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Title: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: 348Judah on June 29, 2022, 05:32:33 AM
I consider how bitcoin adoption is ever increasing each day despite bitcoin running dip in price, many people have seen and taken the good advantage in using the digital currency for many reasons that best suit their needs, now i consider this set of physically challenged people (blind, deaf and dumb) who may also want to make good opportunity out of it for an adoption, as we all know they would have heard about bitcoin but not knowing how to go about it, should we consider them in participating from this great benefits in bitcoin or assume an exemption for them.

Why do i need to raise this is because i have centers allocated for these set of people from my location here and i see it a good advantage for them to as well participate in using bitcoin but to be sincere i lack the first move to helping this challenged people out and i see bitcoin as a currency that shouldn't have a barrier of usage just as the fiat is.

I will like to hear from our suggestions, various ways we can use to aid these set of people (blind, deaf, dumb) to know about bitcoin, and if there are instructional materials or steps that could help facilitate their awareness to bitcoin, its uses and application.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exemped from bitcoin?
Post by: avikz on June 29, 2022, 06:00:34 AM
What do you mean by exemption?

Bitcoin is a truly global currency which can be used by anyone with the help of the right tool. I don't think any company has yet taken an initiative to include bitcoin or crypto wallet into a closely guided voice or braille system so thay physically challenged people can use it. The market size of cryptos is very limited.

So crypto education is good. But if someone is struggling financially, it makes no sense for them to invest into crypto because of the volatility. It will make them financially vulnerable.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exemped from bitcoin?
Post by: NotATether on June 29, 2022, 06:05:53 AM
Blind people can use one of many screen readers which already exist for computers, to read the interface of wallets.

And cryptocurrencies do not require audio, so deaf people can use crypto normally.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exemped from bitcoin?
Post by: xSkylarx on June 29, 2022, 08:57:38 AM
Yes, Most of this physically challenged people don’t have job or source of income so how you come up on the idea of getting them involved on investment. Crypto investment is stressful and they don’t deserve that kind of life. I know that your intention is to help them but most them usually don’t care and just being swayed by sweet words of return that’s why they become interested.

Even normal that invest Bitcoin sometimes turn there life miserable so what’s more for these people that needs special care?

I'm one of those physically challenged and don't have a stable source of income. But that doesn't mean we will only be interested in cryptocurrencies just because of its increasing value over the years. As for myself, I'm into crypto because of its huge innovation in financial system. People like me find it difficult to have our own bank account because they need many requirements like proof of income etc. so bitcoin was a great help to save some money on my own when it's possible for me to earn sometimes from freelancing.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exemped from bitcoin?
Post by: Husires on June 29, 2022, 09:02:31 AM
We have good content in English about Bitcoin, this content is growing and developing so it can easily be translated to all other languages or even sign language, or used to help the deaf, there are many tools available to convert text, speech or video in English into the languages that Understood by people with special needs.

Therefore, disability is not supposed to be a cause, but most activities are related to the return on investment, and because this category is small in the investment world, it is therefore ignored.
Community adoption is the best solution at the moment.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exemped from bitcoin?
Post by: 348Judah on June 29, 2022, 01:16:01 PM
Most of this physically challenged people don’t have job or source of income so how you come up on the idea of getting them involved on investment

not all of them are jobless, some have the good ability to work and are doing it good, the fact here is that they have access to financial means also and here we are considering how they can make an effective use of their finances for an investment in bitcoin, some of them not working quite alright receives donations from people, in this way we can't expect them to hundred percent be dependent on what to receive from people, what if that cease to come in, what if the economy went bad and people finds it difficult to gibe them, or what if they also aspire to build a house, buy car and live to do well in live just from the little earnings they save up from their job for the sake of those working.

We can see how inflation is affecting many aspects in businesses and governments as well, do you think they have no equal right as you do to enjoy life, investment with bitcoin, just as you make use of bitcoin with a better preference against fiat, shouldn't they have the same right to benefit from bitcoin and invest on it even from their little financial earnings?.

What do you mean by exemption?

shouldn't we consider them having the same equal right to enjoy the benefit use of bitcoin?.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exemped from bitcoin?
Post by: BitcoinPanther on June 29, 2022, 01:16:06 PM
So crypto education is good. But if someone is struggling financially, it makes no sense for them to invest into crypto because of the volatility. It will make them financially vulnerable.

They can do jobs that pay in Bitcoin.  Financially challenged people do not need to invest in crypto with their money.  They can find jobs that fit them online and get paid with cryptocurrency.  It is there where crypto education comes in.

Physically challenged people, I believe are not exempted from Bitcoin.  There are apps and programs develop for visually impaired people.  Deaf and Mute shouldn't have a problem dealing with Bitcoin transactions.  

Bitcoin embraces everyone who is willing to pay or work to have it, and being physically challenged should not be a barrier to participating in the cryptocurrency industry.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exemped from bitcoin?
Post by: franky1 on June 29, 2022, 01:19:06 PM
bitcoin exempts no one..

the only issue is the persons access to a PC/device.
if they can use a PC there there is no issues. because their PC/device has " accessibility options" like text to speech or speech to text. or brail nippled keyboards, or other tools..these allows them to know/see/hear what is happening on their pc..
the rest is childsplay for them


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: DapanasFruit on June 30, 2022, 03:11:36 AM


Bitcoin and crypto for that matter is open to all regardless of status, sex, nationality and people who are physically challenged can still participate with the industry and of course that depends a lot on the person if he/she can be interested with the benefits and also possible stress related to getting involved with crypto. I am sure that we know that while crypto is open to all not all people can be suited to crypto for various reasons...the decision really is on the hands of an individual.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: stompix on June 30, 2022, 03:38:50 AM
I consider how bitcoin adoption is ever increasing each day despite bitcoin running dip in price, many people have seen and taken the good advantage in using the digital currency for many reasons that best suit their needs, now i consider this set of physically challenged people (blind, deaf1 and dumb)

So, since when is a dumb person considered physically challenged?  ;D

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as we all know they would have heard about bitcoin

1Is this supposed to be a pun?

What do you mean by exemption?
shouldn't we consider them having the same equal right to enjoy the benefit use of bitcoin?.

Then you phrased it wrong, as an exemption would be the opposite in this situation, although I can't picture how an exemption would work when there is no obligation or mandate in the first place, so what are we talking about?

Yes, Most of this physically challenged people don’t have job or source of income so how you come up on the idea of getting them involved on investment. C

It's called a physical disability, and despite what some might think there are a lot of persons with such actively working, not on apr with persons without but still pretty high:
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at European Union (EU) level, only 50.6 % of persons with disabilities are employed, compared to 74.8 % of persons without disabilities.








Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: Minecache on June 30, 2022, 04:13:47 AM
Bitcoin is for everyone and no one has the right to ban who joins and who shouldn't, everyone can as long as they like. But I have a question here, like deaf people, they can use bitcoins but blind people can't use smratphones, is there any way to help them access bitcoins and use bitcoins?.

I support this option, it can be a useful solution to help people who are less able to earn an income outside for some reason, but we also need to let them know about the unpredictable fluctuations of the market, to avoid unfortunate risks.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: noorman0 on June 30, 2022, 04:24:49 AM
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should we consider them in participating from this great benefits in bitcoin or assume an exemption for them.
Actually there are no exceptions. However due to security and capability reasons, it is possible that some people with physical disabilities will never have a chance with bitcoin independently, especially blind people it is not recommended. Bitcoins are digital objects that can only be recognized (well identified) visually.

The only way out for now is for them to do everything with the help of someone they can trust.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exemped from bitcoin?
Post by: Darker45 on June 30, 2022, 04:29:00 AM
shouldn't we consider them having the same equal right to enjoy the benefit use of bitcoin?.

Well, it may not be a matter of right, but I agree that they should also be given access to Bitcoin and enjoy its benefits despite their challenges. But I must admit that they'll probably be having a hard time especially the blind and the dumb. The deaf and the mute can easily make use of Bitcoin, though.

In general, however, while there are laws especially made for this particular sector, many of which are like lip service, at least as far as my actual observations are concerned.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: 2stout on June 30, 2022, 05:45:53 AM
As long as they are in their right mind, why should they be exempted?  Where the physical challenges aren't totally debilitating or incapacitating, shouldn't they have a choice or say as to whether they do or don't want to pursue Bitcoin?


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: btc_angela on June 30, 2022, 07:20:36 AM
Did you know that even the bitcoin whitepaper has been written in Braille already?

https://i.imgur.com/w3DMf9b.png

https://github.com/neatnik/braille-bitcoin-whitepaper

So I don't see it being an issue with this 'set of people' (as you have describe).

And they can enjoy the same benefits as we do.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on June 30, 2022, 08:13:35 AM
As you already understood from the posts that were written above, there are no prohibitions for disabled people from using bitcoin. But you have one more problem, and that is to take the first step. Now it's all about your decision to help these people. You can provide them with audio or video information and show them sources from which they can get the information.

But you also need to understand that everything you talk about should be provided as clearly as possible, with the full provision of all risks, and not just a colorful description of future wealth.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: Zilon on June 30, 2022, 08:39:34 AM
I consider how bitcoin adoption is ever increasing each day despite bitcoin running dip in price, many people have seen and taken the good advantage in using the digital currency for many reasons that best suit their needs, now i consider this set of physically challenged people (blind, deaf and dumb) who may also want to make good opportunity out of it for an adoption, as we all know they would have heard about bitcoin but not knowing how to go about it, should we consider them in participating from this great benefits in bitcoin or assume an exemption for them.

Why do i need to raise this is because i have centers allocated for these set of people from my location here and i see it a good advantage for them to as well participate in using bitcoin but to be sincere i lack the first move to helping this challenged people out and i see bitcoin as a currency that shouldn't have a barrier of usage just as the fiat is.

I will like to hear from our suggestions, various ways we can use to aid these set of people (blind, deaf, dumb) to know about bitcoin, and if there are instructional materials or steps that could help facilitate their awareness to bitcoin, its uses and application.
Physical disabilities shouldn't be a criteria to exempt people from technology. The challenge with passing information to this class of citizens is the cost of sending this information across to them. The have various learning aids the use and this devices are quite expensive. It can only be easier in countries where Bitcoin is legalized because the government and well to do citizens can take it upon themselves to ensure they too get the right knowledge on how bitcoin works, the technology behind it and how to make profit from it on long term and short term goals


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: Dart18 on June 30, 2022, 08:59:27 AM
Should not be a barrier. I agree on that. The barrier is the dishonest people who will take advantage of this disabled people. A blind man could be paying more even at using Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies as means of payment if the one who is accepting the payment is dishonest about how much the price would be exactly.
It's not the currency that is the problem because it could be used by everyone especially Bitcoin where you just need your QR code to pay. It would be beneficial for those who can't bring cash avoiding pickpockets and other evil intentions.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on June 30, 2022, 10:03:17 AM
I consider how bitcoin adoption is ever increasing each day despite bitcoin running dip in price, many people have seen and taken the good advantage in using the digital currency for many reasons that best suit their needs, now i consider this set of physically challenged people (blind, deaf and dumb) who may also want to make good opportunity out of it for an adoption, as we all know they would have heard about bitcoin but not knowing how to go about it, should we consider them in participating from this great benefits in bitcoin or assume an exemption for them.

Why do i need to raise this is because i have centers allocated for these set of people from my location here and i see it a good advantage for them to as well participate in using bitcoin but to be sincere i lack the first move to helping this challenged people out and i see bitcoin as a currency that shouldn't have a barrier of usage just as the fiat is.

I will like to hear from our suggestions, various ways we can use to aid these set of people (blind, deaf, dumb) to know about bitcoin, and if there are instructional materials or steps that could help facilitate their awareness to bitcoin, its uses and application.

Thats a road that I would not want to go down if I were you. Why would you start banning people like the physically challenged from bitcoin purchases and trades? That would not only harm bitcoin itself but also harm the financial situation of the person in question. And at what point do we start drawing lines and where do we draw them? Whats next, do we exempt people with a history of making mistakes? What about criminal records? How much crime is too much? Do shoplifters get their bitcoin freedom taken away from them?

See, its all BS if you ask me. Everyone should have bitcoin freedom. Otherwise whats the point in bitcoin?


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: ChrisPop on July 01, 2022, 06:27:29 AM
I'm not sure how are they dealing with the current financial system? I mean the deaf can still count, the blind can pay using touch. I'm sorry but those who are "dumb" as you call them (I'm assuming you are referring to persons who are retarded) should be assisted by family when handling money.

Yes, physically challenged people can benefit from Bitcoin but that can be simply done by their social assistant explaining to them the concept behind Bitcoin and at their will invest some of their savings in the digital asset.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: Cryptomiles1 on July 01, 2022, 07:51:31 AM
The deaf, blind and dumb they have their own way of studying so any information about bitcoin or cryptocurrency can be easily relates to them. I have a friend who is deaf but can read very well he has a smart phone and he also interact with me via chats so during our conversation he tells me about digital currency asked him how do you know about this, and he said he used to read it on television and also on Internet including facebook and twitter.
This simply means they are also participating, I can only find it difficult with the blink because they won't see what they are always talking of but would hear about it.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: justdimin on July 01, 2022, 07:12:59 PM
Why would you start banning people like the physically challenged from bitcoin purchases and trades? That would not only harm bitcoin itself but also harm the financial situation of the person in question. And at what point do we start drawing lines and where do we draw them? Whats next, do we exempt people with a history of making mistakes? What about criminal records? How much crime is too much? Do shoplifters get their bitcoin freedom taken away from them?

See, its all BS if you ask me. Everyone should have bitcoin freedom. Otherwise whats the point in bitcoin?
I would guess that there is a bit of a "roughing the house" type of situation there. I mean first of all, if you are deaf, you could still use a computer and there is absolutely nothing stopping you from doing that, I never used my voice when I deal with crypto, just my eyes and my hands and that's it. That alone is a huge proof that this is just a "troll" type of person who just tries to get some attention and try to make it a bigger deal than what it is.

Secondly, "dumb" is a weird way to talk about people, how dumb? I have seen people with medical conditions who are smarter than some people I know who do not have medical conditions and didn't know which one was dumb. So basically this is just a troll attempt, and nothing more.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: Welsh on July 01, 2022, 07:35:42 PM
Literally goes against the principles of Bitcoin. It is open to all, and will forever be open to all. Limiting people on such a unimportant factor (in relation to a currency) is just silly. We don't want to go backwards, we want to keep pushing onwards. Bitcoin already some restrictions in place, i.e to mine, and be at a profit you need an initial investment, that's not ideal since it does block a certain demographic.

I mean, Hal is seen as a pioneer around here, and well respected. What you're proposing or asking could've limited him due to the disease he developed, that wouldn't make sense at all.

Everyone should have access to Bitcoin, because quite frankly our fiat system already favours those that aren't disadvantaged enough.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on July 01, 2022, 09:29:49 PM
Should not be a barrier. I agree on that. The barrier is the dishonest people who will take advantage of this disabled people. A blind man could be paying more even at using Bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies as means of payment if the one who is accepting the payment is dishonest about how much the price would be exactly.
There's this blind man in my area who comes to have his hair cut in a barber shop where i normally have my hair cut too, there is this guy that goes with him where ever he goes, the guy is always with him except when he is relaxing at home, this guy does all his transactions for him, there is no way he could be cheated because this guy is always around him whenever he's out of his house maybe to the bank, to the market or any where at all.
Blind people who have interest in investing in Bitcoin and also using it as a means payment can hire someone to act as their aid, just like this man i talked about above, though i understand not many of this blind people can afford to pay someone to act as their aid, but then, its a really good option to those of them that can afford it, person to hire can be a family member, a church member, just somebody that can really be trusted.

And for the deaf, dumb or lame, i believe this ones can still be able to transact in Bitcoin since they have their brains, eyes and hands functioning properly, for this three are the major parts of the body required to be able to participate this space.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: Clochaard on July 04, 2022, 04:03:29 AM
The deaf, blind and dumb they have their own way of studying so any information about bitcoin or cryptocurrency can be easily relates to them. I have a friend who is deaf but can read very well he has a smart phone and he also interact with me via chats so during our conversation he tells me about digital currency asked him how do you know about this, and he said he used to read it on television and also on Internet including facebook and twitter.
This simply means they are also participating, I can only find it difficult with the blink because they won't see what they are always talking of but would hear about it.
It is very prejudiced of us to underestimate physically challenged people. Imo, they have their own style of understanding things and have more intellect than the common man.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: asimi.io on July 04, 2022, 07:11:11 AM
Physically challenged humans, I agree with are not exempted from Bitcoin.  There are apps and programs expand for visually impaired humans.  Deaf and Mute shouldn't have a trouble handling Bitcoin transactions
Bitcoin embraces all people who is willing to pay or paintings to have it, and being physically challenged must not be a barrier to taking part inside the cryptocurrency industry.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: Cryptomiles1 on December 07, 2022, 07:08:17 PM
The deaf, blind and dumb they have their own way of studying so any information about bitcoin or cryptocurrency can be easily relates to them. I have a friend who is deaf but can read very well he has a smart phone and he also interact with me via chats so during our conversation he tells me about digital currency asked him how do you know about this, and he said he used to read it on television and also on Internet including facebook and twitter.
This simply means they are also participating, I can only find it difficult with the blink because they won't see what they are always talking of but would hear about it.
It is very prejudiced of us to underestimate physically challenged people. Imo, they have their own style of understanding things and have more intellect than the common man.

We don't underestimate them in any way but i have said it all, they have their own way of learn and they are being taught in school most especially the deaf as already said.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: Iroh on December 07, 2022, 07:52:05 PM
I must admit, your topic bead caught my attention and I came here ready to severely reprimand you thinking you’re on the side of exempting physically challenged individuals just for the fact that they’re disabled in some way. Physically disabled individuals are not exempted from bitcoin and I haven’t heard of any exemptions on the basis of any disability. Limiting anyone on the basis of a disability is so 7th century.
The only hurdle anyone would face to use bitcoin is an internet connected device and an internet connection.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: Bazzu on December 08, 2022, 01:16:47 AM
I think it depends on the will of the person (person with disabilities)
if he is interested, of course he can invest in bitcoin, only he must have a special companion such as someone close to him, such as his parents, siblings, friends, wife or husband. so with a special companion, people with disabilities can definitely invest in bitcoin.
but as for the deaf and dumb,
I think it's definitely possible to invest in bitcoin, because investing in bitcoin can without audio


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: DapanasFruit on December 08, 2022, 01:41:27 AM

Getting into Bitcoin normally involves some money for buying it and of course there is that learning curve - we must be learning on the details of the Bitcoin wallet and how to protect ourselves from scammers and hackers which are always present 24/7 all ready to make their punch. Now, when a person is blind, unless there can be some form of a technology to help them, am sure it would be difficult for them to make some progress here. Maybe a deaf person that can read will not have any problem because one can just read. Practically speaking, I still have to hear a big demand from physically challenged people to get involved with Bitcoin so this idea may not yet be timely.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: Yatsan on December 08, 2022, 03:41:37 PM
I think it depends on the will of the person (person with disabilities)
if he is interested, of course he can invest in bitcoin, only he must have a special companion such as someone close to him, such as his parents, siblings, friends, wife or husband. so with a special companion, people with disabilities can definitely invest in bitcoin.
but as for the deaf and dumb,
I think it's definitely possible to invest in bitcoin, because investing in bitcoin can without audio
If you have the money and courage, disabilities won't be a hindrance 'coz investment won't require you physical work (not to marginalized other people falling on the same category). For blind people, as long as there would be guide then they are free to do so. Limitations would only appear if the person him/herself would choose to. We are not forced in any field of investment. Anyone is free to decline engaging to investment industry. But also, anyone who has the courage are welcome to do so. We are just all have different circumstances:, such as with people having no one to guide them on what to do, which might scare them in the first place to invest. Blessed are those who has friends who encourages investment which could help on financial matters; which is unending.


Title: Re: Should the physically challenged be exempted from bitcoin?
Post by: kryptqnick on December 08, 2022, 07:24:50 PM
I think this question is about accessibility of basic software required to properly use Bitcoin. If a person has a disability related to moving or hearing, I don't think it's a big obstacle to use Bitcoin, given that things can be done online, using a wallet like Electrum, without much need of moving and with no need to hear anything. So the biggest difficulty is disabilities related to vision. I found a Reddit thread (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/gakj1m/accessible_bitcoin_wallet_for_the_blind/) claiming that Electrum wallet is 'partially accessible', but I've also seen articles saying that Bitcoin should be more accessible. Generally, I agree, but this applies not only to Bitcoin but to media, websites, cities and our lives generally: presuming that everyone will be able to read, hear, and move with no issues is just wrong.