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Title: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: Cryptornd on June 24, 2022, 01:11:21 PM
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Best wallets For Bitcoin Lightning network

If you don't know what bitcoin lightning network is Check simple explain Below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403508.msg60413001#msg60413001

lightning network isn't compatible with every crypto Wallets. Here are the Best wallets.


1. Phoenix wallet

A native lightning wallet That doesn't use on chain transactions And it handles All Behind the scenes such as opening and closing payment channels. offensive users easy to use lightning wallet experience . This app currently support on android only.

https://phoenix.acinq.co/


2. blue wallet

This application supports both of android and iOS OS. you can connect your node with bluewallet. bluewallet was introduced to have zero- configuration LN transactions to Both of android and ios. they try to make BTC easy for new users .bluewallet features like bittefill, zigzag , yalls and many more....

https://bluewallet.io/

3. Breeze..

Breez is available on android and ios . breez provides instant payments using LN and introduces Neutrino. open source wallet for simple payments between friends and merchants..

https://breez.technology/


4. muun wallet .

This famous among lightning network users. this is a wallet which uses cutting-edge technology and non custodial . It offers 2 of 2 multisig with muun as a co signer offers security storage for your privet keys.

https://muun.com/

5. strike wallet

available on both os And it offers friends , merchants & creators to make and receive payments with LN .

Strike is LN wallet that connect with your bank account and let users to receive and send payments globally through lightning network . buy & sell Btc And convert from fiat and vise versa. provies you the easiest and best way to Buy bitcoin and escape fees and staking sats , the right way.
 
https://strike.me/



6. Alby wallet .

this is bit defers from other wallet because this is not and application , simply it is an web extension .

available for chrome and fire fox.
authentication with a bitcoin LN wallet such as LND, BLUEWALLET, ECLAIR.

there is no 3rd party tracking options transactions are direct between sender and receiver. this is an open source .

https://getalby.com/


Title: Re: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: jackg on June 24, 2022, 01:21:44 PM
Did you mean to miss out electrum? Afaik they have a mobile version compatible with the lightning network (I've only used the ln on PC with electrum though - and used blw and eclair on mobile).


Title: Re: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: rhomelmabini on June 24, 2022, 01:28:18 PM
Are all these on your list just hot wallets? Not that familiar with other wallets though blue and phoenix wallets ring a bell to me.

Did you mean to miss out electrum? Afaik they have a mobile version compatible with the lightning network (I've only used the ln on PC with electrum though - and used blw and eclair on mobile).
I do have an electrum mobile wallet but I haven't been able to use lightning yet. That maybe the reason a new update on play store was done, I haven't read the description of the update though.

Edit: Checked it, it says "Lightning support in Electrum is experimental".


Title: Re: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: Cryptornd on June 24, 2022, 01:32:59 PM
Are all these on your list just hot wallets? Not that familiar with other wallets though blue and phoenix wallets ring a bell to me.

Did you mean to miss out electrum? Afaik they have a mobile version compatible with the lightning network (I've only used the ln on PC with electrum though - and used blw and eclair on mobile).
I do have an electrum mobile wallet but I haven't been able to use lightning yet. That maybe the reason a new update on play store was done, I haven't read the description of the update though.

Edit: Checked it, it says "Lightning support in Electrum is experimental".
Some of them are

[mod note: fixed broken quote]


Title: Re: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: smartaction on June 24, 2022, 02:40:48 PM
Did you mean to miss out electrum? Afaik they have a mobile version compatible with the lightning network (I've only used the ln on PC with electrum though - and used blw and eclair on mobile).
Yes right you are, electrum wallet is bet for bitcoin lightning network and this wallet also support SegWit wallet and it us user friendly it have Android, ios, windows, linux version available anyone can use electrum wallet according there device


Title: Re: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on June 24, 2022, 11:08:11 PM
Are all these on your list just hot wallets?
Not sure if you actually wanted to mean hardware wallets?

Any wallet type can be a hot wallet, so long as it's connected to the internet. All the wallets mentioned above are software wallets.


Title: Re: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: DoublerHunter on June 24, 2022, 11:20:23 PM
Did you mean to miss out electrum? Afaik they have a mobile version compatible with the lightning network (I've only used the ln on PC with electrum though - and used blw and eclair on mobile).
^ Yes, where is Electrum wallet that is a very easy and convenient way of using Lightning Network transactions.
I like using Electrum it can be used both on-chain and lightning network transactions. A PC version is always good than the mobile version wallet app but unfortunately, this is not available on Apple's AppStore.


Title: Re: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: jackg on June 25, 2022, 12:09:03 AM
Are all these on your list just hot wallets? Not that familiar with other wallets though blue and phoenix wallets ring a bell to me.




LN wallets all have to be hot wallets or have hot wallet components imo. There's a security tradeoff with the person you're opening your channel with (and a potential it relies on trust).

Edit: Checked it, it says "Lightning support in Electrum is experimental".

I think it says this because they're an experienced and well known developer in the cryptospace and are offering the ln in all updated wallet software versions - it's been out a while but I'd like for anyone using the lightning network to try to understand it (and check you're happy and comfortable with its limitations).

^ Yes, where is Electrum wallet that is a very easy and convenient way of using Lightning Network transactions.
I like using Electrum it can be used both on-chain and lightning network transactions. A PC version is always good than the mobile version wallet app but unfortunately, this is not available on Apple's AppStore.

It's disappointing it's not available in the appstore, I'd agree with that - especially if over half of the US still has iPhones (afaik in Europe it used to be 20% and is now likely even less that exclusively own an iPhone).


Title: Re: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: dansus021 on June 25, 2022, 02:31:57 AM
i am personally never using bitcoin lightning network but this list can help other, i usually using truswallet or safepal mobile wallet to send bitcoin using segwit32 address many exchange star accepting it too, and using less fees too


Title: Re: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: Minecache on June 25, 2022, 03:47:17 AM
Did you mean to miss out electrum? Afaik they have a mobile version compatible with the lightning network (I've only used the ln on PC with electrum though - and used blw and eclair on mobile).
Yes right you are, electrum wallet is bet for bitcoin lightning network and this wallet also support SegWit wallet and it us user friendly it have Android, ios, windows, linux version available anyone can use electrum wallet according there device

The OP seems to have overlooked Electrum wallet, I use electrum on my laptop and it's extremely smooth and easy to use.
I also used various wallets to store bitcoins but then I stopped with Electrum. Did I miss something? I can't find the Electrum app on Appstore, Electrum has been released on Appstore?


Title: Re: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: Despairo on June 25, 2022, 05:10:28 AM
I don't see any explanation why those wallet can be included as the best for lighting network since it doesn't have a legit comparation, you need to have better research to know which wallet is the best. It depends on the user itself too if they want to run it with own channel or unknown channel that has been set up the developer, but at least the best wallet need these criteria e.g. open source and non custodial.

This is good read from those wallet you mentioned above and other thread that will make you gain more knowledge:
1. Electrum Lightning Network walkthrough (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5259973.0)
2. Opinions on Phoenix Wallet? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250677.0)
3. So.... Is Muun wallet custodial? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5372661.0)
4. [Table.] All Lightning Network Threads In One Place  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5345664.0)

Name:CustodialAndroidIOSWeb walletLaunch DateGitHub repository
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
BlueWallet (https://bluewallet.io/lightning/)YesDownload (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.bluewallet.bluewallet)Download (https://itunes.apple.com/app/bluewallet-bitcoin-wallet/id1376878040)No2018iOS and Android (https://github.com/BlueWallet/BlueWallet)
phoenix (https://phoenix.acinq.co/)NoDownload (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fr.acinq.phoenix.mainnet)NoNo2019Android (https://github.com/ACINQ/phoenix)
Breez (https://breez.technology/)NoDownload (https://play.google.com/apps/testing/com.breez.client)Download (https://testflight.apple.com/join/wPju2Du7)No2019Android and iOS (https://github.com/breez/breezmobile)
zap (https://zap.jackmallers.com/)NoDownload (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=zapsolutions.zap)Dowlaod (https://testflight.apple.com/join/P32C380R)No/windows2018Desktop (https://github.com/LN-Zap/zap-desktop) | Android  (https://github.com/LN-Zap/zap-android)| iOS (https://github.com/LN-Zap/zap-iOS)
Zeus (https://zeusln.app/)NoDownload (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zeusln.zeus)Download (https://testflight.apple.com/join/gpVFzEHN)No2019Android (https://github.com/ZeusLN/zeus)
Eclair Mobile (https://github.com/ACINQ/eclair-wallet)NoDownload (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lightning.walletapp)NoNo2020Android (https://github.com/ACINQ/eclair-wallet)
joule-extension (https://lightningjoule.com/)YesNoNoYes/in-browser2018Web extension (https://github.com/joule-labs/joule-extension)
apollo (https://apollowallet.org/)No/ 2-of-2 multisigNoNoYes¬-
CoinOS (https://coinos.io/)NoNoNoYes¬Web app (https://github.com/asoltys/coinos)
Spark (https://github.com/shesek/spark-wallet)NoDownload (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spark.wallet)NoYes2018Cross-platform (https://github.com/shesek/spark-wallet)
Peach Wallet  (https://github.com/LightningPeach/peach-wallet-desktop)*YesNoNoNo/Linux/windows2018Desktop (https://github.com/LightningPeach/peach-wallet-desktop)
swiftlightning  (https://www.swiftlightning.io/)*NoNoIOS (https://www.github.com/biscottigelato/SwiftLightning/)No2018iOS (https://www.github.com/biscottigelato/SwiftLightning/)
rawtx  (https://rawtx.com/)*No¬¬¬2018Web app (https://github.com/rawtxapp/rawtxapp)
muun  (https://muun.com/)NoDownload (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.muun.apollo)Download (https://apps.apple.com/app/id1482037683/)No2019Android (https://github.com/muun/apollo)
Fulmo  (https://github.com/marzig76/fulmo)NoNoNo¬2018Fulmo  (https://github.com/marzig76/fulmo)
Lightning Mobile App  (https://blog.lightning.engineering/announcement/2019/06/19/mobile-app.html#)NoDownload (https://play.google.com/apps/testing/engineering.lightning.LightningMainnet)NoNo2019Cross-platform (https://github.com/lightninglabs/lightning-app)
shockwallet (https://shockwallet.app/)NoDownload (https://github.com/shocknet/wallet/releases/download/pre3/app-release.apk)NoNo2018Android (https://github.com/shocknet/wallet)

* = Last commit 2019


Title: Re: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: nc50lc on June 25, 2022, 05:40:08 AM
I do have an electrum mobile wallet but I haven't been able to use lightning yet. That maybe the reason a new update on play store was done, I haven't read the description of the update though.

Edit: Checked it, it says "Lightning support in Electrum is experimental".
It's been activated since v4.x.
It's just not enabled by default, you'll have to go to your wallet's info (tap the wallet name above),
From there, tap "Not enabled" in front of 'Lightning:', then you'll be prompted if you want to enable lightning, after that you can now create channels.
This will only be available if the wallet is Native SegWit.

But take note: Unlike those wallets in your list, Electrum's lightning implementation is completely non-custodial (yes, most wallets in your list has a custodial backend to manage LN).

Electrum client acts as a lightning node and channels are created by the users and not by the wallet's backend.
With that, opening a channel and managing the channel's send/receive capacity is not as simple as the others.
Example: You'll need to send lightning funds first to be able to gain "inbound capacity" or else, you wont be able to receive lightning funds.


Title: Re: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: OcTradism on June 25, 2022, 04:36:26 PM
A Beginner's guideline to Bitcoin Lightning Network (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202798.msg53122219#msg53122219)
Basics of the Lightning Network (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4940536.msg44524521#msg44524521)
Overview of lightning network nodes owned by forum users (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266907.msg54940969#msg54940969)
The Lightning Network FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158920.msg51615708#msg51615708)
Electrum Lightning Network Walkthrough (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5259973.msg54732922#msg54732922)

Lightning Network is on Electrum and with this SPV wallet, it's affordable for people with computers with low storage space can use it. Electrum wallet allows Lightning Network on its mobile wallet app.


Title: Re: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: LoyceMobile on June 25, 2022, 04:49:09 PM
Checked it, it says "Lightning support in Electrum is experimental".
Bitcoin Core is experimental too.


Title: Re: Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network
Post by: yhiaali3 on June 25, 2022, 05:20:06 PM
Personally, I tried this “blue wallet” wallet some time ago. I downloaded the mobile application and tried it. A really good wallet that was created around 2017, in addition to the mobile application, there is an Apple and desktop application, a beautiful and easy to use interface, and most importantly, it is open source and reliable, I haven't tried the rest of the wallets so I can't say if they are good or not.