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Title: A month of WAR
Post by: romero121 on March 25, 2022, 03:09:48 AM
A month got over on war between Ukraine and Russia. Here I would like to point out things that happened with bitcoin during this time period.

  • The market was moving around $39k and on the sudden invasion of Russian force into Ukraine the markets crashed close to $35k.
  • Coinbase paid a hacker $250k for saving a billions worth cryptocurrencies. If this has happened the market would've turned downwards further.
  • Western Nations decided to cut off Swift from Russia.
  • Once again eBay came with the plans of accepting bitcoin as payment, but this has been a story for long years.
  • Sanctions made over Russia and this time US asks cryptocurrency exchanges to follow the same rules of sanctions. The same is being requested by the Ukraine Vice Prime Minister.
  • Russian people started to use cryptocurrencies as a way to overcome the sanctions.
  • Visa and MasterCard stopped their services in Russia.
  • Women's Day event took place around the globe with different surveys detailed the increase of women into cryptocurrency.
  • Biden Signed the Crypto executive order which made the market progress to small extent.
  • A bitcoin address holding 489BTC got active after a 11.4 years.
  • Elon Musk made a tweet of holding bitcoin and ethereum, mentioned he won't sell it. This time his tweet didn't made any impact on the market.
  • Official announcement on receiving donation in terms of cryptocurrencies were posted by Ukraine Government. Until now more than $65million received.
  • Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy signed the law to officially legalize cryptocurrency.
  • Crypto.com is now an official sponsor for the FIFA.

Even more incidents took place during the same time period. If something to be added please post it, I'll add to the list.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: pooya87 on March 25, 2022, 04:35:16 AM
  • Russia started to use cryptocurrencies as a way to overcome the sanctions.
Russia, the country, didn't start using cryptocurrency to overcome sanctions.
Some people in Russia started buying bitcoin as the local currency started losing its value. And again some people are starting to use bitcoin as payment to overcome sanctions.

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  • A bitcoin address holding 489BTC got active after a 11.4 years.
Nothing new here :P

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  • Elon Musk made a tweet of holding bitcoin and ethereum, mentioned he won't sell it. This time his tweet didn't made any impact on the market.
"This time" LOL. Musk's impact on the market stopped in early days when he started pump and dumping Doge which I think was a year ago, maybe longer.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: romero121 on March 25, 2022, 07:00:49 AM
  • Russia started to use cryptocurrencies as a way to overcome the sanctions.
Russia, the country, didn't start using cryptocurrency to overcome sanctions.
Some people in Russia started buying bitcoin as the local currency started losing its value. And again some people are starting to use bitcoin as payment to overcome sanctions.
Yes, It is the people of Russia using cryptocurrencies and not the Russian government.

  • Elon Musk made a tweet of holding bitcoin and ethereum, mentioned he won't sell it. This time his tweet didn't made any impact on the market.
"This time" LOL. Musk's impact on the market stopped in early days when he started pump and dumping Doge which I think was a year ago, maybe longer.

Based on this tweet I made the point.  Tweet from Elon Musk  (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1503222294277197829?t=TjkwNfyGQbnlg8W8g048KQ&s=19)


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: pakhitheboss on March 25, 2022, 09:13:16 AM
There are three points on that list that should make everyone happy are.

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Women's Day event took place around the globe with different surveys detailed the increase of women into cryptocurrency.

I was reading an article that said out of 3 women 1 is interested in investing in cryptocurrency in 2022. Mass adoption is on the way.

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Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy signed the law to officially legalize cryptocurrency.

This was supposed to happen as they have been accepting cryptocurrency donation.

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Crypto.com is now an official sponsor for the FIFA.

This is a massive and aggressive marketing strategy by crypto.com. They have been sponsoring tournaments earlier too but this is very big.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 25, 2022, 02:31:30 PM

So many things happened within just a single month that can be affecting cryptocurrency in general and the recent announcement of the possibility that Russia may accept Bitcoin in exchange for its oil and gas is also worth noting though I am not sure if that one can fit within OP's one month window nevertheless it is a major news for Bitcoin as now  we see both Russia and Ukraine getting into cryptocurrency for different reasons. Now, the next few weeks may hold some surprises for all us who are into cryptocurrency and I am hoping things can be for good.

While the effects of war can be significantly devastating affecting almost all countries in the world, the silver lining here is that Ukraine is now accepting cryptocurrencies for its donation purposes. Not only that but it also sees the opportunity of accepting cryptocurrencies by legalizing its transactions in their country. Soon thereafter, countries would follow these footsteps and start integrating cryptocurrencies into their daily transactions.

I just hope that the war will soon end. Countless of unnecessary blood spilling happened. Though we cannot deny this fact, we also cannot deny that cryptocurrencies play a vital role in this unfortunate scenario.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: HODLN on March 25, 2022, 09:52:34 PM
  • Visa and MasterCard stopped their services in Russia.

  • Russian people started to use cryptocurrencies as a way to overcome the sanctions.

Cryptocurrencies always work for the common man- not the institution, not the government, only real people. I just hope that this isn't misrepresented as "Russia" rather than the innocent people residing within its borders.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: coupable on March 25, 2022, 10:11:28 PM

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Women's Day event took place around the globe with different surveys detailed the increase of women into cryptocurrency.

I was reading an article that said out of 3 women 1 is interested in investing in cryptocurrency in 2022. Mass adoption is on the way.

The percentage appears to be very high compared to the real number of women in the world. I think it may have resulted from testing a limited group of women.
According to recent researches, only 16% of men use cryptocurrencies vs just 7% of women : https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/30/cryptocurrency-has-a-big-gender-problem.html
Maybe you refer to the cryptocurrency lending platform BlockFi who polled more than 1000 American women to determine their awareness and feelings toward the cryptocurrency sector. According to the results, every woman in three plans to invest in cryptocurrency by the end of the year, while 60% said, they will buy cryptocurrency in the next three months. 1000 women is not a considerable number imo .


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: HODLN on March 26, 2022, 05:28:32 PM
I agree. Something is heavily skewing that stat. Does anyone have a link to the 1/3 number? I wonder why exactly the number is ~4x higher percentage than other polls. Maybe some localized area that has unusually heavy support for btc?


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Doan9269 on March 26, 2022, 10:04:11 PM
Russia, the country, didn't start using cryptocurrency to overcome sanctions.
Some people in Russia started buying bitcoin as the local currency started losing its value. And again some people are starting to use bitcoin as payment to overcome sanctions.

In addition to the occuring events in Russia, many potential crypto investors left Russia for UAE selling off their crypto assets to start a real estate investment in the region.

Another one is that Putin made a statement for international companies having their operations in Russia to vacate their representatives else they face his life threatening sanction.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: BIT-BENDER on March 26, 2022, 10:37:33 PM
The Russian citizens has started to move into crypto-currency the more, during this month period of war.

We have seen the government of Ukraine started a donation program using the Crypto-currency format, we also had seen the United States of America president speak well about Crypto-currency, although we didn't see much price increase this year I still think it was a good year for crypto-currency.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Marvelman on March 26, 2022, 10:39:45 PM
In addition to the occuring events in Russia, many potential crypto investors left Russia for UAE selling off their crypto assets to start a real estate investment in the region.

Where did you get such information? I know that some oligarchs have left Russia, but how can you know they have dumped their crypto assets for real estate? Where is the proof, and what is the source of the information?


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: ||bit on March 26, 2022, 10:41:53 PM
The war happened and had influenced the lot of the country economy.Due to the war,the price of crypto was reduced.Most of the investors had not even had their regular diet in the food items.Now the price of most of the coin was recovered of 30-40 percentage of old value.After this 20 percentage of total investors had cashed out their entire funds to Fiat.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: oudomopo on March 26, 2022, 10:49:17 PM
It has been a month and 2 days since I am writing this. Before the war started, the stocks and crypto was crashing due to Russia threatening to invade Ukraine. (which happens to be true) When Russia was threatening to invade, bitcoin plunged all the way below $37,000 and many people were worried. When the war began, Bitcoin suddenly went up and it happened. As of right now, bitcoin has not grown much since January. Bitcoin is swinging between $35,000-$45,000.
Since March 13th, Bitcoin jumped to almost 15% and since been growing. Right now it is slowing down a bit, but hopefully it would reach it's Early-January peak by the beginning of April.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: hatshepsut93 on March 26, 2022, 11:28:41 PM
  • Western Nations decided to cut off Swift from Russia.

Russia is not fully cut from SWIFT, certain banks were, while others still work with it.

  • Sanctions made over Russia and this time US asks cryptocurrency exchanges to follow the same rules of sanctions. The same is being requested by the Ukraine Vice Prime Minister.

IMO it will be a matter of time until regulators will make it a law and crypto exchanges will face a hard choice whether they want to operate legally or not

  • Visa and MasterCard stopped their services in Russia.

Only international transactions are blocked, domestic still work.

  • Official announcement on receiving donation in terms of cryptocurrencies were posted by Ukraine Government. Until now more than $65million received.

And the total donations for Ukraine are even higher, if you consider that there's a lot of NGOs who work for helping Ukraine.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: coupable on March 26, 2022, 11:55:55 PM
  • Western Nations decided to cut off Swift from Russia.

Russia is not fully cut from SWIFT, certain banks were, while others still work with it.

Does this mean that the general Russian people can use this service through some of the few banks that have been exempted from the sanctions? of course not.
Those banks were excluded from the boycott so that suppliers could acquire gas and oil using the same currency and the same method of payment. This is in addition to the alternatives offered by Russia in return for exiting the Swift system, which do not amount to being called a real alternative, given that the number of those involved in it does not exceed a few hundred financial institutions, while those involved in the Swift system are in the thousands.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Mauser on March 27, 2022, 03:02:11 AM
A very good summary of the impact of the Ukraine Russia war. A few things I would like to add. After the intital days of panic it became clear that this war will not be start WW3 and it is going to be an isolated conflict. The West and Nato can't risk to go to war with Putin over Ukraine. That is why bitcoins rebounded and trade now higher than at the start of the war. Life has to go on for the rest of there war. There are negative impacts from the war itself but also from the sanctions. That's why any country close to Russia is calculating the cost of the sanctions on their economy. Turkey and China probably being the biggest cases, both countries rely on good relations to Russia. As for Europe there is no real alternative for the energy coming out of Russia. All the gas contracts can't just be stopped overnight.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: GreatArkansas on March 27, 2022, 03:11:46 PM
A month got over on war between Ukraine and Russia. Here I would like to point out things that happened with bitcoin during this time period.
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Even more incidents took place during the same time period. If something to be added please post it, I'll add to the list.
For my side, this seems to be more challenging for everyone, even what we experiencing these days bad times or good times, there will be always a good result for Bitcoin or a positive effect. Just like the issue right now on Russia/Ukraine, lot of sanctions for payments, so this is the best time to use Bitcoin and it is useful.
 

Another can add is what issue that found on Chrome browser, as we all know Chrome is one of the popular browsers and there is issue that found that user could possibly get hacked.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Ale88 on March 27, 2022, 03:54:26 PM
After the intital days of panic it became clear that this war will not be start WW3 and it is going to be an isolated conflict.
Well, I'm glad to see that you were so sure about this, because honestly I wasn't. Probably this is the closest we've been to a potential WW3 since the Cold War times: starting a war only a few hundreds miles away from Poland, Germany, Italy... With all due respect with the conflicts in the Middle East and in Africa, this time it could have really escalated. I just hope all this will end ASAP.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: kryptqnick on March 27, 2022, 04:03:11 PM
Not all the mentioned events are related to the war, so I guess separating those directly related (like some Russian banks being cut off from SWIFT and Russians using cryptos to overcome sanctions) and those completely unrelated (Coinbase paying a hacker and an old BTC address getting active) could be helpful. Then again, some fall in the middle (like Zelensky signing the law, since it was supposed to happen anyway, but also it's kind of related to the war, given all the crypto donations Ukraine's getting). I think a thing that could be added is that Bitcoin surpassed Russian ruble  (https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/cryptocurrency/bitcoin-now-has-higher-market-cap-than-russian-currency/articleshow/89965723.cms?from=mdr)by market cap. I couldn't find 100% legit reports of this, though.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: buwaytress on March 27, 2022, 04:07:04 PM
^Bitcoin surpassed ruble on market cap? That's pretty cool, but more like ruble's come down below Bitcoin's. Milestone nevertheless!

Another can add is what issue that found on Chrome browser, as we all know Chrome is one of the popular browsers and there is issue that found that user could possibly get hacked.

And this has an impact on Bitcoin how? Not the first time a browser will find an issue, not the first time it'll be blamed for some hack here or there, won't be the last time by any means. We need to stop seeing any kind of bad news with general digital security as something relevant to Bitcoin.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Marvelman on March 27, 2022, 04:35:55 PM
After the intital days of panic it became clear that this war will not be start WW3 and it is going to be an isolated conflict.
Well, I'm glad to see that you were so sure about this, because honestly I wasn't. Probably this is the closest we've been to a potential WW3 since the Cold War times: starting a war only a few hundreds miles away from Poland, Germany, Italy... With all due respect with the conflicts in the Middle East and in Africa, this time it could have really escalated. I just hope all this will end ASAP.

I agree, it is too early to say since everything is still possible.

We can, for example, look at the WW2 timeline:
September 1, 1939 - Germany invades Poland, inciting Poland's allies Britain and France to declare war on Germany.
September 17, 1939 - Working in concert with Hitler, Soviet Union invades Poland
September 27, 1939 - Warsaw surrenders to German troops
December 13, 1939 - British cruisers defeat a German pocket battleship, the first major naval engagement of World War II
April 8, 1940 - Germany invades Norway
May 10, 1940 - Germany invades Belgium
June 14, 1940 - Paris falls to German forces. France capitulates 11 days later
December 7, 1941 - Japan attacks Pearl Harbor, starting war with the US. Hitler declares war on America 4 days later.
source article (https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/specialfeatures/world-war-ii-major-events-timeline/)







Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 01, 2022, 02:29:48 AM
After the intital days of panic it became clear that this war will not be start WW3 and it is going to be an isolated conflict.
Well, I'm glad to see that you were so sure about this, because honestly I wasn't. Probably this is the closest we've been to a potential WW3 since the Cold War times: starting a war only a few hundreds miles away from Poland, Germany, Italy... With all due respect with the conflicts in the Middle East and in Africa, this time it could have really escalated. I just hope all this will end ASAP.
Well, it is difficult to know because the conflict is still going on and every time Russia is given more sanctions, it is closer to continuing to escalate the problem and Russia is already seeing that NATO is eager to enter Ukraine with more help from Poland and the countries that are close to Russia, I think that if they are like this, Russia can attack at any time and by attacking a single NATO soldier if the war breaks out, I think that the fact that it has been like this for 1 month and that there is rapid negotiation what it does is to have latent danger, and in the end I don't know if that is what NATO is looking for in the end?



Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Marvell1 on April 01, 2022, 04:33:37 AM
After the intital days of panic it became clear that this war will not be start WW3 and it is going to be an isolated conflict.
Well, I'm glad to see that you were so sure about this, because honestly I wasn't. Probably this is the closest we've been to a potential WW3 since the Cold War times: starting a war only a few hundreds miles away from Poland, Germany, Italy... With all due respect with the conflicts in the Middle East and in Africa, this time it could have really escalated. I just hope all this will end ASAP.
Well, it is difficult to know because the conflict is still going on and every time Russia is given more sanctions, it is closer to continuing to escalate the problem and Russia is already seeing that NATO is eager to enter Ukraine with more help from Poland and the countries that are close to Russia, I think that if they are like this, Russia can attack at any time and by attacking a single NATO soldier if the war breaks out, I think that the fact that it has been like this for 1 month and that there is rapid negotiation what it does is to have latent danger, and in the end I don't know if that is what NATO is looking for in the end?



WW3 wouldn't have happened if nato hadn't intervened in the war, sanctions probably won't bother the Russians too much as it barely affects them. But if Nato sends troops into Ukraine to directly participate in the war, things will become more complicated. Hope NaTo won't do those stupid things.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Argoo on April 01, 2022, 07:03:33 AM
After the intital days of panic it became clear that this war will not be start WW3 and it is going to be an isolated conflict.
Well, I'm glad to see that you were so sure about this, because honestly I wasn't. Probably this is the closest we've been to a potential WW3 since the Cold War times: starting a war only a few hundreds miles away from Poland, Germany, Italy... With all due respect with the conflicts in the Middle East and in Africa, this time it could have really escalated. I just hope all this will end ASAP.
As long as Putin is alive, Russian aggression against Ukraine will continue. Ukrainians have no other choice but to defend their independence with arms in hand. Therefore, the war will continue for a long time.
It should be emphasized that the main result of the first month of the war was the debunking by Ukraine of the myth of the invincibility of the Russian "second army of the world." The courage and professionalism of the Ukrainian army and the unity of its people in the fight against the Russian occupiers caused the well-deserved admiration of the peoples of the whole world.

During the first month of the war, Ukraine "ground" eight out of ten invading armies of Russia, which is 40 percent of its manpower and military equipment, the restoration of which Russia will need at least five years, and it will not have this period under the imposed sanctions.
Think about it, according to the official data of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, on the morning of March 31, the following were destroyed:
- about 17,500 Russian invaders
- 614 tanks,
- 1735 other armored vehicles,
- 135 combat aircraft,
- 131 helicopters,
- 311 artillery systems,
- 96 salvo fire systems,
- 54 air defense systems,
- 1201 automotive equipment,
- 83 drones,
- 7 warships and more.
Just yesterday, another 22 Russian tanks and 24 armored vehicles were destroyed.

As a result of the partial defeat of Russia's military power on the territory of Ukraine, many states declare their territorial claims to Russia. Poland is already openly declaring the illegality of the Russian-occupied Kaliningrad region, Japan about the illegality of the occupied four islands of the South Kuriles. And also Russia occupied part of Moldova, creating a fake Transnistrian Republic there. In 2008, Russia also took part of its territory from Georgia, creating Abkhazia and South Ossetia there. When Russia weakens even more, these countries will definitely return their territories. However, perhaps the greatest appetite for the territory of Russia has so far been its partner China. They are simply waiting for their time to quickly take possession of the territories of Southern Siberia, which previously belonged to China. However, China will certainly not stop there. Russia has opened Pandora's box, from which it will suffer.

Russia has already lost this war. The only question is whether it will retain its statehood after this war. In any case, it will no longer be a superpower, and the world's military and economic potential will be redistributed not in its favor. Of course, the new realities will significantly affect the cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Kakmakr on April 01, 2022, 07:39:49 AM
You forgot about this one ==> https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60870100  - Russia considers accepting Bitcoin for oil and gas So if this happens and you consider that the EU relies on Russia for 40% of its gas.... you can just imagine what will happen with the Bitcoin price.  ::)

Then you also have to look what is happening and what happened in the EU with regulations regarding Crypto currencies. See this article 2 days ago : https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/29/europes-landmark-crypto-regulation-is-advancing-but-new-privacy-rules-may-be-more-important/


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: ropyu1978 on April 01, 2022, 11:15:03 AM
A lot has happened, there is sorrow and joy, some are happy and some are injured, some have lost their parents, and there are also countries taking advantage of wars, as well as crypto currency, Ukraine and Russia have started to switch to crypto currency with various reasons, such as Russia switching to crypto currency to avoid various sanctions, when will this war end..??


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: darkangel11 on April 01, 2022, 12:17:17 PM
  • Russian people started to use cryptocurrencies as a way to overcome the sanctions.

To a very small extent. Chain analysis hasn't shown any significant volume rise on Russian exchanges. Most of it is speculation coming from anti bitcoin lobby who wants to fight anonymous exchange and turn people against bitcoin showing it as a tool of the rich and corrupt who want to avoid sanctions.
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Even more incidents took place during the same time period. If something to be added please post it, I'll add to the list.

You forgot about the most important two most important ones IMO, that made bitcoin recover from its downtrend:
EU voted against PoS ban
Do Kwon, founder of Luna, is now buying bitcoin to back his coin. He really bought bitcoin worth 1 billion USD and is planning to buy 3 times more.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Slimzeee on April 01, 2022, 07:12:23 PM
Crypto.com official sponsor of FIFA. Wow..
I see a very high percentage of people trooping into crypto during and after the Tournament.. Because the world would be watching and lots of doubts to be cleared.. I mean the world..


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Argoo on April 07, 2022, 06:25:57 PM
You forgot about this one ==> https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60870100  - Russia considers accepting Bitcoin for oil and gas So if this happens and you consider that the EU relies on Russia for 40% of its gas.... you can just imagine what will happen with the Bitcoin price.  ::)

Then you also have to look what is happening and what happened in the EU with regulations regarding Crypto currencies. See this article 2 days ago : https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/03/29/europes-landmark-crypto-regulation-is-advancing-but-new-privacy-rules-may-be-more-important/
After the publication of numerous facts of brutal murders of the civilian population by the Russian military in the village of Bucha near Kiev, the entire civilized world took a course towards refusing to purchase energy from Russia.

After the failure of Putin's oil and gas blackmail over payment in rubles, excess barrels of oil began to accumulate in storage facilities in Russia. By April 7, the capacities of the reservoirs were practically exhausted. If a solution is not found soon, Russian refineries will have to be shut down.

The head of Lukoil, Vagit Alekperov, has already warned Russian Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak that soon tens of thousands of people across the country will be left without work.

In the meantime, the Kremlin continues the war against Ukraine, the oil industry of the Russian Federation began to sharply reduce production (by 450,000 barrels per day in early April), as it cannot find buyers for raw materials.

According to Reuters, Russia counted on Chinese support, but Beijing refused to buy additional fuel in May, despite huge discounts offered by Moscow. Individual Chinese companies buy Russian coal and oil, but the payments are made in yuan.

Sergey Lavrov's visit to India, where he personally flew to sign a lucrative contract, did not justify itself either. Delhi agreed to only a meager 15 million barrels. This will not save Russia.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: virasog on April 07, 2022, 06:33:01 PM
A month got over on war between Ukraine and Russia. Here I would like to point out things that happened with bitcoin during this time period.

  • The market was moving around $39k and on the sudden invasion of Russian force into Ukraine the markets crashed close to $35k.
  • Coinbase paid a hacker $250k for saving a billions worth cryptocurrencies. If this has happened the market would've turned downwards further.
  • Western Nations decided to cut off Swift from Russia.
  • Once again eBay came with the plans of accepting bitcoin as payment, but this has been a story for long years.
  • Sanctions made over Russia and this time US asks cryptocurrency exchanges to follow the same rules of sanctions. The same is being requested by the Ukraine Vice Prime Minister.
  • Russian people started to use cryptocurrencies as a way to overcome the sanctions.
  • Visa and MasterCard stopped their services in Russia.
  • Women's Day event took place around the globe with different surveys detailed the increase of women into cryptocurrency.
  • Biden Signed the Crypto executive order which made the market progress to small extent.
  • A bitcoin address holding 489BTC got active after a 11.4 years.
  • Elon Musk made a tweet of holding bitcoin and ethereum, mentioned he won't sell it. This time his tweet didn't made any impact on the market.
  • Official announcement on receiving donation in terms of cryptocurrencies were posted by Ukraine Government. Until now more than $65million received.
  • Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy signed the law to officially legalize cryptocurrency.
  • Crypto.com is now an official sponsor for the FIFA.

Even more incidents took place during the same time period. If something to be added please post it, I'll add to the list.

Do you think that all these events are responsible for the bitcoin price movements ? I don't think that bitcoin sole depends upon the fundamentals. These are only the news which the whales and institutions takes in combination of lots of other factors to derive the market in certain direction. The mission is always the same, whales/institutions and exchanges to make more money from the retailers.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: yohananaomi on April 10, 2022, 06:33:11 AM
it is very unfortunate that something like this happened and it will obviously have an impact on the situation in their country. with an invasion like this of course there is no profit, even loss for them. In fact, the two leaders were able to have a good dialogue and were able to resolve it peacefully because the civilians in Ukraine were directly affected.

Sanctions made over Russia and this time US asks cryptocurrency exchanges to follow the same rules of sanctions. The same is being requested by the Ukraine Vice Prime Minister.
Russian people started to use cryptocurrencies as a way to overcome the sanctions
Visa and MasterCard stopped their services in Russia.
but according to information circulating that Binance, the world's largest crypto exchange, Coinbase Global Inc, and US-based Kraken said they would remain in Russia, rejecting Ukraine's calls for a total ban of users in the country.
Of course, it allows Russia to continue to use crypto as a tool for every transaction carried out.

Official announcement on receiving donation in terms of cryptocurrencies were posted by Ukraine Government. Until now more than $65million received.
Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy signed the law to officially legalize cryptocurrency.
Yes, the Ukrainian government received bitcoin and ethereum cryptocurrency donations. These funds will be used to supply equipment for the Ukrainian troops (why not for the people who are experiencing difficulties) following the Russian invasion last week. The donations began to be collected when Russian troops captured two small towns in southeastern Ukraine, as well as the area around the nuclear power plant. Since the seizure, the official Twitter account of the Government of Ukraine has applied for crypto donations.




Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: kryptqnick on April 10, 2022, 11:55:19 AM
WW3 wouldn't have happened if nato hadn't intervened in the war, sanctions probably won't bother the Russians too much as it barely affects them. But if Nato sends troops into Ukraine to directly participate in the war, things will become more complicated. Hope NaTo won't do those stupid things.
Oh, don't worry, NATO is definitely not sending any troops to Ukraine. That being said, keep in mind that many countries stayed away from WW2 initially, allowing Hitler to take one country after another and hoping that at some point he'll just stop. It didn't work, as we all know, because imperialist-oriented dictators don't ever believe they've got enough. Putin's goal is not Ukraine, and Russia can easily take the risk and, say, launch airstrikes on Poland or Lithuania. Or Finland, if it moves forward with joining NATO. So the problem is not with NATO, it's with the indecisiveness of the world, somehow believing that it's better to appease the aggressor, even though it never works. But there's still a chance that Russia will be stopped with Ukrainian blood if the West gives enough support to Ukraine, and Ukraine is largely not even asking for more. We don't want others to go through what we're going, but we do need everything short of sending NATO troops ASAP.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Marvelman on April 10, 2022, 12:08:07 PM
WW3 wouldn't have happened if nato hadn't intervened in the war, sanctions probably won't bother the Russians too much as it barely affects them. But if Nato sends troops into Ukraine to directly participate in the war, things will become more complicated. Hope NaTo won't do those stupid things.

So, NATO troops in Ukraine would be a stupid thing, and Russian troops in Ukraine are OK? By what logic?
Or they did it to provoke a NATO response, which would make the whole problem even worse.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Wind_FURY on April 10, 2022, 12:20:11 PM
If WAR makes the cabal to lose control of the monetary system, leading to hyperinflation, how would the hardest money in the world perform under such conditions?


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: lepbagong on April 11, 2022, 03:52:22 AM
WW3 wouldn't have happened if nato hadn't intervened in the war, sanctions probably won't bother the Russians too much as it barely affects them. But if Nato sends troops into Ukraine to directly participate in the war, things will become more complicated. Hope NaTo won't do those stupid things.

So, NATO troops in Ukraine would be a stupid thing, and Russian troops in Ukraine are OK? By what logic?
Or they did it to provoke a NATO response, which would make the whole problem even worse.

things become complicated when outsiders intervene not to solve the problem but to make things worse. NATO clearly has a specific purpose in this war, I agree with you that the Russian troops in Ukraine are not scary and can accept civilians, Russia is doing it for the purpose of not causing many casualties.
Hopefully this will provide understanding for all parties that sitting at the negotiating table is certainly a better thing.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 11, 2022, 04:07:16 AM
A month got over on war between Ukraine and Russia. Here I would like to point out things that happened with bitcoin during this time period.

  • The market was moving around $39k and on the sudden invasion of Russian force into Ukraine the markets crashed close to $35k.
that took place but does not stay long mate because after a week ? 40k has been broken and continuously holding that level till now.

so best of luck to those who expect best outcome when the war is still on prgress till now.

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Even more incidents took place during the same time period. If something to be added please post it, I'll add to the list.
We are not affected of this war because the war is not in the center of crypto , instead this only keeps telling people how best crypto more than Fiat.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: lornadane on April 11, 2022, 05:21:23 AM
A month got over on war between Ukraine and Russia. Here I would like to point out things that happened with bitcoin during this time period.

  • The market was moving around $39k and on the sudden invasion of Russian force into Ukraine the markets crashed close to $35k.
that took place but does not stay long mate because after a week ? 40k has been broken and continuously holding that level till now.

so best of luck to those who expect best outcome when the war is still on prgress till now.

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Even more incidents took place during the same time period. If something to be added please post it, I'll add to the list.
We are not affected of this war because the war is not in the center of crypto , instead this only keeps telling people how best crypto more than Fiat.


We are not affected by the war but it will have an effect on the movement of the crypto market like what we went through last month.
Even though the crypto world is good it can't compete with fiat right?


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: suryana on April 11, 2022, 09:57:27 AM
The impact of the war that occurred between Russia and Ukraine, which is still continuing to this day, of course has resulted in losses and impacts on the world's economic growth and even some countries have been affected by the war, for example, as happened in the crypto world, which of course indirectly also follows the impact of the war. the war, and we also really hope that the price of bitcoin does not immediately fall freely in the midst of the economic conditions of countries in the world that are experiencing a slight downturn.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Drane007 on April 11, 2022, 10:28:53 AM
Gun vs. Butter: The World Will Never Be the Same #Russia Vs Ukraine War


Although the war is going on between Russia and Ukraine, its impact will be unprecedented on the whole world in the near future.

Let me explain why.


Government spending of finite resources is allocated between guns (defense) and butter (civilian goods).



In imperial times, government (Empire) spending on defense was 70%, but before this war, the average spending of world nations on defense was 6%, which means they have been spending more on civilian goods in opposition to defense from imperial times.

That shows that world nations have been focusing more on the welfare of society at large and trying to have peaceful relationships with other nations, so they do not need to spend more on defense.

Suddenly, due to the possibility of war and concerns that war could happen in the near future, As a result, certain governments have increased their spending on defense significantly and will likely increase it in the future.


This will cause governments to spend less on civil goods, such as the global health infrastructure initiative, combating global warming, hunger, education, and so on.

I would like to conclude with a great man's saying, "War is always a failure. It means we've failed in diplomacy and we've failed in talking to one another."


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: kotajikikox on April 11, 2022, 10:52:04 AM
A lot has happened, there is sorrow and joy, some are happy and some are injured, some have lost their parents, and there are also countries taking advantage of wars, as well as crypto currency, Ukraine and Russia have started to switch to crypto currency with various reasons, such as Russia switching to crypto currency to avoid various sanctions, when will this war end..??
ending this war? who knows when to happen? what I am sure of ? there will never be a winner in War, yeah it may give Name for the successful but will never bring betterment for everyone .
I hate war as i hate evil works, there are always casualty in war and people dying either innocent of involve so Please let this stop and will never happen again.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: AicecreaME on April 11, 2022, 11:30:54 AM
A lot has happened, there is sorrow and joy, some are happy and some are injured, some have lost their parents, and there are also countries taking advantage of wars, as well as crypto currency, Ukraine and Russia have started to switch to crypto currency with various reasons, such as Russia switching to crypto currency to avoid various sanctions, when will this war end..??

Indeed. There are so many challenges that happened in a short span of time most especially between Russia and Ukraine which have conflicts among them. Several issues are the root causes that are still haven't resolved up until now since Russia doesn't want to back down and Ukraine has to maintain their defense as well. If these things will keep on happening, a lot of people will continue to lose their lives in the war. Many structures such as homes and establisements will be damaged and maybe could be brought into collapse. Which is why hopefully, this will soon end.

However, it seems that NATO wants to be part of the picture due to Russia's attacks to Ukraine. If they would come forward to defend Ukraine, surely this war will not be over, but rather be worse. Because Russia do not want any intervention most especially of NATO. If any country or organization dare to cross them, certainly they will raise and level up the war.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: pooya87 on April 11, 2022, 01:09:06 PM
Although the war is going on between Russia and Ukraine, its impact will be unprecedented on the whole world in the near future.
I disagree. It is also clear from the past month that it is not affecting the "whole" world. It is just affecting Russia and Ukraine (obviously!) and any country that depended on these two countries for goods (wheat, energy, ...) namely many of the European countries. It is also affecting countries with big but weak economies, that would be U.S.

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Government spending of finite resources is allocated between guns (defense) and butter (civilian goods).
There is nothing new about this!

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That shows that world nations have been focusing more on ~ trying to have peaceful relationships with other nations,
You do realize that this is not the only war going on right?
It is not even the biggest one in the past decade (geographically, number of casualties, duration, destruction, people displacement, number of countries involved). If they were focusing on peaceful relations we wouldn't have had this many wars so far!


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: zaesvlas on April 11, 2022, 01:35:57 PM
I have said it more than once, and I will continue to say it. People have so many resources for useful inventions, and most of the money is still spent on wars and weapons.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: JohnBitCo on April 11, 2022, 02:33:50 PM
The impact of the war that occurred between Russia and Ukraine, which is still continuing to this day, of course has resulted in losses and impacts on the world's economic growth and even some countries have been affected by the war, for example, as happened in the crypto world, which of course indirectly also follows the impact of the war. the war, and we also really hope that the price of bitcoin does not immediately fall freely in the midst of the economic conditions of countries in the world that are experiencing a slight downturn.

Unless and until the war between Ukraine and Russia is completely over, we will not see stability and positive momentum in bitcoin prices. There is a risk that any bad news between these two countries can suddenly dump the whole crypto market. So those who are trading should trade with care and do not let open your trades without any stop loss. Unfortunately, the possibility of a world war is still not over.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Alisha-k on April 11, 2022, 03:15:56 PM
The Russians has no choice but to embrace crypto at the moment else the will just have to face the reality of their declining economy. Bitcoin price is not getting enough stability because Bitcoin is spent more than it is held especially with  the high level of anonymous donations across the Ukrainian boarders. We just hope to see an end to the long standing war


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: tygeade on April 11, 2022, 09:58:15 PM
There are so many challenges that happened in a short span of time most especially between Russia and Ukraine which have conflicts among them. Several issues are the root causes that are still haven't resolved up until now since Russia doesn't want to back down and Ukraine has to maintain their defense as well. If these things will keep on happening, a lot of people will continue to lose their lives in the war. Many structures such as homes and establisements will be damaged and maybe could be brought into collapse. Which is why hopefully, this will soon end.
I would guess that NATO will not be part of it in the military sense, they will not send soldiers for sure. That would mean basically attacking Russia directly, even if it is defensive reasoning, that will make Russia very angry and even though they are the ones who are wrong, they "may" use nukes in that sense.

This is why it is quite difficult to know what they will do, they are the ones who are wrong to attack Ukraine, but they are so disgusting that if you do not let them have Ukraine, then they may end up attacking the whole world, they are that bad. Well I have to emphasize that it is not "Russians" here, it is just Putin and people who love him and follow him, I am sure there are nice Russians there who are against this war as well.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Wimex on April 11, 2022, 10:35:00 PM
I would like to add a recent news, that the Council of the European Union decided to ban cryptoactive services in Russia, due to the possibility that they resort to this method, for which they took precautions and restrictions of certain cryptographic services, this was one of the three financial measures that the European Commission presented before the EU Council together with the prohibition of transactions and the freezing of assets related to four Russian banks as well as the option of instructing the citizens of that country on trust.

SOURCE: https://cointelegraph.com/news/eu-bans-providing-high-value-crypto-asset-services-to-russia


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: TopT3ns on April 11, 2022, 11:08:51 PM
Unless and until the war between Ukraine and Russia is completely over, we will not see stability and positive momentum in bitcoin prices. There is a risk that any bad news between these two countries can suddenly dump the whole crypto market. So those who are trading should trade with care and do not let open your trades without any stop loss. Unfortunately, the possibility of a world war is still not over.
Bad impact war and give moment for bitcoin dump drastically beside still not any way when war between Russia and Ukraine stopping, I think bitcoin still not get good momentum recovery and back to higher price after today drop drastically and lower price until $39,200. Will be the era bitcoin above $65,000 never have chance to see again? very bad if war impact have chance about bitcoin price drastically dump and I hope this war can ended soon for helping many citizen from Ukraine as war victim and right now many of them leaving their home to get more safety.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: CaVO32 on April 11, 2022, 11:38:09 PM
I would like to add a recent news, that the Council of the European Union decided to ban cryptoactive services in Russia, due to the possibility that they resort to this method, for which they took precautions and restrictions of certain cryptographic services, this was one of the three financial measures that the European Commission presented before the EU Council together with the prohibition of transactions and the freezing of assets related to four Russian banks as well as the option of instructing the citizens of that country on trust.

SOURCE: https://cointelegraph.com/news/eu-bans-providing-high-value-crypto-asset-services-to-russia

This I think, is about to happen as they are looking at crypto market to be one way for Russia to avail services bypassing some of their sanctions. Things will be more clear in the coming months as they implement those sanctions to Russia. But for now, we need to see the end of this war so people can rebuild their lives and move on from this terrible period.
Because as war continues, more innocent people will die and the harder to rebuild their nation again. I wonder what is Putin's state of mind right now, as their side is also losing heavily on this war.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: TravelMug on April 12, 2022, 01:13:26 AM
Unless and until the war between Ukraine and Russia is completely over, we will not see stability and positive momentum in bitcoin prices. There is a risk that any bad news between these two countries can suddenly dump the whole crypto market. So those who are trading should trade with care and do not let open your trades without any stop loss. Unfortunately, the possibility of a world war is still not over.
Bad impact war and give moment for bitcoin dump drastically beside still not any way when war between Russia and Ukraine stopping, I think bitcoin still not get good momentum recovery and back to higher price after today drop drastically and lower price until $39,200. Will be the era bitcoin above $65,000 never have chance to see again? very bad if war impact have chance about bitcoin price drastically dump and I hope this war can ended soon for helping many citizen from Ukraine as war victim and right now many of them leaving their home to get more safety.

Not sure if the dump has something to do with the war itself.

I mean there is also some selling pressure when we reach the top price of $48k, and slowly we have seen it the price going down and then hold.

But in the last week, it's very different, the market just decided to cash out again, because the pressure is too much already. The conflict will be there no doubt, but the effect won't be that big long term, it's just that the market chooses to cash out right now.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Vaskiy on April 12, 2022, 01:44:23 PM
Due to invasion of Ukraine by Russia the world market declined for some time period. Further sanctions on Russia made the people and the government suffer as they weren't able to make any transactions. As a result Russian people started to use bitcoin. This continues to the extent of Russia making a decision on selling oil and natural gas in exchange for Rubles. As most of the western nations import oil and natural gas from Russia, there is big issue and every Countries contempts it. One amongst is Germany.

Now Germany have come up with plans of looking for  alternative sources of energy and phase out its reliance on Russian oil and gas in the wake of Moscow's invasion of Ukraine. The plant, with 5,800 modules on 360 floating elements, will go into service on May 24. Following this we can see more countries getting into the generation of alternative energy source than depending over Russia.

German firm builds floating solar plant on quarry lake (https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/german-firm-builds-floating-solar-plant-quarry-lake-2022-04-11)


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Argoo on April 12, 2022, 03:57:10 PM
Although the war is going on between Russia and Ukraine, its impact will be unprecedented on the whole world in the near future.
I disagree. It is also clear from the past month that it is not affecting the "whole" world. It is just affecting Russia and Ukraine (obviously!) and any country that depended on these two countries for goods (wheat, energy, ...) namely many of the European countries. It is also affecting countries with big but weak economies, that would be U.S.

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Government spending of finite resources is allocated between guns (defense) and butter (civilian goods).
There is nothing new about this!

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That shows that world nations have been focusing more on ~ trying to have peaceful relationships with other nations,
You do realize that this is not the only war going on right?
It is not even the biggest one in the past decade (geographically, number of casualties, duration, destruction, people displacement, number of countries involved). If they were focusing on peaceful relations we wouldn't have had this many wars so far!
Do you think that this is not the biggest war in the last decade? It is hardly worth agreeing with this. Now, actually and directly, three states are participating in the war: Russia, which unleashed it, Belarus, from whose territory Russian troops invaded, fighters and bombers take off, and high-precision missiles are launched, as well as Ukraine, which was attacked. The war is now being waged on the territory of Ukraine, but it may well be transferred to the territory of other belligerent countries. Military airfields in the Rostov region of Russia, warehouses with fuel and ammunition in Belgorod have already been attacked, today a railway bridge in the Belgorod region was blown up, along which the Russians transferred equipment and ammunition to Ukraine. Now evaluate what common territory these three belligerent states occupy.

However, more and more states are indirectly drawn into this war due to the support of Ukraine with weapons. The United States, other NATO countries, England and even countries that were considered neutral and non-bloc provided the strongest support with weapons. Recently, the United States decided to help Ukraine through Lend-Lease, which has not happened since the Second World War. And this is not only weapons, but also medicines, any equipment and even food. Today, the EU countries have unanimously decided to support Ukraine with weapons, and we are already talking about tanks and other heavy weapons. Finland and Norway also decided to support Ukraine with weapons. The scale of the conflict is growing.

It would not be out of place to recall that Russia has already lost in Ukraine killed and wounded more than 40,000 of its military, 732 tanks, 1946 armored vehicles, 157 aircraft, 140 helicopters, 349 artillery systems, 111 multiple launch rocket systems, 63 air defense systems, 1406 vehicles, 124 UAV, 7 ships and other equipment. The numbers are impressive. She had not suffered such losses before in any wars since the Second World War.

After the defeat, Russia is now regrouping and concentrating its troops and equipment in eastern Ukraine, where grandiose battles are planned with the participation of thousands of tanks, aircraft and other equipment. Experts are already saying that this will be reminiscent of the biggest battles of World War II.

What military conflicts of recent decades can compare with this?


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Oasisman on April 12, 2022, 05:53:32 PM
The impact of the war that occurred between Russia and Ukraine, which is still continuing to this day, of course has resulted in losses and impacts on the world's economic growth and even some countries have been affected by the war, for example, as happened in the crypto world, which of course indirectly also follows the impact of the war. the war, and we also really hope that the price of bitcoin does not immediately fall freely in the midst of the economic conditions of countries in the world that are experiencing a slight downturn.

Unless and until the war between Ukraine and Russia is completely over, we will not see stability and positive momentum in bitcoin prices. There is a risk that any bad news between these two countries can suddenly dump the whole crypto market. So those who are trading should trade with care and do not let open your trades without any stop loss. Unfortunately, the possibility of a world war is still not over.

Why?
But I've seen Bitcoin had a positive momentum from the past couple of week after people decides to sell again after Bitcoin touched $47k.
Some of those events could've turn Btc to being bullish again after millions of donations are pouring to Ukraine and their president officially signed to legalized cryptocurrency in their country.
I don't think the war would cause a huge negative effect on cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: zaesvlas on April 12, 2022, 06:24:26 PM
Putin starts the situation further and further. What can you say about the escalation of relations with Finland?


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: glendall on April 12, 2022, 08:45:49 PM

Another one is that Putin made a statement for international companies having their operations in Russia to vacate their representatives else they face his life threatening sanction.

It's very very unfortunate if so, Russia is very arrogant in my opinion, like there is no need for other countries, even though the country is rich but don't they need help from other people/countries
Sometimes I wonder if the Russian people think the same as the head of state?


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Gyfts on April 12, 2022, 08:54:09 PM
Due to invasion of Ukraine by Russia the world market declined for some time period. Further sanctions on Russia made the people and the government suffer as they weren't able to make any transactions. As a result Russian people started to use bitcoin. This continues to the extent of Russia making a decision on selling oil and natural gas in exchange for Rubles. As most of the western nations import oil and natural gas from Russia, there is big issue and every Countries contempts it. One amongst is Germany.

Now Germany have come up with plans of looking for  alternative sources of energy and phase out its reliance on Russian oil and gas in the wake of Moscow's invasion of Ukraine. The plant, with 5,800 modules on 360 floating elements, will go into service on May 24. Following this we can see more countries getting into the generation of alternative energy source than depending over Russia.

German firm builds floating solar plant on quarry lake (https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/german-firm-builds-floating-solar-plant-quarry-lake-2022-04-11)

This is the wrong approach, but not unexpected. Green energy won't meet immediate energy demands. Germans will face higher prices because they'll need to sink the cost of R&D involved in green energy expansion and invest in the infrastructure. The ROI happens over decades. If they were smart they would not have depended on Russian oil to begin with, but the Germans laughed when Donald Trump suggested Nord Stream 2 construction wasn't a good idea.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Fatunad on April 12, 2022, 08:55:37 PM

Another one is that Putin made a statement for international companies having their operations in Russia to vacate their representatives else they face his life threatening sanction.

It's very very unfortunate if so, Russia is very arrogant in my opinion, like there is no need for other countries, even though the country is rich but don't they need help from other people/countries
Sometimes I wonder if the Russian people think the same as the head of state?
Not all would really be in line on what their leader had been doing but in overall they would really be included on bad impressions on what global countries would really be treating since they do live on a place like this.
Sanctions is already imposed and the next effects could really be felt as this situation becomes more longer and lasting out. Investors and companies would totally be going to stop and go away considering on whats
the behavior of Russia on this recent times which we could not really blame off on why they do really have this kind point of view.They might not be needing them off as of this moment
but soon they would realize.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: pooya87 on April 13, 2022, 05:56:50 AM
Do you think that this is not the biggest war in the last decade?
It is a big war and is affecting a lot of innocent people but it is not the biggest war at all in the past decade. The media coverage of it is by far the biggest in history though!

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three states are participating in the war: Russia, which unleashed it, Belarus,
The war against ISIS that took place in West Asia mainly between 2014 and 2017 with about 80 countries involved. During this time a new "country" was declared occupying territories bigger than Ukraine and later destroyed after 3+ years of war. This was not short of being a world war.
The number of civilian casualties are in the hundreds of thousands (more than half of them are killed by US coalition bombs!) and it is estimated that 11 million people were displaced due to this war (7.5 million from Syria and 3.5 million from Iraq and some from other territories).

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What military conflicts of recent decades can compare with this?
Want another bigger conflict? How about the invasion of Yemen?
The Arab-US coalition have been bombing Yemen for the past 8 years. The casualties are 75000 civilians killed or wounded 8000 of which are children. 7819 Commercial facilities, 774 food silos, 4134 agricultural land, 1090 schools/kindergartens/universities, 827 medical facilities, 15 civilian airfields, 16 ports, 4743 roads and bridges, 600,000 houses, .... were destroyed.
Not to mention what UNICEF calls "the largest humanitarian crises in the world, with around 23.7 million people in need of assistance".


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on April 13, 2022, 06:41:37 AM

It's very very unfortunate if so, Russia is very arrogant in my opinion, like there is no need for other countries, even though the country is rich but don't they need help from other people/countries
Sometimes I wonder if the Russian people think the same as the head of state?

If the Europeans were not fed fake news, and the interested people themselves opened their eyes wider and tried to find out the news from the other side, then many would understand the essence of everything that Russia was motivated by in connection with the special operation in Ukraine. But today, the news background works ahead of events, creating a negative attitude towards Russia.
But according to the latest statistical polls, Putin is supported by more than 80 percent of the Russian population. Thus, the dislike of Nazism happening in Ukraine is justified. To everyone who listens to the news only from one side, it will someday be a revelation how stupidly and harshly they were deceived. But of course, it's their choice.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Accardo on April 13, 2022, 07:35:24 AM
It's sad at one end that Ukraine began a fresh year with Russia invading their country with armed military men and rocket attacks. Despite the bounce back of the Ukrainian army their economy must have suffered rigorously for the Government to legalize cryptocurrency as a means to survive and get financial help from people. The new order may help the price of bitcoin but, the life of civilians lost including kids saddens the world about this war. And the numerous sanctions on Russia seems sacrosanct on the actions of Putin. I think the war will not end soon if Ukraine doesn't get physical help from nearby countries and also invade Russia as well. Because it's a war and it shouldn't be one sided. Putin will not feel the pain of sanctions compared to the sadness on Zelenskky's face watching the life of His citizens scattered around the world seeking for shelter elsewhere while in the process falling into the hands of traffickers and other dangers. Russia is actually feeling no pains though we have our loved ones there but, it's time this betrayal ends and Ukraine allowed to fix her nation again.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Wimex on April 13, 2022, 06:12:23 PM
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The market was moving around $39k and on the sudden invasion of Russian force into Ukraine the markets crashed close to $35k.

What happened between Russia and Ukraine gave a different perspective of cryptocurrencies which have always been classified as fluctuating and a way of saving to deal with events like these, but the drastic decline that major currencies like Bitcoin had showed that it is not they are totally safe, that their integration into the financial markets of the countries affects these assets in a certain way, making them more volatile than normal. But despite everything that has happened, cryptocurrencies are still the best option, especially BTC, so much so that both countries chose to integrate them immediately to deal with their confrontation, Russia to save itself from sanctions and Ukraine to help its people by receiving donations.

 


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: uneng on April 13, 2022, 07:23:54 PM
The direct impact of cryptocurrencies on the war after a month:

Ukraine’s Crypto Donations Reach the $100 Million Mark (https://tickernews.co/ukraines-crypto-donations-reach-the-100-million-mark/)

If it wasn't for cryptocurrencies, a big portion of that money wouldn't make its way to help ukrainian military forces and civilians, so Satoshi Nakamoto has also a kind of participation on this whole process, thankfully.

It means crypto is helping Ukraine to resist for longer and to feed and warm citizens who are losing their houses on russian attacks.

How much do you think Ukraine is going to collect through cryptocurrencies in another month of war?


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: virasog on April 13, 2022, 11:43:24 PM
The direct impact of cryptocurrencies on the war after a month:

Ukraine’s Crypto Donations Reach the $100 Million Mark (https://tickernews.co/ukraines-crypto-donations-reach-the-100-million-mark/)

If it wasn't for cryptocurrencies, a big portion of that money wouldn't make its way to help ukrainian military forces and civilians, so Satoshi Nakamoto has also a kind of participation on this whole process, thankfully.

It means crypto is helping Ukraine to resist for longer and to feed and warm citizens who are losing their houses on russian attacks.

How much do you think Ukraine is going to collect through cryptocurrencies in another month of war?

This is new learning for Ukraine and even for the world. Everyone has seen how easy it was to donate to a country where physical access was too much difficult in times of war.
I am sure, Ukraine realizing the importance of crypto, will make this a permanent means to collect funds for months to come because, after the war, they would be needing even more money to rebuild their cities.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Argoo on April 14, 2022, 06:23:03 AM

It's very very unfortunate if so, Russia is very arrogant in my opinion, like there is no need for other countries, even though the country is rich but don't they need help from other people/countries
Sometimes I wonder if the Russian people think the same as the head of state?

If the Europeans were not fed fake news, and the interested people themselves opened their eyes wider and tried to find out the news from the other side, then many would understand the essence of everything that Russia was motivated by in connection with the special operation in Ukraine. But today, the news background works ahead of events, creating a negative attitude towards Russia.
But according to the latest statistical polls, Putin is supported by more than 80 percent of the Russian population. Thus, the dislike of Nazism happening in Ukraine is justified. To everyone who listens to the news only from one side, it will someday be a revelation how stupidly and harshly they were deceived. But of course, it's their choice.
If you want to justify the military invasion of ten Russian armies into Ukraine, then you need to provide at least some facts for this. You even repeat after Putin that Russia did not unleash a war in Ukraine, but is conducting some kind of special operation there. What is this "special operation"? In "denazification", that is, in the destruction of Ukrainians as a nation, because Putin spoke in favor of the fact that such a nation does not exist? Russian soldiers kill, rob and rape civilians in Ukraine, destroying entire population centers with schools, hospitals and other infrastructure. At the same time, I have not heard that at least one Russian soldier said that he saw a nationalist in Ukraine. Ukrainian patriots who give a worthy rebuff to the invaders cannot be called nationalists, because they protect their people, their territory from the total genocide of Russian nationalists.

In Russia, indeed, according to polls, about 84 percent of the population support the war of conquest in Ukraine. This is the result of many years of zombification of Russians by their media. We will see what opinion the Russians will have about this war at least in a year.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 16, 2022, 05:28:39 PM
A month got over on war between Ukraine and Russia. Here I would like to point out things that happened with bitcoin during this time period.

  • The market was moving around $39k and on the sudden invasion of Russian force into Ukraine the markets crashed close to $35k.
  • Coinbase paid a hacker $250k for saving a billions worth cryptocurrencies. If this has happened the market would've turned downwards further.
  • Western Nations decided to cut off Swift from Russia.
  • Once again eBay came with the plans of accepting bitcoin as payment, but this has been a story for long years.
  • Sanctions made over Russia and this time US asks cryptocurrency exchanges to follow the same rules of sanctions. The same is being requested by the Ukraine Vice Prime Minister.
  • Russian people started to use cryptocurrencies as a way to overcome the sanctions.
  • Visa and MasterCard stopped their services in Russia.
  • Women's Day event took place around the globe with different surveys detailed the increase of women into cryptocurrency.
  • Biden Signed the Crypto executive order which made the market progress to small extent.
  • A bitcoin address holding 489BTC got active after a 11.4 years.
  • Elon Musk made a tweet of holding bitcoin and ethereum, mentioned he won't sell it. This time his tweet didn't made any impact on the market.
  • Official announcement on receiving donation in terms of cryptocurrencies were posted by Ukraine Government. Until now more than $65million received.
  • Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy signed the law to officially legalize cryptocurrency.
  • Crypto.com is now an official sponsor for the FIFA.

Even more incidents took place during the same time period. If something to be added please post it, I'll add to the list.

Do you think that all these events are responsible for the bitcoin price movements ? I don't think that bitcoin sole depends upon the fundamentals. These are only the news which the whales and institutions takes in combination of lots of other factors to derive the market in certain direction. The mission is always the same, whales/institutions and exchanges to make more money from the retailers.

Here this confirms to me that what I have read in the books is what is real, firstly a fundamental to move the market, secondly to move the market you need whales / strong hands, and thirdly manipulate, but manipulate the emotions of people, with the panic or with the emotion of buying, and that is only achieved through the media, and since we have so many tools so popular that a simple influencer of a statement so that the mass ends up buying or selling According to the advice of that influencer, I think that in these times things move that way, what remains to be thought is that what is referred to as manipulation is now easier.

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Well, that's how you say it, yes, and it should be, that is, the person who kept her unemployed for that period of time must have a large amount of money by now, surely her life has already been totally fixed, which What remains for that person or those people is to ask God to give them a lot of life and health so that they can enjoy at least a part of all that money.

Of course it is a supposition, if a person kept it in that period without extracting them, at this time he would not do it, he would expect the price to grow more, if he waited more than 12 years, it is difficult for him to wait longer until it rises to more than $100k?



Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: 7788bitcoin on April 17, 2022, 01:53:01 PM
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In Russia, indeed, according to polls, about 84 percent of the population support the war of conquest in Ukraine. This is the result of many years of zombification of Russians by their media. We will see what opinion the Russians will have about this war at least in a year.
Which poll says that 84 percent of the population support war. As if no other countries media will be spreading propaganda what the government or the authorities who is in control of the narrative wants to portrait. Woke and cancel culture is due to the media zombification  :D.

I am not supporting any war but the fact is tension are rising in many parts of the world and i really think it is related to inflation and other economic struggles and to divert the attention these things are happening so that the focus will be on war and not the real issues a common person is facing.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Vadi2323 on April 18, 2022, 03:29:01 AM
If the Europeans were not fed fake news, and the interested people themselves opened their eyes wider and tried to find out the news from the other side, then many would understand the essence of everything that Russia was motivated by in connection with the special operation in Ukraine. But today, the news background works ahead of events, creating a negative attitude towards Russia.
But according to the latest statistical polls, Putin is supported by more than 80 percent of the Russian population. Thus, the dislike of Nazism happening in Ukraine is justified. To everyone who listens to the news only from one side, it will someday be a revelation how stupidly and harshly they were deceived. But of course, it's their choice.

Putin's condom is detected.

But I warned all of you that lovesmayfamilis is a scum, and you still doubted...


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 23, 2022, 12:37:20 AM
Seeing and following the news from Ukraine and Russia, I no longer know what Putin's motive is to continue waging a war that makes no sense to it, on the one hand there is a devastated country, a Russian army that is weakening more, I don't know what they are looking for, the destruction in these times is not good, the conflict is seen to be very long-term, I see that the news favors Ukraine, then I see others where they say that they favor RUSSIA, others affirm that the Russian army is very weak, The reality is that the information is already very divided, and it is difficult to establish a rational scheme, the most rational thing is that this ends and no more people suffer, be they Ukrainians, Russians, the war makes no sense.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: coupable on April 23, 2022, 01:38:31 PM

It's very very unfortunate if so, Russia is very arrogant in my opinion, like there is no need for other countries, even though the country is rich but don't they need help from other people/countries
Sometimes I wonder if the Russian people think the same as the head of state?

If the Europeans were not fed fake news, and the interested people themselves opened their eyes wider and tried to find out the news from the other side, then many would understand the essence of everything that Russia was motivated by in connection with the special operation in Ukraine. But today, the news background works ahead of events, creating a negative attitude towards Russia.
But according to the latest statistical polls, Putin is supported by more than 80 percent of the Russian population. Thus, the dislike of Nazism happening in Ukraine is justified. To everyone who listens to the news only from one side, it will someday be a revelation how stupidly and harshly they were deceived. But of course, it's their choice.
Actually we have a devastated country called "Ukraine". What kind of special operation has Russia in Ukraine but to invade it?
By reading into the latest statistical polls you mentioned, we can see how obvious the Russian people is affected by the government propaganda. Thus i doubt if they even have the right to vote freely. I can't tell what would be the opinion of Russian people toward the revive of URSS by invading the lost parts since the nineteens.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on April 23, 2022, 01:50:55 PM

Actually we have a devastated country called "Ukraine". What kind of special operation has Russia in Ukraine but to invade it?
By reading into the latest statistical polls you mentioned, we can see how obvious the Russian people is affected by the government propaganda. Thus i doubt if they even have the right to vote freely. I can't tell what would be the opinion of Russian people toward the revive of URSS by invading the lost parts since the nineteens.

And why does no one think that there is propaganda against Russia? Why did many decide that it was the Russians who were being brainwashed, without being themselves in full understanding of this country? Russia has been hated by America and Europe for a long time, they have been trying to subdue this country for a very long time, and because this does not work, an information war is spreading today. Just ask yourself why do you believe one side? You only eat what is presented to you in your news, but have you ever thought that this could be the most common provocative stuffing?
If someone looks at the evidence from the other side and turns on the brain, then it will be a shame to someone who believes for a very long time in something that is not true. But to be or not to be an idiot is everyone's choice.

It's hard to be a smart person when the crowd demands to be dumb.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: ajochems on April 23, 2022, 09:29:06 PM
The war need to change by the world country.All the countries in the world should influence this war.Or else,it not alone affected the crypto currency,but also the world economy.Most the countries was in huge economic crisis.This war time situation was affected the world economy.The price of the most of the food products was reduced the lot.Even the price of bitcoin reduced the lot.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: bocyaj on April 23, 2022, 09:47:53 PM
The war had affected the price of the bitcoin a lot,the value of the bitcoin was reduced from 65k dollars.After the huge period,the price of bitcoin was reduced below the 40k dollars.This is best time to inverse the money in bitcoin.With a short period of time,the price of bitcoin will increase back to 50k dollars.So hold your bitcoin or buy maximum amount of bitcoin now.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Ultegra134 on April 24, 2022, 06:22:13 PM
The war had affected the price of the bitcoin a lot,the value of the bitcoin was reduced from 65k dollars.After the huge period,the price of bitcoin was reduced below the 40k dollars.This is best time to inverse the money in bitcoin.With a short period of time,the price of bitcoin will increase back to 50k dollars.So hold your bitcoin or buy maximum amount of bitcoin now.
I don't believe that the war has much to do with cryptocurrencies, however, the market has been quite depressing the past two months due to the ongoing crisis. Since the stock market and cryptocurrencies do share some kind of correlation between them, it's expected that crypto won't thrive till the situation improves.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: CaVO32 on April 24, 2022, 08:24:21 PM
Seeing and following the news from Ukraine and Russia, I no longer know what Putin's motive is to continue waging a war that makes no sense to it, on the one hand there is a devastated country, a Russian army that is weakening more, I don't know what they are looking for, the destruction in these times is not good, the conflict is seen to be very long-term, I see that the news favors Ukraine, then I see others where they say that they favor RUSSIA, others affirm that the Russian army is very weak, The reality is that the information is already very divided, and it is difficult to establish a rational scheme, the most rational thing is that this ends and no more people suffer, be they Ukrainians, Russians, the war makes no sense.


We don't know where this is heading anymore. I believe, Putin didn't expect that Ukraine will put up a good fight. I think, he was expecting that he will conquer Ukraine fast and easy. But the turn of events are telling us that Ukraine won't give up their freedom anytime soon, hence, they are fighting even without so many resources on hand. But with the help of other countries, they survive this long. Even foreign soldiers are willing to die fighting for Ukraine. This I believe, was not expected by Putin. This event showed a lot to the world not only in crypto - because it is now part of the donation history, but to all the people who don't want war in this digital age. We thought we are already over in this kind of violence but we are not.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Slow death on April 24, 2022, 09:09:50 PM

Actually we have a devastated country called "Ukraine". What kind of special operation has Russia in Ukraine but to invade it?
By reading into the latest statistical polls you mentioned, we can see how obvious the Russian people is affected by the government propaganda. Thus i doubt if they even have the right to vote freely. I can't tell what would be the opinion of Russian people toward the revive of URSS by invading the lost parts since the nineteens.

And why does no one think that there is propaganda against Russia? Why did many decide that it was the Russians who were being brainwashed, without being themselves in full understanding of this country? Russia has been hated by America and Europe for a long time, they have been trying to subdue this country for a very long time, and because this does not work, an information war is spreading today. Just ask yourself why do you believe one side? You only eat what is presented to you in your news, but have you ever thought that this could be the most common provocative stuffing?
If someone looks at the evidence from the other side and turns on the brain, then it will be a shame to someone who believes for a very long time in something that is not true. But to be or not to be an idiot is everyone's choice.

It's hard to be a smart person when the crowd demands to be dumb.

 ???

I have a very simple question for you:

Will you be happy when your neighbor invades your house, kills all your family? and your neighbor comes to say: "yes, I'm breaking into his house because I don't agree with how he's managing his house, because I don't want him to join organization Z because it will cause danger to my house"

you seeing your dead relatives will you be happy and will you call it a special operation?

What legitimate right does Putin have to kill all Ukrainians? And no, I don't think all Russians agree with these devilish ideas, Russians don't even live in democracy, they are a people repressed by the disguised dictatorship.

no one has the right to kill another person, no one has the right to invade someone else's country, ukraine is a democratic country and has the right to join any organization they want


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: jostorres on April 25, 2022, 08:24:56 PM
Seeing and following the news from Ukraine and Russia, I no longer know what Putin's motive is to continue waging a war that makes no sense to it, on the one hand there is a devastated country, a Russian army that is weakening more, I don't know what they are looking for, the destruction in these times is not good, the conflict is seen to be very long-term, I see that the news favors Ukraine, then I see others where they say that they favor RUSSIA, others affirm that the Russian army is very weak, The reality is that the information is already very divided, and it is difficult to establish a rational scheme, the most rational thing is that this ends and no more people suffer, be they Ukrainians, Russians, the war makes no sense.
Power. That is all he cares about, this isn't a war for those two pieces of land, this isn't even about Ukraine, this is just him showing how powerful he is and no matter what you do, he will always come out on top. Maybe he will actually come out on top, or maybe he won't and this will be a humiliating defeat for him, doesn't look like it so far but he doesn't care about the result since he thinks he knows the result and he will win.

So, he attacks and boosts his power over every other leader. Tell me, can France attack anyone and Macron would still be at the top? Dude doesn't and he still might just lose eventually, it's not always nation vs nation, sometimes it's about leader vs leader.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: GeorgeJohn on April 25, 2022, 08:50:14 PM
I want to get this scenario very well, so those it mean that this Ukraine and Russia crisis's really affecting the marketcap of bitcoin, really from my own perspective and assumptions concerning cryptocurrency that crisis's shouldn't have affected both the price valuables and price tag depreciation, yes of course we noticed changes when cryptocurrency price regulations started moving upward and downward during the fight of Russian and Ukraine, but from normal experience Bitcoin has been fluctuating in price over the year, and this is not going to be the last time.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: romero121 on April 25, 2022, 11:59:21 PM
By now two months and two days have got over. The war continues with regular updates being provided by the news agencies. As of now the war is getting more aggressive with the sending of arms to Ukraine by USA. If I'm not wrong USA needs to make business and it is using the opportunity. Russia have warned USA on sending war arms to Ukraine. Another thing there is talks that Russia has been losing and Ukraine is succeeding. There is nothing as losing and succeeding, the people are dying, the economy is experiencing the worst, and more negative things are happening. Even after different stages of talks nothing has come to an end. Lets pray this should not get carried to the next month.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Ozero on April 26, 2022, 04:50:28 AM
Seeing and following the news from Ukraine and Russia, I no longer know what Putin's motive is to continue waging a war that makes no sense to it, on the one hand there is a devastated country, a Russian army that is weakening more, I don't know what they are looking for, the destruction in these times is not good, the conflict is seen to be very long-term, I see that the news favors Ukraine, then I see others where they say that they favor RUSSIA, others affirm that the Russian army is very weak, The reality is that the information is already very divided, and it is difficult to establish a rational scheme, the most rational thing is that this ends and no more people suffer, be they Ukrainians, Russians, the war makes no sense.

Putin counted on a quick victory over Ukraine within a few days, because he spent billions of dollars on preparing the appropriate favorable soil, and as a result, the allocated money was stolen, and disinformation was slipped to him that the people of Ukraine were ready to meet their "liberators" with flowers. But the reality turned out to be completely different, which Putin did not count on. The people of Ukraine and its armed forces gave a worthy rebuff to the enemy, having eight years of experience in warfare. Putin is bogged down in the war, because of the mistakes made in the first days of the war, Russia suffers colossal losses in manpower and equipment. But Putin is not accustomed to admitting his mistakes, let alone a major defeat. He does not fully control the objective situation, because those close to him do not tell him the whole truth. Therefore, he attacks further, although it is obvious to everyone that the collapse of Russia in this war is inevitable.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: yohananaomi on April 27, 2022, 04:21:48 AM
The war had affected the price of the bitcoin a lot,the value of the bitcoin was reduced from 65k dollars.After the huge period,the price of bitcoin was reduced below the 40k dollars.This is best time to inverse the money in bitcoin.With a short period of time,the price of bitcoin will increase back to 50k dollars.So hold your bitcoin or buy maximum amount of bitcoin now.
it could be that the war has affected it so that there is a decrease in the price of bitcoin. but would it be the same if it weren't for Russia? because we know that Russia is indeed a very large crypto user and maybe it will indeed affect the state of bitcoin because of the sentiment due to the war.
due to the decline that occurred, it is clearly very profitable for those who will indeed invest, because there will be an increase again after that, because sentiment can also change.

I don't believe that the war has much to do with cryptocurrencies, however, the market has been quite depressing the past two months due to the ongoing crisis. Since the stock market and cryptocurrencies do share some kind of correlation between them, it's expected that crypto won't thrive till the situation improves.
Of course, there will be a lot of analysis that might be different, I think that is a pretty normal thing, everyone will have an analysis that could be true.
as you said that the market decline was due to the crisis that had taken place previously, this of course will obviously affect the movement of bitcoin as well.

two different things but actually all will be affected by the situation to the movement of bitcoin and it is unavoidable. now is waiting where bitcoin will return to the better and i hope bull market will happen soon, at least when entering the beginning of Q2, will it really happen? we are waiting for that.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Cryptmuster on April 27, 2022, 08:05:26 AM
By now two months and two days have got over. The war continues with regular updates being provided by the news agencies. As of now the war is getting more aggressive with the sending of arms to Ukraine by USA. If I'm not wrong USA needs to make business and it is using the opportunity. Russia have warned USA on sending war arms to Ukraine. Another thing there is talks that Russia has been losing and Ukraine is succeeding. There is nothing as losing and succeeding, the people are dying, the economy is experiencing the worst, and more negative things are happening. Even after different stages of talks nothing has come to an end. Lets pray this should not get carried to the next month.

If the war does not end in the coming months, the consequences of this will be felt by many countries, to which Ukraine exported grain, sunflower oil and other products. The United States should have made a decision much earlier on the supply of heavy weapons, this would have saved a lot of lives, civilians. And perhaps the occupiers would not be able to move so far from east boarder.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: doomloop on April 29, 2022, 08:59:46 AM
If the war does not end in the coming months, the consequences of this will be felt by many countries, to which Ukraine exported grain, sunflower oil and other products. The United States should have made a decision much earlier on the supply of heavy weapons, this would have saved a lot of lives, civilians. And perhaps the occupiers would not be able to move so far from east boarder.
It is not easy to make these type of decisions. I mean UK just recently said that if Russia ever tries their hands with Nuclear weapons, UK will be ready to respond to that with their own Nukes as well. Giving that decision is a hard thing because you are telling the world that "if Russia kills people and hurts the global world by creating inhabitable places, then we will do the same!" which is a shame, the invention of nukes is a big shame.

This is why I believe that we should only make these type of statements, and these type of heavy machinery help, only when we have to and not a minute sooner. USA just felt that there was no other way and this was their only option left.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 29, 2022, 09:02:58 AM
If the war does not end in the coming months, the consequences of this will be felt by many countries, to which Ukraine exported grain, sunflower oil and other products. The United States should have made a decision much earlier on the supply of heavy weapons, this would have saved a lot of lives, civilians. And perhaps the occupiers would not be able to move so far from east boarder.
It is not easy to make these type of decisions. I mean UK just recently said that if Russia ever tries their hands with Nuclear weapons, UK will be ready to respond to that with their own Nukes as well. Giving that decision is a hard thing because you are telling the world that "if Russia kills people and hurts the global world by creating inhabitable places, then we will do the same!" which is a shame, the invention of nukes is a big shame.

This is why I believe that we should only make these type of statements, and these type of heavy machinery help, only when we have to and not a minute sooner. USA just felt that there was no other way and this was their only option left.
The UN though is trying to mediate between the two warring countries. and hopefully it will turn out to be positive because we don't want it to escalate into a full blown war when Putin is talking about not hesitating using nuclear weapons in order to win. So it's a lose-lose situation from both side, EU now turning into a battle ground with many casualties from both side.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Argoo on May 05, 2022, 06:51:34 PM
If the war does not end in the coming months, the consequences of this will be felt by many countries, to which Ukraine exported grain, sunflower oil and other products. The United States should have made a decision much earlier on the supply of heavy weapons, this would have saved a lot of lives, civilians. And perhaps the occupiers would not be able to move so far from east boarder.
It is not easy to make these type of decisions. I mean UK just recently said that if Russia ever tries their hands with Nuclear weapons, UK will be ready to respond to that with their own Nukes as well. Giving that decision is a hard thing because you are telling the world that "if Russia kills people and hurts the global world by creating inhabitable places, then we will do the same!" which is a shame, the invention of nukes is a big shame.

This is why I believe that we should only make these type of statements, and these type of heavy machinery help, only when we have to and not a minute sooner. USA just felt that there was no other way and this was their only option left.
It seems that Putin is not going to weaken the military onslaught on Ukraine, despite the huge losses in manpower and equipment. As of yesterday, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Russia has lost at least 24,700 killed and more than 60,000 wounded (according to Russian reports, Russia lost more than 26,000 people killed alone, about 8,000 soldiers of Russian private companies and about 7,000 mobilized in unrecognized LNR and DNR). Also in Ukraine, 1092 Russian tanks, 2651 armored vehicles, 196 aircraft, 155 helicopters, 499 artillery systems, 169 multiple launch rocket systems, 83 air defense systems, 1907 vehicles, 312 UAVs, 10 ships and boats were destroyed...

The war will certainly have a great impact on other states. There are about 4.5 million tons of wheat in the ports of Ukraine, which were prepared for export. This became impossible due to the blocking of the Black Sea by Russia.

Not only Great Britain is ready to intervene directly in the war on the side of Ukraine. Poland has declared that it is ready to send its troops to the territory of western Ukraine to provide support. The United States said that if Russia uses nuclear, biological or chemical weapons, it can send its troops to Ukraine to protect its territory. The bill has been submitted to the US Congress. The scale of this war is selling to run rampant.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Silberman on May 05, 2022, 10:11:04 PM
It seems that Putin is not going to weaken the military onslaught on Ukraine, despite the huge losses in manpower and equipment. As of yesterday, according to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Russia has lost at least 24,700 killed and more than 60,000 wounded (according to Russian reports, Russia lost more than 26,000 people killed alone, about 8,000 soldiers of Russian private companies and about 7,000 mobilized in unrecognized LNR and DNR). Also in Ukraine, 1092 Russian tanks, 2651 armored vehicles, 196 aircraft, 155 helicopters, 499 artillery systems, 169 multiple launch rocket systems, 83 air defense systems, 1907 vehicles, 312 UAVs, 10 ships and boats were destroyed...

The war will certainly have a great impact on other states. There are about 4.5 million tons of wheat in the ports of Ukraine, which were prepared for export. This became impossible due to the blocking of the Black Sea by Russia.

Not only Great Britain is ready to intervene directly in the war on the side of Ukraine. Poland has declared that it is ready to send its troops to the territory of western Ukraine to provide support. The United States said that if Russia uses nuclear, biological or chemical weapons, it can send its troops to Ukraine to protect its territory. The bill has been submitted to the US Congress. The scale of this war is selling to run rampant.
This is the problem with wars, a conflict that may seem to be local in its nature can easily escalate and include whole regions and in the worst-case scenario the whole world, I am worried because what we are seeing now is somehow similar to what caused WWI, in which the different agreements between the countries escalated to the point a World War became inevitable, the difference is that now the power of the arsenal each country is holding is massive, and if a nuclear war were to breakout then not only the countries directly involved in the war will suffer but the rest of the countries as well as a nuclear winter could take place.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: verita1 on May 05, 2022, 11:12:35 PM
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The US Congress has passed the Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022 to expedite aid to Ukraine – just as Franklin D Roosevelt did.
The sums of money being contemplated in Washington are enormous – a total of $47bn, the equivalent of one third of Ukraine’s prewar GDP. If it is approved by Congress, on top of other western aid, it will mean that we are financing nothing less than a total war.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/04/us-lend-lease-act-ukraine-1941-second-world-war (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/04/us-lend-lease-act-ukraine-1941-second-world-war)

My opinion on this is that the US intends to help Ukraine win the war.
I don't think the intention goes any further. If Congress approves it, there will be a response from Putin. There could be consequences and it is there that the escalation truly transcends.
We are experiencing very hard times and uncertainty, those of us who believe in bitcoin know that we have to hold on.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Argoo on May 06, 2022, 05:34:48 AM
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The US Congress has passed the Ukraine Democracy Defense Lend-Lease Act of 2022 to expedite aid to Ukraine – just as Franklin D Roosevelt did.
The sums of money being contemplated in Washington are enormous – a total of $47bn, the equivalent of one third of Ukraine’s prewar GDP. If it is approved by Congress, on top of other western aid, it will mean that we are financing nothing less than a total war.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/04/us-lend-lease-act-ukraine-1941-second-world-war (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/04/us-lend-lease-act-ukraine-1941-second-world-war)

My opinion on this is that the US intends to help Ukraine win the war.
I don't think the intention goes any further. If Congress approves it, there will be a response from Putin. There could be consequences and it is there that the escalation truly transcends.
We are experiencing very hard times and uncertainty, those of us who believe in bitcoin know that we have to hold on.

If the civilized world had jointly taken tough measures against the military invasion of Russian tanks on the territory of the sovereign state of Georgia in 2008, then there would most likely not have been a subsequent Russian attack on Ukraine in 2014. In 2014, light symbolic sanctions followed against Russia, because they were afraid to anger the aggressor. This prompted Putin to launch a large-scale invasion of Ukraine in order to take over this state and enslave its people in February 2022.

After the publication of the atrocities committed by the invaders against the civilian population of Ukraine, and also due to the heroic resistance of the Ukrainian people to the Russian invasion, and thanks to the effectiveness of such a rebuff, many states finally realized that indulging the aggressor only increases his appetites. That Ukraine will be followed by the Baltic countries, Moldova, Poland. Now the civilized world has seen that the hands of Ukrainians can put an end to such an aggressive monster, which is Russia, and therefore they began to help Ukraine with serious weapons.

The adherents of world peace need to finally understand that evil must be punished, otherwise it will grow and come to your homes. There is no other way out, because impunity breeds new aggression.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: molsewid on May 06, 2022, 04:14:46 PM

If the war does not end in the coming months, the consequences of this will be felt by many countries, to which Ukraine exported grain, sunflower oil and other products. The United States should have made a decision much earlier on the supply of heavy weapons, this would have saved a lot of lives, civilians. And perhaps the occupiers would not be able to move so far from east boarder.

It really affects in my country now, I really felt that. My county is not in the first that's why it really affects our economy, a high raise in oil and other goods are the result of this war. If it will continue in the next few months I don't know what will happen next, many countries want to be involved this will lead to ww3 , I really hope that it will be end soon I don't know how but I hope there will be some agreement now.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 07, 2022, 08:45:58 AM
Seeing and following the news from Ukraine and Russia, I no longer know what Putin's motive is to continue waging a war that makes no sense to it, on the one hand there is a devastated country, a Russian army that is weakening more, I don't know what they are looking for, the destruction in these times is not good, the conflict is seen to be very long-term, I see that the news favors Ukraine, then I see others where they say that they favor RUSSIA, others affirm that the Russian army is very weak, The reality is that the information is already very divided, and it is difficult to establish a rational scheme, the most rational thing is that this ends and no more people suffer, be they Ukrainians, Russians, the war makes no sense.


We don't know where this is heading anymore. I believe, Putin didn't expect that Ukraine will put up a good fight. I think, he was expecting that he will conquer Ukraine fast and easy. But the turn of events are telling us that Ukraine won't give up their freedom anytime soon, hence, they are fighting even without so many resources on hand. But with the help of other countries, they survive this long. Even foreign soldiers are willing to die fighting for Ukraine. This I believe, was not expected by Putin. This event showed a lot to the world not only in crypto - because it is now part of the donation history, but to all the people who don't want war in this digital age. We thought we are already over in this kind of violence but we are not.

Yes, you are right, people with good hearts have made many donations with BTC and that is a very good thing, resistance will always be one of the things that people will fight for, although in the news I have seen that Russia already has more dominance over certain states of UKRAINE, international aid is key here, what I would not like is for a world war to break out in some way because that would be disastrous for everyone on earth, Putin is a person who does not like to lose and who always he does what he says and commands, really what I think he is looking for is to have the UKRAINE for himself and for it to be part of Russia again, what I think is that if he achieves that goal he will continue with Finland, New Zealand...


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: YOUR_BALANCE on May 07, 2022, 09:35:24 AM

...what I think is that if he achieves that goal he will continue with Finland, New Zealand...


This is just a guess. Perhaps the news is lying and specifically scare Putin's attack on Finland and New Zealand. There is an old Russian proverb that says "wait and see" (пoживём - yвидeм).


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: ufaiz50 on May 07, 2022, 10:20:34 AM
I am not sure if he can continue with Finland and New Zealand as he can't even finish the war with the Ukraine and with the sanctions from all the countries I think it would be really hard for him to do that as probably they will cut off the connection and supplies or materials that he can use to strengthen his army.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: darewaller on May 07, 2022, 09:23:46 PM
If the civilized world had jointly taken tough measures against the military invasion of Russian tanks on the territory of the sovereign state of Georgia in 2008, then there would most likely not have been a subsequent Russian attack on Ukraine in 2014. In 2014, light symbolic sanctions followed against Russia, because they were afraid to anger the aggressor. This prompted Putin to launch a large-scale invasion of Ukraine in order to take over this state and enslave its people in February 2022.

After the publication of the atrocities committed by the invaders against the civilian population of Ukraine, and also due to the heroic resistance of the Ukrainian people to the Russian invasion, and thanks to the effectiveness of such a rebuff, many states finally realized that indulging the aggressor only increases his appetites. That Ukraine will be followed by the Baltic countries, Moldova, Poland. Now the civilized world has seen that the hands of Ukrainians can put an end to such an aggressive monster, which is Russia, and therefore they began to help Ukraine with serious weapons.
This isn't even about Russia only, this is about Russia seeing that others are attacking smaller nations and not getting any trouble as well. We have seen Saudi Arabia, china, even African nations all attacking each other and powerful nations do not do anything about it. Look at what happened in Afghanistan, the moment USA removed itself, Taliban took over and that is what we are seeing today.

So, I believe that if we had USA of 20023 period, Russia wouldn't dare to do what they did, but we do not have that so they are attacking anywhere they want since they won't be getting any push back from any nation and they know this. Sanctions didn't matter that much neither, Russian economy is still fine.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: nur rochid on May 07, 2022, 10:35:05 PM
If the civilized world had jointly taken tough measures against the military invasion of Russian tanks on the territory of the sovereign state of Georgia in 2008, then there would most likely not have been a subsequent Russian attack on Ukraine in 2014. In 2014, light symbolic sanctions followed against Russia, because they were afraid to anger the aggressor. This prompted Putin to launch a large-scale invasion of Ukraine in order to take over this state and enslave its people in February 2022.

After the publication of the atrocities committed by the invaders against the civilian population of Ukraine, and also due to the heroic resistance of the Ukrainian people to the Russian invasion, and thanks to the effectiveness of such a rebuff, many states finally realized that indulging the aggressor only increases his appetites. That Ukraine will be followed by the Baltic countries, Moldova, Poland. Now the civilized world has seen that the hands of Ukrainians can put an end to such an aggressive monster, which is Russia, and therefore they began to help Ukraine with serious weapons.
This isn't even about Russia only, this is about Russia seeing that others are attacking smaller nations and not getting any trouble as well. We have seen Saudi Arabia, china, even African nations all attacking each other and powerful nations do not do anything about it. Look at what happened in Afghanistan, the moment USA removed itself, Taliban took over and that is what we are seeing today.

So, I believe that if we had USA of 20023 period, Russia wouldn't dare to do what they did, but we do not have that so they are attacking anywhere they want since they won't be getting any push back from any nation and they know this. Sanctions didn't matter that much neither, Russian economy is still fine.
Strong countries do nothing when war occurs, because they also do not want to be involved further, and all of course there is a calculation formula in a war, if in the end it is not profitable then why fight. a war certainly involves a large capital. but anyway, I think diplomacy is looking for a solution, it would be better than going to war, so that the people don't suffer, of course they are the victims.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: KennyR on May 07, 2022, 10:46:57 PM
If the civilized world had jointly taken tough measures against the military invasion of Russian tanks on the territory of the sovereign state of Georgia in 2008, then there would most likely not have been a subsequent Russian attack on Ukraine in 2014. In 2014, light symbolic sanctions followed against Russia, because they were afraid to anger the aggressor. This prompted Putin to launch a large-scale invasion of Ukraine in order to take over this state and enslave its people in February 2022.

After the publication of the atrocities committed by the invaders against the civilian population of Ukraine, and also due to the heroic resistance of the Ukrainian people to the Russian invasion, and thanks to the effectiveness of such a rebuff, many states finally realized that indulging the aggressor only increases his appetites. That Ukraine will be followed by the Baltic countries, Moldova, Poland. Now the civilized world has seen that the hands of Ukrainians can put an end to such an aggressive monster, which is Russia, and therefore they began to help Ukraine with serious weapons.
So, I believe that if we had USA of 20023 period, Russia wouldn't dare to do what they did, but we do not have that so they are attacking anywhere they want since they won't be getting any push back from any nation and they know this. Sanctions didn't matter that much neither, Russian economy is still fine.
I don't think so, because the decision for war by Russia seems like broadcasting themselves as a strong nation similar to USA. If not there is no need for a war and Russia have now proved to the world that it can operate even when cut-off from the rest of the world. Even in this war the participation of USA will be there indirectly, because every war is a business for the countries who keep the weapons ready for supply.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: TheGhostMan on May 08, 2022, 01:19:00 AM
There is no doubt that this war has not only affected these two countries but has also affected the economy of others, not to mention the rise in oil and in turn the bearish state of cryptocurrencies thanks to the expulsion of several Russian banks from the financial system. . Swift, which has caused many cryptocurrency transactions to take place.
Let's hope these rough waters calm down. Since the political leader of Russia does not want to mediate and only threatens a nuclear war, it only remains to wait for an agreement to be reached and no one else will be affected in this conflict.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: pooya87 on May 08, 2022, 04:48:40 AM
Look at what happened in Afghanistan, the moment USA removed itself, Taliban took over and that is what we are seeing today.
That's not even close to what really happened. Taliban kicked US out of the country, they even received a donation of about $100 billion worth of advanced US military equipment as the US military was escaping Afghanistan.

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Sanctions didn't matter that much neither, Russian economy is still fine.
What sanctions? Everyone is buying Russian gas and oil and everything else.
The only thing that changed was that before the invasion they were paying Russia in USD and now they are paying Russia in Ruble.
Have you checked Ruble exchange rate? It has gone up to its highest value ever since 2020.


Title: Re: A month of WAR
Post by: Argoo on June 02, 2022, 02:09:05 PM
There is no doubt that this war has not only affected these two countries but has also affected the economy of others, not to mention the rise in oil and in turn the bearish state of cryptocurrencies thanks to the expulsion of several Russian banks from the financial system. . Swift, which has caused many cryptocurrency transactions to take place.
Let's hope these rough waters calm down. Since the political leader of Russia does not want to mediate and only threatens a nuclear war, it only remains to wait for an agreement to be reached and no one else will be affected in this conflict.
There is no hope that Russia's war in Ukraine will end in the near future. Most likely, by the autumn it will only grow, as the terminally ill Putin is going to take with him to the grave as many people from both sides of this war as possible and throws into the territory of Ukraine everything he can collect in manpower and equipment. According to some reports, Russia has already lost about 100,000 people in Ukraine in killed and seriously wounded.

The Armed Forces of Ukraine continue to give a worthy rebuff to the invaders, and the brutality of the Russians against the civilian population and civilian infrastructure in Ukraine only strengthens such a rebuff. In Ukraine, there is now an acute shortage of weapons, and if it receives it in the near future, it will be able to counterattack the Russians and completely drive them out of its territory. In Ukraine, they began to treat Russians so negatively, including by the Russian-speaking population, that a peace agreement can only be in the form of surrender of one of the parties.

Whatever the outcome of this war, Russia will be so weakened that it will lose its superpower status and will no longer be a serious player on the international stage, if at all it remains within its borders.

Blocking by Russia in the seaports of Ukraine more than 22 million tons of grain, which were intended for sale on the world market, according to UN forecasts, can lead not only to tension with food, but also to starvation in many developing countries.