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I was think about storing emergency supplies for 2 people.

How affordable is it to store enough food and water for myself and my wife.

A few years ago hurricane Sandy hit New Jersey hard and the shelfs were bare.

Pandemic came and lots of shortages.

So could I reasonable store 30 days of food and water for my wife and I.

How much space?
How much food ?
 how much water?

propane?

I am a diabetic so I use high protein and fat low carb diet.

30 days means
30 cans of chicken
10 cans of tomatoes
10 cans of chickpeas
10 cans of cannaelli beans

10 pounds of roasted peanuts
 5 pounds of walnuts
5 pounds of almonds

a bottle of multi vitamins

and 100 ½ liter bottles of water
a dozen cans of peaches
a dozen cans of pears
some parmalot as it keeps
some cereal

The above should do the trick for my wife and I. For maybe 45 days.

I can afford to have the above list I am thinking a lot of people can’t.

So how exposed are people to a solid disaster.




No fresh meat
No dairy since refrigerated goods may be gone.


I would think most of the world is a short time away from real food issues if food shopping is shut down.

your thoughts and ideas are welcome.

I'm thinking the same since the crisis is resulting to food shortage. I'm even thinking of moving first to my cousin who live near the lake. Where we could have unlimited fish to catch. And if in case there really is a war coming. Really worried if all these will escalate to a level where there is no U turn. You never know how long it will take.

Don't you think a water purifier will give you more advantage than keeping 100liters?  I'm thinking of putting all the stored food inside a van where you can travel with you wife because this is what I have in mind.

The more you could store I think if you go for dried food vs canned goods. I tried some in a vacuumed plastic and put them all storage box, this will keep you more than 30 days.  But of course you  still need some canned goods. First aid kit and medicines like antibiotic and for flu. I could be overthinking this already but its best to prepare.

Don't you think water purifiers could be harmful as it requires overdose of chemicals for the purification process and this chemicals ends up been deposited in the body of the consumer. 100liters of spring water should be preferred because purified water this days are so unhealthy

Dried food and canned food in vacuum plastic can last even beyond 30days and is safer for diabetic patients. First aid kit and antibiotics is like a necessity for me i don't think this is overthinking you are just getting prepared for the worst

People who doesn't have enough money will bought many high carbohydrate foods since it's cheap and would make your stomach full without thinking the nutrition, vitamins etc. They will bought dozen bags of white rice, dozen carton of spaghetti, ramen or noodle.

In my countries it's completely safe and doesn't have many threat of natural disasters, so I didn't think to store many foods for survival.

I think you're forgot to bought a honey jar and low fat milk or almond milk since you have cereal.

The space could be variable. In disaster scenarios, you'd want to maintain materials that could keep warmth. Dealing with summer heat isn't as difficult. Water is more important than food for immediate survival, and you need at least half a liter of water per day minimum (factoring in no perspiration from the temperature which is unrealistic). I'd imagine the space you would occupy wouldn't have long lasting generators for AC, so you'd need to increase the water intake. I'd say 90 liters per person minimum a month. Ideally, you'd probably want 120 liters.

Most people need anywhere from 1k-1.2k kcals minimum to survive, so the most space efficient way to get those calories would be high caloric carbohydrates and fatty foods. Lean proteins won't give you enough calories if you're just looking to survive.

It is quite easy to stock up on food for one month (in fact, the experience of the covid-19 pandemic showed back in 2020 that every home should have some food supply for at least three weeks in case of possible isolation) and your plan is also quite suitable for this. It is more difficult to foresee the option if you have to do without going to the grocery store for say a year or two, for example, in the event that the entire civilian infrastructure is destroyed by a nuclear strike. A few years ago, I experimented with making universal dry food for people and created my own recipe for granola - baked oatmeal in honey with the addition of nuts and dried fruits. When vacuumized, granola retains its taste and nutritional properties without noticeable degradation for at least six months (this is from what I personally checked, I think that it is possible with some stretch to extrapolate the result obtained for 25 years, because there is nothing special to spoil there). After creating such a stock of dry food with a long shelf life, you only need to take care of a water disinfection device and iodine tablets in order to have a chance to survive the apocalypse of any complexity. Hopefully I won't need this skill, but I'm glad I have it.

I'm believing your storage of food quest is in a situation where there is no war or other disaster because in such places you hardly will store food for such long time like a month. The people in Ukraine hardly have that luxury of storing food that long because any thing is possible to happen with the attacks. In a peaceful situation, of course you can store for more than a month and beyond. Being a diabetic patient, you need high protein foods and they are really expensive with the level of inflation. You need such storage because you don't have to eat anyhow any more, depending on your space in your apartment, you can get some large containers where you can load food not easily perishing.

Interesting thread, I'm sure experienced preppers will have it down to a fine art, it would be
nice to hear if there are some preppers here on the forum.

I would say everyone has to some degree a surplus of food in their home but probably not
enough for 30 days. and the list philipma1957 posted in the OP should eb easy to store,
space wise in the home.

Since the pandemic and the war in Ukraine and the resulting inflation and shortages due to
both scenarios it has definitely got me thinking about self reliance along with storing food etc.
more and more.

So much so that this year from early Spring I have started to grow some food, basic food as
an experiment. Its easy over the summer to grow but during the winter a bit more difficult.

So what extra could I add to philipma1957's list?

Cheese as it potentially has an extended shelf live if refridgerated

Nuts and Seeds as these have a long shelf life and are high in protein ad nutrients and energy

Protein bars although expensive for their size they have a long shelf life and are high in . . . Protein

Fresh Vegitables Particularly Potatoes and Onions when stored correctly can last a long time and
are a source of carbohydrate and nutrients

Fresh Herbs / or dried herbs In the case of fresh they offer the opportunity to eat "leafy Greens" and
are easy to grow in your window. In the case of dried they can enhance the taste of an otherwise mundane meal.

Spices

Rice and Pasta Very long shelf life and source of carbohydrate

Other things to consider depending on how far you want to take the subject or how long you would consider
needing to be self sufficient:

Gas stove and gas
Water purification tablets
Medication
Fuel as a heat source for Winter

If this is what you need and you will use to anticipate certain storms or crises in life. So I can suggest just two things from some of the foods that are already on your list.

First, for water storage problems, you can use other alternatives such as digging a borehole near your house or in your yard. That way you will always have water and will never be cut off from water forever and you can use it anytime without having to spend money again like buying. But before drinking it, it's a good idea to take the water for cooking first.

The second for storing chickens, you can use other alternatives by buying chickens that are a little big and then keeping them at home for a few days. But you need to prepare the bait for the chicken for a few days as well before you cut it to eat.

Those are the only two things that I can recommend and for the others I think it is very suitable for you to save for 45 days with the aim of anticipating certain storms or crises that can occur at any time in any country.

One of the really constant problems we had as food-delivering organisations (when I was working for them) actually tried to answer a lot of these questions, but I already see diabetes might render most of our food packages unusable for you, but as I recall a lot of these are actually lentil based (high protein).

Nevertheless WFP does have a really tried and tested package for pure survival, long shelf life without refrigeration, while keeping max nutritional value in absolute worst conditions. Red Cross packages are similar and even more robust.

One such reference: https://docs.wfp.org/api/documents/WFP-0000104979/download/

That's the famous RUSF but many adult versions can be made locally in most countries. They taste like shit but in severe conditions you'll be reasonably healthy just living on these for months. Some refugees spend their entire childhood eating mostly food like this.

Almost certain you can locate manufacturers.

I read (so should not be taken seriously) some doomsday movements or the preppers mentioned above in US also stock and sell all kinds of survival packages, think they tin most of their stuff though. Don't know if these are proven as the more scientific methods of WFP.

For water, I also looked into fog catchers. Those things just condensate water from the air, so it's drinkable, even your waste can be used. Problem they haven't solved I think is a contraption that doesn't need electricity.

Now if only there were people selling all these for BTC eh?

I cannot say that I agree with the idea of saving food because we are going to face the food crisis or if we are already facing it, a big part of the food crisis comes from people and the demand they have. So they should buy more and collect everything in their homes because of the crisis. At the same time, this will increase the demand and create a hostile atmosphere and other people will also try to do the same thing and this will increase the price and worst, also since we should pay attention to how long you can save the foods, I'm sure that's not a long time, regardless of that in my idea the root of the food crisis is partly because of the war between Russia and Ukraine and another part can be related to the crisis of water.

Interesting thread, just yesterday I read an article about the updated disaster recommendation how every person can prepare for themselves. It basically sad to have 20 litres of water and 14 kilo of food per person to last 10 days without leaving the house. In crisis times these supplies could also be stretched to 20 days, but it still doesn't seem a lot to me. I am trying now to store provision for a longer period of time. Your 45 days approach seems like a good start. I like your variety of canned goods to not be forced to eat the same thing every day. Canned goods are good if you have space to store, if you are limited on space I would recommend different food. Take a look at the army or mountaineer rations, they very lightly packed because they don't contain any water. Like that they last forever and you can pack a lot of them on each other. The only problem is you need a lot of more water to prepare the meals. One solution can be a water purification system at home that cleans public water. Another thing I would add is vitamin supplements and medicine to make sure we don't get sick.

Having a supply of food for 3 weeks is normally enough for most emergencies. If you realize that it will be longer, you can usually ration the 3-week supply for longer. My changes are based on observations related to the war (Ukraine) and how people were surviving in cases where you really couldn't buy food. Meat and nuts aren't a priority because you can survive without both and food supplies are for survival purposes. Same goes for cans of peaches and pears (unless it's a diabetic thing because you need to ensure you aren't low on sugar, but even for that you should probably store something smaller and more reliable). Water is a must if there is a risk there won't be any or it will be very unsafe to get any, but again, in case of emergency, you can survive on less water than you might normally drink, not to mention all the fluids on the cans themselves. So having 50 litres of water is probably enough. Cans with beans are good, but I'd also add rice, pasta, wheat or something like that because these can make other things last much longer (for example, you can ear chickpeas with rice), and it's more filling. If you are out of electricity, you might have gas. If you're out of gas, you can probably cook on fire. If you're a diabetic and you need meds or there's a chance you'll need them when a diet changes, you must store a healthy supply of meds as well.

The pandemic and lockdown may have trained me from this. I don't want to but it's necessary.
2 years ago or maybe 3. Stayed at home for almost a month. Foods bought at the supermarket once a month and then drinking supply that also last that long.
There's a difference though, I am not diabetic so I guess health issues will surely be something to think about prepping. And then electricity.
I got rice, pasta, canned goods, sardines, tuna, beans, dried fish, frozen goods, nuts (yes this will definitely be a life saver), chocolates.
But the thing with rice and pasta is you need fire, so storing gas will be a necessity. Canned butane are sold in the market that will be loaded in a portable gas stove with the exact size to fit it.

I certainly agree with the suggestion that you gave. The pandemic situation also trained me to stock and store foods that could last for a longer period. When buying, always check the expiration date for your safety and assurance. More than anything else, store rice and secure gas as well as clean water. Don't focus on junk foods and those that won't make you full. You also need to store medicine and vitamins. I guess, if we've been through lockdowns during the worse pandemic situation, we've all learned our lesson when it comes to storing and stocking important supplies.

I am just responding to this with a lay man understanding and general thinking of any human creature. Because looking at this from the beginning then you will understand that there is no amount of food you can store for one and the two persons to survive for an annual or three years that will not get spoilt. If you think of storage of food for long time and  also think of  spoilage of food. So no how you can store food that will serve you for four years.

Say you gotta solve your problems within 4 years then.

What else would one need?

About the can food. People don't eat it so it tends to run out of date. I think it's from some romantic memory.

Fresh frozen. Same story.

parmalot is milk in a box keeps for months no cooling needed.

Let me tell you my take on this issue. We in Ukraine also have reasons to think about some reserve. The first weeks after the new terrorist attack of the Kremlin bastards (I live in Kiev, the attack began on February 24, 2022), the prospects were not very positive, and we came to the conclusion that we should probably prepare.
We prepared a little in advance (by the way, I also recommend it if there are risks of global problems)
1. Having a home, tactical backpacks. Pre-assembled and stocked. What do we still have in our backpacks?
- hygiene products: soap, toothpaste, toothbrush, deodorant, sets of wet wipes 10 packs * 50 pcs., antiseptic (in 25 ml spray bottles, 5 pcs.), 5 packets of "dry shower", comb
- underwear: underwear, T-shirts, socks. All cotton (reduces hygiene issues). Warm socks.
- 2 liters of plain water, in a container of 250-400 ml, preferably with the addition of silver (a simple way to disinfect water and increase the shelf life, but it must be changed at least once every 2 months!).
- Cereal bread. 5-6 packs, divided into daily sets.
- Dark chocolate. The most pure and the most containing cocoa. 2 tiles
- Snickers bars 5 pcs. Yes, not the most useful product, especially for those who have problems like diabetes, but very effective.
- Canned food - lard twisted with parsley, garlic and black pepper. An extremely satisfying dish, with a minimum volume. It is completely absorbed by the body and does not give side effects. in vacuum bags of 100 grams, 1 kg total.
- scissors, multi-tool, knife
- Fleece jacket. Tactical hat (convenient and comfortable). Tactical gloves. Spare belt.
- Money (in local currency and dollars, the total equivalent for each is approximately 3000-4000 dollars)
- Documents and copies of documents that may be with you.
- Powerbank, one for 20000, the other compact for 10000. 2x universal type-c cables, with Mini-Usb + type-C termination
- Compass
- Tourist flashlight
- The simplest mobile phone, with maximum autonomy, charged.
- Medications: adhesive plaster (packaging), stopping tourniquet, painkiller, antidiarrheal, bandage, anti-inflammatory, antihistamine, drugs to stabilize the intestines and stomach, activated charcoal, potassium permanganate. Well, who needs special preparations - them, depending on the degree of significance. Also multivitamins, divided into 10-20 pieces per sachet, 90 pieces (for 3 months of daily intake)

In the remaining place - whoever wishes from the personal :)
This is the first part !

The second part.

Stocks of food. What is good for us is that in the complex where I have an apartment, in the basement equipped as a bomb shelter (but not originally intended for this), storage rooms were also sold. From 4 to 15 meters. We bought 15 meters.
There, 2-3 weeks after the start of the terrorist attack on Kyiv and the region, they collected the following:
- drinking water, mineralized, about 12 packs (6 bottles * 1.5 liters, per pack)
- canned food (stewed pork, as the most nutritious and satisfying product, although perhaps not the most useful :)). It was difficult to buy, but they were periodically imported, but they gave me and my son as rations (we serve in the territorial defense units of Kyiv). Total collected about 40 cans (450 grams)
- Crackers and bread. Packs 30-40.
- Again, canned twisted lard (lard, garlic, parsley, dill, black pepper). in jars of 200 g, sterile closed, 2 kg.
- Chocolate, protein bars, dried berries, raisins, nuts (almonds, hazelnuts, cashews)
- Inflatable mattresses - 4 pcs. Fleece covers 4 pcs. inflatable pillows, 4 pcs.
- Dog food :)

After the russian terrorists were destroyed in Kyiv and the Kyiv region, most of the stocks were donated to charity, and the longest stored was left in the basement, just in case.


Oh yes, and most importantly - I wish you that this will never come in handy for you!

I do not imagine that any ordinary person is able to store enough food for more than two or three months at the latest, unless he has enough storage machines for longer periods. In the past, people have devised practical ways to store food for long periods, but this is not available to everyone, and if circumstances require a person to secure his food needs for a long period, I do not think he will survive for longer than a month or two.

Well to all thanks for info.

With monkey pox growing worldwide
With polio coming back to USA first case in 11 years
With continued covid variant whatever.

With New Jersey now having tornadoes 5x as much as they used to have. Still not that many.

With hurricanes being stronger and more often.


Plus my lovely government  as many others does not seem to know WTF it is doing

I dwell on what to do for some safety.

In case of minor major issue.

Any 1 year problem means Death as a very likely outcome.

But shorter issues happen more.

long power outages due to storms are big now.
I always keep 7 to days worth of food and water.
I also have propane generator.
Some guns ammo
and a few bulletproof vests.

Not sure what more I should do.

If USA goes to a civil war I do not expect to survive that.

But longer storm issues are going to happen.

I think we need to have a dry fruits and biscuits and water bottle. To save up oneself from any energy if there is any looming
But there is no need to save so much extra food. Because sometime that doesn't happen at all.

As the above user suggested if you were able to save dry fruits then it is able to be kept for a longer time period. For example if you're keeping Banana, it'll be wasted within a week. Same if you dry it and keep it on air tight containers it'll last for much longer time period. I don't know will people follow this and all in your country. In my region people used to dry banana and it is mostly exported and gives better revenue for the farmers. The price gets doubled when dried.

Yep, a dehydrator plus a vacuum packaging solves the problem of long-term food storage without dependence on electricity (no need for a refrigerator, just a dark, cool place). Moreover, it is possible to dry not only fruits, but also vegetables and meat in a dehydrator. Powerful industrial dehydrators cost a lot of money, but small home dehydrators are quite affordable.

with airtight it will keep food fresh and we can enjoy it for a long time, indeed vacuum is an easy choice to control the availability of food ingredients, on the other hand maybe we can store food that has been preserved traditionally, without any preservatives, such as as well as a smoking system for marine fish, so it can be stored for a relatively long period of time

I'll put into stock of course basic necessities that are easy to be eaten and even many don't like processed foods and cans, it's really part of my list.
And along with it is liters of clean water, whether they're mineral, distilled as long as they're clean. That's one of the most important thing for survival, because we can survive for a few days by just having water and I think that will be enough and me as a family man, it's not just for me and my wife but also for our kid. Honestly, I'd like to thank you philip for this topic, you just made me remember my plan about this because of the on going food shortage. Cash is also needed at these times even we're crypto folks and investors, when there are crisis like this, cash is king.

That's a good idea since a fresh fruit can get damaged easily but dried fruits can last little more longer and what's better with that is that they didn't take much space. You can just store them in any containers even plastic bags. Another benefit of them is that they are so nutritious even if you will just consume a little.

This is definitely one of the best foods for survival. Better if we can prepare a bag of them now in our home just in case unexpected events happens. On what country you are in the way? Must be from Asia? Because, I already saw they have that product you are talking about. Not only this food helps others, this will also help your country even more.

Each of us can be in a different situation when it comes to prepping. I live in a house with my own well so I'd have large supply of water. We also have a generator so in case of emergency we'd be able to use a fridge and a freezer at least for a few days. I also have a propane tank. If I were to store food for a month I'd go with different types of flour a bag of potatoes onions and apples. With flour and yeast you can make buns even without an oven. You just need a fireplace and the rest can be held for months in a cellar and you can fry boil or bake them and use for a hundred dishes as long as you have some other things like milk, eggs, butter.

Canned and dry food is fine but it can get boring after a week. Don't forget the little things that brighten up our day like coffee, tea, alcohol, maybe some dried meat, fruit juices. Drinking bottled water for a month can be really depressing.

With long term food storage, it is important to have a supplementary source of long term vitamin C. Methods of preservation like food dehydration are known to completely eliminate vitamin C from foods. Dehydrated fruits and vegetables will not contain the vitamin C one might expect which can complicate things over the long term. Freeze drying might also reduce vitamin C, I'm not 100% certain. It could affect freeze dried food items like MREs.

Another key factor is ambient temperature. Storing food at lower temperatures will cause them to last significantly longer. Having a basement or wine cellar that is cooler than norms, is the best place to store food items for the long run. Regions with higher average temperatures can expect food items to spoil and go bad at a faster rate.

Fermented foods are a good method to create long term food items for storage, using common grocery store items, without special skills or equipment.

Bottling and canning are both obtainable skills in this day and age. With plenty of information, support and resources.

noodles, rice,pasta may fill the stomach. but does not save off from malnutrition

take the third world countries. they are handed free bags of the stuff you mentioned. yet they have distended stomachs(bloating) but nutritionally they are starved

research: Kwashiorkor

you need protein. though pasta,rice,noodles does have some protein. rice is the worse
noodles/pasta has 5%, rice has 2.5%
but there are other sources of protein

a 100gram piece of meat contains 28% of protein.
meaning if you had 400g tin can of meat you would need 4KG of rice to get the same nutrition. which is more storage space needed and also not really feasible to eat that much rice in a day to get the same protein intake

economically. nuts serve as the cheapest option that provide most protein, yet actual meat has many other minerals that nuts alone dont provide. thus ending up needing to buy more then just nuts if you tried avoiding meat storage

mining fan heat can dry tomatoes.

I have two fig trees I will make multiple jars of fig preserves this year. They will keep in mason jars for 18 months.

My thoughts here are more short term. Ie new pandemic. Here in USA 🇺🇸 they let us go to supermarkets to shop. But if I am stocked well I can not rush to supermarket until we find out how bad new pandemic may be.

Last one my wife and I got sick before it was officially annouced. I e December 2019 and Jan 2020.

She went into the hospital 10 days in Jan 2020 and again in Oct 2020. Finally recovered in June of 2021.

The actual covid lasted from December 2019 to March 2020. All of the rest of the time was recovering from all the damage she had. My long term issues from it have improved.

But I kind of want a 30 day cushion to just stay in my house is I chose to. whether for covid of it there is a new hurricane and no good food source.

dark rich chocolate bars are pretty good.

and of course home made vanilla vodka.Which I always like to have at least a liter of.😀

This is a good topic. I’m not embarrassed to admit that I’m a bit of a prepper myself. I’m moving soon and will have more space to store things so I’ve been asking myself these same questions lately too. I’ve got a bug out kit set up for a small journey and I keep those “survival” meal bars that last for several years in my bag. I imagine some preppers would recommend storing some of those bars amongst other things. Their main deal is being high in everything so if you’re really in need of substance these things will fill you with proper fats/cals, proteins, carbs etc.

In this case, you just need to create an additional buffer at home between your dining table and the supermarket, ideally independent of the electricity supply to the house - some kind of dry, dark, cool place like a pantry. And use the rule "Store what you eat, eat what you stock" to avoid unnecessary headaches with checking the expiration date of stocked products and not throwing some of the expired supplies into the garbage dump.

Many products have their own expiration dates. If you use them as the deadlines run out, you can buy quite a lot. The problem will always be with water. You can eat less, but water should be consumed without saving on it. Otherwise, health problems will arise that will not be helped by a large supply of food.

Another question, a month or more, under what circumstances will the question of survival arise? And also the meaning, if here, for example, they talked about nuclear war? If we talk about global cataclysms, what can change if someone can extend their life by a few months? :)

Canned food is okay but if you intake it for too long, it might not good for your health. From that point, I think you should brand out more. If I live away from the city, in a suburban arena, I'd try to set up a chicken coop. Good source of eggs daily and maybe chicken meat too if you know how to prepare a live chicken. I know your rules about no fresh meat but poultry feed for those chickens is easy to store. Require just a little time per day to feed and collect their eggs too.

Agree, water is the biggest issue here. He can dig a well. From what I've researched, well drilling costs around $25 to $65 per foot to put in complete system installation. The average cost to dig or drill a new water well is $3750 to $15300. Seems like a lot but solve the water issue right away and benefit in a long time.

You can survive or you can eat well. To survive 30 days you don't need a lot of variety in your food. You could get ready to eat daily military rations and have some of those stored in a cool dark place. They usually stay fresh for up to 5 years, but I've seen people eat 20 year old rations. Probably the most tasty and healthy would be frozen precooked food. Like when you make a large amount (10l) of beef goulash with a ton of veggies, pack it into portions and freeze it. It can be eaten with bread, rice, potatoes, pasta, whatever you can get, and it will provide plenty nutrients.
If I had the choice I'd rather hold frozen natural food than meat and bean cans.


I know a guy who seems to get all his nutrients from alcohol. Every time I see him, he drinks, or is drunk. I've seen him work on neighbor's land and I gave him a small job to do on mine. Both times all he wanted to drink was beer and he never ate anything. Apparently beer has a lot of calories.

I think you should go for dried foods to reduce weight and have more foods to store. I assume the Cans and liquid will add alot to food weight and make it difficult to transport large amounts of foods to different locations.
Better to carefully dry the foods in ways that preserve their nutrients. And this could help you reduce the need for nutritional supplements...i will advice you dry alot of nutrient-rich vegs & fruits like Moringa leaves, berries etc.... Meats can also be dried... and cereals, legumes, etc are typically dried. You could use durable light weight materials to store them.
It's also important to have people you can exchange foods with,  buying & selling with Cryptocurrency like Bitcoin incase of prolonged crisis or food shortages. I choose crypto due to the possibility of fiat currency inflation due to shortages

We have experienced this seriously in Türkiye. Supply problems occurred due to both the pandemic and the war conditions. In addition, due to the expected price hikes in the prices of some products, there was serious stockpiling. For us, we can say that every day is like this here in Türkiye.
We store durable food products. We always keep the refrigerator full. We use freezer if available.
We have not experienced many bad situations so far, but we predicted what could happen. Short-term supply shortages occurred. We always kept dry legumes, rice and pasta at home. Canned products are also in the warehouse. Everyone knows how to make bread at home.
When we think about what we've been through in the last few years, we realized that this is not paranoid at all, and that everyone needs to be prepared.
We have made it a habit to live in a house full of supplies by paying attention to the expiration dates. In spite of everything, if a big event happens, it's very difficult to last more than 3-4 months honestly.

People's answer will vary from person to person depending on their location and how things are, I will give an answer based on my location and the current situation of things. To survive for a long time in Nigeria there are some essentials that you must consider, we usually have personal boreholes and do not depend on the government for water supply as well as gas for cooking, Electricity has never been constant so PMS in drums(if possible) is a must have to power your borehole most importantly first. If you plan surviving for a long time keeping foodstuffs that need refrigerating or be kept frozen may be a bad idea as it will mean that you PMS is at the risk of finishing faster. Keeping grains, cereals, tubers and lots of processed products plus enough of the things needed for the grains to be edible is what is adviced.

I say this having experienced a very serious total lockdown for over twenty five days alone on my own.

Of Course - also there is another option of having an organic garden too. So that you get some fresh fruits and vegetables at home.
some people also keep poultry at home - so rather than storage have some organic regular supply at home.

It's  just a horrible situation, one very unimaginable should such situation go beyond human control. Not to think of those that can't even afford making available certain provisions that can keep them going for just 7days not to talk of 30days and beyond.

May God help us all.

You might consider dry aging some of your meat if you're planning to keep these items for long. You can keep them in a separate refrigerator (if you have one) and let it sit there until you need them. Most of the fresh items can only last for 2 weeks, so better come up with a way to preserve them longer. Also, having a backyard garden can help you save storage space and some bags of groceries.

Personally, I can realistically store food for myself for more than a month. I have two refrigerators and a separate freezer for meat storage, which I consider a vital part of my diet. The rest are just canned goods while the fresh produce I get locally from our market.

If you are not lactose intolerant, powdered milk could be a good alternative to still have proper intake of calcium and can also be used when eating cereals. Since you're diabetic, find a product of that is low in sugar. Fresh egg can last a couple of days and it's also quick and easy to cook. Canned tuna has no carb but rich in protein so it can be a great addition if you can eat those type of food.

Powered milk may have too much sugar.

I would likely use :

canned tuna
canned chicken
spam
a jar of solid coconut fat
boxed salt free chicken broth
bottled water and water filters
vitamins
powered calcium
72 and 88 percent chocolate bars
a few bottles of vanilla vodka.
plus I have 2 fig trees which will make about 30  quarts of fig preserves.


as I said this is more for the new pandemic trick they may pull on us then it would be for a war.
also in case of a hurricane
I do have 3x 20 pound cans of propane  and a generator that uses propane.

FOr many reason many people are turning to keto for weight and diabetes control
Life is good if we eat simple food and live a simple life.
And care for the people around. Life will be really good.

Dehydrated foods are good for long-term storage, you can't argue with that. But in difficult conditions they have a disadvantage. Dehydrated foods lead to an increase in water consumption. Otherwise - a violation of the kidneys, circulatory and lymphatic systems. Some foods (such as meat) contain salts, which can also lead to swelling and fluid retention in the tissues, but this is not the same as not having to drink water, fluid stagnation is also a negative process. Fruit dehydration increases the concentration of sucrose and fructose, which also leads to additional thirst and increases fluid intake, which is one of the most valuable foods. In a word - for critical situations, products are needed that will not provoke fluid intake.

I usually store food items that can last me through out the year cause of the constant rise of food items in my country but i usually store non-perishable items that took long time before they spoil. The economic situation in my country is not that great one has to always planned ahead to survive it.

You are right and it doesn't matter if you have a separate water strategy and drinking water supply. There are too many advantages to dehydrated foods to ignore without trying to make up for the shortcomings.

I am lucky. because I live in remote areas. a little inland. but not a primitive interior because technology has even advanced here. but with a natural environment of mountains and flowing rivers. the water is so clean, the air is so fresh.

and most importantly we don't worry about food. because my house is surrounded by plantations and rice fields. and each house has its own livestock for their own consumption. so we used to eat meat, eggs and fresh milk.

and if the land dries up for example due to extreme weather changes that result in crop failure. so in the river and in the forest there are still many wild plants that can be used as food. even if our livestock catches the plague. then we can hunt in rivers and in mountains to get wild animals or fish.

so food supply is not a problem. even the harvest season is approaching. and our crops are rice and tubers which of course can be preserved even up to 1 year. so from the harvest we can save it for food reserves for at least 1 year.

we are not used to canned food. although many are sold in supermarkets. but very few fans. because we are used to eating from crops and livestock that are managed by ourselves.

so basically we can stock up food supplies for 1 year.

I think that this varies from one country to another. Here in my country, for example, people tend in crises to stock up on basic foodstuffs such as bulgur, rice, wheat, beans, chickpeas, lentils, flour and sugar. These are the main materials here in my country. I think this is due to the different dietary habits in each country.
Also, you forgot the issue of children. If there are children, you need to add more quantities, because every family consists of at least a husband, wife and two children, so you need to add some other items related to children.

dried beans
dried chickpeas last a long time.
dried meats work.

I wouldn’t bother storing anything. Imagine situation where world is sinking and there are riots everywhere and you are the person with big store of food somewhere in the underground room and the news flashes in between hungry and desperate people. They gonna crazy about it and will go nuts to loot it up.

Saw the news of Sri Lankan presidential outbreak? Well you might have seen how every single person marched into their kitchen just to get handful of food.

That’s how situation can go out of hands.

I would rather hunt in jungle and try to survive.

That's true, in the past I've seen similar situation with Venezuela where people looting stores just for food. Even now those videos can be seen on YouTube. More countries are to face such situation.

As said moving to the jungle for survival is truly gonna happen, because it is like a cyclic process. Initially man lived along with animals and slowly things changed and now the same is returning.

.There is another concept of rooftop gardening and balcony gardening.
Rather than storing your food grow your fruits and vegetable I have made a small garden on my own and we are happy we get Frurits and vegetable supplies. form our home ..

But you can't grow everything you eat and if you say you can survive only with veggies then roof garden is not going to help you because this topic is all about natural calamities so those garden maybe completely wiped out due to rain or hurricane, etc which means you will starve for food if you didn't have stored food.

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Interestingly I saw a film where people stuck in their safe storage but they had enough food supplies for two to 3 decades for a family of 3 and the food supplies shown there was about size of a mini mart.

It is foolish to argue about the qualitative characteristics of dehydrated products. They keep perfectly and for a long time, they retain nutrients, minerals and vitamins. But in certain situations, their use can create additional problems. And if a person does not have sufficient supplies of clean drinking water, then this is the very unpleasant situation. It just needs to be taken into account, and at least have a workaround - to have an adequate supply of water purification tablets, because. very often, after global or local cataclysms, drinking water becomes one of the most inaccessible products. Total - add more tablets to your backpack to purify contaminated water. The taste is certainly not the most pleasant, but the body will not suffer.

No offense - but I would not rely on religion in a difficult situation. Human life is the highest value, and neither the aggressor nor the natural disaster has the right to take it.
But if it comes to that, and religion is so significant to you - religion says that man is "the son of God, created in the likeness of the Creator." Therefore, decisions to save the life of the "son of God" should still be made in order to justify the hope and efforts of the Almighty! Nobody forces you to keep a food warehouse, but if natural disasters are not uncommon and systemic, you must be prepared to resist attempts to destroy the fruit of the work of higher forces! :)

The level of food we needed in life is unlimited I think because we need enough in our daily lives
When there is sufficient of food we are okay and we feel alive but when it gets exhausted I think there is a problem
The only estimation your can give on food is the meal that can make up your day neglecting the next day because surely you must eat
It is advisable to store as much as available food because it is a source of energy

sorry asking this question but you dont have to answer my question when and why you get diabetic it is from parent or just you recently have. Recently I have 110 Blood sugar level is this still at normal level.

and I think for survival we need medicine too right?
like insulin in your case
some painkillers mefenamic acid, ibuprofen or other types of painkiller
multivitamin
antibiotic and other basic drug

Yes you are right because as day goes by our need increases we need enough food to survive that's why people work 24/7 in other to provide for their various families.
Most time we misunderstand the main reason why we work all day, the only reason I can see is to afford food and other items needed for our personal hygiene

That is a great plan. We never know when will the natural calamity or another pandemic will occur. Like what happened during the pandemic when the government declared the restrictions during the pandemic, it restricted the people of going out and it ends out people in a panic buying situations because they were not able to store foods and other necessities they needed. Same with calamity like hurricane, earthquake etc. How lucky are the people who can store and save food in times of calamity and pandemic, Because a lot of people do not have the capacity to buy excess food for storing in times of calamity and pandemic. But as for me i will store some food in preparation for calamity and pandemic little by little. As per your lists above just in case calamity and pandemic will not occur maybe you can consume them before they reach expiry and make it a point that you will buy some replacement so that food you stored will not go to waste.

Working all day is not the ideal job and for me it's important to keep a balance,
indeed we need money to make ends meet but if we work like 24/7 it might create new problems such as experiencing body pain or something else,
it is also important to manage our work.

Yes, of course we have to be prepared for that if we don't have an investment or a business that provides income every day for us.
But what is most realistic in my opinion is that we have to work and save regardless of what we are going to do with those savings for the future, but in life we do have to be on guard for unpredictable emergency expenses.

To be able to survive, of course, we must have a lot of food stocks, ideally if something bad happens, for example a war, we need more food stocks, but if the situation is safe, stocks for only a few days are better because the food is fresher.

Buying more bitcoin is profitable but try to save some amount of cash for emerged purposes as you will need it and you will not be able to sell your bitcoin  at the time when the price will down. You buy bitcoin at a good price and I hope you will have still hold your bitcoin for profit so if you have then you will definitely achieve maximum amount of profit now as the price of bitcoin is above 31k$.

You will see more opportunities to get more revenue as the price goes more up during halving therefore try to be patience and wait some more to be a wealthy person. Bitcoin investor surely get the desire outcomes during the favourable condition so wait few months more to see how profitable investment it is.

More precisely what you said was not to manage work, but rather to manage work time for everyone. Because when someone works more hours, it is certain that he will experience more fatigue, although sometimes this can also affect more income. But not always those who work more hours can get more income because there are also people in life who work more hours just because they have less income so they try to earn more by using their time excessively.

This is more about how to use time at work along with utilizing existing income for business and investment matters so that a person does not have to spend more time working all day long which in the end can be bad for his body's health. So besides having to be smart in choosing a worker who has more income benefits, less time considerations must also be considered because it also has benefits for our own health.

Stocking up more food for life also requires a lot of capital money so you basically also have to have a job that can give you money so you can stock up on food the way you want because now it's very difficult to get food for free every day . So the basic roots remain in jobs that can make money before someone does something good for his own life.

If the internet goes down - and it's entirely possible - your bitcoin savings will become nothing. And you won't be able to eat bitcoin. It's intangible. So you simply need to have a two to three month supply of food. And you need to constantly be updating it.

Well I think you need to tell us your food consumption rate ad also how is that if your wife like then I think a conclusion can be drawn, although when eating now without any restrictions is different from when eating for survival only, I think you are more rational in the later than the former.

So this is how I think the math Can go, you calculate your intake, starting any time and after 7day you can be able to have a record of what you eat normally in a week and then after that you can divide that and estimate how much food you have to store for 30 day to survive.

Rule of thumb you should always store upwards of 3 months especially if its to prepare for disaster aftermaths like hurricanes and earthquakes. It's reasonable to think that things will get better in a month anyway but if you're struck at ground zero recovery will take longer so just to be safe, save some for yourself and your family for as longer as possible. As for the price, while I'm not really sure how much things are exactly in the US, in the country where I live it's within upwards of 800 bucks for 3 months of canned food and goods as well as sanitary kits and other important stuff. If ever, it may cost you guys upwards of I guess a thousand to 1600 bucks in the US.

You can't put a price on the safety and security of your family anyway so I don't think you should cheap out especially in stuff like these.

I was thinking of dried food as well. It's easier to consume and store, also allows you a bigger space for other food supplies since it will only take a small portion for storage.

And yes, it is always better to be ready or at least just have a general idea of what to do in case something such as what op posted happens.

I guess seems as you can and possible we know that in this cases scenario there's a lot of things might happen and might cause for the shortage of the supply so the number of people will surely hoarding too and accumulate them as many as they can get so they can survive, on this you need to make a budget for the meal and the supply to make sure you can survive, if this number of supply is not enough already before its already gone make sure you can find another source, we don't know until it will last long so for your family make sure you are knowledgeable what are the essential more things, the government sure will provide a services needs to their community to help you. Also the body can use alternative way of using source of energy if you don't have any.

I am a person who is not too afraid of tomorrow because I believe that tomorrow will be a great day, many people are too afraid of the future so they do everything including storing groceries in the warehouse, and I think this is a waste because when we want to use it The quality of the food is reduced.

I think as much as we can, depends on how big or small the house is. You need a big storage if you want to store a lot water and foods, you need to have a good security too otherwise a criminal would steal your foods.

Did your forget about corona virus in 3 years ago? I don't think 2 years old baby can know Bitcointalk and write a post.

Many people were panic buying a lot foods, toilet paper, mask, hand sanitizer, vitamin C, etc at that time. Many people were lost their jobs, if you were one of them and don't have any saving, you wouldn't post like this.

This seems positive, but we realize this when the pandemic hits: it is not working all the time because if you haven't stored much food at that time and you just buy it by tomorrow, you'll be left with nothing to eat. It is best to be ready with just food that can last a week or even just a few days because it saves you money and also saves you time. Also, you won't be buying any food that only lasts for a day, so make sure that you put it in the refrigerator to preserve it.

We already did it when the conflict hit in the province where I live, the status of military operation that was imposed in our area gave people unable to work as usual. Most of the people in my village prefer producing food rather than storing food to survive. We have to be super active in utilizing the empty land around our house, such as planting rice, tomatoes, chilies, pumpkins and other young plants whose fruits and leaves are edible.
In addition, keeping poultry such as chickens and ducks is a must because fresh fish is very hard to come by due to the limited number of fishermen looking for fish. With the availability of basic needs that are produced from the garden, we can enjoy fresh food every day without having to spend money to buy it.
That's how we do to survive in difficult situations.

I'm an IFBB Pro and I follow the same diet too :D High Protein, High fat (healthy fats) and low carb diet when I want to keep my bodyfat levels low and look shredded.
By the way, maybe you already do this but keep in mind that high protein diet damages kidneys and control your creatinine levels.

99.99% of multivitamins are a waste of money, time and health. I suggest you to buy certain vitamins/minerals that you lack and always do research to determine which form of that certain vitamin/mineral is absorbed by the body.
For example, we all lack magnesium and it's better to supplement with it every day but the problem is that most magnesium forms aren't absorbed. For example, when you buy magnesium oxide, you are wasting your money because body can't absorb it well, in this case, you better buy Magnesium Glycinate or Bisglycinate.
If you want to buy Zinc, you better buy Zinc Picolinate to get the most out of it.
If you want to buy L-carnitine, you better buy L-carnitine-l-tartrate. Or probably Acetyl-L-carnitine if you mostly want to take care of mental health instead of physical bodyfat.
By the way, the only multivitamins that I know is really good compared to others, is Pure Encapsulation's O.N.E™ Multivitamin.

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I know it's an old post and it's not probably the right time to answer your question but I think the value of information that I wrote is high and probably interesting for everyone.

Storage of goods in the form of food must also be chosen accordingly so as not to store them excessively, because if it is to meet daily needs which can be obtained at a cheaper price, I think it is also not wrong if someone wants to store them in moderation in a safe place. does not reduce the quality of the food itself. I also agree with what you said on the point of waste if it is stored in excess, but if it is only stored as needed, I think that is a very reasonable thing and is not included in the waste.

Wow, I can't believe it's been almost exactly one year since I wrote this post. 

As I mention above, I'm a bit of a prepper myself and over the course of this past year I have moved, and I do have a lot more space to store things in case the economy or even the world goes belly up, but I've run in to a few tough situations. 

For one, my basement is quite damp.  I do run a dehumidifier 24/7, and I know this helps, but I still fear for long term storage. 

What I wanted to ask today is, does anyone know of good sites that sell pre-made food kids that are actually affordable?

Reserves are good preventative measures, they can deal with any number of possible mishaps. In countries with significant risks of all kinds, they are highly used tools.. but that is for those who have the possibility, generally many people do not and this is reflected in many ways, as mentioned in previous comments. Also in your case you require a special diet due to your health condition. I am a bit ignorant about these issues, but I can say a couple of things with certainty, sometimes as the pandemic has shown, a reserve for 45 days is not enough and in the same way many people put nutrition aside to prioritize survival in scenarios like this, it all depends on the particular conditions of each person

That is a good plan for the upcoming pandemic or even a natural calamity. Even me i would do the same because we never know when will be the next calamity or pandemic will occur. Based on your plan I think 30 days stocking would be good enough to sustain your needs  in times of calamities. We really must think and plan ahead of time before something serious calamity might occur.

during a pandemic, stocks of food ingredients that we need are really needed to meet our daily needs, I think it's very good to make stock for at least the next 30 days, so that we can still think about being able to look for stock the following month due to food shortages. and of course we must start to learn to look for alternative food nutrients that can meet the body's needs, so that if one is difficult to find, then we can still meet our nutritional needs every day

I don't think, such thing will ever happen to the world for all the food shopping shut down because many people will find it difficult to cope at the moment because of the nature of their job which they will not have the time to go to the market to buy food stuff and other things from the market. People prefer to save money to buy any kind of food from ShopRite because no matter the huge amount of food you store in your house, time will come you will be hungry of something that is not inside the house, and if you don't have the money at the moment you can't get it to solve the issue. I don't have any amount of food I can store for survival because I don't spend much time at home because of the nature of my job.

I still can't believe some people are like this, there is really no reason for this and we do not need to end up with anything that is better. I hope that it gets to a point where it is better and we reach to a level where we can talk about how great this is but most of the time we probably won't.

I just hope that people could realize the magnificent of this situation and realize that what they are talking about is not that easy, it's a bit harder to handle. So just give up on the whole food thing, and just buy as much as you need for the moment and eat like that. I can honestly tell you that if I do not buy any food anymore, I can survive probably like 48 hours to 72 hours at most, that's the max I can survive, because that's the longest I plan.

Pretty close to how things are running in my country too, I normal like buying foods at home and it serves two people for six months, the most costly one is rice and beans, the reason why I choose to do this is because of investment, after doing this, I have 6 months to restock food at home, that's enough time to start buying Bitcoin for long term hold, only emergencies will interfere with my plan and so far since last year there hasn't been any emergencies, carbohydrate foods are the most common here, fruits are other options I use on daily bases to make sure I am healthy.

I learnt this from my parent, they said it helped them when they are struggling, that's before I was born, sometimes their business will go up and sometimes down, so storing of food at home is helpful and less worrying to run the family..

The world ha learned a lot from covid19 and there is no need to stock so much food in case there is any new pandemic. During Covid19 the biggest lesson learned and which is still in practise is that home delivery services are as good as you go and buy yourself. There are regions which have more poverty then rest of world like India, Pakistan, Bangladesh - majority of people living there don't have much resources or money to stock food for even 7 days. I wish and pray that we dont have any more pandemic in near future.

The thing my parents always said to me was "If you don't have any money saved at least you should have food supplies"
If I break it down a little. Savings are indeed very necessary to answer problems that occur in the future as well as food supplies which are very important in case you run out of food later. For example; Farmers save food supplies in case of later crop failure.

For me personally, apart from saving, I also always prepare food supplies. Because the staple food at my place is rice, I always store it in unhulled form so that it can last a long time with supplies for three people, namely 200 kg of unhusked rice/rice which is expected to be used to survive for 4 months. As for side dishes such as sardines, canned meat and others, I personally don't really care about them because I raise a number of livestock such as chickens and ducks and they can be used as side dishes.

The problem is that everyone doesn't know when the next natural disaster will come, because nature never gives an alarm when it wants to show disaster to everyone. However, I also think that it is wise to make food stocks once a month because that is the ideal duration of stocks for everyone and it's also not that long before we make more new food stocks in the next month. Because making food stocks is not solely for the purpose of natural disasters, but more for saving in the lives of each of us.

One of the things on why people would caught unprepared because there's no way that we could be able to predict on what would happen or when the next disaster would happen. Just like on the situation that we do

have on covid pandemic but somewhat we could still be able to buy goods and other things which is essential to our daily survival but on the time we do speak about natural disasters on which this is something that
do talks about having no electricity then it would be having no sense on storing up raw foods or something that could spoil out on which it is really that common sense that you would really be going
after with those canned goods and of course we would really be mainly needing water for us to survive. Basing up on the list given on OP then it would really be just that neough or even too much for 2 people for a whole month.

This is why number or quantities would really be entirely be basing up on the number of people or family members.I cant just fathom about having no electricity on 1-2 days. How much more if months?

Well I don't know what is that canned chicken but it may taste bad what is for me would be

30 cans of tuna [spicy and non] lunch
30 cans of black beans [different flavors] breakfast
30 cans which consists of a mix between chickpeas, sweet corn, red beans] dinner
60 bottle of water each 1.5 liter
Couple of snacks and juice powders to mix with the water

Also you can buy some Russian military food as it tastes better than the American one

Pro tip from time to time go to the store and exchange your items with better expiry date ones

surviving on chicken and tomato's for 30 days means you will be in food boredom after a week. and literally h-angry at the lack of choice. so h-angry that your survival time may be reduced purely by fighting in the relationship

be more diverse. there are other tinned vegetables. also you can get some gravy powders and other condiments to diversify a meals taste.

even some basic herbs can help make chicken taste different from one meal to the next. note there are other tinned meats too

All you need to survive is a three-month supply of cereals, seeds, a supply of water or wherever you can get it. Some people advise chicken, but it is very problematic to have it in an urban setting. But you have to consider that there will be crowds of hungry people around who have not had time to make any supplies

Food is essential one of the people, which includes the poor and rich people.So both earn money for their food, they also save money and food item.Mostly they save some reserve for the meat,tomato and some bread.Because we already face the big food crisis period of Covid 19.Even a rich people why it's essential to hold some food reserve to hold for pandemic situation.The economy itself depend on the food for the growth and fall in GDP.It's essential to hold some money for the future to get help during the pandemic situation like Covid.

Wow this seems too interesting. So for me I will keep maybe 10 sacks of rice and canned protein fish and some vegetables and don't forget to stock up on lots of snacks and everything I might buy to deal with events whether it's a new pandemic or something else be it war.

But yes, I see that in the Covid19 era, in some countries they could survive well with sufficient food, for example, they had vegetables that they planted and were also equipped with food deliveries from their neighbors.

For that I do not expect strange things to happen to us in the future. However, we must always be alert to anything and the most important thing is that we save an emergency fund for us to use if anything happens in the future.

Because I'm here in the province, I'm not affected by hunger too much, the vegetable crops and a little sardines, noodles are enough for my family to survive the daily food.We know that government support food is not enough due to lack of resources. So we should know how to plant vegetables in our yard that we can benefit from if the pandemic happens again.

I saw the film 10 Cloverfield Land, if anybody has seen it you will have some ideas. To store food for an emergency, focus on non-perishable items with long shelf lives such as canned goods, dried fruits, nuts, and grains.

Go for foods that require minimal preparation and have high nutritional value. Store them in a cool, dry place away from direct sunlight. Rotate your stock regularly to ensure freshness. Consider vacuum sealed packaging or using food grade storage containers to extend shelf life. Store a shit tonne of clean water and include a manual can opener in your emergency supply kit.

It will be even better if you have land near your house for you to use in terms of growing nutritious fruits and also you can make money from it besides being able to consume it for your own family. Because that is also included in very good preparation for you and also for everyone who wants to do it in case of a pandemic. In addition, the results of nature are also very good resources for every human being so you also need to think about that besides thinking about planting vegetables in front of your house if the land is enough for that.

If you have land, you have the chance to grow many vegetables. If you don't know how to grow vegetables, you can use YouTube.

If you don't have land, it is usually easier to store legumes. This is what I did during the pandemic. They have a long storage life and are filling.

It is also necessary to increase the variety. Eating the same food all the time is not healthy. I hope we do not experience such difficult situations, but we need to think about everything. Perhaps there will be undesirable events such as looting. For this, we have to think as if we will never reach the markets.

YouTube is a valuable resource for those who don't know how to grow vegetables. Even without a land, an individual can still grow vegetables in an old bathtub, a bucket or a crate. The person do not need any too fancy, just with the right soil type, you are good to go.

Agree with this point. Legumes and grains have long shelf life but depends on how it is package and where it is stored. A Ziploc bag is great for packaging legumes and grains. And they should of course be stored in a cool dry place without insects.

Before storing anything for survival what is important than all is ensuring that the storage place has zero rodents, insects and moisture. Proper fumigation should be done.

Food is a kind of raw material so it is not possible to store it for a long time.  So it is foolish to think that one can store food for 5-6 months, but some products can be stored for a long time by freezing, like meat, fish, but vegetables are not possible. No one can store food for more than 1-2 months because of financial problems.  It is possible for some rich people but it is very difficult for some middle class or poor families like mine to store more then 1 week of food.

In the country where I live, I recently received a warning from the Meteorology, Climatology, and Geophysics Agency that some areas would experience drought in certain areas. Now, based on the supplies that you are doing, this reminds me to do the same thing where every time we experience a long drought, clean water will be hard to find. Even though our area is tropical, the presence of factories has resulted in depleting water resources. Apart from preparing clean water from now on using large barrels and traditional wells, food supplies must also be carried out, bearing in mind that usually when the climate starts to change, staple food items are also affected, especially as drink prices have increased drastically. One of the most important supplies is to buy more liquid-containing foods such as watermelons, strawberries, melons, pineapples, oranges, etc. Because after all, when the weather is hot, food with 20% fluid intake is important to keep it from getting dehydrated easily.

In addition to meat and fish that can be frozen for long-term preservation, we also have some dried foods that can also be used for long-term storage.  but of course, they will not be guaranteed quality and will affect our health.  but hoarding food should only be applied when our world has a big event like a pandemic, war...if our lives go on as usual, there is no reason to hoard food.  Food storage also cannot help us avoid the current inflation.

Yes right.Vegetables as fresh as we can eat them will be very good for our human body. But if someone thinks that vegetables can be stored for 5-6 months and his family will live comfortably, he is wrong. Fresh vegetables are always good for us.  If one's financial condition is very bad then he should take another direction. There are some vegetables that cannot be kept in the house for more than 7 days if we try to keep them for a long time we will be very foolish.

Nowadays, everything can be stored for a long time by freezing, but the root of everything is money.  Money is a big problem and it is not possible for everyone to store food for a long time and because of this sometimes when the price of food increases, the poor people sink into despair. People do not store their food for a long time due to which there is not much shortage of food in the country.  If everyone starts storing like this, food will rot and there will be food shortage in the country. So I personally don't like the food hoarding aspect

Research in nutritional sciences shows that foods do not have to reach the degree of complete dryness to remain valid for long periods. Rather, all that is needed to extend their shelf life is to reduce the water activity to a certain rate. This helps that many foods can be stored without spoiling and only by processing their ingredients. The same applies even to bread, which research laboratories have been able to create additions capable of keeping it fresh.
People are accustomed to producing ideas that help them preserve foods for as long as possible, especially since military armies needed these solutions to carry foods that provide the necessary daily calories and at the same time not be costly to taxpayers.

Quite alright but if you don't store food like those ones that won't get spoilt (that's if you have more of the type that can rotten in less than a day) how can the common man manage, knowing that the poor don't have what would preserve it.
Like you said "money is everything" if the poor man doesn't have money he can't store food because he can't buy. Is difficult to even say one can be able to store food and the stomach have this bad habit of itching someone when there seems to be less food. To me if there's money then storage of food won't be a problem but you can't tell how much food would be enough.

And what we are going to do after 30 days? I have watched a few shows about preppers, and what they do is a little crazy (or a lot)... even the guy who teaches his son how to make bullets, if the zombies show up and they spend all the ammo it would be good to know how to make more!!! Is that normal?

Here the older people say that one goat and a few chickens can feed the family... it's how you survive in the long run. But in the event that some big shit happens and there is some big pollution on our planet we are doomed... except for these super rich people who build bunkers with 5 stars and fly to the moon in their rockets... like in the movies.

As a True Nomad or Bitcoin/crypto enthusiast It's important to Travel Light  in survival situation which will likely have lots of lawlessness. No need to be walking long distance with heavy equipments, drinks, foods etc. Just get yourself light-weight things to collect/produce clean water and good foods. Get list of strong, light and adjustable tools to make things like shelter, animal traps, fire, cloths, containers... things to extract raw material for making other important/necessary things like tools for farming etc. Get some books and writing materials. Then extra stuff you don't immediately need could be stored somewhere.
It's mportant to have multiple underground storages where things with long shelf life like dried foods, drugs, etc can be stored for emergencies.


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In some situations you need to store things for a long time.It is not meant that you are hoarding but sometimes in case of emergency or war in any country people store food items with them to save themselves,but here too money is needed and the poor man cannot store much to save himself.

Under normal circumstances, no one thinks it is good to store food items.This will greatly affect the poor and may lead to food shortages,but in an emergency, people do everything they can to save themselves.Perishable items cannot be stored for a long time but dry food and medicine can be stored for a long time.

Sometimes food storage is necessary but not everyone has the capacity to do so. Because not everyone has the ability to servings.  Because his job is low-paying or his business is small or his family is large, his income is not enough to meet the daily expenses of his family. So I think everyone needs to have more of a savings tendency than food hoarding tendency. Then they will be able to deal with any situation Because money is the power of everything

Your list of needs, which includes a place to sleep, traps, and farming equipment, raises an important query: are we preparing to live off the land in the wild, or are we simply maintaining our nomadic digital lifestyle?

As crypto aficionados, shouldn't we welcome the ability of the internet and blockchain technology to reduce the need for intermediaries and other physical constraints? My primary concerns are the security of my hardware wallet and the availability of an always-on internet connection for daily Bitcoin price monitoring

Caches of material commodities hidden underground are a radical survival strategy. Do you not agree, though, that it would be preferable if we had virtual bunkers? I have a VPN, a cold storage wallet, and a reputable cryptocurrency exchange in case of an emergency. We are, after all, crypto nomads

Not everyone has the same capability because some people are earning money which is just enough to sustain a day of meal. It is hard for some people to store food in the long run and we have seen how many people have sreuggled during the pandemic. It is also easy to advice that they should plant what to eat in the future but most of them don't even have a comfortable space to sleep.
We aren't have the same priviledge so if famine comes, I don't think all of us will survive but as much as possible, we must focus on earning as a preparation for the possibilities in the future. We will still gain from it so we can deal with the unexpcted occurences that might happen.

If a man has shelter and clothing, what is needed next is food and we all can not do without food even for a day. We all want to eat up to our satisfaction everytime we feel hunger. Food crisis can be bigger that that of pandemic because we all need good on a daily basis and if we don't do something about creating a room for food production, we might suffer the consequences now that the war between Russia and Ukraine is still going and we don't know when it's gong to be over. If a man does not have money, at least he should have a farm or plantations that will bring him money.

The solution you mentioned is clearly very useful for everyone who is in a food crisis because apart from having to have money at all times to get daily food, everyone also needs to create land or small plantations that can produce food to be consumed even though and when there is excess yields could also be cashed in for themselves.

But sometimes the thing that becomes an obstacle in this option is when we need a little fertilizer for the land or plantations that we have so that until now there are still some people who do not make small plantations when the food crisis hits their environment. Even though this solution is very appropriate to implement and also each of us can choose plants that are more suitable for the soil we have and do not always depend on processed fertilizers from certain factories.