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Higher rank means good opportunities here in the forum, but why its so hard to rank up?
Here's what I realized for almost 5 years here in the forum and still at a lower rank.

1. You can't please everybody here - Even if you create a good topic, you can't expect everyone to appreciate your work and probably will receive little to none merit since we all have different standards and qualifications before we gave out merit.

2. Being Inactive - Don't expect to rank up if you are not active especially on making good contents. I have my busy days and really not active but when I do have a task here, I always make sure to qualify for that but again, that's not enough.

3. Limited Knowledge - You can't share what you don't have, and making good topics here requires a good knowledge especially topics about helping people or a guidelines.


To cut this story short, if you really want to rank up and have a good reputation just do the opposite, stay active, learn more and expect nothing.
These are my mistakes, and I hope you won't do the same so you can be more successful here. Right now, I'm only learning with my experience and hopefully I can give something more helpful in the future.

What does good opportunity you refer? are you mean a signature campaign?

Actually if you don't want to participate a signature campaign and only want to post in this forum, you don't need higher rank at all, just by copper membership that will allow you to attach images.

If you have created a good topic and didn't get any merit, you can post in this thread [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0)

Inactive doesn't mean you can't earn any merit, take a look with this both users satoshi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3) and Hal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2436)

It's not so hard if you know I only joined the forum a few weeks before you.

You can not please everyone but in this forum, if you make good posts constantly and don't give up from a good poster to a spammer, you will receive merit, a lot.

You made hundred of posts that are either one-liner or mostly in spam boards like Altcoin discussions, Trading, Economics. First your posts have low quality. Second, spam boards don't catch attention of merit sources.

Bear market is bad for bounty hunters but it is good time for builders. You can start to change yourself, learn more and build your account in bear market. You don't have to make an announcement that "I am changing myself". Just do it silently and people will realize your positive changes. Merit will come after a while.

Yes, since signature campaign requires quality poster and if you are still not ok most probably it will be hard to land some task here.

Made a good point here, we should really work in silence and let the result speaks for ourselves.
Mistakes are already part of our life and what matters here, is what you will do to make things better. This will motivates me to be better at my chosen field. Appreciate this mate.

Sorry if I have to play the little devil here but were you expecting to get attention and fish for merits from making this post? You only needed a few more to rank up to full member after all. No offense.

My view on this is not to think too much about rank up and just continue to engage naturally in good discussions. Think of merits as a bonus.

Sure it is, but looking at my history I already made topics here before and I'm still motivated to have more.
Just like what I've said in OP, I'm trying to be more active and be more helpful as much as possible. :)

Seriously, my purpose for this topic is to give tips to a newbie not to do the same mistakes I made, I didn't realize it will back-fire at me but I'm always welcome for this kind of comments. Will surely learn from this.

I'm curious what part of "expect nothing" lead to creating this topic.

Ranking up isn't difficult for people with half decent posts. Some people post on boards that don't get many Merits, and once in a while people quickly gain a few hundred Merits after they've been "highlighted" for that reason. In your case, I quickly checked your post history, and it reminded me of this:

Example: post #89 (written by OP) in a topic:
This is what I call a "generic shitpost". It's okay to read, but doesn't add anything. Anyone with half a brain knows this already.

You now have 968 posts. Here's a challenge (which you're free to ignore):

• Go over your post history
• If a post doesn't add anything, delete it
• Create links to your best posts in Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0)
• When you post there, please refer to this post (so I don't lose track if you follow up after a while)
• I'm not promising a lot of Merit, but I do promise I'll review your list (I can't get myself to read your 968 posts)

Keep up your improvement, weeks or months later, your post quality will be much different than now. I am sure if you continue like that, you will rank up not only to Full Member but also higher rank. Now, at least for me, I will keep watching and seeing you around but not meriting you immediately.  :D

Unnecessary to do so. Let's save your time, to improve yourself.

There are enough resources (sticky threads and other guide threads like yours) for newbies to read. Their problem is they ignore all of that at beginning. If they ignore forum rules, sticky threads, they will ignore yours as well.

Will start working on this challenge and I'll surely make time for this.
Not to aim for that merit but I know this can help me a lot, I just need to focus on learning things and be on the right track.
Again, thank you for this kind of motivation.


Maybe this is just another mistake.  :D

Regardless of the factual objective, or sometimes because of it, ranking-up to the lower levels I’d say is relatively easy, but it does become harder to reach the top tier ranks, kind of what is expected as the number of require Merits is higher and one generally needs to provide better content.

Staying active per se is not necessarily part of the deal, but rather more what one does in that time. One will normally need to dedicate a fair share of time reading here and there, contrasting, and in general, developing a certain edge or criteria that helps him to expose, query, criticize or whatever in a more meaningful manner.
I recently encountered a given account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3392099) that was "very active" on the forum. He managed to make over 44 in just over three hours, saying absolutely nothing of value. The case is obviously a serial spammer, but likely, if he’d spent those three hours reading through and cross-referencing information here and there, he’d be better positioned to make at least two or three meaningful posts within the same timeframe.

I’ve been merited on 2.711 posts out of 10.133 posts. That means that 73,25% of my posts have not been merited. By that I mean that, even for accounts that do receive merits with a certain frequency, it’s seemingly more normal by far not to get merited than to get merited, something that I often sense is expected the other way around by many.

What you called good topic might be average to the users you intended to get merited from because they must have seen either the exact same or similar topic numerous time. That been said, don't create your content to pleased anyone, create them because you feel it's right to pass that information to the community. Don't be waiting for any validation, we have hundreds of users rank up so ranking up is no longer a big deal as before when people thought the merit circulation was been targeted at certain users.

You must not be a genius to rank up or have to know it all. Just been consistent can help you go a long way as you can also learn from the conversation you engage in. We have many intellectual members that don't have as much merits as others that can't stand toe to toe with them, if there was a contest of who knows it more in the industry so it isn't always about the knowledge. Just be helpful when a member needs such and be genuinely interested in engaging in quality conversation instead of merit hurting conversation.

You must keep improving OP to reach a high rank don't stop posting quality thread or replies because if someone see your effort or reply with a hood quality for sure they give you merit.  All you need to do right now is to improve your posting style give some effort and dedication when you are creating a topic then for sure someone will give you.


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 And if you think that you have a topic that. worthy enough to have merit but did not get then you can post it on link provided above by our forum mates
 

It is hard to rank up here if the user is not posting replies/topics that are helpful, relevant, funny, or any factors that might be able for someone to give merit(s) to the post.
Generally, users need to have knowledge to be acknowledged and be able to potentially aquire some merits given that these merits are subjectively or objectively given.

I mean if user is here just to join discussion, ranking up shouldn't be like something to be worried of.
If you mean "good opportunities" as "earning" here in the forum, then there's absolutely plenty of better opportunities outside the forum and that would be better than just pursuing those shit bounties.

"Why it's so hard to rank-up?" - if it was easy, it would not be interesting to rank-up. The whole beauty of this challenge (in my opinion) is in overcoming difficulties (like being too lazy to write constructive posts) and reaching new levels (new ranks and merit marks - 700, 800, etc).

1. - You don't have to try to please everyone. If you write well, there will always be those who will appreciate it. Try to be yourself.

2. - If you don't show activity, then as a result you will get "nothing". This happens everywhere. On this forum as well.

3. - So what's the problem? Expand your horizons and try new directions.

This topic sounds like "cry about the inability to increase the rank." I don't want to offend Scripture, but I see it that way. If your actions don't bring the desired result, then try to change something.

You are very close to Full member, and this may well be achieved. So don't despair.

From myself I will leave +1 merit for the effort.

I mean those two are a huge part of bitcoin history and this forum so I am not surprised if they got a lot of merits from old members and new members of the forum despite not posting anything for a long time. but yeah, you can still get merit even if you are inactive IF you have a post/thread that is extremely helpful to other members.

there are threads that give merit to unmerited high-quality or helpful posts. if you think you have posts that deserve some merit you should participate in those threads.

It is not that hard to rank up if you ask me. I managed to get the total merits I have today and it's not because of an opportunity where I can earn merits. I did put an effort to contribute in this forum and I finally did it. You must believe that you can do it too and soon you will ranked up higher than the rank you have right now. You need few merits now to ranked up. Good luck with the milestone that you are aiming to achieve.

I saw your profile and you are actually in the process of ranking up, be patient mate, it is just a matter of time, only need merits again to rank up.
I also have ever been in your position, and likely I considered creating good posts, but I know that other people consider whether my posts deserve merits or not. We all here need process and continuity. So, don't be tired to make contributive and good posts so that you can get what you want someday.
Although it may be difficult to rank up, as long as you always do good, you may next deserve the merits again.

I think the best thing is that you should always expect nothing in return, yet you feel satisfied in contributing to the whole forum. It is like a real-life donation, you give everything but expect nothing in return. If you see someone returned the favor, then you will feel as if you did everything you could which is more satisfying.

The problem with most newbies is that they see this forum 'purely' as a way to earn. While that may be true enough, they fail to see the bigger picture and the purpose on why Satoshi created this forum in the first place- which is to discuss BTC!

It's hard to rank-up because it takes time, work, patience, and some dedication.  But figuring out opportunities and also posting quality content topics will go a long way in closing the gap.  See this:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098333.0

Is it really?
First off, I don’t think ranks should be that much of a priority or a big deal. Although, it’s only natural to want to increase and grow on here and everywhere else. I think we should be working hard to grow or “rank up” in our lives and be better humans and not bothering about ranks on a forum on the web.
Besides, I’ve observed that to a newbie or a low ranking member, the higher up’s tend to give their honest thoughts and opinions on questions asked without putting the person down irrespective of how dumb and stupid the questions may seem.
Back to your question; i have gone through the rules of the forum and the requirements needed to rank up and I don’t think it’s difficult to climb through the ranks. Every legendary member on here was once a newbie.

To some who only goal is to lurk here and learn then its clearly not a big deal. But for some who wanted to make money using the ranking system its pretty much big deal cause it can give them money or profit. So they do everything to receive or gain merits.

Yes thats true. A literal higher rank doesnt need to br rude when guiding a newbie and only think of themselves as a hierarchy here do that which isnt good model to some newbies. Every proven newbies inquriing muat be treated as such and dont be criticitize for their lack of knowledge.

'expecting nothing' is necessary part, as the saying goes - no expectation, no disappointment.

Most merits I have accumulated are from topics which were spontaneous ideas and barely took few minutes to come to fruition.

The less you give a fuck, the better.

Hey. Look at it this way.
Once you reach legendary, you will never have that feeling of ranking up ever again.

Like you, I have onky received less than 100merits, I only got Sr. Member because I have more than 250 activities by the time merit system was introduced.

OP, if you have been on this forum and in the crypto for so long, then you surely have some knowledge and experience that you can share with others and thus contribute to the community.
You can always explore new crypto projects and share information here.
If I understood you correctly, you are unhappy that after several years you still haven't reached the desired forum rank, which I assume you need to be able to participate in better paid signature campaigns.
If I were you, I would first focus on how I can contribute to this forum and help other members, and everything else will come naturally.

Spontaneous ideas that suddenly appear but must also be in accordance with the topic to be discussed. If you get the merit of your spontaneous comments without taking too much time, that's great. But I don't agree with the "don't care, the better" part. Concern for what will be discussed is very important and this will be a reference for how you can digest the topic being discussed.

some of the threads that i create even take a few days and some research, and for some of the responses i also need to analyze and understand what is being discussed, so i give a response that fits the thread.

Report to the merit source here ^{[especially if you feel the post is worthy]}: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0) After all, not all posts have to be rewarded with merit because that's highly unlikely, but you might be able to get 1 merit per day if your posts appear to be of high quality. That's much better than expecting your per post merit ratio to appear 1:1.



Do the opposite and don't give up, one more thing - Don't complain.

Remember this suggestions, that suggestions should be useful to all users hoping to rank up. Just like you, everyone who cares about rank will try their best. Sooner or later you reach rank depends on your ability and consistency to be active, learn and share your knowledge here.

Just take example in business enterprise, you will discover that some were making it while others aren't all because their mentality is different and the approach adopted as well are different, but the fact remains that you can't give less and expect much, the forum has the several advantages you could make good use of, ask me how? There are laid down forum rules and regulations for guiding you on how you're expected to use the forum with your posts being a quality one that could benefit someone with a touch, if they find it interesting they may wish to merit you and you begin to rank up whenever you meet up with the required activities and merits, simple.

Honestly, I didn't realise you've been here that long. I know I've bumped into this account a few times but didn't know it's nearly as old as mine. I think you should snap out of inactivity and spend some more time here if it won't disrupt your other schedules.

That would even be a very difficult thing to do in real life let alone in a pseudo setting such as this. You better keep your sanity intact by being yourself.

Far from it, ranking up doesn't bestow any reputation on an account. It's what you do in the forum and how credibly or incredibly your interactions are that can do that. Don't blindly trust any high ranking user.

I joined the forum in 2014, had two large periods of inactivity (approximately 3 years away in 2018) while I wasn't active in the first place when I signed up. The merit requirement hadn't taken place back then and managed to rank up till Sr. Member somewhere in 2016 or 2017 if I remember correctly. I re-entered the forum in January 2021, having the 250 base merit due to the Sr. Member rank.

So far, within approximately a year and a half, I've gained exactly 200 merit, requiring only 50 merit for Hero. I agree, ranking up is not an easy purpose, while merit isn't the perfect system by any means, it has successfully got rid of spammers who were unable to rank up and join signature campaigns.

It was about creating topics, but ok.

If something relevant arises in the mind while reading the topic/comment then I comment otherwise move on.

Yes, there are a lot of older members who may not have earned their forum rank due to the quality of their posts and their contributions to the forum, but they was lucky to have become members before the merits system started and thanks to that they got a higher forum rank, while new members have to work much harder for higher forum ranks.
Because of this, it could be said that the merit system is not fair to the younger members, who joined this forum much later, but on the other hand, thanks to the merits, we were able to separate the quality members from the spammers on this forum, as you said.
No system is obviously perfect, but it is obvious that merits have benefited this forum.

I  as a newbie may not be in the best position to educate another person on how to rank up but every passing week my impression about this forum evolves i gain more knowledge from the system and it helps me to modify how i put out post constructively, also another thing that has helped me to keep comin back is when i see how my mentor made 40USD and keeps telling me about campaigns it motivates me to keep improving, when i asked him how he grew to the level he is he told me he creates 4 hours every early morning hours and he works in the night too to put out posts whether they merited or not he keeps going...  think if i apply same grit i would get similar result if not better

Like in all aspects of life, success is not a straight line. There are no shortcuts to success. It's not something that's handed to you on a silver platter, but rather earn it.

There's no easy journey to it. When you begin your journey, it's like you're in a dark tunnel which you may get lost due to uncertainties, obstacles, trials, difficulties, etc., and even experiencing the worst of the worst that may tempt you the most to give up on your goal. It's up to you if you want to keep going or not.

So when it comes to ranking up, you must be willing to grind without any expectations or get something in return like merits, etc. You can't please everybody here. Not everyone will merit your high quality or helpful post. Treat rank and merits as bonus perks or blessings instead. What matters is that when you've finally built your reputation and keep learning from your mistakes and getting better, eventually you'll get there.

Before we're all becoming high-ranked members, we're also like you before who started from scratch. But we grinded, keep giving value to the community without expecting anything in return. Be passionate on what you do. There's always opportunity within the opportunity, if you know how to discover it.

Hope this helps you a bit and good luck!

it will only apply to the general topics being discussed, but for some technical topics that require a little more knowledge there will of course be some little research done.

Relevant spontaneous comments are good, they will only emerge when we have the ability to discuss them.


Starting from scratch when this forum wasn't as crowded as it is now and the signature campaign wasn't very productive.
I remember the first time I was on this forum, I didn't know what to do. Many Bounties I started working on but didn't give any results. Spamming may be unavoidable, due to lack of education from the start. Everything requires a process until I can be like now. Nothing is easy and instant. Everyone has a chance as long as they are willing to try.

Even inactive accounts can get a Merit.  Even three-line replies can.  I do not reckon me ever checking activity an account before sending Merits for a post, nor do I remember giving them based on how long a reply was.  Very often you can put as much bull shit in a wall style reply as you could in a three-liner.

I think the secret is just being yourself and abstaining from posting in threads where you lack any knowledge besides the very basic common sense and well known information, unless the situation or thread requests this information specifically.  If the topic is about how bad KYC is and you reply saying KYC is bad but with other words, you will not get a Merit and most likely everyone will skip your post.  If you come up with very well structured arguments, I believe your chances increase.

What surprises me is how after so long you are still stuck at a smaller rank than I am and I have been here for just over an year.  From my own experience, I feel like lower ranks are also more incentivized through Merits and the closer you get to Legendary, the harder it will get to earn a Merit and the more original you will have to be.

This is however not the 'recipe of success'.  There is no sure way of how to get a Merit but I personally think that even with a very well structured post per month containing substantial information you can get out of your Member rank in a relatively short span of time.  This requires you taking your time to learn, read and then share your knowledge and thoughts in the relevant threads.

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As for me to rank up is simple but the only thing that I can consider that is difficult in the forum to rank up is inactive, when you are not active then nobody will know you, at that you can not rank. I saw some persons that registered with me in the same month of April and today some of them are Jr. member and Member. And the OP you registered in since 2017 and you are still a member. I can say 2 things on you. You were not active or you were a Bounty hunter.

Older members, myself included, got a head start, but it couldn't be done otherwise. I understand OP's frustration, but I remember the forum back then had plenty of spammers, using terrible English and often posting irrelevant one-liners just to gain activity and rank up. Let me also point out that signature campaigns were much more popular back then, there was an abundance of smaller campaigns, paying significantly less than major competitors, but were still pursued by users who often couldn't get into better campaigns either because of their post quality or due to the limited available slots in major campaigns.

Just to give some numeric content to how many accounts have managed to rank-up under the shine of the Merit System, the following table summarized the numbers to date:

https://i.imgur.com/QUSOrAd.png
See: https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/Ranked-up

Both tables are interesting:

The left-hand table shows ho many accounts have managed to rank-up needing Merits from a given initial rank at the time the Merit System was introduced, to their current rank. For example, out of the 204 Legendries that required Merits to rank-up, 57 were Hero Members when the Merit System was introduced, 36 were Sr. Members, and so forth.

The right-hand table indicated how many accounts are still at a given rank, having complied with the Activity counter but not with the Merit counter, and how many complied with both requirements. So for example, out of the 1.813 accounts that reached Sr. Member (needing Merits to do so), 183 have made it to Hero Member, which is 10,09% of the potential set of merited Sr. Member accounts.

It goes without saying that the numbers lack the context of the content being generated by these accounts, the boards where they are posting and so forth, which are fundamentals factors.

Note: Unmerited accounts are not present in the above data.

Rank up isn't hard for everyone at all. You have to think about contributions to the forum, not to the rank-up. If you concentrate only rank up then it won't happen. Then it will be a hard task for you. You have to spend enough time on the forum and engage in constructive discussion. Anyone shouldn't expect merits in every topic even if it's good for you. The post wouldn't good for all merit senders. So concentrate only on the contributions to the forum.

Yes, but being active here in the forum for five years is enough time for someone that is a total novice to the forum to have learned so many things about the forum and how one can contribute positively to the growth of the forum or possibly made good research, gather good information that will solve some problems here. You can share the information you once saw that someone in the forum used to solve a particular problem if you are a good reader or should I say learner and you have nothing to lose hence you reference the original owner of the information, you can also get the information you wish to share on the internet but remember to add the link to the source of the information to avoid plagiarism.

I would like to say Rank Up is not at all too hard. As Many / maximum members with Smerits merit you on your poat if its standard and having something unique it doesn't mean you need to discover something just something not in regular posts.

1: Be Active ( Constant Poster )
2: Post in active Community
3: Try to Post more in Local Board ( Easy to Intrect and earn merit)
4: Follow the Trend

Wdym by general topic? I tell you I rarely research (except checking spelling of words sometimes).

I base my responses on my own past experiences and what could be more concrete than that?

Ranking up in the forum is not as difficult as you may have thought. The moment you say it's difficult so it'll be. It's clear that you are not dedicated to giving quality contents to forum members which may have affected your merit count regarding your post counts. Invest 1 hour a day reading a specific topic you wish to share here, the time it took to finish reading or researching on the topic don't matter, but reading daily on a topic for 7 hours which accounts for 7 days if you read about it 1 hr each day, such thread will be quality and intuitive because you understand the topic completely and made it easier for people to grasp new knowledge from the thread. A single post with so much time being invested on could get 20 merits from users that finds it helpful. Ranking up in this forum, the ball is on the users Court, if you want to rank definitely you'll rank, it's not a big deal what matters is that you learn for other to learn too. One good thing about knowledge, Unlike money, when you share knowledge, it increases.

Ranking-up isnt hard. As usually, all problems and difficulties comes from the head. If you think it is hard, then it will be hard. Some people come here to chat and managed to get to Hero or Legendary ranks. Some people dont even have deep or unique knowledge about cryptocurrency and manage to get top ranks. Sometimes it is enough to leave sharp, smart, relevant comment to get a merit and start ranking-up. Sometimes you can even be far from crypto, but have high cooking skills (pizza competition) or be creative (drawing competition) to get merit and rank up. The only minor difficulty with ranking is time. I've seen a lot of users with 1000+ merit, but not enough activity to reach highest rank. And since now the amount of new users decreased, good number of old users already reached high ranks, it is much easier than in 2018 to rank up.

Just like what I've said in the OP, I'm not that active and this is why I'm still stuck from this rank and still not knowledgeable enough about the market. I'm still on a learning process, and there's a lot of good suggestions here which I'm starting to follow slowly but surely. Again, I appreciate everyone's comment here, and yes getting more legit information is east to collect now, I should double my effort on doing this.

Complaining about not ranking up as expected doesn't solve the issue at hand. You have heard different advice from members of the forum. It's now left for you to put it to work. Forget how long you have stayed in this forum, by taking a deep breath to relax and refresh your mind and believe that it's just a matter of time, you would get there(your dream rank) someday with a steady consistent of good posts.
Congrats to full member in advance

I am not commenting with respect to Op, but I am generalising from experience.
To rank up in the forum, a user need to do the following;

• Be active in the forum: The forum and forum members remember people they see daily. Out of sight is out of mind, you aren't visible for sometimes, it takes supreme power for merits to reach you.
• Possess quality: If you are a quality poster, people will always want to hand out merits to you. People are sometimes skeptical to merit non quality posts, that's why merits tend to flow to them that possess quality
• As much as you can, be friendly with people and avoid trolling. No one is naturally attracted to a troll or a nastic person

Is not hard to rank up. What i know that is the barrier of ranking up to people who lacks of merit and lack of time to make research that will make people to know what they don't know, with such kinds of topic and research that gives education of what you don't know and including the newbies that is new here need to be inform concerning what they don't know, with such kinds of topic people that have smerit will give you merit because of your time used to research and present to people to know. With meaningful response people will give merit that will make you to rank up.

It really does come down to this "Being Active"

Knowledge is progressive, you gain on it by constantly visiting it. You don't try to lean a thing by staying far off, it's why we practice and in practicing, you gradually build a perfection towards doing whatever you've been practicing about.

We've got several Active users on the forum and still, they don't have any ranks or merits to show for it. Why is that? They've been probably bounty hunting or spamming to the extent they've been known for it and even archived the Wall of shame.
It doesn't mean they aren't good but, they are in ways the forum considers unnecessary. Like, I doubt most regular users on the forum might be able to handle bounty hunting and posting reports the way the bounty hunters do it, except for fbe few that have gone down that lane in the past.

What am I saying, you get better at a thing by repetition and being involved. You do your best to get the most knowledge of it and learn new ways to put it. That would definitely aid you in doing better in the forum.[/list]

Actually the advice I gain always is don't chase the merit instead make your self knowledgeable with the crypto world first by that you can now share information and other important details to help the community by that you can get easily caught the attention of the sources and get merit needed for your rank up. Learning, and sharing is the most ideal thing to do. Don't pressure yourself because the member ranks up immediately we have a different paces of learning.

I can not say I am the most active member of this forum.  Sometimes I stay off the forum for up to 3 - 4 days.  Yet I so far earned a ton of Merits.  My personal belief is you do not need to necessarily stay 24 out of 7 to earn a Merit.  You will pretty much earn merit about every time you say something that is not nonsense and that is not repeating what others said before you.  It is very often that I reply to a thread and the next 5 replies 'by coincidence' rephrase half of my post to make it seem like they have something to say when they actually do not.

I am capable of betting my life on the idea that as long as you are a REAL member of the forum, as in you are participating for real with your real ideas that actually make sense and add some value to the thread, it is impossible that you never receive a Merit from somebody.

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Being active doesn't guarantee a quick (or just) achievement of the rank, but without the manifestation of activity, the increase in rank is generally impossible. So, one way or another, a lot comes down to activity. Even if you accumulate merit a little bit, it will gradually bring you closer to the rank up. But if you make 1-2 posts a month, then what merit posts can talk about, without which you will never get a new rank. Theoretically, the more posts you make, the higher the likelihood that you will get more than merit. But there are no guarantees that what you say will be useful to others and positively evaluated by them. So, you have to balance between the activity and the quality of the content in the posts.

All in all, forum ranks are good. They give members the opportunity to advance their status through activity, merit and engagement, for example, but also prestige and prominence. These are all measures of each member's position within the community and, besides, motivate one to be more active.

The point is that forum gives you a lot of freedom and possibilities for self-realization, but, at the same time, imposes certain rules and community standards. Only in this case there is a chance to get ahead either in rank or in the level of an expert. So, if you want to achieve the goal of promoting yourself, then you need to be able to play by the rules and know how to live within the framework that was created by all members of the community together.

First,  I think the question on the subject should have been ~Why it's so hard to rank-up for some users.
This is because ranking up is not difficult for every user here,  the way you (@op) put it in the subject made the ranking-up difficulty look like it's a generalized thing.
I know some users who joined the forum and in a space of a year,  there attained the legendary rank,  so to simply put it,  I would say that ranking up is easy,  but it all depends on one's level of knowledge and activity on the forum.
Like you (@op) said,  one can not give what he or she does not have, those who are very limited in knowledge and don't take out time to learn,  and also do not have enough time to be active on the forum, users in this category will definitely find it difficult to rank up compared to those who are not so limited to knowledge of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies,  and are also pretty much active on the forum.

I think this forum gives you so much more freedom than the typical Internet forum does.  By imposing standards and rules, the forum is only kept more civilized and fair to everyone.  Because imagine how this website would look if only plagiarism was allowed.

In fact, I sometimes think there are some rules that are not on the forum but there should be.  For example, there are even today some scammers and trolls wandering around yet although everyone knows they are trolls or scammers, they are not banned.  So yes, this forum gives you a ton of freedom unless you are a real jerk or a spammer.

Can someone finally explain why someone is supposed to try their best to properly fit within this framework?  Is this not supposed to come naturally rather than artificially?  If one has to try hard to be one of us, why are they even here besides obvious reasons such as bounties and campaigns?

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We thank God that you realized your mistakes and share it here for others to learn. According to the saying, "experience is the best teacher". Now that you have experienced the unexperience nature of life, you have learned yours in the forum. Everyone has their experience in the forum. Reading always give wisdom than knowledge. Yes you will give things that more useful and it will be helpful if only you are reading other users thread and learn and write constructively. Once again delayer is not a barrier, wasted time is not a barrier but how focus and seriousness are you now in the forum is the issue.

This forum is basically the perfect way to ask any questions that you have about cryptocurrencies, and not just about Bitcoin. It's a great place to talk to other members of the site and see if they have similar ideas or thoughts that you do. It's a great place to hang out. I don't know where else you can find a number of brilliant minds scattered across the site, ready to help or argue with each other.

How do you promote yourself? Don't limit yourself, and don't be afraid, if you are willing to put time into this forum then you will be able to move forward.

Don't get me wrong, it's great to be active, but as long as you keep making shit posts, there's no way you'll be able to rank up. stay on topic and stay humble...

I'm trying to imagine what the atmosphere was like then here in 2014 and few years after that. Was there so much drama or no sparks as encouragement that made you leave? If you don't mind, I would like your response on this.

In 2017 when I came in, I observed there was so much drama and in-house fights. The forum was often tensed. Those who had confrontations, fought like it were physical exchange of blows they had as one could feel it in the harsh words used. I couldn't help but wondered what was going on. Most times I was lost in the terminologies used and couldn't make out anything that was the reason for such fights. It's good to know that it's different now. The forum is friendlier this day.

I occasionally visited the forum during 2014 as a guest and I was not interested in anything except to learn more about Bitcoin, although I must admit that I was also interested in some altcoins and of course then very popular faucets. I registered in 2015, and at least as far as I remember, there was a very relaxed mood then, because Bitcoin was cheap (between $200 - $250), and some signature campaigns were literally run by bots - there was so much spam that it was immeasurable in comparison from today.


There have always been conflicts on a personal level, maybe there are fewer of them today because some members left the forum, and others realized that it was a waste of time. The forum is definitely cleaner if you take into account spam or all those alt accounts that have been banned for various reasons, but there are still conflicts, just look at the Reputation board.

However, none of that is a reason that the OP or anyone else can't progress on the forum - time is of course still a key factor, but with merits we got another challenge that the members have to overcome, which is not easy, but far from an impossible mission, which many have already proven.

I registered on the forum in summer 2017 although I discovered it months before. I remember there was a serious problem with spam, as you mentioned, which ended up leading to the merit system. I suppose it's not perfect, like any other solution they might have wanted to put in place, but it alleviated a lot of the problem.


I agree. With a little effort, everyone can make progress on the forum.

It is difficult to rank up because people are greedy with their merits. Even when you make a quality post, they still ignore it and you get nothing. I guess that's why people like us are really not interested in ranking up. I am here first, to learn. I don't care whether I rank up or not.

I would not agree with you, because 90% of your posts are in Altcoins boards (https://ninjastic.space/user/Victorik), and even 80% of them are in Bounties, which means that you spent 90% of your time on the forum under the radar of most of those who could potentially reward you with merits. Furthermore, your post history clearly indicates that you came with a completely different intention than to learn, but it is never too late to change the way you approach the forum.

If you think you have posts that deserve to be rewarded with merits, there is also a topic for such requests -> Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0)

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As you can see, some do not think so, although few think that the problem may be with them, and not with the forum.

Thanks for stepping in and sharing your perspective with me (and others). I guess most of those members who couldn't tolerate such attitudes/posts that caused frictions in the past are now more tolerant. As we grow and age, our sense of judgment gets tempered by real life experience and we tend to be more subtle and soft to issues. Little wonder grannies are lenient with their grandkids and annoyingly indulge them. I may be missing the mild drama you said still goes on at the Reputation section as I'm not a regular there. On the whole, I think life should be better without nagging confrontations. A little disagreement to agree is cool; it helps to straighten things up. Anything above that isn't healthy.

Again, maybe those who left are the real troublemakers 🤔

In some of forum sections it may be more difficult to encounter merits than others. Those more forum or bitcoin centric tend to be better off than those that altcoin related, and that is seemingly reasonable in a forum called Bitcointalk. Regardless, the content is what in general terms makes a post potentially a candidate to receiving sMerits, and I’m pretty sure that, for the most, those that do elaborate decent enough content do not have a hard time ranking-up. It does take some effort, which is not to everyone's liking.

If they do find it hard, there are always possible aids through threads here and there that review people’s posts/posting history, highlight those profiles that may need a budge in the ranking-up pipeline, or simply give some merits for some not too complex technical acomplishments related to signing messages.

When it is certainly going to be difficult is if one makes 80% of his posts on bounties, 10% in Altcoin Discussion and some more in sparse sections (see data in this external site (https://ninjastic.space/user/Victorik)). -> Jinx with @Lucius it seems.

Greediness, presumably to hoard sMerits, is not something I’d say is a thing. There is not real point in being "greedy" by hoarding, since one gains nothing by it (remember Merits and sMerits are not the same). There may be people less interested in the Merit System who decide not to participate in it much, but that is overly compensated by Merit Sources and others that receive plenty in their day to day, only to be selfless and distribute the rendered sMerits around.

Hey! Kinda wished that I was in this forum that year. I might not have bought Bitcoin, but surely I would have been "more" educated towards it since my misconception back then was that Bitcoin was a coin being used in the dark web. That was what I was wrongly taught back in those years.
I usually listened to some random podcasts about the internet that year in Youtube, lol.
I have a wandering thoughts though. Were altcoins really like "worthy" in those years or were they just mostly shitcoins that we get these days? I am totally curious.

You're welcome ;)

However, I want to emphasize that this is just seeing the forum from my perspective, because in the beginning I spent most of my time in Micro Earnings and some other boards, a little outside the important things that were happening on the forum. Maybe you would be surprised if you looked at the post history of some of today's famous members, because most of us started very modestly, as befits true beginners.

I don't want to say that those who left were the ones who caused problems, but that they were just personalities who were different from the majority, and that their leaving the forum might have been a good thing for some, but I think we lost members who were also very important for this forum.

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From the perspective of that time and my own, they seemed to have some value, but for an inexperienced beginner, everything looks promising. The first coins that I somehow earned were actually altcoins, so I was even involved in a project whose owner was one of the more famous members of the forum, but that project, like many others, failed.

Over time, I realized that only Bitcoin has a constant, and that everything else is just an illusion sold by fog sellers, as is the case even today. I can't say that everything from that period was wasted time, because 1000 Dogecoins were worth only about $0.14 then, and you could earn them very easily on faucets - for those who saved them, they could make a very significant profit.

You remind me of this one user, his departure is highly expected by most cheaters and scammers, so he is really a concern for rule breakers. Because Lauda was such an important member, his passing will always be remembered ^{[that's what I think].}

• Goodbye, world! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282911.0)

But on the other hand, one is welcome to leave without hesitation when they are not a very important member.

• I'm leaving here, goodbye friends! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410669.0)

Ranking up is not so hard when you have a lot of knowledge about crypto currency and the Blockchain technology.When you know how to help others in this forum and how to share important updates you will be appreciated by receiving a lot of merits. First learn and then share your knowledge with forum users.

Am suprise seeing this post from you, do you think people having merits are greedy? I checked your post history but I didn't see any quality post that you did and is not merited, all I can see is bounty report and some comments you make just because you are participating in bounty signature campaign, I think you should start making positive impact to the forum and see if you won't get merit. You don't expect people to merit bounty report or two line posts you are making.
Also you said you are not on the forum to rank up, you are in the forum to learn, but all I can see in your post history is just bounty report, so am sure you are not on the forum to learn but to earn money. Am not saying participating in bounty is bad, but you can be participating in bounty and still be making quality posts that will help the forum.

I strongly disagree with you. It's not hard to rank up here, and it's not true that members are greedy with their merits. Take me for example - I joined the forum two years ago and was recently promoted to Hero member rank. You've been here for four years, but in that time you haven't moved beyond Newbie member rank. Can you spot the difference between us in terms of our forum activity?

This obviously shows that the senior forum members care about young members and recognize those who are most helpful in the forums. I'm sure that if you join the discussions and become active, you will be recognized and promoted fairly soon. But that won't happen if you continue to post only bounty reports, which is what you've mostly done so far. The forum is about helping people, and you should join the discussions with your own experiences to share. That will help you get ranked up faster than if you keep posting only bounty reports.

I can somehow relate when I first started I even recall earning some shit tokens back in 2017 which was my year of starting in crypto. Come to think of it, I subconsciously earned some meme coin during those times. One token I remembered was Sparta (or Spartan?), lol. I am not sure anymore where those tokens went since my old brain could not keep track on how much meme coins I tried to pursue.
I also had the thoughts of buying Doge, though I did not manage to find any faucets. I kinda wished I experienced those years in crypto in your perspective, but hey since I went full Bitcoin holder, it is never too late to buy one. :D

I think you are right, but I disagree if you think all users will have the same experience on this forum. Especially rankings after the merit system was introduced, it could only be achieved by users who were willing and able to post something quality. However when users were unwilling and unable to do so, then they would have hard time rank up. So that should be the reason why one thought about the difficulty of rank up nowadays.

Quality posters will be rewarded, they won't have much trouble getting merit and rankings. But I can say that every user should try to do the best they can and let other users judge the quality of their posts. I also agree that engaging in good discussion increases the chances of gaining knowledge and merit, and that is something that is often the habit of quality posters as far as I know.

Yes, after all, such users were valuable assets for the forum in the fight against scammers and spammers for many years, and I personally participated in 2 signature campaigns managed by Lauda and both were at the highest level, similar to today's CM. Therefore, my opinion is that we should not look at how good/bad a user is towards someone individually, but how good he is for the forum as a whole.

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A lot has changed since then, even when it comes to the faucets with which I actually earned my first Bitcoin. Back then, there were no irritating short links and claiming rewards was quite simple, but also very fast if you used a good faucet rotator - in less than 1 hour you could earn at least 100 000 satoshis, and with active referrals, even 500 000 satoshis per day. I remember a Russian site that was something like a PTC with faucets, and there I often used to get 200 000 satoshis in one click - which of course was not much considering the price of Bitcoin in those days of only $200+.

As much as I know at this young age. Actually ranking up is not a difficult matter. To rank up, you have to have a lot of knowledge in all subjects. I see bitcointalk forum, except for altcoin board, you get a lot of merit if you post or reply with good quality. We who are juniors always wait for good quality posts from senior members.

Of course, and I can say that it is a real contribution to the forum. His presence on the forum had a positive impact, his willingness to help the forum was expected and appreciated regardless how he reacted to particular individual breaking the rules.

That's how the merit system works so far. Every forum member who makes consistently quality posts then they will get ranked. Sooner or later it's just a matter of time, now you'll also find that some posters don't even have enough activity points to rank up despite having many merit.

100k satoshis in an hour? Dang, I could recall when I attempted faucets back in 2017 and I could even barely get 500 satoshis in a day during that year when I started even when I tried multiple faucets. I can still recall that I must get into 10k satoshi first from one website before I could even withdraw it. Spoiler alert, I was not able to withdraw it as it was really tedious for me to rotate/switching all the faucets I bookmarked. Not sure what happened to it, but I ain't going back there. :D

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Thanks for sharing your experience by the way! I can see how some things changed overtime. :)

The best title for this thread should have been why is it so hard that I can't improve myself and rank up in my own opinion, this was same kind of question that I asked sometime in the past when I was a Newbie , But not knowing I was actually getting it wrong , until the time when I realized that I should rather focus on how to learn and improve myself and not how to get merit and ranked up. There a lot of members here that is just waiting on you to put up something educative and impressive to merit you.

However, Is good you've finally come to understand the right thing to do.

On October 5, 2022, I will have my 5th birthday on this forum. I realized that I am not one of the quality posters that I can be proud of compared to hundreds to thousands of other users. I find it difficult to get merit due to poor post quality, but once I understand how the merit system works then I am very motivated to always prioritize quality over quantity. I just think that we have to be brave enough to make assumtion, share ideas and say something right. Those are some of the things that also help us discuss something good with other users.

I never complain about rankings, but I will be honest about my desire to move up the rankings to high rankings. Then Sr is the rank I'm most likely to achieve in the next few months, so it's something I'll try to do in the best way possible.

Every member on this forum will rank up at his own pace. Some will rank up quickly while others will rank up slowly. It all depends on how hard you work at it, how much time you spend on the forum and how active you are. The important thing is to keep going and not get discouraged by the slow progress. Each of us can select his or her favorite subject, and then post in that subject by using our well-known information in this selected field. Through this whole idea, I think it's comforting to know that merit is still a fair system and that anyone can become a Sr. or Hero Member with good quality posts. There's no real secret to getting promoted on this forum, just keep posting high-quality content and you'll get there. It won't happen overnight, but with time, effort, and dedication anyone can reach the top.

I know ranking up won’t be that difficult, but some people are just starting to learn about bitcoin which it will be very difficult to make contribution to the forum, most of us are participating in bounty campaigns just to earn extral money, we all know that economy is down we just have to look for a way to earn a living. But I know if anybody is dedicated they will rank it might just take time.

Having a lot of knowledge in all subjects is not what's needed to up in this forum besides, it not possible to have knowledge in all subjects and most high-ranked members are also learning more at this moment because the crypto ecosystem is changing every day.

What every newbie actually needs to rank up is to understand the forum, know the section merit source focus, and have basic knowledge about BTC, wallet, and transaction.

I've also discovered that if you don't contribute to the forum, you wouldn't receive any merit. You have to serve the forum in many ways to be ranked higher since merit is always for posts that are good and deserving, and when you help the forum, you will be noticed, and people who have Smerit will give you without hesitation, and ranking will be easier as time goes on.
Secondly, try not to shit post on any boards in the forum.

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So I'd say that's how it works. I won't talk about it too much considering you seem to know how the merit system works even though today you got your first one apart from the airdrop.

Theymos encourages more low-ranking users to post something quality, which is how all users managed to raise the rank even after the merit system was introduced. I found some users can even have higher merit than activity, they are contributors and high quality posters. While me and you and many other users run slower, but that's okay as long as we're willing to try.

Yes, I'm just learning and the lack of knowledge is palpable. Sometimes I literally don't understand what they write about in the topics. It's a bit embarrassing, but we've all been through this, haven't we? Such an answer from a newbie probably sounds funny in this topic :)

There are way better opportunities out there other than just focusing on bounties. I live in a third world country and the first time I looked for a job back then as a fresh graduate sucked a lot and I tell ya that it takes plenty of luck and not just how you get those resume fired up for employers. Not to mention, I also did freelancing and it sucked the first time but I finally got the hang of it and it went better than expected overtime and finally earned my reputation as Top Rated in Upwork.

Going back to what you're talking about, ranking up would either suck or be "easy peasy lemon squeezy" for some people and it is fine either way since this is just a forum anyway and not an earning platform where every single user should pursue ranking up.

If you're telling the truth, what's the reason you're embarrassed? Do you think all the Legendary here are born experts? I think you will understand that all of them are not experts from the start because everything takes a process and a journey. I can tell you that not everything about bitcoin has been well-understood for me. I'm never shy, but I'm embarrassed when I don't want to learn to increase my knowledge.

If you want to learn, then you are one step ahead of the bounty hunters whose only job is to make reports and occasional reports. They have high activity, but you can see that they are focused on bounty regardless of any discussion in the forum. You know what I want to say? Make quality posts and get your first merit and you will get ranked.

But now I have to hit you 1.

Being active is one of the most important aspects of growing or ranking up in this wonderful forum; you can't expect someone who has no experience with the forum to get merits; you must be very active, make your own personal contributions to the forum, and help others, and you will see your rank rise.
Some of us approach the forum with different perspectives, which is why, once you start with bounty, it always appears very difficult to rank up because your threads are full of bounties; the best thing to do is to be very active and contribute to the forum.

Not just active,  you know why? Because many users here in the forum who is active many years ago but still did not rank up. The main reason why other forum members experience an easy way of ranking it because of their contribution here in our community and this is the main thing we should have to rank up higher. Gaining more achievement is based on our hard work so if we want to rank up we need to make a quality and helpful post.

Indeed this particular topic has been a lot of concerns for many members on this forum, although it can be so tiring for someone to keep posting on a daily basis without receiving the kind of merit he or she is aiming for. The question is ARE YOU DOING THE RIGHT THING? …. I always ask myself this kind of question whenever I am on this forum, this has always been helpful to me so far so good because I always ensure that I use my mistakes to build and develop myself the more. It’s not about the merit but standing out among others with reasonable posts. So many new members like myself are not looking out for being a brilliant member like the other senior members, heroes and full members here, rather, they are looking for a quick merits within one month so that they can start getting paid by joining a campaign. I took several months  in studying and educating myself with other senior members posts on this forum in order to become a better person on this forum. It’s not about the money Bet being a quality poster.

I laughed reading your post man. This is very positive.
Many are like you saying here including me. Your age is younger than me including those who are still very active, but until now we still haven't reached the rankings like you.

Regarding quality posts, I would like to convey a little based on what I understand. I'm sure you're willing to set the record straight if I'm wrong because I've been very blunt and need to read a lot.
1. Every quality post, worthy of merit.
2. Quality posts that I understand are posts that can benefit others.

Of these two things, what else is the standard of quality post quality so that someone can receive and give merit in your opinion if the two things I mentioned are contained in a post?

It actually hard to rank up especially when you are a new member on this forum and again when you don’t know much about bitcoin or crypto as a whole, this is because you don’t get involved much in a thread and also another reason is that about being active 24/7 on the forum, when you not active you don’t get to reply threads early and a member or more will have say what you intended saying and you won’t get merited.

Actually increasing the rank is not very difficult. Because basically you need to acquire a lot of knowledge about Bitcoin here and let everyone know what you are good at. But some people come here just to rank up i.e. to get merit only in a hurry. Actually chasing merit here will not help you first you have to make yourself merit worthy.And for that, give people knowledge about what you are good at, then you will get merit and your rank will go up. Don't run after merit like a fool, Pursue good quality posts and try to help others with your knowledge then you can easily build up your rank.

Most importantly, time dedication is important; there are many users who have recently registered their accounts and are doing well in the forum, not only in terms of merit, but they also learn every day and provide better improvement feedback by creating quality posts. Not knowing anything about Bitcoin cannot be the reason for your low ranking; many users gain merit for asking very technical questions; asking such questions demonstrates that you have done your preliminary research as a beginner before forwarding it for clarification in the forum.
Dedication is key in this forum, and you will undoubtedly get a good rank and reputation.

Sometimes people feeling that ranking up is an opportunity, but i will dispute the fact because ranking up is typically for the detriment of the person who owns the account. Because people earn a merit through their active participation on the forum engagement and research, so when someone make a research of things that are new to the forum people that likes it's ideas of discovery will merit it's ideas as a sign of appreciation and encouragement. To rank up is a personal task through a quality post you make.

Creating your own post thread and receiving merit from that thread is certainly a matter of pride because we can contribute to the forum and not just participate in other people's ideas. But even so, participating in other people's ideas isn't too bad either. The comments we give of course must also be of high quality and constructive. Many participate in other people's threads and earn more merit than thread starters. That's because it depends on the quality of their posts, whether they are useful or not. Ranking up will be difficult for those who are not trying to be a good poster in this forum.

It's simple it will be hard for anybody to rank up because they always think about that everyday and most of newbies try to create nonsense post to think that they can get a merit from it, then get dismayed or mock here for telling its hard to rank up. People need to enjoy this platform and leave all up to the people if they give you merit or not since if you don't pressure yourself about it for sure you can think more deeply and then you can write topics which have sense to other forum users.

It all depends on the reason why someone joined this forum.
There are people who came to this forum to get information about crypto, or to present their crypto product or service, but there are also people who came to this forum solely for the sake of making money.
We all already know how the ways of earning on this forum work and that the most important thing is the forum rank.
For the last few years, you need to get a certain number of merits for forum rank, and since that moment, merits have become the most important story of this forum, how to get them, what to do etc.
Instead of talking about crypto topics, we talk about merits all the time  ;D
Guys, don't stress too much about advancing on the forum or how to get merits, just be yourself, try to contribute to the forum in your own unique way and everything else will come naturally, don't worry.

I feel so touched by your post and wished I were a merit source to help you rank up. You aren't a bad poster from my perspective and I know you were just being modest with your assertion there. Listen, don't be deterred in your efforts. Keep making your posts and improving on them. One day benevolence will find you. I also passed through what you're experiencing now to the point that I got stuck at Snr rank for years until July last year that I turned Hero before hitting Legendary early this year.

Don't despair. Remain focused.

I got the post today, my last 5 merit seem worth it for him.
I like someone who doesn't complain about why they can't get a lot of achievements to move up the rankings. All they need to do is try and prove to other people that they're not bad posters, that's the best way to go and I think that will do them some good rather than complaining.

Thank you for your kind words of motivation, I am impressed.

For now I'm starting to feel good things coming as support for me. Of course I will use it as encouragement to always motivate me to do my best. Hopefully the good things are also felt by other users too so that they never find it difficult to rank up. I firmly believe consistent effort never betrays results, no matter how long I have to wait to rank up, it's not important because it just depends on how I can maintain the quality and how I improve. Hopefully this year I can rank up to Hero, that's an achievement that I really want to feel.

I would also get motivated if I am in your situation. That's should how a person should think when they many people complaining about how it is very hard to rank up when the truth is that it is hard because people are only complaining and not thinking why they didn't rank up since it's all their doing why it happened. Anyway, continue what you know best and maybe that will you rank up to next milestone you aim to achieve.

Previously, To rank up required you to publish posts when you reach a certain number of posts you take a new rank, but now if you want to rank up, you can publish useful topics and long posts and help beginners and respond to various inquiries and discussions, and then you will get a lot of merits Which will help you to get the highest rank, it's just simple, all you have to do is help others and gain the respect and trust of everyone, then to rank up will be easy, you just have to post constantly without stopping and take care of the quality of what you write as it is not copied or plagiarized from any source and is be from your mind and your own knowledge.

Ranking up has become challenging in the forum because several of us have started other money-making endeavors, particularly Bounty activities. Doing too much will prevent you from having the time to examine what is happening on the forum, and I don't think you can take any action if you don't know how things work on the Bitcoin forum.
Second, you will conduct a lot of research so you can contribute valuable information to the forum. If you are the lazy type, ranking up will be challenging because ranking up requires commitment and hard work because if you are not the hardworking type, how will you interact with forum users?

I agree with your opinion, of course the purpose of joining this forum is not because
income. because the purpose of this forum is for discussion that will generate benefits for all forum users. not for the pursuit of income.

It's okay. There's no other way I could've put it other than how I did and that's an honest way of stating a fact. By the way, you may want to report a few of your posts that haven't been merited which you think are merit deserving at [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412657.msg60895527#msg60895527), a thread started a few days ago by Fillippone. Kindly peruse the OP and follow the instruction.

When you are well-versed in blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies, ranking higher is not that difficult. You will be rewarded with many merits if you know how to assist others in this forum and how to share crucial updates. Learn first, then inform other forum users of what you have learned. Its as simple as that.

Uh...bruh you are being honest with yourself, so why do you continue with the bounty hunting, and it is not even a money-making endeavor, you can't call it that because you either get a token that has no use or worth, or many times you will not get anything at all, so honestly you are not making any money from it, but losing time, if you know the correct thing to do, you do it. Cheers!

a newbie it's hard to rank up because newcomer like me sometimes to afraid to write their opinion because the rule offten to strict, they are to afraid and insecure because sometimes i wanna post something and then i'm thingking maybe my post is't good enough and likely became spam or maybe someone see it as a junk post. If someone too hard to write their opinion then it's likely it's also make them hard to improve.

Lol you are right, from what I see it seems he/she just wants to full filed his weekly signature report, bounty hunting is wasting time leave nothing but regret  ;D

One may feel somewhat insecure posting around here on topics he is not too acquainted with,  though that shouldn’t be a deterrent for people to participate, but rather a pointer to gaining a bit of a background on the matter at hand.

The rules are not really that harsh, but there is a kind of developed culture here, whereby posts are generally a bit more elaborate in thought and content than those that one would make on fast-paces social network platforms.

That's a common misconception I see, thinking that you have to be knowledgeable in order to rank up which often leads to newbies getting into trouble (mostly due plagiarizing). The key is is to be genuinely interested in bitcoin, and asking the right question will often bring you more merit than helping someone.



You are overthinking it buddy. Its perfectly normal for your posts to be of less quality if bitcointalk is the first forum that you are active on, or if you are new in crypto. As long as you are staying on topic and not regurgitating what's been said already, you will be good.

Well, this is indeed a factor that can cause someone to rank-up faster than the others but that is not the sole criterion on why people rank-up.

Personally, I started joining this forum without even knowing anything, let alone, about all the nature of cryptocurrencies. It took me a couple of years in order to at least touch the surface and understand its fundamentals; and it took lots of effort on my end to achieve it. But, a person may rank-up even without being "that" knowledgeable about the topic.

It really goes a long way if a person replies in a thread in a coherent, smart, and orderly manner. The way they evoke their thoughts and share their insights has this impact that can garner you merits as long as you stay on the topic.

I am a beginner here, the first thing I did was find out what the benefits of being a member of this forum are, it turns out that here are a lot of benefits that I can get,

I can get to know more people

I can discuss

and I can get more understanding about crypto investing, because of the many members, I can see more understanding

and I don't care about my ranking, as long as I join here to get my knowledge and understanding, it's more than ranking in my opinion.

I believe that ranking up is not all that difficult. I didn't take advantage of a chance to gain merits in order to get the whole number of merits I currently possess. I made an effort to participate on this forum, and I eventually succeeded. You must have confidence in your ability to succeed so that you may quickly move ahead in the rankings from where you currently stand. Currently, you only need a few merits to move up. Wishing you luck in reaching your goal milestone.

I think I will never understand people that claim that ranking is difficult. Maximum rank is legendary, it takes 2 years to achieve it. You cant get any quicker. 2 years is more than enough to understand how forum work, what people want, what people value and how to be useful. Just spend 2 years, set a goal to be a legendary and you will be a legendary. That is so simple. People that complain that getting merit is difficult. It is actually not. It is possible to get tens or hundred merit during first week, it is even possible to get 1000 merit in a day. But that person still needs to wait 2 years before he will  be legendary, and you cant just wait. So not getting merit is not a real problem with ranking. It is so hard to rank-up because people are lazy and impatient.

I am new to this forum, but as far as I know it is not difficult to rank up. Because if you want to get merit, you have to use your own knowledge to help others or give good knowledge. So that they benefit a lot. Then you will definitely get merit. But if you post on altcoin board, you can never earn because it is spam side, to say here, everyone's post quality is same. So you have to post Bitcoin discussion, meta, economics, mining etc. If you post in these, you will definitely get credit.

Welcome to the forum, I've seen your merit history so it's really not that hard to get merit to increase rankings, there are many opinions that we stay focused on improving the quality of posts and sharing something useful to others, so get used to it often for posting quality will be rewarded for some merit. However, the main goal is to contribute to the forum and share important things to increase knowledge in the forum.

What many persons do not understand about this community that you can please anybody and we should not write here for the purpose to please people to give us merit. If we keep writing good posts, I think earning merits will but be a problem and we should not have the mindset of writing to get merit. That should not be our focus rather to write a post that will ha e effect even though it's not for everyone but at least some set of people need to see that post as a guideline or and effective one. Please let's not write to please rather we should write to impact knowledge that will go a long way.

It's nice to hear from new members ike you that it's easy for you to rank up and you know what you need to do to get there. And then some from the very beginning give up, don't see opportunities for further growth in rank, which can deprive the forum of interesting opinions and useful knowledge that they could bring here. Although it would seem that the recipe for success is quite simple - to have the desire for it and make attempts.

I believe most at times the reason why is hard to rank up is because of low quality post and disregarding the forum rules. I'm new here but from what I have read, understanding the rules and making good quality post will help you rank up.

You're right mate, but the OP said that he had his busy moments and outside that he might also be a working class and everybody has their goals and ways of achieving them.
Most times when work is done, we do except an accolade for a job well done even if it's just one because most times that is all we need to keep going and pushing.
I'm still very new here and recently I saw a one line post with 4 merits from 3 different people. And let's be human please and admit that that alone is a major discouraging factor in the forum as getting 4 merits from a one line post and you, after taking out your time, maybe after a stressful day at work to make a post that seemed quality to you, only to see that it has no single appreciation, that most times isn't fair.

I just hope people would be fair enough to help and assist people most times knowing that we all have a different schedule and activities.

I'm sorry, but I don't agree with this. Sometimes a one-line reply is more valuable and useful than a wall of text. I don't think there's anything wrong with showing off your writing prowess in a piece of content, be it an article or response to a forum question, but my biggest concern is that more often than not, long pieces have nothing to do with the question in the OP. In other words, quality should be valued over quantity. Ultimately, how you reply to a post is up to you. Some people will want more information, others will only want a simple reply.


It really boils down to this: if you want more helpful replies to your questions, treat others with respect and courtesy. It's not just about the quantity and time invested - it's about developing a genuine, trusting relationship with the community. But remember, always keep in mind that everyone comes from a different background and has different motivations for being online.

If anything, that should encourage you that getting merit ain't that hard and that you don't have to write bloated wall of text in order for someone to see your post as quality/helpful.


Just because you think that your own post is quality or helpful, doesn't mean that others do the same. One of the problems in this forum  is that members regurgitate what's already been said a couple of times before in the same topic, so naturally their chances of getting merit for that are slim to none.

This. The other (closely related) thing that bugs me is when people just quickly scan the subject line (in this case "Why it's so hard to rank-up?") and then immediately start writing something. That's very unlikely to result in merit, but it seems to be a pretty popular posting technique!

I can imagine them trying to make quota before the week is out, and thinking: "Shit, I have to post something, I guess I'll just write about $SUBJECT." :D

I think it is because people see someone who earn money that is much more compared to what other earn then that person will ask that what and how did he/she earn much more money than the others so, in merit when they see someone who earn with a lot of merit with a simple post and yet acceptable to all or merit worthy then they would also try it. In short, those who always complaining that it is very hard to rank up wants to rank up in easy way (faster way).

this is what many people need to be aware of including myself. That is realizing the importance of knowledge. because we will not even be able to make a post that is useful for others if we ourselves do not have enough knowledge to share.
so start with learning more. and continue to share every new knowledge we have gained. and don't care that other people will appreciate it or not. because if we focus too much on Merit. then when we don't get Merit in every post that we share, it will make us easy to give up and feel useless. but if we don't expect too much then our mentality will stay awake. and keeps us consistent in making quality posts. and let Merit naturally come to us.

and we also need to know that many Merit sourch are kind and they are even willing to take the time to review our posts. and they will give Merit if our posts are considered useful.

Here are some threads that I hope can help everyone who wants to submit their posts for review.
√ [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.msg49051692#msg49051692) by LoyceV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459836)
√ [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412657.msg60895527#msg60895527) by fillippone (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1852120)
√ Rules for my post history review offer to the community (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410264.msg60770668#msg60770668) by The Pharmacist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487418)

and maybe there are several other threads but they are no longer active. so I didn't include it.

So keep trying to contribute well in this forum by making useful posts. And don't worry your posts are not appreciated. because if you are quite sure that your posts are of high quality then you can ask for a review on the Merit source which provides a thread about it. but you have to read and obey the rules.
because reading and obeying the rules that are made is to prove that you are among those who respect the maker of the rules.

Ranking up is all about consistency and self development. If you have knowledgeable ideas about bitcoin you can easily rank up. Ranking up seems too difficult only when you don't know what to in the forum. The forum about learning and share good information about bitcoin.

Indeed knowledge is a central aspects of merit sharing.

I made my point clear in this thread:

Ranking up is possible! 2900 Merits earned in less than 12 months!My 11 Hints! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098333)

You need to understand how to contribute effectively to the forum, before asking for rank-up and merits.

If you are not good in quality post, it will be difficult for you to rank up on time because some of the senior members you see in the forum ranked up by quality post and patience for the right time for the ranking to come.  Don't post because you want to rank up today  like senior members who followed the due process to get to were they are today.

I'm new here, I hope I'm welcome into the forum, while reading and replying of topics base the area of discussion, I hopefully, I will be rank up the more I'm active on the forum.

I have read the eleven hints very well, trying to follow them.  A hint is very good, the quality of my post should be very good and should not end with one or two words.
Post should not be off topic, reading my post to learn something new.  If you gain some different knowledge through my post then i can get merit in that post.  And slowly i can rank up. Moreover, if i am active regularly in the forum, i can learn a lot, if i am not active, My rank will not go up easily.

Correct. The first step is that we must try to understand the system and rules in the forum first. then we must continue to develop ourselves by continuing to learn and add insight and that requires high consistency. Patience in the process is also required. we don't need to rush. we enjoy the learning process while sharing every knowledge that has been obtained. and we will be surprised that ranking up becomes easy if we live it while enjoying it. so keep learning so that insight continues to grow. because if our insight is lacking then it means we can't share anything that is useful for others.

This is what I've learned, to have more patience and just continue to doing your best to achieve your goals.
Ranking up is only be hard if you just focus on that, there's a lot of ways to be more productive here, choose that better option and always open to new ideas and opportunities.

Of course you are welcome, just continue reading all the details you want to know and you can be good. Just follow the advices on the comments here and ranking up are more possible for you.

Every employee is eyeing points to be promoted by the company's leadership for good work in meeting the target.
Promotion of position is the motivation of employees at work. I've experienced that. The most basic thing to be promoted is to love work and work with heart.

Here I also think it should be like that that is "Loving Work and Working with Heart".
Here I only take advantage of the opportunity to learn from great people who have extraordinary knowledge about the future currency

If you want to increase your Rank at Hero or Legendary Member. You have more skills and knowledge about the cryptocurrency. If your post will be helpful and constructive then Higher Rank Member give you merits. Then your Rank will be increase.

You are not up to a month old on this forum, and to be frankly speaking, I must say ranking up here is not that difficult, in as much as you are consistent, and you could come up with good creative content/ideas about Bitcoin, how it affects the forum or the environment at large.
So as a new member of the forum, I will advice not to ever go against the forum rules, and remember that plagiarism is highly prohibited here on bitcointalk

Why should a higher-ranking user give merit to quality, constructive and informative posts.? You and low ranking members can also give Merit on useful posts as long as sMerit is still available.
You can also give Merit to users who rank higher if the post is considered quality, they also need Merit to get additional sMerit so that it can be distributed to other users. There is no need to hoard sMerit or save it because it will not give you any benefit.

Many thinks ranking up is as difficult as they had thought but things does not really work the way we most times approach the ranking system of the forum, how do you expect a shitposter to rank up, or an occasional member that rare go active on the forum to also rank up and the main thing as well is that not everyone has the intention to stay after getting onboard to the forum, then what we also post determines the tendencies to make us rank up because the merit system is what has been adopted to restrict some undeserving members from ranking up.

Thank you mate for enlighten us the new comers to this forum because we will need all the knowledge and experience from older members to actually grow in the forum.

Like they say you can't learn very well without you must have making a mistake or error at the long of learning something

And we only grow when we,ve learnt from our mistakes and take correction from others around us

You're right, we can explore to share useful crypto related content to all forum community members without the primary goal of increasing rank or gaining merit, but other members will appreciate your topic by giving merit as motivation to continue contributing to the forum. So beginners should know the basic rules of the forum because in some cases beginners ignore the basic rules and in the end they make mistakes that affect the reputation of the account.

 If you have stayed up to 5years in this forum, you would have mastered where the mistake is from, for you not to rank up as expected of you. Were you less consistent in the forum posting back then around 2017?

Having said that, you can't earn merit in this forum if you can't put effort into your posting. You start by being consistent in the forum, You posts when necessary, and expecting nothing in return. The mistake some users make is to be less active in the forum, and expect a miracle to happen.

Sure, 5 years is a long time to learn. So he knows and sees how the users here write, it should inspire him.


But I also thought there might even be him having merit just for getting an airdrop. So that he was too satisfied and comfortable with it. So that he does not want to contribute usefully to the forum. There is no need to learn. Although I am actually also sure in this forum that there are many helper threads to obtain merit. But indeed if the quality of the post is not worth it then don't expect it. Perhaps the best advice is to maximize learning and expand the discussion in his local thread.

There is no doubt, it hard to rank up. For some people to get it easily does not mean that it is easy to do. Some people can be lucky about it and some can be hard luck. That is why one post must have high merit than the other even if both of them are of the same quality level.
The day I know that it is hard to rank up was the day I saw someone with 1233 activity but without any merit. I was surprised but when I open the person profile I notice they were posting just links upon links upon links. That was how I knew about bounty hunting in the forum. Those kind of people don't get merits.

If a user doesn't post answers or topics that are beneficial, pertinent, amusing, or any other characteristics that would allow someone to award merit to the post, it is difficult to rank up here.
In general, users must possess knowledge in order to be recognised and to perhaps acquire certain merits, whether these merits are awarded subjectively or objectively.