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I have been into trading from the beginning of 2020 and it is 2 years now, I have been losing right from the start up to now. I have read it before that most traders later become swing traders after many losses, I have becoming to think this is true because I have been losing ever since.

I have seen the market to be volatile for two years now, I have made some analyses to later know that swing trading is better than scalping and day trading, I can be wrong but I am right that most traders will make profit in swing trading than scalping and day traidng because the later are riskier.

This is not about swing trading though but about scalping and day trading, are you making profit from it? Maximum number of votes is 3 for each and everyone.

Voted I am making money from both, but I regret it now and I can changed it I should have also checked I am not making money from both. It really depends on the situation and time, there are times that I don't make money from both scalping and day trading and there are times that I make good profit from both, but if you are asking in general like if I am earning more rather than losing I can't answer it since I can't tracked my trades from the start and some of the time I do swing trades and long term holds.

I choose as @joeperry did as I am not making a profit every time I trade because I am not a day trader or scalper but tend to swing trader because I always try to buy and hold for a while and then sell when the price goes up. There is no need to go up too high but enough for me to make a profit.

I think this can minimize losses for traders who do not have much time to analyze the course of the market. But it also depends on the coin that we will buy because if the coin can't move for a long time, we can't sell it for a long time either.

If I haven't made a profit from the coins I bought a while ago, I guess I can still hold on to it while waiting for the price to go up. And it has worked on several occasions. But I've also tried scalping trading and at that time, the speed of the coins to move was so good that I was able to get a decent profit in a few trades.

It goes back to each trader as to what method works for them and it will probably take some time before you find out which one is right for you.

Also @joeperry

What I have been noticing is that even swing trading can bring patience to make people to trade at the right time, this has been the key reason for you people no to be losing, unlike focusing on only short term ones like scalping and day trading. It is true that the market can go wrong and can take a very long time before correction, swing traders could have been losing a lot of money but which will be corrected and can result to gain. The advantage of the market is that it fluctuates in the both directions but swing traders may not have any profit until weeks and that is what swing trading is.

I will like if people can be specific on just scalping and day trading, for us to know if some people are trading in that very short time and making profit.

Don't lie!

I earned a lot from trading and lost a lot from trading as well. Additionally, with 5 years in crypto market, I can say from my experience that trading is not for all but investment is for all or most of us. Fast comes fast goes, it is about trading. Because if you don't have ability to be disciplined and determined with your actions as responses to price actions, I am sure you will lose all capital and temporary profit very easily.

With investment, it is much more easily. You only have to choose good projects, hold and wait for good price to sell. Challenge in investment is most investors take profit at minor earnings and regret. Then enter again, and stucked at peaks, ATHs.  :)

These days it's very hard to analyze the market it's different compared to the past. I'm doing scalping and yes I can make a profit but it depends on the market condition.
I also experience to lose but it's a part of learning process to grow. I never had experienced day trading but I think its very risky. There is no good and bad trading strategy you need to study the market and do some test before you trade. I do mostly holding coins for a week before I trade because I can save more trading fee compared on day trading.


That's the problem there are many projects out there but most of them are bluff they promise that they will grow but after a few months their gone and no promises are fulfilled.
So investing in new projects is more risky than trading.

However, if you are lucky that you invested in a real project then yeah you will gain a great profit holding their token/coins.

I am not surprised that at the start of this, the "I am not making money" parts are a bit stronger. The average person doesn't make profit from either of these things. The 70% of traders do not make money from stock markets, meaning it could be similar in crypto as well, we do not have the data for it but I assume it is similar. Which shows us that minority of the people make the most money. It is said that 80-20 rule "may" apply here, not guaranteed but that is what we estimate.

It means 80 percent of the people get the 20 percent of the money whereas 20 percent of the people get the 80 percent of the money. Is that true? I do not know, but calculated estimations show that it could be true.

Scalping and day trading isnt for everyone and amongst all of the type of trading then this is one is more risky but somewhat dealing with leverage and futures is more riskier or gambling like but speaking with spot

then scalping/daytrade is the most hardest type of trading yet you do need to deal off with volatility on very active manner which not all would be having the skills on doing so.

Even myself do still have a hard time on taking a good grasps but somehow due to skills and knowledge with spot trades even on swing/trend type of trading then you do at least have
the idea which is more better compared to those who are just starting up.

The poll shows that people are not earning from scalping and day trading. But there are people that can take advantage and earn profit from this type of trading. It depends on the strategy of the trader himself. But if you are a trader and you're not earning or just earning a very little profit, maybe, it is time to think about changing your strategy or means of approach in crypto. Scalping is not for all. If your tactic is not working, better change it fast before you incur negative profit.

You don't earn that much from day and scalping tbh, it's more like you lose a lot more instead. I've had my own experience when doing day trading and it was honestly hell. Even if I profited, it was rather minuscule from what I recall. Probably because I was mostly bad at it, but you can't deny that even then, the chances of both winning and losing trade are pretty close to each other so you'd mostly end up close to zero profit at the end of the day. Was one of the main reasons why I just switched to doing DCA.

There were few times I wanted to scalp but later resulted to day trading because I have lost already in scalping, I also noticed the greater the losses are most likely to be. I have lost this ways as usual, but I have recently noticed when I turned it into swing trading, I will still later gain. Like what happened recently, bitcoin increased from $34300 to over $41000, I opened short position at $41000 for the market to fall so that I will make profit. But bitcoin increased to $45000 and I lose the more, I left the it alone unlike before that I will close the trade and lose, it took 5 days which was yesterday and the market falled below $40000 and I gained. I gained from swing trading while losing in scalping and day trading.

I prefer to invest in existing coin or token which I know is legit and having good marketcap already, some of this coins can still be able to go 5x or 10x in the coming years. New projects can be very risky and I am not the type of person that invest in such new projects, but there are some that increased very well but just few of them while many resulted to losses.

If it's about patience, it looks like I still have to practice patience because I often lose my temper to wait for the market to reverse direction but I'm still working on it. Short-term trading or scalping trading requires more skill to be able to find good coins and all the coins in the market will tempt you to buy because many of them will have a good position to buy or sell.

I don't have much experience in scalping trading because it's riskier for me. But I admit that scalping trading is how traders can make profits in a short time. They don't have to hold the coin for too long and as long as they can make a good profit, they can sell it and wait for the right moment to buy again. Before you make a scalping trade, you must search for the coin that has a good movement, maybe have a gap that you can use to buy low and sell high fast.

DCA, scalping, day trading or any other type of trading all have their advantages and disadvantages, depending on how you do it. If you master it, it will be easy to get profit. If you always lose you are still not able to maximize it. Scalping requires large funds and good technical analysis skills to read market movements quickly. Profit targets must be strictly adhered to. scalping requires a lot of orders so how much profit will be accumulated.
I myself sometimes do scalping trades and it is quite effective for getting quick profits. The most important thing is to look at market conditions, if market conditions are not good, don't enter.

I am making money from day trading i often spend lots of  my time by concentrating on day trading and i have gain more money than i spent. I think that you can gain from  both scalpers as well as from day trading but one important thing is that you should have to know about the chosen one. by knowing about the one or both you can achieve your goals and profit easily.

Am still a little bit novice in trading and can't name or define the type of trading am into but will go on to choose day trading as my trading formula is to study the daily price of any coin/token I want to trade-in and will always make sure to take advantage of the volatility of the market to make some profit.

My method is to buy when the price is low and make sure to sell it before the end of the day trading to cash out whatever profits I could make from the esset.

You didn't confirm that you are now making steady profit with your new found strategy, swing  ;D
I feel all strategy work find only if you understand them.


The market doesn't stay in one direction for two years because in between, there is bull and bear also. Two years was in 2020 and in that year bitcoin got lower below $4k and went higher in 5 figures too. Moreover in between there is bear and bull, the difference is to know the trend.

In the current market situation and with the failure of the support and resistance areas to determine the direction of prices in the future, I bet that day trading has become more of a step and therefore needs more skills, otherwise you will lose your capital, and from here I cannot recommend it to beginners.

You can try scalping, which I think is better than swing trading, but in the end, unless you build the right strategy, it is wrong to expect to get profits.

Building a strategy requires combining more than one trading type.

If you do have the ample time to spent then scalping or day trade would really fit out as your trading style because not all does have the time and not all does have the skills thats why
it wont really fit out anybody on what  they are tending to engage.It is actually hard yet i do have experience already in trading but dealing with active price volatility is something
that you cant just really able to handle out if you arent really that good trader.It is hard but not impossible and only ones who do make profits in short time in to those people
 who do able to sustain.

I guess I'm not making money from scalping as it's hard for me but perhaps day trade was more manageable on my end. Though I'd say we're really getting into the vibes that at the end we will gonna be all love swinging a trade, scalping and day trading was just too tiresome.

i lost money using all these methods, so for me i prefer to do long term market analysis and then buy to sell when the price is too high and then do analysis and buy when the price is too low, in this cryptocurrency market it seems that hold is what else makes a profit with some security, of course it also requires good technical analysis and not being fooled by people who believe that price will always go up and not fall, making hodl is the only option to get good profits


if we counted how many people make money scalping day trading, the number would be so small that anyone would be scared

Statistics don't lie mate,it's been proven over and over that 95% of day traders ultimately lose money and the ones who can make profit from it can't even outperform an index fund, so why would you intentionally go through all that hassle and stress if you know that the odds are not in your favor.

It is the reality of trading, the higher timeframes have a better advantage since you can see the whole picture not fractions of market movement. You can get three different market directions in different hourly vs weekly monthly charts, long term trading requires patience since you only come back checking your orders once a week. Regarding swing trading, you can choose the H4 timeframe as a basement and do your entries on the lower timeframe for maximizing profit and minimizing costs. Swing trading has been better way if you can keep track of the price action on higher timeframes,otherwise, stick to lower timeframes until learning.

You got a point here but we can't force people to stick on using higher time frames.
There are a lot of people making huge money while just doing scalp traders compare to day trading.

I already experienced scalp trading, I tried doing scalp trading but I find it really difficult.  But overall, if we talk about timeframes, you can always use different time frames, just like what I am doing, I am using a lower timeframe before I will enter a trade for my day trading, it's like you will get some small advantage on your entry by analyzing that low time frame.

Well, since OP has been losing I think it wasn't wrong to try something that you don't know unless if you tried if what would be the outcome. OP did try different strategy to increase his chances of winning/getting profit but unfortunately, I guess it's not for him since he can conclude that swing trading is by far better than others strategy.

I have been losing in trading too and at the same time gaining some profit too, so I think winning more than losing is enough to know you are winning. Well, at least this will be an experience to OP if he could learn where he made some mistakes which is the cost of being impatient.

I make money by both methods. These are both methods for making money from short term.
I think scalping is that when price pumps. But on some small exchange their price does not updates. So, we buy from where their price is low and sell it before it update price with the market price. Its a short term trading. But it is a quick method of making money. Day trading is very similar with it. But in day trading we analyze that its the buy opportunity then take decision.

Swing trading is a sub-type of long term holding whereas scalping is a sub-type of day-trading.

Always when you take time in fundamentally stronger market then your chances to make profit is at maximum. So, any type of day-trading which is not having breathing time as per fundamentally strong market's requirement will lead to losses for sure. Because, such market may seem highly volatile in short term but in long run, it will always keep growing and when you keep your nerves down with your open positions then you may make easy profits.

I am more of a day trader I don't scalp though I had mixed results so far as a day trader, i.e earn profits as well as lose some, this is due to the fact I am finetuning my trading strategy, though I am still trading with some small amount of fund I can afford to lose, as for me scalping is a no go area, because I can't sit down all day and be monitoring price movement, as day trader my choices of chart is 4 hour, 6 hour, 12 hour and daily timeframe respectively, as in higher timeframe for my analysis lower timeframe for entry, in most cases my entry is on beginning of the daily candlestick after doing my analysis.

I stay where I'm comfortable with. I use the scalping strategy for almost 3 years and I am really in profit but can't just deny that I lose also sometimes ( kinda be a normal thing). But yes, this is never been easy as we need to analyze the market so well, and spending more time on the market watching the trend where it goes gives us the idea of when to sell and when to buy. And aside from that, we have to learn how to be more patient and take control of our emotions because no matter how good we are in analyzing the market it still ruins if we got lose our emotions.

All involve risk and a crucial upon making a decision, both of them have the same time frame of trading strategy but don't have the same how frequent trades in the market.  But scalper as I noticed sometimes can be called day trader but day trader we can't call them as a scalper, so the difference here is that is per session trades.  

It seems like this, more often trades a day, small profit, less risk and that's what we called scalper and on other hand, fewer trades a day, big profit but it has high risk.  So now, scalping sounds better if you have enough time and dedication to understand the market situation a full time to spend in the market just to earn a profit, they had the goal just to earn profit.

But, I read 99% of traders are becoming holders after frustrating losses. Swing trading and long term holding are not having big differences but I believe for bitcoin, long term holding is most better option rather than trying out any kind of trading which can be swing trading or anything.

I know forum people who sold bitcoins around $50k by last May month with the plans of swing trading but market disappointed them when it tested $64k and some of them bought back around $61k with the target of $95k levels. It means long term holding may get you any kind of frustrations like this.

My kind suggestion is, all type of trading may get you losses one day or other but if you get into long term holding then you will find chances to make profits in long run. Leave off all the headaches which can be swing or scalping; adopt long term holding to enjoy your days.

What if when bitcoin price rose to $50000, a trader open a short (sell) position with 1x leverage. The liquidation price will be around $100000. Bitcoin reach ATH of $69000 and dropped back. If the person did not sell as of this time, the person is gaining already. I understood you though, you mean spot trading that when converted to fiat or coins like USDT, the person is no more gain or lose.

Impatience would make a lot of traders close their position at that level of $69k even when they already spelt their liquidation at $100k. That's what happens when emotions are tied to trades. I've consistently maintained that lack of self discipline is the bane of most traders and not their trading plans or skills. A lot have great skills but emotion messes them up.

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I started off as a scalper because those whom I followed as a budding trader were of the opinion that one could easily go in and out of the market within minutes and pick wins. That, I discovered not to be entirely true as I kept recording loss after loss. With time I came to understand that my temperament is better situated for higher time frames. I don't do anything less than daily. However I've read and heard about those who make a kill from scalping. But it's just not my thing.

Scalping is something not for everybody because you have to deal with price on very active manner which means you do need ample time and effort for you to be effective with this kind of trading.Some would succeed out

and some do fail to do so and it would vary if you could sustain or not and this is where people do make out some switch up from scalping to swing/trend or long term trading.
Doesnt matter which one though as long you could make profits then thats what it counts.

I will be answering your question based on the outcome of my trades in a month. I keep record of my trades, and at the end of the month I check whether to know if I’m really gaining from it or not. This is a way for me to know if what I am doing is something that I should continue with or quit.

So far, I don’t get the same results in every month, but I think it is quite good and I do make profit. Maybe with time I might get better like I have did. If that day trading is not working for you and you have now switched to swing trading and things have started working, then you should continue with that.

All of us wants to make profit, if you’re seeing that profit, then you’re good. All you have to do now is try to improve yourself and make sure that you’re growing in what you’re doing. When your skills are better and you have enough capital, invest better so that your returns will also bigger than what is now. Then above all, try to be careful, and understand that there are risks involved.

Day trading is capital intensive while scalping is based on the level of greed control no matter the capital. Day traders might have a good analysis but most times retracement could trigger stop loss or blow than a trading account with a small capital. While scalping takes advantage of immediate volatility one can make profit both ways it all boils down to discipline

Scalping and daytrading is somewhat the same it is really just different on the time that they are executing actions and its true that whether you do have a big or small capital it wouldnt really matter because it would really require good capital handling plus discipline because every action would counts because you are dealing with volatility on active manner which is something that couldnt be handled out easily.
Only a few could able to survive daytrade or scalping thats why it isnt for everybody and for those who could do then they are the ones who could make profits in short time basis.

Discipline is the key, many day traders are just wasting their money paying for the fees while scalpers are have a better chance to make money since they only become active once the opportunity is there.

I tried day trading before, its stressful and I didn’t succeed since I spend more what I earned during that day. Most probably, you need a lot of more good skills in trading for you to become profitable but again, if you’re trading with small capital, you might not appreciate day trading.

Note that crypto market is always volatile, mate.  ;)

How do you make the analyses to compare the swing trading and scalping/day trading?
So far, I never read any articles that clearly prove swing trading is better than scalping/day trading. If you have some sources that can prove it, please share them with me.  ;)  Don't generalize the case based on your experience or based on a few traders only. I'm pretty sure, it will be hard/difficult to know what trading style that most people get profits.

I believe not all traders can fit with swing trading, some prefer using scalping or day trading because it is easier and faster to gain profits. Also, each trading style has its own advantage and disadvantage, so basically there is no better trading style.

The crypto market has changed a lot, it is really hard to predict where the price direction even professional traders "guru's" posting and sharing on other social medias always made mistakes.

I always got stuck in trading because of emotion, less patience, FOMO and most of all being greedy - need more discipline while trading but learning is most important though it's really hard to understand the market situation there are lots of basis to watch out.

For me, trading depends on a person's character we can do scalping, day trade or being swing trader as well as being investor is one of the best if you have enough money to invest and wait for the perfect time for the price to go up. Needs patience!

I earned form scalping for couple of days but because of being greedy at the end of the day my funds stuck again and again, tsk tsk! It's emotional control that always made me this mistakes but still I believed in the project that i've been trading so i don't have a choice now but to hodl the coin for couple of days.

One of the problem also is that if our fund is not an extra funds it will cause a big emotional problem is there's an emergency!

Not many traders use scalping or day trading because it requires more skill than buying and holding it for a certain period. I think it will be safer than using scalping and day trading and it can also reduce the tension in trading. This method can be used by many traders, especially those who do not have more skills than other traders.

I also use this method because it allows me to practice patience in trading and it allows me to learn about market conditions that are still unstable. When we use this method, we need to pay attention to not panic if the price drops because it is only temporary and even that is another opportunity that we can get to buy at a lower price.

It seems most people here never prefer short term strategies. Because, I am able to recall that there were lots of discussions here about the dangers of day trading and all other short term trading strategies. Those discussions might have enlightened people like you. I really appreciate your knowledge on choosing the right strategies for a better career with crypto trading.

Yeah, I agree. When we have an easiest trading method (hodling), why we need to go struggling with scalping or day-trading.

Scalping and day trading are not capital intensive, it depends on the amount you as a trader use to trade but the shorter the time the lower the amount to be used to trade by traders. Assuming you have $1000 for trading, experienced traders can use it to trade and hold like this:

$100 or less for scalping
$100 or less for day trading
$300 for swing trading
$500 or more for holding.

Both day trading and scalping are very risky, very low amount of money should be used it for it. It is not only also about greed control, you can be able to control your greed but enter market or position at the wrong price that will go against your profit making side. Trading should be well learned before starting and using what you can afford to lose are all part of trading strategy.

Scalping and day trading is very risky especially when market volatile. The first time I Started scalping  , I got some benefit, but later I lost a lot because of lack of experience.
Day trading need best strategy and Graph knowledge. Without knowledge newbie will lost much like me.

Long term investment is something I have been doing for over seven years now, and that was a weak period, I didn't put in too much, I did about 2 years ago, and we all know how the past 2 years has been.

If I got scared and sold, I would have lost so much money and yet I did not and hold it even between all those falls and thanks to all the increases that happened in between, I am in big profit right now. That is how you make money, otherwise you will end up losing each time the price drops and you get scared and sell your coins. This doesn't mean that you can never sell your coins, just pick it at the right time and long term could benefit you insanely well.

I do not do scalping or day trading, and you may ask why? And the reason is simple because I realized the same as you from the very beginning, there are a few successful traders which are either scalping or day trading but they are a minority and it is not difficult to see why that is the case.

Those methods of trading require a perfect execution of your system with almost no margin of error for very little profits and huge commissions, so the costs are high but the profits are on the low side, so with this in mind it is easy to see how swing trading is a better option, not only it is easier, more forgiving about any mistake you make, more profitable, less demanding and the commissions you need to pay are lower, so it is not really a surprise that eventually many day traders make the transition and become swing traders.

Day trading is a full time job, so I will skip that due to nature of my external lifestyle, I hardly sit down all days for now so I scalp the ones on my favorite when I see the opportunity to make some moves.
Trading is hard, I wouldn't lie to you especially now that bitcoin is doing zigzag movement from the beginning of this year, it's too difficult to guess where it's heading. It's better we wait for the politics and propaganda to end before we make any in trading soon.

That is to say, when one merchant is benefitting then on the another end, somebody should lose. Since, the cash you are benefitting from exchanging isn't emerging from the paradise however from another dealers' capital. I can't help thinking about how much is the expenses for that. The public authority can direct the trades, however they can't absolutely control the dealer so as far as I might be concerned, this thing is unimaginable to expect to occur.

I do not think that it has to be that way and I have proved that before. If one person buys something at 5 dollars, sell at 10 dollars they profited, and that person could sell it at 15 and profit, and next one at 20 and profit. Which means that many people just profited, then it could drop back to 10 and one person lost.

It means that while 4-5 people could profit one person may lose. That is the proof that sometimes many more people end up profiting then people who lose. If you are a trading, and a scalper at that, then you are going to look for quicker profits and there will be thousands who profit before someone loses against them big time.

If a trader knows the key to making a profit in any one of the time frames, it's just a matter of some practice before he can become an expert trader in other time frames too. Shorter time frame isn't riskier, it's just that a shorter time frame gives you very less time to make decisions regarding your trade, you get in that adrenaline rush and make hasty decisions that prove to be wrong. In swing trading, you know you are here for a longer time so you tend to let the trade flow freely and reach it's destination. Apart from this, there is absolutely no difference between both of them. But yes only due to this reason you would see a lot of more people have made profits in swing trading than any other smaller time frame trading.

The absolute difference between them which is very important is that a trader that is patient, losing with scalping or day trading can turn it ton swing trading and later gain, this has been what I did not realise for long and that affected me and made me lose a lot of money until I went for swing trading. Day trading can make many traders to have the mindset that they will soon close position or that they will soon sell, they may use high leverage because of this unlike swing traders that will prefer to go for 1x because they know the trade can be longer than expected and do not want to borrow with leverage because of this.

Day traders are more of a dedicated type of traders. They commit much time into what they do and people who are not committing that much time are not going to be able to benefit from being a day trader. Maybe that might be the case with the OP, I'm just guessing he didn't really commit that much time into day trading and that is why it is not really working out for him.

Day trading is difficult and I wouldn't really recommend it to everyone because it is hard and not everyone would have that kind of time to study how this day trading works and be able to set up a really good strategy that they can use and as well commit to it. So, it becomes a big deal for most, compared to swing trading.

Of course, scalping is much more difficult than being a swing trader. If you are a day trader or you are into scalping, it requires more devotion than you would need when it comes to swing trading. Someone who is into scalping would require making quick trades on a daily and has to be always active and devoted to their work that they are doing, because if you’re not really devoted to it, then you’re just going to be losing money all the time.

But, for someone who is into swing trading, it doesn’t really require much of your devotion as you will do when you are into scalping. Swing trading means that you are focusing on profit over a longer period of time.

Traders will never tell you the truth. On a forum or social media they are like a hero with cape, that closes each and single trade with a tremendous profit, never had a loss, and had a life better than Jordan Belfort had in "Wolf in Wall Street". But in reality, they drive honda civic and prefer to buy discount goods at at store.

All these scalpers live more stressful life, but dont earn more than average salary in your region. Why? Because not everyone has balls and is satisfied with little.

Its always tough to earn from trading though its really a profitable way .However i never try day trading cause i don't wanna take high risk on trading .I think he who learn a lot behind it can earn from it ,without having experience on it you may loose your valuable fund .I have voted for not earning from it .You need to have a huge amount of capital to earn a minimum percentage on every trade you do .If market goes negatively and hit your stop loss you may loose a big amount which you can get from two trade .So that you need to have a good knowledge behind it .I don't wanna scalping cause i can earn from long term strong project which helps me to get a good return .So always think before to do any scalping or day trading cause your fund always on risk then.

Without a doubt something like this can indeed happen, however taking into account that there are way more losers than winners in all markets then the scenario that you are presenting is rare.

The most common scenario is that single user wins and those profits are built over the losses of many other traders that wanted the same success for themselves, only to give their money away to other market participants, this reality could be discouraging for some but the truth is that if you are one of the few which understands the markets then this means that you can make a living out of trading with relatively ease.

Its a war between buyers and sellers which is the most very basic concept of overall market trading which means that you do need to do well and be wise and some sort of being lucky
when you do engage with trades but this isnt for everybody because scaling and day trade is actively dealing with volatility which simply means you do need the sufficient skills and
knowledge so that you would able to survive and being profitable or sustaining even though its hard but its not impossible if you are really eager on doing so.

What I noticed is that it depends on the type of trading and the mentality. A person that set a goal to achieve certain profit in so time can make losses, a person that set a goal to make profit everyday from scalping and day trading can make losses. It all depends on the type of trading, the right time to enter the market and how patient the trader is. Some traders risk too much, having their position liquidated, what could have been profit if low margin is used. Traders that gain most are the ones that find ways not to lose while not thinking how small the profit is and these type of traders are mostly swing traders, but many trades they do can be day trading because profit can be achieved within just a day, but sometimes it can be weeks.

For scalping and day trading, you not only need to be very expert in trading but at the same time you need to have a big portfolio. Since you take less percentage reward in scapling, the position size is usually higher in trades taken by the traders. If you are not expert, you will keep hitting the stoploss in scapling and  day trading. For beginners it is recommeneded that they start with scalping which has much better results in terms of risk and reward.

Your situation is not different from many others here, I have come to realize that trading is not easy at first but if one is patient and calm take time to study the market before making any decisions because if one apply day trading technic to scalper or swing, you may earn of getting the opposite result.  So above all one needs to be patient and use low leverage e.g 1x.

Well @Joeperry, its so much of a sway to the left and right for a more directional question as asked in OP. I think your best way towards answering the questikn would have been to check your net profit if possible to know, if your making a lose or is on profit on both grounds for day trading and scalping. Trading is never one directional and consequently, even as a professional trader, you are bound to encounter some loses.

In my opinion, day trading and swing trading haven't been very favourable to me. You can be be rest assured it has the best potential of enriching someone and also leading to bankruptcy while swing trade is the complete opposite although, it favours one with a large account size to wait out the rainy days until it shines again.

Scalping is for impatient people, and to those people who makes decisions that fast and easy. Scalping is easy profit but don't expect too much on it, however, profit is still a profit. Day Trading is the exact opposite of scalping, big profits, even with few trades. Both could be ways for anyone to make profits, the rest will depends on the trader, whether he'll make money on it with his skills or not, simple as that.

If I can suggest swing traders that do not make use of margin to trade to have high amount of money to trade, I can never advice day traders or scalpers to use high amount of money for trading, because the safest trading you can do with little risk is swing trading without margin involved, scalping and day trading are highly risky and it is better for traders to use the amount of money they can afford to lose.

Didn't know that scalping was easier than in day trading because the word is rarely being talk about but what I often see in the forum is day trading if not trading and also swing trading is being discussed the most here. Trading is the root of all trades therefore we should start learning here before we proceed on other variations of trades.

It requires a big portfolio and to have a big portfolio you will first need a huge capital but most of us are fail to have this requirement, this can be the reason why they didn't do scalping and day trading. Another thing is normal people will under estimate small profits but experts thinks it was the holy grail.

I do fully disagree on saying that scalping is easy rather  than with swing/trend type of trading and i dont believe on that one basing up with real experience back in the past and for
sure the community would actually say the same thing because dealing with moving prices on active manner is really hard and not that something you could able to handle it out.
You are risking your capital on very active manner with those slight movements whether it would result into a profit or loss.So lots of factors would be needing for you to
sustain on this kind of trading.If someone claims it was easy then he's skillful enough.

The attitude and mentally of "profit is profit" isn't just for scalpers. It's for every trader and as well as investors.

These times, it's no longer important whether you earn big or small but to consider that you've made profit, that's the most important thing that a trader can think of.

Scalping or day trading, you do any of them and just look for the perfect fit of your trading style.

It is a need to determine what really fits us. Like me, I'd choose day trading because I was very comfortable with this, quite have more time in the market, though.

We did everything just to make the reach of our goal "a profit". However, with the wrong choice of strategy we use makes it impossible, instead, we just lose. And to earn a profit even it was just a small partition (2-3%) is good enough. We are actually seeking more but sometimes, the time doesn't give favor to us.

On the other hand, we can't identify which strategy is more profitable as it always depend on the trader who make the decision.

Well that is it, --a profit and you are right.
Both are aiming profit either you are in day trader or you a scalper and if you feel which suits to your skills you go for it there is nothing to choose if this will not you are comfortable with. To be honest, I hate being a day trader because I tried them all I can give my testimony now, you cannot sit whole day long facing your computer for the day trading, that is why I am preferred for being scalper. Less time you spend, a little chance to have a loss, do you agree with me?

If scalping is easy profit then every trader will choose to be a scalper. No trading style is easier to make profit. If a trader feels scalping generates profit more than other style, it is better to adopt it. Scalping has an advantage because you can quickly exit the market when price reverts and direction change. A swinger may not have time to always check what is going on in the market.

I've done the voting, it seems that a lot of people get money through scalping and day trading,
but for me these two can't be done continuously, because in the spot market it's very different from futures trading,
because have risk losing a lot of money, I myself trade by holding up to 2 weeks even up to 2 months just to wait for the coin to increase,
yes, everyone has a way, and if you are comfortable then do it.

You just have to choose where you are comfortable and what is profitable.

And to identify which strategy works for you, you need to test all that you know. Upon doing that, you're going to have an idea on which of them is really going to be an ideal strategy to you and what's effective.

Whether it's just 2% or 5% or more of the profit that you get upon trading, that's where the quote gets in about "profit is profit".

Well you have to be clear about something, when you win in trading it is because someone else loses, that is the greatest premise that can be clear, and it is also the whole truth that there are more losing traders than winners, I think 80% of 100% % always lose, that is the most real statistic that exists in the world of trading and not only here in the crypto market, if we go to the stock market the same statistic also occurs, generally people think that whales do not lose and yes, they also lose, only they have more solid bases in terms of money and with any movement they will quickly recover their money, which does not happen with a common trader.

I gain from both and also loss on both.
Though losses are few.

To this I will add that execution is key when it comes to any form of short term trading, if you are a positional trader or even a swing trader it makes no difference if you make your trade a few minutes late as you can still get profits even if there is an important delay between what happens in the markets and the implementation of your strategy.

However when it comes to short term trading you need to execute your strategy flawlessly and as fast as you possibly can, because if you do not then the chances you turn a profit drops considerably, something that most newbies cannot do consistently, which explains why they lose so much money when they try to trade this way.

Swing trading is more successful for me than day trading since I prefer to take the small profit I have at a certain moment and then wait for another opportunity.
I considered quitting cryptocurrency trading since I constantly lose, regardless of the analysis and method I employ. I also lose patience if I hold a coin or token for an extended period of time. That is why, in order to prevent losing any more money, I am currently taking the small profit I have at a given time.

Hahaha it is more painful that a large account size will even be wiped out because of waiting out for a losing market. In my experience I have seen it that market can be on tops with little retraction or retracement and continue on tops for months, in such times a large account size may be wiped out depending on the risk size. This can lead to high blood pressure plus a lot of sweat in trading because of being hopeful for waiting out instead of trading the right way, that is using stoploss.

Lot size or position order control and management is really very crucial and it doesnt matter whether you do have big capital or small one because sustainability should really be your main priority.

Scalpers do deal with volatility in very active manner on where you should really be that meticulous when it comes to positioning plus having immediate or fast action towards gains and losses.

Most of the time you wont really be setting some stop losses since you do make out actions on fast pace manner which it is a bit off on using it out.

Yeah, both of them are working strategies. Swing trading are for people who don’t have much time to be active in the market, so they are going a bit long term in their trading. But there is no type of strategy where you wouldn’t lose money, there is always the risks of losing money when you’re trading, not minding the type of strategy that you have chosen to make use of.

Swing traders can make big profits by the end of the day using this strategy at once, but for a scalp trader, they would have to do several trades successfully to make huge profit before the day is over, since they are taking small gains for each call they make. At the end, both strategies works pretty fine, just go with what suits you best and that’s it.

Swing trading VS Scalping – it all goes down to what you actually believe. People do make profit from scalping, and in case you do know , there are lots of people who like using the scalping strategy for trading.Maybe just because it wasn’t a successful strategy for you doesn’t automatically say that scalping is bad, no, it actually works for some people.

If you’re that type of trader that believes that it is easier to catch small gains than the large ones, then scalping is meant for you. If you make use of this strategy correctly, it would work for you. Scalp trading requires that the trader stays glued to the market and making hundreds of trades by the end of the day.

And this is the type of trading majority of crypto people try,,, and fail eventually, sooner or later.

This is a simple fact of biology and psychology that traders do not understand when you do something that requires you to be glued to a single task the entire day, day after day, with brain just watching.

No one on this planet can sustain that activity at high efficiency for a long time. Mistakes become more common and impatience leads to more risks, etc.

If you are scalping manually, give it up, I would say.

This is a good point, humans are really good at finding imaginative solutions to their problems, however when it comes to monitoring we are really inefficient, and watching the markets and taking decisions based on the movements of the charts fall into this category.

So there are only three paths that we have available, to increase our monitoring ability, to create a bot to do this on our place or to decrease the importance of monitoring the markets constantly by trading a slower time frame, none of those options are easy but trading the makets in general have never been easy at all.

Yup,,, and it is not our fault, it is simply biology as I said. Chemicals and impulses and weariness all add up, we are not able to monitor efficiently, and with time it becomes worse and worse. So any activity that needs you to do it continuously for hours is always going to give worsening returns, not to mention repeating this daily for months!

Bots is the only way but that is always imperfect unless you are a pro at setting precise and welldefined paramaters :)

Bitcoin trading is not for everyone I guess I would say!

It truly relies upon the circumstance and time, there are times that I don't bring in cash from both scalping and day exchanging and there are times that I create great gain from both, yet assuming you are asking overall. Yet, I have additionally had a go at scalping exchanging and around then, the speed of the coins to move was great to such an extent that I had the option to get a good benefit in a couple of exchanges.