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Title: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on April 20, 2022, 06:58:06 PM
It's just for mods to check history and help to ban the user or users.

Congratulations Ratimov. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3455171) is spamming and bumping old threads without any reason. He has already done it for few threads.

I was replaying an old thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2790088.msg59920458#msg59920458) which was bumped by RajaDen. It looked normal to me. Then in another topic I saw Congratulations Ratimov. made a comment (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106904.msg59920488#msg59920488). That looked genuine to me as well. however when I looked at few topic in reputation board and then visited the post page of the user then realized he is spamming. I have already reported some posts. The user should be banned and not sure if Congratulations Ratimov. and RajaDen are the same guy too.


Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: _BlackStar on April 20, 2022, 08:12:45 PM
I don't know what the real motives of the two accounts are, but I really think that the two trolling should learn a valuable lesson at this point.

Someone, don't feed them and simply report the post for deletion. Hopefully the mod can act fast for them.

Rajaden is a different person from the Congratulations Ratimov account, but who knows? they are trolls now who spread hate.


Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: PX-Z on April 20, 2022, 10:43:14 PM
No need to feed the trolls or making a reply on any kind of a thread where their hatred grows. Just hit the report button and report "bumping old thread", hundred percent it will be deleted... Well, together with other replies on the thread.


Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on April 20, 2022, 10:57:04 PM
Nothing against you OP but the irony is you're feeding one such necro-posters lol I saw them necroposting and I instantly reported the post and it got deleted (while your post is still there)

https://i.postimg.cc/pVDsNw9n/Screenshot-2022-04-20-at-23-54-20.png


Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: Smartvirus on April 21, 2022, 09:46:46 AM
Forum has made it possible that, only someone who is truly ignorant or has no regards for warnings would bump an old thread that ought yo have been archived even. It always comes up very clear and in red upon, an attempt to bump comment on such thread. Sadly, some users still gets to go ahead anyway.
I was searching out for some specific rule on spamming but couldn't get it exactly but instead, I guess this goes too.

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Staff do not want to hand out bans for unconstructive posts but if we feel that you as a user are continually making very poor or unsubstantial posts due to your paid signature the following bans will be issued:

First offence: 7 days
Second offence: 14 days
Third offence: 30 days
Fourth: Permanent ban

It's a quote from the global Moderator Hilariousandco on the guidelines of the services board; Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.0). It particularly talks about low quality posts of which, I believe spam posts falls within that category as well as posts that acts in the form of "beating a dead horse" is in itself a spam post.

More over, users aren't banned by there first action but only after a fourth one, if that rule applies. Reporting the post and have it deleted might work just fine too.


Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on April 21, 2022, 08:06:50 PM
Nothing against you OP but the irony is you're feeding one such necro-posters lol I saw them necroposting and I instantly reported the post and it got deleted (while your post is still there)
I did not realize when I replied to the user that it was an old thread. Did not see the topic creation thread, thought it was a recent thread. Then after having doubt, after making two posts I realized I am a victim. I did not take time to report some of the posts immediately and then thought to share it here.


Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: Welsh on April 21, 2022, 09:51:05 PM
I know it feels like a tedious process, and one that isn't acted upon quick enough. However, reporting these sort of things is better for the moderator handling it since they also have a on site record, which they can check or if it's a particular section, will become familiar with users doing this.

Nothing against you OP but the irony is you're feeding one such necro-posters lol I saw them necroposting and I instantly reported the post and it got deleted (while your post is still there)
Generally, if these types of posts are reported also, they get deleted. Sometimes us moderators can miss the posts which quoted the post previously deleted or we simply don't have the permissions ourselves, although then ideally they should report it themselves then. So, if you ever notice that feel free to report it.

Although, the act of replying to someone who's necroposting isn't a massive deal, most users don't check the date before replying so it's easily done.


Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: KingsDen on April 22, 2022, 03:38:13 PM
First, I was surprised that Congratulations Ratimov (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3455171) is a user and not a thread. I quickly clicked the link and noticed that the user has zero post and activity, maybe he deleted his posts.

Secondly, has Ratimov said something about this account, because I am sure he is very much unconnected with the account.

Finally, is there no kind of sensors to determine names that can be registered or not. And if the name is eventually registered and it's proven to be impersonation of an established member, can the account be banned.
I mean someone can just create an account  with "KingsDen's alt", if I deny that it's my account, I think the user needs to be banned.


Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: skarais on April 22, 2022, 03:53:47 PM
Finally, is there no kind of sensors to determine names that can be registered or not. And if the name is eventually registered and it's proven to be impersonation of an established member, can the account be banned.
Congratulations Ratimov. it's been nuked today (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3455171) but I don't know exactly what the problem is. Maybe bumping the old thread is one of the reasons but it's still possible impersonation is another reason in favor of moderators to nuked to the account.

But as for RajaDen, I don't know why the mod doesn't perform the same action even though I think the post was deleted. I'm sure RajaDen and KingsDen are two different people, so I don't feel any impersonation here although I think the meaning can still be the same (English-Indonesian).



Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: decodx on April 22, 2022, 08:53:37 PM
Finally, is there no kind of sensors to determine names that can be registered or not. And if the name is eventually registered and it's proven to be impersonation of an established member, can the account be banned.
Congratulations Ratimov. it's been nuked today (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3455171) but I don't know exactly what the problem is. Maybe bumping the old thread is one of the reasons but it's still possible impersonation is another reason in favor of moderators to nuked to the account.

I think that bumping the old threads is not the only reason for his nuking, but constant trolling and spamming on the forum, which is against the rules. The moderators obviously went through his entire history of posts.


Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 23, 2022, 02:58:10 AM
Nothing against you OP but the irony is you're feeding one such necro-posters lol I saw them necroposting and I instantly reported the post and it got deleted (while your post is still there)
Ha ha....I forgot that thread you showed a picture of, and that BitcoinGirl.Club posted in, even existed--and it would have remained forgotten had you not shown a picture of it.  The necrobump posts got deleted, so I missed it entirely and I'll have to take a look at what RajaDen is bitching about.  He must be pretty pissed off if he went through the trouble to find that particular thread, because I'm sure he didn't have it locked in his memory.

OP, necrobumping generally isn't a huge problem.  Very old threads start getting bumped when they all have to do with a certain topic or member or exchange, and that's usually because it's a single person who's bumping them.  So just report it when you see, and the mods will take care of locking the thread or whatever it is they do, as Welsh said.



Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on April 23, 2022, 08:52:25 PM
First, I was surprised that Congratulations Ratimov (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3455171) is a user and not a thread. I quickly clicked the link and noticed that the user has zero post and activity, maybe he deleted his posts.
When I checked before making this thread if I remember then they had 6 or 7 posts so obviously mods deleted them and probably they are banned. About the name, I think it's someone who is over enthusiasts over some user and got excited to chose that username.

So just report it when you see, and the mods will take care of locking the thread or whatever it is they do, as Welsh said.
My Intel processor (the huge brain) was late to realize those necrobumps but when I get that correct I reported.


Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: aysg76 on April 24, 2022, 11:56:25 AM
When I checked before making this thread if I remember then they had 6 or 7 posts so obviously mods deleted them and probably they are banned. About the name, I think it's someone who is over enthusiasts over some user and got excited to chose that username.
Yeah when you first mentioned about this user i jumped in to check his post but they were all gone as they have deleted by the moderator on your report and other posts he might have deleted himself because as per his bpip report this is his post stats :

https://i.ibb.co/g7WHLQY/Screenshot-20220424-171454-01.jpg

But as the user has been nuked we didn't need to pay much attention to him now and keep the forum more better place by scrapping out these things.

First, I was surprised that Congratulations Ratimov (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3455171) is a user and not a thread. I quickly clicked the link and noticed that the user has zero post and activity, maybe he deleted his posts.
My first glance was also same but when i learnt he is registered member on the forum then speaking seriously not much of surprises because many newbies will try to gain attention with registering with such names.

Finally, is there no kind of sensors to determine names that can be registered or not. And if the name is eventually registered and it's proven to be impersonation of an established member, can the account be banned.
I mean someone can just create an account  with "KingsDen's alt", if I deny that it's my account, I think the user needs to be banned.
No i don't think so because as far as i remember there was one person who was trying to registered with name of Satoshi but was not able to do so as there must be some keywords restrictions while making an account on the forum so you can see some safety also but our username can be copied but that doesn't imply it's your alt as lot of valid proofs will be required which other person can't have.


Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: KingsDen on April 24, 2022, 05:42:07 PM
I'm sure RajaDen and KingsDen are two different people, so I don't feel any impersonation here although I think the meaning can still be the same (English-Indonesian).
I think I have seen somewhere KingsDen was mentioned alongside RajaDen as alts, though I can't remember who did that. I didn't take it serious because Lovesmayfamilis intervened promptly, before I could see it, the thread added many pages.
I do not understand Indonesia language whether both names mean same thing. But the way the words are positioned is similar, especially the upper case that started "Den".

No i don't think so because as far as i remember there was one person who was trying to registered with name of Satoshi but was not able to do so as there must be some keywords restrictions while making an account on the forum
This is good to know, hope there is a keywords restriction. Normally, someone registering with Satoshi will not get it because satoshi is already a username in the forum.

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Too many people as your impostors. I wish they don't create the accounts for trolling. If they really try to be like you atleast to 50%, this forum would feel the impact of positive change.


Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on April 24, 2022, 05:56:26 PM

I think I have seen somewhere KingsDen was mentioned alongside RajaDen as alts, though I can't remember who did that. I didn't take it serious because Lovesmayfamilis intervened promptly, before I could see it, the thread added many pages.


This is something new ;D. You were connected with George John
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5393837.0

As for nicknames, it was here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364167.msg58109005#msg58109005


Title: Re: Bumping old threads and spamming
Post by: KingsDen on April 24, 2022, 07:12:49 PM
This is something new ;D. You were connected with George John
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5393837.0
This came to me as surprise  ;D
I thought people will not give credence to it, but before I realised, people started manufacturing connections and tried to justify their connections. Maybe before the the 6th month of this year, Lovesmayfamilis and KingsDen would be connected  ;D

As for nicknames, it was here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364167.msg58109005#msg58109005

And here also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379630.msg58889540#msg58889540
And your response got me laughing and I have decided to be careful with all the Kings and Princes of bitcointalk.
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Moreover, KingsDen already has one suspected viola in its history. Probably now everything related to kings and princes will relate to one participant ;D