't have the power to make such decisions.

As I have already said, the real sanctions against the Russian people will come not from the West but from their government and Putin's regime. This is not rocket science, people in the former Soviet Union lived in poverty and deprivation for decades. The Russians are a tough and capable people, but without the blessing of the international community, they will surely suffer more and more from the degeneration of the Russian economy.



Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: goldkingcoiner on March 12, 2022, 10:29:17 AM
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I don't think that the sanctions can make people angry and this anger can be redirected to the countries who impose the sanctions, In contrast the sanctions may have the huge impact on citizens whose anger can be redirected to the authorities inside the sanctioned countries and as I mentioned its the aim of sanctions. Other countries don't worry about  ,,angry citizens'' outside their country.

Yes, sanctions and boycotts can make people angry, or at least uncomfortable, but the real question is whether they will persuade Putin to reverse his policies. It is apparent that Putin's regime keeps the people on a tight leash and will use sanctions as an excuse to keep them in line.

The real sanctions against the Russian people come from their government's policies. It may be that Western sanctions will make some people feel discomfort, but at the end of the day, the real suffering comes from the Kremlin's policies, not from the sanctions. As such, they will only bring more anger and alienation to the citizenry, and ultimately, lead to greater demonstrations and protests, creating even greater public discontent.


Well we should not forget that we are talking about sanctions of RUSSIAN GAMBLING PLATFORMS in the form of unstrategic and uncoordinated collective boycotts. It should bear reminding that even though sanctions can steer the people to go against their government, it can also have the reverse effect. Especially if you consider all the psychological propaganda that people are exposed to in Russia. Lets not underestimate what propaganda can do to the human mind.

But as I have already mentioned, this is about online gambling platforms. Which means this is a digital service. A digital service which can be sold under a different name under a different server.

How do you boycott an online gambling service?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Taskford on March 12, 2022, 10:43:07 AM
~snip~

You see my friend, Russia was prepared else they would have stopped their troops when delegates were sent to make peace but even within that period, they were still penetrating the Ukraine. I'm really looking how this sanctions will end though it doesn't make sense for the innocent business to suffer because a leader was mislead by his factions.
Many people depend on their business to feed, give sanctions to the persons holding power and not the man who see politics as a dirty game.

They know how they can create impact to the world that's why their government is so confident about their action towards Ukraine and look what happen to gas price now its sky rocketing and if this war continue for sure the influence of Russia will dominate this and maybe we can see the inflation rate of many countries will became more higher because the gas price is so high and uncontrollable at the moment. I do hope those sanctions will not create another huge conflict between other country so that we will see this war ends.
^ It is now getting worst, they cut down their global internet access.
This should not happen if the Russian president is not a selfish leader, look at their citizens now it suffered from this decision that they even don't like or don't know. It is becoming expected that the economy get worst and worst when the war will continue and Putin will not lower his pride. People, there should boycott against this leadership, everything has been affected, businesses like the gambling industry and the entire economic growth on each country.

There are group of hackers are attacking there system so maybe this contribute on their decision to disconnect in the world. And I don't think this will really help because its like their citizen is slowly living like north korean life. Also they cannot boycott their government right now because Putin is so strict imposing the law which is favor to him. Maybe both countries should lower down their prides so that they can return back the freedom of each countries.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: iv4n on March 12, 2022, 10:45:46 AM
I find it really hard to believe that Russia is a fully democratic system when everything there is controlled by the government,they even have a really big distort reality they live in their own fantasy there and tell their citizens a lot and I mean a lot of bullshit like they are going to save Ukraine when Ukraine does not at all need to be saved,by the way save from whom the nazi in the Russian government fantasy?

I find it really hard to believe that any country in this world is fully democratic! Governments do that, they are controlling everything everywhere, how they think it's the best for them and the group of people in power, and I am sure that all governments (with big help from all sorts of media) are painting the reality of their citizens!

Well, when bombs were dropping on my head nobody said that NATO is the aggressor, I knew some guys from football who died during that time, I was 15 years old! Nis Cluster Bombing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ni%C5%A1_cluster_bombing)
The bottom line, all aggressors should be treated equally, but that's not the case, is it!? My childhood was in wars and sanctions, unimaginable inflation, and all other bullshit that comes from that... Now I don't trust any government, I saw their evil face and I felt their wrath, in some way each of them is responsible for the big shit we have around the world with all the things they did or did not do!
And in the 21st-century people still choose sides, it doesn't seem to matter that we all know that nothing good will happen from evil things that are done, but people still choose to take a stone in their hand and shoot someone! As Putin cannot be reached (or other rulers, there are many of them that should be moved from their chair), let's target all the people around him, so they will turn against him?! So is that normal?! Is that how we should teach our children to be rude to vent their anger on everyone around them!? I refuse to be like that!


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Mauser on March 12, 2022, 12:09:55 PM

Do you really believe in sanctions? Tell me how change the politics in North Korea or Iran? They are much smaller then Russia but i don`t see how their leaders cry and change politics. And when we are talking about North Korea - this country has no any resources and no possibilities to make problems to USA or EU but sanctions does not work even with such small country. Why do you think they will work with Russia?

Yes I believe that sanctions work. Sanctions are put in place to hurt the economy of a country. We could see the effect after USA announced the sanctions on Russia, the Rubel dropped 30% instantly. I am sure that if there were no sanctions on Iran or North Korea than their economy would be much stronger today. Just compare south and north Korea, one a free market capitalist country, the other one a closed of country. Sanctions prohibit companies to do business freely, there will also be a cost for the country that issues the sanctions.
The question is however, if the sanctions are helpful in changing the course of a country, or if they make things worse. In theory international sanctions reduce the economy, which in return should make its population unhappy to create pressure on the politicians to change their course. For some sanctions is this true, but if the sanctions become to severe it will create anger and resentment towards the foreign country. In Russia a few people decide the fate of the country, but with the sanctions all the people are hurting.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Maslate on March 12, 2022, 01:19:08 PM

Do you really believe in sanctions? Tell me how change the politics in North Korea or Iran? They are much smaller then Russia but i don`t see how their leaders cry and change politics. And when we are talking about North Korea - this country has no any resources and no possibilities to make problems to USA or EU but sanctions does not work even with such small country. Why do you think they will work with Russia?

Yes I believe that sanctions work. Sanctions are put in place to hurt the economy of a country. We could see the effect after USA announced the sanctions on Russia, the Rubel dropped 30% instantly. I am sure that if there were no sanctions on Iran or North Korea than their economy would be much stronger today. Just compare south and north Korea, one a free market capitalist country, the other one a closed of country. Sanctions prohibit companies to do business freely, there will also be a cost for the country that issues the sanctions.
The question is however, if the sanctions are helpful in changing the course of a country, or if they make things worse. In theory international sanctions reduce the economy, which in return should make its population unhappy to create pressure on the politicians to change their course. For some sanctions is this true, but if the sanctions become to severe it will create anger and resentment towards the foreign country. In Russia a few people decide the fate of the country, but with the sanctions all the people are hurting.

The sanction would hurt the economy but if Russia had allied countries who can provide what they need, it shouldn't be a big problem. And besides, Russia before their action is surely studying the possible result already and because they did this, I would like to think that they are so ready with the outcome or whatever sanction they may have.

In the end, it's all about how the allies would help them as for sure those who help will also be sanctioned by big countries like the USA.

Also, don't forget that USA is not as powerful as they were before, we have big countries now like China who are competing globally.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mak013 on March 12, 2022, 02:10:26 PM
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It doesn't matter what I believe. I don't have the power to make such decisions.

As I have already said, the real sanctions against the Russian people will come not from the West but from their government and Putin's regime. This is not rocket science, people in the former Soviet Union lived in poverty and deprivation for decades. The Russians are a tough and capable people, but without the blessing of the international community, they will surely suffer more and more from the degeneration of the Russian economy.
I don`t think that Russian people believe that their government blocked ApplePay (for example). Except rocket science there are other industries in that Russia as strong and it can become a problem to the West. But we can discuss for a long time and not come to a consensus, just after several months we will see who is right. So let`s wait and see.
So, i`m stop offtopic, let`s return to casinos.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Maestro75 on March 13, 2022, 02:09:12 PM
As I said, the boycott of business or cultural events is to have an impact on Russian society. When the Russian society feels that they are in very uncomfortable situation and even cause financial losses due to the government actions, society will put pressure on the government to stop that actions. It makes sense to me, and I support it.

It makes sense to you because you do not own or run any business in Russia. Think beyond this and think of what those who do not like Putin but own businesses in Russia whose businesses are now sanctioned will be faced with now. Putin is a dictator despite that he was elected into office, and you think he will not go after anyone who will go on the streets to protest against him because of the imposed sanctions? That man is capable of killing anything that stands as barrier to him.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Mauser on March 13, 2022, 02:24:18 PM
It makes sense to you because you do not own or run any business in Russia. Think beyond this and think of what those who do not like Putin but own businesses in Russia whose businesses are now sanctioned will be faced with now. Putin is a dictator despite that he was elected into office, and you think he will not go after anyone who will go on the streets to protest against him because of the imposed sanctions? That man is capable of killing anything that stands as barrier to him.

This is exactly my concern, in Russia not everybody is supporting Putin. The official approval rate of Putin was around 70%, which is of course not a correct number. So even in the worst case 30% are not supporting Putin and will still be hit hard by the sanctions. It's easy for us from the West to say that people should stand up to Putin, even if that leads to getting beaten up and worst case spend 10 years in jail.
The billionaires and oligarchs still have most of their money in Russia, they might lose some yachts, international money and properties. But their lifestyle within Russia probably won't charge much. It's the average citizen that is hurting he most. And will the sanctions really help and make them stand up to Putin or will they get angry at the West instead? I think there is a big possibilities that the sanctions backfire and make more people angry against the West. Which will push Russia even further into a corner.
I am against this war and hope that the peace deals will lead to a ceasefire soon.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mdzahed134 on March 13, 2022, 02:55:05 PM
Russia is banned by Fifa and Uefa which I'm really upset with. Why the fuck they have to do dirty politics with sports?
Where was Fifa when other dominating countries had dominated some countries, I'm talking about few years back.
I really don't support this. I agree that what Russia is doing is bad, I strongly oppose any war around. But that doesn’t mean we have to ignore their casinos.
Right, when i heard this news i was also very disappointed as football is my favorite. And i think there should be no political affiliation with the sports/football. Most provably very popular football club owner Roman Abramovich also has been banned,  Maybe due to this reason he announced to sell this club to donate for Ukraine. 


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: rhomelmabini on March 13, 2022, 03:19:24 PM
Russia is banned by Fifa and Uefa which I'm really upset with. Why the fuck they have to do dirty politics with sports?
Where was Fifa when other dominating countries had dominated some countries, I'm talking about few years back.
I really don't support this. I agree that what Russia is doing is bad, I strongly oppose any war around. But that doesn’t mean we have to ignore their casinos.
Right, when i heard this news i was also very disappointed as football is my favorite. And i think there should be no political affiliation with the sports/football. Most provably very popular football club owner Roman Abramovich also has been banned,  Maybe due to this reason he announced to sell this club to donate for Ukraine. 
We can't really argue on what's the sentiment for now as it's likely the consensus of the majority but this whole thing will never end up if sanctions and boycotting techniques will just continue. I mean there's no end to this if this is the process, it will just create more chaos since some may not partly agree or disagree to what are others was doing, it will just create disharmony.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on March 13, 2022, 08:37:57 PM
As I said, the boycott of business or cultural events is to have an impact on Russian society. When the Russian society feels that they are in very uncomfortable situation and even cause financial losses due to the government actions, society will put pressure on the government to stop that actions. It makes sense to me, and I support it.

It makes sense to you because you do not own or run any business in Russia. Think beyond this and think of what those who do not like Putin but own businesses in Russia whose businesses are now sanctioned will be faced with now. Putin is a dictator despite that he was elected into office, and you think he will not go after anyone who will go on the streets to protest against him because of the imposed sanctions? That man is capable of killing anything that stands as barrier to him.
Exactly the point I made here earlier, not everyone in Russia likes putin, and all this people own businesses, they are against what putin is doing but can't really do much other than to protest, and protesting also means risking their lives cus as @maestro75 said above, putin will not hesitate to go after anyone who will want to stand in his way, this man has also killed many Russians citizens if we begin to look deep into it.
This people are already suffering in the hands of putin and are forced to keep quiet, boycotting their businesses which is their only means of livelihood I still believe is not ideal, except we can identify those who are supporting putin, then this ones are the ones that really deserve the boycotting.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Fortify on March 13, 2022, 09:00:49 PM
It makes sense to you because you do not own or run any business in Russia. Think beyond this and think of what those who do not like Putin but own businesses in Russia whose businesses are now sanctioned will be faced with now. Putin is a dictator despite that he was elected into office, and you think he will not go after anyone who will go on the streets to protest against him because of the imposed sanctions? That man is capable of killing anything that stands as barrier to him.

This is exactly my concern, in Russia not everybody is supporting Putin. The official approval rate of Putin was around 70%, which is of course not a correct number. So even in the worst case 30% are not supporting Putin and will still be hit hard by the sanctions. It's easy for us from the West to say that people should stand up to Putin, even if that leads to getting beaten up and worst case spend 10 years in jail.
The billionaires and oligarchs still have most of their money in Russia, they might lose some yachts, international money and properties. But their lifestyle within Russia probably won't charge much. It's the average citizen that is hurting he most. And will the sanctions really help and make them stand up to Putin or will they get angry at the West instead? I think there is a big possibilities that the sanctions backfire and make more people angry against the West. Which will push Russia even further into a corner.
I am against this war and hope that the peace deals will lead to a ceasefire soon.

We're in very dangerous times right now and as you point out, even though Putin's approval rating looks high it is impossible to take any of these internal Russian polls seriously - it is effectively putting citizens on trial if they answer negatively about him. While I agree with all the action that has been taken against Russia so far and they are in for a whole world of economic pain, because they choose to invade then murder their neighbors, there are going to be long lasting repercussions that reverberate around the world. Russia has isolated itself through these terrible actions, but that makes it harder for Putin the fool to see a way out and might make him prone to even more dangerous actions - what a confusing situation we're left in.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Renampun on March 14, 2022, 07:50:25 PM
Why Ukarine allies are boycotting Russia at all levels now? Where were they when USA, NATO and EU were bombing innocent civilians in Afghanistan, iraq, Libeya and Syria. Does only white life matters? This world only has dual faces and they care only for there interest. Nobody carea for cancer patients in countries where USA bombed.
I see from what happened between ukraine and russia is a humanitarian crisis...

I'm not defending the united states, it's just that what they are doing in afghanistan and syria is to fight the terrorists, if no one is against them then no other country cares about it. back to topic, i don't support any boycott aimed at gambling platforms from russia because they don't have any role in this war, they are also victims and to the putin dictatorship.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 15, 2022, 03:52:35 AM
Russia is banned by Fifa and Uefa which I'm really upset with. Why the fuck they have to do dirty politics with sports?
Where was Fifa when other dominating countries had dominated some countries, I'm talking about few years back.
I really don't support this. I agree that what Russia is doing is bad, I strongly oppose any war around. But that doesn’t mean we have to ignore their casinos.
Right, when i heard this news i was also very disappointed as football is my favorite. And i think there should be no political affiliation with the sports/football. Most provably very popular football club owner Roman Abramovich also has been banned,  Maybe due to this reason he announced to sell this club to donate for Ukraine. 
We can't really argue on what's the sentiment for now as it's likely the consensus of the majority but this whole thing will never end up if sanctions and boycotting techniques will just continue. I mean there's no end to this if this is the process, it will just create more chaos since some may not partly agree or disagree to what are others was doing, it will just create disharmony.
It is no secret to anyone that bans are a nuisance, especially when they come from a government system that has threatened the world, however sports and bookmakers also have sanctions because they come as a result of the same conflict, I know that many Russians are not to blame, they are against the war, but it is very difficult for those voices to be heard, it is not a lie that Russia is currently having a great economic conflict, many of the people are desperate queuing in the banks to withdraw cash and quickly convert it to fiat, where buying a dollar represents many rubles.

Due to this, the problem extends to all possible scenarios, which is why the sanctions are to remove all access to the Russians as a measure of pressure on the government and demand the cessation of attacks, this leads to blockades in casinos and entertainment, not I know to what extent VPNs are viable in Russia, but I think it's a good option.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: michellee on March 15, 2022, 04:00:05 AM
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Well, hopefully, the fires of war can be extinguished soon so that no one else will suffer. When Instagram is banned in Russia and people can move their data to the Russian Platform, Instagram can get a new rival because Russian products can dominate the market by providing more convenience to its users. In addition, if the Russian platform can develop better than other products, there is a possibility that it can shift Instagram's position.

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I think there is a political interest behind all the happenings in this world so we might judge it unfair to other countries when they get almost the same treatment. But well, we can't do anything because it's all beyond our reach as ordinary people. We can only hope that everything will be fine and continue to live well.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: redsun114 on March 15, 2022, 09:31:40 AM
Thank goodness that my favourite places (the casino where I play) are not in the list. If it's included, I think I will think twice if I will boycott it or not. I am not planning on adding more casinos on my list so don't worry op. I only knew few casinos in the list but the one that is popular and active in the forum is 1xbit.

I believe that many users are going to avoid this casino not because they are in with the boycott but only to feel safe because the casino have some serious complaints in the past that until now are not resolved yet. Not sure if it's a good thing to boycott Russians because I heard that even Russians now are concerned with the Ukrainians and most of them now are expressing it in the form of crypto donations.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: btc78 on March 15, 2022, 10:04:28 AM
As I said, the boycott of business or cultural events is to have an impact on Russian society. When the Russian society feels that they are in very uncomfortable situation and even cause financial losses due to the government actions, society will put pressure on the government to stop that actions. It makes sense to me, and I support it.

It makes sense to you because you do not own or run any business in Russia. Think beyond this and think of what those who do not like Putin but own businesses in Russia whose businesses are now sanctioned will be faced with now. Putin is a dictator despite that he was elected into office, and you think he will not go after anyone who will go on the streets to protest against him because of the imposed sanctions? That man is capable of killing anything that stands as barrier to him.
But government has their own interests and they begin a war with an intention and stop the war when they think it is right time to do that. So many countries were destroyed, so many innocent lives were lost in the hand of war master and when was the result? They are still in the attacking position and they will keep doing this in coming day - there is no stopping!
I understand your point here because Super countries want wars to happen so they can sell Guns and Ammunitions in which will make their economy High again and I know one of that Country that has this attitude even before .

So you are also correct that this will never stop instead will continue happens in the years come by.

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and about our action here , are we really helping something or someone by this Boycotting ?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: AicecreaME on March 15, 2022, 02:06:33 PM
As I said, the boycott of business or cultural events is to have an impact on Russian society. When the Russian society feels that they are in very uncomfortable situation and even cause financial losses due to the government actions, society will put pressure on the government to stop that actions. It makes sense to me, and I support it.

It makes sense to you because you do not own or run any business in Russia. Think beyond this and think of what those who do not like Putin but own businesses in Russia whose businesses are now sanctioned will be faced with now. Putin is a dictator despite that he was elected into office, and you think he will not go after anyone who will go on the streets to protest against him because of the imposed sanctions? That man is capable of killing anything that stands as barrier to him.

This is what I'm talking about. Before we make haste decisions about boycotting casinos run by a Russian, we must think twice or even ten times before doing so. Because committing such and participating in that kind of event also harms those people who are innocent. As you can see, not everyone is in favor of what Putin is doing. They are just victims as well of a harsh, aggressive, violent, Putin who is only after his own satisfaction, not thinking about what his constituents will feel about his decisions. Putin obviously lacks empathy which I believe most Russians have, because Russians have been protesting and voicing out their opinions and showing their stance about the war despite how negatively it could cost them later on.

Let's not let our emotions overpower our minds. We should not be swayed by hatred just like Putin and instead do our part in any way that we can to help both parties to overcome this. Both Ukrainians and Russians are a victim of an unempathethic leader and we should not be like him. Most of these casinos didn't do anything wrong. Aside from some who are just basically trash, let's spare them some mercy.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Lanatsa on March 15, 2022, 11:59:33 PM
I see from what happened between ukraine and russia is a humanitarian crisis...

I'm not defending the united states, it's just that what they are doing in afghanistan and syria is to fight the terrorists, if no one is against them then no other country cares about it.
Yemen is ok? There is no crisis there or may be terrorists were there? Saudi Arabia is fully democratic country? Why was destroyed Libya but we don`t here anything against Saudi Arabia even after Khashoggi murder?
I don`t care about sanctions, especially like this, but i am disgusted by such hypocrisy in the world nowadays.

DIXI
Why do you think all the muslim states are terrorists and the white skins are saving the world from the terrorists? As I mentioned above, the world has double standards. As mentioned in Shakespeare play as flies to wanton boys are we to Gods, they kill us for their sport. Seems like today everyone's life is in hand of war loads. No One knows when they will be killed next.
How can the above mentioned countries do a terrorist attack when they are not being able to defend themselves. Many of the weak countries are being suppressed by the superpowers because they have been the lord of the world and they have right to make rule according to their will and interest. The double standard of the world has costed the peace of the world. May we see the peaceful world in the days to come.
All we want is peace but it is something thats impossible to achieve considering that there would be countries or places which would really be tending to take the highest spot of the chain on where
there would be oppositions or will really be against on it and this is where conflict of interest would began and then further problems which might lead into war.
Ending up on decisions which would cost up innocent lives which it isnt really that worth to make problems.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: shawon01 on March 16, 2022, 02:29:13 PM
If I say here I am not saying to boycott the Bolobo Russia platform because there is no connection between the war and the actual platform site.  Doesn't look like one with this I think it needs to be distinguished between the Chuar platform site and the battle and when mixing like the battle platform here


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Lanatsa on March 16, 2022, 08:59:39 PM
I see from what happened between ukraine and russia is a humanitarian crisis...

I'm not defending the united states, it's just that what they are doing in afghanistan and syria is to fight the terrorists, if no one is against them then no other country cares about it.
Yemen is ok? There is no crisis there or may be terrorists were there? Saudi Arabia is fully democratic country? Why was destroyed Libya but we don`t here anything against Saudi Arabia even after Khashoggi murder?
I don`t care about sanctions, especially like this, but i am disgusted by such hypocrisy in the world nowadays.

DIXI
Why do you think all the muslim states are terrorists and the white skins are saving the world from the terrorists? As I mentioned above, the world has double standards. As mentioned in Shakespeare play as flies to wanton boys are we to Gods, they kill us for their sport. Seems like today everyone's life is in hand of war loads. No One knows when they will be killed next.
How can the above mentioned countries do a terrorist attack when they are not being able to defend themselves. Many of the weak countries are being suppressed by the superpowers because they have been the lord of the world and they have right to make rule according to their will and interest. The double standard of the world has costed the peace of the world. May we see the peaceful world in the days to come.
All we want is peace but it is something thats impossible to achieve considering that there would be countries or places which would really be tending to take the highest spot of the chain on where
there would be oppositions or will really be against on it and this is where conflict of interest would began and then further problems which might lead into war.
Ending up on decisions which would cost up innocent lives which it isnt really that worth to make problems.
Maybe we are not in line with what is happening in this world but we who have no power cannot do anything.
Those who commit massacres in the name of justice will get their own punishment because justice is not blind and it will surely come to them one day.
So we don't have to take it too seriously because that would make us kind of a fanatic or whatever.
It is better for us to contribute as good citizens and always help those around us who are in need.
I think that is more than enough and let the government take care of political issues, wars, etc., even though they are ambitious people.
As a normal citizen or part of the community then we couldnt really do something specially on political issues and other things just like you do mentioned on which it is really hard to see on situations that we cant do

something which somewhat do ease out the situation or been completely stopped which some organizations or institutions do make out some step even on small scale manner.
Decisioning on boycotting because they lived on the same or reside on that particular country isnt really that justifiable at least.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: traderethereum on March 17, 2022, 02:24:07 AM
As a normal citizen or part of the community then we couldnt really do something specially on political issues and other things just like you do mentioned on which it is really hard to see on situations that we cant do

something which somewhat do ease out the situation or been completely stopped which some organizations or institutions do make out some step even on small scale manner.
Decisioning on boycotting because they lived on the same or reside on that particular country isnt really that justifiable at least.
If it is about boycotts, maybe it was their people who could do it because they were forced to agree to what their leaders were doing.
We can only provide support to them by providing what they need, such as food, drink, and other basic needs that may reduce.
More than that, we might even get into trouble because it is outside our jurisdiction.
But I don't know, we can only hope for the best and hopefully, there will be a solution.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Reatim on March 17, 2022, 03:43:13 AM
If I say here I am not saying to boycott the Bolobo Russia platform because there is no connection between the war and the actual platform site.  Doesn't look like one with this I think it needs to be distinguished between the Chuar platform site and the battle and when mixing like the battle platform here
you always have your rights which site to play with and which to Boycott , what i wanna know is why supporting those sites? are you regular players of those casinos? if you are going to play with those then you must believe that supporting the listed  site would let the Russian government collect some funds to support their War against Ukraine.

OP,

What I want to ask is, if this boycott is successful, will it affect the peace between Russia and Ukraine...!

whether it will bring effect to the peace or not? at least we participate in a movement to stop the war .

Would you please stop spreading your Link all over the forum? why not create your own thread to Boost this site for every 24 hours?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Eureka_07 on March 17, 2022, 04:17:30 AM
If I say here I am not saying to boycott the Bolobo Russia platform because there is no connection between the war and the actual platform site.  Doesn't look like one with this I think it needs to be distinguished between the Chuar platform site and the battle and when mixing like the battle platform here
you always have your rights which site to play with and which to Boycott , what i wanna know is why supporting those sites? are you regular players of those casinos? if you are going to play with those then you must believe that supporting the listed  site would let the Russian government collect some funds to support their War against Ukraine.
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I'm always against war, but I do not think it is a right thing to do to "boycott" every Russian casino. I mean, there are possibly Russian online gambling site that operates really well and innocent (no scams, etc.) which gives good service to their customer. I do not think that they should also be directly affected by this war that started by their president Putin. However, I think it is true that the Russian government collects tax from these licensed casinos, in which can be used to fund their invasion.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: michellee on March 17, 2022, 06:18:19 AM
If I say here I am not saying to boycott the Bolobo Russia platform because there is no connection between the war and the actual platform site.  Doesn't look like one with this I think it needs to be distinguished between the Chuar platform site and the battle and when mixing like the battle platform here
you always have your rights which site to play with and which to Boycott , what i wanna know is why supporting those sites? are you regular players of those casinos? if you are going to play with those then you must believe that supporting the listed  site would let the Russian government collect some funds to support their War against Ukraine.
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I'm always against war, but I do not think it is a right thing to do to "boycott" every Russian casino. I mean, there are possibly Russian online gambling site that operates really well and innocent (no scams, etc.) which gives good service to their customer. I do not think that they should also be directly affected by this war that started by their president Putin. However, I think it is true that the Russian government collects tax from these licensed casinos, in which can be used to fund their invasion.
Everyone has their own way of choosing which gambling site they will use to gamble. After all, people are now smarter in choosing the gambling site so maybe we don't need to boycott the gambling sites in question, but we can just play on the sites that we have played and play with the choice of gambling sites you like.

Yes, Putin can levy taxes from these licensed casinos, especially since we know that Putin has the power to do that. So let the people choose what they want and rest assured, the war will stop soon.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: paxmao on March 17, 2022, 10:16:17 AM
If I say here I am not saying to boycott the Bolobo Russia platform because there is no connection between the war and the actual platform site.  Doesn't look like one with this I think it needs to be distinguished between the Chuar platform site and the battle and when mixing like the battle platform here
you always have your rights which site to play with and which to Boycott , what i wanna know is why supporting those sites? are you regular players of those casinos? if you are going to play with those then you must believe that supporting the listed  site would let the Russian government collect some funds to support their War against Ukraine.
<snip>

I'm always against war, but I do not think it is a right thing to do to "boycott" every Russian casino. I mean, there are possibly Russian online gambling site that operates really well and innocent (no scams, etc.) which gives good service to their customer. I do not think that they should also be directly affected by this war that started by their president Putin. However, I think it is true that the Russian government collects tax from these licensed casinos, in which can be used to fund their invasion.
Everyone has their own way of choosing which gambling site they will use to gamble. After all, people are now smarter in choosing the gambling site so maybe we don't need to boycott the gambling sites in question, but we can just play on the sites that we have played and play with the choice of gambling sites you like.

Yes, Putin can levy taxes from these licensed casinos, especially since we know that Putin has the power to do that. So let the people choose what they want and rest assured, the war will stop soon.

In fact Putin has made many companies that were having earning in foreign currency buy rubles forcibly or else. This means that if you play with bitcoin or with USD or with EUR in any Russian owned casino or even if you spend your money in any Russian owned company of any short your money will be going to finance Putin's economy of war and kill people.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Erdogan on March 17, 2022, 02:51:39 PM

Those sanctions is temporary only we know there are businesses that might hurt unto this but this is simple way to stop russian goverment on what they are doing right now.

That depends on those who give the sanction, what Russia did now is unacceptable anymore, with this war, they are killing innocent people, and sanctioning them is just even a minor punishment. It also depends on the belief of the people, others may condemn what they did while others understand why actions were committed.

Sanctions forced on Russia by other countries have a direct impact on the economy of country. The boycott that is being done here is to put pressure on companies, so casinos (that is, partially on society) to influence their government to change its mind and end the war. Russia has 146 million citizens, so such a huge community must have something to a say.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: michellee on March 17, 2022, 04:10:03 PM
In fact Putin has made many companies that were having earning in foreign currency buy rubles forcibly or else. This means that if you play with bitcoin or with USD or with EUR in any Russian owned casino or even if you spend your money in any Russian owned company of any short your money will be going to finance Putin's economy of war and kill people.
Yes, that's correct. We will see what will happen if Putin continues to force himself to do so. There is a possibility that Putin will not survive if all countries unite to stop the war. And as long as no political interest is going to have a different plan than stopping the war, I think it will work but otherwise, it will be difficult to succeed. Maybe not just casinos, but in other sectors, it can also be applied like that so that they will be powerless against the whole country's power.

Those sanctions is temporary only we know there are businesses that might hurt unto this but this is simple way to stop russian goverment on what they are doing right now. If their economy will be in huge risk for sure there will be a chance for them to think about settling all things for the sake of their own country. For now I expect many people outside those country will support this collective boycotting of Russian base casino and other business.
Yes, it is only temporary until the Russian government understands and realizes what is happening outside their country, especially the people in Ukraine. Hopefully, the sanctions can give hope to the people and stop the war that has claimed many victims from Ukraine. People in Russia can also protest their government as a result of the war decision so that it can awaken their government.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Jasad on March 17, 2022, 11:48:54 PM

Sanctions forced on Russia by other countries have a direct impact on the economy of country. The boycott that is being done here is to put pressure on companies, so casinos (that is, partially on society) to influence their government to change its mind and end the war. Russia has 146 million citizens, so such a huge community must have something to a say.

Until this time I don't think whatever has been said to Putin that he has listened to it because if he had then the war should be over by now. People who go to the streets of Russia to protest against the fight on Ukraine, they get arrested by the police and this tells you that Putin is still determined not to stop half way. Therefore the sanctions are not problem for him with his aim to destroy Ukraine.
We don't know the internal problem between Russia and Ukraine why have invasion until war and can't stopping until now, what ever problem I think will have way how to make peace between Russia and Ukraine, but I was disappointed with many punishment got by Russia exactly on sport and now try to boycott with Russian gambling site, is not fair gambling platform not have coherence with war have begin and they not support with war and never talking about war, why have ideas for boycott gambling platform from Russia, what their fault until have to boycott and I think is crazy recommended.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: bittraffic on March 18, 2022, 01:55:56 AM

Sanctions forced on Russia by other countries have a direct impact on the economy of country. The boycott that is being done here is to put pressure on companies, so casinos (that is, partially on society) to influence their government to change its mind and end the war. Russia has 146 million citizens, so such a huge community must have something to a say.

Until this time I don't think whatever has been said to Putin that he has listened to it because if he had then the war should be over by now. People who go to the streets of Russia to protest against the fight on Ukraine, they get arrested by the police and this tells you that Putin is still determined not to stop half way. Therefore the sanctions are not problem for him with his aim to destroy Ukraine.
We don't know the internal problem between Russia and Ukraine why have invasion until war and can't stopping until now, what ever problem I think will have way how to make peace between Russia and Ukraine, but I was disappointed with many punishment got by Russia exactly on sport and now try to boycott with Russian gambling site, is not fair gambling platform not have coherence with war have begin and they not support with war and never talking about war, why have ideas for boycott gambling platform from Russia, what their fault until have to boycott and I think is crazy recommended.

It's not a secret, it's all over the internet and youtube that Russia was also not guaranteed security about Ukraine joining NATO for democracy.
If you read and listen to youtube videos I think you will also somehow see why Putin finds it reasonable to invade Ukraine especially when they see NATO is supplying arms to Ukraine which allegedly they've also uncovered bio labs in Ukraine funded by the US. Maybe you can take this as the US did to Iraq for suspicion of WOMD as what the youtube videos compared it.

I'm not really convinced about democracy anymore because even in the US there is no democracy so why bring democracy half the world away when democracy can't even be seen in the US itself. But this time we can see boycotting Russian gambling platforms like it's a democratic thing to do.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: michellee on March 18, 2022, 02:07:17 AM

Yes, it is only temporary until the Russian government understands and realizes what is happening outside their country, especially the people in Ukraine. Hopefully, the sanctions can give hope to the people and stop the war that has claimed many victims from Ukraine. People in Russia can also protest their government as a result of the war decision so that it can awaken their government.
No use. Government only listens to their allies. They do what they want to do. I don't think government cares or listen to public opinion. Have they had, this war would have already came to an end. But Russia is going to face serious economic crisis after this war.
If the government does not listen to the complaints of its people and do what they want to do, it will only make the government lose the trust of the people because the people play a role in the economy of a country. Maybe the economic crisis has occurred in Russia at this time. Still, it is not too exaggerated by the media because we know the government has taken control of them. So it's just a matter of time to see everything explode and if that happens, maybe a lot of things will happen and it will change the country too.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: rodskee on March 18, 2022, 03:29:58 AM

Those sanctions is temporary only we know there are businesses that might hurt unto this but this is simple way to stop russian goverment on what they are doing right now.

That depends on those who give the sanction, what Russia did now is unacceptable anymore, with this war, they are killing innocent people, and sanctioning them is just even a minor punishment. It also depends on the belief of the people, others may condemn what they did while others understand why actions were committed.
That's it, the war for grabbing power are over , the world now is having Human rights that every individuals has their rights to be safer and live peaceful not even the super power country in the world.

Lets just all do our part guys, stop collaborating on the listed sites and also those gambling sites that we think comes from Russia, i know this is a business but we need to keep our humans safer and living peacefully .


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: swogerino on March 18, 2022, 10:14:17 AM

Those sanctions is temporary only we know there are businesses that might hurt unto this but this is simple way to stop russian goverment on what they are doing right now.

That depends on those who give the sanction, what Russia did now is unacceptable anymore, with this war, they are killing innocent people, and sanctioning them is just even a minor punishment. It also depends on the belief of the people, others may condemn what they did while others understand why actions were committed.
That's it, the war for grabbing power are over , the world now is having Human rights that every individuals has their rights to be safer and live peaceful not even the super power country in the world.

Lets just all do our part guys, stop collaborating on the listed sites and also those gambling sites that we think comes from Russia, i know this is a business but we need to keep our humans safer and living peacefully .


I am afraid that the sanctions are not at all temporary,even if the war stops right away I am pretty sure that most sanctions would still be going on for a certain amount of time until Russia realize its error has to be paid.Also 100% of businesses that are out of the Russian market most probably will never be back again there.The ongoing isolation will continue for a longer period which unfortunately will impact every single Russian citizen and they are already seeing some consequences right now with the most famous one being that man in the early days of this war saying "There is no dollar,only rubles,I don't want rubles,where are the dollars" and will be felt more and more as time passes.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Gozie51 on March 18, 2022, 03:37:30 PM

Lets just all do our part guys, stop collaborating on the listed sites and also those gambling sites that we think comes from Russia, i know this is a business but we need to keep our humans safer and living peacefully .


It is not only the casinos or gambling sites that are feeling the heat, other businesses are also suffering. Russia is planning to convert some into theirs while some are stopping their business in the shores of Russia. This is a hard time for Russian people and their economy will have serious after effects after the whole fight. The sanctions will definitely continue for a while because Russia has declared themselves as enemy of Europe and especially enemy of US and I'm sure US won't sleep with two eyes closed when it involves Russia.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: South Park on March 18, 2022, 08:25:12 PM
Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.

You see my friend, Russia was prepared else they would have stopped their troops when delegates were sent to make peace but even within that period, they were still penetrating the Ukraine. I'm really looking how this sanctions will end though it doesn't make sense for the innocent business to suffer because a leader was mislead by his factions.
Many people depend on their business to feed, give sanctions to the persons holding power and not the man who see politics as a dirty game.
Every single time we see on the news that the peace talks are moving forward but we do not see this at all reflected on the reality, as there is not a ceasefire and the Russian army keeps getting more aggressive not only against the Ukrainian Army but their citizens as well, so to me it is clear that Putin is not going to stop until he has complete control of Ukraine, and all of those supposed peace talks are nothing more but a tactic to make it seems as if the war can be stopped when he knows this is impossible.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Gozie51 on March 18, 2022, 11:04:53 PM
Every single time we see on the news that the peace talks are moving forward but we do not see this at all reflected on the reality, as there is not a ceasefire and the Russian army keeps getting more aggressive not only against the Ukrainian Army but their citizens as well, so to me it is clear that Putin is not going to stop until he has complete control of Ukraine, and all of those supposed peace talks are nothing more but a tactic to make it seems as if the war can be stopped when he knows this is impossible.

I think one of the reasons that the peace talk is still lingering is because of trust. The both countries are not trusting each other, after the first week of fight that Russia agreed to ceasefire to allow for evacuation of civilians but they were accused of not keeping to that promise. Russia is trying to be sure that Ukraine will keep to their agreement if finally reached and one of the agreement is for Ukraine not to join NATO or they continue to attack until they get Zelensky to run out of the country for them to occupy


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Cryptock on March 18, 2022, 11:53:10 PM
gambling platform not have coherence with war have begin and they not support with war and never talking about war, why have ideas for boycott gambling platform from Russia, what their fault until have to boycott and I think is crazy recommended.

Just listen to the speech of the mayor of Kyiv Vitali Klitschko (you can find them on YouTube). In many speeches he called for not to do business with Russia and Russian companies, because the money from these businesses goes to support this war.

This boycott is in response to his requests.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Peanutswar on March 19, 2022, 01:27:28 AM

Lets just all do our part guys, stop collaborating on the listed sites and also those gambling sites that we think comes from Russia, i know this is a business but we need to keep our humans safer and living peacefully .


It is not only the casinos or gambling sites that are feeling the heat, other businesses are also suffering. Russia is planning to convert some into theirs while some are stopping their business in the shores of Russia. This is a hard time for Russian people and their economy will have serious after effects after the whole fight. The sanctions will definitely continue for a while because Russia has declared themselves as enemy of Europe and especially enemy of US and I'm sure US won't sleep with two eyes closed when it involves Russia.

When the war starts the economy of both countries suffered even though they don't want to let this happen it's all about the decision of their president and the government itself even though they don't want it to happen because many lives getting affected and also the status of living such as the business they can't do anything many people of Russia makes sorry to the other country because they don't want this they just live freely but still the country who mistakes or declare war must need to punish for their damage given not only in the establishment.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: traderethereum on March 19, 2022, 03:58:48 AM
gambling platform not have coherence with war have begin and they not support with war and never talking about war, why have ideas for boycott gambling platform from Russia, what their fault until have to boycott and I think is crazy recommended.

Just listen to the speech of the mayor of Kyiv Vitali Klitschko (you can find them on YouTube). In many speeches he called for not to do business with Russia and Russian companies, because the money from these businesses goes to support this war.

This boycott is in response to his requests.
The speech from the mayor of Kyiv was very bold.
I wonder if the Russian government will take something from him or shut down his Youtube channel because it is one of the invitations that could result in declining revenues from Russian businesses spread across many countries.
But we have probably seen a lot of companies that have withdrawn from cooperation with Russia and chose to play it safe in this war situation.
Yes, that's normal because everyone wouldn't want to get involved in the war.
Maybe the boycott will expand until finally, no company will cooperate with Russia.
If that happens, then countries around the world need to be on the alert because Russia will do something about it.
Hopefully, the situation can gradually improve and help people who are still suffering.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Naficopa on March 19, 2022, 07:02:26 AM

Lets just all do our part guys, stop collaborating on the listed sites and also those gambling sites that we think comes from Russia, i know this is a business but we need to keep our humans safer and living peacefully .


It is not only the casinos or gambling sites that are feeling the heat, other businesses are also suffering. Russia is planning to convert some into theirs while some are stopping their business in the shores of Russia. This is a hard time for Russian people and their economy will have serious after effects after the whole fight. The sanctions will definitely continue for a while because Russia has declared themselves as enemy of Europe and especially enemy of US and I'm sure US won't sleep with two eyes closed when it involves Russia.

When the war starts the economy of both countries suffered even though they don't want to let this happen it's all about the decision of their president and the government itself even though they don't want it to happen because many lives getting affected and also the status of living such as the business they can't do anything many people of Russia makes sorry to the other country because they don't want this they just live freely but still the country who mistakes or declare war must need to punish for their damage given not only in the establishment.

Russian statistic sources say that 77% of Russians support Putin, his decisions and what is happening in Ukraine. It's hard to say if it's true knowing the possibilities of Russian propaganda. Anyway, the majority of Russians for sure support what is happening, and the sanctions and this boycott are to change these proportions and make people understand that they support evil things. I am sorry that it will make life worse for those Russians who are against this war, but they should understand that this boycott is created with good intentions, that is to save people in Ukraine.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Peanutswar on March 19, 2022, 07:05:09 AM

Lets just all do our part guys, stop collaborating on the listed sites and also those gambling sites that we think comes from Russia, i know this is a business but we need to keep our humans safer and living peacefully .


It is not only the casinos or gambling sites that are feeling the heat, other businesses are also suffering. Russia is planning to convert some into theirs while some are stopping their business in the shores of Russia. This is a hard time for Russian people and their economy will have serious after effects after the whole fight. The sanctions will definitely continue for a while because Russia has declared themselves as enemy of Europe and especially enemy of US and I'm sure US won't sleep with two eyes closed when it involves Russia.

When the war starts the economy of both countries suffered even though they don't want to let this happen it's all about the decision of their president and the government itself even though they don't want it to happen because many lives getting affected and also the status of living such as the business they can't do anything many people of Russia makes sorry to the other country because they don't want this they just live freely but still the country who mistakes or declare war must need to punish for their damage given not only in the establishment.

Russian statistic sources say that 77% of Russians support Putin, his decisions and what is happening in Ukraine. It's hard to say if it's true knowing the possibilities of Russian propaganda. Anyway, the majority of Russians for sure support what is happening, and the sanctions and this boycott are to change these proportions and make people understand that they support evil things. I am sorry that it will make life worse for those Russians who are against this war, but they should understand that this boycott is created with good intentions, that is to save people in Ukraine.

If that so only the people that support this war are the possibilities with this boycott because of course how about the others that would not want to have a war and suffer from their life, then they are having a wave of peace in their country this war happens well we cannot blame them because they don't want their country conquer and become under with other nations but still they need to consider the lives and capabilities of other people.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: og kush420 on March 19, 2022, 06:14:13 PM

Lets just all do our part guys, stop collaborating on the listed sites and also those gambling sites that we think comes from Russia, i know this is a business but we need to keep our humans safer and living peacefully .


It is not only the casinos or gambling sites that are feeling the heat, other businesses are also suffering. Russia is planning to convert some into theirs while some are stopping their business in the shores of Russia. This is a hard time for Russian people and their economy will have serious after effects after the whole fight. The sanctions will definitely continue for a while because Russia has declared themselves as enemy of Europe and especially enemy of US and I'm sure US won't sleep with two eyes closed when it involves Russia.
Week ago I heard in a local news channel- there are approx 310 business which are stopping their businesses and trades with Russia. But I am amazed what has happened to the world? Why there was silence earlier? Is there some other agenda behind it - I doubt all that bans would really affect Russian decisions on war!


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: ScamViruS on March 19, 2022, 06:27:56 PM
Week ago I heard in a local news channel- there are approx 310 business which are stopping their businesses and trades with Russia. But I am amazed what has happened to the world? Why there was silence earlier? Is there some other agenda behind it - I doubt all that bans would really affect Russian decisions on war!

Russia is not stopping its aggression in Ukraine, despite so many bans. Whether the bans are planned or not, it is true that Russia has attacked Ukraine and Russia is receiving these bans and sanctions for their unnecessary activities. Now these bans may not change Putin's war decision, but these bans will have a big impact on the Russian people, and they already understand that. So in the coming days it may be understood how much Russia has lost economically in other sectors including gambling.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: stomachgrowls on March 19, 2022, 06:41:50 PM
Week ago I heard in a local news channel- there are approx 310 business which are stopping their businesses and trades with Russia. But I am amazed what has happened to the world? Why there was silence earlier? Is there some other agenda behind it - I doubt all that bans would really affect Russian decisions on war!

Russia is not stopping its aggression in Ukraine, despite so many bans. Whether the bans are planned or not, it is true that Russia has attacked Ukraine and Russia is receiving these bans and sanctions for their unnecessary activities. Now these bans may not change Putin's war decision, but these bans will have a big impact on the Russian people, and they already understand that. So in the coming days it may be understood how much Russia has lost economically in other sectors including gambling.
The war is still ongoing and lots of citizens is already feeling out the consequences on what their leader have done.
Here's some latest news on which Ukrain urges China to condemn Russia?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/18/biden-warns-china-xi-against-aiding-russia-in-ukraine-liveblog

I dont think that China would just easily make out such decision.They do know that they could highly influenced Putin's mind but they do
know on what would be the effects if they would do it.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Theones on March 19, 2022, 07:08:10 PM
Week ago I heard in a local news channel- there are approx 310 business which are stopping their businesses and trades with Russia. But I am amazed what has happened to the world? Why there was silence earlier? Is there some other agenda behind it - I doubt all that bans would really affect Russian decisions on war!

Russia is not stopping its aggression in Ukraine, despite so many bans. Whether the bans are planned or not, it is true that Russia has attacked Ukraine and Russia is receiving these bans and sanctions for their unnecessary activities. Now these bans may not change Putin's war decision, but these bans will have a big impact on the Russian people, and they already understand that. So in the coming days it may be understood how much Russia has lost economically in other sectors including gambling.
Does people option matter in war? I believe not. When the whole world is still suffering with post corona war. There is inflation in the whole world. Where the business hardly surviving there is yet another unwelcomed war. Which has affected so much. We are in very dangerous time. The gambling is not a very important department I am concerned about the department which really matter like automobile and aircraft and online platforms,.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 20, 2022, 04:45:24 AM
These bans are going to affect the economy of Russia a long way. I wonder sometime. Are the Russians out from the post Corona fight already so they decided to have another war imposed on themselves. This is a huge economical loose as well. How are they going to come back from all the mess they have self created?
Maybe Russia has come out of Corona and they want to show their power by attacking Ukraine to the point of causing many war casualties in Ukraine and the Russian army. If Russia doesn't stop the war soon, other countries will not stand still and maybe they will put pressure on Russia to stop the war soon. But we don't know when the war will end and how the Russians will bring back the mess they created before. It wasn't easy for Ukraine and Russia but the war badly damaged Ukraine. Boycotts have been carried out by other countries hoping that the war will end soon.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: bittraffic on March 20, 2022, 04:50:10 AM
Every single time we see on the news that the peace talks are moving forward but we do not see this at all reflected on the reality, as there is not a ceasefire and the Russian army keeps getting more aggressive not only against the Ukrainian Army but their citizens as well, so to me it is clear that Putin is not going to stop until he has complete control of Ukraine, and all of those supposed peace talks are nothing more but a tactic to make it seems as if the war can be stopped when he knows this is impossible.

I think one of the reasons that the peace talk is still lingering is because of trust. The both countries are not trusting each other, after the first week of fight that Russia agreed to ceasefire to allow for evacuation of civilians but they were accused of not keeping to that promise. Russia is trying to be sure that Ukraine will keep to their agreement if finally reached and one of the agreement is for Ukraine not to join NATO or they continue to attack until they get Zelensky to run out of the country for them to occupy

I actually thought these peace talks is just to give them time to take good fine dining and have sex with thier girls. After that, back again to shooting. Zelensky is just out there trying to access the exchanges waiting for BTC to go all-time high.

Once the food supply and the champagne to drink, he may already surrender while keeping the seed phrase in his head of his BTC wallet which comes from the Ukraine government's money.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Odusko on March 20, 2022, 05:09:57 AM
This call for a boycott of Russia's gambling sites may not change anything about Rusia decision to keep invading Ukraine and the possible restoration of peace between the two countries, but the world needs to stand up against this unwarranted tension all over the world because of this Rusia invasion because it will not take long before the attack get extended to another part of the globe if nothing is done to stop it now.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Kakmakr on March 20, 2022, 11:53:23 AM
This call for a boycott of Russia's gambling sites may not change anything about Rusia decision to keep invading Ukraine and the possible restoration of peace between the two countries, but the world needs to stand up against this unwarranted tension all over the world because of this Rusia invasion because it will not take long before the attack get extended to another part of the globe if nothing is done to stop it now.

It is not going to change the decision not to make war, but it will help that the funding for the war will dry up eventually. All Russian businesses pay taxes and the taxes are used to fund the war. Also, the Russian people that supports this war, will feel the burden of that war in their pockets, because the economy will start to suffer as a result.

The only problem is.... nobody wins in a war... and the innocent (people who does not support the war) suffer the most. So let's make sure we understand the decision and identify the people that supports this war.  ;)


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: judeafante on March 20, 2022, 03:06:05 PM

In 1986 when Russian had a war. Their economy dropped to an extreme. And the government collapsed. This time it is more serious than before. But government did survive. Putin is a smart man. I am sure he would have a back up plan to deal with all what is coming up. But I am very sure - the world is not going have bad  terms with Russia - it is a big country and has a big market. But at this time - the important thing is safety of everyone.

What war was that is it the Afghan Russian war, this is a totally different scenario the world is now united in crimpling Russia's economy and will try to cut down aids, cash flow, and arms and ammunition, I don't know what kind of back up plan is that all we know is he is losing backing from his billionaire crony, his generals are dying and he cannot keep up with supply and the world is indirectly helping Ukraine, he is now considered a war criminal and it's only a matter of time before he and his army crumble.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: macson on March 20, 2022, 03:20:42 PM
I disagree with your ideas and asking for boycott of all Russian gambling platforms because is not any connected between war and gambling platform site, many people spent much money on Russian gambling platform site and they not care with war and never have Russian citizen looks agree with this war, I think have to make it different between gambling platform site and war, you looks as politician when mixing between war and gambling platform because all people try lucky with gambling and never car with politician situation around the world.
Openly it doesn't see the rulers of gambling sites in Russia who are involved in the war but behind it, there may be.  we cannot deny that there are also many influential people in Russia who run gambling businesses outside their countries and are even affiliated with gambling sites in other countries, so it's very difficult now to stamp, is a gambling site only owned by someone from the country where it comes from!  but i personally do not support a boycott of gambling sites originating from Russia.



Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: michellee on March 20, 2022, 03:45:30 PM
This call for a boycott of Russia's gambling sites may not change anything about Rusia decision to keep invading Ukraine and the possible restoration of peace between the two countries, but the world needs to stand up against this unwarranted tension all over the world because of this Rusia invasion because it will not take long before the attack get extended to another part of the globe if nothing is done to stop it now.
It may not change anything but it is hoped that with the boycott, the supply for war, such as buying weapons, will be reduced and can stop the war, maybe temporarily or even forever. So it might also be useful to force a subtle cessation of the war. Moreover, it can also reduce casualties from both sides, which will continue to fall if the war continues.

The world cannot stand alone without support from all countries. It could be a form of effort to stop the war. So, in this case, we all need to provide support to help victims of war.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Erdogan on March 20, 2022, 11:58:10 PM
The sanction had affect mostly the Russians market and many Investors, companies had started leaving to seek for a better place. The aggression of Russians government on Ukraine was an abolished approach which had made many governments of the world frown at such act. Planes from Russian had been ban in most European countries, trying hard to cut off businesses from them.

It was not the sanctions that hit the Russian economy and companies the most, but the Russian aggression itself and the beginning of the war. Already in the first days of the war, the price of Russian ruble began to dive, the value of Russian companies on the stock exchange fell by as much as 90%, even before sanctions by western countries were introduced.
This boycott is not aimed directly at the Russian government, but at companies that pay taxes in Russia and with the money from these taxes the war is supported.



Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: michellee on March 21, 2022, 03:12:06 AM
So far, the west seems too flabbergasted to act or react beyond imposing economic sanctions on Russia and condemning Putins deadly game of political brinkmanship. This is because the cost and risk of a war with Russia far outweighs the benefits, especially when a direct military encounter with moscow can accelerate into a world war III and result in a disaster.
It is normal for the West to act or overreact, given that Russia has shown no reduction in its troops on the battlefield. All of them may be trying to stop the war because if the war continues and Putin continues to deploy his war fleet and his allies' help, it could trigger world war III. If world war III were to occur, the consequences would be more deadly than the previous ones because now each strong country has many biological weapons that can be deadly from a distance.

If the sanctions imposed on Russia could weaken the war supplies, it could hope that the war could stop because Putin also has to think about what would happen if he lacked a fleet.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: bitterguy28 on March 21, 2022, 09:46:08 AM
I disagree with your ideas and asking for boycott of all Russian gambling platforms because is not any connected between war and gambling platform site, many people spent much money on Russian gambling platform site and they not care with war and never have Russian citizen looks agree with this war, I think have to make it different between gambling platform site and war, you looks as politician when mixing between war and gambling platform because all people try lucky with gambling and never car with politician situation around the world.
Openly it doesn't see the rulers of gambling sites in Russia who are involved in the war but behind it, there may be.  we cannot deny that there are also many influential people in Russia who run gambling businesses outside their countries and are even affiliated with gambling sites in other countries, so it's very difficult now to stamp, is a gambling site only owned by someone from the country where it comes from!  but i personally do not support a boycott of gambling sites originating from Russia.


It is your prerogative mate , because it is our action towards reality and I know that Boycotting may or may not effect the war and only effect the businesses and of course the Employee.
But what i wanna know here is that do we really help the Ukraine from our actions here? or we are just trying to help but the truth is there is nothing we can do by just this boycott action?
Hope that in the further views and reality? we are truly making this all sensible and helping the majority of whom who needs Help like Ukraine and the affecting country .


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: crzy on March 21, 2022, 08:38:10 PM
Can't Russia just call it an aggressive invasion of Ukraine so that the whole world could just rest, both football clubs and so many businesses owned and operated by Russian citizens are facing international sanctions, let there be a negotiation between the two countries.

If Russia wanted to negotiate, it would start with them and not attack by surprise. Putin simply did not expect Ukraine to defend itself so fiercely. He was not prepared for it, and now he is ashamed to admit his mistake and back off. I think he will not let go, so any peaceful way of putting pressure on Russia is good, so we should support boycotts like this.
Peace talk should still be the option so let’s hope for this to finally happen.
I think I don’t need to Boycott Russian gambling site because I’m not familiar with it and looking at the list, I can’t see any top crypto gambling site there so most probably I’m safe and free from hate. Boycotting those site can really affect many people, I hope Russia is seeing this since many businesses and jobs are losing on their country.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: ipanks on March 22, 2022, 04:24:33 AM
As long as the Russian government does not change its mind to stop the war, the people will continue to be its victims and more and more will suffer. We will never know what governments of other countries will do apart from boycotting gambling platforms or other businesses but what is clear, the consequences of all that will surely be felt in Russia and again, the people will feel it first.

There may be more than that number already arrested by the Russian government for protesting the war because the Russian government must have edited the actual number. The media seems to be silenced by the government and they are forced only to spread the news that supports their government.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Fortify on March 22, 2022, 07:39:41 AM
We are surly in very dangerous time – It is heart breaking what is going on around the world. The world has Already lost millions of lives to Corona and we all are suffering the after affect of Covid. Now the economic instability is a big bomb dropped on the whole world. Everyday lots of people are fleeing for survival. I hope we see the dawn of peace – real soon!
Do you think there is any need in boycotting these gambling platforms that are owned by Russians because they are not responsible for this incidents? Yes, I don't think they should be punish for all these. I heard there was about 80K Russians that was arrested for protesting against the war that had affected the Ukrainian economy. We should not join others in this kind of sanctions. Maybe there should be a better way to get this done, although Russian afflicted so much damages on Ukrainian soil.

80k? in a country of 144 million is a fraction of a percent and I do wonder if it was that high. The sad truth is that Russian's have been fed and brainwashed by the state propaganda, through the government controlled media, for such a long time that having any other opinion is very difficult. It seems that most Russian people are willful idiots who agree with what is happening, so the only way to get through to them the sheer absurdity of this war is heavy economic sanctions. It seems wise for all crypto related businesses to take action against Russian users, at least if they want any connection with customers in Europe or North America, otherwise they might get stung themselves with accusations of sanctions evasion.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: og kush420 on March 22, 2022, 09:16:14 PM
Can't Russia just call it an aggressive invasion of Ukraine so that the whole world could just rest, both football clubs and so many businesses owned and operated by Russian citizens are facing international sanctions, let there be a negotiation between the two countries.
Remember we were given a topic to write an essay on during high school. If you were a PM of the country what would you do.
The same came to my mind - If you were the president of Russia. What precautionary measure would you have taken to save your state?


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 23, 2022, 02:05:40 PM

In 1986 when Russian had a war. Their economy dropped to an extreme. And the government collapsed. This time it is more serious than before. But government did survive. Putin is a smart man. I am sure he would have a back up plan to deal with all what is coming up. But I am very sure - the world is not going have bad  terms with Russia - it is a big country and has a big market. But at this time - the important thing is safety of everyone.

What war was that is it the Afghan Russian war, this is a totally different scenario the world is now united in crimpling Russia's economy and will try to cut down aids, cash flow, and arms and ammunition, I don't know what kind of back up plan is that all we know is he is losing backing from his billionaire crony, his generals are dying and he cannot keep up with supply and the world is indirectly helping Ukraine, he is now considered a war criminal and it's only a matter of time before he and his army crumble.
Well you're right, what happens is that Russia for that year when those events occurred there was another way of living or the events of that time were not identical to those of now, for now Russia has very kind relations with the Chinese government and is very It is likely that China will support Russia and not let them go into total decline, considering that China is very well in its economy, it will not let Russia fall, and this it does because we all know that if Russia manages to have control about Ukraine because China will take control in Taiwan and the one who will have to help it will be Russia, so it is not surprising that this commercial exchange and friendship.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: rodskee on March 24, 2022, 11:04:48 AM

Those sanctions is temporary only we know there are businesses that might hurt unto this but this is simple way to stop russian goverment on what they are doing right now.

That depends on those who give the sanction, what Russia did now is unacceptable anymore, with this war, they are killing innocent people, and sanctioning them is just even a minor punishment. It also depends on the belief of the people, others may condemn what they did while others understand why actions were committed.
That's it, the war for grabbing power are over , the world now is having Human rights that every individuals has their rights to be safer and live peaceful not even the super power country in the world.

Lets just all do our part guys, stop collaborating on the listed sites and also those gambling sites that we think comes from Russia, i know this is a business but we need to keep our humans safer and living peacefully .


I am afraid that the sanctions are not at all temporary,even if the war stops right away I am pretty sure that most sanctions would still be going on for a certain amount of time until Russia realize its error has to be paid.Also 100% of businesses that are out of the Russian market most probably will never be back again there.The ongoing isolation will continue for a longer period which unfortunately will impact every single Russian citizen and they are already seeing some consequences right now with the most famous one being that man in the early days of this war saying "There is no dollar,only rubles,I don't want rubles,where are the dollars" and will be felt more and more as time passes.
well yeah maybe there are chances that those sanctions around the world will stay longer after the war , because there are thousands of lives that ends just because of this.
and this happens just because of a decision of single person and now ends happy lives and destroy living of many people.
I hate war and i hate the president of the country that started this war.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Cryptock on March 24, 2022, 11:32:30 AM

Regarding whether a boycott of Russian casinos is necessary, in my opinion anything that can help speed up the end of this war is good, so this initiative is also good.

The purpose of these sanctions and boycotts is to stop the war. There is no need for them to stay when the war is over. However, it is certain that their effects will surely be felt in Russia for a long time after this war. How long after the war is over, Russia will feel it now depends on their decision to stop aggression against Ukraine. The sooner they end this war, the better for them.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Theones on March 27, 2022, 09:58:36 AM

In 1986 when Russian had a war. Their economy dropped to an extreme. And the government collapsed. This time it is more serious than before. But government did survive. Putin is a smart man. I am sure he would have a back up plan to deal with all what is coming up. But I am very sure - the world is not going have bad  terms with Russia - it is a big country and has a big market. But at this time - the important thing is safety of everyone.

What war was that is it the Afghan Russian war, this is a totally different scenario the world is now united in crimpling Russia's economy and will try to cut down aids, cash flow, and arms and ammunition, I don't know what kind of back up plan is that all we know is he is losing backing from his billionaire crony, his generals are dying and he cannot keep up with supply and the world is indirectly helping Ukraine, he is now considered a war criminal and it's only a matter of time before he and his army crumble.
Well you're right, what happens is that Russia for that year when those events occurred there was another way of living or the events of that time were not identical to those of now, for now Russia has very kind relations with the Chinese government and is very It is likely that China will support Russia and not let them go into total decline, considering that China is very well in its economy, it will not let Russia fall, and this it does because we all know that if Russia manages to have control about Ukraine because China will take control in Taiwan and the one who will have to help it will be Russia, so it is not surprising that this commercial exchange and friendship.

Did you know - I was unaware of China and Taiwan tension, till the release of Fast and furious and Jon Sina apologizing for calling Taiwan a country. It was a big mistake on his part which costed movie so much. One word and boom, what a mess it created.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: og kush420 on March 27, 2022, 12:26:27 PM

Those sanctions is temporary only we know there are businesses that might hurt unto this but this is simple way to stop russian goverment on what they are doing right now.

That depends on those who give the sanction, what Russia did now is unacceptable anymore, with this war, they are killing innocent people, and sanctioning them is just even a minor punishment. It also depends on the belief of the people, others may condemn what they did while others understand why actions were committed.
That's it, the war for grabbing power are over , the world now is having Human rights that every individuals has their rights to be safer and live peaceful not even the super power country in the world.

Lets just all do our part guys, stop collaborating on the listed sites and also those gambling sites that we think comes from Russia, i know this is a business but we need to keep our humans safer and living peacefully .


I am afraid that the sanctions are not at all temporary,even if the war stops right away I am pretty sure that most sanctions would still be going on for a certain amount of time until Russia realize its error has to be paid.Also 100% of businesses that are out of the Russian market most probably will never be back again there.The ongoing isolation will continue for a longer period which unfortunately will impact every single Russian citizen and they are already seeing some consequences right now with the most famous one being that man in the early days of this war saying "There is no dollar,only rubles,I don't want rubles,where are the dollars" and will be felt more and more as time passes.
well yeah maybe there are chances that those sanctions around the world will stay longer after the war , because there are thousands of lives that ends just because of this.
and this happens just because of a decision of single person and now ends happy lives and destroy living of many people.
I hate war and i hate the president of the country that started this war.
You made  a very valid point - that so many lives have been lost for this unnecessary war. Peace talks are always the option and it would help saving so much trauma, both physical and mental. I wish we don't see this war lingering long. and wish and pray for safety and security of all the people around the world. Ameen




Lets just all do our part guys, stop collaborating on the listed sites and also those gambling sites that we think comes from Russia, i know this is a business but we need to keep our humans safer and living peacefully .


It is not only the casinos or gambling sites that are feeling the heat, other businesses are also suffering. Russia is planning to convert some into theirs while some are stopping their business in the shores of Russia. This is a hard time for Russian people and their economy will have serious after effects after the whole fight. The sanctions will definitely continue for a while because Russia has declared themselves as enemy of Europe and especially enemy of US and I'm sure US won't sleep with two eyes closed when it involves Russia.
The war is not only the weapon war - it is going to be intense, so many other people and professionals will join in. I am amazed to see this has anyone gone through this news as well? Will like to know  what are your thought about it.

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Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: South Park on March 27, 2022, 07:23:03 PM
Every single time we see on the news that the peace talks are moving forward but we do not see this at all reflected on the reality, as there is not a ceasefire and the Russian army keeps getting more aggressive not only against the Ukrainian Army but their citizens as well, so to me it is clear that Putin is not going to stop until he has complete control of Ukraine, and all of those supposed peace talks are nothing more but a tactic to make it seems as if the war can be stopped when he knows this is impossible.

I think one of the reasons that the peace talk is still lingering is because of trust. The both countries are not trusting each other, after the first week of fight that Russia agreed to ceasefire to allow for evacuation of civilians but they were accused of not keeping to that promise. Russia is trying to be sure that Ukraine will keep to their agreement if finally reached and one of the agreement is for Ukraine not to join NATO or they continue to attack until they get Zelensky to run out of the country for them to occupy
Most likely this is another point of contention between the Russian and the Ukrainian delegations, after all I find it difficult to believe that the Russiasn after all what they have done are going to allow Zelenskyy to remain in power when most likely he will have a confrontational attitude against Russia due all of what has happened between them, so most likely Russia wants to put in place a puppet or at least someone that is not as antagonistic as Zelenskyy.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: retreat on March 27, 2022, 09:58:40 PM
Peace talk should still be the option so let’s hope for this to finally happen.
I think I don’t need to Boycott Russian gambling site because I’m not familiar with it and looking at the list, I can’t see any top crypto gambling site there so most probably I’m safe and free from hate. Boycotting those site can really affect many people, I hope Russia is seeing this since many businesses and jobs are losing on their country.
when we talk about humanity, we must not see which country the person is from. Indeed, the Russian government has attacked Ukraine, but the boycott that will occur later on Russian gambling sites will only make employees who depend on these sites for their lives will be fired because the company cannot pay their salaries. boycott will never be effective.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: og kush420 on April 02, 2022, 03:30:42 PM
Peace talk should still be the option so let’s hope for this to finally happen.
I think I don’t need to Boycott Russian gambling site because I’m not familiar with it and looking at the list, I can’t see any top crypto gambling site there so most probably I’m safe and free from hate. Boycotting those site can really affect many people, I hope Russia is seeing this since many businesses and jobs are losing on their country.
when we talk about humanity, we must not see which country the person is from. Indeed, the Russian government has attacked Ukraine, but the boycott that will occur later on Russian gambling sites will only make employees who depend on these sites for their lives will be fired because the company cannot pay their salaries. boycott will never be effective.
There is already so much mess in the world. The misery, stress, hunger and sickness that people don't want to have another self imposed war on them. Who would want to destroy a beautiful land and then it would take century to rebuilt the nation again - the stains of the war are long lasting almost 4 millions people flee from Ukraine. Where did they go? May we all see peaceful days.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: Theones on April 04, 2022, 04:27:07 PM

Regarding whether a boycott of Russian casinos is necessary, in my opinion anything that can help speed up the end of this war is good, so this initiative is also good.

The purpose of these sanctions and boycotts is to stop the war. There is no need for them to stay when the war is over. However, it is certain that their effects will surely be felt in Russia for a long time after this war. How long after the war is over, Russia will feel it now depends on their decision to stop aggression against Ukraine. The sooner they end this war, the better for them.
Many people flee from both Russia and Ukraine - there is trouble in both the countries, People will see the affect of the war on both the side.
People are facing trouble in Russia and People are facing trouble in Ukraine as well. War is never the solution.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: mm2543363580 on April 04, 2022, 04:51:06 PM


and this happens just because of a decision of single person and now ends happy lives and destroy living of many people.
I hate war and i hate the president of the country that started this war.
We are still not out of the corona war yet. People have suffered so much and then the after affects of this war will last on the world for long.
I am not in the favour of war as well. It is heartbreaking to see how the infrastructure has been destroyed and how the innocent lives has been lost.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: South Park on April 04, 2022, 09:08:05 PM
We are still not out of the corona war yet. People have suffered so much and then the after affects of this war will last on the world for long.
I am not in the favour of war as well. It is heartbreaking to see how the infrastructure has been destroyed and how the innocent lives has been lost.
While I think the majority of the people oppose the war in principle the fact that we had yet to recover from the pandemic made this many times worse, such a war would have had world effects anyway but when we add the pandemic on top of that then the effects got multiplied many times over, so people all over the world are suffering because of the events that are happening at Ukraine that had nothing to do with them, so I can understand why so many people are mad with the Russian government and they are planning to boycott anything that has even the smallest connection to Russia.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: romero121 on April 04, 2022, 11:06:26 PM


and this happens just because of a decision of single person and now ends happy lives and destroy living of many people.
I hate war and i hate the president of the country that started this war.
We are still not out of the corona war yet. People have suffered so much and then the after affects of this war will last on the world for long.
I am not in the favour of war as well. It is heartbreaking to see how the infrastructure has been destroyed and how the innocent lives has been lost.
The vigorous spread of covid-19 have slowed down. In most of the countries the usage of mask, sanitizer and practice of social distancing isn't needed anymore. This can be followed on individuals interest and not compulsory. If the war have been started few months back, this could've been a much bigger suffering for both the country people.

Even now things are going worse with time, after several round of talks the solution to end the war isn't attained. People are sufferers, so the officials and president doesn't mind of taking immediate steps to stop the war.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: arwin100 on April 04, 2022, 11:12:59 PM
We are still not out of the corona war yet. People have suffered so much and then the after affects of this war will last on the world for long.
I am not in the favour of war as well. It is heartbreaking to see how the infrastructure has been destroyed and how the innocent lives has been lost.
While I think the majority of the people oppose the war in principle the fact that we had yet to recover from the pandemic made this many times worse, such a war would have had world effects anyway but when we add the pandemic on top of that then the effects got multiplied many times over, so people all over the world are suffering because of the events that are happening at Ukraine that had nothing to do with them, so I can understand why so many people are mad with the Russian government and they are planning to boycott anything that has even the smallest connection to Russia.

But in other hand while those sanctions happening we don't see Russia got intimidated nor affected to much on sanctions and other boycotting antics made by the people who didn't support their cause. Right now its time to reconciling the war in Ukraine is not much creating a noise to globally also I think they are now thinking about discussing a peace talk so I guess its good to slow down those boycotting and let them realize that this time is good to repair things what's broken unto them.


Title: Re: Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms
Post by: South Park on April 12, 2022, 08:19:24 PM
While I think the majority of the people oppose the war in principle the fact that we had yet to recover from the pandemic made this many times worse, such a war would have had world effects anyway but when we add the pandemic on top of that then the effects got multiplied many times over, so people all over the world are suffering because of the events that are happening at Ukraine that had nothing to do with them, so I can understand why so many people are mad with the Russian government and they are planning to boycott anything that has even the smallest connection to Russia.

But in other hand while those sanctions happening we don't see Russia got intimidated nor affected to much on sanctions and other boycotting antics made by the people who didn't support their cause. Right now its time to reconciling the war in Ukraine is not much creating a noise to globally also I think they are now thinking about discussing a peace talk so I guess its good to slow down those boycotting and let them realize that this time is good to repair things what's broken unto them.
I think that it is going to be difficult to see the sanctions being completely lifted unless Russia stopped the invasion of Ukraine, it relinquished any control over Ukrainian territory and Putin stopped being the president, and since I do not see anything like that happening soon then most likely the sanctions will continue, and it is a shame as the war that is going on is completely senseless and it could have been easily avoided if both parties decided to talk about it and eventually get to an agreement, but now it is too late for something like that.