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Apparently Denmark is all Set to Launch the new Digital ID rules for Gambling in the upcoming July. They have already been using some sort of identification but apparently this is new and improved and would apply for all the gamblers willing to submit their ID and use the services. EasyID is now going to be Replaced by MyID. The license holders of online casino would have to now integrate their systems in the manner that the government prefers. People are still waiting for an update but I would like to know what you think about the system of online ID? Integrating it with gambling might be saving some kids going on these sites but it might also be taking all the privacy away. What are your thoughts on this ?
Reference:
 https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july (https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july)

Ultimately this is just another way of the governments to make sure that they will receive the taxes that these gamblers will incur with their gambling habits. I see privacy being a concern too, especially from people who like to keep their identity secret during their time as a gambler. It is a double-edged sword, one to quell underage gambling and the other to remove the privacy that a lot of people enjoy. Idk how it would pan out, but if it works in Denmark doesn't mean that it will work in other countries, that's for certain.

I like it if one concern is to prohibit kids go into the premises of these gambling places. But there are deeper reasons why they've done this, like what dothebeats said, taxation is the most concern on this.

Countries that have been getting huge taxes on the gambling industry focuses only on this. And with this reform and program that they do, it also at least gives back to that reason of tracing those that shouldn't gamble.

Yeah, just probably implement to restrict underage to gamble. For sure it will be hard to 'fake' this documents or maybe this kids can find a loophole? We really don't know, still up to their parents though to really monitor them. As far as privacy goes, the casino's will have the responsibility to protect the data of all of their customers and I don't think there is privacy if you gamble either online or off-line. Offline casinos too require id if you wanted to avail of their cards to gain points or have perks like free hotel accommodations, food and drinks and everything that will make gamblers go back and play more.

The main concerns for me personally would be :

1. The government collecting data of the people gambling , it's very easy to see how these things are done you will see more advertising Targeted to you on your browser as well but at the end of the day we don't know how they would use it, it can be used in a bad way as well, checking and keeping a track of their habits and them getting discriminated against other lot.

2. Underage still being able to use the platform on things like tablets and phone because most of the times people would keep it on their phones and add it to make it much more quicker therefore what they would be doing to prevent that is another story.

This is interesting. Privacy is not going to be much of a concern because it is already required that during registration process the online gambler to provides extensive information including personal information. The one of the goals of the digital ID is to prove one's age and identity online and offline. At least this step would go a long way in ensuring responsible gambling.


@fiulpro I'm thinking that the data will be stored in the database of the online casino and online betting website and not in the government database. Is the data being submitted to the gambling website or the government?

https://iclg.com/practice-areas/gambling-laws-and-regulations/denmark

The government is claiming that the new law  (https://www.gamblinginsider.com/news/16594/denmark-to-introduce-new-digital-id-rules-in-july)is to improve security requirements and technological advance the Danish gambling system. If this law is to protect the Danish gambling space from hackers and other online criminals and to restrict underage gamblers then its a good development. But the government would also want to invade the privacy of the Danish people with the aim of limiting tax invasion and also control their financial transactions. But we have to wait until gambling operators start transiting to MitID for us to ascertain its advantages and disadvantages.

Honestly, I believe this only comes to help.
Because currently many casinos are asking for KYC for the user and we don't even know what they do with it.

Now, if there is government support requesting and storing this information, at least we know what they are collecting this information for.

For those who aren't happy with that, there are several other sites that don't require ID verification.

I see this as a good opportunity for fighting "gambling addiction".
If an ID will be considered at risk of addiction or request to be excluded from betting... it will be easier and safe for a player.
I don't see any privacy concerns since there is already KYC and other data that could be shared by platforms

I wonder how does this work?

the casinos that are here on the forum are owned by anonymous owners and from different countries so it means that these casinos that are here on the forum and even the casinos that are not here on the forum must not allow citizens of denmark to access the casinos, because the casinos don't you have a license in denmark to be able to comply with these laws and also put the MitID into operation? I keep asking myself: why don't they also ask that alcohol companies start having a system similar to this MitID? why don't they ask companies that make chocolates to put a system like MitID? many children are obese and addicted to chocolates, but governments ignore this, governments and society are only focused on prosecuting gambling and not regulating it in a fair way that benefits casinos and gamblers


I also don't understand why anonymous sites ask people to KYC? and where do our documents go? but I also think that governments shouldn't be forcing people to KYC, they should be closely monitoring scam activities, and running awareness campaigns so people don't spend all their money on gambling

Another crappy idea from officials. On the one hand, all these innovations are introduced under the pretext of good intentions, but in the end we are getting closer to a digital concentration camp. And I also wonder at whose expense online casinos should implement this identification system? If the government of each country will require "special" features for its citizens, then I can imagine what an absurdity this will turn into. I hope that in the future there will be a sufficient number of online casinos without KYC and with the ability to use cryptocurrencies. I don't want to have anything to do with officials in terms of allowing me to gamble.

Sometimes I have the perception these authorities don't have any problems in their countries to solve and their whole worries and concerns turn around gambling. Maybe they think once they strict gambling at the highest level as possible and totally prevent underage people from gambling, their countries will be perfect in every aspects, as gambling were the root of every issues they face nowadays.

I would like to see technology being spread and helping in fields where it really matters and make the difference for us in our daily lives and not to watch us and control what we are doing every seconds of the day. Governments should let people be responsible for their own acts and stop acting like a babysitter or the big brother...

This protectionist approach governments have towards their citizens is one of the main reasons why there are lots of citizens who can't take responsability for their own acts and keep blaming others for their own mistakes. Like the gambler who borrowed money from his acquainted, didn't pay, and when sued by him, claimed it was the casino's fault to keep offering free spins every time he tried to close his account.

We know that it could really be having two things which is into its pro's and its con's and we need to have that common sense in able to determine it out.  :D
This isnt something different with KYC verification but now they are implementing on having some ID which is good for avoiding kid gamblers or those who are in below age
but of course it would really be sacrificing your identity or information which is something not that surprising but i do still appreciate the initiative.
This will really make crypto gambling to be that relevant.

Introducing this type of ID format does heavily centralize log in authentication under the state. Centralization in security matters might be correlated with a single point of failure. As it connects multiple gambling portals under a single monolithic system. It is possible that all of those gambling sites can be compromised by simply compromising one single government site. Which could be a poor model to pursue as far as operational security goes.

In the united states they do security audits of infrastructure and different sectors of business, the state and economy. To see how prepared and well defended it is against electronic attacks and cyber intrusions. Every year the united states receives poor grades on its internet security preparedness. I can't comment on denmark's state of affairs as far as internet security goes but I hope its better than the united states.

When you mean by this development, is this purely when visiting physical casinos or is this also applicable in online gambling? While I do appreciate the efforts of the government to improve their security system, this would only relatively impact only a handful of persons as this not address entirely the issue of gambling addiction.

Like what most have mentioned, the impact would only be towards proper payment of taxes and accounting as this would impose more stricter rules on the side of gambling establishments, not on the players and the impact on the society.

Even if they give benefits if you agreed to submit your ID I'll not go for it, my privacy is priceless, there's no way I will just surrender if it involves gambling, they will have a peek at how much you're spending and their cut if you win a big amount, this is the first time I read about this, but if you're playing in Cryptocurrency based gambling I don't think you need this, this ID just serves the government purposes of monitoring your financial capability so they can run to you if you are delinquent or impose new taxes for you.

It's pretty cool and convenient to have an online system. The only problem is identity theft as some hackers would try to steal information from government database. A stolen identity could mean a lot of trouble.

Both gamblers and gambling operators must be aware of these already.

Your identity is protected by law in Europe as far as I know so data privacy is not really a gambler's concern here. Their problem is that they are not anonymous and they cannot hide from government taxes should they win big.

Is that really needed? People could live without it and anyone especially on crypto can gamble without any sort of identification and I believe majority didn't like to have that since its like exposing yourself on certain things which other people may not like. Maybe this is preparation for their government to impose a taxation towards this industry but lets just see further this kind of developments they made if this will create better result or not to their citizens.

Denmark may take quick steps for identity that will filter in the future about gambling. The big deal is likely to be a regulation to keep things under control with applicable Terms and Conditions.

I agree because this effort can reduce the number of underage gambling population who play behind the supervision of parents.
I think adults will be given a good platform by the Danish government.
it is also possible in that country foam gambling is included in dividends or state revenue for the state treasury.

1 month to go, my friend.
Of course there are pros and cons like friends discussed above.
but any attempt to mediate, as the Danish government has planned above, of course with a good study and arrangement of deliberation.

and this is fair enough than the residents are limited and have to hide iP to carry out these activities.

I have looked for information about this and I see that they do not have a mandatory ID card that identifies all citizens, there is an electronic ID that is used to interact with public administrations and other tasks. In countries where there is a mandatory ID, having to provide it for almost anything, like being able to bet in a casino, is normal. Traditionally Anglo-Saxon countries (and others) have been more against them and in favor of privacy, but it seems to me that in the world in general we are moving towards more and more control of everything in all countries.

On the part of the states and with respect to gambling, it is a way to ensure that they collect the taxes they owe, as has been mentioned. Also to make sure that there are no minors.

The problem with this is that it is always sold with noble motives but ends up with a greater control of the population.

At first I thought its a membership ID for gamblers.  :D  Sort for casinos and you get free spins everyday.
Its actually used to access online banking, government websites and certain digital services, such as online gambling.  Now I don't know why you would need an ID for gambling, usually they just check how old you are whichever ID you present and then you can go bet all the way.  

A bit spooky but if they don't protest against this,  I guess its okay for the Danish.

Oh wow that is going to either really suck or be a massive improvement for the gambling world. With a Digital ID they can perhaps deal better with keeping out gambling addicts and children who are just curious to try gambling. I guess gambling addicted children can also fall into that category.

Since its coming out of Denmark we can expect they will at least somewhat respect human rights in matters of privacy.

I doubt that Denmark is trying to pull a fast one over their own citizens. They have too much of a good track record to do that. So lets see what happens!

I guess this ID is being centralised and only this ID could be used to access an account from an online gambling website since they plan it to integrate it to the website.
This is kinda shady knowing that you have your information on the ID, but I think this is also one way of minimizing the use of gambling website that could be accessible by minors.

I checked the article but I did not see the difference between the two digital IDs. Is the new ID digital while the one that the government want to phase out not digital? I think you are from Denmark, I will like to know more about this.

But what I just know is that if you are gambling on a site that is well regulated by the government of a country, there is nothing like privacy, you use their local currency online which can easily be traced, you link your credit card to the site, you are verified with KYC on the site, so no privacy at all even without the introduction of this new news means of identification.

Some of you may find this surprising, but in countries like Spain it is commonplace. The ID card is compulsory from the age of 14 for everyone and is something that everyone usually carries in their wallet when they leave home. To enter a physical casino or to be able to gamble online it is a requirement that you send them the ID card scanned or with a clear photo of your mobile phone.

How are they going to know if you are playing on a foreign crypto casino? If your crypto don't have any tracks from a KYC-enabled exchange, then they won't know about your coins. It means you can freely gamble on any international casino there is.

They are fighting with ghosts imo. Still though, probably most Danish people will be afraid to play on the international casinos.

Another step taken to kill decentralization/anonymity.

Government can only be using IP address, but most government are not really concerned about this much or maybe I am using my country to discuss about this because I noticed the government do not yet care about the gambling sites we do visit. I will say this will apply more to gambling sites in the particular country and not beyond that country, individual countries will also have their own gambling rules and regulations from the government but there are crypto gambling sites with no such stringent rules.

Even if they know about your coins, it can still be done in a way they will later have no track record about it after sending it to another addresses with more than 5 hops and also making use of Coinjoin, Payjoin, mixers and the likes.

This is just partaining to Danish gambling sites.

I do not think so, this is partaining to gambling sites in Denmark and nothing private about the sites regulated by the government.

Without a doubt this is mostly about the taxes but it is also about control, personally I cannot believe that people let themselves be monitored all the time and still think it is a good thing, it seems there is no floor to the freedoms people are willing to give in the name of their security or the security of someone else, and even if cryptocurrencies offer some privacy many casinos are also implementing KYC policies, so we may come to the day in which you cannot gamble before turning all your information including your medical records to the government in turn.

I would say it's good to restrict kids from engaging in these sort of gambling activities as it could have adverse affect on them making them prone to gambling getting addicted at this age only.So there needs to be some steps like this by implementing ID decision although the government have profit motive on their minds first of all so as no gambler is left unnoticed.They always want to supervise these things which is what they are doing through these ID proofs.

For few reasons this is good.

• Important one is the kids getting into gambling can be restricted.
• Government is able to tax the gamblers.
• Casinos have the advantage of solving issues, if someone have tried to cheat.
• It is possible to easily keep track of gamblers getting into addiction. Measures can be taken by giving break to those users.

On the other side the privacy of the gamblers gets disturbed. Governments have every data, more people will look for ways to duplicate the id and using blockchain technology will make the process more effective. This move from the governments will direct people towards cryptocurrency accepted platforms for their gambling needs.

It would be fine if it were an online ID system for any other business. But suppose the online ID system is used in the gambling business, especially crypto gambling. In that case, I don't think it's appropriate because crypto gamblers don't want to reveal their identities to anyone. They prefer to play as anonymous and no one knows who they are gambling. Maybe this can save the kids but what about the adults who want to gamble? Will they also accept this decision? I don't think all adults can accept that requirement and I think it's better to wait for further news from the government and see how it operates.

To be honest, This is not necessary because this will attack the privacy of there citizen but Danish government might want to fight against gambling addiction or underage players that freely go the casino. The casino being subject here are those fiat based including IRL that has license to operate in there country. This law covered only Denmark citizen so crypto user is safe from this. The only problem is when this method become successful and all country start adapting with revision that includes crypto exchange to mandatory requiring the user living on the particular country with this kind of law.

This will give pain to all crypto user that gambling most of the time. I don't know the full content of the law but I'm assuming that casino with crypto features exempts the user that only using crypto as there balance.

If the player's concern is all about their identity because of the Mandatory KYC this gives a problem to them instead they will find another platform that would like to make sure they are anonymous itself. Well if this becomes mandatory in the country the gambling company must comply with the Data privacy act and other rules regarding the users' information to make sure it is safe. If this happens, they make sure that the wallets or the banks supported too these kinds of transactions to prevent freezing their accounts.

This law is only about going against the decentralised unanimous purpose of blockchain. The government is seeking to control the people both owners of casinos and players and the major purpose is for the financial gain and for tax collection. Although on another level there will be regulated casino system because the government will also ensure that casinos are clear of scamming gamblers of their money.

Everything has pros and cons. I don't think the negative outcome you mentioned outweighs the positive one. People can't do anything about submitting their private data to the government. They need to do it if they want to gamble without worrying. If people will fake their information, then they are just putting their self in more danger from the government. In this digital world, it's really difficult to not comply to those policies.

In my opinion, this initiative will have a negative impact on gamblers, since a Danish citizen can play gambling sites located in other jurisdictions without any obstacles using a VPN on their device.

But the collection of personal information and possible leakage of personal data is a really serious problem for society.

Probably the reason behind this is mainly due to the tax they will get once the gamblers identity are known. Having a centralized database that includes all the gamblers in a particular place would make their job easier to collect and verify whether the tax they are collecting is matched to the population of gamblers in a casino.

Although the idea of imposing this to protect the minors is a plus too. I just think that the main reason they're going to do this is because of money matters. This might be good so that children won't be able to play and bet because they will be easily identified. However, this is a disadvantage on the side of the gamblers since their personal information is at stake.

I dislike anything that has to do with KYC and submission of documents to anyone. Your documents are always safe with you, you don't know how careless those companies will be that your information may become leak to third party, what is even the assurance that they wouldn't sell your documents to anyone including the government. It will be easier to identify people when they collect their data, I can't imagine my self been identified as a gambler when they want to address me, this is a red flag for those who play privately.
The forum has always discouraged the use of KYC and that's what I will recommend for everyone.

I don't know about the Danish people and how the government handles gambling in their country, but here in our country and in other countries, it will not work, Cryptocurrency adoption is moving and well-accepted already, the Danish people must be honest and they trust their government for them to trust their vital information, this is something not acceptable to the majority of gamblers in Cryptocurrency based casinos.

This is nothing but a form of consumer protection in the gambling industry and the prosecution of stricter obligations for citizens in return. The problem is, is asking for personal information common in gambling companies in that country?
From other news (https://igamingbusiness.com/danish-ggr-rises-29-6-year-on-year/), the country's revenue from online gambling decreased year by year by an average of 7%. Don't know if this means the number of players continues to decrease due to requests for personal information or there are more tax violators from gambling income which is the reason for this rule.

Another angle to this development is that it will eliminate the privacy that the danish people formerly enjoy while gambling, as the government will also be able to keep track of its citizens and monitor their gambling behaviour. Certainly it may result in some citizens not being eligible to hold some public positions and offices once their gambling behaviour is checked and seen to be out of control. For instance, an individual seeking any position regarding finance in any government establishment may not be considered or easily disqualified if his gambling record shows he has a disorder.

Government does really like to track everything and this is really can be seen into those typical gambling sites or casinos we do have online on which KYC verification is a must or even transacting with your own credit

card which do really exposes off your identity or personal details and thats the preference of the government and now they are trying to implement that digital id number then its not really that totally different.

They are really just doing it for some organized way but in overall it is just on the same sense.

We can't say about this without knowing what is actually going to become the law, but as you said if it requires ID verification for every players then it may eliminate the minors abusing the system but do you think it is going to stop them completely? They will move to other platforms where there is no such requirements or even can result into unregulated scam casinos which steals money from the people selectively.

I think we may have lot of pros here outweighing the cons considering that this may help to lessen somehow the problem gambling. Not that so sure about that but somehow I get the feeling that it will decrease on that aspect. The government should have an agreement not to use those data somewhere else but still doubtful though on what it may bring.

The thing is, if people who want to enjoy the benefits that it may brought on them, I don't think submissions would be an issue for them, as long as it has utility, people will provide even if it means about privacy.

It will surely have its pros and cons. It will be another strategy for the government to regulate and monitor the gamblers as well as their earnings which will also require them to pay taxes later on. On the other hand, it could also lessen the number of minors who are into gambling. Through this, they will be able to control or even prohibit young people to gamble which is also a good thing.

That's quite handy from the perspective of the governance control. Possible some kind of authentication system will be introduced which will have a verification api linked to the government portal which will authenticate the user and let the user login to the gambling platform.

The privacy of the swedish users will become officially next to zero. But I believe this rule will be applied to the fiat based casinos who are operating from Sweden.

If that is the case, July will bring in some great number of users in the crypto gambling platforms. Good days are coming soon for the crypto gambling companies.

Another confirmation of the fact that the state, trying to do something good, does bad things (or it is so bad that this good turns into bad). If these measures are for the benefit of the people, then why are they running away from this jurisdiction and obviously playing either online or in other countries? I think the answer is obvious - people don't want such tight control and unreasonable taxes.

ID for gambling, ID as passport of health, ID to track carbon trail, ID for whatever and so on. When I see all these initiatives and innovations, I always "get stuck" between two thoughts: on the one hand, officials are cretins and come up with cretin things just to prove their need and continue to be parasites. On the other hand, all this very clearly leads to totalitarianism, that is, it is a completely meaningful strategy. Quite funny, but I think both motives are significant here.

Based on the article they have an old ID system they've been using for over a decade before the creation of Cryptocurrency and casino based Cryptocurrency and they are just upgrading the old ID system, if the majority of Danish are strict followers of Cryptocurrency and decentralization then they will not accept this ID to be used in their gambling activity and they will opt to play in Cryptocurrency based casino that can protect their identity, I don't think this kind of ID system will be successful in countries where Cryptocurrency based casinos are well accepted.

for sure, this move will make their government track their people about their activities. now, it depends on the person himself if he will use such ID to use those gambling sites. this is why it is better to play in crypto casinos or bookies, because some of them are not yet asking for KYC. the decision to use ID is really up to the individual. because once he submitted his credentials, he should know that his privacy is at stake here. the government knows his gambling activities and so he should not be surprised if he needs to submit tax for this activity.

Maybe this method can be applied to gamblers so that the government can monitor anyone who has used a lot of money to gamble.
But I don't know if this method will be liked by gamblers because, at the very least, gamblers have to register themselves before gambling and it can make their identity visible to the government.
After that, gamblers will not feel free to gamble because of government supervision.
If this is really implemented in that country, privacy for people who want to play gambling will be lost, especially for people who use crypto to gamble.

but I cannot get the Idea what is this? obligatory ? or something that People will decide if they wanted or not? or at least how this can be applicable in Online as there are gambling sites that does not require KYC?

but this is perfect for those KYCed  site because this ID will surely help them out claiming faster.

Welcome to the new world order where “you will own nothing and still be happy”. -Klaus Schwab

This kind of crap will only increase as we get closer to 2030. Real estate prices, food prices are climbing up. Soon people will be begging their masters for food and shelter and in return they will give up on their privacy rights.

I'm in favor of this. And because the country is Denmark I think I would be submitting myself to this if I were a citizen. But if this is done in other countries where the level of inefficiency, corruption, abuse, and failure to properly implement policies are very high, I would stick to the old ways of doing online gambling and keep myself private. I'm sure there will always be ways to go around this new system.

I am going to remain neutral, as I see both positive and negative aspects. Digital ID threatens privacy, as has been discussed and is the main concern of this thread, but implementing it has positive aspects such as preventing minors from gambling. Crypto casinos currently without KYC can not know if the gambler is a minor, and therefore can not prohibit him to play even if he is in their TOS,

On the other hand, with steps like these it seems that we are going to total control of the population, with cameras everywhere and where governments are going to know what you are doing every second.

The government may really will sponsor casinos just to get their hands on the information of the gamblers in the country. Its an all -in-one ID from financial, government to services you will have to provide ID.

They are not saying it but they are going to what the CCP had achieved in China. What they don't know is that Chinese like it that way because they know their government serves them well. Idk in Denmark government but in US its definitely not going not work. Even the 2nd Amendment is highly debated.

I like the idea of having to verify your ID on one verification platform, in order to use all online gambling platforms.
This is way more convenient than having to verify your identity on each and every online casino you are using.
The second good thing is that the MyID platform is going to be strictly controlled by the government. This is way better than 10 online casinos having to handle your sensitive data and you not knowing what are they doing with it.
However, I don't live in Denmark and I won't affect by this new regulation. Perhaps more Danish gamblers can join the discussion and share some thoughts about this new verification system.
I don't know how easy it is for Danish gamblers to sign up on online casinos, that are licensed outside Denmark? I guess that this might be forbidden.

That's what I'm worried about right now because the world has gone through many things that made a lot of people suffer.
Starting from food shortages in several countries due to reduced supply, rising food prices, and so on, they can't survive even though some can survive with difficulty.
But regarding government oversight of the gambling business, the government is starting to realize that crypto is starting to become popular.
There is a possibility that many things will shift to using crypto.
It makes the government want to find out who the people in crypto are.

At first, it sounds convenient but after seeing the previous cases of casinos and sportsbooks getting compromised and potentially leaking their player's information the risk is still there. It might help stop people that are under 18 from gambling but it won't completely stop the problem though. On the other hand, the rules make it somewhat faster for gamblers to verify their accounts if the only thing they need is to provide a digital ID instead of having that selfie requirement plus the utility bill that could take days up to weeks.

That is true that the new ID can help to restrict the kids and under 18+ from gambling and also make tax be more possible by the government but Casinos do not have any more advantage to solve issues or you can explain more about this.

Gambling platforms without with just verification can keep track record of their users, some have ways to limit their users from gambling with large amount of money but to limit their users from gambling is not effective and as I understand it, the gambling sites do not care about you, your property or anything about you, the best way is to not just get addicted because no other best way solves anything related to gambling addiction.

In general, I noticed that this issue (confidentiality and privacy) is practically absent in the modern world. Wherever there is data, there will be leaks - just watch the news to see that any data is leaking from government, offshore or corporate. When a government creates another database and ID system for something, it obviously creates future problems for end users. In the next topic, there is a discussion where many speak out for the fact that the employer is right when he removes addicted gamblers from work - it is obvious that such figures will delve into other people's data without remorse in order to "secure their business from unnecessary risks". Well, there is a positive side to this as cryptocurrencies offer working solutions to bypass all of this.

I think the development of the gambling world is like this, so there is no privacy that is properly guarded, with the presence of a digital ID in gambling places, it will make everyone including the government know who is gambling in that place and of course it will be a place to get a lot of money from taxes they levy on gamblers. I think it would be better to keep their privacy even though they have to pay taxes.

^ I also thinking of this, probably this ID system will matter only of having taxes and people should pay tax and the government will always benefit on this.
However, that is the disadvantage that I have seen here, if you will analyze the ID system will help the gamblers and also the gambling platform upon scamming for both parties. there is no scam for both or any illegal activities because they are both under the control of the government. I want to hear an update on this like after a year or in several months, if there will be improvements much better, it could also other countries will follow of what they did.

But we are in a crypto world that does not use identity to transact. After the implementation of digital ID in all crypto businesses, there will be no more privacy for people who hold crypto because of interference from the government who wants to know who owns crypto. And yes, the government wants to tax more as their source of income from the crypto world and that's why the government has started asking for the identity of all crypto businesses.

Before it was MyID and now it was EasyID but whatever term they called it, it was still the same kyc but in fairness the new name seems to be attractive. I just hope that its name is the same to what will be the process look like. I am expecting it will now be more easier to apply for this than compare to the old system.

That means this is not mandatory? So that means any kinds of people can still play gambling including the kids but pretty sure this new feature has some kind of benefits or perks like an increase in limit when betting or when depositing/withdrawing and better if they can also increase the rakes and bonus by the player who verifies his identity, like what some gambling sites are doing.

I don't see this as a welfare for the gamblers but more on the country's benefits as they can easily traced the amount of taxes that they have to collect. I guess banning of certain gamblers will be easy for them too as they can now have an access to every gambler which is contradicting to the wishes of most gamblers to remain anonymous. However, this will also help to get rid of those underage gamblers as they have to reach a legal age first before they can start gambling legally.

If not for taxes, why will they implement uid verification for a gambler who enjoys playing in his leisure time, you know some casino platforms don't request KYC before withdrawal and there are some countries who licence these platforms to operate in their jurisdiction but many of them wouldn't want to undergo verification since they don't want the government to have a cut in their winnings, smart move.  ;D ;D
I think some people may want to do this but users who know the implication of privacy dump wouldn't try it, beside it is not a compulsory task before you can engage in gambling, it may even die if it's not worldwide.

In fact, children can use cryptocurrencies and use any dark markets. Why shouldn't they use the casino and why should it be of concern (to the authorities or the casino)? As for the benefits, I doubt that they will be, this system is introduced forcibly under pain of punishment and not on a contractual basis.

If this sucks then no worries as this was only in Denmark but if this was an improvement then sorry because again this was only for Denmark :P. With something like this, they can keep out under age people that will try to gamble but for addicts, no I don't think they will stop them but they will actually like it more because that gives them income.

They don't have the right to monitor the personal health of the gambler unless maybe if the gambler is the one that consults on them saying that he has a problem in gambling. They can then help the gambler with some financial and then close his account for a certain period of time until he is ready again.

I think there will be 2 differences of opinion in responding to this policy, both are equally correct...

As a parent I support their policies, but as an anonymous I do not support them. Indeed, there is no other way that can be done to prevent a kid from playing gambling other than using the method above because if a kid is addicted to gambling then that behavior will damage the future of the child and parents are sick about it.

Oh they are coming out of Denmark? That really shows confidence when it comes to convincing investors of their moral standings, with it being EU and a very stable country. But then again not everyone who comes out of Denmark is the right person for the job. What do you think of their team members? Can they get the job done? Do they seem like they have a lot of potential? Because thats really one of the most important parts of evaluating whether the digital ID will be a flop or something that actually works.

Then there are no way to play anonymously in the gamble platform for the Denmark citizen? I think if it will apply, government will get taxes very easily and track users data at any time if any one try to hide income sources. Most important thing is can't play under 18+, but digital id verification can be hassle if privacy will not be protected.

Digital ID preventing children from playing gambling is small chance because they can still play on other site using a VPN for example or an android application, a big impact that is full of risks to gamblers if there is a data leakage, Anyway that's something must be guarded for every gambler. Tax are actually from government's top priority but Digital Id is something to be avoided, there is no security and pleasure. Gamblers are always monitored and many bad things may come in the future, because rumors of a lot government database system can always be cracked.

This is why I have never liked proposals like this, it seems people are willing to sacrifice their privacy for a false sense of security, so while I think some measures should be established to stop those which are too young from gambling doing something like is too extreme, because if people are willing to do such sacrifices for this then how much else we will have to sacrifice for something else? In my opinion there are limits to what we can accept and this goes beyond what it is acceptable to me.

it is not neccessary digital id in gambling  world, we need privacy using our money in this game but why should regulate it with ID ? gambler want spend their money in table secretly no matter they loss or win but they also want no one about him. it is not investment so digital id not correct if applied here.

Depends on someone because some couldnt take out these terms and some do really just simply go with the flow and having those common lines "what should i be afraid of?" on which there is really
some point where as long you dont hide something then sharing or complying out in terms of verification or id info then it wont really be that much of an issue.
This isnt really just too different with our casual verification nowadays in speaking with that digital ID.

We find the primary concern is to stop the underage people from gambling, but the reality is different. The measures were a beginning to end the taxation issues arising out of gambling. When KYC is done using the digital ID automatically each and every play is being monitored and based on the profit/loss one can be taxed. As mentioned this isn't mandatory which gives a relief to the gamblers.

I never read or hear something like this before but based on your post it's optional, the gambler should know the risk of being tracked, this is something I would not do, not because I don't trust my government but when it comes to gambling its different you want it to be private and you don't want your government controlling your finances which is possible if they can see how you spend money in gambling and I don't think our government will set up something like this, because of the corruption of some of our officials.

I think a digital ID is going to provide a lot of problems for enforcement agencies.  I don't see how they can tell who is the one behind the digital ID and how will they deal with compromised IDs?  I feel like this is an idea that might seem good on the surface to politicians who don't understand it, but once implemented it will likely be a massive headache that won't last more than a couple years before it's decided that it was an idea that was dead upon arrival. 

That could be a huge problem,we need to know who created and developed this digital ID, I might say that digital ID somehome can give an advantage but then it could be also a disadvantage for us, especially if this information could not be handled properly it could be dangerous, our privacy may be at risk, they could use that in illegal activities or sell it to someone wants to buy identities. If it is government related works, we still need to know the exact details of developers.

There are still means you can gamble with you having some privacy, like gambling on some gambling site on this forum, but the world is going more digital and less privacy is becoming more possible with the government perpetrating. I do not see this as a good idea but children can even be monitored, especially in a way children and teenagers can be known and stopped from gambling as it is against one of the gambling terms and conditions.

That is true. Not that in Denmark it's going to happen frequently, but I can imagine this trend reaching to another governments around the world and having their citizens creating schemes of renting, lending and manufacturing IDs to others who can't have a legit ID by themselves. Next step from governments will be to integrate a live monitoring system attached to every gamblers' devices to record their faces while they gamble, so there won't be any doubts the person gambling is the same person of the ID card.

I do not think it is about taking kids out of it. I do not think governments are run by morality. The main reason will be what dothebeats said. Government wants to make sure no tax escapes. If government wants to keep kids out of gambling, there should be law on that and it should be enforced. As kids we had our little gambling games without going on the big stage or casinos. How is government going to control street and school gambling with that if not through enforced law at those centres and not some ID thing.

I'm not sure that this will prevent children from playing gambling because they can borrow adult identities or use casinos that don't use identities such as crypto casinos that have developed rapidly.
But this method can also be applied in the casino and see how it turns out at the casino.
If this method is successfully implemented to reduce children's gambling, I think the government can enforce this rule, but I'm still not sure about crypto casinos.
But the government wants to know the players gambling in the casinos so they implement this rule in certain countries.

Looks like Denmark is trying to take more control of the gambling industry. I am wondering if this is really only protect kids from having access to casinos, or if they want to make sure that no one is cheating the government, and everybody is paying taxes.
When it comes to digital Ids I am very critical, there are two big concerns security and privacy. How easy is it copy such a digital ID and how many people have access to these information? I don't want that everybody knows where I am gambling when there are security risks. All the data will likely be stored on some government servers as well as the casino server. To be honest I would expect the casino to have higher security levels than the government. The other thing is, how easy can people fake such IDs. There are already generators online to make fake IDs. So maybe what was the fake ID 15 years ago to get alcohol and go to a club, will be the fake digital ID in today's time. If there is no missus guaranteed and the security levels are high I would go for it. And maybe the government will make it mandatory for all new casinos, then there is no more way around it.

Well this will be beneficial for regular gamblers as they will be needing this ID in most time but not for the occasional gambler as this will take their Privacy also , though this is not a Obligatory that I think Denmark is respecting their gambler and also this is a good sign how they are supporting the gambling industry in Denmark.
How I wish someday our country will have this same stand and respect for gamblers and not just a place where they collecting money .

Probably there could be another way around that the government can follow that can help kids to abstain from gambling, but I do not think there can be a way the kids can abstain from gambling except the government make ways the kids can be know, a useful one is the digital ID, though it can deprive people from privacy, but the privacy that many of us do not even have before. Only few people, like less than 1% out of 100% are still having privacy. There are many sites that are requiring for ID documents and most people are just giving it out, there is no privacy before for many people.

Wow! You reminded me of school gambling, I have just remembered my high school days, we even used solving questions to gamble, like able to solve certain number of questions and have certain number of questions answered correctly. We turn a lot to gambling. The government are not that strict to what is happening among kids so far they do not harm each other and this is not addicting.

Yes, well, but online casinos are essentially different from you gambling with your friends. They hook more and you can lose a lot more money, if you have it. Surely with your friends, you bet some change, some pocket money, but betting online you can lose a fortune. There have been cases of minors taking their parents' cards to gamble, which I don't think you did with your friends when you gambled at school.

The idea honestly looks good, but I still think it wouldn't really last. It might be for the checking identities and all of that, but said measures have already been taken in the past and nothing has really changed imo.  Underaged gambling is still possible and the first and foremost goal of these kinds of policies is to pretty much ensure that they get the money (aka taxes) from gamblers.
Probably all of the above? It's enforcing KYC more but honestly, I don't really mind when it comes to gambling, especially if it wasn't really crypto casinos (since those, I'd at least have some expectations that it isn't KYC locked, though that's like the small minority really).

These are taxes and control. I am against taxes (only casinos should pay them, not players) and even more so I am against control. But it is natural that the government has directly opposite interests. By the way, it will be interesting to see how quickly these digital IDs will leak and be sold on black markets  ;D

There will definitely be some strengths and weaknesses of the Online ID system. And I think if it has been decided that way, of course the decision is taken for the best way.
In my opinion, the advantages include making the system more integrated, sophisticated, and easy. On the other hand, of course, this also contains several weaknesses, including being vulnerable to cyber crimes. Because we know that the digital world always has loopholes for hacking or other crimes. However, if the state is ready for this, it will no longer be a problem. Later, there will definitely be an evaluation in its implementation and maybe some further developments.

My question is whether this will be effective because surely there will be a way found for those who are minors and who do not want their privacy known to be able to play gambling

if my country treats this then I will focus on playing in online casinos that don't require it (digital ID or KYC) because privacy is a valuable thing for me

What makes the casino kind of gambling different from the type of gambling we had as kids in school and on the streets is the enlarged stage of the casino. Another thing is that there is room for cheating in casinos than what kids can do. Back yard dealings from the management and among players too are common with casinos. Apart from that, gambling is gambling. Even when it is done in the church, it is still gambling. You talked about stealing credit cards to play on the casinos, lots of kids then also stole their parents' cash to gamble too.

This simply implies that no matter how hard for these things to be implemented then its never been a precise thing to get rid out of these scenarios which you had mentioned which is indeed true.
Any forms of gambling could really be done on any situations as long it do involves betting.It doesnt matter on what age range you are as long you do make out such activity then it would surely counts.
Minors could still access or  could really still play gambling if they wanted too without tagging up themselves about digital ID or something in related with this idea.

I noticed one pattern - legislative innovations are initially introduced in the Nordic countries (Finland, Sweden, Norway and Denmark).  Then these innovations are used by all other countries. 

The introduction of new digital identification rules in online casinos is a landmark event.  This is a general trend towards limiting anonymity and privacy in the virtual space.  This trend makes me sad. 

Protecting the rights of children on the Internet is (in my opinion) an excuse to fight the privacy and anonymity of Internet users.  On the one hand, states want to collect more taxes from individuals, and on the other hand, they want to control all the income and expenses of citizens. 

This is a general global trend to limit the rights and freedoms of citizens.

This will only work in a regulated environment and a lot of casinos are not regulated, so they will simply allow players without KYC requirements and underage gambling and tax evasion will still be a problem for Denmark.  ::)

The new problem will be scam casinos popping up to target those people that does not want to adhere to the KYC verification and people losing a lot of money on these scam sites. (They will have no backing for the government to protect them, so they will simply not report it)  ::)

No one knows yet if it will be effective or if there will still be abuse from minors because we know that minors can access many websites without anyone knowing. Therefore, the government needs to pay attention to this problem if they really want to know who I am playing gambling.

Maybe online casinos based on crypto will still be our goal in playing gambling because many crypto casinos do not ask their users for KYC or digital ID. Hopefully, crypto casinos will continue to provide crypto gamblers with privacy.

Fraudulent casinos have always been and will continue to exist until the casinos change their approach to securing player funds through the use of smart contract vaults.

There is no way Digital ID can protect a cheated player, but the possibility of hackers hacking into this system and sending personal user data to the black market will.

That reaction is very common but it still bothers me as some level of privacy is needed, as an example clothes are not only a fashion statement or a way to protect you from the elements, they are also a form of privacy, as you decide how much of your body you want to show to the world, and while some may be bold enough to go naked many others will never do something so daring, imagine if at some point in order to improve the security governments forced people to go naked? And people simply used the same argument they got nothing to hide and as such they can accept such policy, the rest of the population will oppose it not because they are doing something wrong but just because the thought of going naked is inconceivable for them, and while the example I am giving is kind of extreme that is the way many feel about losing their privacy online.

I think the same, I don't know if the Danes put their total trust in their government, maybe they have a different perception of their government, because in the country I'm in nobody trusts banking systems and even less the government, if many miners don't even register with an organization that the government created, because the government takes their machines to use them for themselves, so in gambling much less, I think it is the type of culture that influences here to be able to do all this, in most of their countries they do not trust their governments, I know that the Nordic countries, in Switzerland and those countries have more confidence in their banking systems and from what I see of government, which is respected, but privacy and anonymity is sometimes important to maintain.

If the gambling addiction for kids is worse in the said country, then it's a good move for the government to control it. If it could save the younger generation then implementing it will be an effective idea but the hard part is all gamblers should submit to it. The government can track gamblers by implementing this since they could have all the details. It will affect the privacy that most gamblers want so I don't think everyone will agree to it.

The problem is that by using digital ID there are chances of identity theft. Since the IDs will be stored online it might become vulnerable to hackers.
They must have high security on their site if not the outcomes might be disastrous.
Further more, using digital ID the government will be easily tracing the users for how much they gamble.
So that is kind of a privacy issue and the governments can very well take advantage of it.
The only useful thing that I find using digital ID is that it will restrict children under 18 from gambling.
May be if the government put a certain restriction on people from over gambling then may be that can help.

In the name of an incomprehensible "danger" for children under the age of 18, the rights of adults are being destroyed as always  ::)
By the way, I'm wondering if the ID system works, but at one fine moment the corrupt government shows "evidence" that the opposition politician is an avid gambler and lost millions, despite the fact that his official income is much less than these figures. How can you prove that he did not do this if the ID is, as it were, separated from the person but 100% certifies the person in the casino?

I also hold the same opinion, but when people on their own reveal way more information than any KYC policy every day through social media then it is natural they do not think anything about those measures at all, since they are used to give all of that information away on their own, so when we have a great deal of people which do not understand the concept of privacy anymore then it is almost impossible to convince them about why such a thing is important.

It's the same as kyc but indeed, they do a great job of protecting their kids from getting the right age to gamble. But in the end, the online world will not be easy to control, even if they require digital ID or whatever to limit the age is ultimately less effective too. Because these online users can access whatever they want and don't care about the rules, unless they have a high awareness not to start because the right rule is to make them aware of the good and bad of gambling and guidance for the right age for gambling itself.

At some point i agree with this part too this will limit the number of players which is not part of the legal age we know that it is not quiet secured in the gambling in terms of playing of 18 below because mostly it is a textbox that we are agreeing that we are 18 even not we cannot deny it and this KYC implemented is ideal too but it depends now in the player if they are willingly let their information give to the gambling platform itself.

The online world who doesn't like KYC or digital ID will keep trying to provide something or a website that doesn't require KYC because they understand the market's will to remain anonymous. I think this will run concurrently and the user will be given two choices: to use KYC or stay anonymous. But I'm not sure this will protect 100% of children from all negative things like gambling, sex, or anything illegal because the online world is a world without borders.

looking at the sophistication that continues to emerge today, makes me feel that the rules made to tighten the age of gamblers will not be 100% effective...

kids will continue to find other new ways to pass age verification when it is required on the gambling sites that they usually play. usually by buying someone else's identity (I'm sure in many cities there are still many people who are willing to sell their identity just for money). but I still hope that the rules that continue to be made to limit the age of gamblers can be effective in reducing the number of underage gamblers.

Proving that the ID belongs to that person in the casino is another thing but proving that the money was deposited by the same person is where the evidence lies.
The source of depositing the money into the casino will show us whether the money belongs to that person or not.
He can simply get away by telling that he did not deposit the money by himself provided the fact that the money is still there in his gambling account and he did not use it for gambling.

If this kind of thing is supported by the country i guess it depends on the player now if they will play with those gambling websites or not still at the end of the day is the decision of the player if they want to choose between with KYC or not. Also some of the platform using the KYC because of the authenticity of the player and at the same time preventing suspicious activity of having a multiple account like abusing the promo events.

Most online casinos (at least those that I know and those that I deal with) now have the option of depositing an account through cryptocurrency. Taking into account the fact that not all addresses are 100% tracked, anonymous depositing funds to the account is quite possible. The most difficult thing in this scheme is linking the ID to the individual, but when the state controls this system, it is easy for them to implement such an algorithm.

In this case it really depends on what the evidence actually is. If the evidence is valid then yes it will be easier for the government to prove that the person is involved in money laundering.
But if the person is actually not aware and if the government is planting the whole thing out then there should definitely be a way to prove the person not guilty.
Anyway, it depends on us how we use the digital ID. For some it might be a good thing while for some it might be bad.
Other than that, there are always other casinos where KYC is not mandatory so people can just use those if they don't want to use this feature.

When an ID exists, it makes it harder for a person to prove their innocence. It's one thing when we personally sign a document, and another thing when we first agree to "digitize" our personality, and then try to prove that we didn't use it. In any case, I do not see anything useful in this ID for ordinary users, only an increase in risks and a decrease in privacy.

However while it is true that we still have the freedom of choosing a casino which does not force you to go through KYC, can you imagine how bad things would be if bitcoin did not existed? I do not know of any fiat casino which allows something like that, and apparently things are even worse at Denmark with this digital ID, if it was not because of bitcoin and this market in general there will not be a way to gamble anywhere without having to reveal your identity, and considering the bad reputation gamblers have in some countries this could be incredibly problematic, which is why I am against draconian regulations like this one.

Same thing happens when a terrorist deposits money into your bank account or money involved in illegal activities gets deposited to your bank account.
The best thing for a person to do in such a situation would be not to touch the money and file a police complaint by himself.
Similarly, in a gambling site, if someone is trying to frame the person he can simply not touch the account and inform the police about the same.

I believe by making a new rule like that to limit underage players, and maybe it will be taxed for each player. 
regardless of whether the regulations are good or bad, they will only make it more complicated for users of online gambling services.  The problem that will be very bad is when the players' personal data will be misused

Adding tax can be an effective way not only for the minors but also for the general age to stop gambling. Most of them only gamble to have fun but if they will be charge big due to tax, I don't think they will have the motivation or interest to gamble anymore. Some forms of regulations might be good if ever there are others, other than the idea of taxing it.

There are many crypto gambling sites that are now regulated but I don't know if this really feels complicated or not since there's still many gamblers who continue's to bet on those site's but complications were mostly feel at the start or during when you sign up because you might be required for a kyc but after it, you can now login easily.

Your last statement is the real problem with those measures, governments pass all kind of laws that make it seems as if they are never going to get hacked and ask for all kind of information to be given up by their citizens, but anyone that has ever used a computer knows how easy it is to get a virus so we know that the security online is nowhere near as tight as they want to makes use believe, and as such there is a real chance that data is eventually stolen and then there is nothing we can do to get it back.

Hopefully, the personal data of the players will not be misused by the regulators because they hold all the important data of the players.
Maybe the new rules need time to work properly and the restrictions on underage players depend on how parents can supervise their children who use internet access.
If gambling becomes more popular and more people are involved in gambling, there is a possibility that taxes will be applied so that it will become a new source of income for the state.
Hopefully, the regulations made by the government do not complicate online gambling users and other businesses.

I think it's better, overall. Pros and cons like all discussed but there are a LOT of predatory online casinos that specifically target kids. I used to see in past years ads on all my mobile aps, all showing young kids gambling at slots and casinos and supposedly winning 100k.

Those ads are gone now I think good riddance but the thing is kids are exposed to a lot of shit these days and if an ID will help prevent that, good.

I mean, if you care about privacy you're gambling crypto anyway.

These days, even teenagers know how to use a VPN, so the introduction of digital IDs for gambling just makes no sense. They can easily register at a gambling site that does not require these innovations and play there. So I think that a waste of budget money or this initiative has deeper motives aimed at the interests of the state and the protection of children is only a reason to push this initiative among the public.

The underage people is the responsibilty of the parent or the adult around them,so why we must risk our privacy for them.Maybe it's good on the surface,but if there are loses that happen because of leaked personal info,who's gonna take responsibility?

True that. These kinds of methods not only serve to well, avoid the issue they were supposed to actually fix, they just give more control to the government and add more excuses for them to get the data of users and tax them more. Basically moving in a more centralized way. I'm not actually fully against it, it's just that the method they employ right now is only serving their pockets and not really us users. Not to mention, as you have said, their security that can barely be called one imo.

I think that governments are taking advantage of entering people's privacy using the most vulnerable possible excuses of "protection", I respect everything that has to do with security, but I know that trusting governments or banks is suicide, they they want to have total control over people, make sure that no one has their privacy, see and track all the operations that have to do with money, how many people move money and why they move those amounts, I think that will be a trap to apply all the acid in the future, of course as I said before, these are my thoughts.


In some way, the government or governments always try to establish control by looking for excuses that they cannot be opposed, in part they are very clever when using sensitive things, such as children, among others, this has always existed.

Well that's what we're afraid of with the data we provide being misused that is sold on the black market even though it's impossible but at least the concern is always there.
With this process, there are still pros and cons whether many agree to this regulation or only some casinos are watching from child players, so it is important to do it, it will still be a long process, it is also necessary whether this will be efficient or just complicate it.

But we can't deny that there are still many child gamblers who do that, even though online gambling is getting easier for them to do.

Correct!
Minors are all under the responsibility of the parents.

Now, that's actually crazy. By using your ID just to play on that specific gambling website is not only your gambling with money but you're also gambling with your identity on the line.
I guess KYC was never enough for them right? Lol

you are on point indecencies that digital gambling is not going to help for anything in gambling. Every teenager currently have is now a computerized and they know all the functions of system, so nothing we can hide from them. Using digital ID is like making gambling very easy for those we are preventing or protecting not know gambling will just know better than those who played manual or through centers. Stopping teenager not to play gamble is assignment or function of parents by giving children the disadvantages of playing gamble and the damage it will caused.information is what teenager's needs to build up with. You see that so many of them will desist from gamble and remove their intentions over there

I completely agree. This is another attempt by the government to control people and know their habits. They aren't doing it to protect young people or anything like that. They are doing it for the same reason why they're trying to launch CBDCs, which is to know your every move and be able to ban you from services with a click of a mouse. Once you're in their system they are going to know where you registered, where you paid, how much, at what time of the day... You're going to take a day off, call in sick at work, they are going to know if you're really sick by having access to your payments and online uses of your ID. Fueled your car and then gambled in the evening? Your employer will know you were bullshitting about being sick ;)

Yes , because there's no way we can exclude minors from gambling aside from KYC but again they are minors, there's no way we can know that they are minor without accessing mic and camera of the device they are using  but it is against the cyber security law, so therefore the only way is by their parents guidance, people nowadays know how to use internet and access different sites , a parents advice is still powerful even we have a different norms and environment.

Somehow it has good advantage since it would lessen the cases if not stopped on the minors that continue to gamble without their parents' consent. They can focus more on their studies than giving most of their time to gambling activities. However, the privacy of each gambler may also be at stake since its going to ask for personal details of each gambler and there is no way you can avoid paying taxes for that. Honestly, this still falls for government taking advantage on the gamblers' profits.

For those who directly legitimize gambling, this is an upgraded system where they can get more tracks or other benefits from the government of that particular country. One more thing that can be done here is to prevent underage people from running away. Only licensees can avail this facility. However, privacy issues can be a bit confusing.

For this reason, we must be very careful in providing our data and always select it before giving it to third parties.
Of course, there will be pros and cons of casinos that will implement digital casino IDs and even parents whose children are involved in gambling.
But what is clear, when it comes to underage children involved in gambling, it will require the role of parents who can always supervise their children.
But at least, digital ID is expected to limit underage children's space and movement to playing gambling, although, in reality, this is not the case.

Prevention is better. For sure I knew how to use VPNs but we are talking now also about sites that aren't crypto but don't do KYC right? And if these sites try to lure kids, they still have to use their debit/credit card to deposit, and if you instal digital IDs that need verification when paying by debit card at gambling sites, the block is there.

It's not just about VPNs or access it's the requirement on cards and payments to allow these IDs first to even be able to pay.

Yes ofcourse, the governments are already doing that by implementing mandatory KYC for bank accounts.
So in a way, they are already tracking us and what we do with our money.
Cryptocurrency is the only way to get out of this trap yet people are not willing to adopt cryptocurrencies.
People are getting used to the comfort of fiat currencies giving away their control over their money instead of owning their money by having an initial struggle to control it.

I guess that it is absolutely a good idea, this could help to keep kids outside of this world, and also to keep away scammers and person which can't play in "normal way" like a normal player. Hope that this system will be

adopted in every country in way to let players play in the most transparent and safe way.

Gamblers will always want to be anonymous as much as they want but i guess its not the case anymore, the government will always see to it that their identities can be traceable and so this digital ID for gambling is one way to take away their privacy as they are now obliged to pay taxes in every profit they make. However, this digital ID aims also to prevent those minors from continuous engaging in gambling as they should be in school studying instead and not utilizing most of their time in online gambling. Parents are certainly responsible for this and they should always be the one guiding their children not to be misled and end up in gambling addiction.

If it's a system that works well for them, the other countries will look at it and will try to apply it as much as they can and will have the idea that it works as well as it is.
But not every country would apply this type of system because the reality is that there are some countries that have been making more money with gambling and they wouldn't restrict it to anyone.

Using a VPN on any website that demands KYC is just asking to be banned and have your funds frozen.

Although personally, I am all for greater security and anonymity, I would probably not want to risk it. No matter how sure of yourself you seem, I am certain a VPN can be sometimes detected. And while your IP is safe from prying eyes (unless you break laws), I do not think the IP of a VPN is all that unknown.

Digital ID's are completely redundant though. Except for the people who don't mind doing KYC in the first place... Honestly I would rather have a Digital ID rather than have to provide my personal documents to every single website that asks for KYC.

If you use a free or paid VPN that offers all of its customers the same IP address, then sooner or later you will obviously fall under a ban. But if you use your own personal VPN which runs on a rented server with a static IP address, the probability of being banned is significantly reduced.

I do not deposit large sums to gambling sites so even if such a situation arises I am not very upset.

The more the technology moves forward the more the present and the future resemble a dystopian novel in which there is no freedom at all, this is why bitcoin is so important as it gives us back some of that freedom that has been lost during the last decades, however governments are trying their best to stop bitcoin from achieving this with all their regulations, however as people get tired of getting tracked every single day of their lives, like it is the case with this unnecessary gambling ID, I think we are bound to see in the future more people looking to use bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies to protect their privacy.

Maybe their protocol has changed that much and the governments are forcing them to get them identified so these sites don't have much of a choice. But I agree, that these underaged kids do still fall under their parent's responsibilities and they are liable for that. The thing is that sometimes these underaged kids are much more knowledgeable about the internet than their parents.

The problem is that people prefer not responsibility (bitcoin and the need to store their keys) but trust in a third party - the state (which means KYC and storage of funds and other things not with themselves but with third parties who have a license from the state). Unfortunately, the stratum of ideological people is very small and government pressure on cryptocurrencies is experiencing very little resistance.

Yes, that's why I think that one way to escape all control is with privacy coins, I really have a very clear criteria about crypto, firstly BTC, then my taste is with ETH and Monero, this is simple, ETH it is considered the second best coin and Monero is for the privacy and anonymity it can offer.

If casinos started to offer games with this currency, allowing deposits and withdrawals through it and with records that are somewhat less rigorous in terms of KYC, I think it could become a leading platform, because for now there is a lot of talk about adoption, but when it happens, which is already a fact, the problem of being anonymous and seeking more privacy will begin.

That's why cryptocurrencies are created in the 1st place, it gives us another option than just relying upon the fiats alone that the government is controlling. The government surely doesn't want crypto even if it had many benefits and all which is already a fact because of the anonymity it could bring and they couldn't trace people in this industry that's why KYC has been present on the platforms.

But do you think if the technology didn't advanced this much, bitcoin will ever be created? No I don't think so and bitcoin is a decentralized coin which can give its user a freedom to transact whenever they want so we still need to be thankful that the technology revolves faster.

This also allows for more new additions in crypto like nft and metaverse however there is still one problem for us bitcoin users and that is like you said government regulations but I think some of them do also have a good intention like they only want to protect the people that use bitcoin and not to track them or try to control bitcoin. It is still optional though as there are still platforms which don't require a kyc.

Without a doubt this is a big problem and I would say it is the main obstacle against massive adoption as people think it is easier to give their freedoms away to a third party, however the good news is that slowly but surely we are reaching the limits of the current economic system and once it collapses, even if it takes a few decades for this to happen, people will see the horrible consequences of giving their freedoms and power away to the governments, that is when I expect a big backlash to happen, at that point people will not really adopt bitcoin out of some ideological change of heart but out of pure opportunism and self-interest, which is a language every single human being understands way better than any ideology.

In some way, governments want to take over a part of gambling, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, they do not want to lose control, in order not to lose it, they have certain licenses in their possession, certain treaties that make KYC exist, of course in an intelligent way They get in saying that for the protection of the player and so that they are not scammed, but we all know that the true intention is to know which people handle crypto and how much, if KYC did not exist, it would be more difficult for them, it is because of them that even if casinos implemented Monero transactions it would be a bit more tedious for governments to find out.

Technology itself is constantly evolving and will help us in our daily life. And related to bitcoin, it helps us to be able to transact without third parties but it also depends on how bitcoin is accepted in our place.

But for the gambling business, the government wants to know the identity of people who often play gambling by asking for their identity from the casino. This is not fun for crypto casino gamblers as many don't want to do KYC.

In my opinion, the regulation of the cryptocurrency market will not lead to anything good. All these regulators are not able to protect people in the usual financial market, and you want them to protect us in the world of cryptocurrencies. In my opinion, regulation is an attempt to tweak cryptocurrencies to fit the financial system and that's what Satoshi didn't want. As long as your private keys are in your possession you can do without any regulators.

I agree that using VPNs for large sums of money when gambling is very risky. If the casinos find it out (what they mostly likely will if you gamble there long enough) then all your money and winnings are lost. For me the risk is too high and I would rather use a casino that is allowed in my country than a VPN. The digital ID could be a way to get rid of the KYC processes many casinos require us to do and standardize the registration at casinos. When it comes to showing a digital ID to a casino to verify yourself it sounds like a good idea that can prevent misuse in the future. This would also take some of the negative press out of gambling that it is being used to launder money by some criminals. The big problem with digital IDs is how the data is being stored and who can access it. I think that most gamblers are affraid of identify theft when it comes to sharing all the personal information online.

Their goal for regulating crypto is to find out the people behind crypto so they can control it and suppress it if they cross the restrictions set by the government. Maybe the government needs to give freedom to its citizens to remain in privacy so that citizens can see that the government cares about their privacy. In this way, citizens can begin to believe that the government's goal is to know which citizens are using cryptocurrencies and give citizens the freedom to maintain their privacy.

It seems to me that there is a more global problem here than a loss of privacy... Many people just don't care if they leave their identity anywhere, whether it's in an online casino or just a survey on the street... Most people have no problem showing their IDs online... The problem is that governments want to know everything there is to know about us, they want to track all our steps and actions... In all cities, there are video cameras every 10 meters... In the underground, in the shops... Soon the fantasy stories of the last century will become reality, and that's going to be a really huge problem...

I wonder how you can use a casino without KYC for money laundering? The criminal cannot say to the tax office "I won this money at the casino" because he will not have evidence (there is no KYC). But on the other hand, he can easily launder money in a casino with KYC - in one casino he bets on one tennis player, in another on his opponent, and in the end he gets clean money. It turns out that just those casinos that require KYC help in money laundering.

Considering how so much of the world is now performing all sorts of important and sensitive activities online, it seems almost inevitable that each country will roll out a form of digital identity document eventually. Maybe even some version of a passport, based on a blockchain like technology that would be infallible to forgery. It depends on your view of privacy and many people/governments might not like having a transparent online equivalent service, but it'd be nice if it was equalized across all countries. Many people have actually pushed back against such individual identity documents, which doesn't make that much sense when you consider there are databases of drivers licenses and passport offices already out there.

The database of drivers license and passports are just identity, what governments need now is to get as much money as posible Your properties and bank balances is what they wanted to know and so are the cryptocurrencies you hide.

They wanna know what you have. The farmers in Denmark has issues about this already which they did protest just days ago.
What the WEF meeting is coming true that we the people will soon own nothing and be happy with it.

No state can ensure the financial freedom of its citizens because it contradicts the goals of ensuring the security and value of the state currency. Nowadays, the SEC has very powerful levers to fight against crypto projects they do not like. To understand this, one can look at private cryptocurrencies, which many exchanges exclude from available for trading assets.

In some way, governments want to take over a part of gambling, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies, they do not want to lose control, in order not to lose it, they have certain licenses in their possession, certain treaties that make KYC exist, of course in an intelligent way They get in saying that for the protection of the player and so that they are not scammed, but we all know that the true intention is to know which people handle crypto and how much, if KYC did not exist, it would be more difficult for them, it is because of them that even if casinos implemented Monero transactions it would be a bit more tedious for governments to find out.

The story with farmers is 100% the same as the story with nuclear power plants in Germany - they closed them and now in Germany the price of electricity has risen to record levels (it seems ten times in a year). If farmers fail to defend their rights, then after the destruction of the "extra" cows, we will face a similar increase in prices for milk and meat. This is very similar to the plan that the WEF has been trying to implement for a long time - for people to eat artificial meat and bugs.

I hadn't heard the story about the farmers, I need to read about it.

In my opinion all this digital ID is a kind of introduction of new measures that are designed to bring total control of humanity into our world. Naturally it is all done under the guise of improvements to make our lives safer, but in fact governments and corporations are collecting more and more of our personal data. I am well aware that in the long run this cannot be avoided, but I am frightened by the constant database leaks that are occurring more and more often.

It's more like they are getting 2 benefits at the same time by implementing KYC details.
They can track their customers holdings as well as restrict people from entering into certain crypto platforms.
No doubt they hate monero since it disrupts all their plans.

Yes, and that is something that I have always wondered, because what would happen if a casino offers transactions with Monero? obviously it would be the target of all the organizations, I think they could suffer from certain accusations, such as money laundering, illicit money, money for drugs, among others, I think these could be the accusations that they could make against the casinos, although it could bring many customers without a doubt if they offer total discretion and total privacy, it would be one of the most sought after casinos by players, even some whales could go and stay there because I'm sure that will be the trend once adoption is achieved crypto.

The government's curiosity to find out how much wealth its citizens have is getting higher and as technology is developed, they can easily investigate someone's account.
Only by using SIM data, passports, or other identities, they can connect to all the resources they have so they can get complete data about a person.
This is why in many countries, citizens are required to pay taxes based on the source of their income and the results of their wealth.
And maybe this is why the cryptocurrency is the choice for people who have a lot of money so that the government can't track how much their real wealth is if they have cryptocurrency in their separate wallets.

The problem is not at all in taxes (which are actually necessary and useful if they are of an adequate size) but in total control. If earlier you had some kind of right by default, now you have to prove everywhere that you have it. For example, in Russia, a FanID system was introduced for football fans. It is obvious that there is no connection with taxes, but only with total control. Gambling ID has the same meaning even if it is introduced under the pretext of restricting gambling for children or under the pretext of combating money laundering.

There were casinos that intentionally mentioned the use of privacy coins at their launch, and even that didn't secure them the player base that you are mentioning because people are focused more on established casinos that already has a name on the industry. People are fine using the traditional cryptocurrencies as is even without the added layer of protection, so long as there are no KYC involved in the platform itself. Ever wonder why there are no successful privacy-centric casinos that mainly focuses on privacy coins? Because they tend to forget that gamblers go to the platform to play and not to be "extra safe" that they neglect improving what they offer and focused on security and privacy instead.

I see that most forum members are worried about privacy issues behind this decision. Although in many countries you need to add your many detailed information to online gambling websites to start gambling. It is government forced situation to companies and people are used to it. I am not very sure with USA or Canada or UK but this was like a norm. I think its something understandable, and not very bad thing.

Since Satoshi  created bitcoin and this forum, majority of the members of this forum have much interest in privacy. Satoshi make us to understand why privacy is important especially when you don't trust your government.
Apart from people that knows about bitcoin and privacy, you can easily see people giving out their personal information for any casino or online based platform. Even if you are not a bad person you still need to protect your online identity.

This database appears to be too centralized as if someone were completing an ID as a citizen of the country. I worry that if my name is requested, I will be identified as a gambler. In my opinion, this doesn't look cool in my opinion, what about those who want to gamble but don't want people to know they bet for a living? We should all have the freedom to do anything we want without having our privacy violated in the process.

The offline Casino is different in this case, your ID will be required so that they know who is who and who they are offering service for in their casino, not as if they will make a card for you except for VVIP tickets that differentiate you from other players.

For most of the Bitcointalk forum visitors who witnessed the launch of gambling platforms since they registered on the forum, what they fear most is that there will be a change in the policy of the platform on which they register their accounts at the beginning of the launch with promises from it that it will preserve their privacy and then after a period of time they start violating the privacy users in different ways.
Very few platforms are fair from the start, and most of them want to bring in the largest number of users from the beginning, and then when users deposit their money on the platform, the privacy policy changes.

I understand concerns, I am sort of open on online myself as when you give one hole on internet, people can reach out nearly all of your personal information. Privacy is obviously important people who ALWAYS stay anon. If gambling website clearly states that their number one priority is to protect customers, and later they betray users, its definitely uncomfortable. But I feel like all states (except some tax havens) will start to ask personal info from gambling websites.

First time I hear about this. Do offline casinos require an ID? I understand when they doubt the age of a visitor and ask to see documents, but ask for documents from everyone in a row and find out who is who? Maybe it works for certain countries or even for certain casinos (which work on a club system or something like that).

Nowadays people are using the identification to create an account if the purpose is for the government use i guess nothing worry because it is part of the economy but if you will your details in an unknown person which is possible use into the different way such as an identity theft that cause trouble to the real person with that identity in the future the same way in the gambling that's why there's a law regarding with the data privacy act they must need to fill up or agree first before proceeding but most of the gambling platform today now are trying to push the KYC and of course some them don't want to show up their real identity in the public.

I am not surprised about this because the government always look for a way to make sure that all citizens pays there tax and therefore many gamblers had been outsmarting the government during task payment and for them to imposed the digital identity, it is to give accountability of every gamblers and their gambling activities. One of the reason why this is so is to reduce the number of under aged gamblers. With your identity, you will be able to gambler online and the government will know how to get you accountable during task.

Is there an update about this now after being posted few months ago?
There are also some that do like the idea because it will prevent the kids and teenagers to get inside any casino premise. Looking at that positive thought, there's still a lot of issues and concerns towards this. But if it's the government implementing this, is there any way of preventing it to happen? I don't think that there is, it's part of progress and it's not just all about gambling. If the government say so, everyone will just have to obey.
Yeah, sure this is another way to track and monitor everyone for taxation. There's certainly pros and cons about it and it's on your perspective on where you'll look at.

But we know that people wont really be seeing this to be appealing specially into those people who do value out much about anonymity then this wont really be an option or something that they would agree on and

even myself doesnt really look for this thing to be that good yet even how strict they would be in terms of avoiding minors to play but with todays era and tech then it is really not 100% that they could get rid of it.

Digital ID or anything that do relates with exposing your identity isnt really that good to look at but if it turns out to be mandatory then you wouldnt really be having no choice but to comply
but as possible then you would definitely be avoiding this as much as you could.

How is it going to stop "kids" from gambling? If the kids were able to gamble before in casinos that needed to pass identity verification, then how is this going to be any different? The kids will still somehow find a way to gamble with or without that "digital gambling ID". This won't stop anything. Just another excuse by the government to make sure they can keep a better eye on their citizens and they pay their due taxes properly. Nothing to do with kids and gambling.

Maybe this was the reason why many crypto casinos don't have a monero coin as one of their supported cryptos even on a fully decentralized platform. As long as the casino is legit and not a scam I think that they won't also allow such illegalities happening on their website. That is why casinos that I am using right now have a rule like you need to wager a certain amount before you can be able to withdraw what you have deposited and also to be able to tip someone.

There are those casinos which demand a kyc as well. Even without a total discretion we can see that a lot of crypto casinos are still booming as there are other features which can attract gamblers to play on them.

Exactly, privacy-focused cryptocurrencies will never be listed in countries that have strong regulation over exchanges and cassinos.
In Brazil, for example, it's also like this... nobody finds Monero on exchanges (all casinos are already banned there).
Monero is a currency that follows the essence of decentralization of cryptocurrencies, it is a cryptocurrency that was created to be exchanged on P2P, not on exchanges.
The only good reason I see for listing Monero on an exchange is that it allows for larger exchange pairs and widespread use.

With digital gambling IDs that limit a certain age to enter gambling places, I think it can suppress children from entering gambling places, but when they manipulate their age, nothing can stop them, even though the government's efforts are very high to ban gambling. will not work because there are still many ways to access gambling places.

But then why are monero holders not using these privacy focused casinos or no KYC casinos which accepts monero.
I think those people are holding monero because of it's privacy and I have seen that monero is also used on the dark web.
So many people must be holding monero and in that case they can use the coins on these casinos right ?
This should have triggered a large user base for such privacy focused casinos in my perspective.

That's the problem even though as free citizens, we can hide what doesn't need to be disclosed to the government because it is our right.
But back to the rules, they made that make us unable to do anything because we live under their rule.
The pretext for limiting gambling to children and fighting money laundering is good.
Still, it does seem like the government wants to know everything about its citizens, including the wealth of every citizen.
But if the digital ID is really applied to limit gambling for children and fight money laundering, it shouldn't go to the extent of investigating the property of someone who gambles.

I absolutely agree with you. Many kids are so creative that they can easily register an account with their parents, use a VPN or play on gambling sites that do not require proof of identity.

Nowadays it is very difficult to limit children from gambling, so digital ID is a useless thing in terms of protection, but as a collection of information when used by adults this tool is quite suitable.

If this kind of thing happens there's a verification purpose happens every time an account makes an activity which is like a sending of information to make a verification, if the casino just have the OTP it is easier to the kids to get the email and login and get the code but if the user has another verification like the question that the owner of the account only know what is the answer there's a chance that they can prevent those kids to play most of the digital devices today have their own kid protection and it is good to use this kind of feature.

There are still pages for poker players that can track your playing habits and winnings just by knowing your nickname, this is somewhat prohibited in certain casinos.

 Gambling ID?  It is something that seeks to make it normal and legal, if you think that your gambling habits and earnings are not tracked in certain countries, you are wrong.

 The protection of minors is the excuse to make Legal something that they already do, although Denmark is a country that has a history of digitizing any activity and has a good excuse like that, in some cases they may not know who it is the individual but the nickname and avatar have their ID.

I don't agree with you. As long as we have the ability to use a VPN, play on gaming sites that do not require KYC and that accept deposit in cryptocurrencies we can stay away from the eyes of observers and the government. So currently we have all the tools we need to remain anonymous.

As for digital ID, I totally agree with you.

Yes, of course, but you don't have to be a fortune teller that in the very near future cryptocurrencies, and especially BTC, will be the currency that everyone will use, and obviously they will put more magnifying glass on casinos, and if they are online with more reason , so I think that people will look for privacy and anonymity at all costs, for everyone it will be as a necessity not to be tracked by their own governments, governments will see crypto as money laundering, illicit acts and all those things that are usually invent to manipulate, then those casinos that offer more privacy will be the top at the moment, I would like to see one day stake.com, bitcasino.io, among others that are the best, that integrate ZCASH, Monero, and possible tokens that are of privacy, I am sure they will continue to be number 1.

I try to understand the goals and advantages, Denmark requires gambling bettors to do NemID to MitID, and I understand the essence of Denmark in the requirements regarding ID.

NemID to MitID explanation:
From NemID to MitID: All You Need to Know. (https://penneo.com/blog/nemid-to-mitid/)

In the quote above, I can conclude that the ID rule, From NemID to MitID, does not seem to apply only to gambling websites, almost all sectors, businesses, private sector and government must carry out digital data collection, This has been planned in advance for the safety of the Danish authorities, the conclusion of the ID being discussed is that it is specifically for the Danish country, like it or not, you have to do digital data collection, this is a different story from other countries, I think it only applies to the Danish community only ID in gambling.

I understand your concerns, being tracked online and having other people accessing our gambling habits is scary. We don't know how secure that data is being stored. Is our data only used for tax purposes, or can others evaluate that data and get an advantage over us. It's not only about being afraid of scammers and other criminals gaining access to our personal data. If our gambling habits will be public and others can access it based on our nickname it becomes dangerous for us. Like that could Poker players get a lot of information about their opponents and use it to get an edge. I am for protecting minors from gambling, and maybe a gambling ID helps to shed a more positive light on the gambling industry. But the safety of our personal information needs to be guaranteed.

- Maybe, we can't blame others for being worried because they think maybe their private information might be sold to others who can make money from it. But for me, if a gambling site submits something like this, it is also for the security of a gambler who plays on a gambling platform, and you are right, there is nothing wrong with asking them. And this is normal for a regulated online gambling platform to do.

- I just hope that others don't make it an issue that is too malicious with these trends of gambling in this industry if it is also for the safety of the assets that they have in gambling.

i agree that gambling uses ID to get rid of children from gambling and save their lives.
however, the problem is that if you create a gambling ID, you end up having to risk your identity card even though gamblers out there play online gambling because they want to eliminate the trail so that no one knows that they like to gamble. if you create a gambling ID and have to risk KYC there will probably be a lot of gamblers who don't agree

KYC is an option and for those who don't like KYC, there are currently many crypto gambling sites that offer users no KYC

but for me personally who is not that problem with KYC, a digital ID will help save minors from gambling, so that their learning period is not disturbed by gambling which can harm their mindset

From the government point of view this sounds like a good idea, as some of you have alreadysuggested this does not only restrict access to glambing to children but also it is a measure against tax evasion and money laundry.

However, when comes to preventing children from gambling this ID will not be an ultimate solution, people tend to underestimate kids and teen's intellegence when comes to avoid filters and rules. Will this ID prevent teens from using a VPN and signing up on KYC-free gambling websites? I doubt it.

Not mentioning the fact this could be also an attack against one's privacy.

bottomline, it depends on the user where he will sign up to play. nowadays, there are many casinos especially crypto casinos that are not requiring kyc from their customers. so they have the option not to go to online casino which requires their identity. however, the move of their government is also beneficial to them, as they will have data for tax purposes or possible money laundering activities.but if you will launder money, i don't think you will submit your identity, right?

Exactly, this is not a solution considering how huge scams to be perpetuating anywhere like manifestation of documents. This can be easily access with just people who are willing to get paid for such kind of activity. The solution is starts in the home, parents should monitor their child/ren, if there's something weird going on they should be the one to know that.

It's a bit of a negative way to look at it and is not even true in all cases, there are certain countries out there which do not tax gambling winnings paid out to players. They will tax the gambling companies heavily in corporation tax but besides that do not take a share - look at the United Kingdom for an example of this. It's a tricky scenario and this sort of thing would have gotten a lot more push back in the past, but the trend is heavily moving online, as long as it has good enough security and privacy considerations then it seems fair as an optional service. It could even cut out a lot of unnecessary costs of manufacturing physical cards, as long as the digital version could be properly validated.

Children today are very creative, and parents will find it difficult to supervise their children, although I refuse and don't like KYC but to minimize underage registration I think facial recognition is something that must be developed, in some countries it is more effective, despite many rejections from parties who don't want their faces exposed.

That's what I think, too. Today's generation of teenagers understand a lot of things better than those who make these laws. Whoever wants to gamble will find a way to do so without using a digital ID. That goes for adults as well as children. That's why I think the introduction of digital ID in gambling is primarily a violation of the privacy of gamblers.

They would not if they could avoid it and mafias are powerful enough to get forged documents and even bribe authorities this must be a measure to control the common citizen and monitor their finances.
I wonder whether credit providers and banks in Denmark will have access to a list of gamblers thanks to this new ID, if so they may reduce people's credit store just because having such ID.


It is just my personal opinion, but I would say that good pareting is harder to find nowadays, sadly we have a many parents that allow their children to by raised by social media, like Tik Tok and Youtube, most of the results we have already seen them on the news.



I would dare to say some lawmakers are so out of touch that they believe that only by making laws, these can be magically enforced. Teens are legally forbidden to buy tobacco and alcohol and they find a way to get it anyways, getting these products is a process which must be done in the real world face-to-face black marketing.

Now imagine how they are supposed to enforce this if people can access gambling from their homes and shielded behind a computer screen.

As I said before, I wonder whether banks and creditors will have access to a list of citizens which hold such ID.

I agree into this one, this do really mainly violates about privacy and if ever government do really impose such rule or imply or integrate such changes then there's nothing we can do since those platforms are centralized then they would really be applying those things if they do still want for their business to continue to run which users wont really be having no choice if those changes would be made
but we know that there are lots of various ways which we could still able to play without having these things to be complied.It is true that we do always prefer on being anonymous on everything
that we are engaging into and having that digital ID would really be a big NO-NO for everyone.