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 I’ve actually been using telegram for very very long but i dont really see any good live betting groups. Like people share their prediction and thoughts around kind… normally i see a lot of fixed scams, posting ridiculous odds and winnings, really sick and tired of these scammers. But i dont really know if it’s easy or good to make one telegram group.

I kinda like community to share and chat around you know, everyone discuss about their games and what to bet and all. So eitherway, i’ve created a telegram group for sports and casino betting discussion. Give me some advice and opinion to better improve my group… it will be good for you all to be part of it too.  ;D

https://t.me/sportsliveforum

No one would really share their bets whilst some people would somehow rely on the channel's bets. You've already said it, there are tons of fixed scams that's why these kind of idea already had been avoided. You cannot just let the online people of this forum be part of something we already know that won't went well in the future. You can still take this Gambling and Gambling Discussion as the community where you can share and discuss the games and bets. Yes, a telegram group would be a better and a much convenient medium. But it can be a road to exist a way bigger problem.

It's not easy.

Let's say that you're becoming successful with that group and you're building up a community. The likely of being bombarded by scammers on your group is possible.

But you can maintain them through you alone or someone that will work to filter your members. If there's none that you can see, I have the same thing to say about in the gambling discussion, there are too many pickers and predictors there that you can find.

As the group is growing, expect that there will be trolls or scammers that will try to explore the channel. It is true, better look for prediction threads in this forum in the gambling discussion boards. There are so many good insights already that you can get from the members here. For me, that's more than enough. But maybe, the OP has other goals for his group later on.

^ You have already given an insight, Telegram group has full of scams and no one will probably have the interest to gamble or join there since they know this social media platform is very well known for all kinds of scams. If you have financial capital, I suggest you open your own website if you really run an abetting site that does not rely on any of their party platforms. Another factor is the reputation that you must to build so that they will trust your gambling casino. However, good luck with your plan.

I don't think a telegram group is a necessity when it comes to trying to talk about who's going to win or lose in a match really. Just go to any official discord of each sport (if there is one, most eSports have them so I'm basing it on that), then find people you can discuss with in there about the ongoing tournaments and who they would think would win. There may be a lot of opinions, but that also helps filter out some biased views imo. No need to make it a specific "betting group", since honestly, groups like that just reek of them doing the matchmaking themselves.

That's true they will imitate your group they will imitate you and they will use your name to scam people, if you want to form a group, telegram is not the best place to create one you can create channels or you can create an official thread here it's transparent and you'll know right away if a member is trusted or not and you can have a healthy discussion that will add to user's experience.

Scams like this occurs even in binance telegram channel which someone will impersonate the supposedly authority in the channel and scam users.

Discord is a lot organized than  telegram.  But I would rather see threads like this in the forum for its easy to find who is who and no one can suddenly just delete their account. Whats in it for OP by the way? asking fees for the betting prediction?

Now a days to be honest, no one is really interested in joining telegram channels for placing bets.
Cmon who want to risk their money on other people’s opinion.
I don’t know about the others but yes I only trust myself with my money only.
Moreover I don’t get the idea, why people will join your telegram group if there are manu other popular telegram channels/ groups are already present.
People now days were only going to search for fixed games in most of the telegram groups, and these things scammers take advantage and scam the innocent people.
Willing to hear other people’s opinion on this.

Why on telegram ? the place is full of scamming in which many of us prevent from using that app.

and also you being a Newbie and putting your telegram here? it is more likely that none will contact you because there are possibilities that when you gather more members then like what others did? selling the group to 3rd party user for spamming .

Sorry but I don't think this is applicable for gamblers here in Bitcointalk when there are so many site that trusted and worth depositing .

Read again his statement for a few minutes and visit the group to fully grasp what's really the intention of the OP before making such comment. The telegram link that he provides is a telegram group dedicated for gamblers that do live betting. Technically it's a room for sharing there prediction and help each other to analyze prediction and win together. I knew that you think that he is planning to create a live betting platform on telegram if you just read the title and quick scan the post.

OP, The idea is good and telegram is best for that discussion purposes. The only thing I can comment is to limit the person that can give prediction to control shit prediction and to increase the chance of win rate. Let the veterans only allowed to give prediction and normal user is just allowed to comment about it until he has a good portfolio.

May be add some security bot to avoid spammers and let them join their bots that will constantly spam your thread, I think that was a good idea to have a live betting group where people discuss bets and teams but if those group go big and they start to discuss different matches it might be confusing for some of us.

Mainly actually want to see people’s POV on certain bets you know. Act as a reference book.

It is easy to create a telegram group because all you have to do is create it and invite your friends to join and ask them to invite your other friends. If you want advice, maybe you can create a paid service for your members to get predictions that have a high probability of winning. If so, you should really give the best for your paying members and never cheat on them.

I think the gambling discussion is enough to discuss betting teams or any related to gambling since live group would just be a chaos, talking about diffferent things at a time and couldn't get track what you are talking about as some gamblers prefer football, some Esports and some are in other sports just imagine they are talking at the same time with diffferent people.

You are not gaining people's confidence, when you use a username that says .. "I am Very Evil"  ::)  ..but all jokes aside, most people associate Telegram with scammers these days.

Just look at this article ==> https://fortune.com/2021/07/07/telegram-crypto-fraud-tips-wallets/  (You have to be subscribed to read it)

This is a more accessible article ==> https://www.businessinsider.in/cryptocurrency/news/telegram-is-the-crypto-hackers-newest-playground-and-they-have-automated-the-process/articleshow/89642117.cms

So Telegram has gained a very poor reputation as being a scammers playground, so it might be better to use some other more reputable social media platform for this.  ;)

and not only security , But also add more admins that will focus in the conversation and in the group activities because for sure there will be more and more attempt of taking advantage of those.

I may not interested in this kind of group but i support His plans and his advocacy for gamblers here in forum.

I am not familiar with the Telegram but can you create a sub channel for certain discussion or live chats like group for casinos, group for sports betting, group for other things. And you need admin that will admin the group since there will be users that will join and shill some projects or spreads some kind of links too and it would be disaster if you can't handle it well. I think Discord is good for that but most users uses Telegram.

ya.ya.yo!

Live Betting Groups ? wow this is something new for me   ;D

If this will operate legitimately ? then I will be considering to join and be part of this mate.

if you will be having a More credible gamblers that will put good sights about the game to come? then  yes I'll be there to be your member .

Thanks guys. It really gives me some insight about what to look for and expect. I’m not making a gambling website or what, it’s just a kinda forum. Those who bet live normally knows how the thoughts can change with just a comment. So i want to have a group where people can share their views or whatsoever on games.

eg: chelsea vs man u. The on going match is 1-0 @73 minutes.. and man u isnt attacking or whatsoever. But i feel like buying 1-1. Then comes someone who analyses the match and give his opinion that maybe 1-1 isnt possible… so you know, i kinda will be cautious when bet.

At least looking at this kind of vibes and environment in a group ya. HAHA!!

Telegram group for live betting why not, but there should be a pinned message reminding people about potential messages from other members who pretend to be the admin, make that pin warning and set up rules, and be quick to ban people who will not follow the group's rules and guidelines.
Telegram is very notorious for spamming and scamming if you are fully aware of it and set up a necessary action your group will be fine.

As someone who makes sports bets I think your idea is a good idea because as you said when we place bets we are based on analyzes we do and those analyzes are thanks to information (from news channels and commentary on sports sites) we get and most of the times at the time of the game we realize that the game is not going as in the analysis and we are left with doubts about what to do because to get information quickly to make any decision becomes difficult, but if there was a telegram channel to discuss betting related matters , then we would have a lot of information sharing quickly. I'm not talking about these signal groups or scammers who charge money, I'm talking about a free telegram channel, where everyone can enter and talk about games without charging anything.

If it will help people on its betting why not, just be strict on your members because there are so many manipulations, imitations, and deceit in the telegram, make it clear if you are going to offer premium memberships.


Just be active on telegram or get a moderator, we all know telegram is full of spammers many people will join your group so they can spam you with their scams, so be quick to ban and limit people, it's a big achievement if you can set up a good community it will benefit many betting people.

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I think this is a good idea it will help the new gambler. But I have a doubt at the prediction system because gambling totally depends on luck . But overall it will be nice. But when the number of group members increases, the discussion and spam messages will increase.  Considering this, you should also open a channel.

That is why it is important to also have some control system that filters out information and the joining members even. I hope this idea will be pushed through and also become successful because it can be really beneficial. Also, activeness in posting and circulation of information is important, unlike those who are just active during the initial period and suddenly stopped.

I think that would only result in spam messages if you are not good at controlling the channel to prevent spam. Of course, everyone will share their own betting tips or picks, and it's hard to follow who is really having success in sports betting.

To be honest, I find it more appealing if we have a thread here to discuss, and share about betting.
At least, it's easy to track the records of the poster.

For NBA, we have a thread here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5091185.9680

You can have discussions in this forum about bets and also in telegram. To do that, you should also have a strict rules to avoid spam as the members go a lot of members will message and the more more messages the group has the bet tips will be flooded with the messages. If it will help any gamblers who are interested then why stop creating and start doing your idea of creating a telegram group. Rhere are people who will imitate someone and share. I also agree with you assigning admins on your telegram group.

We, as a bitcointalk community, do not like to shift our conversations to other platforms like telegrams etc (unless absolutely necessary).
If you want to discuss the live betting, better do it on this platform.

Though i am interested to know what you discuss in that group, but i am not joining the telegram group. Please discuss everything here.

Scammers are using Telegram as their platform to scam people and to spam even useful channels. If its about discussion, I don't think Telegram is the best market because as what I've told you, the said platform is filled with scammers and spammers. If you want to share or discuss something, you better pick trusted and platforms, especially gambling-related groups and communities.

I also think the same that OP wants to gather like-minded people to the telegram group where he might offer paid predictions of matches etc.
It's always risky to join such groups due to a number of reasons.

By the way has anyone joined the group and found anything useful. Those who join can share their experience here.

Hi !
I don't think it would be a very good idea because people already have a lot of places to go and bet and at the same time you would have to answer few questions seriously like : How could they trust you ?
Where is the money gonna go? Is it a Blockchain betting? Things like that are not hard to do but if you succeed in doing that then you already have a betting site, functional and on the road which again is quite competitive since the market is not really easy to get into therefore you would have to make sure it's really good and trusted and then you would have to spend money on advertising as well, have you thought about all of that ?

If you are talking about analysis of the game you can easily find such a group on telegram but most will just rather be private about their bet but can give out predictions in a discussion forum, note be careful about telegram group to avoid scam.

No suggestion, if you create a telegram group, my advice stop don't make it, if you keep insisting on creating a telegram group, your group will become a hotbed of fraud.

There is no discussion and prediction of betting expected in the telegram group, this forum is better for discussing all forms of gambling, sports, casino betting and so on, in a transparent way.

I once joined one of the telegram betting groups, all discussions are nonsense, nothing can be taken at stake, let people determine their own bets according to their abilities, because gambling has the nature of luck.

Can ton be more specific on the type of game you talking about, if you looking for some lively discussion on live casino games you can check most casinos offer players the feature of getting to chat with another player about the game, but it may not happen on telegram but if you looking to build something like that them you will need to build a telegram channel where group members can share their thoughts?

I'm starting to get the idea that a Telegram group is being created to see which bookmakers can take unfair advantage? Sad that there is a lot of interest in this. And players will also complain to the relevant bookmakers if a bookmaker does not pay them out?! Things are getting more crazy and crazy. Where is the time that players just played fair and really gamble?

The idea to share discussion on sports and caisnos is good. As yours isn't a group that provides tipster, then it will reach good number of users. Mutual discussion on matches same as that we do in our forum will help people know better about the particular match as well as the players involved in the match. Maybe with this one can have better understanding in picking the right odds. With casinos this suggestions won't bring in profit, as everything is much dependent on luck.

This is nice, though many this days consider telegram as a den for scammers, just like you said, there are many fixed bet scammers all over telegram, but if you can maintain your community and also be vigilant enough to make sure no scammer comes in pretending to be a genuine member of the community in other you scam anyone through their fixed bet shit.

I am not a serious or rather, a frequent gambler, but I will join the discussion too, hopefully, I will learn a thing or two to add to what I already know about betting/gambling.

Honestly, this is also what came into my mind when I read the topics title. I thought OP's idea is to create a telegram gambling bot or something like that til I read the full topic.
OP's idea is good and such group will be a great gathering place for in-play betting fans. However, I share some other members concerns about the possibility of such group getting filled with trolls and especially scammers.

Yes this is the right point!
how do you know that a prediction is provided by a person who understands that sport or who is a good bettor?
I think we would have the problem of "trust" ... how to trust complete strangers who write on telegram?

We need a rating system for each bettor ...
Because maybe they could suggest an "easy" result (therefore a very low odds) and in practice become simply a way to suggest events with an easy to guess result!

or it could become a group where those who post more often "maybe screaming in CAPS LOCK" or with a nice graphics would attract more attention ... Not to mention the possibility of deleting messages in case of negative results! ::)

Yeah, that's the part that he has to endure and filter as much as he can.

A growing group really is a vital process for someone who's able to manage it successfully. There will be imitators that are actual scammers playing their scheme on that group.

That's why it's not going to work that easy or else, he has to go through several ups and downs before he's able to manage it wholly. Unless he has already a plan for its management.

It seems that you have predicted it right because upon checking the telegram group, I can see that there was a referral link offered by the admin/bot. The link was bk8. Inside the group we can see that most post are screenshot of the bet made. I think the bets came from bk8.

Some members there also have a bk8 tag on them. It can be obvious that they favor this site and encourage anyone in the group to sign up under their link. This group can be helpful only if the tips given there are accurate and bettors can win at most times. You can check the group by yourself. Just input this name: sportsliveforum on the search box of telegram because clicking the link on the first page is not working.

That's the sole purpose of what telegram gambling groups are for.

But you don't expect them to continually freely give all of those accurate bets and predictions. If they've proven themselves to be as accurate as what we're looking for, they'll ask for a membership fee up to being a VIP to that channel.

I don't see any significance with that if you're just for the free predictions but that's how they make money so, you join and will still experience both of it, losing and winning.

I think I stumble once but that one has a premium so I don't join it's good that you have one set up already if you can maintain the group clean from spam, and members' abuse of the group then you're good, I just would like you to be aware that there are such a thing as shitcoin campaign where they include posting on their shitcoin on telegram groups.

These are so annoying and they will ruin your group's reputation, also include on your pin about not messaging any member by the admin for some kind of offer, many will imitate you to scam your members.

^ Possible that this will happen.
I always think negatively when it comes to telegram because it is very easy to trick anyone there including your member of course. It is easy also to personate your admin and even pretending as one of your staff and asking for financial that could probably be a way to scam people.
Why notif you really like it just build your own gambling casino, there is no third party involved,d and it probably you will gain trust from members and this community.

  The obvious thing would be to kick start via established users here, presumably no spam kings would originate from signing up people who express an interest on this thread.

I did used to post my daily bets in advance for esports in advance of the game, I would discuss prospects and various odds vs the teams playing etc.   Put a bit of effort into that writing (the idea roughly being you build a record of accuracy and gain status perhaps) and the website was well organized, I would prefer that over telegram phone messaging which is ok but usually quite brief.   The website tended to neglect its contributors just in any way, there was little feedback or even virtual gains in being an active user so it didn't succeed.
 It will be hard to build up that regular involvement in any serious way but I like the idea in theory.   Ive been the member of over a dozen betting groups, regular viewers of various twitch broadcasts, youtube etc.   it can work but to make it a regular thing is hard to do

Why would you name it a forum when it is a channel and for a  sports betting discussion I think Discord is a good platform as you can create sub channels for example channel chat for football betting or for a certain  tournament, general chats, live betting chats and casinos chats.

Always nice to see another telegram group about gambling and sports betting. I agree with you that there is no real active group for live betting, maybe the market for live betting is not so big and most sport betters like to place their bet in advance. The only problem I see is that you need some active moderation, because as soon as there some active members there will also be bots and scammers. I noticed that some telegram groups have their own bots that remove users who post wrong things, not sure if you have to pay for these anti scam bots or if they are free. This will of course only get rid of the obvious bots from your group, it still needs some admins who engage with users and filter out any more sophisticated scammers.

What the service choose to achieve is not clear to me haven't read the various replies of other users I have reserve my comment for now to see why the ops will comments as regards the subject matter, if it a telegram group chat based on football bets or a general football discussion channel let wait to see what the member will come up with next.

Why not? You can make such group but what goals do you want to achieve? Just a group for talks? It is easy but it will be the same group as others. For predictions? There will be lots of scammers or men with strange predictions. And why do you think, that your group will be better than others?

Hello there I think it the idea is very cool ;) Please do proceed and if it is okay with you, please invite me to that group. Here is my Telegram: @iamEureka

I was thinking of doing this before, it's good that there is someone that is planning to do it already :)

Thanks in advance!

We know how newbies wants to learn with the gambling with different strategies still its better to make sure your discord is safe and have a pinned post about the outside transactions to make them safe from the people who just come in and to scam other members to prevent ruining the reputation of your community. Also, make sure its all about the information and no money involved transactions like let them make a bet for them but this kind of group helps each other to have a good knowledge and gain strategy.

Sorry but I think this is not needed anymore because within this forum we already have so-called gambling discussion. Not this current one here where you posted your thread but it was located under the child boards. Here's a direct link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=228.0 what is good with it is that you can find specific games.

The group you are creating seem to be a combination of sports and casino but there is no categorization of the games? I think the convo won't flow properly that way. Some gambling sites also have built their own communities aside from this forum bitcointalk. You can just join there if you wanted too. Overall, this was only my opinion. The decision is still on you if you want to continue with your plans. Goodluck.

Yes, all discussions regards sports, casino games, predictions, strategies, advices, news can be done on this forum through public threads where everyone have access to, instead of a telegram group which will be restricted to few individuals. The forum is much more embracing, accessible and organized to discuss gambling matters.

If OP wants to talk about a match, its odds and opinions on who is going to win, he can simply create a thread at the board you linked on your post above. Moreover, I think he has more chances of finding solid arguments and predictions on this forum than at a random telegram group where its members don't have a history like members of bitcointalk forum have in gambling section.

Telegram is a scammers paradise and its probably the worst place you can make any kind of group which requires some kind of trust as far as your money is concerned. I don't think you will have an easy time finding people to trust your live betting group. You might have a better chance if you had some trustworthy people backing you. But even then scammers would see your group and its members as an easy target. Basically I would not use Telegram if I were you.

What was your motivation for using Telegram anyway? To stay anonymous and if something happens you would have a easy way to hide your tracks?

That's correct, lots of scammers in a telegram group but since it's not an investment, then I think OP is still safe. It's a group that would share their picks, so as long as OP is not following the tipster blindly, then I guess there's a chance that he will get what he wants.

Thanks guys. It really gives me some insight about what to look for and expect. I’m not making a gambling website or what, it’s just a kinda forum. Those who bet live normally knows how the thoughts can change with just a comment. So i want to have a group where people can share their views or whatsoever on games.

eg: chelsea vs man u. The on going match is 1-0 @73 minutes.. and man u isnt attacking or whatsoever. But i feel like buying 1-1. Then comes someone who analyses the match and give his opinion that maybe 1-1 isnt possible… so you know, i kinda will be cautious when bet.

At least looking at this kind of vibes and environment in a group ya. HAHA!!
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Waiting for you Update mate , though I have joined your Group  yesterday but I want you to bring Update here in your thread for more transparent result and for another set of participants .
and also best to try updating  time to time mate because I am sure there are lots of us who wanted to be part of this.

Great idea, I will join if there will be some truly interesting info there. Thank you for making this world better.

Even if you are trying to make some genuine betting group there will be no restriction on joining and then scammers will also come in attempt to promote some fake website with fake betting slips and there might be many victims for it so in my opinion it's not safe so avoid this as much you can and have normal discussion on the forum only.

I wonder when he will come back here and tell us if he has already created his telegram live betting group or is still not done that. No matter what he already did, I hope he can give his predictions and not ask for subscriptions from his members since he needs to gain trust from them. I think he can share his prediction here to build the trust, and then he can create a telegram group for his subscribers after he can get his reputation here.

I really likes your courage in dropping a link for we to join your  Telegram channel. You know that not everyone likes this kind of request or I don't even know what to call it. I will check it and see what it is more likely to look like. But next time when you are creating something, it will be better to have enough audience before you come here and invite anybody interested. I don't discriminate that is why I support and loves your courage.

I very much agree with this advice, because it is more serious to have a thread here and not in Tg, now seeing it from another point of view I also know that not all players have the forum culture that we have, and I know that a way to generate more traffic and getting more people to the site is through tg, or any other social network.

For me the biggest scams can happen through tg, and I am also one of those who believe that many of the tg scammers extract our leaked data from many platforms that we sometimes leave on sites.

This is also my concern , though we cannot tell if this is the same as the past scams  yet at least we can warn possible players and participants to take precautionary measures before engaging with high amount here.

But the Idea is cool and we are looking for more of this kind in other area of gambling .

maybe he wanted to make it differently to what we have in the past, discord is commonly used in this kind of offering so Telegram is His target now since there are so much users of telegram compared to Discord.
but the problem is Telegram is having many issues even in the past so yeah he may be take this hard to lure users to partake.

How reliable would those your predicted games be? I have joined about 1 to 2 group were I charged to subscribed to the group and they posted matches with their predictions, I followed as predicted but it was against their analysis this frequently happens and I unsubscribed from the group though before I did that have been receiving some pm from people around the group giving assurance of some fixed matches which I never responded to them anymore after subscription to a group and all I see was total failure to me.

Most telegrams live betting group I know is a place to share analysis and updates over a live game. I don't take their analysis as a fact or even buy 'it's fixed match, trust us' bullshit. So yeah, join but take their advice at your own risk. guys. Anyone else treating it any more than that is a scammer.

I am sure many people would have tried to create a group just like how you describe but would have failed.
I think the reason behind it is that it is difficult to moderate once a large number of people join the group.
Let's say the group has 10k active members and 2k of them are scammers. It will be really difficult for you to moderate the group.
Once people see there are scammers in the group who are spamming they will decide to leave the group.
So either you should be really good at moderation or setup bots which can identify spam messages and delete them.

Besides that, what's in it for the users by sharing their bets ?

I've joined different betting groups on Telegram before and I just realized that lots of scammers are using this platform because they could easily hide their identities and stay anonymous there. Taking analysis from any Telegram community isn't reliable. There are better platforms for you to use where you could relate your gambling strategies and gain knowledge about gambling analysis.

believe me people will abuse such, it got more disgusting seeing all manner of posts and irrelevant links members on a telegram group do post and spam the whole atmosphere there, except if you're going to disable everyone from making a post on the group of which i see not to be good enough since the major intention is to engage on interactions, i will advise to stick to the ones here on the forum, we have lots of threads and childboards on the gambling board here where varieties of discussions in this manners could be engaged, that's my opinion anyway.

In fact, there are already many similar groups in telegram, some have more than 500,000 members, but we don't know if there are bots or these are real users, since in the end you are offered a paid subscription to VIP channels everywhere.

I don't think op require money to join his prediction group if at all. He has made a good move and I think this is good to be a good idea since it's going to be free. I know many other gambling prediction groups in telegram which do not require money to join especially for football matches. This group can serve as a guide for sportbook gamblers to have quick place to get sport prediction easily without stress.

If I'm not wrong, Telegram groups can have a maximum of 200000 members. Initially the telegram groups provide free prediction service. With time this gradually gets segregated as VIP service, non-VIP service. Some groups even add us without our interest. Majority of the scams are happening through telegram, so it is a must to be very careful while joining different telegram groups for different reasons.

that is why they need to have plenty of Admins to take their time differently to focus in the Group because this is a worldwide theme so they need to have their part in each time zone so 24/7 operation will be taken into consideration .
spammers can be tolerated but scammers must be the main target as for sure there will be many of them that will get into this and take their chances to victimize the members.
as Gamblers has mostly a enough funds to spend in their activities so scammers are eager to take one .

because he wanted to lure many possible gamblers as this is a new way of gambling and yes interesting for me and maybe for many , but first he must prove the trust worthiness of the business.
Have joined the telegram and will investigate and observe if worth trusting .

Why would anyone join your telegram group when we do not know your reputation?
Better show some of your predictions here so people know how precise are your predictions. There are million of betting groups on telegram but most of them are useless spam.

Why would anyone follow or join a telegram group related to betting? Telegram is full of scams and spam channels and any user should avoid such channels. Another important question is why would anyone provide free tips to other members of that channel? Nothing is free when you are talking about money, there is always a hidden agenda behind such group.

We have to be very careful if it's a Telegram group because we already know previously that in Telegram, many scammers will trick us, especially if the group owner does not have a reputable account on this forum. But if the owner of that group also has a reputation here, I think it will be easier to manage because people on this forum will check the ANN and submit complaints if they find problems in the Telegram group.

With so many scamers happening in the telegram group, it is very difficult to create a solid community, especially with predictions and types of games because later your group will become a place for referral promotions or a collection of scamers, for suggestions to create a group you should recruit people who really It's true to share one goal with you so that the group can be a fun chat and provide good info to be together and talk about soccer betting, it will be very exciting because there are many predictions that will happen.

If you think you have what it takes, then go on. I have seen many sport bet telegram groups that are doing pretty well with so many particular that are after sport predictions and sure match results. Although one thing I've noticed about this telegram group is that they do ask for vip match predictions for whosever is interested after they have gained a lots of members. Although it's not always compulsory but that is mostly there target. I can see that everyone wants to make extra cash from side hustles.

If everyone is free to join then its likely to happen. Thats why I dont really join in group about predictions because you cant get the idea that you're looking for since scammers are present.

If op is true to his intention then its fine to create his own betting group to share ideas. But as you've said, this forum is also enough for me to fill my mind with the information that I need so its not necessary to join in betting group.

Yeah that's the main reason why betting groups are not so successful on Telegram. It's full of spammers so nobody would wanna gamble there anyway.
Free tips/signals are quite common on Telegram. Although I don't know what's in it for them but I have seen many groups which provide free tips/signals.
May be they are just promoting their services and then once we are addicted to their services they ask for money for the advanced services they provide.
Or may be they use those tips/signals for their own benefit first and then later they share on to the users so that they can benefit more out of it.

So what is the Update mate?  is there any possible way that this will take place sooner?

I want to join this but of course with small amount to try for .


and also please be active to answer some points here specially why telegram instead of Discord .

And instead you focus on particular things you will get annoyed on spammers discussing nonsense thing so for me I always prefer betting solely and I never find these group relevant because sometimes their intention is just to shady for us to know later own since some of them asking premium membership for their tips and they target newbies for this.

That's why its better for all of us to just use our own research and bet only on sports we are familiar because this will be more better to us.

I don`t think we`ll see some updates. The last post was 19 of may. And it was the day of registration. But the OP still reading, possibly even this thread. The telegram group in the first post, there are 48 members there.
PS. I see referral link in his profile, may be everything that the OP do is just to get referrals.

Someone can join on your Telegram group but no one will share his/her actual bet even me. Someone can join there for enjoy the fun he he. Even if someone is there with some direction, no one will believe it.  Because since it is an open and free group, scammers will must attack there

He has created a free group and gamblers are not interested in joining. Because this group will be a great place for scammers at some point as the group will be popular. So I think there is no need to open a group, because every gambling website has their official channel group. And how effective the paid service is is a matter of concern, because no matter how expert you are, there is no guarantee that all your predictions will work for others. There are a lot of scams going on online in the name of paid groups, which is nothing new.

There may be many scammers around that is for sure, it is a common problem with most of the telegram groups that are dedicated to crypto and new projects and it may be replicated in a betting group. Despite that, I do not see clear benefits for the users, perhaps getting early bird promotions of offers directly published for members only... to the owner of course there would be payments for advertising.

I just visited and it doesn't seem very active, just two or three comments per day! Either OP doesn't know how to promote it and how to attract new members or people are not really interested in this kind of groups.

They can add a feature to reward those who give good predictions to incentivize members to share their bets but not sure how to properly implement such feature or if it's even possible to implement it.

it's easy to create a group like this, but what's hard is keeping it away from scammers. If you are not ready to keep updating and monitoring your group, I believe this will be a hotbed for scammers. people will not easily believe the live betting that is carried out in this group.
and even you insert your affiliate for your benefit, it's not wrong but it needs good development for a live betting group like the one you created, because telegram is full of scammers.

That is just what will happen, people in the telegram group will be able to contact the other people on the same telegram group, try their best to scam, also the group itself can be a scam place. Also I will not even prefer to use the group because I will prefer prediction site. I do not also know if something like that can start on this forum on gambling board which is much better.

Predicting anything is like tossing a coin in the air and you never know what will be the result... Heads or tails. Similarly, there is no guarantee that the prediction posted in your telegram group will come true. But one thing is for sure people will lose money. For that reason, I'm not in favor of creating a telegram group.

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Yes. This is also a Bitter reality, airdrop hunters will jump in to promote their ref links

To predict the outcome of a game is not a easy task and it takes understanding about what the person is trying to predict. If op is very good at sport games and he thinks he can handle a group where he will be able to give out predictions about different sport games, I that will be a good move and I will support that motive. We should understand that not all that we predict will workout based on how we ja e predicted it.

People should really be keen or mindful in regards into their bets and if they are following someone then always verify it or make out some research first before proceeding and not totally relying on someones calls.

Even though its free then its always been suggested that you should make your own and snip out some good ideas from others if its available.If winning rate is high then people will normally be following
but i wont be surprised if ever the time comes that there would be some paying of subscription fees.  :D

The main problem that you have to create at least 2 groups. One group for all and the second - only for men, you like from the first group. But you have to read all this spam in the first group to find these guys.
And when you find men who thinks like you - you don`t need any group - they mostly will have the same opinion. :)

I think we need to give him sometimes so he can think well and look for other strategies of inviting more telegram users. It is not easy to have this kind of group and it will take some times before other people may decided to join the group. Some may want to see good and frequent prediction games before they can invite their friends. I think if op can post more winning games, then there will be more users that will join.

it doesn't look reliable :D You sure you wanna start this venture?

Of course, such an event can be done, but almost certainly an invasion of all sorts of smart people and scammers will immediately begin, who will want to troll or even hope to somehow make money on it. So I don't think that something good and useful for gamblers can come out of the proposal that OP wrote.
You should not even try to start such a project.

I don't think that it would be a good idea to share your bet to other users. You can talk about a forum where each users can share his opinion about a match, but not to put his bets publicly.

Anyway, the only good thing would be to create a community of bettors, each one share his opinion about a match and everyone can take his own decision.

Forming a telegram group with legit punters who are actually willing to share their predictions with you is going to be tough op which some of the posters above already pointed out.

Trusting random strangers in this world isn't easy at all which is the primary reason why you will find it difficult to accomplish your goal in this case. Instead, it would be better to depend on popular punters who post free and paid predictions regularly.

You can find such punters in sites like OLBG etc. Do your research before following any of them.

If the group setting is public, then potentially scammers can join at any time and post anything to trap other gamblers or even scam to make money. I think admin should limit new members joining and being active 24/7 to monitoring and verifying news from every poster.

You are right. As far as I can see, no new members have joined the group during the last few days. Not sure if OP is still interested in this project and if he is still working on it. He was last active on this forum like a month ago so maybe he just lost interest in it.
I like your suggestion, though. Updating this thread with prediction from the telegram group which turned out to be correct may give more credibility to the group and incentivize more members to join it.

Scammers are waiting for a chance, and they can use it to scam gamblers. So I also agree with your suggestion, if the admin limits the time to join the group members. Then it will be much more effective to deter scammers. It is very difficult to manage a group properly and scammer free. Therefore, the OP should manage this group with all considerations in mind, so as not to create problems in the future.

I think many channels offer that, but most of the groups that I see are either paid or some special invite necessary to access it. Paid groups are somewhat sketchy because of the "claims" they have, and that's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to produced stuff. I think another betting group or something is also reselling it. Repeating signals all over, and I think I saw that, but that's mostly with signal groups for trading.

Thanks for your invitation. I do think it's nice to have a place where you can share bets or something.

Abuse or wrongly use of opportunities like this on platforms should be discouraged, we are the problems of our current experience in one way or the other, some intentionally post on live group chats oñ telegrams and other social media handles just to perpetrate their scams on members while some unnecessarily spam the whole platforms, that's why many sought for a reputable place like this to make their services coordinated against wrong abuse.

So in addition to limiting group members, it will be very effective if new members register a telegram account name on the google form that has been provided along with photo evidence of gambling activities to verify active gamblers and not scammers.

The risk of the group being paid because the user will share the signal or anything on another private group with the same access and payment method, there is no denying that maybe 20% of the VIP group members do that to replace the money paid to the main group. But basically we hope that scammers are not allowed to share false information with groups about gambling.

Has anyone joined @OP after almost 1 month and got the latest update from @OP? I wonder if the people who join the @OP can really benefit from sharing match predictions and winning them? I don't think @OP will come back after sharing his telegram channel and this is one bad example if someone wants to promote their telegram channel.

^ I suspected OP did not succeed here, OP online was on May 19 and I think there is no further activity until now.
No one will have an interest in what OP's offered, Telegram group sounds shitty third-party social media and probably no one will join there as OP said.
Betting should be done on an official gambling casino site because the casino itself seems like the fund escrow if it once reputable that who can entrust our money, not on the Telegram.

In the past people used similar bookies as they don't have access to gambling in their countries. Now things have changed and almost every country people are able to gamble online, though they weren't able to spend offline. Also these are trusted platforms, where millions have been wagered by large number of users. So, making a telegram group and support live betting is a part of scam believing we're in the old era.

We know how telegram works and there are a lot of scammers trying to DM with you out there also OP does not any kind of update, also most of the gambling platform today has their own chat box now so players can interact it is ideal if this topic will be close.

Most of those free and "paid" betting groups are scam. Like 99% of those. They just do random predictions or like you said, copy pastes "signals" from other group. The free/trial groups are for baiting people. They give 1 or 2 correct prediction, people think they are legit and then end up joining their premium group which is filled with nothing but stolen/useless signals.

Not worth joining those groups. Do you own research and place your own bets!

I suspect that is also the case because we already know that Telegram is a bad place to be a promotional medium, especially from people we don't really know before. Therefore, I wonder if anyone from this forum has tried to find out how the @OP's channel is. But if @OP could be more active on this forum, I think he could be successful in convincing people here to join him.

Although telegram is a useful application but it is also commonly used by scammers. I know many people willing to join the OP telegram group if they have trust in the OP. He needs to prove himself on this forum first that he is really capable of giving good predictions for betting.
By the way, he hasn't replied here for a month now which shows he might have given up on his idea.

Telegram is a better program than WhatsApp but unfortunately, many people who use crypto know scammers also use that telegram to deceive people who are less informed about crypto. This causes many of us to feel wary if someone spreads their Telegram channel link on the forum, especially if that person is someone who has just joined the forum. I don't have any hope in him because I think he's already gone elsewhere to get people out there.

OP gather no response from the community thats why he stopped collaborating in our forum here , and obviously he wanted to directly take our ideas with His telegram channel and not to tackle here in forum.
if this is his style? then he will gather nothing from us because we are enough of telegram scam ,spam and BS activities .

It's not a bad idea, but to be honest, I don't see much point in it. There are forums where a lot of experienced experts and beginners gather. This is a proven and reliable place where you can always find the answer to your question. Why go to some unknown channel in the telegram, where (according to your own words) a lot of scammers present?

It's because he probably wanted to use some experienced punters in order to earn profits for himself without having to pay anything, but that clearly didn't work out.

He underestimated the members of this forum and clearly understood that no one here is gullible enough to co-operate with his silly plan which is why he most probably won't return to this forum in my opinion.

This can be effective if the group admin can attach this thing. But if the admin has to take so much pressure to manage a group, it will discourage him a lot. Again, it is important to think about creating a group and if someone is a victim of a scam because of that group, he should take responsibility for it. Everyone in the crypto community knows that there will be more scammers in Telegram. So it is difficult to manage a telegram group.

It's difficult but it's possible, at the end of the day, it still depends on how the admin will manage the group, because with an irresponsible admin, the group will not be successful. If there are other groups who are not abused by scammers and spammers, then I think it's not impossible here, the most important is that the pick or the betting tip is accurate, or it wins most of the time.

I don't think it will be his responsibility. Unless he's the one that scammed the member. But if not, he will not be accountable of the lost money of the Telegram group's member.
We should know that it is our own responsibility to be careful and mindful of our assets. If we got scammed, it is mostly ourselves that should take the blame. Not other people.

I think it's his responsibility to make sure that no scams are promoted in his group. Since he has posted here about his group, if someone is the victim of a scam in the group then that member will post here. So now we are warning this member so that he does not have to face any big problem in future. He can create groups and add members if he can keep the environment of the group scammer free.

He won't get any notices if you call him @OP instead of his real username. Why don't you use @IAmVery3vil or PMs to try to reach him instead? Moreover it would be quicker to just look at his telegram group yourself instead of trying to ask things about it to someone not logged in for one month. You would realize it's just a small sports betting group mainly talking about bk8. Then it could interest you only if you are a bk8 user.

Well this is certainly a challenge, for a group or super group of telegram you need to have a lot To people, I think that for which they have a total control of this it is necessary that they can have several moderators and that they are 24h, perhaps the users are protected and the true meaning of the group is not deviated, it is very easy for the scammers Enter speaking for private messages, the best thing before this is to report them so that they do not continue in it. And as it is a group for trading where the ideas of each user are shared, it is necessary to have very good control to what things they publish, the rules of the group must be very strict.

Building trust in a group is not easy. this needs some process to invite more members into groups, moreover members who are actively playing gambling.
Additionally, as an owner of the group, you also need to provide more info in order to make the group live, although maybe some of your members are still silent, they may sometimes open your group and read the information.
Actually, when your group is new enough, you may be far from expectations, not many real members may be interested, but this is the process.
btw, in my opinion, sharing about gambling will also limit some discussion on general strategies or tricks. But you may not find professional gamblers who will share their exact tricks and strategy in your group, none will tell their secret. I think that if your group is active and good enough, the group will be much more appropriate for many new gamblers.

Yes, this is the responsibility of the owner of the group if the OP cares enough about the group. We can deny that most of in all telegram groups, we will find such trashes, scams, and also unexpected shares by the members. That is why the owner or administrator of the group should be aware of this by deleting the message, limiting the chat or sending images, and also another set in the group. The power can also give some rules and regulation being iin the group.

What kind of information do you think he needs to share (as a group admin)!? Do you mean he have to post his own predictions regurarely? Not sure, but I don't think this is really needed.

Many members keep saying this. It's not true  There are many pro gamblers who will be more than happy to share their predictions, strategies, tips... if they find a friendly enough community.

^I dont know if there is really a secret when it comes to gambling betting casino, every match is also unpredictable the only advantage that you have is that when you know better the odds and of course, the team per match.
Telegram group sharing is probably all about theories and dont have technical support prediction which for me, probably nonsense. I did not consider there is what they called pro in betting.

Aside from this, that group can be a pump and dump as well telling people to bet while others will do the opposite thing, I don’t trust any betting group same thing with you, because for me its nonsense. You can just share your prediction strategy but how can we know if its really ok or not? Gambling will still be risky no matter what, I’d better bet on my own using the analysis I made, by this I make no pressure to myself.

All of this is planned so that they can do pure manipulation on their group or even earn for new people to come in their channel so its not good to trust them because we can actually bet without having their presence, we just need be familiar on the game we are in since it will give us more chances to gain profit rather than knowing nothing and just rely on things they said.

I think that the main problem is that the OP even doesn`t know for what purposes he wants this group. It is possible to create group for just talking - but there are lots of same groups. May be he wants to create group with predictions - in this way he has to search members and test their predictions for some time. Or he wants, as he says, to find members, who thinks the same, but it even sounds strange - the easier way to find group with such participants.

So what's the next move? what are the update about your telegram plans ? though there are no one who wanted to participate in your  target market here , so where do you think this heading?

i believe that unless you shows some proof of legitimacy , and your trustworthiness , then none of us will ever support you.

But we are all mature now had tons of issue of scamming in telegram groups specially in gambling .

Managing a telegram group is not an easy thing so one must be willing to work under pressure if he wants to pursue this kind of career.

A telegram manager must clear it out or he can put such thing as a disclaimer which states that it wasn't his responsibility in case any problem happens such as scam, frauds and similar crimes but if proven that he is the ones that commit such act then he must pay big for it and even if such disclaimer is already imposed, a manager must still do his job properly and do things to prevent different types of crimes from happening like removing suspicious links/messages and banning those members that posted it.

People will not value telegram betting site all telegram betting game because they know quite well that Anakin has become a means of exporting all scamming people from different angle so it is better to establish a private site and launch it with you prospectus or again ideology so that people who will bet in your site. Myself I've been scammed true telegram group so nothing can make me to trust telegram because many people who launch a group have negative mind of having that so many of them is not legit

Having a telegram prediction group is not easy because op will need to be constantly online speculating sport games that are possible to have a high winning rate. He can make the group a discuss group where anyone can come up with their own predictions so it will not look like it is only op that is taking his time to bring games onboard without the assistance of other members.

Moreover, this also relates to the reputation. If he is new, he needs to build the reputation of his live telegram group, give many evidences that can support that he is profesional enough in gambling, having exoerienced in winning, and also have good trick and strategy. This will not be easy. Moreovermany new members will join the beginners. We may not get good discussion, but only spam group with similar questions, clarifications, and also accussation. In this case, the owner of the group must work harder to manage and control the group to stay under control.

But if the OP can handle it all, the telegram group can grow bigger and have good reputation. Good luck

Might be given the chance but that seems so hard in this situation, many people had suffered losses due to scams and fake groups in telegram. As to be honest, people are stepping away from telegram groups, especially when talking about money. And likely, even OP will try hard to encourage and attract gamblers but the trust can't be given so easily.

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I'm not saying OP this was a fail attempt but that was close to possible. But anyways, goodluuck.

You are right, sometimes what you say happens, in the end they say that you must pay a subscription if you want to have VIP signals and with personalized attention or similar things, from my own experience, a long time ago I had entered a group of signals for trading, and if they gave the signals, even with their own technical analysis, I remember that it was short-term and well it didn't seem bad to me, some time after a week in the same group they said that if they had liked the experience that there is another group that has to pay a subscription to have more frequent daily signals and not like in the free group that gave 1 or 2 signals a day, so I think that everything is aimed at a business model, I am not saying that the group that OP wants to create is like that , I'm just speculating on the trend of this type of groups.

So it seems to me that people will not like gambling from Telegram Group very much. There will be many scammers here and they will be stigmatized.People will play betting from the original betting site. Telegram Group People don't think perfect for gambling.If you have a strong desire to run a betting site then you will launch your own betting site by creating a very beautiful betting site and gaining popularity there.But of course you have to gain popularity with honesty.

It is possible to create telegram group with the useful information, but there is a huge quantity of the same groups and the most part of them are scammers. They are about pump/dump groups, where always there is one winner - the group admin. It is possible to get some useful information there, but it is dangerous to follow their advises.

I don't think any telegram group is needed to gamble or get any kind of direction.  Where there is a forum like Bitcointalk. There is a lot of gambling in this forum.  And there are a lot of topics open here that are going to take direction on gambling.  And if you want, you can create a topic here.  That's what you want to know.  So why  need to create a shit telegram group?

Bitcointalk is already enough for us gamblers to discuss things about what we are doing and get some updates towards the casino we are playing to and its more safer for newbies to go with because they can get more valid information from legitimate users who share their tactics and experiences upon their game time.

Telegram group is just used by some people thinking that they can earn more money to their members.

Why do you need a telegram if there are convenient and specially adapted forums for this? It is convenient to communicate in a telegram, because it is a messenger! I don't think this is the best place to bet.

It will good if you can manage your telegram channel properly without any scamming . In this case you should make private your channel and add only real user who want to join in your channel . All interested people you should provide them your channel link via pm . It will protect your channel from attacking by scammer

Actually if OP tend to help people then it is a best choice but the problem is how legit his plans is and hot dedicated he is in certain occasion?
I know that at some point this is just another way to scam gamblers , because OP does not Even updating this thread and giving his opinion id people that asks important question for the said offer.

The board is for oldschool guys. Newcomers don`t like it. They choose short posts with fast answers - twit, telegram, whatsapp and different video services. As for me - the most useful information i get here, but i have to spend time to find it. If i need some information faster - it would be better to use telegram. You always can choose what is more important right now - fast information that you need to check later or to spend time but to get the proved information

I also notice that the speed of information exchange is increasing, which leads to a reduction in the texts of "question-answer" messages. However, it is not always possible to answer briefly, sometimes it is necessary in detail. Old-school guys are certainly used to this, but for new users it seems boring and superfluous. And they are already just annoyed by long answers. It's just that they are not accustomed to reading for a long time and delving into the essence of the matter, thinking with their brains. This is, of course, in a sense, the degradation of man, but alas, the next generations will live with this.
In Telegram, I am always annoyed by empty chatter and mutual claims and disputes about who their disputants are more of a fool and who are less.
But you still have to waste time scrolling through this "verbal diarrhea".  ;D

So, I think it makes little sense to make another group in telegrams also because they all live and actively develop not for too long. Then all these groups die safely, and the time spent on them cannot be returned.

Telegram is also a good place to join group that you can get daily prediction of games and it do make it easier for gamblers to get fast forcast so anyone can modify to suit their gaming strategy or patterns. Also WhatsApp is a good place just like telegram but telegram is more advance with gamblers from different region of the world.

I quit Telegram years ago,,, 2017/18 was the last time I had it. I still open it now and then to look for contacts or files but whenever I open it it totally reminds me of ICO scams and ponzis,,, which is why nft and defi still love it. Gambling groups are 100% better here on forums if you know which threads to focus on.

I have seen new accounts over the years even in Gambling come in and participate and grow so it is not like there are no newcomers. It is very old school though,,, cannot even embed social media  ;D

There are even research for this situation. That`s why we can see various instructions - if the target audience were born in 80th or older - it will be text instructions. If they their age 25-30 - it will be pictures. If hey are younger - it would be video. And you are right - we see this degradation around us but we can`t do anything with it - to look video is easier than to read book. And of course we waste time reading useless text in any messenger with the groups.

Actually, it's just terrible that the development of technology.  The Internet and a variety of gadgets have led to the opposite result in the development of a person as a person. 
Clip thinking, which is spreading more and more, makes people some kind of complete fools.  No new ideas, discoveries, initiatives useful to society.  Such people-robots, tightly attached to gadgets and Wikipedia (which, by the way, does not always contain reliable information :)), are just a "herd of sheep" that politicians can lead wherever they please. 
And almost always "in the wrong direction" but to where these politicians themselves earn more. 

In general, "the end of history," as Fukoyama writes. ;D :(

Like you, telegram was the best place during those days of ico scams, a lot of investors hook to certain group

believing that it can change their life after following them. Those are the days, moving forward with sports betting,
telegram is also good in terms of sharing, but also, the forum has lots of options to learn, not just to follow things
but to use those shared picks are search deeper and find the advantages.

The initiative of the process is very good one.But the thing is most of the people will not show interest on it.Secondly the scammmers will get into this green group and make some unwanted hustle their.Then the group initiation was spoiled,the people may follow the scammers.It may leads to the scammers group,the positive feedback of the group also spoiled.

If someone creates a group and discusses it among gamblers, there is no objection. But the problem is that it will be difficult for the admin to control the scammers. If you are active in Telegram, you can see how many unnecessary messages come every day, most of which are scammers.
And scammers pay more attention to the groups in which crypto users are active. So considering these issues there is less interest here to join this group.

Once i heard a genius idea, that the quantity of the brain is constant for the Earth, but the quantity of "brain users" is growing up. :) This is life as is. For all the time, there were only quite a few geniuses and the main part was about nothing. But now we can see their stupidity in the internet. And at the same time, such people are convenient for politicians or governments - such people are easy to manage.

Many members think this is a bad idea just because there will be many scammers! I disagree with this and hope OP will not get discouraged or lose interest in this project.
Every new project will be the main target of scammers and since this project is based mainly on telegram, their job will be even easier. But this is not a reason to give up. There are many ways to protect legit users such as hiring moderators for the group or even developing a bot which deletes spam messages and bans spammers.

I am not saying the forums are without the spammers, the shillers, the bots. There are all coming to the forum and crowding it out. But I think since the moderators improve, fellow posters get better at helping moderate and merit systems as well,,, all of this is in a way making certain threads great and certain others not so.

At least on forums you have individuals and some campaign managers keeping the place tidy, you have nothing of the sort in Telegram where community managers just filter scams and fud and bad bots but they actually encourage shillers unfortunately.

It's been over a month or so now since this member had posted the link to the telegram group.
So for those who managed to join in, how has the experience been so far?
Care to share your view on it and if it had helped you in your daily selections on matches?
Success rate perhaps?

Also for those who said they would see an excess amount of spammers if they did join, how has this been for you?
Received any solicitation messages from people who you had never seen on there or never chatted with before?

I have had my experience in receiving such messages and this is why I am selective in who I give out my contact link to and which groups I do join up.

Does it really mean that scammers spam all the available telegram groups? Are there not groups free of scammers in telegram. Well, whether there be scammers or not, I am not willing to visit telegram groups for gambling.
Your idea is fine and it will be good of you if you create a thread for same purpose here in the forum.
People will be more comfortable here than in the telegram groups.

some people does not trust telegram group because of the level of scams that occur in telegram, but a normal satisfaction of a gambler you must have a channel or you have a group that baby giving you all the necessary informations check gamblings that is legit. For WhatsApp group I will not agree with you because not every country that make use of WhatsApp group some countries WhatsApp is unknown to them where information can be get very easy and simple in social media is from Facebook, Twitter and Instagram so this three different social medium platforms is where purple get information of cryptocurrency and the gambling site and follow it up because many people is no longer trusting any information that come from telegram group because of the level of scams in telegram.

Scams mostly happen in telegram so most provably experience guys did not want to deal anyone especially if the group created is shady. Maybe there are some curious to know what they can offer but for sure it will end up scamming the same as others do. Many people take advantage with this that's why for newbies its good if they do their own diligence to do some research.

Trying to set up and advertise Telegram groups in public, yes, I have my serious thoughts about that too, to be honest. You often see that such groups are founded with only one goal and that is to make money. There are many people who have bad will and try to make money that way. It wouldn't surprise me either if money is asked from players to bet on a certain match because there would be certain info that a match would be fixed. Don't believe such nonsense stories. And be careful guys.

Btw, is it running now? What are the difficulties that make it difficult for your telegram group to develop or difficult to get trust from members?
Maybe later can share it here.
Actually, not many groups voluntarily discuss this, especially in betting or gambling. If it's a group about trading, we can find a few. but when it comes to gambling, only a few people are concerned with this field.

Yes, chatting via telegram group may be more instant than discussed here. Moreover, if that is alive chats are done by the admin and also other several members. This will give the discussion lively and ongoing moreover when we are also in gambling activity at that time, we may be still able to chat in the group. But then the question is can we trust the discussion? it will depend on ourselves, by considering the pros and cons because there will be many opinions about gambling strategy decisionss, tricks, tips, and others.

But, how do you know that only less people will show an interest to this project? This is related to betting and many people are now hook on it. Would it be better if we stop thinking negative in advance as it can discourage us easily to what we are planning but instead, we must continue to deploy our project and observe things if it's going well, if not then we can think of ways to improve it.

If all still fails then that must be the time to accept things and move on. If the admin of the group is active and he guards his group properly then I don't think scammers will get a chance to scam their members because they will be block in an instant and every member of the group will be warned out. 

On the other side we can miss something important in telegram group. I`m using both - the board and telegram and see that here i spend more time but the information i get here i remember better and it is mostly useful. The same time in telegram i get answers very fast, but from noname users, so i don`t sure that it is truth.

Things kike this happened several times without numbers, that's why you see some telegram group got to disable members from making a post, only the admins are allowed just in other to sanitize the group from shitposters and scammers, yet you will still se some PMs from some of the members of that same group sending you irrelevant stuffs, they het to take advantage of you all because you're on the same group with them.

If the admin of the group can manage all of the numbers of active users at the same time is the risk of the possible members being prone with scammers it will become a good source of information, for sure there will be grab the opportunity to victim newbies who would like to make a bet but again it is not ideal to become dependent in the opinion and statement of other people just get an idea and at the end of the day is make your own decision for making a bet.

Discord did better than telegram on this matter, preventing the new members from joining the Discord group just to scam other old members. There are a lot of functions for auto bot to pull score results or even live stream a match between members. You guys should explore Discord for that live betting group than stay on the Telegram platform which is prone to scammers too easily.

^ I agree with this because I have both social media accounts and I prefer to use Discord over Telegram.
I don't like telegram personally, there are a lot of scams that happen on telegram which is not good for betting groups, the reputation is not good to me that is why most gamblers are not interested in this kind of social media. Instead of using a third party, why not have an official website of a gambling casino which sounds better to me. Not this Telegram.

Both platforms are heavily infested with scammers it's just telegram is more popular than discord. This is why you think the latter is safer, it's not.
Regarding the tg group in OP. There are fifty members and unfortunately it looks like all of them joined the group just to shill for some platforms. Personally, I think reading messages on that group is just a waste of time. I'm leaving it.

OP was registered a day and then last active was on the next day. These telegram channels are being a place for most scammers. I've tried to make an account there and the other day, I was added on another group.
This how they work on it so even OP make a legitimate betting group, there will be those observers that will try to add each member to another group that they work or promote. Not worth it for me TBH.

^^
You still can join the telegram group shared in OP. It has around fifty members.
I don't know but I've never received any invitation to join another group while I've been in this group so you claims seems a bit strange to me! I've never received any kind of invitation links or any thing like that, so better leave it this way..
I think it's about time to let this thread die til OP decides to become more active.

This is why I seldom use Telegram because of things like this, there are so much scamming and attempt of scams happening here and there , from PMs to group luring?
yeah lets prevent our self from falling into those traps .
and also this OPs plan seems to be a cancelled one because there is no time that he comes back here to update because there are some who shows interest yet he is gone.

Now a days there are many gambling groups are actively works in telegram but all are not legit. Many people think that such type of groups are some times scam with gambler. Some groups are not actively share their thoughts. But I think you have taken a good initiative. If you are active with your group and removing regularly shared scam announcement and provide real info then I believe that you can conduct a good gambling group. You need to advertise the group about various gambling discussion sites. If you can take these initiatives i think you will make a good telegram live betting group.

I guess discord is one of the ideal too because there are a lot of new layers of security features for the safety of the users at the same time they can create different channels and voice channels for the communication of the users who would like to share their thoughts still at the end of the day it is good if the moderators are keeping active to make sure there are no accounts would attempt to scam other members who would like to learn and decide where do they bet and it is ideal if the invites are limited and filtered only.

Discord is definitely more informative, objective and valuable for all connoisseurs of the reliability of information. 

But the audience reach of Discord cannot be compared to Telegram in any way.  For example, I asked my friend - a young girl - what she knows about Discord.  So she doesn't know anything at all.  And she uses Telegram all the time.  And she also joined many groups there.  She somehow does not think at all about scammers and about reliable information.  She is already comfortable chatting with anything and with anyone.  And there are millions of such users.  I'm sure. 
So Discord will lose here.  I think so.

We already know that many scammers use telegrams as a promotional and to attract targets, so we need to be aware of this. If someone wants to build his business, maybe he can be active in one medium and start interacting with people so that it might be easier for him to attract people who have started to believe in his abilities to another place. People may need real info from people who want to attract them to that one place and this is what @OP should pay attention to, so if he wants to invite us to his channel on the telegram, he needs to be in this forum sharing what he knows. If this can be implemented by @OP, I think he can get many people to join his channel on telegram.

Hey, I'm not saying there are no scammers on Discord but they are more easily to curb stomped than on Telegram. For example, you can create a VIP lounge on your Discord, only those who have spent a good amount of time on that server and passed some requirements can be in. Think like this, Telegram is more like a closed box while for Discord, you have an open box that can be tune to your need. Heck, you can have an auto-ban bot that any cunts with a similar name to Admins, Mods will be instantly kicked out.

Yes, most common tricks from scammers like impersonal Admin or Mod, inject their own link,... can be easily sorted out by bot. This at least helps members from that server away from the typical harassment and common tricks on Telegram.

Because of scammers in telegram and facebook, I am not interested to use these Social Media platforms again. I really like bitcointalk where I am safe from Social scam even though it is not a social media, I like it. I am communicating with others freely.
Telegram is a platform of scammers. So even though you create a telegram page for betting and other casinos discussions, they will still come and scam people on the page. Because the moderation of the page will be very poor. Unless you will pay other moderators to clean the page for you always. That is if anyone try to scam another person, they (the moderators) will remove the person or block the person automatically. And also they will be no Ponzi scheme advertisement, once someone does that he will be blocked from the page. With that the page can be scam free to some extent.

Creating a telegram group where people come to discuss there games is not a bad idea, but the big question here is what measure have you put in place to filter this telegram group from the same people you are trying to run away from (Scammers), because scammers will always find a way to grab into any opportunity they see, but having a strategic plan and an active admin to flush them out immediately it gets noticed is what will maintain the growth of this channel.. But I will like to ask a very simple question. What game do you intend to discuss on the telegram group? Soccer, hockey, table tennis, horse game e.t.c  or is it a general group? Because I think making it specific will attract people interested in that game pick interest in it.

In my opinion, the creation of a group in Telegram will only lead to the fact that if you manage to promote the theme of the game and get hundreds or thousands of subscribers, then you, as the administrator of this group, will have to sit around the clock and respond to all the idiots in a row and without stopping.  Or for money to hire those managers who are responsible for all these idiots.  And 95% of all posts will definitely be pure spam.  Should it be done?  Of course, you can try, but I think you will quickly get disappointed and abandon this group, as millions of Telegram users and other instant messengers and social networks have already done.

Hows the progress of your project? is there any development ? I am interested but you seems to be not replying in Telegram ?

I even sent you a PM but you are not online for time now.

are you still trying to pursue this?  because if not then better to lock this thread as there will nothing to expect from you.

Maybe he didn't succeed on his plans on that channel that's why you never heard any updates coming from him and I also believe that there's no people got interested on his offer because people are so aware about this schemes or main  intention. Actually we don't need this kind of group because we can do our own research and betting is not kinda hard especially on sports betting where we can already get higher chances to win if we are familiar with the the sports we are betting.

In part it is good sometimes to have a telegram group that is totally transparent, but it is very difficult to keep it as clean as possible, the number of bots that besiege groups to promote certain platforms or certain projects is very large, of In fact, one of the things is that the bots are not only satisfied with spamming the group, but they look for the users who have it and make them the offers, which is quite annoying, however I think it could happen if the administrator is very active would have to have the help of many mods, because 24 hours a day there is always spam from bots and scammers.

same thoughts here mate, I think he realized according to the response here that there is nothing good about His plans so he needs to cut it off , and besides telegram group is not that trust worthy so best to stay away from those kind of groups.

and also familiarity in the sports that we will be betting is much better than taking what's OP is trying to bring here.

Although I’m here in the topic and advised not to create another group in Telegram, but if OP does this, then he will definitely face an invasion of haters and even outright scammers. This happens in any more or less large group. Like bees on honey, such loafers flock to new groups and a stream of accusations begins. And most importantly, it is quite difficult to defend against these idiots. They have hundreds of accounts, OP will just get tired of blocking them.

Those kind of people are quite common in crypto-currency groups and projects that have nothing to do with gambling itself. If OP's group becomes popular enough it will indeed suffer a wave of sabogate from scammers and possible competitors.
Fortunately, OP could use one of those verification Bots which are helpful to avoid massive spammers and even if OP's group becomes specially successful, they could hire some Telegram moderators to take care of spammers and scammers while he is busy.

It is not impossible to have a good Telegram group, but it may be not worth it, considering all the problems it may bring along the way.  :(

I don't think spammers and scammers are much of a problem and personally I wouldn't care too much about them - few good admins can get rid of them and keep the group clean.

I thought OP's idea was good and many users will be interested in it but after three months the tg group still have only 49 members and they are not very active (few posts a week!). So, it appears I was wrong and the community is not really interested n such projects.

Maybe @OP could try it in small groups like gathering people of no more than 10 people or less so he can handle questions or discussions about betting. I think it will be safer than him inviting a lot of people to his Telegram channel because it can also lure scammers to try to find new targets. We just have to be careful if we want to use Telegram because there are lots of scammers out there and we don't want to be scammed by them.

I think there is no  need in trying with that so small community because all he need to do is create a group that no one will be allowed to comment instead he will only post his Live update in the group so there will be no spamming and scamming to come.
that will also bring good ambiance to the group as there will no spams that irritating people like me.

If so, the members he had to invite were people he already knew so he wouldn't get into trouble later. If he invites random people, especially from social media, the people who join can still get scammed because each person who joins can still communicate privately and there will still be a possibility of being scammed.

Looks like he has to find a way so that people who join his group don't get scammed.

For what else and do you do that, instead of entering the Telegram channel that you say, it's better to stay there right on the gambling platform I'm playing than in the telegram because we know that these apps are infested by scammers to deceive the community in this industry. Then from what I see it looks like you just want to build a community on the channel you are telling at here in the forum.

That server is more ideal only if for the people who is willing to learn and of course there's a lot of process before taking into the channel in telegram it does not have too much a high layer of security so anyone can visit and join and of course we want to make sure that the community is safe there's a suggestion here that is discord is better than the telegram and i guess it is good too.

Not just only creating a telegram betting group for sports and casinos, the question here is how are you going to sustain it ? (the group), that is keeping it lively so it can be beneficial to all members of the group.
However, If you got knowledge to share on sports and casinos yourself, then in that way it will make a lot of sense and thus look more interesting to all people in the group ,rather than every body chatting in the group and this could lead people to spamming the group with a lot of irrelevant stuffs, that's the area where I do think it will be of better side to all

Building a community is a good initiative but scammers are enough to ruin that initiative. Telegram's environment has been polluted by scammers in such a way that no one wants to trust it. If I join a new group, I get two or three messages with various tempting offers, whose main purpose is to scam. It is therefore very difficult to maintain a community, which makes creating such groups risky considering various factors.

The scammers are at alert always and they are ready to hijack any group if the admin is not careful. The keep spamming the group and the group members privately, that is why it's difficult to build a genuine community on telegram.
I don't know why anytime I opened my telegram app, I have this feeling that I am vulnerable to scammers. Does this happen to others?

I would say since is telegram okay lets say this, what happened if OP used the forum it could be more authentic rather being on telegram though there are some users who may or might creates similar group for mischievous and dubious activities so it would be very hard for users to join the group.

Maybe discord is more recommended but when compared to the telegram, maybe telegram will be preferred because the application is lighter than other applications. In addition, people who use telegrams can hide their real identity because they don't need to use a personal cell phone number to join telegram. Maybe if @OP wants to make the group more private, he can use WhatsApp so he can avoid getting scammed by people looking for new targets.

It's his telegram group, I'm sure he is aware of a possible scam, so as long as OP will do the right investigation, he won't get scammed easily. It's a group sharing where people share their bets, no one will be scammed here as long as we don't fall for the tip of a fix game.

This is a serious matter. It is not possible for an admin to protect a Telegram group from scammers. Telegram has become very dangerous for inexperienced crypto users. And creating a community of gamblers is not a bad thing but keeping those gamblers safe is a very difficult task. There is a lot of discussion in this forum about gambling. So I think there is no need to create a separate Telegram group.

I see that the group is currently having 51 members. Although I haven't joined the telegram group yet as you say few posts a week may be the reason why it is not attracting more people.
For any group to get popular it needs some kind of regular activity and if that doesn't happen then the group just dies in a couple of months.
So I think OP needs to bring in more activity and interaction so that the group gets more people in it.

If you see the nature of telegram I believe that making telegram kind of betting group I think that it's not everybody that you like such because many people use telegram group to scam people and currently people is afraid of telegram because of eskom activities people have used telegram to run. We have another all different kinds of betting sites which Google can help to indicate instead of using telegram because on my own I cannot buy such idea of using telegram because of two things.

we can se that OP already gave up mate , because there is no response for long time now after posting this , and yeah after reading those responses  and obviously most are in negativity and less support form us?
maybe he  consider this a fail target and move on to other things that may be important for gamblers and Him to help people here in their gambling success.

Considering the exposure that the supposed community members will experience and possibility of hijack of the group by scammers or spammers, on a second thought, can Op instead created a self moderated thread in the forum and manage it? By this the activities going on in the group can be monitored  by the community members.

We will never know about it unless we join his telegram group and follow his updates. But people can still be targets of fraud because we know on telegram that people can communicate with each other privately, which triggers fraud. We'll see if there will be people who report to this forum and share their bad stories because of being scammed or whether the group will be safe from scams.

In conclusion, two types of scammers on telegram, someone adds your account in a fake group and contacts you using a fake account, both opportunities that trigger someone to be easily scammed if they don't investigate new groups/accounts in telegram chat.

I'm sure there will be many reports of telegram scams if they report on this forum but generally scammed using fake accounts, so it's hard to trace the real identity unless making the experience important to avoid the same mistakes in the future. Besides, I agree to choose the Discord option for higher security than telegram.

That would be optimal but taking into account the OP has not been active in his account since May then it is fair to deduce that they have lost any interest in creating a community like that, however I agree that if anyone was interested in doing something like this telegram is not really the right platform to do it, since the amount of scammers which are moving in that platform is so high that I have little doubts a great deal of people will fall into different scams and then the group will eventually disappear.

If Op has stopped posting since May, I would not be that surprised because I have seen countless times in the forum where forum members come up with ideas, seek for community suggestions and support, but in the end the project would be abandoned. It takes an extra will to conceive and accomplish.

Maybe the op got offended on most replies that he sees because a lot of users here seem to be against on what he was planning, resulting for him to not come back on this forum anymore. The op's group are already published here so if ever there are interested users, they can just check the group out by themselves.

Currently there's only 50 members on his group. On their rules it's said no selling is allowed but when I scroll up, I can see users there who are dealing something. That's clearly against the rules but why the admin or their bot didn't removed that? Hhmm. Maybe you are right that the op which is also the group admin, had easily lost his interest on it.

Well there's a possibility that he really got offended, but I don't think that it is the reason why he is not active here anymore after only a total of 3 posts on his account and in regards with this thread. What I think is that his objective is to share the Telegram group here and get more members. Although it is possible that some illegal transactions can be done through the group, I still not convince that he has this intention with him. Maybe he just want to have some good vibes with the betting community. Just for fun. But who knows, we will know better soon since it is shared here publicly.

There is actually no update on the telegram group, it's been weeks now that group was created for latest gambling update, of which I join till date, but I haven't seen any update which I might be leaving the group any time soon. I guess the forum is enough for any discussion that should be made, to avoid been scammed

So you did join that telegram group? How many members are there in that group  ???

By the way, OP is not active on this thread and was last active on May, 2022. And you have told that he is not giving any updates on the group either. Look like he might have quit the idea as things may not have gone in the way he might have anticipated. Also, the majority of the people here were not in the favor of any such telegram group.

A person who publishes in the forum should expect that when he offers in a group to talk about how to make money, he has to be prepared for all kinds of discussion of the service and should not be offended, because what he does not want to answer is because the best thing can be in something rare, that's what I think when a person wants to form a group, because it is very unpleasant to receive messages from others offering ways to invest in platforms, which I report them once and for all.

Telegram Live betting prediction platform is a good idea but you have to know the kind of persons that will be betting with you, because telegram and facebook are full with shits. How do you intend to know? What I mean is that, when you predict and win how do you pay the person or you are doing it for free? That is. Is is just fun purpose?

Looks like the group has been abandoned and just see spam in there and the OP last activity here was last May. Maybe he get tired already or give up in his venture to create this live betting prediction. I'm with the same thread that discuss something like this and the OP do it for free but in the end it will not come as free, mind me.

There are thousands of such groups but less than 0,1% costs something. This is the same as the others. It is possible that the OP wanted some more than he got but the only fact - this group is just waste of time. Reading such groups will kill your time without any profit.

The average new user will not search or investigate if the account is fake but they follow what is suggested to them. This is what makes many people who do not have any experience deceived by such a fraudulent model. In addition, the new people are tempted to make big profits so they will do what they say.

Well, I hope so and he already knows what to do. If he finally has created a live betting group on Telegram, hopefully, he can manage it and no people will be exposed to scams by irresponsible people. Hopefully, @OP has some friends who are also active in answering questions from members because it's hard to manage a group alone.

Did you join that group? If so, you should leave the group if there are no updates in that group. I agree that the forum is enough for discussing things and we can get a lot of good information.

However, I would like to add that I don't know why, people are very well aware of the risks of this type of group and even so they get involved to see what they get and the only thing they can get for sure is that they run the risk of being scammed, and this is something that they know a lot about, but still they will enter, so I wonder, is this a type of masochism? or is it that people want to be scammed, this happens the same with ponzi schemes, where they know that it is very difficult to enter and win, that only those who are at the top of the pyramid win, so they are human behaviors that are not understood, I know that an animal when it passes by one side and falls, it does not do it again, but the human being is not like that, he knows that if he passes where he fell, he will pass again.

Regardless of whether the Telegram group is alive or not, I think we should not take that as a big deal if there's no money involved there in the first place like a sort of subscription or offers in the future that OP will try to market to all users there.

We all have "common sense" to begin with and don't give that group so much attention.

People can just simply ignore it if they found it not interesting. After all, this place is already enough for any sports-related discussions. Maybe OP just wants an instant quick chat and responses from anyone without the need of posting.

Either way, we should just forget this thread and OP's Telegram group since it's abandoned now.

And this is not really that surprising, creating a new community of gamblers takes a lot of work and it is not something that happens overnight, it is because of this that if someone wants to do something like this then it is better to just use the forum, since we already have a lot of members which could be interested in joining a betting group to discuss their ideas and strategies instead of trying to move them to another platform which is full of scammers and which a great deal of the members avoid because of it.

There comes up a huge question, there is so much discussion on the Topic but the point is where is the Starter of the Subject and how far he progressed. I have sceen many users came up with idea but just ideas inspired by others doing. So Just Blowing Balloons with ideas never work.
Motivation, Consistent Will, Hard Work, Implementation and Forward Steps are more important. Sometimes You need to take a single step for successful idea. ( Betting Group Seems not at all good ).

Only two days active and not online anymore. And maybe, there's sort of success on this plan of his because there are 51 members currently on his telegram channel.
I don't know if all of those are genuine members and not just sort of dummy members for which he can do on his own. Is anyone on his group and sees the interaction of everyone?

One single group will get very messy. There are at least a dozen of live match at any moment. On the other hand, a discord server will be more apt. Create a channel for each sport and for meta discussions like - Off topic, rewards etc

Like this one https://discord.gg/8dnCBcdn - It's a discord group of r/sportsbook subreddit. Very active and I used to be active too till last year. Members are amiable(except for a few hormone fuelled teenagers).

I took a look to your telegram group and I must say it is more inactive than it should be, considering it has about 50 members (I am assuming those are real people). If you want a suggestion, I trink it would be a good idea to find some strategies to make people to engage in conversation/ discussion, maybe have some small events about personal predictions if possible you could even offer a small reward for the user who make a correct prediction; because the inactivity is something every newcomer will notice and could be a reason for them not to join.

Also, no scammer has interacted with me yet so far, so it is good. let us see how long it lasts.

Actually I don't accept telegram group prediction all transaction because I know quite well that I never have a number us we are first coming people it is one of the most or the top social Media platform how many people use to engage into fraud activity when you look at it very well they will see that in this particular group those people that is there knows each other so they are looking for external people from different places that will be victim to be scam. If you really I need an accurate prediction of cryptocurrency or any gambling predictions such as casino i will make inquire.

Actually, that was just an example I offered OP for improving the quality of his betting group, since I joined out of curiosity and realized there is a lack of activity, that's all.

I assume there must be other ways for him to increase the interaction of his lil betting group and I thought what creating small events as that I described, could help him.

Thats obvious and this is the same thing i'm trying to explain, many users came and create threads that is their forum right as well but what to mean of that if they cant even hold to it make it useful the only thing i'm trying to say making bluff posts and bla bla bla. 

The OP is no more active on this forum, hence all the good pieces of advice by you and everyone else mean nothing to him. However, they may be other people who might be thinking of running such groups in the future and they got a good lot of information on how to go about it.

If anyone wants that people join their betting group, they need that their group is worthy of joining, and for that, they need to provide free bet information here on the forum as an advertisement.

The group needs to be active. This is possible only through active conversation and discussion. Initially OP can search and share some articles through which participants will learn about different airdrops and other giveaway if he isn't able to conduct some events on prediction and give rewards. Then onwards depending on the valuable information shared the participants will increase. For now we've got more such groups, so people will look for something unique before joining.

It all depends on the numbers of telegram users he has and the kind of sports he is into to keep the group more active. If he only concentrate on football only, he might have few interested users but if he forcast on so many sports and do have a positive results then more users will join the Telegram group because people will like to invite there friends to benefit also from the game predictions.

 To predict football matches or other bets is not that easy and op will need to people too that can bring there predictions to the group so everybody can share there own opinions.

Once there was a telegram group that I joined. It has lots of members but this is useless since the group is still quiet and most members are inactive. There is also one group with lots of members but only those who actively talks are bots. Maybe they put that on purpose or to make the group active but it's kinda annoying since the flow of their convo is kinda obvious uninteresting.

I better be in a group with less members but the talks are genuine. Op didn't specify a game but all forms are allowed as long as it's still gambling. That should make this group big and more talkative but first op needs to do some kind of a lure like what @rmoero121 suggested.

^ Because Telegram is easy to manipulate and it is easy also to create a bunch of dummies accounts so that your Telegram groups look interesting.
I don't trust the Telegram group because there are a lot of fraudulent activities that possible you will most likely become a victim of those scammers, though I did not say OP belongs to them just awareness. Instead, why not just create your own website, it seems to look trusted if you have a live betting site which everyone could trust.

my advice, it's better to use discord than telegram, too many scammers are telegramed at this time, are you ready; if your group is bombarded by scammers,
a pretty good gambling community, my advice is to be even more selective in spreading your tele link so that not many fraudsters enter your group

I assume it is because unlike Telegram, Discord asks you to set up a payment method in order to buy Nitro subscription which may attract more scammers to steal accounts. Still, one can't ignore the amount of scammers that roam around Telegram and specially crypto related groups.

That might be one of the reason. But keep in mind that channel and group owners can also have some profits. So if ever, hackers can also be attracted to that and possibly be able to steal lots of money. Telegram users should still be cautious even though this app has a good encryption. Hackers will be able to find your vulnerability if it is existing.

I would like to add these telegram groups' memberships are manipulated if you see telegram groups with huge numbers, don't think that the group is very popular and people are really joining the group, the fact is there are services that offer to grow your memberships for a fee they can add hundreds or thousands of new members but if you check the activity only a few people are posting and some of them are just bots, this kind of group is manipulated and they are likely to scam you.

I don't think that there is much need of such groups. Because now if you search online, there are lots of site where different arguments are presented and give their predictions. You can take the best analysis as you wish. Sp there is no telegram bots which are often cheated. So for the sake of security I think it is better to exclude them.

Of course, if a telegram group is opened with a telegram group batting site, I don't think that group will be in a very good position.But there people can interact but you will not have any personal profit as such and you can make betting system but not profit.Although you do the job with a lot of hope, I don't think you will be successful.People now enjoy betting and casino games through various apps and platforms.But you can open batting telegram group for some discussion here.

Of course I also think there is no need for all these groups. Because all these groups of people will not evaluate. Today there are thousands of Telegram groups that people don't pay attention to.But I don't see any justification in that you can do as you wish. Personal Sarette may be opened for your purpose of acquaintance.

Using discord might be better but he must still be able to control his channel from scammers because we know that scammers are always trying to find new targets.
Telegram may now be better known as a place for scammers to find these new targets, so using any media means you have to be more careful.
We don't want to see people who have joined the channel we create getting scammed so we should try to select the people we invite.
Thus, only people we know can invite us to discuss gambling, especially sharing information about sports betting.

not only to be active but also to be consistent and reliable mate because remember that gamblers are whom trusting him and it is involving money.
if he cant even become active here then what more in his group.

not unless he will return and offers this back? then maybe I will consider checking the group but now? i doubt his intention here.

I am not sure of the utility of any telegram group that does not have at least 1000 members. In most groups the percent of active users (and this is not just for telegram, but for many other groups, even not just those over the internet), is 5% on average. Sometimes, for topics that are very hot and generate involvement with rewards and community management activities it can get higher, but you have to account for this when sizing.

Besides we are in a forum with a whole subforum entirely dedicated to gambling and which is very active, why bother to try to move people from a platform they are already using to another one? Anyone interested in creating a group like this could start a thread about it and many people will be interested in it as long as the tips and the information which was shared in that thread was relevant, so it is a waste of time to try to create a group like that.

Maybe OP wants a real-time discussion and exchange of chats rather than waiting for a reply in a thread that's why it's more convenient for that user to communicate with the use of a messaging application like Telegram. Just checking OP's account status, the user is inactive and has been offline since just a day this thread was created. Maybe OP doesn't really use to interact with the forum thru posting or whatever.

I will disregard that OP might just want to increase the number of users on that group but it's clear on his post that there's no intention of forcing anyone to join the group. OP just asking for some advice too. Just chillax and don't take that as a big deal.

And more importantly, we should just forget this thread now.

Due to all this, I am curious to know what happened to this group? did it get done? They managed to meet the objectives, no subscriptions or something that could come close to users being in danger? It is necessary to know that the things that are done outside the forum are difficult to control, but nevertheless, I do not stop thinking about making it known that those who are in groups always have to take special care, not in this one, but in all groups of tg, scammers are everywhere and operate from anywhere in the world and one of the things they do is through an army of bots that often make you believe that they are actually human.

From my observations, it clearly shows that OP's aim on this forum was only to refer us to a so called Telegram group, where in the future could promote an affiliate link or sell fake fixed matches, because looking at the profile, it shows that since the day this thread was made, he has never come online again to either read opinions or cared about replying to comments. Maybe he thought he could drop link here and in just one day get 1000 followers, but sorry to say that's not how things work here.
Here is his profile review, showing date account was created 18th May 2022, Thread posted same date and last seen 19th May 2022 (the next day). Which clearly shows that he/she only came here to get telegram followers
https://i.ibb.co/J7LFL01/Screenshot-20220812-082602.jpg (https://ibb.co/KqZzZRP)

It doesn`t matter telegram or discord - the scammers you all opportunities to cheat. I remember that in 2017 it was trendy to use discord but the result was the same - scammers were in discord too.
The main problem is to be interesting to users. It means that you have to give new and high quality content. In this situation - a big quantity of predicts and it mustn`t be only copy paste from other groups.

I agree with your conclusions. It would be nice if the moderators closed this topic.
If someone wants to discuss live betting, then he can do it on the forum - if potential participants in the discussion have time and interest, they will answer on the forum, telegram are not needed here. And in general, I don’t know who is interested in the opinion (even a specialist) of any person in a live game - everyone has their own strategy, their own bankroll, so advice that will be useful for one better will be harmful for another.

The Telegrram group is up. However it doesn't have have that much members. If I remember it correctly, the last time I visited the group (not joined), the number of its member is only at a single digit. So I don't think the OP has achieved his goal with these number of people joined to the group.

This same reason will be the reason why many people including myself will run away from your group. Instagram has been seen as an avenue where scammers patrol to and fro, hence people avoid it at all costs. So tell me how you intend to make your own different from the others.

At first you can really build an organic group using telegram, but you should know that exploitative people or scammers who don't care about their victims often use Telegram apps as well. There is a lot to be seen in those apps that when they see a group that is developing a good community and a lot of people are trusting, what these scammers will do is create an account and pretend that they are part of the team that you have created. to prey on them.

My opinion from the point of view of the telegram groups this week I started in one and it is a quite exhausting experience, only 10 people if they talk about what the group is about, but the rest of the people only dedicate themselves to sending many pm and that is somewhat annoying, also that there are many men who see a woman's photo and begin to fall in love, and that is annoying, I had to go out and block, report many, a group must take good care of all that.

A strange thing is the telegram channel https://t.me/sportsliveforum it was created on May 18, according to the statement of the OP, he created it in order to exchange predictions for bets, but the last prediction was already on May 25, or the creator lost interest in the question of predictions.on bets.

The fact is that we cannot concluded on his main objective to creating this thread but despite all that has been said, have we even take time to know wether he was ban which resulted to his inactive on the forum, he may also have some personal challenges that resulted to his absence for a while but either of the ways i think this thread will continue to be a good reference for an answer in future related topics or questions from new members or any other user interested in areas related.

People now avoid anything unfamiliar to keep themselves safe from scammers. Telegram is full of scammers now so its not safe to join any group. As a result the op has not yet received the expected member. As gamblers are getting smarter now, it will be very difficult to make such a group successful in the current situation. I visited this group a long time ago, so it can be assumed that many people visited this group but did not join.

The group linked in the OP post is dead. The last message is dated 22th of July, and this is useless shitpost. The last at least useful message was a month ago (15th of July).

So we can close discussion here, because the main topic of it as i showed above is dead for now.  :-\

I share what you say, if OP shares some things like getting rewards either with Airdrops or projects that can help the entire community that is within the group, it would start to do well, although currently airdrops, as well as faucets are no longer profitable, recently I saw an Airdrop that gave like 1 dollar but not for everyone, they had to do a very large series of tasks to choose to see if they were winners of the raffle and that is something very annoying, because many of us here have a concept that in each Airdrop the reward must be something substantial for the amount of work that was done.

Truly, there have been several cases of abuses on the telegram channels because it gives room to anyone having access to sending you unsolicited adverts and trash that could be annoying atimes except you went further in changing some privacy features from the settings, there needs to be more carefulness about social media platforms that are not to do harm on users but the scammers had made it all difficult to enjoy the sweetness in their tastes.

Ahahaha.
It sounds like "You should pay us to stay in your group". Doesn't sound good, especially for admin.
The win-win strategy is to share some interesting insights about live betting, bu here we have a typical problem when people do not want to share some valuable information with nonames in a group.

There are so many scammers on Telegram that it is very difficult to counter them. Which makes it difficult for any good initiative to succeed because of them. Because not all members are aware of Telegram's privacy settings, they cannot avoid these scammers even if they want to. Telegram groups are used by scammers to collect information from crypto users and send messages containing various scam offers.

And if something like that happens, there will be a bunch of bots that will live by there.

Well, just as you've said on your other post, there's really nothing interesting on this thread and group anymore and if out of nowhere OP comes by and tells what he thinks, I think he'll just talk about hyping the group that didn't achieved what he tried to reach.

There are enough discussions about sharing bets on the gambling discussion for different sports that one may like to read and join.

Well let's see, the objective by op was fulfilled or not? I have many groups that are from crypto and they are annoying, many writing privately, I have reported all of them to me, they are useless, I do not like what they offer, if this group is dedicated to that or they allow people like this to enter, it is obvious that it will not work now nothing everyone sticks to talking about many things but not what it is.

There is no update from the OP and there will be no updates as OP is not active anymore. Also I didn't heard from anyone if the group is doing anything constructive or valuable.  I think it's time that mod lock this thread and prevent further spamming.
There is nothing left to discuss more here.

It is difficult to obtain the objectives that you want to achieve, however you achieve something like that, it could be that a very select group is formed and with great quality, I say that because the members of the forum who share their experiences in trading are very good, in fact if we let's go to the Wall Observer thread there are a lot of very intelligent guys who could contribute in most of them, if they get people of that level the group would be of importance 1A, we don't know if OP has gone there to try to find members of that style, although I doubt they want to get involved because here one of the things they take care of like gold is privacy and anonymity.


There are no updates, it is best that OP closes the thread, so it is very difficult to do something, those who are in the group do not report and if they report there is no one who is reliable to enter a group, I agree that they should close it.

I joined the group before but left it few minutes later and I've noticed that few members from this forum did the same too. What made me leave is that I didn't see anything interesting there and I got the impression that the group was created for the sole purpose of promoting the admins bk8 affiliate link.
I agree with the comments above, it's about time to stop bumping this thread and let it die.

Well, it sounds like that, doesn't it? but in reality that is not the twist that I want to give it, I said it was with the intention that they do something different, something that is not so equal to the other groups, it is something that marks the difference, and that is that the bitcointalk community does not it is something easy, many have great knowledge and it is not easy to sometimes attract people who handle so much good information, so it is necessary to do something that goes beyond the ordinary, that is why I said that Airdrops, bounty, that in In reality, people look for money anyway, work and get paid, it is something normal, something that is currently being sought with more intensity.

- I'm just wondering why you need to create a telegram channel just to bet live like you say, dude. As such, there are legitimate gambling platforms that are a good entry point for gamblers such as stakes, duelbits, Roobet, owl, and others here in cryptocurrency.

I think no one will cut or bite what you want to happen. Besides that, when I also looked at the member in the channel you created, there are not 100 members, which shows that most of the crypto gamblers here do not support what you want to happen.

It will come out in the end that you are the bad one because what will come out to others is that you have a different hidden agenda. I'm just telling you this dude.

I really didn't do it, and with what I've seen what they do, it's a waste of time, try it, if a telegram group is good, first people will bring their good impressions to the threads, and I could make a super group, but super group and the sense of information that can be shared and there is an exchange of knowledge, but unfortunately it is not like that, if the group wanted to do it to obtain other benefits, it is only more logical, and I think it is as you say, it is not worth it, and I think thread d should be blocked, but the only thing is that I'm sure OP won't block it, it's better to leave the thread without writing more.