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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: brandonlang on March 10, 2022, 09:53:04 AM



Title: Betnomi scam bet settlement manipulation
Post by: brandonlang on March 10, 2022, 09:53:04 AM
Two times VAR reviewed two offsides goals. If anyone watched the match could agree with me. Two fucking times. And this scammers still have the balls to set it as lose. Dont bet in this place

https://ibb.co/mrpcwrX
https://ibb.co/m6bSDJL
https://ibb.co/LSkGzLj
https://ibb.co/NpLNQ44


Title: Re: Betnomi scam bet settlement manipulation
Post by: AB de Royse777 on March 10, 2022, 10:01:37 AM
Did you try to settle with them before making this topic? The event happened yesterday and you are creating the accusation today. Seems to me to quick to judge. Sometime you may need to be nice and give others time to look into an issue before going rude too. After all human are working behind every business.


Title: Re: Betnomi scam bet settlement manipulation
Post by: Ryker1 on March 10, 2022, 10:30:31 AM
Well, I also wonder why they did not reply to the OP post on their ANN thread. [I saw it there on the last page]
But that is right, you should wait first when they will respond and clarify these possible mistakes as I see.
I am not technically good on how VAR review going on how much to wait to make lose decision. This match should put it on hold, but as I saw Real Madrid was won this match.


Title: Re: Betnomi scam bet settlement manipulation
Post by: betnomi on March 10, 2022, 01:18:40 PM

Betnomi doesn't settle Sports, maybe a little explanation on how sports betting works.
There are feed providers who provide the feeds/ markets to all sportsbooks.
The bets, the rules, and pretty much everything is set and defined by the feed provider.

Regarding this specific issue, here is the rule/ explanation from our feed provider

"Please note that in the market name we have  (Only On-Field Review or Video Review Sign (Rectangle))
So, the market will be calculated Won if the chief referee looks at the episode in person or makes a decision
or manually shows the video sign - a rectangle drawn in the air."
This is the rule of the VR market.

Our support team gave you a detailed explanation of the situation, but no, you want your own rules.
Unfortunately, you don't get to make your own rules or decide our things should work.


Since this is the second time you disagree with a predefined rule, it is obvious this is not a behavior you are willing to change.
That said, kindly withdraw any remaining funds from your account.
And we will proceed to close your account, and you are no longer welcome to use our services.
This is a sad outcome but a necessary one to avoid future reoccurrences.


Regards,

Betnomi.


Title: Re: Betnomi scam bet settlement manipulation
Post by: Pmalek on March 10, 2022, 02:32:02 PM
Betnomi's explanation makes sense. It's mentioned on the betting slip as well. The referee has to physically go to the TV screen and watch replays of the incident for a positive outcome of the bet. Whenever the referee does that, he makes a rectangle sign in the air before running towards the monitors. If that wasn't the case, the odds wouldn't be 2.45 for over 0.5 VARs. They would be like 1.10 because the referee is in contact with the video referees throughout the match several times and there are many situations where he asks for their feedback without going to the monitors himself.

@brandonlang
You don't have a case against Betnomi.

@Betnomi
Are the rules for these VAR bets explained somewhere on your site? Can you provide a link to the explanation?  


Title: Re: Betnomi scam bet settlement manipulation
Post by: brandonlang on March 10, 2022, 05:41:27 PM
Betnomi's explanation makes sense. It's mentioned on the betting slip as well. The referee has to physically go to the TV screen and watch replays of the incident for a positive outcome of the bet. Whenever the referee does that, he makes a rectangle sign in the air before running towards the monitors. If that wasn't the case, the odds wouldn't be 2.45 for over 0.5 VARs. They would be like 1.10 because the referee is in contact with the video referees throughout the match several times and there are many situations where he asks for their feedback without going to the monitors himself.

@brandonlang
You don't have a case against Betnomi.

@Betnomi
Are the rules for these VAR bets explained somewhere on your site? Can you provide a link to the explanation?  


The bet market literally said: Video Review Sign (Rectangle)
Here your have it https://ibb.co/m6bSDJL
More proof? Flashscore web disallowing goal DUE TO VAR https://imgbb.com/NpLNQ44
If there is not a review why does VAR dissalow a goal? You think i photoshoped the image? Here you have the link to see it
https://www.flashscore.es/partido/nktZQ16E/#/resumen-del-partido/resumen-del-partido


Title: Re: Betnomi scam bet settlement manipulation
Post by: yahoo62278 on March 10, 2022, 06:30:12 PM
Betnomi's explanation makes sense. It's mentioned on the betting slip as well. The referee has to physically go to the TV screen and watch replays of the incident for a positive outcome of the bet. Whenever the referee does that, he makes a rectangle sign in the air before running towards the monitors. If that wasn't the case, the odds wouldn't be 2.45 for over 0.5 VARs. They would be like 1.10 because the referee is in contact with the video referees throughout the match several times and there are many situations where he asks for their feedback without going to the monitors himself.

@brandonlang
You don't have a case against Betnomi.

@Betnomi
Are the rules for these VAR bets explained somewhere on your site? Can you provide a link to the explanation? 

This user had another case just 9 days ago of the same issue. He was not satisfied with the outcome of that as well.

I gave this people a week to set this bet correctly but even showing them proof they dont want to. Going to post here so people can give their opinion.

https://ibb.co/q19zhqW (Over 0.5 VAR reviews)

Here is a tweet from an ESPN verified account saying VAR REVIEWED IT and decline red card

https://twitter.com/espnecuador/status/1496238912167161862?s=21

You can translate it dont speak spanish. Anyway the evidence is clear with the image of the action.

https://ibb.co/SxxzBFj
https://ibb.co/3Mps9pM

You think a player would nail his cleats on opponent knee and VAR WONT EVEN REVIEW IT? Its absurd

To check the official results go to Live -> Result -> enter the match Date-> click Search -> then search Europe - UEFA Champion League -> click search again -> scroll down till you find "Vars"

Here is the screenshot:
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/07/wrlK9.jpeg

The Referee Daniel Siebert only produced a yellow for the challenge, which didn’t go to VAR.
(you can search for this information on any sports online news or else)

That was the official result from the official protocol.

https://betnomi.com/sport -> 1. Football: 1.4.17.1 All statistical bets (Offsides, Fouls, Shots, etc.) are calculated according to the official protocol.

Is this really how to go about things? You dislike what support tells you, so you think taking it to this forum will help you out? Respect what you were told by the site. This is the equivalent of asking your mommy if you can do something and her saying no, so you go ask your dad.

Then March 3rd, he makes a post saying the casino is legit, but the cards bet rule needs changed.

I have to say that Betnomi is legit and have fast withdrawals but i got scammed with the cards bet and they know their own rule is wrong and thats something i wont forget

This shows that he acknowledges the rules and doesn't agree with them. If he doesn't like the rules, then why keep trying to bet the same stuff hoping for a different outcome? That's the definition of insanity ya know.

Regardless, the users post history looks like a long list of hate with nearly every casino out there. Looks like he is displeases with about everyone and hoping this bullying tactic gets him some money.

@brandonlang you need to take a break from gambling on sports and go out and enjoy life.


Title: Re: Betnomi scam bet settlement manipulation
Post by: Pmalek on March 10, 2022, 06:57:36 PM
The bet market literally said: Video Review Sign (Rectangle)
Here your have it https://ibb.co/m6bSDJL
More proof? Flashscore web disallowing goal DUE TO VAR
You don't seem to understand what I am telling you or you are intentionally playing gullible thinking it will help your case. It will not. None of those screenshots you posted are proof of anything. No one is saying that the VAR officials didn't take action in the match when it was needed. That's not the point and that's not the bet that you made. You made a bet that the official referee of the match will go to the TV monitors and watch the video himself. Do you understand that?

Do you watch football or just bet on it? Do you even understand how the VAR system works?
Did you watch the match between Real and PSG? When did the referee personally make a rectangle sign and go to the monitors to check the review? Show us a video or screenshot from the match where the referee does exactly that. 


Title: Re: Betnomi scam bet settlement manipulation
Post by: JeromeTash on March 10, 2022, 09:52:05 PM
The bet market literally said: Video Review Sign (Rectangle)
Here your have it https://ibb.co/m6bSDJL
More proof? Flashscore web disallowing goal DUE TO VAR https://imgbb.com/NpLNQ44
If there is not a review why does VAR dissalow a goal? You think i photoshoped the image? Here you have the link to see it
https://www.flashscore.es/partido/nktZQ16E/#/resumen-del-partido/resumen-del-partido
Did you watch yesterday's match?

Because I don't remember the ref going to review any video. As soon as Mbappe scored the first goal and started celebrating, the linesman raised the flag and the ref blew the whistle, cancelling the goal.

The VAR Review sign came in later, way after the ref had cancelled the goal. Stop relying on shitty Live score sites

I don't for example see sofascore (https://www.sofascore.com/football/2022-03-09) another live score site saying the goal was cancelled by VAR.