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Started back in 2017 our service to help people to find Crypto Premium Groups, where one group approx. costs 100-300$ advises, signals, analysis

We gathered all those groups in one place, we bought their subscriptions and invested big money but to find which groups are good and which ones are scammers.
in this time We have found many groups which are really reliable and have some influence on market from whom You can benefit and make right desicion and trades based on their outlook on market and Given Fundamental and Technical analysis on The Signal ( long or Short, or The Coin ,like GMT , APE We had recently)

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Talking to avoid scam telegram groups, but you offered anyone to join your groups since you claimed it's legit group.

Yes, we should avoid all groups including you.

No, You didn't get me right or Probably Dont want to, just because You got scammed because of some group and You are angry on similar groups - We are different , let me tell You more-

We searched for great crypto signal groups, trader/s which to follow and get some advises (Because of work, family (kids stuff You know) (maybe You have time, but not everyone has it, and probably many people are too lazy to spend months of learning Charts and how to use them.
We didn't had time to master trading ourselves).
 We tried 4 groups, with average monthly price at that time - $200 Of course, they promised and showed great stats and profit, but in reality results were only worse, We lost money on monthly fees + issued signals were bad and groups later disappeared - We got scammed 4x and spend ONLY around 800$ on FEES in 4 months for only 4 groups We were not sure if they are good or not

So this was a turning point for us and We thought an idea- On 12.11.2017 ( Yes, we are here almost 5 years, and brining only the good ones for our members and listening to our member suggestions and adding those channels for tryout so our members dont need to risk their money for some group their are interested but not sure about it.

We needed to infiltrate in many groups as possible,( yes, we invested money in many groups not knowing scam or not- SO People Like You or others who dont have time to master trading because lack of time) follow their results, stats, and seperate them, and reveal which are good ones, which are SCAM ones, which trade altcoins or leverage trades, who is Good analyst and Bad analyst. And make their posts/signals/charts , forwarded and shared in ONE place for affordable one FEE.

We started to gather all these groups in One Place, so new or as well professional traders can see that there is no reason to go through every Analyst Group or influencer from social medias and search for profit, blindly subscibing them. You can compare and analyze them here for One affordable Fee.

So you basically wasted 800 USD just to try out scam telegram groups and see that they don't work?
That's genius. ;D
There aren't good or bad paid crypto trading groups on Telegram/Discord.All paid groups are bad by definition,because they are paid and you don't know what you are getting in return for your money(99% of the time you get nothing).
Just look for free crypto trading groups on Telegram and take their signals,analysis and predictions with a grain of salt.

If this was your aim at creating a service, then you should have simply told people to avoid all telegram groups taking money for signals, and in fact all telegram groups taking money for anything crypto related. You do not have to appraise them all and suggest which you think is efficient, the concept of crypto is to verify, and not trust. This includes not trusting your service in picking which scam group is better.

Signal groups offer to make trading easier and tell the members when to act and when not to, functioning same as pump and dump groups where users try to push up the price of a shit coin in order to buy it higher up.

Some topics for avoiding telegram scammers

- Do this if you don't want to be dragged to different telegram ICOs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5127958.msg50451196#msg50451196). Configure your Telegram settings
- Telegram scams by faking, impersonating admins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5037588.msg46153795#msg46153795)
- Some Telegram tips for newcomers in the crypto community (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200303.msg53040758#msg53040758)

Basically, real admins never DM you first. They never DM group members to ask for vulnerable information such as mnemonic seeds or request members to send money to them.

Lol, Something fishy about OP... Ironically sometimes people get scammed from those who act as though they are trying to help them not getting scammed. A deceitful technique by scammers from study, a ploy to gain the trust of those who easily fall prey...do not easily trust especially unsolicited help...

That's what we should be doing. You even said yourself to avoid telegram groups. That also applies to the groups you offer us. No matter how effective and lucrative your group's strengths are, they should all be avoided. No one should entrust our finances to one particular group who often mentions group A weaknesses and overlooks group B.

Wow, so much negativity from You guys?
I have following these group , i have business to lead, i dont have time to learn trading but i am interested to invest in crypto and this group helped me a lot to understand and learn texhnical analysis with the groups they have pushed up and pushed down those who are scams, in order to protect this group because i have used it myself , for example, they have www.tradedevils.com
And they forwarded most important analysis , we just had run up till 42.6k and now down to 38k
Check yourself - free forwarded post ->
TRADEDEVILS ANALYSIS | #crypto_bitcoin
TonyTalon: https://www.tradingview.com/x/VwxyiCGH/ and check out market now, it worked perfectly, and its not a signal buy or sell, its a pure analaysis, You dont need to follow it but it helps to make desicion how to trade, when to exit

Its pure technical analysis no stupid signals, you should check it out whats it is all about, 90% of people loss in trades because of emotions and small brains, same appears on people who write negativity even not checking or trying out

Oh, i see dont take these guys in mind, They all promote some kind or casino bets 😂 it makes sense now why all negativity without even checking , They dont even care that those are pure fundamental and technical analaysis You have gathered in one place from great and known traders on market , thanks Guys for really great work done, if i knew You before… in the begging also tried few groups and scammed and its because they most popular and first ones You find are those scammers, real traders what You have gathered dont ask nothing and are not working on marketing thats why they got You in that trap in the begging also as me, keep going! Thanks for work

Just so you know, it's pretty obvious you are the same person as OP, both of you post in the same uncommon way. Look at the uppercase letters at the start of some words specially on "You"

Somehow I think it's not your money, you don't invest anything like this story. You use the dollars from your VIP group subscriber earnings (or trading signal forwarders) to buy subscriptions to other groups which are then subject to your services and so on.
By the way, joining from 2017 should be enough time to make you a great analyst and have your own trading signals instead of forwarding signals. ::)

Well, if You understand how things work, that in the begging You invest, and of course, i am taking annual subscriptions and to cover my costs i asked small fee for all 50 traders gathered together,
By the way , You all guys advertise casino?

Just avoid it and avoid the suggested other groups that someone says that it's a good group to join.

That's it!

In order for someone to avoid scam telegram group at most times, avoid those that asks for subscriptions, monthly or annual or any way that will give you info to what they distribute.

Most resources are free online and you just have to spend your time looking for those.

I thought this thread is a serious warning not to join signal or scam group but looking at the link that OP shared, I think its different from the message of the title. Its really need to avoid any unfamiliar group, its better to join a group that works with the project you are planning to invest with, just don’t join on any signal group because its too risky and its useless, you will just lose money if you follow their tips.

What's the difference between you and the other platforms? lol

It's hard to trust these days since scammers are everywhere so it's to us if we want to join on your channel but most of the time they are just pretending to be a good people but has a long con plan to scam someone. So, if ever there are newbies find this channel you should do some research or avoid at all cost.

I smell something not good in OP, look at the above pointed out by Potato Chips, OP use other accounts just to convince other people to join the group OP created and claim it as a legitimate one.  Possibly, OP will do this if someone joins OP's group, for sure someone pretending that the group is legitimate but all those accounts are controlled by the OP, it's a trap for those who wanted to join, IMO.

Avoid these social media, they are the house of scammers and including the OP group.

We can find out so many scam telegram groups that resembling to be investment group ftom popular exchanges, airdroop, new projects. and others.
Ut is not a secret anymore.
however, on one hand, we must be careful ob the group, although they prove many things, high profits and promises, but in fact, those are scams.
sometimes, the group may be seen very natural and convinced, but in fact, it is only the way they set traps to deceive us.

but with other tools as you mentioned above, are you sure that those are also trusted and reputable?
We need more struggle to see and struggle

Might I join as well but never do I give them the trust so fast. Now that we know telegram groups are mostly scam groups, we have to be cautious otherwise, these people will just take advantage of us.

Not only newbies will do the search, but it must also be all of us. Many invitations I receive on my telegram talk about the trading signal, trying to help my trades working so well and profit. Well, I simply ignore them as I don't have the interest to learn trading from them, from telegram groups, honestly.

Most of them are scam but there are actually some groups which are somewhat useful or you could really get or snip out some ideas which you could really apply it into your own analysis and this would really be

varying on your own knowledge and skills.You could able to determine which one is good and which one is not specially if you are aware on how things been doing on this market.

Just be aware on scams and fraud groups but eventually you could spot it out if you are really that experienced.

I guess that's the first thing to do, avoid all groups that could only lead us into future losses, and even the one that you are listing OP, if it shows red flag from the start, then it should also be avoided. However, newbies could always be an exception from this since they ought to do what they think are right, and that relying to telegram groups hoping that it could offer them some valuable help. When in fact, it could be the reason that they'll lose everything they have.

That's funny though. Advising to avoid telegram groups and yet they are inviting you to join their group.  :P Most of them have hidden agenda why they are creating those groups. And if we will talk about honest groups these days, I don't think you can find one out of these tons of groups. Maybe, one can join but just gauge if it is indeed helping you or just another clutter in your social media channel. You will know what they will offer once you got in and check those posts from them.

As others have said, rather hilarious for OP to say stop joining telegram groups and then proceed to advertise their own telegram group. For others, just avoid any group in general that tells you it can make you earn or profit in just months. It MIGHT be possible for that to happen, but let's be real, who'd be kind (and dumb) enough to share such an opportunity. Not to mention that the chances of said opportunities are close to null. Might as well gamble if you were going for such odds tbh. Maybe discussion groups or the like would be good to join. Up to you to find a reliable one though.
Ah yes, the usual trope of a new account saying it's a member defending an account that has been inactive for almost a year. Is OP trying to even hide that he made a new account to defend his own account or not lmao.

This is looking like a group that will exit at any little profit taken out from innocent people and block them out. Usually a group comes to criticize on others painting themselves as a saint. Telegram have not helped any body to grow financially except those in the inner arrangement of all the things happening inside there but the public is caught in their web. Pay

This is what I actually meant, taking some ideas from them and do the rest of research and apply or practice it first. We should never trust these people nowadays because when you do they are one step closer to you to get scammed if you allow them. Maybe there are good people out there but they don't know where to find the good spot to do some trading. It's always better if you are knowledgeable about crypto trading and what are the strategy to use if ever there is a conflict in the market such as unstable price or switching to altcoins.

Well, we will only know if those are scam groups once we start participating in their telegram groups. But if we manage to be knowledgeable and smart all the time, as long as there are red flags in it, then its a sign not to indulge ourselves. However, useful tools and channels did exist, but the problem is we find it hard to determine which are useful and which are not.

I remember this also.
I also saw some trading signals before that are copied from multiple legit trading signals. It's like they are a group that offers trading signals to other people but the source is not coming from them.
I am not sure if this is also somehow legit but for me, I am not trusting for this, I rather subscribe to legit one or learn by my own how to trade.

Even if its true that your group is reliable, still, I dont want to engage myself on that because I prefer to stick to what I know based on my own research and understanding.

You advise everyone to avoid scam telegram groups right? So its just right to not listen to anyone including you because you're also promoting your own group.

You all guys Have some kind of Casino bets advertising on Your avatars? Who are You?

, very suspicous, seems You are some kind of internet trolls , but thats okay, seems You are just trying to make bad advertisment for everyone who wants to help people, thats okay, there are always someone who hates someones work.

first of all , You should check out and then talk, its not blind signals, but Gathered all popular telegram Premium groups at one place, and divided by categories, who are in to Fundamental & technincal analysis, who are just issuing signals, but they issue signals on trust and they're stats are really good and then there is channels, we got suggestions from our inner circle members to try out, so our memebrs wont enter and lose fee on group they are not 100% if its good or not,yes some of groups were scams, so we removed or moved them to category called scams, but thats why we are here, to enter them and show people if that channel really gives great insight on market or no, and in almost 5 years of doing it, we have found many useful channels, You will find only in serivice, checked FREE of scams, or people can do it on their own also, but its risking your own money for the same fixed fee We have only for one group or 50+ and its time consumping

Here is example , from latest market, before we had run Up to 42k and down to 38k ->
https://t.me/cryptosignalsoriginal/2014

Oh, and also if You said about better learning Yourself , Yes, We have also 10+ Trading courses from Known Traders, videos, PDF files.

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https://ibb.co/YddxtSD

Most of this will just promote something at the end of the day so I best not to trust anyone especially those people who claim that they will help you to avoid scam and redirect you to a group which you literally don't know. I guess same as you I will just do my own research for this and this one should needed to do by newbies since no one can help them but theirselves most especially if we talk about investment matters.

Just look on sites which does really fit your interest or on what you are looking for but of course you would able to meet or access out these type of sites which is really just been created for the intent on shilling out
their services or coins which i do immediately ignore nor leave once i do find out on whats the group is all about but if you do see some significant usage and benefits for you then this is the time you would
really be keeping it and looking for something wont really be that easy due to lots of fraud groups in the market.

Yep. Trust in our own research/analysis will be safer for us. It also improves our ability to determine which project is good for investment and which is bad for investment. If we rely on a telegram group, we become lazy and don't want to improve our ability in analyzing a crypto project. In addition, this makes us learn to get something our own way and take our own responsibility if fail.

Correct. Everyone must be aware that no single group or channel guarantees profits.
Most of the groups or channels are scam groups, they take advantage of their members.

If we can still profit from free trading signals, then there's no reason that we should still consider paying those are not free because at the end of the day, they don't guarantee profits after all. So if we want to lessen the risk of losing, then always take those that are free. Because as far as i know, what is important in trading is you have your own good analysis and skills that will make you come up with the correct patterns in the market, otherwise you will still fail in trading and become more susceptible to losses.

yeah, but guys You still haven't answered my question, why all of You who troll here, have Casino Bet advertising on Your avatar? Who are You? Like one person or a group of people, who just throw comments so people check out Your avatar and registret in Your casino or just afillate? Casino Betting is much worst then trading, trading You can learn and really make some money if You have strategy and risk management, casino betting is just to lose money :/

How can someone tell if a Telegram group is legitimate? Nowadays, Telegram is like a home for scammers; they form several Telegram groups and disguise themselves to appear legitimate or encouraging, but once they have a victim, they will continue to do their job. Many people have recently complained about Telegram scams as a result of trust, possibly presented to them by a friend, and yet being cheated. So I don't trust any Telegram group that deals with bitcoin transactions since I know there will be scammers.

I think paying for signals is not ideal. If you are interested in easy money or something, go to casinos instead of trading.

Anyway, the "why" they started their group is admirable, like risking hundreds of dollars to check if they are a scam or not is something not innovative when it comes to business side but for the knowledge of that maybe "interesting". I say this because it's a risk. Perhaps you can ask the administrator about it, let them know that you are creating a list, and make sure that they are not scamming you.

How are you going to determine if it's a scam, though? Because it's wrong? Isn't it going to be usual? Because that's what trading is. It's going to be complicated.

Is that going to be helpful for everyone? If you know the scams but still need to pay to know what groups there are. That's just taking advantage of the people who will be scammed, and you are not going to do anything about it unless they pay or something.

I joined before in your group, I can say that they have a lot of good tips from different known traders however you are not sure who to follow and there's no guide which are the good one and mostly you need to make a decision which are you going to follow. So I am not sure if it is worth it to spend so much subscription for this, I only try it once.

With a subscription cost of more than $100, I think that is not a good solution for people.
I suggest you give people free and paid service to gain their attention.
In the free service, you can send daily signal trading for 5 signals and in the paid service, you can send more than 10 signal trading and see how people can benefit from your free services.
If they are satisfied with your free service, they will upgrade to the paid service because they can get more benefits from you plus you will make benefit too from their subscription.
It is hard to convince people after they got a bad experience with a trading signal and maybe that can give you something.
No offence, @OP. That is just a suggestion.

Yeap, they are some internet trolls, they all advertise casino bets on their avatars and are avoiding your question 😅

he is so funny and contradictive with previous statement. alot traders now impersonate open educational and signal group meanwhile they only promote scam coins and maybe not as proper mentor to share knowledge in crypto trading. for some beginner they will attracted and willing paid any cost.

Following telegram signal blindly is always bad but still there are some good influencers which have a deep thinking on crypto and they look for market news and sentiment. Sometime it's help very much. I have save fund many times because of these channel because they warn us on time. My friend told me that he has bought a meme coin with 40k$  by following best telegram channel and after buying the token price pumped but he won't able to withdraw because it was fake coin so it's not good to buy coin which is not listed on binance or top exchange blindly.

we are gratefull there are good influencer that always true condition in market. some influencer was moonboys and always told us to buy when price drop meanwhile it entereing bearish phase. but true influencer will tell us the real market condition ,they willl warn us if bearsh sign appear.i found this kind person on twitter, meanwhile on telegram most of them give false signal.

It's hard to trust again after some instances of being scammed. This is the reason why i don't easily participate in telegram groups as i see majority of them end up as scams. Once they have your money, eventually they will disappear in thin air. So no matter how you say it with conviction, people won't still get the full guarantee that they won't lose their money or worst scammed in the end.

The OP looks like he's trying to take down other groups to get a lot of attention on the group he's marketing LOL.  even now i have not found a single telegram group that is truly honest about trading, on average it just ends up being a scam and many people offer services in the group.  stay away from any kind of telegram group is the wisest thing.

It's true, we can find lots of telegram groups and scam channels. Not only scams from certain projects but also scams on behalf of various well-known platforms. Such as scams about investing on the Binance platform, airdrop scams, and various other types of scams. Because of that, don't easily believe in the existence of these groups or channels. Always crosscheck the group or channel from their official website or from their official telegram. do not be easily tempted also invest with super profits in a super short time.

Lmao, OP, thought he can easily catch us on the catchy topic.
No telegram groups are legit, I would rather say don’t go for paid calls.
Instead of going for paid calls, use your brain and analyse the markets.
If you can’t still figure out where to invest, where to not.
Then go to twitter and follow there some great crypto traders.
At last invest as they tweet. Almost 80% of the tweets has always given the traders,the profits.

guys, You still haven't answered the question, 3x time asking , just curious why all of You have avatar of Casino bets? are You some kind of Internet trolls or what? :)

yes, i know its hard to find them, thats why We exist, so You dont need to waster Your money and time for searching, also understadnable that You haven't found them, because hands get down after getting finding 2-3-4 groups in a row which are in the end scams. But There You have Our service now!!!

 We are checking all the top traders, groups or known on the market/internet , yes some of them are scams, and we removed them or moved them to Lowest category called "scam or pump groups" for members to see which groups are pump and dump and also have find Groups Which are really reliable and good for crypto trading

Just Check out

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Most of the scandals are seen in the telegram group. You do not use any signals or messages given by unnecessary telegram groups. The only verified group is the one where you can travel However, the team of Real Analysis will not give you permission, they will only give you permission for all the water scandals.If you want to learn something, you can follow the guide of YouTube channel or trading signals yourself.

Everything is already provided online, you could seek lots of valuable information and guides if you do make out some effort on finding one.Dont make yourself getting fooled on believing into those bullshit things around
which tending to claim that it does work or they do end up to be profitable on using those particular guides or tips or analysis because if they are really that making money then they wont be sharing it up on public
but we know that it doesnt exist and we do still keep on speculating.All analysis and indicators are just pure speculative and its better to create your own.

I've been on several crypto telegram groups and I still I haven't got scammed by joining. The thing is I don't give money or anything sort of valuable to any of those groups. I never register on those services because on how shady crypto services are in there, It would be smart to avoid all of crypto services you can find in telegram. I like joining groups that members shares idea for free and to have interaction with the community.

How about not trusting you. You are actually making us a fool and encouraging us not to trust telegram groups, signal groups as they found scamming, and yet, you sound like you are proving to yourself and your group that is better than them which in fact, you can be the same as them.

These signal groups and telegrams have been known as a den of scammers. They are not reliable, we'd better make our own analysis and predictions rather than pay for nothing.

What guarantee do you have that these telegram groups are not scams like other telegram groups? I think all telegram groups you listed could be yours and your team is made to take down other groups for your benefit.
It's okay if you warn people about phishing telegram groups, but it's a shame when you deliberately defame others to glorify yourself.

Started 2017 and His account was created at 2021 but only posted this at 2022 April . those points are already Valid why we should avoid joining His groups because it is obviously luring clickers and joiners but there are nothing to learn lol.

And your point is Valid, Avoiding telegram groups but offering His here, maybe He is claiming to be not scam?  ;D ;D

oh , here is the link for the first posts in 2017 :)
https://discordapp.com/channels/379317079720853514/402069245401366538/402069327185969184

ALL last comments, Guys, asking You for the 4th time, why You avoid my question?

Why all of You have Casino Bet avatar on Your accounts? why You are advertising Casino Betting? its much more badly then try to learn trading using educational materials and groups We have for Technical and Fundamental Analaysis? Please let me know why all You peole who Comment here have Casino Betting Advertising which is much worst then trading its just gambling where 95% loss money, especially Your casino bets are not much trusted You know...

https://t.me/CryptoTradingLeaks
You have all leaked signals here for free. No need to pay anything.

That is really nice of you to make a big summary of all the telegram groups. Unfortunately scammers love telegram these days, not sure why but I constantly get strange offers on telegram. Best is to be very critical with all the free information and links to good website being offered. Even in the best telegram groups there are some users who are just trying to get free information about other users and try to take advantage of them. I stopped to listen to trading tips from telegram for some time now. It is a good place to communicate with others and get some ideas from. But I would not trust blindly again some person I don't know, lost too much money like that in the past. At least some basic research on my own before doing a new trade is mandatory. 

I believe no one would take your advice seriously because you're a newbie member talking clearly about promoting your group (which I believe you're the owner or somehow involve in this group) that pretend to be a professional trader but a scammer or maybe a newbie trader that wants to earn money by "giving" signals on Trading.

Trading is a risky way of earning money, and the risk factor skyrocketed when you said about groups giving signals on trading for you to "make" profits.

Advising traders to avoid telegram groups but promoting another channel on another platform is weird. It would be hard for you to make others believe or listen to your advice. Telegram and discord are the common platforms being used by scammers to fool people. We shouldn't get rid of the platform because there are still legit and trusted groups but we have to get rid of fake information and scammers who are just trying to trap their victims. 

I am yet to see a scammer that would be so proud or bold to step up and call himself a scammer in the process of selling his or her scheme. Neither would I say I have known any telegram group that is 100% legit about trading, dropping signals and related shits of that nature. I don't plan on belonging to any either.
I have heard and been witness to a few scams and I tell you, some of them come as legit, delivering on there promises and once they get just the right amount they consider to be appropriate, they disappear into thin air.

That your channel might fulfil some of its promises doesn't make it legit. When it comes to trading, its always best you do it yourself (individually). You should rather teach trading, selling your ideas in your teaching rather than getting money off people to trade for them or sell them signals.

Yes, this is a very true sentence. in this case, he insists on trying to make sure that the group he created is better than the scammers, but there is no guarantee that other people will not be scammed from him.

You can't blame yourself for this buddy. people learn from their experiences, and I think we all have the same experience regarding signal groups on telegram or elsewhere. Besides, such speculation is not necessarily true, and the people who join your group will demand profit without loss. if they get loss then what guarantee do you give them. you can even get lost and do other scam things.

This is also just our speculation based on experience. however, the vote I see from some other people's comments is, we avoid groups like this, and are more likely to build our own way of trading.

The number of scammers using those platforms is so high and the number of groups that are out there which are actually legitimate so low that people have opted out to just forget about any group using those platforms and never use them, now this may seem unfair to the few legitimate groups out there, but when the number of scams is so massive then I think this is a natural reaction by traders, as it simply does not make sense to take a risk and follow their advice when the chances it is a decent one are so low.

I use the second platform between Telegram and Discord but indeed the fraud rate there is very high even almost every day the scammers keep trying to trap but I already know which ones to avoid because for me the characteristics of scammers are well known.

Legitimate and useful trading groups usually do privacy on these groups and never return like groups in general, maybe they are a condition so that no group clones, but I don't think I really trust any group on either platform.

Yes basically scammers will always be everywhere and take advantage of existing platforms,
I think we need to know the characteristics of scammers so that they are not easily trapped,
But regardless, we have to be careful and stay focused

Activities of scammers will always be the same especially on telegram groups so we need to be aware on them, Also mostly the support or admins on legit telegram groups doesn't send a message first to any people and you should start to doubt if they came to you first then ask you to download something nor ask for your privatekey to solve your issues since for this actions for sure this is total scam. To avoid scamming issues make sure to click the real profile of admin before you send a pm or you doubt something about who send you a message.

I hope you don't mind but for now, it is not easy to trust people in the telegram group, we don't know either who is legit or who are scammer as we know that most of these signal groups are scammy. And you can't blame us for why we are not proactive when it comes to this as we can't hide the sentiment that many investors and traders have been scammed in telegram.

And if you think posting this helps you to gain trust, doubted if that come possible. Honestly, it was a nice attempt but people have been educated already.

Yup telegram is known to be the scammer's den and that is what their concern, that is why they come up with this advocacy of exposing telegram scammers. This is a big help for those people who loves to use and depend on telegram for their crypto activities. The reason why scammers love telegram is simply because telegram is now the leading messaging software and most of those users are crypto related.

If you are getting offer from random people on telegram you can do something to stop it by tweaking some settings. I see that you lost huge money, sorry about that but it's good that you realized your mistake and will now try to avoid it.

That is mainly because it works. That is the upsetting part, if you see an "obvious" scam, that means they are doing it because it works, why do we not get "Nigerian prince" mails anymore? Because, it has been overused and not done that much anymore and they can't convince anyone again.

This is why I believe that the best case for people would be to be careful against these people and that is a scary thing to consider when all these people get fooled. I believe that if they are convincing people via telegram so easily that they are still doing it, means that people are too gullible in the crypto world and do not understand the "irreversible" part of it.

Looking at his group, still some people are getting in and I don’t know their reason but for me, It’s a big NO and we should always do our own research before anything else. Signal group is not healthy and not safe, they are just telling you when to sell but never tells you on how you can understand the market. If you want to succeed don’t trust any Signal group.

It would be totally that risky if you are;

1. Noob - No knowledge in the market
2. Doesnt have idea on how indicators work
3. Easily get fooled by some shills
4. Emotionally impulsive

Joining up these groups would give you nothing but there are some places which are good but
not really that suggestible for you to rely on it.

This all about the newbies, they are the victim of these group but eventually when they learned the crypto, they will start to trade on their own instead of following any signal group unfortunately, the cost is high for them especially if they already invested because of the recommendation of a signal group. OP is telling us not trust any signal group yet he introduces a group as well, Nice try but I wont bite on this as well, its too risky.

^ These are usually a mindset of newbies, they think it is easy making money, and being desperate for this, they join a group on social media which only a purpose of scamming people. I have heard so many times that this Telegram social media was full of scammers especially if there is someone asking you related to financial concern. The only way is to have your own research and never rely on other works, if you are in trading you should not lazy in searching for a tool for your own analysis. Easily get fooled if you are weak people, don't do trading anyway if you don't have a knowledge on it.

Instead of aiming to turn finance into crypto, startups are caught in a hive of group fraud in the name of guaranteed profits. This happens often even almost a year since the pandemic many people have plunged into the crypto world and were tricked into consulting me. Unfortunately, my advice can't refund them. All I can say is that learning the basics of crypto is the most important thing. Get to know the world of investment and its risks. And one more thing that makes things worse is the talk from irresponsible influencers.

Giving a tips to avoid a telegram group and scams but you are offering your own telegram too, i guess we will better to avoid you too. Telegram is full of people who would like to scam newbies and people who don't know to stand in their own that's why they are getting scam by these people. Invest in knowledge first before doing asset investments.

You're right and it surprised me that the OP has two personalities at the same time which are a liar and a thief. This reminds me of a quote that says "A thief is only after my belongings and a liar is after my reality"
This means that the OP is hiding the reality of his intention and also after newbies crypto holding.

Contradicting right?

Advising on making people avoid but at the same time recommends people to join up his group? What a kind of confidence that he has? I havent visited out the group but i would say that it isnt really

that necessary to join any groups recommended publicly but if your curiosity does really move then you could tend to check it out but you could able to point out if its
a shitty groups just like the rest or something that you could really look or snip out some good idea.You could really find for yourself in regarding that
manner.

Telegram group via trading is the easiest place of scamming, joining any platform of telegram for trading is a measure of losing any amount of coins you are to invest with. Because telegram of this time is made of scammers, and immediately you invest either you are blocked not have access to the group or formulated story will be render of missing coin

I think the opinion of colleagues above is very true, that following trading through the telegram group network cannot guarantee that it will produce something that can be useful for its followers. because the telegram group network so far cannot guarantee the truth and accuracy of who is behind the leaders and members of the telegram group. everyone can make it easily, only relying on the telephone network, which is not necessarily accurate and can be identified.
so I agree that just make sure that the telegram group network is a scam place, don't even follow and should avoid. remember there are still many networks available and their accuracy has been tested, why try the uncertain.

My advice is not to trust these groups, I have reviewed most of them and they are always based on the pump and dump groups, although sometimes there are bots that are very annoying that tell you to enter certain investment platforms, which they It goes very well there, but what they are looking for is more referrals or that they will really take money from you, that is what I have sometimes been able to intuit, and I did not want to do this type of research, but there were so many requests and the interest of certain people who discovered that, which already seemed annoying to me, now when they write to me on tg and go down that simple path, I ignore them, I advise them not to take their word for it, and not to invest in sites or things like that.

Hahaha, you're Mean Man he is also offering His own Telegram but he wants us to avoid joining another telegram lol.

But I am not a fan  of telegram anymore , and i stopped using this apps anymore because of my Bad experiences in the past.

So I will let those users visiting this thread to decide for their own .

Telegram groups are not trustworthy to be honest, because mostly are obviously want to scam some newbies that want to learn trading or should i say people that wants to make money despite of their status on the space. And its very common until these days..

So be aware and stay away in any telegram groups that offering tools, signals or whatever it is because surely they're frauds. Much better to rely on some channels for example youtube such those who provide courses because surely they're legit.

Thank You guys  for participating, good and bad reviews are always welcome, we are doing our best to find twiiter , telegram channels , tradingview accounts etc. who are really good and realiable to compare Your thoughts on trading and ride the wave in right direction.

but just curious, why Yiu still haven't answered my question,
will ask For 5TH time, why all of You have CASINO BET Advertising on Your avatar? and why You avoid my question but throwing in many other comments?
Let me know, You are some one group of commenters in forums, who just trying to make advertisment for Your casinos?

I'm not too sure about the talegram channel giving trading signals. let alone have to spend money to be able to take the technical they provide, because it is not proven 100%. many traders still have to lose due to fraudulent signals given by irresponsible people. it is better to do your own analysis and practice skills in trading, this will be more satisfying than having to be disappointed with what others have given you.

There's no need to join the group out of curiosity or to find out the truth because everything that's too good to be true is always a scam. Besides, this is a cryptocurrency and only a naive person will trust or rely on a stranger's investment advice or recommendation.
I will invest in BTC for the long term rather than joining a scam group.

If you do really just make yourself to be that to follow one of the golden rules of investing into this market then you would really able to save up yourself on losing money.
Its true that everything that sounds too good to be true are scams because its impossible for someone or anything do offers good if we do know that the market
is really something a hard thing to be deal with.Any promises of  good returns and making out some assurance are things which arent really that supposed to believed on.
Make yourself aware on how reality works and you would able to find out.

For these scams trick spread and are very common to telegram groups, it is also a need for us to educate ourselves not to believe them.
People who use telegram groups as a tool to improve and guide us in performing a trade are most probably scammers. Some people will say they are legit but the trust issue is hard to reset especially if you are also a victim of such broken promises.

if we want to improve and learn more about trading, we can use the internet instead rather than relying on other people as surely they won't tell you the right one. They are just after your money, not for you to teach to become a better trader.

Thanks for the information. What surprised me is how some cryptocurrency investors entrusted their investment on someone they barely know from Adam and like you said "Make yourself aware on how reality works ". This is the major concept and knowledge I applied in the crypto investment. It has helped and also save me from online theft.

Scams are everywhere, it's increasing in numbers by the day and people are falling victims. Internet fraudsters uses telegrams to enforced their fraudulent acts. Newbies and traders should avoid scam telegram groups and find useful tools and channels which will provide useful information about a particular projects. You should be able to build on yourself and know how to perform some essential tasks by the groups. Strong communities in the space are helpful to traders who are looking for good projects and enlighten them on how to invest in them.

Everything that is telegram groups or people (who are also bots) who write to you on tg and tell you that they win, that they are on a platform X to make money trading, you have to stay away from them completely, because they are looking for their own benefit at the expense of us, I think that anyone who makes money, does not give his secret unless he has a very big heart, if there are possibilities, but the truth is that this type of person is very rare, so I more feasible is that someone is looking for their own benefit and most are scams, so you have to avoid them at all costs.

Avoiding telegram group that require certain amount for signal subscription completely is best. There might be good groups with pure intent but in the investment and trading world scammers has out numbered sincere and trusted investment channels. To be on the safer end abstinence is just the best measure

It is your prerogative to join these groups or not. You can always peek whatever they are doing and they may indeed give you good tips. But if they start shilling a particular never-heard coin, better get out because they are not here to help would be traders, but you will be rekt by their choices. You can always give them the benefit of the doubt and see what they are offering in their channel. If it is free, check what's in it, but if it is paid, better think many times before you spend that money.

While each trader can do whatever they want at the same time they need to be more skeptical, the majority of those groups are scams so we need to always be cautious about any information that we read there, because if we are not cautious we may end up following their advice and investing in a coin that is eventually pumped and dumped by them, and once we do recovering any money that was invested in such coin is going to be incredibly difficult, especially now that the market is in a really bad shape.

Lol... In my attempt to understand what OP was on about as I saw a telegram handle in his post too, then I realized that it's a typical case of pot calling kettle black in order to assume a better standing. Even the use of "cartel" in the telegram bot of OP makes me uneasy. Nonetheless, why I think OP is out to do the same thing they're condemning (it's my hunch, anyway), I still believe there are credible telegram groups out there. Not all telegram groups are scams, only that those which are genuine are few.

Now there are really quite a few of them, so I strongly advise you to be careful and check all the information!

That’s usually the aim of the majority of groups like this, they just try to gather as much people as they can and after they have succeeded in gathering them, which is definitely going to be noobs, they will start to promote some strange coins to them and trying to make them invest in all those coins and at the end, these coins never benefit them at all.

Anyone who is considering these groups should have a second thought about it. With that said, if anyone still decides to go ahead and join them, then they should be sure of what they are going into, never to rush and pay money when they are not yet sure.

curious, why You still haven't answered my question,
will ask For 7TH time, why all of You have CASINO BET Advertising on Your avatar? and why You avoid my question but throwing in many other comments?
Let me know, You are some one group of commenters in forums, who just trying to make advertisment for Your casinos?

Btw, our group is growing very fast, You should join and participate in our community

Lolx... Op seems to have contradicted himself. He advised against joining groups for investment advice and information and yet provided a link to a group.  ;D
He didn't remember to exempt himself in his post, he indirectly indicted himself. Meanwhile OP is a newbie, I don't think I will consider to wasting my time and resources in his group. Though some persons can do such.

The remark is very important - now there are just a lot of chats in telegrams, where the information, to put it mildly, is not entirely correct. And they don't check everything...

It is unlikely that anyone will buy a pig in a poke monthly subscription for $115 just to test your signals. As a rule, similar groups that offer paid crypto signals have a free channel with a limited number of signals so that each user can see their accuracy.

There would really be that comparison specially into those people who are really keen on spending something which they could actually get it for free.If you are really that curious or something in your behavior
who do really loves on testing everything and not really that dumb on easily spending money then you would really be having this kind of step to have in mind.
Using your own common sense would be the key and you cant really just pay something which arent really not that worth or something that you could make on your own
without paying something.

although there are telegram groups that provide good information for signaling a coin, it's best to study it yourself. no matter how good the offer is, sometimes people will sue them when they get a loss from the signal. to be honest, there are lots of telegram groups like this one, only, we don't know if it's a scam group or not, and even when it's free, most of them just provide information on pure speculation without data. personally, I really avoid such groups.

If we take a closer look at the telegrams we will see that there are some telegrams and there are many types of groups as well as some to write to you through tags and tell them that they want to go.  I think you should stay away from them altogether on the platform but if you look for benefits here then I think where making money they don't cry secretly though not here they are So what I think is that most people click here so I guess you have to stay away from it anyway

Those free ones are basically just what the owner is thinking and nothing more. If you think that you could make something out of that, then I have a very bad news to you regarding those. I know that you agree with me, but there are some people who think that they are really good.

Reality is that we are talking about a place where some guy sees something and says "hmm I think this will go up" and then writes to the group as a "signal" after he bought some of it and hopes that people would buy after him and the price would go up because of it. You will see that most of those places offer small cap stuff because they are looking for the group to pump it as well.

You could actually determine if you are really that experienced enough but when you are still noob then you would easily fall and believe that they are good but eventually if you are
really that minding that much towards your capital or investment then you would really be keen on taking such action without reconsidering or trying to look up something which would
really be that making your convinced on what you should gonna do.Its not bad to look for some information or something that could really benefit you out in speaking with resources
online which do help on your career but be wary on the things that you are dealing off with.

Alas, there is also a lot of spam and useless material on the net now. I strongly advise you to teach yourself to distinguish this all so that you don’t get a negative result as a result of the work.

Indeed! Avoiding groups is true. But we cannot identify what coin is a scam specially when the project is still ongoing. Scamners are doing their best to deceive the investors but we need to educate ourselves to limit the losses.

I never occupied myself with all sort of crypto telegram signals or group, I knew how some of them made there money from their subscribers instead they are posting unreliable stuffs, however take the bulls by the horn and decided to learn crypto trading devising my own trading strategy, I am presently a self taught trader, though I haven't reach a professional level yet however with time couple with some efforts, I will surely excel in it, fortunately their are plenty stuffs on net that had been very helpful in my trading journey.

Even myself up to these years where i didnt really put myself on joining telegram groups or even discord which could potentially interrupt or would really just boggling you into the actions you would made
whenever you do read up different sentiments and advises or tips. Snip out only the useful tools and ideas whenever you do join one but be sure that you are fully aware on how these things
specially scams and frauds do works or behaves because once you are experienced then spotting it out could be done directly.

I don't give those scammer a danm attention because have falling into the victims before which I lost a wallet worth of $600 i can't believe my eyes i felt weak and sick for some weeks mostly 90% member who dm first are scam don't believe them guys take heed.

It should be understood that often in such channels there is unverified information. I think this kind of information should be checked very well.

There are so many types it's hard to say. The ones that are organized here are the ones that are organized.  They will start doing it, but here they will try to act for money laundering, but the fat ones will never help them.

Alas, now there are more and more groups in telegrams, information from which needs to be checked. So, I advise you to be as careful as possible.

Well, if you are an experienced guy and you think you can do much better than others or on those groups then yes you don't need to join them anymore because what you will be reading on them are still the same as what you think or if they are fake, you can read wrong information's which can only ruin your day but if you are nice guy maybe you can warn the others on that group and report that group itself so that they will be tagged and they cant victim any innocent people anymore.

It's hard to snip out useful information if the site or the groups itself didn't highlight them so you are still going to end up reading the whole sentence/paragraph.

Scammers don't give you hint that you are about to be scammed until they exit. Yes if we are in a telegram group you need to be watching the messages you get from the users and scammers will be the very first to ask to help you through the pm. If you give time to them by replying

Yeah, we can't think straight that way as they will pretend to become a friend and be willing to help for free or for just some amount. Their tactics is somewhat unpredictable, nobody had noticed their evil plan until they will leave you in the air. And to avoid such thing, we possibly not to entertain pm coming from the group or from strangers. Likely we over think but that was the reality, we can't just dare to trust people in telegram for that reason unless we know him/her personally.

Sorry for your loss but it's quite strange how someone can lose $600 to a random person messaging you. Do you trust strangers in real life with your bank account? I don't think anyone does that, so why do we make that mistake in the online world baffles me. Telegram is almost made for scammers since they can delete the chat, change username and even block the victim after scamming. It's best to just block any DMs without prior discussion.

There are still some groups where real traders discuss things and share their opinions but those groups are very limited. I remember creating a group with friends which subtly got hijacked by shillers and had to close the group after a few months. There are some fake channels on telegram that claim to post signals and all of those are fake. They edit the post based on how the market moved to make their signals look legit lmao

The same goes for influencers as well. There used to be a few legit influencers who would post their feelings and expectations from the market but now they are all posting about meme coins for which they are paid by the meme coin creators.

Yes, it is best to trade on your own and that way you will not be afraid of losses as well since self-trading comes with a lot of losses and you get used to of it with time. It's better than following signals and tips as most of them are fake and paid.

Find a strategy that suits your trading style which can be short or long term and then find the right tools, indicators, and bots and start with a small amount. Don't be afraid of the losses because they will help you a lot when you trade bigger amounts controlling your emotions.

One of the reasons why I don't stay in groups like this is because even though I can give good information, there are telegram users who can be humans or bots that send you messages greeting you and offering to put money on a certain platform, and when you tell them that you are not interested in it, the person or bot becomes very intense, and it is really annoying, sometimes they want to inquire about us and it is not good, currently there are all types of contact, be it with people or bots, we don't know if there is a virus involved and they get information.

Looking at your name you shouldn't need promote telegram groups at all  ;D

Only legit groups I find on telegram are project's own channels, of course that depends if project itself is legit.

The most annoying thing is that there are a lot of such groups. There is no need to rely on truthful information now, deception is very common.

Telegram group is the home of the scammers for my own observation. Excuse me for this statement, I really had seen this several times
in the TG just once I found out there is money involve in the conversation using TG, that's the sign and time to say that the person you are chatting with is a scammers. And the thing I did at once is to avoid and ignored them.

Exactly, one of the good thing on telegram group is the project's own channel or their own community group so that we can engage with other people or maybe the devs.
It's hard to find a good telegram channels or groups that could give us a good amount of information and legit ones. I've seen quite a lot of scammers using telegram to promote their scam projects there, and that actually worked, because the more members they have, the more "legit" they seem. So yeah, you need to be aware that telegram is not the safest place but it could also provide you with some legit info regarding the projects and all.

Well, the truth is based on your source and that's the reality that we have to embrace. Despite the disinformation that we've got through the internet, there is still a truthful basis we can find.
And it has to be found and you'll need to assess and verify each information that any source that you have found. Being deceived is a big problem and that's why we need to be informed so we can avoid deception.

The act of relying on someone, a group or a channel is a means and chances to get scammed, it is better not to trust those channels or group for not to be scammed, it is as straight forward as that. I have been in crypto for like four years now and I did not believe in those things again after I joined a telegram group for airdrop, the first airdrop was a scam for me but I was able to avoid it, after that time, I have prefer to do my things myself, be it about trading or cryptocurrencies generally.

Better if we shouldn't rely only on one source but check other sources too so that we are sure with our judgment that the group that we suspected is really a scam or not. They say that not all information that is seen on the internet is legit. That might be true but what you said is also true that there are still truthful basis that we can find.

Those are the only ones that we will be needing. We shouldn't allocate time for those who are fake and only pretending to be legit. Being deceived is not a joke but yes it is a big and serious problem that one must correct because if not then that person are prone to losses. To be equipped with a better knowledge is the only key.

Never been good to rely into something which arent even considered to be good or viable for someone to do because it was never been worth or legit.
All the thing you can do is to make learnings for yourself out of your mistakes and be aware and be mindful on learning which would really be making you sustain
on whatever on things that you've been involved with. Tools are in the market or in the net which you could make use of it for free.
Information are everywhere it is really just depending on how to put effort.

Today, there are plethora of learning resources and communities online that you don’t need to run for education. However, most of these communities are fake and filled with scammers. This is what all newcomers should know and learn from only genuine resources to avoid possible scams.

Unfortunately I have been part of something like that, not from the doing part, I was on the receiving end of something like that. I got fooled by a person with 10k+ users, which turned out to be bots, they looked very real when you look at the names and the images, but when they started to actually participate, you realize it is just bots.

So, telegram is not really the best place to get anything out of, channels, groups, personal messages, all of them could be just there to scam you and you would not know about it. So, it is better to just simply focus on chatting with real people, when you chat with them actually, you realize if they are real or not.

It is very important to always be careful because nowadays scams vary widely,
if you don't want to be at risk, it's better to stay away from groups or channels,
and what's clear is do your research before joining anything

Just dont make yourself to be that greedy and you would solve out those kind of problems on getting attached with scam things or groups do pertain on how greedy a person is.
If you wont really make use of your common sense then most likely you would really be ending up on getting scammed thats why you should really be that sensible in
towards with dealing with things.Dont easily make yourself do fall into those obvious groups which are really just milking out those noobs or simply
trying out to take some advantage on you.

We need to avoid many of this telegram groups that give updates about trading. Trading is not something that we needed to relent on other people for us to trade or get what we want. I have seen many telegram trading that always beg users to subscribe to their vip group so they can have the best trading experience with sure trading calls. Many of this groups are scam and they do not price accurate analysis of the market.

It is a great decision, in addition to the telegram groups, even if they do not have bad intentions, there will always be people who want to take advantage of anyone, sometimes the groups can give some signs, some thoughts and I think that part is not bad, because in some way it could be exchange some ways of seeing the trade and you would be getting feedback, but for now as everything is in the market it is better to keep quiet, there are many scammers and very few people have good intentions, in trading some rookies usually follow advice and sometimes they are the ones first to fall, when I want to have an opinion I simply look for a thread in the forum and get feedback on the things that some traders in the forum think, it's incredible, but WO is a thread that, apart from relaxing and having fun, has golden information.

There can be suspicious accounts available on telegram! Beware of the telegram groups too.