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Title: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Len Saldua on May 20, 2022, 08:03:44 PM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: blockman on May 20, 2022, 08:25:08 PM
That has happened but it won't take that long, all of them will be stomped by bitcoin and will also be pulled together with the bear market. Bitcoin hitting $15k is unlikely, although there's its volatility but I don't think that it will be that low again.
But if you're waiting for that price before buying then I'd say good luck to you. That price could be reached just because of any possibility but based on different all time lows, I don't really think it will.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Len Saldua on May 20, 2022, 08:36:33 PM
The HEX founder, Richard Heart thinks it could go as low as 12K. He claims he's made 2 successful predictions before. Not that I want to believe him, but his thesis basically is.. we always pull back 80 to 85% from the peak... which was 69K. This makes sense looking at past cycles, and let's face it, in the current economic climate... do you see Bitcoin bouncing back to 100K anytime soon ? But I could definitely see it going lower... and not only for a month or two... maybe for the next 12 to 18 months. It doesn't look like it could happen, until you realize you're already there... and it's too late to get out.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: bitbollo on May 20, 2022, 08:42:57 PM
it may happen that certain altcoins at a particular moment of their development are able to perform better than bitcoin even in a bear market. however it is a rare event, and very often it happens with more or less unknown coins ... or with low capitalization ...

regarding the prediction that bitcoin will hit further lows ... anything can happen and personally it doesn't surprise me at all.
I see it as another opportunity to buy more. "discounted price".

I would worry about other events (more technical) than the simple monetary value, since my interest in this technology is not given by its economic value!


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: crzy on May 20, 2022, 09:06:38 PM
Some good altcoins can pump during the bear market but if you see Altcoins drop like 90% on its price better not to buy because its too risky and you can’t know if that altcoin will rise again and survive that drop. Bitcoin may not hit the price of below $15k again, that could be a big crash again but for sure whales will catch the price at $20k. If you really want to become more profitable, you will buy during the bear trend but make sure that you will only buy good projects that keeps on growing even if we are on a bear market.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on May 20, 2022, 09:07:48 PM
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Bitcoin was like down at those years you mentioned. It was like everyone was panicking already since the corrections were so low that some people thought that it is now dead. I cannot say the same for the altcoins since they don't all just go the same way. Some do survive, but most alts that some called shitcoins aren't just barely enough even to pump back even if Bitcoin was recovering already.
This is why I do not invest that much in altcoins back in the days and now I am full into Bitcoin.. maybe for now. It's my money anyway.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: teosanru on May 20, 2022, 09:08:29 PM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go
Yes they will, the whales have to make money out off somewhere atleast they will definitely pump some coins to earn quick money. But unlike the bull market these will be pretty hard to predict and enter into, in bull market no matter in which coin you put the money in eventually all of them are going to explode sooner or later however the same isn't true in bearish market so coin selection becomes highly critical.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Xal0lex on May 20, 2022, 09:27:21 PM
They can, only briefly, and not all altcoins. It usually happens when investors pour liquidity into some altcoins, there is a spike, sometimes even reaching a new ATH, and then there is the same rapid drop in price, following the fall of bitcoin. So don't expect that while bitcoin falls hard, the altcoin market will live and thrive. No, it will fall even harder, overall, but some altcoins may rise briefly.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: goaldigger on May 20, 2022, 09:39:08 PM
Some can pump and some can still reach their new ATH, this will always depend on how they work on their technology, good updates and with a good community, the result can be good for them even if the whole cryptomarket is on a bear trend. Good project usually announce their updates during the bear market in order for them to survive the downtrend and if you are lucky enough to hear those good updates, better to buy right away because for sure the next trend will be a big one. There’s a lot of good opportunities during the bear market, grab those opportunities and take it easy, the market will recover soon.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: bitkanu on May 20, 2022, 10:05:13 PM
I've seen some shitcoins in the past bear market acts as if they are detached from the market and having bullish run despite the current market circumstance is heavily bearish.
I guess this kind of coin that could gain price increase amidst the bearish market, and there are some altcoins that are really good that they could gain some bullrun definitely the same case like STEPN mainly because it was considered good that despite the market in bearish they still gain quite good amount of bullrun, definitely very rare case tbh.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Yogee on May 20, 2022, 10:06:49 PM
The general trend is altcoins fall when bitcoin falls but there are always exceptions. It already happened before so it can happen again. If you see an altcoin you like that's down by 90% or more then you may as well start accumulating. We are probably one pr two years away from another run. Just try to avoid Luna until voting is over or after the case against them is over.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: lobo13hf on May 20, 2022, 11:15:40 PM
Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ?
Yeah and why not? as long as there was a huge update and it can against the major trend that happened with the market. I just remind you if you can also take a look at the gainers and loosers on CMC. that proves that if there are still tokens that ourperformed the altcoins.

So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
The point must be huge update or news and pump and dump token. Sometime the crap tokens can outperform the market caused by it's being pumped by the whales.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Rengga Jati on May 20, 2022, 11:25:49 PM
If the hype is very high, if the community and promotion are highly done and conducted, moreover creating FOMO, it maybe probably be. But without the hype, it will be very difficult.
And in this case, if a coin is pumping during the bearish market, commonly it will not last a long time, it will be only during the hype and will dump directly. So, be careful everytime facing with this kind of projects or altcoins.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Uang_kartal on May 20, 2022, 11:47:32 PM
I've seen not only bitcoin weakening, at that time some coins with good fundamentals also declined but there were some that continued to rise such as sand, solana, etc. maybe from volume or marketing strategies that were quite effective and self-burning, especially from hodlers who faithfully provided trading positing . if I had to choose I would prefer bitcoin over altcoins even though the multiples and capital I have can be very significant. when you ask this maybe you are researching the altcoin you choose? keep Dy0r


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Oceat on May 20, 2022, 11:58:04 PM
It's rare to happen but most of the time they were just a pump and dump strategy so I don't recommend it during bearish time. But if you a good strategy to outsmart those who made it pump then you can dump right after they dump it again but most of the time it's just a pump and dump strategy to them.

Sometimes hyping some coins to make it pump even more but we all know what's behind with that strategy. It takes some right timing and knowledge to make some profit when that happens and I would say they were lucky. :D


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Dr.Osh on May 21, 2022, 12:21:24 AM
the potential for coin pumps in a bear market remains, even when the dump occurred in 2018, there were still a few altcoins hitting their ATH after that. however, it all depends on the coins you have. there are some altcoins that rose only for recovery because they were affected by a sudden decline, but there were also those that did not recover, even continued to decline during a bear market. it's just that the percentage of coins that will pump during a bear market is very small. So, when you want to re-enter, make sure that you have coins that are popular, and have much needed benefits then and in the future.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: asriloni on May 21, 2022, 03:00:57 AM
I will give you some links that will answer your question with the fact and it's not only an opinion. https://coinmarketcap.com/gainers-losers/

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/trending
It's always possible for some altcoins to overperforming the market trend through some big updates, rumour, news and many more. These variable are also helping so many shit scam tokens in the market to be pumped to the moon. I would not be surprised to see that if something big will be triggering the pump for these kinds of altcoins. Even when people were calling these tokens as garbage tokens


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: bestcoins1 on May 21, 2022, 05:20:31 AM
I've seen not only bitcoin weakening, at that time some coins with good fundamentals also declined but there were some that continued to rise such as sand, solana, etc. maybe from volume or marketing strategies that were quite effective and self-burning, especially from hodlers who faithfully provided trading positing . if I had to choose I would prefer bitcoin over altcoins even though the multiples and capital I have can be very significant. when you ask this maybe you are researching the altcoin you choose? keep Dy0r
It's not wrong if someone wants to research altcoins because basically when someone is researching altcoins, he must have liked Bitcoin for various reasons and facts that have been seen in Bitcoin. So as long as he wants to research it better and then choose it as a long-term investment, then that is a very good job because considering that research also takes a lot of time.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: GatotKaca on May 21, 2022, 05:29:09 AM
the potential for coin pumps in a bear market remains, even when the dump occurred in 2018, there were still a few altcoins hitting their ATH after that. however, it all depends on the coins you have. there are some altcoins that rose only for recovery because they were affected by a sudden decline, but there were also those that did not recover, even continued to decline during a bear market. it's just that the percentage of coins that will pump during a bear market is very small. So, when you want to re-enter, make sure that you have coins that are popular, and have much needed benefits then and in the future.
Usually, an altcoin pump situation when a bear market is running occurs because of Investors who enter the altcoin. it could be due to risky updates that developers dared to do. it could also be due to manipulation by the project team itself.
but most of the pumping that happens to altcoins in a bear market won't last long. if bitcoin does not immediately make a steady movement in the market. it will make the altcoins that do the pump crash immediately.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: JeffBrad12 on May 21, 2022, 05:36:33 AM
The trend is giving impact to the how big the pump that can be done by any altcoins in the market but as long as the hype was big enough and this will ignore the bearish trend in the market. Some tokens like the football tokens have been pumping so hard and it's only ignoring the current decrease that happened in the crypto. Im sure that if you are also aware about this too. A token can become bullish when it was getting the hype. Hype was the key for the token to leave from the bearish trend to be pumped so hard.
Football token was a real thing that has proven if that's real. Don;t you see some football tokens pumped so hard during the bearish market?


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Ziskinberg on May 21, 2022, 11:27:15 AM
If someone has been too influential in the market, this seems possible.
I'd remember how Elon Musk does with Dogecoin, it wasn't during the bear season but it can be the same scenario, HYPES. However, this is not very usual to see during the bear season, people are too careful when buying projects,s and many were preferred to just hold and buy known coins like Bitcoin and ETH.

Like other says, it will just pump for a very short period of time and is often not noticed by the others.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Dessy88 on May 21, 2022, 11:44:59 AM
Patient investors are waiting for the bear market to sell their tokens. My guess is that the bear market will get a lot of sellers and then there will be very few buyers but the account of big investors is different. myself i am waiting for the next bear market because I have bought some number of tokens which I will sell in bear narket.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Wildwest on May 21, 2022, 12:10:20 PM
This has happened in the past year and at that time the value of bitcoin was falling and there were some altcoins that remained and also experienced an increase but the increase that occurred did not last long, because the situation at that time was very hot but some investors could indeed benefit because their predictions at that time were right and very brave to take action to hold the altcoin, When a bear market occurs, there are only a few opportunities that we can get.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: uelque on May 21, 2022, 12:14:39 PM
Just like most of them said, It won't last long. I remember a friend of mine was investing and trading altcoins that pumps back 2018 during bear market. As far as I can remember he gain some good profit back then because he's always buying stuff. Lol. But I believe all of them dip hard after and the pump did not even last for a week. So be very smart and careful if ever you want to take advantage of few altcoins that are currently pumping now, it is just temporary. As long as we are in a bear market, majority would follow.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: davincicode666 on May 21, 2022, 01:05:25 PM
Patient investors are waiting for the bear market to sell their tokens. My guess is that the bear market will get a lot of sellers and then there will be very few buyers but the account of big investors is different. myself i am waiting for the next bear market because I have bought some number of tokens which I will sell in bear narket.
Actually now the market conditions are still in the bear category so you can still make some purchases on the coins or tokens that you like at this time as long as the price is still in a declining position because if you wait for the next bear market it might take a little longer for you to wait for it to arrive.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: danherbias07 on May 21, 2022, 01:30:59 PM
Careful finding those types of coins, could be a trap.
This is not the era anymore where Bitcoin dumps, and altcoin pumps. Why? How? Stablecoins. Before, investors would sell their Bitcoin in exchange for an altcoin but now, they can safely put it in a stable coin and wait for a big dump and then buy back. Easy way to increase the amount of Bitcoin in your wallet.
But there might be some who will survive, just do your research before buying. Don't let the green light fool you.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: TheUltraElite on May 21, 2022, 02:17:15 PM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):
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I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go
I have been through the market from 2016, and personally I have felt that bitcoin at low price is always better than any altcoin at any price. There is no guarantee that bitcoin will not fall but its community support and the demand to buy bitcoin is huge as soon as its price drops, hence it will not drop too easily. But for altcoins, the community hands are often weak and they tend to topple at every other happening event.

The decision to buy is simple from the last few years chart. Just that new investors often tend to cheap out and go for altcoin instead of fractional bitcoin amounts. As long as one remembers that every satoshi matters, this will not be the case.

Buying bitcoin is always the better option as shown historically.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Tony116 on May 21, 2022, 02:46:04 PM
It happens but not much, it depends on the development roadmap of the project. Assume the bear market will continue and last until 2024 and according to Vitalik Buterin's announcement, the upgrade to ETH2.0 will take place in August of this year. If all goes well and we are still in the bear season then I believe ETH price increase is normal, even will be waxing strong as it is an important milestone marking the development of a potential coin.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Wiwo on May 21, 2022, 03:41:04 PM
Yes, I have seen some altcoin steadily increasing in price even in this bear market, I have some tokens in my portfolio that have kept rising steadily since the start of the bear market, and this to mend has not stopped growing so we have some exceptional coins that can rise to a significant level even in the worst bear market such as what we are seeing now.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: evilgreed on May 21, 2022, 04:31:48 PM
               Pumps do happen sometimes to altcoins on bearish times but not that often and it barely even lasts long. I personally don't bank on such altcoin pumps on bearish times. Chasing pumps is already too tedious and draining on a bullish market. Just imagine how hard it would be on bearish times. I'd rather use my extra funds for buying good coins that I like or DCA on the ones I already have. Not only does this make my crypto life easier, it also saves me from all the stress and potential losses. Still though, if you have the time to keep track with the news and other updates about the pumping coin you wanna chase and are pretty confident with your capabilities, then it's worth the shot.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: tvplus006 on May 21, 2022, 05:59:45 PM
Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ?..

If the team has prepared a decent update, then such news will necessarily entail an increase in the price of the coin. The same applies to news about partnerships with large companies, as well as the listing of coins on major cryptocurrency exchanges, which usually entail a short-term pump.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Silberman on May 21, 2022, 09:43:15 PM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go
There are some altcoins that can move positively during a bear market but they are a minority and it is very difficult for them to sustain that positive movement on their own, because even if the coin was any good people are afraid about what it could happen next and as such this will diminish substantially the amount of people that could be interested in such coin, however I will also suggest that you are open to adapt and change your strategy as I do not think we are ever going to see bitcoin touching the 15k level again


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Johnyz on May 21, 2022, 09:48:33 PM
Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ?..

If the team has prepared a decent update, then such news will necessarily entail an increase in the price of the coin. The same applies to news about partnerships with large companies, as well as the listing of coins on major cryptocurrency exchanges, which usually entail a short-term pump.
Good updates can pump the price but since its bear market, this is the usual scenario they dump again after the hype of that update but that’s ok since they have the good updates, in long term it can be a good one for the project itself. Some coins/tokens can still pump in bear even if there’s no update, whales are not just sitting behind since they are also looking for a potential project to pump, if you are lucky to spot good coins/tokens in bear better to buy some.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: nurilham on May 21, 2022, 10:30:53 PM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ?
The chance is very small.
So far, I didn't find this that is pumped during the bear market moreover can survive at the top price. Except that the pump is influenced by the FOMO. So, it will be probably. However, if this is so, it means that you must be careful in this project because commonly the pump will be only a few moments. The least is that the price will dump and keep dumping until becoming shitcoin. Yes, that is the common fact happened to some new projects during the bearish market era.

Patient investors are waiting for the bear market to sell their tokens.
Honestly, I can't think about this, how can patient investors be waiting for the bear market to sell? COmmonly, in a bear market, they will hold the coins and wait for the bull market to sell right? because bull market will be commonly identical with pump price, right?


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: 24Kt on May 21, 2022, 10:44:40 PM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ?
The chance is very small.
So far, I didn't find this that is pumped during the bear market moreover can survive at the top price. Except that the pump is influenced by the FOMO. So, it will be probably. However, if this is so, it means that you must be careful in this project because commonly the pump will be only a few moments. The least is that the price will dump and keep dumping until becoming shitcoin. Yes, that is the common fact happened to some new projects during the bearish market era.

Patient investors are waiting for the bear market to sell their tokens.
Honestly, I can't think about this, how can patient investors be waiting for the bear market to sell? COmmonly, in a bear market, they will hold the coins and wait for the bull market to sell right? because bull market will be commonly identical with pump price, right?

Once this kind of coin is pumped, expect that it will go downhill fast with no recovery on the horizon. Also, you can see the trading volume of the coin being pumped. Because if it is only small, it means, a group or the team is manipulating it in the market to deceive some traders that they are having high percentage of change in the market. But if you look at the volume, it is only small. So you should not be tempted of investing on that type of coin. Because you will find our real quick that they are for short term gains.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: RussiaUkraineTranslation on May 21, 2022, 10:52:29 PM
Chainlink was the only token in my portfolio that was bear market resistant. I hope it will do it again.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Yamifoud on May 21, 2022, 11:00:17 PM
Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ?..

If the team has prepared a decent update, then such news will necessarily entail an increase in the price of the coin. The same applies to news about partnerships with large companies, as well as the listing of coins on major cryptocurrency exchanges, which usually entail a short-term pump.
Just like it happen to Shiba Inu, prices went up as they got listed in Binance exchanges. It was such a pumping factor that the majority of the projects that exists were missing. It could be practical to invest in them, yet we can just ignore any possible scams that exist as it already happen. Binance and many other (reputable exchanges ) delist tokens/coins due to incapability and devaluation.
Considering the current situation, only a slim chance that altcoins will pump with their own, many could be in the influence of manipulation.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: tvplus006 on May 22, 2022, 06:28:22 AM
...Binance and many other (reputable exchanges ) delist tokens/coins due to incapability and devaluation.

I used to think so too, but after dumping Luna and delisting this coin on Binance and other exchanges, I see that the situation is generally incomprehensible. The coin, which has lost 99.9% in price, is again traded on Binance after delisting, contrary to the rules of the cryptocurrency exchange. This indicates that the rules are applied selectively.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: hashrateproducts on May 22, 2022, 06:35:00 AM
Luna is a failed projects, it's also consider as a shitcoin and a memecoin recently in the market. The value deflated, leaving many investors to be stranded and losses Hugh funds in their wallets. The people it affects the most was the long term holders of Luna, they bought it when it was $100 or above, and when the bear market came, Luna wasn't up to a dollar. Tragedy and liquidation hits the investors and most of them couldn't recover from their big loss. Perhaps this is also applicable to alt coins, although some still pump during the bear market, this is very possible because not all coins will fall during the bear market and not all alt coins will also pump during the Bull market, that's just the basis of Crypto.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Silberman on May 25, 2022, 09:08:14 PM
...Binance and many other (reputable exchanges ) delist tokens/coins due to incapability and devaluation.

I used to think so too, but after dumping Luna and delisting this coin on Binance and other exchanges, I see that the situation is generally incomprehensible. The coin, which has lost 99.9% in price, is again traded on Binance after delisting, contrary to the rules of the cryptocurrency exchange. This indicates that the rules are applied selectively.
If I remember correctly the binance exchange has a big position on Luna, if I am indeed correct then at least to me it is obvious that what they are pursuing is for the coin to recover and then begin to exit their position slowly so they can regain some of the money they lost, and then after some time has passed they may once again delist the coin and let someone else become the bag holder while they get some money out of the disaster formerly known as Terra Luna.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: lalabotax on May 25, 2022, 09:46:38 PM
So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go
Maybe it was. but for this bearish era, I don't think that this will work. Moreover many more people have been smart enough to facing FOMO. Although there may be newcomers in the crypto and may be the target of that FOMO. I am not sure that the impact will be that high. That is why making altcoin pump during this bearish market is likely very hard to realize. Moreover, this bearish era is fasetr coming and many people lose their huge money because of this immmediate drops.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: lionheart78 on May 25, 2022, 10:03:08 PM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?

It is possible for an altcoin to pump even though the rest of the altcoin is in a bear market.  There are several factors why cryptocurrency increases its price value.  Often time those that have small market cap tokens can easily get manipulated.  We have witnessed this stuff several times, creating hype around the project boasting the economic value of the token.  Aside from that, there are some Altcoin that is not dependent on the Bitcoin price.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: bitkanu on May 25, 2022, 11:33:10 PM
Just like most of them said, It won't last long. I remember a friend of mine was investing and trading altcoins that pumps back 2018 during bear market. As far as I can remember he gain some good profit back then because he's always buying stuff. Lol. But I believe all of them dip hard after and the pump did not even last for a week. So be very smart and careful if ever you want to take advantage of few altcoins that are currently pumping now, it is just temporary. As long as we are in a bear market, majority would follow.

if a coin is rising so hard during bearish market with no reason at all, then it's safe to say that it was due to the fact that the market of that coin might be manipulated so hard.
most of them are definitely some low market cap shitcoins that could get manipulated into oblivion, and the after math, we definitely know that even the ones that manipulated the market doing so because of greed.
definitely such shitcoins will not gonna hold for long for the simple fact that the ones that manipulated the market eventually gonna cash out.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Ahli38 on May 26, 2022, 01:41:44 AM
for altcoins, of course, the possibility to pump even though the market is bearish is always there. like new projects. but it usually won't last long. and will come back down very drastically (dump). so your decision to temporarily stop trading is a wise one. indeed the market is currently unstable.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on May 26, 2022, 01:44:24 AM
Altcoins can be pumped during the bearish market. When the pump happened and it didn't even care about the trend. It's based on the rumour and news that have come. If you are seeing how some garbage token already pumped and even this is not based on a strong news. This is only based on the rumour that already created by the developers. People are buying their promise and sell for the release date. This trend was an old cycle in the crypto market.
I will not be surprised to see that. It's not impossible for the altcoins to be pumped during the bearish trend.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Shasha80 on May 26, 2022, 02:45:50 AM
Altcoins can be pumped during the bearish market. When the pump happened and it didn't even care about the trend. It's based on the rumour and news that have come. If you are seeing how some garbage token already pumped and even this is not based on a strong news. This is only based on the rumour that already created by the developers. People are buying their promise and sell for the release date. This trend was an old cycle in the crypto market.
I will not be surprised to see that. It's not impossible for the altcoins to be pumped during the bearish trend.

It's a common thing that happens when there are several altcoins pumping up during a bear market, it's because someone manipulates the altcoins.
Usually it starts with rumors and news circulating about these altcoins, especially if they are helped by influencers to promote the altcoins, the increase
can be very high. But the altcoins that pump during a bear market usually include new coins or even shitcoins, very rarely do I find popular coins that
pump during a bear market. Because usually popular coins are always affected by the movement of Bitcoin. So the coins that pump during the bear
market are only used by whales to pump and dump, so my advice is to be careful when finding coins that pump during a bear market. It's not because
the coins are good, but there are coins that are manipulated to attract investors to benefit someone who manipulates the price.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: hichamito37 on May 26, 2022, 04:18:13 AM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go

Pumping still occurs with some atlcoins but they only last for a short time and then get dumped again. Always be careful with those tokens as it can be just a trap because in bear market most of the quality projects will focus on building and developing the project rather than pushing the price of the tokens.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: worle1bm on May 26, 2022, 05:23:30 AM
There can be some pumping during bear market also but that only for temporary period as most of the altcoins follow bitcoin rally but if you are really altcoin enthusiastic and want to invest in some of them go for only top one's and you could get them at low prices also rather than focusing on those who are green during this time as it could be pump dump scheme also.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Blowon on May 26, 2022, 05:27:56 AM
I'm sure it can happen, but it's only been on a few coins at a time, maybe when that bear market happens there's only one or two of my coins actually pumping. Usually this happens because there is very good news or a big event that will soon be released in their project so the bear market also encourages all investors to be able to buy cheaply, even on those days there may be only one green coin when everything is red.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Gayong88 on May 26, 2022, 05:39:27 AM
It is clear that many altcoins are struggling in the market today, but if we consider alternative perspectives on things, there is still reason to be optimistic. For the most part, they fall victim to the overall bear market sentiment. But there are some exceptions, like the coins mentioned above. if we learn and have a strategy, there is no reason why you can't make good profits by looking at altcoin projects during bear times.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Silberman on May 28, 2022, 09:36:08 PM
for altcoins, of course, the possibility to pump even though the market is bearish is always there. like new projects. but it usually won't last long. and will come back down very drastically (dump). so your decision to temporarily stop trading is a wise one. indeed the market is currently unstable.
It is better to accept the current reality of the market, it is natural that traders still want to earn profits every single day in which they trade, but there are simply moments in which this is not possible and we need to wait until things improve, because if we do not do so and we still try to trade and obtain profits no matter what then the amount of risks that we need to take will increase exponentially, and while you could obtain some profits even now, compared to the risks that you need to take during a bull market then you will soon realize that it is simply a bad idea to trade under the current circumstances.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: taufik123 on May 28, 2022, 09:44:38 PM
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in market conditions like this it is indeed a bad decision if you want to keep trading. But of course there are some steps that need to be taken to be able to benefit from this bear market.
we must know where the lower and upper limits are, we must be able to read the market direction, play fast and take a little profit.
Nothing is impossible in crypto, everything is possible.
Like the LUNA Megacrash and many people buy below and get a lot of profit, it takes courage and of course also luck.
But for some people who are afraid and don't want to take risks, it's better to stay away from this bear market. watch and wait for the right moment


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Ahli38 on May 29, 2022, 12:59:27 AM
for altcoins, of course, the possibility to pump even though the market is bearish is always there. like new projects. but it usually won't last long. and will come back down very drastically (dump). so your decision to temporarily stop trading is a wise one. indeed the market is currently unstable.
It is better to accept the current reality of the market, it is natural that traders still want to earn profits every single day in which they trade, but there are simply moments in which this is not possible and we need to wait until things improve, because if we do not do so and we still try to trade and obtain profits no matter what then the amount of risks that we need to take will increase exponentially, and while you could obtain some profits even now, compared to the risks that you need to take during a bull market then you will soon realize that it is simply a bad idea to trade under the current circumstances.

But i am still continue to trade even in bear market conditions. because I am a day trader. then I'm not too affected by market conditions. both bearish and bullish for me remains the same. because I'm in and out on the same day. (scalpers). I invest for the long term only a little (saving). even I like the market now. as in the BNB market which continues to fluctuate rapidly. it is a good condition for scalpers.

but the risk is very high. for those who are not used to it. so I suggest also to wait for market conditions to improve.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Republikcoin.com on May 29, 2022, 03:03:07 AM
But i am still continue to trade even in bear market conditions. because I am a day trader. then I'm not too affected by market conditions. both bearish and bullish for me remains the same. because I'm in and out on the same day. (scalpers). I invest for the long term only a little (saving). even I like the market now. as in the BNB market which continues to fluctuate rapidly. it is a good condition for scalpers.
You have played with a very high risk and your courage is extraordinary because I personally do not really dare to trade daily in conditions like now unless the market has really improved. But for now I still keep some valuable assets and it is my investment for the long term because I don't often trade on a daily basis.

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but the risk is very high. for those who are not used to it. so I suggest also to wait for market conditions to improve.
For those who are not used to the current market conditions, I think they will not be in a hurry to enter the market at this time because the fear of greater risk still haunts them at this time.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: GigaBit on May 29, 2022, 04:46:11 AM
Anything is possible. However, I personally deserve that the bitcoin will not go down below $20000 easily. Because there are more investors than before. In this bear market some altcoins keep their value up rising trend but that is not positive approach for the market to invest as altcoin is dependent on Bitcoin, it is better to wait for few days.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: crwth on May 29, 2022, 05:38:37 AM
Altcoins could still pump, mainly if they address a specific type of niche that no altcoin yet has ever explored, so in that sense, that's going to be a great thing to invent. There are always going to be two things.
  • Increase in demand hence increase in price
  • Cost of inflation, more people need money, people will cash out

I think that will be a determining factor when they would either put money in the market or not. It's just that many people have probably needed more money and want to cash out and cause bear markets. I think hype would always mean that it will increase in prices and not just more demand.



P.S. It's funny to see "who lived" or something. It's something that I didn't expect because it's like people were just born there—anyway, kidding.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Joshapat on May 29, 2022, 10:49:49 AM
Pump when the market is Red is a good promotion for Altcoins, in the top gainers coinmarketcap session many Altcoins continue to pump and do not care about the red market conditions, this is a good alternative to get big profits with investments in coins that pumping when the market is still red.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on June 03, 2022, 04:30:05 AM
Of course, of course yes, the famous pump and dump that have always existed, not only do it in bearish markets, but also in bullish markets, this is normal, but there is also the possibility that a newly launched project can do it with the intention that it be seen by investors, and it is not a bad strategy, it is somewhat risky but it can be very good if they know how to do it, in general the projects that are altcoins it is very good to do this movement if and only if when There is confirmation that the movement of the market is almost 100% bullish, otherwise it can be a double-edged sword because it can represent an emptying of money and therefore loss.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: maydna on June 03, 2022, 11:06:49 AM
Pump when the market is Red is a good promotion for Altcoins, in the top gainers coinmarketcap session many Altcoins continue to pump and do not care about the red market conditions, this is a good alternative to get big profits with investments in coins that pumping when the market is still red.
But unfortunately, not all projects can get the pump to raise its price to a higher price. The market which is experiencing the deepest correction at the moment, makes it a place to invest, especially for projects that have great potential to increase in the future. But altcoins will still follow where bitcoin is going and although they can increase, if the price of bitcoin goes down, altcoins will also go down and cause the market to be in the red.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Natalim on June 03, 2022, 12:20:26 PM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go
Practically speaking, I wasn't really convinced that altcoins will do the rally during the bear season but instead, they go along with the trend, and only we can see pumps when Bitcoin does first. We are witnessing this trend before and in the previous bear season, in fact, even in small corrections the altcoins have been affected too easily.

And those coins that you have mentioned OP, it is quite weird to see. They don't have such credibility to rise, that pumps are a sort of price manipulation in some exchanges, and consider a bull trap in general.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: RussiaUkraineTranslation on August 01, 2022, 12:22:36 PM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go
Practically speaking, I wasn't really convinced that altcoins will do the rally during the bear season but instead, they go along with the trend, and only we can see pumps when Bitcoin does first. We are witnessing this trend before and in the previous bear season, in fact, even in small corrections the altcoins have been affected too easily.

And those coins that you have mentioned OP, it is quite weird to see. They don't have such credibility to rise, that pumps are a sort of price manipulation in some exchanges, and consider a bull trap in general.
I remember HEX and LINK pumping in the bear market before. That said, I think we are out of the bear market now and primed for a pump back up to 50k usd BTC. That's perfect timing for new projects like MAXX finance that are launching in August as well as under the radar projects like ELF that are due for a pump.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: icalical on August 01, 2022, 01:36:23 PM
Some altcoin could have a short pump, meaning that the price will be increasing in few hours, and then it goes back to drop, after that it will it will just follow the market trend again, they wouldn't make their own trend. Most of this altcoin usually has low market cap, so the pump is most likely because some 'whale' manipulating the price.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: rozak on August 01, 2022, 01:49:41 PM
Some altcoin could have a short pump, meaning that the price will be increasing in few hours, and then it goes back to drop, after that it will it will just follow the market trend again, they wouldn't make their own trend. Most of this altcoin usually has low market cap, so the pump is most likely because some 'whale' manipulating the price.
for new altcoins, it's mostly the people within the project developers themselves who will be the ones to manipulate the altcoins to create a pump after the downturn. because their market capitalization is still weak and they need to do it so that their investors don't leave the project too soon.

some altcoins with strong trades can usually do the pump even in bear market conditions. it's also related to updates from projects that might make their market move. but most of them will not last long, because they will eventually readjust to the established trend in the market.
I've seen SOL get a high pump when bitcoin conditions are bad. that's because they get strong support to make pumps.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: virasisog on August 01, 2022, 02:37:17 PM
the potential for coin pumps in a bear market remains, even when the dump occurred in 2018, there were still a few altcoins hitting their ATH after that. however, it all depends on the coins you have. there are some altcoins that rose only for recovery because they were affected by a sudden decline, but there were also those that did not recover, even continued to decline during a bear market. it's just that the percentage of coins that will pump during a bear market is very small. So, when you want to re-enter, make sure that you have popular coins, and have much-needed benefits then and in the future.
Usually, an altcoin pump situation when a bear market is running occurs because of Investors who enter the altcoin. it could be due to risky updates that developers dared to do. it could also be due to manipulation by the project team itself.
but most of the pumping that happens to altcoins in a bear market won't last long. if bitcoin does not immediately make a steady movement in the market. it will make the altcoins that do the pump crash immediately.

Altcoins could only pump during the bearish market if there will be Fud, big announcements, and updates that will affect it positively in the future. Altcoins pump yet it won't last long because most of them rely on the price of Bitcoin. Altcoins pump might only take hours or a few days but will definitely dump again.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: capedbaldy on August 01, 2022, 06:03:18 PM
Altcoins could only pump during the bearish market if there will be Fud, big announcements, and updates that will affect it positively in the future. Altcoins pump yet it won't last long because most of them rely on the price of Bitcoin. Altcoins pump might only take hours or a few days but will definitely dump again.
The increase in altcoins is dependent on the Bitcoin market, the latest case has seen the highest altcoin gain list above 50% due to the impact of rising Bitcoin prices, but after 2 days of recovery the market indicates a return to the bear market and all altcoin gains have been low if without Bitcoin price support, profit opportunities from the recovery only for short-term and futures traders so you should close the trade when the profit is reached because considering the main market conditions are not yet stable.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: MiF on August 01, 2022, 09:47:31 PM
There are some cases that there are altcoins that rise even in a bloody market, but the coin still end to dropping specially when the bear market takes to long. the reason why some altcoins still rise even in a bear market is maybe because the coin is special or it has a great use case that is why the effect of bear season is delayed on that particular coins.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Pelana vreo on August 01, 2022, 10:56:33 PM
I remember when Bitcoin price was below $10k usd and altcoins like YFI had a higher price than BTC at that time, that's cryptocurrency, no one knows when the price of new altcoins will go up, because some altcoins have active community and project developers, this allows them to hold the coins and buy them for the long term, not because of fomo but because of the products they have.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Rufsilf on August 01, 2022, 11:15:15 PM
There are some cases that there are altcoins that rise even in a bloody market, but the coin still end to dropping specially when the bear market takes to long. the reason why some altcoins still rise even in a bear market is maybe because the coin is special or it has a great use case that is why the effect of bear season is delayed on that particular coins.
That was only a short time rally and that was because of the influence of manipulation. Hypes projects can't deny it was profitable if you are too lucky to buy earlier and then sell when it spike but the risk you face is also high as you certainly lose your money if you miss the chance to sell at its ATH. But, I don't suggest taking your time looking at those projects, not eventually and easy to find them, and I was afraid that you may just fall into scam projects. It is better to just invest in known potential projects as it was safe.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: NewRanger on August 01, 2022, 11:44:14 PM
Some altcoin could have a short pump, meaning that the price will be increasing in few hours, and then it goes back to drop, after that it will it will just follow the market trend again, they wouldn't make their own trend. Most of this altcoin usually has low market cap, so the pump is most likely because some 'whale' manipulating the price.
i dont think so about it, alot major caps also pumped in this bearish trend. i think whales now move their money from bitcoin to altcoins and its showed by several altcoin strong although bitcoin dumped. especially altcoin that have good fundamental and utility maybe it could decouple to bitcoin. we see GALA , FLM as strong altcoin in this day , bitcoin price dumped but its still able to earn gains.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: fuer44 on August 02, 2022, 03:27:43 AM
It's very difficult for the next few months, the price of the altcoins that I hold are getting lower and some in the altcoin group community have said they are not worth it anymore. I finally decided to withdraw my investment assets for staking and farming on the altcoin and just withdraw. the price is now getting down to 0.5 usdt, and if you want to know the name of the altcoin is nominex if you want to see it.

maybe next year can be a good start and even then for big coins like bitcoin and etherum.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: irsada on August 02, 2022, 08:06:19 AM
Of course, altcoins can be pumped even in a bear market. depending on how hype the dev creates for the altcoin, every day there are altcoins being pumped by whales, but be careful because it may be part of the whale game that wants to take your money.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: RussiaUkraineTranslation on August 02, 2022, 12:34:31 PM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go
Practically speaking, I wasn't really convinced that altcoins will do the rally during the bear season but instead, they go along with the trend, and only we can see pumps when Bitcoin does first. We are witnessing this trend before and in the previous bear season, in fact, even in small corrections the altcoins have been affected too easily.

And those coins that you have mentioned OP, it is quite weird to see. They don't have such credibility to rise, that pumps are a sort of price manipulation in some exchanges, and consider a bull trap in general.
Altcoins pump in a bear market all of the time. LINK hit it's ATH during a bear market in 2018 or 2019. HEX has done well during the bear market until recently. Some new projects like MAXX and Goldfinch are preparing to launch soon, so keep an eye open on coingeck new listings.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Sterbens on August 02, 2022, 12:40:51 PM
This can happen, because nothing is impossible here. But usually if an altcoin is pumped during a bear market it's definitely short-lived, which means that soon the price will return or even free-fall. We should be more careful if we find such a thing, because we are just a little late to enter then we will be left behind and even suffer losses.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: yazher on August 02, 2022, 12:45:19 PM
Mostly it is a bull trap and most of the time those who invested late are the one who suffers because they might not get their capital back once the market of that altcoin collapse and it might be impossible for them to recover it sooner since we are in the middle of a bearish market, the price will not increase at all after it falls. That's why when making an investment in those kinds of altcoins you need to consider the loss rather than focusing on gains because there's a chance you will face each one of them.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Pandu Geddon on August 02, 2022, 01:03:36 PM
This can happen, because nothing is impossible here. But usually if an altcoin is pumped during a bear market it's definitely short-lived, which means that soon the price will return or even free-fall. We should be more careful if we find such a thing, because we are just a little late to enter then we will be left behind and even suffer losses.

We have seen several times altcoins spike when the market is in bad shape. when we look at the market, we will see some altcoins that are still making pumps even though the overall asset condition in the market is experiencing a decline.
Of course, several other factors favor the pump running. such as an injection of funds from investors in the project. or any other update that could potentially make the pump happen.
The power to maintain prices is indeed difficult when the market is in a dump. but it all depends on the market capability of the project itself. some can keep it up and go down gradually. but some immediately plunged badly.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Altryist on August 02, 2022, 04:31:39 PM

I believe that altcoins can get pumped up during a bear market, such as is happening now. If you bought coins a month ago, you could be in good profits now. But of course it's a high risk. Because bitcoin is not in an uptrend right now, and altcoin pumping could be a trap.
The altcoins bounced well, which was to be expected considering how much they fell. Now there may be a long period of flat, but there may not be such large pumps and I don’t expect a strong fall yet, unless there will be some kind of force majeure, but in general I think that there will be a long period of flat, perhaps with small pumps and subsequent falls. Unless if we allow the option when bitcoin will be transferred to altcoins, then very good pumps are possible, without the growth of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Jaered on August 02, 2022, 06:34:42 PM
Yup, very much. I have had some alts on cronos pumping 100x plus in days. Some of my DeFi investments in Metis also did a good ol pump business. But in investing in alts, you have to define if you want a long or short term vision. For example, if won't do long term on a meme or shit coin. But I can long on a blockchain token like bnb or cro


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: NewRanger on August 02, 2022, 11:18:33 PM
Actually there are altcoins that can increase when the bear market occurs, but this is very rare for us to find because almost all altcoins always follow the flow of bitcoin both in increase and in decline, so to predict altcoins that can develop at a time when the bear market is certainly very difficult and only some investors can get such a moment, and this would be a great surprise for them.
I believe that altcoins can get pumped up during a bear market, such as is happening now. If you bought coins a month ago, you could be in good profits now. But of course it's a high risk. Because bitcoin is not in an uptrend right now, and altcoin pumping could be a trap.
random pump now happen in altcoin, alot coins now suddenly pump although bitcojn price dumped. I think its good thing crypto market now, altcoin price could decouple with bitcoin price. When market totally recover, we will see crazy movement on altcoin in my opinion.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Sayeds56 on August 02, 2022, 11:46:52 PM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go

Good Alts can pump anytime, it not only depends on prevailing market conditions but also on development going behind the project, likewise Ethereum merger is well is progress and it is  likely to complete within a month, so it will definitely have good impact on its price because this development will create more demand of Ethereum. Another example is burning of coin event that reduces supply of coins, hence makes good impact on price.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: ultrloa on August 02, 2022, 11:51:29 PM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go

Good Alts can pump anytime, it not only depends on prevailing market conditions but also on development going behind the project, likewise Ethereum merger is well is progress and it is  likely to complete within a month, so it will definitely have good impact on its price because this development will create more demand of Ethereum. Another example is burning of coin event that reduces supply of coins, hence makes good impact on price.

Not all good alts can pump but as well those shitcoins which undergo on massive hype can pump to but expect for them to get dumped fast because that's how scam devs make their investors think that they are more reliable compare to any other top coins which is suffering from dump brought up by bear market season. I also see so many tokens do this burning of supply but its not sustainable if the developers are totally selfish so better secure your pockets first before you see a pump before believing that there's more to come.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Jatiluhung on August 03, 2022, 03:38:31 AM
for some altcoins it can happen. especially if it's an altcoin with a new project. and is in a period of hype. then the pump will definitely happen. but it won't last long. because in the end the bear market will bring the pumped altcoins back into the dump quickly. so it's better not to speculate in a bear market. because it is very high risk.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: fzkto on August 03, 2022, 08:32:19 AM
Actually there are altcoins that can increase when the bear market occurs, but this is very rare for us to find because almost all altcoins always follow the flow of bitcoin both in increase and in decline, so to predict altcoins that can develop at a time when the bear market is certainly very difficult and only some investors can get such a moment, and this would be a great surprise for them.
I believe that altcoins can get pumped up during a bear market, such as is happening now. If you bought coins a month ago, you could be in good profits now. But of course it's a high risk. Because bitcoin is not in an uptrend right now, and altcoin pumping could be a trap.
random pump now happen in altcoin, alot coins now suddenly pump although bitcojn price dumped. I think its good thing crypto market now, altcoin price could decouple with bitcoin price. When market totally recover, we will see crazy movement on altcoin in my opinion.
What worries me is that only small-cap altcoins, which are very easy to manipulate, are getting pumped. When heavy coins like LTC or DOT start to pump, then we will be able to think about the upcoming altseason. But until that happens and bitcoin can fall even lower at any moment, I wouldn't expect the good times to come anytime soon.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: DanWalker on August 03, 2022, 08:53:34 AM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go

Good Alts can pump anytime, it not only depends on prevailing market conditions but also on development going behind the project, likewise Ethereum merger is well is progress and it is  likely to complete within a month, so it will definitely have good impact on its price because this development will create more demand of Ethereum. Another example is burning of coin event that reduces supply of coins, hence makes good impact on price.

Pumping in the bear market and going against the trend with bitcoin can be seen regularly, but most of them will only be for a certain period of time and it will soon return to the flow of bitcoin. It can't go against the whole market, bitcoin dominance is still huge in the market. Not only with good altcoins but this will happen with any coin even more with shitcoins, sometimes they don't follow any rules at all.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: carlisle1 on August 03, 2022, 09:10:49 AM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go

Good Alts can pump anytime, it not only depends on prevailing market conditions but also on development going behind the project, likewise Ethereum merger is well is progress and it is  likely to complete within a month, so it will definitely have good impact on its price because this development will create more demand of Ethereum. Another example is burning of coin event that reduces supply of coins, hence makes good impact on price.

Pumping in the bear market and going against the trend with bitcoin can be seen regularly, but most of them will only be for a certain period of time and it will soon return to the flow of bitcoin. It can't go against the whole market, bitcoin dominance is still huge in the market. Not only with good altcoins but this will happen with any coin even more with shitcoins, sometimes they don't follow any rules at all.

The possibilities of the pump group working with a low cap coins to attract investors' attention is a good example of this kind

of movement, though there are really assets that can go oppositely with how the market runs, but eventually they will just go

back and start to run on the same path as the whole market. You always need to keep yourself updated to make sure that you

are moving accordingly and you'll be capable of adjusting in case you see are not getting the result that you are aiming.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: d3nz on August 03, 2022, 10:13:57 AM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go

Good Alts can pump anytime, it not only depends on prevailing market conditions but also on development going behind the project, likewise Ethereum merger is well is progress and it is  likely to complete within a month, so it will definitely have good impact on its price because this development will create more demand of Ethereum. Another example is burning of coin event that reduces supply of coins, hence makes good impact on price.

Pumping in the bear market and going against the trend with bitcoin can be seen regularly, but most of them will only be for a certain period of time and it will soon return to the flow of bitcoin. It can't go against the whole market, bitcoin dominance is still huge in the market. Not only with good altcoins but this will happen with any coin even more with shitcoins, sometimes they don't follow any rules at all.

It's the flow of the market, and if you are familiar with how to read the Fibonacci then you will recognize when the pump and dump will begin. The other thing is when the whales are trying to increase the volume of a certain altcoin then they will pump it until new player/investors will come in then buy on the trend then whales will do their usual job.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Questat on August 03, 2022, 12:03:40 PM

It's the flow of the market, and if you are familiar with how to read the Fibonacci then you will recognize when the pump and dump will begin. The other thing is when the whales are trying to increase the volume of a certain altcoin then they will pump it until new player/investors will come in then buy on the trend then whales will do their usual job.
But I don't think the Fibonacci strategy will certainly work in a volatile market and give you an exact direction as I see this still lead to price prediction. That is why even having multiple market tools use in doing market analysis that can't still be the assurance. Moreover, at this bear market condition, it was found to be exemptional if the project went high and created a huge pump unless it was hype and manipulated prices which I don't think was a good idea to invest in.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Wong Gendheng on August 03, 2022, 01:43:08 PM
New Coins always appear and pump up to hundreds of percent, as happened today New Coins such as Saudi Shiba Inu Pump more than 450%, this proves that the market trend is always dynamic, if Old Coins Dumps but new listed coins are always pump and this become A good opportunity for profit with investing new coins.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Jackl87 on August 03, 2022, 01:56:48 PM
Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go

Of course it is always possible that a certain project is pumping even though the whole crypto market in general is going down or is in a bear market. If a project is reaching an important milestone in development or suddenly gets a lot of attention from the public or whatever than it will still pump even if the whole market is not really that positive. Obviously it is very hard to find those few projects that may pump during a bear market before they are pumping because obviously the pump is starting as soon as the first news or rumors are spreading. During a bull market almost every projects pumps so you can not do too much wrong there.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: kojektea on August 03, 2022, 03:36:54 PM
Usually small altcoins such as tokens that have low volume will not be associated with market trends. They have their own trend so many people take advantage of this as a quick profit but the risk is big. While the large volume altcoins that are at the top have to really follow the trend of how the whales take them.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Desscount on August 03, 2022, 03:43:45 PM
we have entered the bearish season 2022/2023, of course volatility in altcoins will also be higher, Pump and Dump will occur,
because altcoins will follow the movement of Bitcoin prices, now my advice is that you buy altcoins with strong fundamentals,
such as Ocean, HIVE or even CTK, on Binance they have a great way, buy and hold.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: onecall123 on August 03, 2022, 04:15:24 PM
Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go

Of course it is always possible that a certain project is pumping even though the whole crypto market in general is going down or is in a bear market. If a project is reaching an important milestone in development or suddenly gets a lot of attention from the public or whatever than it will still pump even if the whole market is not really that positive. Obviously it is very hard to find those few projects that may pump during a bear market before they are pumping because obviously the pump is starting as soon as the first news or rumors are spreading. During a bull market almost every projects pumps so you can not do too much wrong there.

A few certain projects have been making some very big moves upward, and I have been following them very closely. Some pumps have already taken place, but I missed them. During a bear market, identifying those few projects that may pump can be challenging, but those who are patient and research a lot can take some free money through it. I find it really interesting. You may want to give it a try, even though it's not worth much. As soon as the bulls return, it is time to bet almost any top project so as to make sure profits.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Victorik on August 03, 2022, 04:29:58 PM
It depends on the altcoins. Not all altcoins will survive this bear. A lot of altcoins are going to fizzle out, but the strong ones will stand and do well.
Some altcoins especially meme coin without a strong usecase can't survive, let alone pump.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: tbterryboy on August 04, 2022, 02:40:24 PM
The possibilities of the pump group working with a low cap coins to attract investors' attention is a good example of this kind of movement, though there are really assets that can go oppositely with how the market runs, but eventually they will just go back and start to run on the same path as the whole market. You always need to keep yourself updated to make sure that you are moving accordingly and you'll be capable of adjusting in case you see are not getting the result that you are aiming.
That's the point, i the market decides that it should be at certain price, and a bunch of people decide they could pump it otherwise, the market will destroy them and still find a way to get it to that price again. The idea of a pump is to make a hail mary where you end up making the price change and stay there, but we all know that it can't happen and the price will go back.

I lived through periods where people pumped coins at 800% levels, and the price skyrocketed like crazy for maybe like 15 minutes but as soon as it peaked, EVERYONE started to sell and that's when it dropped even further down then what it used to be before the pump starts and the coin was hurt because of it.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Ansu5801 on August 04, 2022, 02:49:34 PM
There are alot of altcoins, on which, there is no effect of the bear market, no matter how down the market came, this token keeps it's price stable, I'm not promoting or sponsoring it, I'm just answering to your question,
Token name is DIFX, it is only listed on its own exchange that's why it does not go down.
Conclusion: the alt with it's own exchange doesn't depend on market, so it could also go up too.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: popeye95 on August 04, 2022, 05:34:04 PM
Although it wasn't unheard of for altcoins to pump and against the trend during the bear market but indeed, it was very rare. Also, too much risk for investing in low cap altcoins just for the chance it can pump into the bear market as well. Instead, you can have a nice pump from the top CMC altcoins like ETC with low risk if you follow the market news regularly, of how ETH is soon to be POS and miners will have to mine ETC.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Zulkifli BI on August 04, 2022, 07:12:12 PM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go

I noticed that the current condition of the bear market condition will end soon because altcoin prices have started to recover although not too high. but in my opinion in the next few months there will be a big wave that will occur in the market so that many altcoins will increase higher than now. and let's see later what will happen to bitcoin and altcoins.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: lalabotax on August 04, 2022, 09:50:09 PM
we have entered the bearish season 2022/2023, of course volatility in altcoins will also be higher, Pump and Dump will occur,
because altcoins will follow the movement of Bitcoin prices,
The prices of altcoins don't always follow the movement of Bitcoin price. Sometimes the price of an altcoin can increase because of good news from that altcoin, for examples: there is a new sponsorship, burning program, or new product made by the project team. These are just some examples that can make pump of altcoin prices without the influence of Bitcoin price. Although the price of Bitcoin is decreasing, the price of that altcoin can increase if one of those examples is happening.



Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: shinratensei_ on August 04, 2022, 10:00:08 PM
instead of finding some coins that could increase its value around the current trend, you better invest in coin that has lost its value and just wait until the bullrun comes, that's like better way of increasing your investment in the long run since most of the time, the coin that you're looking for are low market capitalization coin that's heavily manipulated, that's the reason they could go against the trend.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: milewilda on August 04, 2022, 10:08:04 PM
instead of finding some coins that could increase its value around the current trend, you better invest in coin that has lost its value and just wait until the bullrun comes, that's like better way of increasing your investment in the long run since most of the time, the coin that you're looking for are low market capitalization coin that's heavily manipulated, that's the reason they could go against the trend.
Thats a gamble i would say on where you do make out consideration on making out investment on coins that had been heavily manipulated and its price is on the floor and tending to get in as lower as you could but we know that odds of being pumped once again would really be that hard because we wont know if this one would create that straight line on upcoming years to come and the worst
it would get delisted just because of lacking volume or liquidity thats why its something a risky decision to be made out but if you could able to bare with the risk then its your choice
but make it sure that you do make yourself fully aware about the probabilities but cant really be denied that having these low caps could definitely give that chance on giving enormous profits.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: boty on August 04, 2022, 10:30:05 PM
instead of finding some coins that could increase its value around the current trend, you better invest in coin that has lost its value and just wait until the bullrun comes, that's like better way of increasing your investment in the long run since most of the time, the coin that you're looking for are low market capitalization coin that's heavily manipulated, that's the reason they could go against the trend.
find good coins which drop due investors taking profits, dont cause another reason. this kind coins safer for us and also still have alot gap to growth in near future , moreover if bitcoin price recover again. alot investors could not differentiate reason behind coins dump, and if we could find it i am believe no matter bearish or bullish trend we still could earn profits,


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: RussianEnglishTranslation on August 05, 2022, 11:36:29 AM
For those who lived during the past bear market ( 2018 /2019 ):

Can AltCoins go against the larger trend and actually pump nicely during a bear market ? I know there was a bit of a pump in 2019, so I don't know.. but right now I'm seeing Gods Unchained, Ox and a few other coins pump even if Bitcoin's Market dominance is still well over 42 %. Lets not also forget the market is still in a downtrend headed for lower lows at the moment. So would there be any point in trying to FOMO into altcoins pumping ?
I personally exited the market almost entirely, plan to re enter when Bitcoin hits 15K or even lower. Then again I've noticed some alts coming desperately close to the negative 98% mark... you have to wonder how much lower can they go
For sure, altcoins can pump during a bear market. ICP pumped 25% over the last week. If you had bought during the last few months you would be in profit.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: asriloni on August 05, 2022, 11:38:59 AM
For sure, altcoins can pump during a bear market. ICP pumped 25% over the last week. If you had bought during the last few months you would be in profit.
It's not only ICP, OP was also facing a huge pump since a few weeks ago and it's still in a big pump. I have made 4x profit since i was buying OP at the bottom price. Any altcoins in the market can be pumped easily by the whales. The trend didn't matter a lot as long as there will always be the new to bring the hype to the token. I have seen so many tokens have experienced the same thing like ICP and OP. ETC was also pumping so hard after merged announcement.
As long as a token/coin got big news, the whales will not feel hesitate to pump it lol


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Kelvinid on August 05, 2022, 12:08:34 PM
For sure, altcoins can pump during a bear market. ICP pumped 25% over the last week. If you had bought during the last few months you would be in profit.
It's not only ICP, OP was also facing a huge pump since a few weeks ago and it's still in a big pump. I have made 4x profit since i was buying OP at the bottom price. Any altcoins in the market can be pumped easily by the whales. The trend didn't matter a lot as long as there will always be the new to bring the hype to the token. I have seen so many tokens have experienced the same thing like ICP and OP. ETC was also pumping so hard after merged announcement.
As long as a token/coin got big news, the whales will not feel hesitate to pump it lol
Whales have a huge market influence and can make a spike in the price of a certain coin. But I feel risky investing this coin, we never know what will be the next move that these whales are planning to do which is very often the cause of losses. Well, I tell you that you are too lucky to have that 4x profit in investing ICP but never think about holding them for long because those projects build with hypes and manipulated prices won't stay long as they drop drastically.


Title: Re: Can some AltCoins pump during bear markets ?
Post by: Tomohisa on August 05, 2022, 12:33:04 PM
we have entered the bearish season 2022/2023, of course volatility in altcoins will also be higher, Pump and Dump will occur,
because altcoins will follow the movement of Bitcoin prices,
The prices of altcoins don't always follow the movement of Bitcoin price. Sometimes the price of an altcoin can increase because of good news from that altcoin, for examples: there is a new sponsorship, burning program, or new product made by the project team. These are just some examples that can make pump of altcoin prices without the influence of Bitcoin price. Although the price of Bitcoin is decreasing, the price of that altcoin can increase if one of those examples is happening.


Only a few altcoins can go against Bitcoin and market trends. Good news like you said altcoins might bump its price for a short amount of time but eventually the price will rise and fall similar to Bitcoin and the market. That's why don't have too much hope for upcoming good news for an altcoin, you might fall under a pump cycle because of 'priced in' to anticipant it.