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I'm still in the green...more than double my initial investment. But then I got in nearly 2 years ago.

Just like you, the same as me and the others as well that have held through the bear and bull of 2018 to 2021. I've sold some so that I won't miss that moment of bull. Did you also sell some of that holding of yours during the bull run? Well, if it's about those folks that have got in late, they've probably sold too when they're in profit but for sure, there are those that have waited for a possible higher price and didn't expected that it was the end of the run.

Maybe some are at the moment (actually I am sure many are), but as always it's best to look at where they will be in the long term.  It depends one ones goals, bzt it seems to me that so far the best strategy is to buckle down and forget about crypto in times like this (as in hodl what you got).

It depends, I know someone who just properly entered last year or somehow entered at perfect timing but later on when they are already in profits and decided to take some profits or some others converted to stablecoins are somehow I believe who are not in red and they don't care about these dumps earlier.

I would guess it depends on WHEN they got in.

Late July last year or about 10 months ago BTC was $30k give or take so if you got in because you thought that was the low you are more or less fine.

End of January this year BTC was at $35k so if you thought 2022 was going to be a bull run then you are down a bit. But still down less then had you invested in many things in the stock market.

Between those 2 times you could have lost 1/2 your investment.

But you would be in about the same position if you bought TSLA at it's 52 week high and much better off then if you bought DWAC at it's 52 week high.

-Dave

Somehow I am down almost 60% of my portfolio. Sadly heavily invested at a wrong time. Well im doing dca somehow and still end up being down and hoping that it can be recover in the coming months when the bull run started to show some sign. For now we can really feel how bad is the market is but dont lose hope, most of the coins and tokens are eventually going up when btc started to show some green movement.

Did you indirectly miss the ATH moment? At least the people who entered within 2 years ago had already made a profit. You are quite great and patiently endured until now. However, because there are savings plus 2x profits, you are still in a profit position.

I didn't miss the ATH, in fact I picked Solana, Matic, Theta, Luna, and Band when they were cheap, and got huge profits in all of them. I was up 10X December last year. Unfortunately LUNA was my biggest holding, with 60% allocated to it, and no Bitcoin. So mine was basically an altcoin high-risk portfolio. I'm expecting a bear market now, so I moved 94% of my funds into PAX Gold.

Honestly, I'm just not surprised by anything every year. So, traders are already accustomed to many situations.

I don't know which crypto coin you bought, but my portfolio is still red because I buy when BTC price is around $45k last year, but I still have hope in BTC that's why I keep calm and don't panic to sell. I just hope these crypto market situations will come to an end soon because many people are losing patience because of the market situation.

Buying bitcoin or altcoins in the last 3-4 months is like playing with fire. Everyone who has been with bitcoin from 2017-2018 knows that it will soon explode, dump and break. I was trying to prevent my friends to stop chasing bitcoin, altcoin, or stocks but the only thing they can hear is the illusion of a "cha-ching" sound. Though investing in bitcoin is better than others, people are still suffering 30 to 50 percent in the loss. The tough time I guess. Now, what I can say to them is to hold and to wait. Patience is the key to leading us to success, no matter which fields you are working on

Bitcoin has been shown to be a cycle asset and surviving the different cycles is part of the learning and development journey of the sector and of those who want to be part of it. Bitcoin is the best asset of the last decade, but even the best relationships have ups and downs. I saw a lot of people leave the sector in 2018/2019 and then in 2020/2021 come running back, wanting to re-enter the sector (both with capital and working in the industry).

I think anyone who's in the red right now - and hasn't gone crazy for that position and risked really serious things - should practice patience right now.

Most definitely, most people that invested back about 2 years ago should still be in greens except they invested in projects that are dead but if not,  I believe so. I believe Bitcoin was still trading around $5k+ then so you can Imagine those that invested then and are still HODLing till now, this is why HODL is key for major coins.

if they won't sell now, they won't suffer loss, right? that is, if they bought more than 30k. and if they do believe in this market, they can always accumulate more while we are in the 30k range, don't wait when btc is already in 40k or 50k. and regret that you haven't bought when it went down to 30k and below. some may be in red now considering the current market price, but as i said you won't incur loss if you won't sell. the reason why you bought btc is because you are a strong believer of this market. at some point in the future you will cash out with profits. so yes, better hold if you have no reasons to sell.

Always good to see that United Arab Emirates is taking all the right steps in making the country a cryptocurrency safe heaven and they even conducted many events regarding the cryptocurrency space and as far i know many of the projects shifted to United Arab Emirates in the past couple of years and now their airline started accepting Bitcoin is a really good move.

As long you wont really be selling out those floating losses then it isnt something considered to be a total loss since its not been materialized which people should really be careful on making out decisions because that would really be in result on regretting when you arent really that mindful towards your actions or on how this market behaves.If you are still that in green despite of the correction or plummet of the
market but still you do able to make yourself safe but the duration of holding is way too long or far off which means that you are the ones whom do decide whether its worth the wait or you should
have sell out before when price is playing around 40-50k and buyback when it hits up 25k.

When investors panic to sell cryptocurrency,they totally lose. Because at this time we fully in soaked of bearish it's people that have the heart that will continue the process of holding cryptocurrency but never the less what i actually working with is to ensure that any little coin that's in my possession will be intact till further notice, because this bearish affect the investment seriously.

I think about 99% if not 100% OF the vast majority that got in late last year are definitely in the red now. Though everything I have here is still my profit but every single investment made Mid-december of last year are dipped 80/85%.

True, it's always about having a bad move to get in the worst time such as the all time high and have to selling it at the lowest price due bad calculation and money management that actually you could hold it for long long time without selling it so you won't lose any of your previous value, this is the most common case.

having perfect timing to enter and buy crypto are part of your lucky time or that's a real deep research and calculation over there , we are all experienced that , and so far so good if you learned from your past experience though. sometimes in green and sometimes in red , but for now it's a bit green for sure ;)

If you can handle your investments well despite of the unpredictable market conditions, then there's no reason to stay in red. Although losses are inevitable in crypto, but you can also maximize your profits if you do invest with caution, and of course investing in potential coins like bitcoin.

Some prefer going for long term and some do really prefer on going short term and this is where decisions or price actions would really be varying into each person because not all would really be having that hodler

like kind of mind on where you could really afford nor sustain on waiting up for a very long time just for mere profits.Well, potential is there but cant really be avoided for some times that
our patience is really been testing out.

Market is unpredictable as always, there might be some similarities or patterns compared in the past but it wasnt really that a precise one for you to rely those infos.

This question can be answered with the hodl line (https://hodl.camp/):

https://i.imgur.com/8PT3yQ6.png

If you have held your coins for at least 3 years, 4 months, and 4 days, it doesn't matter when you bought them, you're in the green.

Those who made the purchase late last year are at a loss of course. They must be around 50% below their entry price. But this should not be registered as a loss because this is only paper loss. And the decision will be theirs. If they think this is now the time to let go of their Bitcoin then they are deciding to take the loss permanently. But if they are deciding to hodl and keep their Bitcoin despite the bear market, not only will they not incur permanent loss they will also make some gain later on. Needless to say, the latter is the better choice.

But did you sell some of your Bitcoin last bullrun or you prefer to keep holding?

For investors who bought Bitcoin few years ago, the current price is still good to sell because its more than the price they bought their Bitcoin. I also prefer to be a long time hodler however there are times you'll be tempted to sell especially if the market is in bullrun. But this time I'll do my best to hold because its really profitable to keep your Bitcoin for long period.

Holders are always winners, especially if they have bought bitcoin a few years ago. But taking a little profit or at least taking the initial capital is very important when a bullrun occurs. it will keep your capital safe. But if you choose to withhold all that is your decision. but there must be a target that really must be achieved. don't hold back without a target, you certainly won't hold it for life.

I know some people who just got into crypto last year, and I think they regret some of their decisions, but they would only want to profit in the short term. They want quick and easy gains, and I do not think that has a lot of chances when you are trying to chase profits instead of being consistent.

The best way is to preserve capital and knows that you can win the trading game if you are consistent enough.

Good to hear that, the earlier you have invested in crypto, the longer you will stay green  ;D

Yes, this is periodically repeated in this market. Increasingly, I am convinced that if there is a good return on investment, you need to use it and not expect even more growth in our cryptocurrency. I have a significant part of my cryptocurrency investments in ethereum, and in connection with the renewal of this network, I assumed that there would be a further growth of this coin, and therefore I did not even sell it partially when its price was above $4,000. And it turns out, in vain.
For now, we need to keep our cryptocurrency and not particularly look at their current small price. We do not incur losses until we sell our coins and tokens at these low prices.

If you are aiming for long term mate then what should be the problem here ?  because I see no issue since you have already Held the coins for years now then there is something waiting for you in the next couple of years more.
so let no one hinder you from keeping it more , because halving is near to come and surely you will be thankful for why you keep the coins that long.

Depends on the entry and the planned length of your investment. Even if you have bought high last year you can still get out with profits on the next market switch. I prefer the money i invest to consider them gone or locked, so i don't overthink the IFs that always come.. ;)

It is a bit hard to tell for me because I bought bitcoins over a longer period of time. I know that my last bitcoins I bought I got around 35,000 USD. So these would be in the red, but I also got some coins for 15,000 USD in 2020, and at 30,000 USD in 2021. Because of too many smaller purchases I stopped tracking all different prices. The last time I had an average purchase price for all my coins it was 28,500 USD. Right now I think I am pretty much at my break even point. Bitcoin for me is a long term investment, I am not worrying to much about short term volatility and will definitely not sell right now. It's just a matter of time for the bitcoin price to rebound and rally again.

That's good, you bought some tokens when the price is not that high, I don't have many tokens in my asset now just nft. It is not yet painful for me since I converted my asset when the year started. I am not a long term hodler just a short time hodler . I wonder how many new people in the market gets so down and depressed because of this red days.

This is the wonderful thing about Bitcoin..... You can come in at any time... and be anywhere you like, but if you hoard long enough...and if you are patient... you get rewarded. I made over 800% profit on my first coins and I hoarded for years..... going through all the Spikes & dumps and I was rewarded with a huge profit.

So, spend on bitcoins as much as you can lose at any given moment... do not panic sell.. and you will be fine. Most people who lost money on Bitcoin...was those people who spend money that they had to borrow.... or that they had to convert back to fiat too early.  ;)

I'm sure that will be in 2020 if you got in two years ago. You may be in green now according to you but you're also not at maximum ROI if you factor in that you hedl it while it got to ATH in 2021 and then dumped. You're in green now but in the real sense you're also in red.

For those who're in red now, don't panic. And don't sell, except you need the cash badly. Keep hodling, it will recover. That's my advice. Bitcoin has always recovered.

Correct!

If you buy Bitcoin and still see it as FIAT you are going to be thinking Red and Green
depending on how the markets move. If you think in terms of Bitcoin and Satoshi amounts
in your wallet they dont change by the movements in the markets.

Secondly in times like this its best not to get hung up on the short term movements
in the markets, think medium to long term.

Just imagine that last year many people bought bitcoin for the price of $55000 and there was even a government that bought many bitcoins in the range of $42000 and up, and I wonder: was it a good choice for that government to take money from the people and buy bitcoin for the price of $42000 and up? looking at the current price I realized that it was not a good choice, but as many people have said that the most important thing is to do long term hodl so maybe very soon the price will increase a lot to the point of getting back to $60,000

Bitcoin is all about timing, not just buying and holding. Everything we do in this life should have strategy that is why we need to ask questions from good source before taking a particular decisions. We need to buy at the dip so we can make a profit than buying at the top. Op was able to target the market and bought and still holding still now with profits which is a great investment.

i bought some coin late last year and i am still in the dip although i traded some at a point just to meet up with the volatility but still suffered more dip. I have resolved to patiently holding. When it comes to Bitcoin investment i just apply patience as a key strategy. Last year i still remember buying bitcoin at $55k and $43k with so many positive speculations here and there for bitcoin to hit $100k by the end of the year. Now it has even fallen below my last entry point

Not really in red as i have managed to sell some of my coins before the market starts to become bloody. For now, hodling is still my best choice as there are less activities for now that will create profits. However, those who have bought coins when the prices are still in peaks, surely their investments are in loss right now, but as long as they don't sell with the current price, they will never be totally in loss.

Just to mind off sensibly on how to make profits in short term duration without needing on holding for how many years is that you should really be wise on taking or having selling decisions which you couldnt
really be having that kind of patience test out since not all does have that long temper for them to wait for their investment to grow.As speaking with bear market then it could be compared but on the
sense that this had been the common path where a market does have then its not a surprise nor a shocking scenario for us to mind on but instead it would be wise on making
some buying decision on times like this.

Technically yes, people who bought bitcoin at its ATH will be in loss now but this isn't the end the good days will come probably in a year or two they also can able to double their profits if they aren't scared of HODLing the Bitcoin. Good things will come only after the rough patch so no worries and be calm while HODL.

I sold everything into PAX Gold a few days ago. I've looked into this prior to that, and most good investors outside of crypto ( people moving millions of dollars a year ) rely on "stop losses" targets. That means there hast to be a limit to how much you are willing to lose. For me the limit was somewhere between 2 and 3 times my initial investment in 2020, so when it hit that target, I was out. No regrets now, I can always get back in when the market is much lower, which it looks like it it where things are heading now. If I time the bottom correctly, I can easily make another 3X on my money.

Maybe I am one of those who also bought some altcoins in the middle to end of last year and now all of those coins are on red. But, it is still common red, not as crashed as LUNA. But no problem at all because I only bought a few coins and hold them for the next bull run. Hopefully, I still have the chance to wait for the next bullrun.
Some coins that I bought when it was at high and now red so much are BNB, TKO, and also ADA.
Oh, sadly, I have some Doge  ;D ;D
I think that I must evaluate and rearrange again my crypto investment to focus on BTC only from now to the next bullrun

I don't think I'm the only person here who sees that the board says Bitcoin discussion but disappointed that almost everyone is discussing altcoins portfolio and shitcoins that are supposed to be in altcoin discussion, sigh!
I was have never have the opportunity of holding bitcoin in large quantity but when I do, I wouldn't care about its price, whether I am green or red, the goal is to hold and when the time is reached, I will open the wallet and be proud of myself to be a bitcoin diamond holder. At OP, keep holding, it always bounces back and you know the candles are always too big to crush any weak hands.

If they can hold their coins then without a doubt they can make some money during the next bull run, however taking into account that most people invested in bitcoin at that price thinking on getting some fast profits then it is difficult to believe they are going to be able to hold their coins for so long when that was not their intention, most likely at some point those people will panic and sell their coins, if they have not done so already.

Depends on when we are talking about, there are people who got in at around late October and early November and those people are actually quite difficult to recover positions right now, it is not that easy to get back from there but also if they wait, or buy some from here as well, that means their recovery will happen one way or another.

For example, if you bought at 65k, then if you spend the same amount of money today at 30-31k range, then you can drop the price to 45-47k range as well .This is what we believe in, and DCA was created out of this mindset. I personally believe that many people should do it like that, it is just a better method compared to most others.

Losing is part of investing, but if we can learn to avoid and incur losses, that will be much safer. I can sense that those who bought coins at their peak price are surely in loss right now, but if they did not end up panic selling and chose to hold, then there's no losses anyway. So not everyone are at loss right now, some have learned to get along with the market, and some may developed fear and end up panic selling before all their coins ran out of value.

We all see that the market is down now and all coins are down, from the way I see the current prices of coins, i believe most of the people that got in late last year are in lost but i don't think they should panic, we all know that market is all about up and down so just hold your coin and wait for the bounce back, the set of people that do make money in crypto are the people who can hold. If you are a newbie just hold any coin you are having and don't sell they will definitely bounce back.
Have been holding bitcoin for years now without selling, since the market is down am still accumulating more bitcoin that I will be holding for years.

For sure, it will be really bad that they might have sold already when the price hits mid $30k. And now that the price goes below $30k, maybe they think that they are lucky getting out because at least they have cut their losses.

Nevertheless, as you have experience, it will take years to be able to win big in this game. Yeah, maybe 2 years should be the bare minimum. So this is the right time to invest again and wait till 2024-2025 bull run.

It is true that crypto market is highly volatile and extremely un-predictable but still we can manage to make profit in this market by using Technical Indicators and risk/money management tools like trailing stop loss. Nowadays it is buyers market and giving huge opportunity to long term investors to build their portfolio at very good price  by taking entry on every dip that drops Bitcoin to the extent of 10-15% and wait for return of Bull run to book good profit.

Having a stop loss can prevent ourselves to further losses and thats a wise thing to do. Even I sell at an early stage I dont have regrets because regardless of how much I gain from selling, the point is I profit and thats what matter. Just like what you have said we can still buy back once the market is in bearish. Just like now majority of coins are moving downward hence its an opportunity to fill our bags. Nevertheless, holding is still a profitable way to certainly gain from our investment but this depends on the coins that we're going to hold.

are you talking to me? lol coz i am .

But there is no effect at all because I can manage to keep Holding for another couple of years .

even if there is a need for emergency finances ? i manage to deny the needs instead keeping my coins for that same period.
I may sell when there is a truly badly for need but as long as i can make more action ? then my coins will maintain its position in my wallet.

They do not need to make a lot of profit, they do not need to hold it for a long time. All we needed was people who would take it higher, and people who bought it at a lower price ended up taking it to a higher price and did their work we needed from them. I bought some as well but not a lot. So, now that it is already a bit higher, that means we are going to survive, and that means we can at least say that we went higher, and convince other people to participate now.

The hardest part is to convince people to buy when it's crashing, after it stops crashing and starts to recover, it's easier to find people who wouldn't mind buying more.

Well, for those who have bought their coins at a higher value, they must be losing right now if they decide to sell their coins at a bear market. However, some have managed to buy their coins before bull run, so they were'nt in red at all. As long as they will never sell at loss, and stay hodling them, losses will never be visible even at the times of bear market.

You'll not lose until you sell.
That's the major rule in holding and this applies to bitcoin and other top altcoins. But if you're holding an altcoin and you're in total loss and your investment to that project seems to have no projection anymore, you better not hope that there's still something big to come as you hold it. I'm talking about the coins like Luna and UST. Holding it until now won't help you and do not hope for its comeback. But if it's bitcoin, ethereum, and other top reputable coins, there's hope.

just like you , i entered at the end of the year and haven't had time i didn't even think things would be this bad ,
but never mind i try to forget about crypto assets and try to work in the real world to make a living
I consider crypto a treasure and maybe it will bear sweet fruit in the future

They're in the red only if they sell, otherwise 1 BTC = 1 BTC last year just like today. Bitcoin is also about patience, if people got into bitcoin at $50k-$60k thinking it would moon it's their problem, that's the first mistake. And if they sell now it's the second, a pretty big mistake actually.

Most of the long term holders that entered their investment within the past year are currently on the red right now. However, this does not mean that have already lose income since they are still holding on thier coins. Just as most of the replies here, they will only lose funds if they'll sell their coins during this bullish season.
But still even without selling your coins, we have a " potential loss" as the price of our assets is down compared to how much we have bought it. Anyways, these kind of bearish season is normal to crypto.

I am in the same boat. I made my biggest investment ever in 2020 when things went high. I believed that when in march 2020 the prices dropped because of pandemic, and it reached under 4k, it was a great time to get in because I believed that it would be 10k, I didn't even assumed it would be 60k+.

So at the end of the day, I got in at around 6-7k levels, and right now I am in a big profit situation and I can hold it for a long time. Sure many of us lost money right now from the peaks, but I do not care about that, as long as I am capable of living, which I am having trouble with these days, then I am trying my best to not cash out my crypto at all.

I’m yet to calculate whether I’m doing right or wrong with my investment because I have those multiple entry and exit trades and accumulated the bitcoins over the time. Though it’s not much, but investment is around 4-5k USD, more or less it’s accumulation from my part time job savings, little trades, and now these days getting bucks from signature campaigns. So every time I have invested it’s different price range. Not sure if I’m entirely in green or not but since I’m gonna hold it for long terms I believe it’s less worrying right now.

I think being in Red or Green does not matter much. If you have invested in for long term, then you do not care if the prices are below your buying price. In the long run, bitcoin will be at much higher prices and therefore there is no need to panic for long term investors. Those who bought bitcoin for the short term or were doing trading may either have cash out at profit or they may have hit their stop losses. Only the newbies or people with no plan may have sold their coins in the loss.

Having a potential profit or potential loss (greed or red) does not matter for people who plan to invest not only to bitcoin but to any crypto in a long term plan. However, whether you plan to invest in long term or not, it all depends on your needs and budget. If you are in need of funds right now, whether you are in loss, you will still sell it.
Also, not only newbies or people who has no plan are those who sold their coins. But rather, people who choose to stop loss and trying to re-enter for a much better chance of profit. Short term investors may finds ways to earn on the current bullish market unlike long term investors.

I think not all but those who just entered the market for investing are in the red. On the other hand, those who were trading from last year had made huge money by using the volatility in the crypto market.
Moreover, these dumps are very common and part of a cyclic move in the market, so the market will rise in the near future.

Just as everyone I think it depend on the time they bought it. Everybody cannot be in red at the same time , although there is always a regret in crypto but it depend on when you buy it.

In this website you can clearly see who is positive or negative from when they bought bitcoin and when they sold it:

https://hodl.camp

https://i.imgur.com/SUX81q1.png

You can handle green days, but when red days come, you keep complaining. Well, if you can't handle the situation, sell it. There are red days in bitcoin every year, and if you are new to the cryptocurrency, I'm sure you're scared now, but if you know and trust it well, bitcoin will bring you to the moon. Try to handle or practice your emotions in this kind of situation. Others also said try to handle your investment, like selling it while it is green, then waiting for bear days only if you are not that greedy on green days. 

Even if it is a loss, as long as you don't sell your coins, it is not a loss, because the price will rebound. But if you sell your coins because of a panic, that's a real loss. It cannot be said that everyone loses money, but most people definitely lose money.

we always expect a green market, but the question is, what have we prepared to welcome the green market. from there we can conclude that every season, be it bearish or bullish, we have to take a chance, as now I think is a good time to prepare for the bullish season later, by buying at this time, and when the bullish season arrives, we must also sell it, don't get greedy which ends up regretting it

Most of the Investors who got entry in crypto market in the last quarter of 2021 , made good profit in the beginning but later suffered losses if they had not taken exit from the market. Sock & crypto Markets started their downward journey when FED announced its money tightening policy and it is still going on, though we had witnessed some short lived rallies during the year but market remained in red during the course of current year.

Bull & bear cycles are normal for any market and hopefully current bear run will also end soon.

The current "hodl line" is at 4 years, 11 months, and 8 days.

Basically, if you bought Bitcoin at any time in history, and waited 5 years , then you are in the green.

We'll have to wait and see what happens in a few years.

I am still learning. My first two investments were losses. I always failed to exit at the right time. I was caught in the project and invested a lot of money in the wrong project. It is a pity.

The premise should be the regular mainstream currency. Some altcoins and projects can’t wait for a rebound, and the project party just ran away, so you must be cautious when playing altcoins.