Bitcoin Forum

So i was rummaging some old threads and this one piqued my interest.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1726836.0

Lets see 5 years down the road, has anything changed?

With the price in 2022 VS the price back then I think a lot more people are going to be a lot more hesitant to answer.

Too much risk of bad actors and everything else. Telling people on a public forum you have $800 is a lot less of a risk then telling them you have $30500  $30000 $29250 $29000
Fine, if this keeps up people will tell you  ;)

-Dave

No need to reply here. Just vote and reply voted so the thread does not fall down. Your vote is secret!

I’m actually surprised that the thread ran for 56 pages without being locked, but I guess that the poll was the core interest to keep it open for well over a year.

When the poll started, BTC was around 864$ (opening price on CoinMarketCap on the 23/12/2016), and was at 8337 $ by the end of the poll (16/04/2018), having gone through and ATH close to 20K$ in between.

By that I mean that polls with such an extended period of time distort the results really, especially in an environment where the price for a BTC varied so much as shown above. Technically, it would be better to delimit the timeframe to a couple of weeks at most, and then, of course, people will state whatever they wish …

Not to the Admins …

So the authorities finally breached Bitcointalk huh? Freakin IRS and their taxes mate. Leave me alone smh. /s

Seriously though — though I know BTC's price was cheaper back then, I'm pretty surprised the past results was 50-50. (assuming everyone was honest)

https://i.imgur.com/cR5o9F5.png

The main problem with this kind of pool is that it is not representative.

We will have a few dozens of votes, at most. Which represents nothing about bitcoin talk users. It is just a collection of random user's financial information.

The thing about conducting a survey, and looking at that data is it rarely is carried out correctly. It needs to be a fair test, which a lot ignore. For example, a survey being conducted for a number of years or even months on a volatile currency means you're going to get distorted results. It would be much better to run a monthly poll which is open for 30 days, the problem with that is you're unlikely to get enough people to vote to have any conclusive results, at least any that are worthwhile. I like the rule of at least 1000 people taking part, which mitigates natural variance, and you do get to see some sort of reliable trend. However, that does depend on the total pool available, for example if Bitcoin has 4 billion people using it, collecting information from a larger dataset than 1000, will always be beneficial. As you increase the dataset, as long as it's relatively randomly selected people participating, you should start to see more reliable data.

You'll always have people submitting fake data, and that's the point of larger datasets to try, and also prevent that along with other things. However, running a survey over a few years on a volatile currency like Bitcoin, doesn't make much sense.

Voted. It looks like there will be more No than Yes this time as the price of Bitcoin really pumps in the couple of years and I am sure that people have now lesser BTC than others. If I just saved all the BTC I have before, I have more than 3 BTC now.

You mean to say i would have.

1 Bitcoin can be equal to one home in indonesia so the question do yo own 1 bitcoin the answer is no  :D if i do i would  buy a house first and then hodl 1 bitcoin  ;D

Casted my vote.

Although the votes aren't that much on this edition.

I'd say that everyone should really start to accumulate their own bitcoins while they can still see it at a quite low price from the ATH that it had before.

I know that in some regions, it's not that cheap but we can grind until we're able to own one. Best of luck to everyone of us 'til the future comes to bitcoin holders.

Right. Voted also but do these types of pull actually show a true representation of the reality of the question? and as @mk4 said here,


won't some people just feel this is some way to find and track people's investments in Bitcoin by giving out such info ???

The polling results are masked. No body knows who owns more or less than one.

Most forum members who have been here for 5 or more years most likely have at least 1 BTC, and no one needs to be any special detective to draw such a conclusion. I know of one member (currently inactive) who has tens of thousands of BTCs, I know of some who have a few dozen or a hundred BTCs and have never even tried to hide it (or have done it pretty badly).

In some places 1 bitcoin can buy what you don't expect, and that was when bitcoin was 50k but now that the price is not stable and fluctuating it seems that bitcoin the values now is regardless compare to the last year price and if it continues like this Bitcoin value will not value much.

Yes. you are right, and especially for those once who joined or started with bounty and good paying campaign, i believe that i any body who is here consistently starting from 2012 and 2013 may make more than 1btc and is not some thing you will think otherwise.

The anonymous response is preferable, so no one will be subjected to monitoring and attack on his asset. The main issue is the genuineness of every respondent, no proof of fund. Asides, at this time smart traders are like to have their asset in stable coin than in bitcoin, which might be a worth of certain number of bitcoin.

Voted.

There must have been a lot of changes since that old poll was made. 1BTC was a lot easier to own back then. It was easier to HODL as well. I guess many of those who owned a BTC or two must have already converted to cash during the time when the price shot up to more than $60,000.

Whether they started a business or built a house or bought a car or invested in something else or whatever, we cannot know. But that price must have been grabbed by a lot of BTC owners as an opportunity to somehow change their life.

OP, if you don't let people see pool result without voting some people will pick random option only to see the result. It'll make the pool result even less reliable when we rely the voter being honest.


CloudFlare does, although it's unlikely any human bother looking for such data.

How I wish I’ll be one of those who have owned 1 BTC, especially that I was hacked almost a month ago in which I am planning to invest some of those into Bitcoin. Right now, I’m just putting a little bit of my funds every month to BTC for building long-term wealth through dollar-cost averaging (DCA).

how were you hacked?

Even though I have it in the amount of 1 Bitcoin in its entirety, it feels much better to keep it a secret. It's not that I don't want to vote, because the results don't show who the real owner is. Need to show Bitcoin balance? that would also be very unkind. To be honest, people will be much more secretive about Bitcoin holdings. Showing it off just for compliments?

The 1 Bitcoin was and still is for many a goal, I would hazard a guess that it is mostly
unachievable for the majority at this stage.

In my mind its an even more intriguing question today than 5 years ago but asking the
question doesnt achieve much. Anyone could own 1 by buying it when it was valued at
$50, others could have got it for free for example so there are more questions which are
interesting...

Do you own at least 1 Bitcoin?
How did you acquire it?
What year was that?

...but yea they even a bit more personal

And what does it mean to be anonymous if you have to be open and show the number of holdings and I don't think the Vote vote is completely true or dishonest, and I can also vote Yes with mangaku having 1 bitcoin which is actually just a lie and vice versa.
I'm sure everyone here prefers to keep it a secret and would say being dishonest with holdings because what's the point what else in large amounts will only create fear of being hacked because 1 bitcoin is big enough and anything can happen.

I recently just started in this forum way back in 2017 and from there, all of my BTCs came from the proceeds of dozens of campaign signatures I have participated therein. So far from my BTC wallet address, I have accumulated around ~$30,000 worth of BTCs from participating in five (5) years in this forum. Though the price mostly depends on the value of BTC, roughly I have earned that much.

Unfortunately, majority of that $30,000 came from the value of BTC back in the years 2018-2019 when 1 BTC was equivalent to only around $4,000-$6,000 so the payouts in campaign signatures were relatively high. I also used most of it during that time as it gave me an opportunity to purchase books for my self-served education.

my assets are divided into several altcoins, but even put together, for now they are not worth 1 bitcoin. right now, 1 bitcoin seems like a lot. maybe a few years ago, I might still have 1 bitcoin or maybe more. however, due to some business needs and development, I used it. As of now, I don't have 1 bitcoin in my internet assets, but still trying to collect it.

Lol, that is true. You are smart.


My eyes directly went to the ending part of the post by @BitcoinAccepted and I was like wow, this man is lucky.
But then I read the full post and I was like, okay we both are in the same boat.

I am not that smart. Knew about BTC back in may 2011!mined it back in 2012 and got free btc via bitcoin faucet and tried to buy it but could not as i had a govt bank visa electron. I remember the dwolla days but where i live i could not access it. HDD crashed and i forgot about it. Got in seriously this year!Saved the exe file on disc but did not save the wallet.dat file. At that time the blockchain size was 600mb.
Proof
bitcoin core 0.4.0 (second file)
https://imgur.com/e5sCHTD

It's in hundreds, not dozens (the 5-year-old poll is), but still, it's indeed not representative of the community and might be a very biased result (for example, perhaps those who do have 1 BTC are in the minority, but are more eager to vote in the poll than those who don't). So it's not possible to assess such things when it was an anonymous poll in one thread. As for discussions, I think it's natural that many who do own 1 BTC would not share this information to avoid the risk of being targeted. Such matters are sensitive, and evaluating them properly is done best by professionals (sociologists).

Is it though? I mean, at current value that's what you'd expect to earn from a yearly salary right? Obviously, not on minimum wage, but I believe the average wage is just below that. I don't know exactly in the US, and what the US dollar equivalent is, but I do believe the UK is around 24k, which would be around about the price it's at now.

So theoretically, those that can offer their services for Bitcoin, just as they do with fiat could earn similar amounts. I don't think it's unachievable at the moment. If we see the price increase to upwards of $100k, that's when a lot of people will be priced out, well of owning one BItcoin anyway. Not that it's important, just interested why you'd think something which could be achieved in a year by many, would be unachievable. Even earning half of that, it would take two years. Obviously, the fluctuating costs of Bitcoin might go against you, but I imagine we'll be at a rather low point for a while.

If you knew about bitcoin back in 2011 then there was no need for you to buy BTC at all.
You could have accumulated a lot of coins just by mining BTC from your CPU.
But then again, we never knew BTC we come such a long way. So it's not your fault completely.
It's good that you have joined the bandwagon now and you still have the time to buy BTC.

There is a big difference between the past and the present. During those days people who have owned a bitcoin is higher than the people without a Bitcoin. Went through the thread and I was quite astonished to see the beginning posts in which a person have mentioned to buy bitcoin, if they haven't taking in mind the upcoming year 2017 which is going to be big. Same as that during the month of December 2016 the price was around $800-$900 and in December 2017 it crossed $17500.

Was hoping more would reply. Yours voting is secret so please give feedback!

I think a lot of people sold some of their bitcoins when the price hit the all time high of $60 000+  ::)   The thing is, most people will not vote correctly, because they might be apprehensive that the voting might be compromised... or you get some people that just want to sabotage a voting poll, to be funny or malicious.  ::)

In any way.... I like to hoard ..but I also believe in spending some of the bitcoins that I accumulated over time, because we have to support the merchants that supports Bitcoin payment.  ;)

I have been saving for a long time to buy bitcoin, now I have enough money to buy 1 bitcoin I have bought bitcoin and I am sure I will profit in the next few months or the end of the year.

or a luxury car that has the best type,
because I am with my husband, I will buy a car first and then save bitcoins as savings or my child's inheritance later

Bitcoin is no longer the same position where any one can buy a pizza with 10,000 bitcoins. There is probably no more miserable person in the world. Today, a bitcoin is worth of $30,000. Not everyone can afford it but try to get the chance.

That hope will always be there for every user who certainly has bitcoin. Something that is very likely to happen in the near future, I believe in that. Maybe today we witnessed a very deep decline in the market, some coins also feel the same way. But that's not a problem as long as we invest with long expectations.

any more? Please reply.

but in fact for now, many people like to show off their assets to others like they buy a new car they will post on social media or other because they want to be seen as successful people and like praise from others.

I put up my vote already,  ;D

And I think this is one of the goals for many of us, I mean we wanted to be part of those 1 Bitcoin club. But with the prices still very high at $30k, average joe might not even own it in their life unless they really put a lot of effort on reaching this 'dream'. But I would say that I'm still that far,  :)

For those who are interested in the data:

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/11/18/FFuWj.png

https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html

And see for yourself where you are.

That chart is not accurate as a person could have 10 wallets containing .1 btc each

or group of persons having 1 wallet containing 100 btc.

I wonder why to keep it secret ?
Is it too embarrassing to say whether you hold 1 BTC or not ?
or Is it too embarrassing to tell that you can't afford to hold at least one Bitcoin ?
As a Bitcoin lover and investor you should be open minded to these type of things.
I can proudly say that, I have like around 0.5 BTC in my wallet? And yes I am trying to buy as many Bitcoins as possible in this dip.
And yes I see many people are debating here for 1 BTC club, I am saying let's make Bitcoin Lovers Club. We won't judge whether you hold 1 BTC or 1 Satoshi.

It's not about being embarrassed but wanting to avoid any chance for $5 wrench attack in case your identity leaks out.


That doesn't mean that you should shout around how much bitcoin you have. All my close friends and family know that I am into bitcoin but I don't share with them how much I have exactly, even though I live in the part of the world with very low crime rate but why even take any chance?

Yea anyone could work for Bitcoin instead of FIAT but its another thing holding on
to the earnings, bills have to be paid etc. so after 1 year of earning Bitcoin instead
of FIAT there wouldnt be much left especially in the current economic climate
of rising cost of living.

is it possible to earn £24k per year in Bitcoin along with your regular FIAT salary?

Compare ourselves living in western european countries to weaker economies where
the average wage is far less.

From my own standing there wouldnt be a hope for me to buy 1 bitcoin at current rate
of ~$30k and I havent been
able to save $30k in the last 30 years.

But I agree that in the very near future it will be more unachievable as the price
rises past $100k

Every body wishes to have similar as you taught, 1Bitcoin is not easy to have or gain from investment, you can only succeed having it when you strategies for investment, especially purchasing bitcoin when the price is down low and hold for period of time, right now i will encourage people not to buy altcoins that much because of market structure. From personal opinion, your investment should go more of bitcoin and other valuable coins that you can convert to stable coin when you notice degree of cryptocurrency falling

Although the forum is also anonymous among the members but not all, I also have a few friends and they are also members of this forum. So, in my opinion going public is not advisable, not for the sake of face when someone is holding very little bitcoin but for the privacy of each individual.

I can tell people that I am a crypto investor and what my portfolio consists of but I won't be able to tell people how many assets I hold. That is indeed a delicate question and very difficult to answer.

if you have more than 1BTC does that mean you have to answer NO?

But don't worry, I really don't have 1btc yet. now I just collect it little by little. continue to buy from the discounted price. because bitcoin is my savings. even i want to know how it feels to have 1BTC?

No, I do not own 1 BTC yet. But, when I do, I am going to hold it.
In comparison to five years ago, I believe more people will answer "No" to this question now.

I'm kinda happy with what I got and I am not trying to chase any numbers, Do I doubt I will be hitting the 1 BTC mark. Also, I went for diversification of my coins and I would say that's a much safer and smarter plan than just throwing all your eggs in the same basket.

I've known Bitcoin since the end of 2017 but until now, I've never had 1 Bitcoin lol...

I'm not rich and I don't have a steady income either so that's when I get Bitcoin from the campaigns I participate in (the average is signature campaigns) then I only save about 15% (everything I earn). currently the total bitcoin I hold is around 0.04 BTC ;D

Don't be a person, be yourself. Don't care about other people showing off what they really have and are capable of. Because it's for prestige to increase followers. Usually done by influencers, artists and people who have an image in the public sphere.

We don't need to imitate such things, if it is only for the purpose of getting praise. There is no output whatsoever, because we are not influencers. It's a different story if you have a big influence in the eyes of the public. but still the impression is negative.

I do not own 1 bitcoin, and the sad thing is that 1 bitcoin is not even enough to like retire or be rich or anything in my nation, even though I am from a poor nation. Of course, it is not a big deal in places like the USA or the UK, because it is a small amount there, but even in my nation with under 300 dollars per month minimum wage, we are talking about something that is not that rich with 30k, even though that is 100 months of minimum wage.

I suppose you could use that as capital and get in some debt and then get richer, if you are lucky you would make that into something bigger but that is usually nothing that much of a big deal at all.

Me too, I don't have 1 bitcoin right now because it is too expensive for me, but I do have small portion of it and other coins that I am still hodling this bear market. I am strictly managing my assets since it is not too big so that I can survive my finances this season. If I will be paid for my other jobs, I'll buy small portion of it again.

Diversification to shitcoins isn't safer than investing on Bitcoin only, because shitcoins have higher risk than Bitcoin and wouldn't survive for long time, if survive then the price are become worthless. No to mention almost of shitcoins always follow Bitcoin price, this mean when Bitcoin is dump, the others will dump. Then your diversification are failed, consider to other commodities e.g. gold, real estate, stock, precious metal.

So many things have changed and there are still many who have not been able to have full bitcoin due to many reasons and one of them is being negligent about what prices will be after five years but even if you have some small and still hoarding them it's good move and you must carry on.Those who have are already in high profits within five years time period only.

Yes it's true that we used to be too negligent and judged that 5 years ago the value of bitcoin would never be that high but we see now for those who have bought 5 years ago and have maintained until now maybe they have already benefited from one- third of their funds  and it sure is fun.
If time could turn back, maybe I would have bought bitcoin at least 1bitcoin.

It's a yes for me..i am a believer of Bitcoin. I believe in the capacity of earning with Bitcoin. I believe that the price will increase if not this year, i believe in the next generation. So, i will let my investment with bitcoin and buy again when i have more savings

Not yet but I will get there one day as well!

I totally agree with you, it's a security matter. In any other forum would ask to a question like "who owns $1 mln?" probably no, right? This is the same, but I noticed that many people don't have the same privacy concerns for crypto like the do with dollars etc, frankly I don't understand why. It's something private, BTC, gold, dollars, why should someone give out these infos besides for ego reasons?

the earning capacity of bitcoin is certainly a real thing, there are many people who are rich in bitcoin. If you believe and continue to want to hold on to it is a good choice, the important thing is that you know what you are doing. Buy and continue to increase the bitcoin stock you have until you finally reach your target price.
Even though I'm in 2022, I still don't have 1 BTC, but at least I feel I have more than 1 BTC in previous years.

The way I'm seeing this statement you make here, i know that 1 wallet of bitcoin will contain more than 100 bitcoin and unless you don't want to put all your coins in one bitcoin address because of security purpose of hacking the account, i know that hacking of bitcoin wallet is easier depending for the wallet you are using to bank your Bitcoin, a group of person can have 1 wallet that contains large account but the wallet will be like escrow were everyone will know the in and out of the coin

The more valuable Bitcoin becomes, the more difficult it becomes for many to have a single Bitcoin. Cumulatively, I believe I should be hodling one Bitcoin (at least) since my exposure to the crypto industry. Regrettably, I don't have ATM because of my involvement in trading and of using it in solving basic needs. I believe this is the same situation for most people too who've been here longer than five years. This is going to get worse with years as price and value increase.

Doesn't have that kind of investment in my wallet. Someday i will have my own 1 BITCOIN. Bitcoin price is too expensive for now. As an ordinary worker will not have it unless i learn more about some business thing and trading as too.

One hundred million sats is quite a lot of money these days.

I think a reasonable goal for a lot of people in 2022 is to get to their first million of sats, and go from there.

No, but I have been learning about Bitcoin, and I want to own Bitcoin in the future, but the price of Bitcoin has been soaring in recent years.

Since all my bitcoins where lost at one point I’m currently in the state of starting completely over. Since I feel Bitcoin is still in an early age I don’t feel to bad about it though. To own more than one Bitcoin is still an important goal for me, even if it is impossible to have the amount again that I had before.

when asked do you own 1 car, i always answer no, i own more then one car

even if you own more then one bitcoin, you have to answer no. because you dont own just 1 bitcoin

Same is with me. I kept hold of bitcoin for long, at some point I sold it for an unwanted need. Then onwards I'm trying the best to hold a single bitcoin. I wasn't able to do it. In the past I used to hold what I earn. Now as age passed the expenses have gone high and I was in a situation to cashout my earnings. I have the hope, someday I'll hold 1BTC.

Currently this is my goal but i guess it is too far from reality because i don't earn too much and i don't want to make risk in gambling at the same time is trading because i don't have enough knowledge, but if the market will dump again for sure people will buy all the bitcoin if they can because of the possible profit it can give of it. But soon I will back on this thread if I have one, currently just a satoshi.

I don't really know what's the point of getting the answers of bitcointalk people, I mean, there's no way you could tell if they are telling the truth or not, if they are honest, then what's the merit? People won't usually brag that they have 1 Bitcoin or even more, people that have a lot of Bitcoin are lowkey, they are busy to earn more Bitcoin rather than saying they have 1 Bitcoin.

People only have 2 options for the answers, Yes or No. So, I don't think everyone really has a different answer.
Sure, it is your own right to keep the secret about how many Bitcoin you have. If you don't want to mention it, it is no problem at all. Anyway, OP never said to know how many Bitcoin that every member in this forum has, OP only wants to know how many members having 1 BTC.

I have dropped my vote. Five years past has really impacted in BTC price, I believe most people don't have up to 1 BTC again. Am holding my little Bitcoin till Next five years to come as I will plan on buying more, little by little.

I am happy because there are also the same with me, not owning 1BTC, but hopefully, someday we will have at least 1BTC  ;D
I am not onwing 1BTC right now, but only 0,......BTC. AT least, we are trying to invest in BTC with the amount that we have and also free money that we can afford.
Investing in BTC is actually very promising but sometimes, there are some immediate necessity that lead me to sell some of the BTC. Although we sometimes think to invest with free money, in fact, soemtimes, the reality doesn'tmeet with our plan. No need to worry because we still can invest again as long aswe want to.

yes I have 1 bitcoin, but not in the form of bitcoin but in the form of a house. do not rule out, I will do my best to get more than 1 btc.

I would say that in 2022 more people would not want to disclose this information, compared to, say 2009 or thereabouts, when Bitcoin was more of a novelty instead of real money.

Plus, in 2022 you also have a lot of people that have more than 1 Bitcoin and they stopped coming back to this forum because they're busy living in their private island  ;D

Damn I didn't expect that already 25% of the users so far are owning 1 BTC, somehow I thought the ratio would be a little lower. Good for them, I am not jealous or anything. It was my own mistake that I don't own 1 BTC now anymore. Back in 2016 I managed to get my hands on quite a few BTC over the time, but didn't hold on to them. After stopping to trade in CSGO skins I also sold all my bitcoins. It still hurts to think about it  even if I can't change the past. Most important thing is now to not repeat the same mistake again. My current goal is to reach 1 BTC, before that I would never consider selling any bitcoins. The difference is also that I am now investing alt coins, where in 2016 I only focused on bitcoins. Would be nice to know how many of the people who don't own yet 1 BTC, are owning larger amounts in alt coins.

Then you don't have 1 bitcoin, as simple as that.


Since everyone can vote as they please, I would take results of the poll with the grain of salt. Then again, there's quite a few bitcoiners here so I wouldn't be surprised if many already have at least 1 bitcoin.

In the current situation of Bitcoin, it is not possible to say that it is inexpensive. I believe most of the people are not able to buy it and there are some people who have more Bitcoin. But the reality is that as the price of Bitcoin rises, big investors fills the bag. With the change of time, Bitcoin will only turn into the wealth of the rich.

No, I don't own one whole bitcoin yet. I do own a fraction of one bitcoin, but it's not enough for me to be considered an owner.

Having one bitcoin is very possible because do you can achieve it through investment or long term investment of cryptocurrency because you can purchase what can today and the possible in the US coin happened to propagate in future and you convert it to bitcoin so with your investment you can as well make one Bitcoin in future what we need is a business strategies to activity ambition.

Yes, change will definitely happen and here the change will be that the level of owning 1 bitcoin will decrease day by day, it does not mean that the use of bitcoin will decrease.  Because day by day the price of Bitcoin is increasing even though it is now about 70% down but still about 4x more than the 2018 down state.  So I think the amount of owning 1 Bitcoin will decrease and this is a positive sign for Bitcoin.

It's still easy not to tell what the surveys conclude because most of the forum members  still  isn't casted their votes yet compared to the past where 600+ votes where recorded.

I think we need to bump this thread to have more audience to see this thread. But I expect the same result as more people holding a fraction of bitcoin and the supply is still the same.
https://i.imgur.com/8H2ZVDO.png

The bump thing indeed worked,  I myself is just seeing this thread for the first time and I've casted my vote just now.
I am of the opinion that result might be different compared to that of 2017, in this 2022 edition,  I am predicting that number of those who don't own one full bitcoin will be higher than those who own one full bitcoin.
This is because from 2017 to date,  alot of changed in the price of bitcoin and we have a lot of new members on bitcointalk too, who possibly might not be able to afford one full bitcoin due to its price compared to 2017 when the price was much cheaper.

Let's keep bumping the thread and getting more votes, hopefully we will have a thousand votes soon so as to establish a good result.

I own 1 Bitcoin in 2020 at the price of $20k. Although I opened a topic about it and there I shared my Bitcoin buying story. Buying my bitcoins was a hassle though.  But finally I resorted to bank loan . the full story of my bitcoin buying here - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404490.msg60469129#msg60469129

I don't think whales participate in Bitcointalk forum. I don't know but they have agents. The mass participation is from the lower class and some middle class. And if the lower class has the highest participation then where do you think they will have money to invest in bitcoin. So the NO will always lead in the poll. I even surprised that the poll by then which provided by mk4 is 50-50, that means the people that were having 1btc were more as well, coming to this year which the number suppose increase for the people that own 1bct but the number is drastically going down. The total number of NO has already passed 51% while the yes is 17+

https://i.imgur.com/dW9vfUv.jpeg
What do you think is the issue. Although the year has not ended, more users will notice the thread and vote for the poll. But the NO might win the poll this time because of the drastic bear market which made most users to sell off their BTC.

until now i only have 0.002btc and even then i am already sick of holding it because the need is increasing and i need money just need the right time i will release my btc which i collected from the previous year

Well you should only invest money that you do not need and can afford to loose also. Still it is always a good strategy to work a normal job and keep bitcoin from signature campaigns and bounties as a free gift that you do not sell because your investment for that is basically 0.

It is very difficult to get 1 BTC in 2022, because everyone is competing to get 1 BTC from year to year, if we talk about the past year for example in 2017, it might be very easy for everyone to get 1 BTC, just following a few prize campaigns , maybe many here have experienced it in 2017, because there are many projects that are really good for everyone to get 1 BTC, if you compare this year, is there currently any land or place for us to get at least a few mBTC, apart from working on campaigns signature or trade..

Isn't it normal that we live in a world where people may not be able to earn 20k dollars to invest? I mean, even in the USA the median wage was something like 60k to 80k I believe, that means quarter of a year's salary for many, and there are millions who earn less than that, and this is world's biggest economy as well, so even they can't.

And we are talking about billions upon billions of people, mostly in Asia, who do not earn 20k in a year, and probably earn more like 5-10k max, some who earn less than 5k a year. So, it is normal that people in the world may not have enough to get 1 bitcoin, doesn't sound like the reasonable thing to do at this point at all.

There are infinite ways of getting to own 1 bitcoin.

You're assuming only one of those, which is buying 1 bitcoin with fiat today, in 2022.

In 2009-2010 if you had a PC you could get 50 bitcoins for the cost of the electricity to power your PC for some hours/days.

Around that time also there were bitcoin fountains which gave multiple bitcoins just to play around with it. So you could have gotten it even for free.

But the thing is that the value of Bitcoin will continue to go up in the long term, so maybe we will see a similar question in the future phrased as "Do you own a million sats?", that is 1/100 of a Bitcoin.

Where i can buy a normal crypto?

This question feels so personal. Reminds me of how inherently broke I am.🥲
Soon I say, soon I will own 1btc.

Right now the price of bitcoin has reached more than $23K and in my country that amount of money is very high, the only way for us to get bitcoin is to buy and store it little by little and don't know when it will reach 1 BTC ;D , the current value of bitcoin continues light is almost equivalent to a luxury car that may seem impossible to get with our current mediocre income and the only way is to save bitcoin little by little and consider it as an alternative savings for future.

First poll was surprisingly 50-50 but this one is 25-75. After five years it's expected as Bitcoin price is way higher now.
I hold some BTC but it's under a full one now. That's because I sold most of my coins before latest big crashes. I'll definitely re-buy and make it over full coin again though. I don't imagine a portfolio without Bitcoin. If you ask same question in bull market you will see different results. Most people switch to fiat in bear market for obvious reasons.

Even 5 years ago, a whole bitcoin was available to everyone Two years ago, the middle class could afford it. Now it is a coin for wealthy people waiting for the times when this money will become for millionaires

You are not the only one left out. I also have 0.0012BTC, and the needs for money keeps coming every blessed day.   I just wished I had just 1 Bitcoin, because I know how much such money could do in my life. $23,000 is actually a huge money and it takes those who has more money to hodl such in their respective wallets. Because looking at the statistics, it clearly shows those who own 1 Bitcoin are fewer than those who don't

That is a consequence of an asset that keeps rising in value over the long time.

The price in fiat will continue to increase, making your Bitcoin more valuable and scarcer over time.

More people will realize that they don't need a bank to use money, so they will want to get some Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a game changer.

I do. I'm not afraid to say that I actually own a lot more than that.

Most of my coins were acquired years ago and last time I was accumulating was in 2019. 2020 was for me a time of waiting, where I did not do anything with my coins and 2021 was the year of spending. Since 2022 I'm again in accumulation mode :D


You can earn this much in just 1 week of a forum signature campaign or by translating something in the services section. How can you be sick of holding so very little? Just forget about it for a while. $50 won't change your life in any way, but owning bitcoin, regardless of how much you have, is better than not having any.

Checking on the votes now, it seems majority hasn't own 1 BTC yet, perhaps they are late in the crypto space or it is hard for the masses to really acquire because the price seems to grow that much since like 2017's bull run.

But then again, it's better to have a goal, I mean you can just start small, DCA and accumulate throughout the years that you are in crypto. And you just don't know, slowly your wallet will grow. Thing though is that you should also be prepared mentally about it, because it is not going to be an easy journey.

I do own more than one bitcoin, a large % of early adopters here own more than one bitcoin. It doesn’t take a big imagination to realise some people have a hell of a lot of bitcoin here. It’s just not a good idea to go around broadcasting it.

For the newbies, one bitcoin is still very achievable. Work hard & DCA, you can do it.

Indeed, it is now difficult to get 1 btc, but still, it is still doable. With each new cycle, it will become more difficult and you will remember the current time with nostalgia. On the other hand, bitcoin is now more affordable than last year when it cost ~$69k. This means that not everything is lost yet and there is time to accumulate, if not 1 btc, then at least a part of it. You are currently creating topic "Do you own 1 Bitcoin?", but in the future you will ask "Do you own 0.1 Bitcoin?". It is always easy to evaluate past events, but somehow it is difficult to see opportunities in the present. I remember 2017, but I can't say that it was easy to get bitcoin then, because I had no idea about the methods you are talking about. All this passed me by.

Depends on how you look at it, if you're into investing and buying using your salary, then it's feasible at some point, especially now that it's a lot cheaper than a few months ago. However, if you were to earn 1 Bitcoin from scratch, using microtasking or signature campaigns, it's pretty much impossible. I'm not an early adopter, but knew about Bitcoin since 2013-2014, I was a teenager back then with limited knowledge, money and most importantly, the ability to purchase Bitcoin legally.

When I became active on the forum, somewhere in 2017 if I remember correctly, even the lowest paying signature campaigns were handing out decent amounts, in terms of BTC, thus, providing that you have kept your earnings, you'd be pretty well-off now. Unfortunately for me, I wasn't one of those people and the amount of BTC I actually kept till 2021, was quite small and was sold to invest into DeFi.

^ If you really want to collect 1 BTC that is not possible if you are in the middle class which financial is not your problem.
Yes I have 1 BTC and more than that but IF all coins that I collected were not been sold, I looked at my BTC wallet and check all my transactions there, it seems I have more than 1 BTC before but sad to say, all of them was sold earlier.
For now, it is hard to collect 1 BTC, it becomes more expensive than before.

I live in a 3rd world country so having 1 whole bitcoin is difficult to achieve. You are already considered a millionaire if you convert the value of 1 bitcoin to our fiat. Even if I accumulate it little by little to achieve that amount, I can't avoid spending it when there are emergencies. Though I'm still optimistic that I will have 1 bitcoin someday before it reaches 6-digits price when the altcoins that I am accumulating give me profit more than 5x.

more grateful for what you have, a little determined to set aside the results of your work in your signature / social media it will increase your btc in your wallet

I really do not like to resemble anything short of what some people would call a party pooper, but I am not comfortable with the thread.

It's really bad opsec to the identify yourself as someone who has a certain amount of money.

By doing this you put a target on your back for scammers, fraudsters, regulators, tax officers and other criminal parasites.

I think it goes against the privacy that Bitcoin gives you in the first place.

Myself too from third world country. In the past people were able to make one bitcoin in a day through mining. There were giveaways, if not it is affordable to buy a complete coin. Now this is different, and to the current market price of bitcoin I need atleast five years to have a complete bitcoin in my wallet.

Assuming both of you are from my country which is Philippines, I understand the value or price of bitcoin on our country which reaches more than a million. It will not actually require you to wait for five years to have a bitcoin. All it takes is financial management and investments. It might be a risk but that's one huge way for you to have a bitcoin right now. To be honest, I was able to reach a bitcoin through investment and trading in less than a year and my initial funds was just around 0.008 - 0.01 btc which is approximately 12,000 PHP. I suggest, you took the risk especially if you have other way to support yourself other than signature campaign funding.

Hey, we're at the same country!
Bitcoin is really like a lot when converted here in our country. Even each decimal places is worth a lot to be honest and I would not even mind holding just .01 BTC and what more if we're talking about 1 whole Bitcoin. This is why I usually tell other people especially in 3rd world countries to not worry if they do not hold a whole Bitcoin. :D

I guess you're probably a student still or you don't have any bills to pay but having that amount isn't actually enough to sustain our bills and daily needs. It is hard not to worry if you don't have enough to sustain yourself. If I were you, I would start saving especially if you do not have anything to worry about. It's best to financially stable especially with the current situation with all the prices going up.

This is the first impression I had when I saw this thread despite the topic may challenge or boost the goals of some user toward the accumulation of 1whole Bitcoin because some misfortune we have once read about Bitcoin holder who expose their bag.

I hope people will answer this question wisely.

I would be willing to bet the farm that the numbers and percentages of those who own 1 Bitcoin has dropped due to higher price of entry, resulting in more fractionation ownership, and from those who may have cashed out as well.

PLease keep up the votes

How long have you held 0.002btc.?
I don't think that's your best investment amount, now to get 0.002btc is very easy, you can even get more than the amount of assets you have because the average payout in the Campaign signature for Sr.member rank is $60 or 0.003 if you convert the current BTC price this.
It should be underlined, investment is not how much money you have, but what is used for investment is cold money or can afford to lose. To be honest I don't have a good investment strategy, which I know is to buy cheap and then sell back when the price is high.

Not a whole Bitcoin, but the altcoins I have could "make" it up to 1 Bitcoin if they ever paying in first place.

Currently I'm doing DCA from the freelancer works I do, some of the salary from there I will put it to Bitcoin and I don't really care the price when I invest it on that day, because it's not the case at all. I just want to hodl it as much as I can for better future as the potential of Bitcoin is still unknown and the price could be higher compared to when I first bought the Bitcoin.

Same here on which i dont really have that whole bitcoin but if you do accumulate all of my altcoin holdings and others then it would really be able to sump up in total of the value of a whole bitcoin but i have decided to make out some diversification thats why i ended up on holding lots of coins and some of them are just good for short term trading.In overall i do make out some priorities on holding or accumulating bitcoin as much as i could since we know that nothing beats out the potential of BTC when it comes to longer aspect which there's no doubt on that.Same as yours whenever i do make out some investment then i dont
really mind up on whats the current price of bitcoin on the time i had really put or invest into it and since its been holded for long term then it wouldnt really be that an issue.

Yes, this can be true, because surely people will think how to get them to have only 1 bitcoin, because the people who are in bitcoin are not just big investors. And I'm also sure that many people have a portfolio equal to 1 bitcoin, only they split it into multiple tokens or coins. Yes this is a thing that is often done, that they divide their money into several assets.

because this is only specifically for bitcoin so I don't have it yet. but already have almost 1 bitcoin. I keep collecting bit by bit. and a little more to 1 bitcoin.
now i hope that in the next 5 years then i will have a lot of bitcoins. I hope this vote is still there for the next 5 years.

If I don't invest in other coins, I have at least 0.5 Bitcoin at the moment, because my assets have been divided into several Altcoins for now 2022, I don't have 1 Bitcoin yet.

Of course I'm sure for the next year I will try to have 1 Bitcoin from my trading results in the crypto market.

Sad but true, in past I had not only 1 but more than 1 Bitcoins, but over time especially when I was inexperienced I dumped my Bitcoins to invest in different altcoins (most of them performed terrible) so here I am. But for next bull run I plan to at least have 1 Bitcoin. My target is to buy 1 Bitcoin is not 20000 dollars (september 2022 prices) but I am expecting it to drop around 15-17 thousand dollar range where I will start mass accumulation. I also suggested many friends to buy as much as they can below 20 thousand cause its a perfect discount.

I recently came across an old wallet of mine, it was created on blockchain.info. I was also quite surprised and regretful after checking the transaction history, there were transactions where I sold dozens of bitcoins at that time. Actually had a huge regret in me.

This makes me even more determined to try to own as many bitcoins as I can before it's too late, maybe during this bear season I won't be able to collect enough bitcoins that I have set out for but I definitely won't sell any bitcoins in the future and will wait for the next bear season to complete my goal.

Maybe that's why this time we are getting more of a No than a Yes  ;D
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also, the number of voters is not the same at the moment. I also don't think people will be all honest about it cos that is Security breach #1 to me.

Honestly, the current price of Bitcoin for us is a high price. Even if we don't have 1 BTC, at least we still have some Sats to save. You know the needs of many diverse people and today jobs are getting harder to survive higher having 1 BTC is possible for people who have financial income from all directions. Consciously and unaffected by alcohol, I chose NO. ;D
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Nowadays, owning 1 bitcoin is not easy for a lot of people. At current prices, it's not as easy as those lucky enough to get bitcoins years ago.
But we still have many ways to own 1 bitcoin, the important thing is whether we really want it or not. By that way, deduct part of your monthly salary to buy bitcoin, not much, maybe a few dozen dollars or more than a few hundred dollars. I think if we can maintain it on a regular basis we can still own 1 bitcoin at the end of the day.

The only problem is that very few people have such patience, they think it is too late to buy bitcoin or such accumulation will take time and not bring them profit. From there they started thinking about investing in altcoins and resulting in losses.

Could be difficult for noobs or people from poorer countries to be able to save up to 1BTC

All that matters is you save as much fiat toilet paper as your lifestyle allows you to & buy as much BTC as you can with it. We are going to see BTC touch $1,000,000 in the next two decades. Please try & ensure you are on the rigyt side of the transfer of wealth.

I totally agree with you, maybe they have more important needs than a Bitcoin. Then they can't own bitcoin. But it is possible for beginners who have large funds to own 1 Bitcoin. I used to have 1 more Bitcoin. But there were some mistakes that caused me to lose some. One of the management of trades and assets. But for me, the opportunity of owning 1 Bitcoin is a desire that can be realized. Everything just takes process and effort. Although I think the current market is harder to guess than it was a few years ago.
Such a price is simply fantastic, hopefully it will happen. Because of the decades I experienced and witnessed new, higher prices.

Honestly, it's very difficult this year to get 1 BTC, but even playing trading is not enough for us to get 1 BTC, the market has not improved, investing in new projects, full of risk, that's the obstacle to get 1 BTC this year is really really difficult,  if we flashback in 2017 then it might be very easy to get 1 BTC, just following the bounty campaign we usually get it, especially if we play trading, chances are we can get quite a large profit.

See how it changes, even in bear market you get %25 Yes answer. And the problem is you can't change your vote, I voted for No a month ago but now I'm in BTC again. It touched my buying target so I didn't hesitate to buy back again. I don't think it's a wise move to wait for a couple thousand dollar discount as it's too risky. You might miss the whole bottom and become coinless. Considering we past more than half of previous halving cycle and the next one is on the table, it would be absurd to stay in fiat. Obviously Bitcoin will see new highs in a couple of years. So if you have some money to invest, it's a good time to buy.

According to the life I live, it is impossible for me to have 1 bitcoin. Even though the price of Bitcoin drops, I am getting poorer every day because the currency in the country I live in decreases. Thanks world.

Huge fund for trading become easy to earn 1 bitcoin but depending how keep consistent on profit ways than have loss more although support with bigger capital for trading, I think nowadays difficult earn 1 bitcoin with small capital used for trading but always have progress although slowly to earn 1 bitcoin. Not blame with last several season looks easy how to earn profit until 1 btc in few months process only, different right now when trading many time faced with shit and scam project.
Ever I have 1 bitcoin but bigger mistake by wrong investing on altcoin make gone and right now have try slowly but keep consistent to earn 1 btc without three months later.

You can create an archive on this post, when the time has come you can create a new Thread (if the 2022 edition of the service has been locked) by attaching your consistent efforts from time to time.

Optimism and supported by high effort can make it easier to achieve something that has been planned, five years is the ideal time to collect Bitcoin fractions into 1 Bitcoin. There is nothing difficult to do if you have a strong desire, especially since you are now registered in a spreadsheet for one of the Bitcoin paid campaign, this will make it easier for you to achieve your dream of collecting one Bitcoin in five years.

Actually I hesitate to answer, because I'm embarrassed I don't have one bitcoin yet, and now I'm in installments little by little so that later I can have 1 bitcoin, but I think the topic of conversation that you made for the public, I think it's a good topic,,

Currently (2022 edition) I haven't collected 1 BTC, it's just that I just got .3+ BTC from my efforts to buy bitcoin with a partial Dip and DCA which continues to run every week some time ago, it's still rolling until now.
Currently bitcoin is pretty low at $16,759 we can put more dollars into it but I will be on track on my cash flow not going beyond that, didn't have 1 BTC in this year so next year hopefully I can raise more but definitely not there will be no rush, the most important thing is never to sell bitcoin as long as it is still processing its acquisition.

Opportunities at low prices must be taken advantage of, even a little buying doesn't matter, the important thing is we collect BTC every time.

It seems to me that it really does not matter very much if any of us accumulate bitcoin over some arbitrary point, such as having at least 1 BTC..

yeah, sure some people get these kinds of dumb and arbitrary round numbers in their head, but it does not matter.  Bitcoin has 8 digits.. so there are a lot of fairly arbitrary BTC/satoshi accumulation goals that people can pick, aim for or even try to maintain once getting to that point.

Don't get me wrong.  On a personal level, it is good that we attempt to tailor goals for ourselves, and it is also good that if we do establish goals for ourselves then we figure out ways to work towards establishing them, so we may have some goals that we know are for sure attainable and then longer goals that may or may not be attainable but would be the goals that we work towards after achieving the lower level goals...

When I first got into bitcoin in late 2013, many folks had goals to get up to 100 BTC. but then as the price went up, then the goals changed, and maybe became 50 or 21 or 10 or now maybe 1 BTC or perhaps, there may well be needs to lower the threshold to satoshi measurements as other users had already mentioned.. so maybe start the goal out to get to 1 million satoshis, then 21 million than of course if we get to 100 million satoshis, then we have reached 1 BTC.. which may or may not be reachable for any of us... depending on how much we are able to invest as a lump sum, or on a regular basis or perhaps over several years into the future.


Yes this can be challenging to continue to raise the amount of BTC that you have over the years, and sometimes mistakes are made along the way.  I would speculate that folks who focus on ONLY accumulating bitcoin, until they reach some BTC/wealth accumulation threshold values should be able to constantly increase their BTC over the years, so long as they focus on ONLY buying and keeping their BTC in safe places in order that they do not lose any BTC... so within this example, anyone who  actually ends up selling any BTC would be on a sell and replace kind of practice, and so if we continue to accumulate BTC in this manner, then our BTC stash should ONLY be going up.

One of the difficulties is that people will sometimes start to try to trade their BTC prior to having had accumulated BTC at or above their goal level.. and then if any of us sell our BTC and try to buy back more later, then we run chances that we could well end up with less BTC and unable to buy back as much BTC as we had once had.

Once you reach your BTC accumulation target level, then it would make sense that with the passage of time that your BTC amount would go down.. but if you are still in BTC accumulation mode, then ideally the BTC accumulation amount should not start to go down until after you have reached your target amounts.


Of course, there is going to be country to country variation, and also there are classes of people within countries too.. so some folks are more rich than others.  Accordingly, there are going to be places in which it is easier to accumulate greater levels of wealth, so long as you are able to manage your money, and there are going to be places in which there are challenges to earn very much money.. to be able to buy BTC, likely you mentioned.. that's part of the reason why focusing on 1 BTC or some random number like that might be somewhat arbitrary and abstract because it does not mean anything in respect to your particular circumstances.


Surely, it is not a bad idea to frame these kinds of BTC accumulation abilities ideas in terms of how much money that you are able to make.  Are you ONLY able to make minimum wage?  Are there ways that you are able to earn more than minimum wage?

If you are able to invest 10% of your annual income into BTC, then it may well take you 10 years to have had invested Up-to your annual wage amount into BTC, and of course, if you can invest 20%, then you will be able to achieve investing your annual wage in 5 years, so then the question might become in regards to how long does it take you to be able to get to a certain investment level, and where are you going to put that investment value in terms of hoping that the value will either sustain itself (at worse) or better if the value is able to increase with the passage of time. 

Of course, many of us regular BTC advocates believe that bitcoin is either the best or amongst the best of places to store your value and in order to consider that you would have decently good chances of being able to hold your value or to increase the value contained in that investment with the passage of time, so even if it might well end up taking you 10 years to invest up to 1 years worth of wages, you are also likely to get growth in the value of that investment while it is sitting in BTC... no need to be greedy and to search for ways to enhance your investment and likely is better to preserve the value by building it and making sure that you keep your BTC safe so that you do not lose any of it over the time that you are building it.. whether that is 10 years or 20 years or maybe even longer than that.


I am not opposed to using debt to front load your investment timeline, but you have to be careful NOT to be too greedy in terms of making sure that you are able to service the debt with other sources than the item that you are investing into.  Of course it is better if you are able to assure that your investment into BTC goes up during the period that your loan is outstanding, yet there are no guarantees that BTC prices are going up.. so in that regard, you have to lessen the chances that you will get totally recked rather than merely just making your situation worse off because of your having had gone into debt... I am not opposed to debt as long as you have a variety of means to service the debt besides merely praying that your BTC goes up.. and that would be called leveraged gambling rather than being smart, reasonable and prudent.


I agree.  It does not really matter very much if you earn the money in bitcoin or in fiat, you still have to figure out how much value that you want to keep in each, and so earning in BTC will likely cause you to have to sell way more frequently than other people who are earning in fiat.  If you have bills in fiat, then you likely still have to make sure that you keep some of your balances in fiat so that you can attempt to choose the time that you are selling your BTC rather than holding onto too much BTC and then not being able to cover your expenses.


For someone like you, it might be difficult to get to 1 BTC if you have not been able to save $30k in the past 30 years, yet you can still figure out some kind of a system to be able to put as much as you are reasonably able to put into bitcoin - and if you are able to put 10% of your income into BTC, then after 10 years you would have invested up to 1 years worth of your income into BTC, and if you are able to be more aggressive than that, then you can lessen the timeline to get to the point in which you have put a whole year's income into BTC.


Yep it is not likely to help your BTC investment to be gambling on shitcoins... and in fact if you fuck around in shitcoins, you have decently good chances of making your BTC accumulation level worse rather than better.


You have a good point about the creation and maintenance of a "business strategy" in regards to how you may well approach building your BTC over the years, and you do not need to fuck around in shitcoins or to trade in order to build your "business strategy."

Your "business strategy" in regards to bitcoin should be to just continue to accumulate until you reach or exceed your BTC accumulation target levels.  Once you get to your target levels, then you can adapt your strategies.  Of course, the longer that you are in bitcoin and the more bitcoin that you accumulate, the more options that you likely are going to feel that you have...and hopefully each of us are able to figure out ways to enhance our BTC "business strategies" rather than entering into gambling, trading or screwing around with shitcoins (which tends to be another form of gambling).


That's right.  Even though we should start right away, we should start slowly and in such a way that we know that we have a sustainable and systematic way of investing into bitcoin and building our bitcoin holdings over time because, like you said, the journey into building our bitcoin holdings is not easy in the beginning, and it likely takes a while to get to a point in which we are comfortable.. perhaps 4-10 years or longer.. just to start to build a level of comfort and then perhaps even longer before we might feel comfortable that we can start to draw upon our bitcoin holdings in order to support our lifestyles.

It's kind of exciting to see other people like me! Although not now, we will in the future!
I am now planning to buy a full bitcoin, and it will take some time. Taking advantage of the low price now, I hope that after I buy it, I can hold on to it until the bitcoin rises!

At some point, this may seem like a daunting task, because those of us who buy bitcoin now buy it in very small increments, compared to those who bought it before at significantly lower prices. Reaching the goal of 1 bitcoin is not easy, but I strive for this, I can plan for what period it is possible to do this at the current price, but this will not be correct because the price may change, and most likely this will happen in the near future.

Currently owning 1 bitcoin is very difficult the condition of the market is very bad but if you wait patiently you will get good results. According to the plan you should enter the market and buy and hold when the price falls there are investors, who can suddenly increase the price by investing a lot and suddenly withdraw all the money and make the price collapse. All in all its price can rise or fall at an alarming rate which no one can predict.

I wish I did, but I started buying it just a couple of years ago and now I need thousands of dollars to get it. But I think I'll handle it sooner or later. Hope to get it before it goes to $100K.

In a year full of difficulties in several markets as well as bounty campaigns and signature campaigns, just participating there is not necessarily able to get 1 BTC this year, sometimes we are faced with the necessities of life which make these funds very difficult to collect, because we have to buy our food needs  and the appendage, maybe this year my wish to get 1 BTC has not been realized, at least there are years later that could have come true..

If my wish comes true to get 1 BTC, then the first thing I want to do is teach some of my relatives or friends, and provide some validation for him, in order to motivate him to invest in Bitcoin, that's my only wish if I get 1 BTC in this year  or years to come.

Currently 2022 not good moment for me to earn Bitcoin, seems difficult with my assets floating in several altcoin and my reaching earn still under 0.7 BTC. Left few days later with 2022 and still not have any positive way with my cryptocurrency assets keep going dump and will open another opportunity next year having 1 BTC.

Short and long term trading still can't help me how to earn more than 1 BTC in this year but still enough with trading in cryptocurrency for my daily day needed. I hope can open another chance next year better than 2022  where many bad news and exploit or scam exchange happened anywhere, usually close forward with halving moment in 2024 have potential for Bitcoin bearish and hope have chance with owning more than 1 until 10 Bitcoin for next year.

I own many bitcoins previously yet life difficulties and afterward the impacts of world issues provoked me to sell them to get by and I have a family to take care of.

I regret not having a single bitcoin at this time. I am building up, but I have a long way to go before I reach one bitcoin. I am aware that many of us are buying bitcoins whenever the price falls in an effort to acquire more before the halving year. At that point, maybe I will have one bitcoin.

I see a good point in your investment journey, although now you don't own 1 bitcoin like many others. You have owned it in the past, and it has helped you in life, that is a wonderful thing that you should acknowledge instead of being upset. Since we invest in bitcoin to make life better and bitcoin has done so well for you, you should cheer up. Currently, you do not have bitcoins does not mean that you will not have them later, as long as you continually work hard to accumulate, owning 1 bitcoin will never be difficult.

It's not a difficult way to get bitcoin this year especially when the price is cheap but you can start small but you keep that shitcoin floating too much and for me it's big with an estimate of under 0.7 BTC so why don't you change the pattern on what is real about bitcoin?

I don't think it's necessary to reach 1 BTC in every year but you should earn bitcoins instead of altcoins, I also started small so I can put above $50+ per week plus signature campaign fees also added in bitcoins never tried to sell As much as I can, it will be my goal to continue to earn bitcoins by any means possible in order to reach 1 BTC in the future.

Keep it up if you can make trades for your daily needs because it becomes your main need, but if you have found a good opportunity then you should invest in bitcoin not shitcoin anymore, I hope in the next year you can start even though it's a bit difficult for you.

I believe in Bitcoin the most because Bitcoin will be in a better position one day.  But now I see that the price of Bitcoin is going down a lot so I thought I will put some of my money in Bitcoin.  I remember how many days I could keep it.  So my luck may open in a very short time.  I need to keep bitcoins for that.

You should not wait until you have accumulated enough 1 bitcoin to start teaching your loved ones because you also don't know when you will reach that goal. If in the worst case, you never get 1 bitcoin, it means your loved ones will never know about bitcoin. That would be an even bigger mistake.
Teach and impart knowledge to them now, so they don't miss the opportunity, bitcoin is very cheap to own. You are not eligible to get 1 bitcoin, but maybe your loved one can, so don't hesitate and get started right away.

Considering the market changes in recent time most answer we will be "NO". Country like mine Bitcoin worth a fortune, owning one simply means you are a millionaire, my answer is no

In 2017 poll, it's crazy to think that the vote results are close to each other. I say crazy because that was the first time BTC peaked. So, I am expecting people already sold their BTC and then many people can't afford to own 1 BTC yet that time. Not to mention the popularity of BTC that time isn't that high compared to today.

Fast forward, 5 years later, of course everything has changed drastically. People in crypto figured out the true potential of BTC so they can now value their BTC more. They HODL tightly and they even stack more BTC by the time it dips out. I only wonder why the poll results this time has a bigger gap. Many have answered no more than yes.

Are your funds over?
If you still have funds, 2022 is a good time to add more BTC to your wallets. The price of BTC is rather cheap, it dropped more than -75%.
We don't know what's to happen with crypto market next year. Although many people assume BTC to drop more because of the recession, no one guarantees it. Who knows if this month is the last chance to buy BTC below $17k?  ;)

Trading during the bearish market won't work very well. I even stop trading for a few months, I assume it didn't get quite good profits. If you want to earn 1 BTC, you need to have extra funds, don't rely on the trading profits!

DWYOR

I hope I'll have it in 2 years or so. I wish I would start buying it earlier, but I think a lot of us do.

It's never late to start saving money really.

10 years will pass without you even noticing, so might as well try and save something along the way.

You will probably be much better in the future if you save now.

I'm bringing up some of my personal stuff though it shouldn't be.

When I was in Job life I mean earlier in my life when I was 27 years old, in 2018 when Bitcoin was between $3350-3700 I saved like 3.7 BTC in my Coinbase wallet.

2020 July I got married, Then my savings reduced to $10000.  Then I convert all my dollars to Bitcoin and maybe get a few digits after zero.

Today I am the father of a daughter, as a result of which my reserves have dwindled to just three thousand dollars.  I don't know what to do.  I invested all my dollars in PYR coins.  As a result, I currently have no bitcoins in reserve.

Do you know that having a Bitcoin start from now that the price is not stable and also low so if you are coming date or accumulate your money for investing in Bitcoin you will surely or definitely make a profit during the time the price of Bitcoin because I know definitely that bitcoin price must increase in 2023 and the 2024 so whoever that I have the mindset to buy iron Man and the self 4 more year to come the person will definitely benefit on it

Fuck shitcoins.  Do not waste your time with that crap.

If you happen to have $3k, then maybe you have a cashflow too? 

You could buy $1k in bitcoin right away.  Put another $1k into buying on dip and the final $1k into a DCA schedule over the next several months and add your cashflow into that too.

Of course, there are no guarantees, but maybe if you are persistent, you might be able in get up to 1 BTC in the next 10 to 20 years, and if you do not get up to 1 BTC, then get up to whatever you can, and get the fuck out of the various shitcoins, whether it is PYR (Whatever the fuck that is?) or any other shitcoin. 

Focus.


Focus ur lil selfie.

Maybe if you get up to 0.3 BTC in 10 or 20 years or maybe if you get up to 0.5 BTC or maybe some other amount that is not quite a whole bitcoin that will be enough in order to provide you with more options than fucking around with shitcoins is likely to bring you (or anyone else)?  No guarantees, of course. 

But you never know, if you focus on bitcoin accumulation, instead of getting distracted into snake oil, smoke and mirror pump and dump nonsense, then maybe you'll have a chance to make it.. otherwise most likely You NGMI.

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Hey Dave,

It would be funny and sad at the same time to see your post updated with the prices going down and stopping at 16700 (for now).
It reminds the way we went last year...

The low, so far, for this correction has been $15,479 (on November 21).

Great advice here. If only people were doing that and cleared their minds of all that buzz, all that noise that media generate.

For people who have their jobs, families, hobbies and are trying to invest a bit: You guys don't have enough free time to watch your portfolios! You should not try to buy numerous coins because you will not have enough time to watch their progress (or regress as most of them turn into nothing over time). You won't have time to wait for that right moment to sell at the pump.

You should buy the most stable thing in the ecosystem which is bitcoin and hold until you feel good about realizing your goals.

Yep.. there are many folks who are new to bitcoin, and they believe that they are learning "quality" information when they start fucking around with various shitcoins and also diluting the possibilities of their BTC investment in terms of time, energies and money invested.

Bitcoin is too boring for some of them.. grandpa coin, remember?

In the meantime, they get distracted into mostly valueless nonsense, and they don't even know what "grandpa coin" is. .They think that they know, but they have not spent enough time figuring out what they think that they know but that they do not know.

Frequently, I suggest for newbies to bitcoin to start with bitcoin first, and spend time accumulating it and perhaps learning about it. and if there has been a couple of years of BTC investment and accumulation then maybe there might be some need (perhaps?) to look into other matters.. and surely I understand the allure, too.. because what seems to happen is that various shitcoins, defi, NFTs, ICOs and other non-bitcoin crypto bullshit lure people away into thinking that their time, energies and money will be better spent on the 20,000 plus various non-bitcoin projects that again distract away from where the value should be focused (on bitcoin)..

....so those shit projects are lures, and if you dabble a little bit, you may end up getting sucked in.. like a slippery slope in which a little bit of looking into it likely ends up polluting your thinking into gobbledy-gook that lacks foundation and sufficient attachment to various realities - including that bitcoin builds on strong foundation, and surely there is a lot to learn, even with the lightning network, it should be possible to stay busy in bitcoin for 2-5 years at least before even feeling like you have a decent enough grasp on it that you might consider possible value in looking into shitcoins, too.

Seems bad decision with converted all your Bitcoin assets to be PYR coins, I dislike with any altcoin project building from gaming network, finally price drop drastically than our expected. Have you remember with several gaming altcoin network price drop from AXS, SLP and many other of gaming coin platform seems with hype only.

You loss opportunity with Bitcoin holding, maybe if you still hold have chance when all time high price during 2021, I don't think with bad ideas without all in your investing in Bitcoin only, purchase half from $10,000 your salary with Bitcoin and half other used for investing in altcoin. Still have opportunity with profit earning when altcoin holding price going dump and Bitcoin can give your opportunity with profit.

It seems that what you are experiencing is the same as mine, the need must defeat the plan to continue to be able to hold bitcoin longer, which in the end must be released. the covid pandemic has clearly dispersed everything, plus at this time the economic crisis cannot be avoided, just to be able to survive in the current situation is something that is truly a gift. but it's true that those who have been able to get through the situation to this point, of course, can buy it at a low price, very lucky.
of course you have to give thanks, start making plans to buy bitcoin gradually, obviously this is the best opportunity to be able to invest in bitcoin, while waiting to enter the halving period to come, I myself still can't get out of this crisis. just hoping that there will be a surprise from Bounty where the events in 2017 can be repeated, even though it's difficult for that.

 I just wonder how most of us really get fucked with shitcoins before we learn and deviate. Although some never get into the fucked up altcoin shit, really most of us got a taste of it (like myself).

Another thing that gets people tangled up with those fucked shitcoins is their price compared to the price of Bitcoin, which convinces them to think of accumulating 1 bitcoin as a nearly impossible venture (but very much possible); they just fail to realize that it does not possibly mean that one must accumulate 1 or 0.5 bitcoin at a stretch, but just like you said, despite how long it may take, 10 to 20 years of gradually accumulating Bitcoin is better off than getting deceived with mirror pump and dump nonsense🤣😅.

You said it all already: "if newbies can start investing first in Bitcoin and avoid shittie." It will be better for them. I don't see it as something they can't do, but they get so quickly convinced of how they can easily acquire a significant sum of some shitcoins from ICOs and IDOs, but they fear they can't get enough of Bitcoin, and they equally feel the profit for those shitcoins will be boom 🤯💥, not knowing that altcoin investment is just as risky as gambling.

My regret was that I also got fucked with some altcoins when I started doing crypto; back then, I felt Bitcoin was too expensive to buy while I could just buy thousands of some shitcoins. Perhaps it was because I only got introduced to a shitcoin whose name no longer exists.
Recently, I also took the risk of diving into a shitcoin, but I couldn't get out because right now, the token is dumped without trading volume. 

Yeah, some people really only see the name and the price, and don't really care too much about anything.

That's why there's a huge market for basically worthless coins created from thin air, and after a while those coins just stop existing because, well, they never existed really. It's just a mechanism to transfer real money into the hands of the creator of those coins.

Greed will continue to exist, and people will continue to try to earn more money in the short term by buying these altcoins, but in the end they usually lose everything.

Bitcoin is really different, but many people don't see it. They just see a price attached to it and that's it.

People can do whatever they want, and they will continue losing their money in altcoins.