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So if grayscale is one of tge biggest whale they know when and how market moves.
Then lets collect money and pay them and other big whales to give us correct info
I think if we pay them each month 500,000$ that will do

Wht u think ? Merit for sure good innovative idea here

Do you really think that there will be people that will participate in this idea? I don't think that there will be someone who's even willing to give his dollar just for that sake. And to say paying them "each month", are you that rich to sustain that?
Well, the market is volatile and they can't even see what's coming soon so it's nonsense and nice try though but that idea won't really work even if you're the richest man alive.

Do you really think realizing $500,000 every month is possible? Well, there's something you need to realize about the whales which is that they're incessantly given money that is earmarked for one thing: buying stocks. This is simply in the sense that, "they have to buy." It is part and parcel of their job and they are competing against each other and the S&P 500 to outperform. This is among the reasons why the bull market has been so wonderfully strong in the past few years after successful recovery back from the 2008 meltdown.

Are you really sure any whale know when the price of a coin will bump? Except for shit coins that are pump and dump usually done in the telegram group and if you don't belong there you don't have the preview information but for decentralised coins like btc, I don't think whales know exactly, all is speculative because it is also a speculative market.

You think such money is just to be picked on the streets of
Geneva, Switzerland?


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Why give 500,000$ every month to the pope just because he wants to know when the market movement will happen I think this is very illogical we can also give predictions about our views, remember with 500,000$ money we can also move the market a little because it is an amount of money the big one.

I don't think this is a good idea, we can still get information about other market movements from other sources but if we just want to know while we have to give large sums of money that's not a good or innovative thing.

You clearly asking them to do a blatant market manipulation for just 500K per month? That amountis not even closed in case SEC file them a case for market manipulation and accepting payment for doing it. This is not innovative nor worthy of a single merit. If this will happened, Market will just print fake pump and soon will be erased once everyone take profit.

Lol....they all reafy manipulating all markets based on manipulation lol sec dont do nothing all same cmon dont even try to say its honest things i dont care if honest or not im here for $ if i can get $ i dont care their etics
We all gona eat we all starving and our duty is to put food in table so i dont blame anyone but let me eat with them

Easy as that?
The detected market movements are not fully experienced or felt by the whales, but generally they know when to surface and when to sink. The whale's own analogy when it comes to the surface is to expel moist air in the lungs, at least that's what I've heard in several explanations.

From this analogy, it is clear that when the big holders come out they begin to beat the heat, draw in fresh air to fill the lungs, eat the small fish and then drown again. Filling entire wallets with millions of profits from frantic little sellers. No need to pay, you just need to hold Bitcoin and once the whale appears it is marked bullish then take enough.

This is not going to happen, they wont waste time for a small time investor like us and if this is how the market works, imagine how they can make money if every will follow their move? Technically this is not a trading anymore. Grayscale surely have their own analyst , they have the money for this one and I’m sure they only trust the best analyst alive so their money will continue to grow. Better if you learn trading on your own, I’m sure you can have more profit as well.

It’s like you’re giving those big whales much appreciation with what they mostly done in the market. And it’s look like relying in them could lessen our job here, is that what you think OP. Big whales are always smarter than they think, but actually they can never make correct predictions with this unpredictable market. All of us here only follow what’s on our minds, maybe through educational guesses, and big whales are not an exception to that.

This kind of services doesn’t exist, and Grayscale will not allow any outsider to know their strategy. If you are now confident about your trading skills, then you can hire asset manager or broker where they can handle your assets and even trade that in the market though of course you have to pay them big since you are rendering their services. If you are a small time trader, I suggest to do this on your own, learn everything about how trading works, this can help you make trading decisions in the future and its really worth it.

Whales can manipulate the price but only for shitcoins but for Bitcoin, it can't manipulate the price a bit plus the combination of news but they can't totally control the price.
And it's not a good idea if you are feeding them $500k for a small information if when they are going to buy or sell.

Actually, it would be better if you learn how to trade because you can have more chance to make more profit in the future if you know how the market works and knows some trading strategy that can actually make a profit. If you are a newbie to trading then I suggest you read this source "Awesome Crypto Trading" (https://github.com/SpiralDevelopment/Awesome-Crypto-Trading).
Then start learning FA and TA then test your skills in any trading simulator available from that link before you enter live trading. I'm sure you'll stop looking for whales to pay $500k for a small tip.

Market manipulation is possible from the whales, but this gets extended to certain point. Beyond that, the market is a open place where it functions independent. Rather than spending such a big amount OP can learn and you itself can give suggestions on the market movements. Following Grayscale is good, but bitcoin not the same everytime. We need to understand it.

You have an exciting way of thinking because you are paying them to share their view, and they could easily not follow what they are doing. You know they have so much influence in the market that they don't need the $500k you offer.

Very difficult and impossible to happen. If it's true that they are the biggest whale, they are also having difficulties running their funds, yes they can have a huge effect on the market, especially since their size is huge but what do you want to pay them just to give info which is likely become a signal? It's a no for sure, they will not allow it even how much you pay. That's not how the market works.

Even if you could contact several whales they will never accept a deal like that, the reason? Because that is nowhere near enough for the information you want to get, besides if you could get 500k then that is more than enough seed capital in order to produce great profits as long as you know how to trade the markets in the traditional way, so stop looking for shortcuts and just learn how to trade as that is the only realistic way to make profits in this and any other market.

Keep in mind that these trading firms aren’t always correct. Many took leverage bets in the past and went bust. This is how 3AC went under. They were known for being a great trading firm and later was revealed that they were nothing but de gens and used too much leverage in the markets.

They went under and took down many other platforms which lent them funds. It was easy making money in a bull market however when the markets turned they started to lose money like everyone else.

Lol, how do you guys even come up with this kind of "genius" idea? Do you really think they are going to take your $500,000 each month to manipulate the market for you? $500,000 is peanuts for them. If they wanted they could manipulate (and probably are) the market discreetly and make more than $500,000 per month, with less risk of getting caught or falling into trouble.

Not going to happen!

Consider grayscale's goal is getting as much BTC from the wallets of everyone.  They are your competitor,  they eat retail investors alive. Why would they give you  signal?

Why not just watch the news yourself because every time the FED raises the interest rate, there is a bull market going on. It's what happened just yesterday and this spike in prices is the result. This is besides watching the chart, many traders I think have also expected the bulls coming although not all of them but some are already speculating what is coming due to what the charts are telling.

We pay them well everybody needs money

It can be said how to beat whales by trying to become fake whales but unfortunately whales will not like to cooperate with retail because they already have huge funds to do what they want including manipulating the market, for me, you and retail investors $500,000 is big but not for whales and what if they also manipulate your idea can you believe that they will actually open it up and maybe the whales will think that you can leak their idea so it won't work as intended.

Why would you pay 500 thousand dollars to find out about Grayscale plans, which are already publicly available. All purchases and sales of Grayscale Investments can be viewed on the page https://www.coinglass.com/Grayscale It looks like I've saved you $500000 right now)

Last time it was the same, after the rise there was an increase in the market, but after a while a fall followed, this may be a kind of bull trap. But you also need to understand that many expected a fall after that, so now we can see how bitcoin will grow and maybe even rise above 25k, and only after that we will see a continuation of the fall. So far, everything is going according to the old scenario, and I have not seen any positive news for growth at the moment, so this may be a temporary correction.

Currently the price of Bitcoin has increased but it doesn't seem like this will continue for long,
we need to look at it as a whole and analyze it so as not to make wrong decisions,
We'll see if there will be any positive news regarding the current growth

They won't waste even a single glimpse of time for small time investors because their focus is to make their own profit. They won't think of others who want to gain profit as well so we can't rely on them. It's better to enjoy trading on your own based on your knowledge and skills than to rely on others. Learn how to do your own analysis that will help you succeed in your trading journey.

Big investors do have their way and will not think of us as small investors. we really have to adapt to all conditions, don't go against the flow, it's better to just follow what they play. Learning to trade and honing technical analysis skills are mandatory things to do. If we understand how the market moves we will be safe and there will be some advantages to be gained, rather than just depending on others.

 Greyscale won't budge that $500k offer. They are one of the known whales that have bitcoins and surely they have their own traders and analyst, They won't tell someone about the strategy or buy prices they are planning to enter. They know that they aren't the only one trying to buy at lower prices, They won't let their enemy copy what they are currently doing. Also they won't manipulate the market for the sake of other offers. If they did some manipulation, For sure they will be earning more than $500k. In reality Greyscale or any kind of institution won't sell information about their next moves.

Seriously dude?
Are you kidding me?
Who the hell will spend that lot of money only to pay the whales? You know, the whales are richer more than it and they can make money easily more than quickly. They are not the people who concern with the paid services to this. However, the market is probably influenced by the whales, but the whales also cannot control the market 100%. It will also depend on how the market is going on. And there are so many whales, what whale will you pay?
Btw Instead of spending that much money to pay whales, I'd rather use it for trading and investing in Bitcoin. This is more promising. We can study market movements, although sometimes the market is very unpredictable, we can also get some anticipation with several plans.

To make profit from trading,you need to use your own strategy.Because you may learn from your trading.The money you had involved is your own money,So it’s better to get use of own strategy then using others.People who was new can use of the strategy of the old people,whom you know or from whom you had learned about the crypto currency.Then you will not lose huge money from your pocket.

To make profit then you should learn on how to trade.So what are the ways for you to attain such skill?

•Learn from your mistakes
•Actual experience
•Getting ideas or snipping some idea from others
•Proper research and basic information awareness
•Train yourself about emotion control

You are the ones who would really be molding up yourself to be a better trader and of course this wont really be an easy thing.

It is true that in order to make a profit from trading, we should rely on ourselves. So we have to be able to analyze the market well and determine
which coins are good for trading, then look for an effective strategy for us to use. Because everyone has different targets and different ways of
trading. After all, other people's trading strategies are not necessarily appropriate if we use them. Moreover, we do have to learn to be responsible
with the money we use for trading. As long as we want to improve our analytical skills, then we want to learn from every mistake we make.
We can potentially generate large profits from trading, the most important thing is that we really have to be patient to become a successful trader.
Because sometimes for us to find a good and effective strategy, have to go through a long process with some losses first.

When every detail is in hand what's the need of spending such a big money. According to OP he wants to know when the Grayscale team have planned for the next buy. This won't be disclosed by them even if they're paid with a big money as $500k. Op can start learning that the influence of these markets have shrunk compared to the past. So, manipulation will be effective to some level, beyond that it is in the hands of you and me.

^ You pointed it out and it is definitely right.
Trading is not for everyone, trading is only for those people who are willing to learn, ready to commit mistakes, and have enough funds to sustain themselves. We are always wanted profit and for many of us trading is a part of a job or a source of income, but it is not, it is precarious to deal with trading if you don't have enough skills. Push yourself to learn in trading because you are the one who is molding up to be a better one.

Sounds simple, isn't it? They won't even bother to listen as they are focused only on their own business. They don't have time to deal with other traders to give a paid signal or information. These whales are not that dumb to just sell their information where they put an effort into where they are standing right now.

Besides, why pay them if you can learn from yourself? Don't rely on predictions made by others as they have their own way of why they made that.

Learn how to trade. Don't complicate things too much. Your plan is not even realistic.

Truth is the best traders around the world do not even need the funds or strategies of anyone else, they rely on their expertise and use their own money to trade the markets, so there is not reason for them to be interested in something like this, so with this in mind then there is only one alternative for those which want to make profits in the markets and that is to learn how to trade by themselves, and if they cannot do it then they should just accept their limitations and become long term holders and stop dreaming about achieving something that is way beyond their capabilities.

Lol, just in your answer that others have already seen the motive and intention why you made this topic dude, do you think 500k$ is just a small amount? as someone who commented here said even rich people will not bite this approach, so merit is not a good solution just to have innovation in this concept of thinking. You may be thinking that what you are saying is very simple, please don't make the other members here in this forum ignorant.

I think one reason how many of these funds make money is that their time frame is much larger than most traders. Most traders who are trading Bitcoin usually trade the 5 minute chart and enter a trade for 1 hour and then they exit. Their profits are usually less than 1% or so.

With all these big funds they buy and hold for many months or years. So they don’t care if they bought too early and are underwater for a while, most retail people can’t do that.

So even if you paid the $500K, most likely the strategy wouldn’t work for you anyways.

It's hard to understand the idea, I don't think it's that easy to find out who the whales are that will rock the cryptocurrency market, and I think the money you offer is certainly less than the income of the whales if they act. we remember when Elon profited from the doge action. On the other hand, to negotiate with them I don't think it's easy, because they also have their own views, sometimes they can't even be influenced by anyone.

it's the funniest bullshit. try to imagine when all traders and investors know the trend signals that the market will form. will there be a trade? will anyone buy or sell their assets in the market?
there will be paralysis in the crypto market. whoever trades, they have supported this market to exist for a long time.

Yes its funny but the ammount of inside trading is done daily and sec does npthing its also funny

realy mate do you really think it's possible to happen? Lol  sounds funny tbh especially that amount where in much better to invest it than spend it because surely there's a good return after all.. And even we pay for whales to give us information how can you assure that it's safe and can give us good profits?  Because i know some whales that trading in the market and sometimes they made losses as well..  :D and there's a bunch of whales and most of them that really control the market are anonymous.. So it didn't make sense to spend such amount of money in order to get information and to become profitable.. Much better to learn on your own because it's free in the internet.  :D

I know the CEO of Grayscale over sees over $28 billion worth of Bitcoin, Ether and other assets but He might be a big whale but i bet you even more than the $500,000 You speculated isn't. enough to pump or manipulate price. Remember so far we have been avoiding anything that may seem centralised at any point and that suggestion seems like one

And where he did get this kind of MONEY ??
We know nothing about him
Off course if i have few bilions of usd i can start grayscale nothing genius abiut it

I think that there is not such a person who will agree for this payment and there is highest fluctuations in market so may be the information which we get may be changing and not working  in such a way. In crypto market everyone wants to take profit and no one will be in willing of paying his dollars for such activity. One should first learn carefully about the market and take any decision.

Actually in cryptocurrency business investment nobody will be likely to experience lost it will be investment because every investor is very inquisitive to ensure that each investment which profit irrespective of the speculation or the nature of the market at that particular moment or a given time the major priority of any investor is to make even though it is a $1 profit to ensure but the market is profitable and successful for each side of investment

event pay them will not guarantee we will earn profits, we have to know that market participants didnt contain only 1 player, alot investors also be whales in this market . market controlled by whales group not only single whale, so i am believe this is useless thing for us. only by learning and developt our skill it could help us to gain profits no need to depend on others.

If you are not sure about how Grayscale got their money to begin with, then you shouldn't be even talking about it. But I have to give it to you, you create some of the most low effort and horrible topics in all of bitcointalk and yet you are still getting attention that you want, mainly people who would like to have a serious discussion for some reason, but you are not after serious discussion at all.

It means that all you care about right now would be making sure that you do not end up with a person who ousts you and I won't be the one. I personally believe that the best thing you could do right now would be realizing grayscale doesn't work with 500k per person type of funds.

What about 1000 000$ a month ?
If someone complained here 500k too small
Its wall street here c mon lets talk about the number s
Everybody have the price ...so what is the price ?
Should i add more zeros ?

First, dont try yourself on begging for merits
Second, this isnt a good innovative idea but rather a dumb one
Third, Who the hell would really be considering specially the whales on letting toe market knows on what they are planning?
Fourth, they do make use of their power and finances to take advantage on this market on where lots of retail traders/investors would be wrecked up
whenever they do plan on manipulating the market and there's no way that someone could easily get these information and take immediate early
step towards it.

We are talking about information which is worth a fortune, so even one million a month is nothing, now it is true that when it comes to the markets everything has a price, however for another whale the price is something as low as a dinner invitation or a round of golf, that is because they are influential as well and they can reciprocate if needed, but even if someone could afford to pay 12 million a year it would not be enough for a whale, but with such a big capital then I need to wonder why would anyone then care about the whales? Because even if they could only earn 10% per year that would be more than enough to earn 1.2 millions by trading.

and I also don't think that information can be bought at a price. Whales have their way when they want to give signals for the next market movement. even I guess it will be given indirectly.
I still doubt anyone would sell such accurate information. I'm sure it's not a matter of numbers to consider.

Any proof that they know when and how the market moves? Does buying a huge amount of Bitcoin a whale? I mean it depends on how you define "huge" because I myself consider 1 BTC as huge already but I don't know about you.

Your suggestion is kinda funny if you will ask me :D. I literally laughed for 5 mins before posting this one :P.
You will collect? Are you expect somebody to pay you? Where you will get that kind of amount when we are laughing at your suggestion? Maybe you aren't serious with this one and you are just trolling aren't you?

That's bad  :-\

Instead of imagining paying $500,000 in grayscale for some information, spend your time learning the science of trading. A good idea to make a profit is to trade, no matter who is doing the manipulation, the most important thing is that you are prepared with the knowledge you have.
Instead of just bragging and daydreaming like you are doing right now. Wake up from your dream and do what you have to do, this is the real world.

Making profits in the space is very easy and have many categories you can make profits from like staking of coins, trading either for spot or future and getting involved in Pool which generate much profits. Perhaps there's still more to add but these are the necessities one need to get at his or her finger tips before embarking on Profits trip in the space. For instance, I only go for future and spot trading using Binance which have keep me going in the space with the 80% premium signal and sometimes go for crypto gems which comes once or twice weekly.

I didn't understand how you would pay $500,000 for the information? Would you pay all that money for information on the method or timing of market movement? If this information yields all these profits, then why would they give it to you? I didn't really get the idea.

I think the technique of getting profit is the first, knowledge, patience, and also stay positive in mind, and also don't forget we have to be grateful and pray to God.
  
In my opinion, if we know the knowledge, of course everything will produce happiness, just like we invest if we know the knowledge will certainly produce results. and according to my experience in trading we have to be good at buying, and have to dig up information about the crypto we will buy and if the market is bear it is the right time to buy, but we have to know the lowest price point of the crypto price we buy, and the crypto we buy must be quality crypto. that way we will profit

I think paying people to give us information is a wrong opinion, I think if we want to earn, we have to work hard ourselves, don't depend on other people, because if we depend on other people we won't be able to do anything in the future day. so in my opinion if we want to produce hard study then we will find what we want, and surely from the results of our own hard work it will produce something good.

and in the first place, even if we say they are one of the big holders of btc, it doesn't mean that they have the major influence in the market movement. it is not an innovative idea by the OP by any means. in this market, you don't need to pay someone to assure your profits. that's not gonna happen. why not study the market, watch out for valuable coins, don't get involve in hype up coins, learn some technical analyses?

Suffice to agree with what you said, because if you look at people who have been in the trading world and see from some of the experiences I've had, trusting others only makes hope false there considering that in this kind of thing no one can really be relied on except yourself. alone.
I prefer the analysis and research that I do rather than claiming someone can be good at trading because indeed when they say things like that and follow their path when they lose, it is clear that there will be an assumption that we feel like we have been cheated even though we are the ones who don't really believe in ourselves and more dependent on others.

There's no difference from those groups that are doing pump and dump of shitcoins.

And why are you targeting the rich? They're already rich enough and that's why they're getting richer. That amount you've said is already a lot and no fool will do that.

whales like us, sometimes losing money, going bankrupt, watching 3ac the largest whale investment fund in the market also die
there are no guarantees in this market

with that monthly amount, i think we are more than enough to trade on our own, we can learn and train at the same time and I believe we will quickly become professional investors
there is no better way to do business or invest than to rely on yourself, learn on your own, gain knowledge and gain experience

If we trade too much relying on other people's opinions, then we must be prepared to experience disappointment and losses. Because after all
it's not a good idea to make a profit by relying on the signals given by other people. That's why until now I have never trusted a paid or free
trading group to be able to make a profit. It is clear that most trading groups only benefit the group owner, then the best way to make a profit
from trading is to rely on our own ability to analyze the market. So don't be lazy to learn how to do the right research and analysis,
because the only thing we can trust is the results of our own research and analysis.

Don't you realize that 8 out of 10 beginners may prefer to invest because of the hype? They want to get rich quick, but don't have a true understanding of how the market works. They would think of such ridiculous things because they thought it could help them earn big profits.

Nothing is truly profitable when they have no intention of learning about how they can make their own profit in the market. Expecting someone else's analysis is never really recommended, unless they suggest bitcoin instead of random altcoin.

A great deal of the newbies don't understand that the only people in which we can rely on is ourselves, it may seem attractive to follow the advice of someone else because that will save us all the time and the effort that we will need to spend trying to learn how to trade the markets, but unfortunately something like this is not possible, and this means that all of those people that try to follow that formula are going to be incredibly disappointed by the results that they get.

Seeing what others are doing may be possible but obviously there must be further consideration there and it must be accompanied by the research we do.
Keep in mind that trading requires skill and careful observation so that we don't get stuck there.
Btw I agree with what you said about groups relying on signals with the lure of profits will only make us look like fools for not believing in ourselves.

Sorry mate but i think your idea is quite absurd, and certainly not going to work. Just imagine such a huge amount will be gone just to reach out for that biggest whale, and we're not even sure if his own idea may work too. Probably, if we do that, its like we're gambling our hard earned money and i won't encourage everyone to risk for that. If we want to make profits, then let's study the market well so we can create good market analysis afterwards.

500,000$ Is a lot of money and also we are not sure if this whales really know when is the next pump. And i am really shookt 500,000$ monthly is really a big money and also you are not even sure if you can make that kind of money every month.

For me in my perspective this is not a good idea, i will be learning instead paying 500,000$ a month to those whales. Learning is good, and knowledge is power in the world of trading.

To get a good idea of both investment and trading, remember to read and understand the terms and conditions of the platform first of all for the details of whichever platform you trade. Also whatever you do, do it at your own risk also you can follow or emulate those who are the best traders if you want but own skills are most effective.

Investments or trades made are your own responsibility and risk. So before you really want to make a profit, you must know what to prepare. expertise in trading is about how to do technical and fundamental analysis, so as not to depend on others. Your own skills are paramount, so keep practicing your own abilities so you can make a profit from your own hands.

The people that come to this market only think of the benefits and freedoms they can enjoy by joining this market, but they forget that with this newfound freedom they also need to carry huge responsibilities as well, and this means that if they want to invest in this market they are free to do it but they also need to accept the fact they are 100% responsible for the results they get and any attempt to try to give up that responsibility will likely end up in disaster.

Yes it’s best to take the responsibility on yourself while investing or trading with own money.
I mean if you get profits from the trade, then you will praise the person or the company through which you bought the coins, but if by chance you lose it, then the whole life you will blame him or them.
Also as always said earlier, no one shares the secret on how to make money. If they were actually making that much amount of money through that, then they would have got rich by it. No need of sharing the strategy or the tips.

Can I ask you mate? why did you think of such a method? You know because we are in the cryptocurrency business industry, where we have trading here that is a way to make money in altcoins or crypto not in the way you think. Although we all know here that the main way to earn in crypto is to do trading, and the other is to offer their skills to pay them with cryptocurrency for the service they can provide something like that anyway.

That won’t work for us since we are giving them the best advantage, letting them take away our own hard-earned money without guarantee that we will profit in return. Kinda like absurd like you are making them richer and leaving us poorer and poorer. So if we want to make profits, then making shortcuts will never do that. Always learn the market the hard way and get more experiences that will build your skills and strategies, that way you will be productive later on.

Do you think they need this if they can earn much more money? hahaha so funny.
No need to do a useless things here for grayscale
Let them do what they like to do. And let them do what we can do.
This is not only about their influence on the crypto market. But, this is too complicated.
What we need to do is by focusing on whatever we're doing. If we are trading, we can utilize every technical analysis and also fundamental analysis to help to trade in order to earn profits. If we are a holder, we can keep holding the coins until the price that we target is done.
Just do what we will do.
No need to think about paying the grayscale money to make this market stable, not making other big news, and others. They don't need it. they are big and they only focus on them.

Did he really think that the whales would spare our money just because we planned to give it to them? And besides of that, if someone knew when would be the market is going to pump then who will gonna take the losses? I don't know if OP is thinking or not but the idea just came out of nowhere. Lol

Trading consist of winning and losing so that there will be gainers and losers. A plan like that wouldn't work IMO unless of they would agree but it's also unfair to the other traders. So, it's basically a way to destroy trading industry because of the way they want to earn.

It is a good idea if you make trade not only with the bitcoin market there's alot of opportunity to grab within, like make a profit with the altcoins and make dive into a different projects you can earn a token but if you want to pursue trading make a chance with the swings and small trades even though not all the time the market is volatile still theres a chance to grab for the sideways but of course trading is also a waiting game wait for your entry.

What just we did is trying to manipulate these whales and take actions in favor of us which is not how the market works. You are trying to make trading like politics where we can bribe other people just to have their faith in us. NO, whales are smarter than you and besides, they don't have the capability to control the market.

I'd see no fairness in this and only a greedy person can just think about this strategy. I hope this never happens so everyone will enjoy the volatility of the market.

This is actually my first time hearing the name "Grayscale" and I quickly just made my research online and got to know that Grayscale is the largest digital currency asset manager with over 579k active followers on Twitter which helps investors build their digital asset portfolios. So this suggestion is a nice idea to pay them to give us correct information and signal on market whales, but one problem with big companies like this is that when they get trusted with bigger funds, they tend to fold up and run away with it. So this suggestion is a big risk (that's my opinion).. I don't know of others

I'm more interested on how to make that $500,000 and keeping that to myself that I'm gonna use in trading just myself. Why bother on whales if you could make your own profits. The problem here is that most of the newbie traders wants an instant millionaire life overnight, there's no such thing. Trading is about commitment, dedication, and perseverance, if you don't have those, for sure you'll just burn your money in trading.

how to make profit when the market is bearish will be very difficult than when it is bullish,
we are required to understand the analysis, without analysis we will be difficult to understand the movement of a coin,
especially in a bearish month altcoin will move very volatile, it can even go down to -99%

Exactly, a great deal of newbies come to the market with the idea that they are going to become millionaires in a matter of days and it is obvious that something like that is impossible, even someone that had a significant amount of money will need at least a few years before they were able to obtain those results, so it is silly that newbies think that they can get those results when they do not have the experience, knowledge or capital to aspire to those results.

We are indeed better to focus on our own trading activities than we involve the whales. Moreover, whales are more experienced than us and
they can manipulate us. We have to remember in the crypto world scammers are everywhere, so it's best if we want to make a profit from
trading crypto we rely on our respective abilities. Because after all in the crypto world, only ourselves can be trusted. Therefore, do not be lazy
to continue to learn to improve our analytical skills, so that we can analyze the market well. Unfortunately most newbies like you said they want
to make an instant profit, that's why newbies usually make decisions based on other people's opinions, without doing their own research and analysis.
Too lazy for newbies to learn how to trade crypto well, they will always look for shortcuts to make a profit. Therefore, there are many newbies
who lose their money in vain.

Freelancing is the good opportunity to earn without losing anything but also having the risk for not getting paid. While business and trading are more valuable earning places but big traders also get loose, so luck in trading also matter with strategies and physical learning.

Freelancing loses time and effort, it's also very valuable. working without pay would be very sad. some freelancing also use capital to support the work to be done, so there will be some losses if the work done does not produce results. Trading does require to have capital, but not only money capital, trading knowledge capital and good psychological capital. Don't trade if you don't understand anything, you will lose a lot if you force it. Trading does not rely on luck, trading relies on good analytical skills.

This is very funny per say and I don't think this will work at all mate. If you think you want to pay the whales $500,000 per so how do you think they are going to make there money? That money is too small for the whales and I am still contemplating that who will join you to contribute the money that will make up the $500K you want to pay the whales. There is no possiblity what you have said because there are some whales who are making not less than $5M per trade which is not even up to what you are going to offer them.

No, you are not going to make that alone but like he said you will be needing the help of other people. They will gave their own contribution until you made that amount and then that will be used as a payment to the whales but the only problem is how can people trust you that you won't scam them? Sorry but the op seems to be not trusted because most of his threads are not serious. Plus I don't think his idea will work. Never heard before that a whale can negotiate on a normal person. They can maybe if you are in the same level as them.

The reason why he needs the help of the whale is because the market is unpredictable and he thinks whales can predict it.