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Split from this thread: We are all Hodlonaut (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410629.0)

For the background to the case, read the above thread and also this website: https://www.defendingbtc.com/
If you would like to donate to the OpenSats Legal Defense Fund, for Hodlonaut and future lawsuits against CSW, then do so here: https://opensats.org/projects/opensats_legal_defense

#WeAreAllHodlonaut

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I split this thread from the other one so I could self moderate it going forward. Spam and nonsense from individual claiming to be Satoshi themselves will be deleted with impunity (unless they provide an appropriate signature, of course :P).

Twitter users who are worth following during the trial:

https://nitter.it/bitnorbert
https://nitter.it/SpecificMills
https://nitter.it/kristiandoble/
https://nitter.it/wizsecurity

There are also a number of unedited videos from inside the courtroom courtesy of Bitcoin Magazine available here: https://www.youtube.com/c/BitcoinMagazine/videos

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Edit:

A resounding victory for Hodlonaut and a complete loss for CSW. Read from this post onward for discussion of the verdict: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5413844.msg61153381#msg61153381

I really don't understand how uneducated a court could be. If they do not understand the technology then they need a team who understand it. People paying tax to waste money on those uneducated court people, why?

It just need a bitcoin address to sign the proof of authentication but no one seems to be going to that path. What does these witlessness (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6nXCKae_9k) has to do here. When a technically detailed case handled by a group of politics, history educated people then nothing good can be expected from it.

All waste of time.

This is exactly the reason why CSW chooses to fight these battles in court rather than via independently verifiable means. He knows he cannot provide any evidence he is Satoshi (because he isn't) via any of the methods the community are interested in, such as moving coins or signing a message,* and so he chooses instead to use a system which can be fooled with technobabble and by those with the most money to pay.

I agree, but now that such cases exist, it is in all our interests to support Hodlonaut (or anyone else fighting CSW) and to start to put an end to CSW's nonsense and threats to others in the community.

I'll link again to Greg Maxwell's Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ws8wfd/starting_september_12th_in_oslo_norway_hodlonaut/ikxqxoo/

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*Of course accepting that a valid signature is necessary but not sufficient in the quest to prove someone is Satoshi.

Situations like these are all too common. I can remember when the social media giants (facebook, instagram, whatsapp...) were on some sort of trial years back for misuse of public data information. Many of the questions asked were misinformed and not technical in line with the activities of those companies.
They court here could appoint an expert (court appointed expert), to assist in demystifying technical terms. Not aware why it was not opted for.

- Jay -

firstly about CSW choice to fght..
there is no choice for him, because he has no option. its either play the court or become a meaningless no-body.
(((CSW (reality) had no coin pre2013, only had 48btc in 2013 then had debt/finance problems since which were then funded by silly people he conned there after)))

after reading old notes and links to other people investigations over the years, CSW first "touch" of bitcoin was in april 2013 ( as proven by the mtgox accounts leak after the crash/liquidation, Aus gov records, US gov records) he has no 2009-2012 stash/collateral/keys/coins. linkage or mention of bitcoin prior to this. his scams previous to 2013 were trying to scam R&D grants from government and private business to create consultancy businesses and software businesses about IT security

.. as for the courts
they are not there to investigate the truth outside the dispute. in civil court they are just the mediator of a dispute and of the weigh of averages which side is more credible based on whats presented in their statements and deserves a win. its upto the 2 sides involved to do the investigating and display and explain the technical details of the dispute. not for the judge to be fully versed in all aspects of every detail of a subject matter outside the court/pre-court
(that said the judge is not stupid and has personally done some research over the last 5 days just to have a personal better understanding. as seen by becoming more confident in asking about crypto stuff)

but its not her job to demand evidence. if the opposition to CSW is not contesting what CSW is saying(hodlonauts team need to demand CSW show something.  then and only then can the judge make it a formal order, if it relates to settling the dispute.)

EG the W&k brand ownerships.
though real world knows there is no collateral.. because both sides (ira&csw) agreed/did not dispute collateral amount. the court did not need to request proof of collateral, it was just dispute resolution about % ownership rights to the brand W&K

if you imagine civil court as dispute resolution and not real world out of court truth seeking. you see the limitations of court can only deal with what has been mentioned/claimed/accused inside the room about statements said by the parties and their witnesses even if both are right, both are wrong or one has it wrong. its just about which side deserves to have the dispute won in their favour

this is what CSW is hoping for. bring in enough witnesses to seem credible
..
its upto hodlonaut's team to pick at CSW's lies, to explain the lies and to prove they are lies. not for the court to investigate things outside the court or question everything.

i would have loved to have seen more objections and entering of more facts into evidence to counter CSW's statements from hodlonauts team

but this dispute is about did hodlonaut knowingly know CSW was some mystery man pseudonym and then attack and discredit that reputation. or did hodlonaut have an opinion based on what he seen, know from the community of a pre-existing doubt about CSW story. which is then fair play for hodlonaut to say how he feels.

(like how flat earthers can say they think earth is flat)

What's more disappointing is that in this world, a poor person is unable to get the legal assistance they need. Fund raising works when it's for the actual common good, but that's just an exception. The reason why Craig has reached where he's currently at, is clearly his big pocket. The court must punish him, for if they don't, and we, the Bitcoin community, fail at proving this bastard a liar, imagine how unfairly your future (possible) case might be faced.

Does Hodlonaut have anything to fear in case he loses the trial?

knowing CSW tactics if CSW wins.
hodlonaut has to pay amounts of the UK case claim plus whatever else is added in the norweigen claim. and refrain from future social drama attacks on CSW reputation.

CSW can then make new disputes later about (false) non payments or use future social drama attacks(by others) as a trigger to re-sue hodlonaut by saying that X new attacker is hodlonaut using alt-accounts (CSW has hinted to this option already in the case) where hodlonaut then has to fight proving he is not alt-acount, (CSW can fake/photoshop, conversations between people (that never happened) to trigger more frivolous suits)

as for punishing CSW
the civil court (dispute resolution) punishment is just who wins..
there is no perjury crime if caught lying. its just the win goes to the side that didnt lie.

Craig is bringing alot of sentiments into the overview and has succeeded in trying to convince the gullible jurists.Craig won't even mind spending alot just to make the ball-game political, that's quite unruly.

If he's presenting an issue of this sort in court --as Royce said-- why should they place judgment without valid proofs (exhibit kind of)? I'm just seeing it to becoming a political affair.

I dunno how active this hodlonaut stuff is, cus I'm seeing it as some kinda protest or maybe I'm wrong?
Is there any hodlonaut ambassador out there who could speak onbehalf of the team in court? If not, then a mere protest on media won't do much harm. Craig is an imposter, everyone knows the truth.

Look, sometimes when solving a problem, you have to look at it critically from it basement.
If I may ask: what was the essence of SATOSHI making himself, themselves,itself pseudonymous when he,they knew quite well that a time will come when someone will unanimous acclaim bitcoin or even claim to be SATOSHI's accomplise, HUH??!
 This is really gonna get ugly. I don't even know what else to say :'(
Sandra_

Sort of, if he lies in court or brings false evidence into the proceeding even in a civil case there can be repercussions.

The larger risk is that if he looses people can go after him with lawsuits. He has attacked some people with money in the BTC world, if they want to start going after him, it gives them the ability to put out there that he has already lost this case and look what damage he did to me.....

Either way the cultists that believe him will keep believing him, those that don't will likely never start at this point.

-Dave

Just for reference, here are all the Bitnorbert transcripts:

[Day 1]:
First post: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1569214879885656067
Thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1569214879885656067
[Day 2]:
First post: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1569558996142415872
Thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1569558996142415872
[Day 3]:
First post: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1569921386738601985
Thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1569921386738601985
[Day 4]:
First post: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1570283773383659520
Thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1570283773383659520
[Day 5]:
First post: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1570646160725123075
Thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1570646160725123075
[Day 6]:
First post: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1571733321461243904
Thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1571733321461243904
[Day 7]:
First post: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1572458096240521216
Thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1572458096240521216

[Reflections on day 1]: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1569423884184690690
[Reflections on day 2]: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1569777546274668549
[Reflections on day 3]: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1570075562772762624
[Reflections on day 4]: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1570491535552282625
[Reflections on day 5]: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1570861676442054663
[Reflections on day 6]: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1571946089380712448
[Reflections on day 7]: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1572654086457270272

Unfortunately, very few people can understand the technical background of everything that Faketoshi claims to be true, so it is possible that everything he presents at such trials for the court has a justified doubt that these are true claims. This is why he goes to such legal battles with as many as 9 lawyers, each of whom probably understands only one part of the lie, which they then try to prove as the truth as a whole.

We know that Faketoshi is not a lone fanatic who insists on being Satoshi, but that he has moral and generous financial support for various Judas who at some point decided that they wanted to privatize Bitcoin and that the best way to do it was to set up a central figure through a person for who will try to prove that he is Satoshi.

This fact has been ignored for years, and how many times have I read on the forum that we should not pay attention to it, and now the only question is who will appear in court next? Faketoshi will only go from country to country and from court to court, because realistically he has nothing else to do in life.

It would likely be unwise for them to start discussing court proceedings while the trial is ongoing.

It's not just a protest, but a fund raising campaign. So far the community has raised over 70 BTC and a further $75k in support of paying Hodlonaut's legal fees: https://opensats.org/projects/opensats_legal_defense

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Back on topic now: Does anyone know what format the trial is taking next week? I understand CSW's team will be calling more paid shills witnesses who will also not provide any verifiable evidence also say CSW is totally amazing, but I don't know what day that will be. What else is planned? When is the trial due to finish?

From what I picked up, 2 more days on Monday and Tuesday. Or Tuesday and Wednesday. Surprisingly tricky to find that in writing; I just heard it on Bitcoinmagazine's interview with Mills.

I can only confirm that I also read that trial will last 7 days, which in my opinion is more than enough to establish the essential facts and for the court to make its decision based on that.

It's difficult because the guy is clearly desperate for attention and it feels wrong to give him more.  But people should be aware of the network of reprehensible scum who support the figurehead of this scam.  We don't want to glorify them, but they should be named and shamed.  

Calvin Ayre and other employees of 'coingeek',
Hakan Yuksel along with any and all employees of 'nchain',
Stefan Matthews, Jodok Wicki and the lesser peons at the (so-called) 'bitcoin association',

All of these people and organisations should all be viewed as culpable accessories.

Unfortunately Bitcoin Magazine don't seem to be releasing the unedited footage from Friday, so we can only go on the tweets provided, but I've been rereading them and they are absolutely laughable.

For example:
https://nitter.it/wizsecurity/status/1570773425102397443#m
https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1570765810863575040#m
CSW submitted what he is claiming is pre-release bitcoin source code, but this pre-release bitcoin source code includes a bug fix which was made in version 0.1.0 following a report made by Hal Finney. So to believe CSW you have to believe he introduced the bug, then fixed it, then re-introduced it, then waited on Hal to make his report, and then fixed it again. Lol.

https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1570769461954879490#m
https://nitter.it/wizsecurity/status/1570773434904485893#m
CSW's submitted pre-release .exe file has an identical checksum to the first public release version. The problem here of course is that while the checksum is valid for the first public version, it is invalid for CSW's pre-release version. This shows that his pre-release version was created simply by taking the first public version and changing a few minor things, i.e. a barn door forgery.

https://nitter.it/wizsecurity/status/1570773441061748741#m
Absolute lol. He tried to make it look older simply by changing the version number in the readme file.

https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1570766382048096260#m
https://nitter.it/wizsecurity/status/1570942661959491584#m
And he included a reference to compressed public keys, which weren't used for another 4 years.

So he has obviously submitted forgeries, but what I find hilarious is just how bad these forgeries are. Referencing things which didn't exist at the time, doing something as simple as just changing the version number, apparently completely oblivious to the existence of checksums. This is the technical equivalent of using white-out on a date and writing an older date on top and thinking no one will notice. You are telling me the best forgery the inventor of bitcoin can muster up is changing the version number in a .txt file? Lmao.

Along with Bitcoin Magazine, someone else is putting youtube videos up to cover the trial.  Unfortunately, it's coingeek.  I won't click on them, but no doubt they're putting their "unique" slant on things.  Some of the videos are even titled "Satoshi Trial", so already it's a pack of lies before anyone has even seen it.

One thing that can be clicked on is the three little vertical dots, which brings up a menu allowing you to report videos for being misleading.  It would be a shame if everyone here on the forum were to click it.   ;)

You know what to do.

All the CoinGeek videos are simply vlogs from well known a CoinGeek contributor and BSV shill. They contain zero footage from inside the court room. Perhaps this is deliberate given how terrible CSW comes across in all the clips we we have been getting from Bitcoin Magazine.

Looks like so far today there has simply been testimony and questioning of other cybersecurity firms regarding the KPMG reports. Despite these firms being called by CSW's team to cast doubt on the KPMG analysis, it seems both were unable to do so and largely agreed with the KPMG findings, only able to offer small criticisms around the edges and not against any of the main findings - i.e. that most of the documents CSW submitted were fraudulent. Seems like quite the fail on the part of CSW and his team today.

Apparently all that is left is closing statements. Would be great to get full videos of these, if anyone from Bitcoin Magazine is reading!

Craig Wright the big PhD of theology which could as well be a PhD of Voodoo is changing dates on files submitted by someone else to make it look like he did it. What a lowlife.

I bet that idiot wanted a PhD to look smarter but all real sciences were too difficult for him so he went for the one where you can bullshit the most and nobody will be able to say if it's real or not.

Then he went to the Internet and tried to push his bullshit there but it's not that easy when you have archives, screenshots and databases.

theology
the study of how to create a cult of believers..
.. (sarcasm -> ) i wonder why he would see a need to study this?

digital forensics
the study of how digital files can be edited, manipulated..
.. (sarcasm -> ) i wonder why he would see a need to study this?

Looks like the trial is finished for today, and will be back on Wednesday. I'm not sure what is happening tomorrow.

By the looks of the tweets, Hodlonaut's team have started with a very good closing statement. I believe there will be more from them on Wednesday. For example:

Also worth pointing out that CSW claimed he shared early drafts of the whitepaper with a number of people last week, including Dustin Trammell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zkweFcpQMs&t=3985s
Dustin Trammell has today made a post calling that out as yet another complete lie from CSW: https://blog.dustintrammell.com/faketoshi-craig-wright-lies-exposed/

I'm not good at deciphering lawyer-speak. Does this mean Hodlonaut is winning or not?

nothing.. CSW requested day off to organise some lawyers as some not available tomorrow

Yes. It means that if the judge has any sort of understanding about the case, Hodlnaut will be the winner. I think it’s been demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt that CSW has falsified documents in an attempt to prove he was satoshi and is now telling the court to take people’s word for it. If this works for CSW, I will also be calling myself satoshi and forking the chain to unlock his coins for myself. Anyone who is willing to state that I am satoshi can have a cut.

Looks like bitnorbert agrees with my statement above about CSW's team failing by calling experts who agree with Hodlonaut:

Obviously I'm only reading things through the filter of Twitter here, but it does seem like this should go in favor of Hodlonaut.

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In other news, BSV shills have succeeded in getting Greg Maxwell banned from Reddit for posting some of CSW's lies and forgeries from the trial: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/xi8f1q/is_nullc_banned_from_reddit/

Reddit is such a trash platform.

And then someone complains that this forum is not good enough when it comes to freedom of expression, which unlike the mentioned platform is some kind of futuristic democracy. In my opinion, it is even too tolerated when it comes to various BSV shills or those who claim to be Satoshi without any evidence.

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I want to believe that the Norwegian court will look at all the evidence and rule in favor of Hodlonaut, and the only thing that worries me is how well the court will be able to understand the evidence presented, because it is not something they have encountered before.

Tell him I'm always available for reposting content he wants to share there.

It's good that Reddit doesn't require phone numbers. I can generate an unlimited of Proton and Tutanota addresses (provided I delete some first).

if a ceramic pot was smashed a years ago, then stepped on hundreds of times over years until its dust.. you cant then blame person number 20,000 who has annoyed you for repeating the pot is damaged, for said damage

hodlenaut comments were not just personal lies hodlonaut made up to harm someone. his thoughts are based on information that the community already knew and he simply ensured other people new it too, to save newbie people falling for scams.... hodlonaut did not create anything damaging. thus didnt cause any damage that didnt already exist

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though CSW doesnt care win or lose.. its not the game he is ultimately playing..
for hodlonaut the case is going hodlonaut way

though CSW says he wants to use future courts as proof of identity..
to  prove he has a credible reputation worth protecting.. ..
not proving it means he has no credible reputation NOW ... thus nothing to protect or get damaged

 defamation/insults/call outs that already occured are not about maybe one day someone will prove something.. its about what information is and was available now and in the past to support someone opinion now and in the past...
and how real/factual/credible that info is to prove/disprove identity and create a reputation(good or bad) that needs protecting(of/from) when the insults occured.
yet there is enough proof of the bad non existant rep. that the stuff pretending to be of good rep has been debunked, proved as lies and shown as forgeries and counterfeit. thus the fails of CSW past is a good enough reason to call him out on his failures.

his reputation has been pre-damaged for decades, he has been sued by former employers, colleges have discredited his involvement, old investors in his "it security" scams have discredited him, Australian tax office have called him out on his crap..

thus general opinion of the community has been that CSW was already a sham/fake/con artist. far longer than hodleonauts comments.

Legal noob question - why did this case and previous CWS cases went to court, couldn't the judge recognize them as legal trolling and dismiss them. And if the judge didn't understand the technical nuances, couldn't they ask someone who did. To me it looks like a symptom of a broken legal system, and it's clearly against the spirit of the law when a person with a strong reputation of a scammer is able to bring people who expose them to court and make them spend money on defense.

Wright’s Satoshi Proofs ‘Not Credible’ and a ‘Farce,’ Hodlonaut Lawyers Say
https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/09/19/craig-wrights-satoshi-proofs-not-credible-and-a-farce-hodlonaut-lawyers-say/ (https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2022/09/19/craig-wrights-satoshi-proofs-not-credible-and-a-farce-hodlonaut-lawyers-say/)

Claims by Australian computer scientist Craig Wright to be the founder of Bitcoin were dismissed as “not credible” and a “farce” by lawyers for Twitter personality Hodlonaut, otherwise known as Magnus Granath, in closing arguments offered in Oslo’s District Court Monday.
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DPA’s findings were “consistent … with what KPMG found in their report,” van Schijndel told District Court Judge Helen Engebrigtsen. “This would include the findings in regard to the fonts.”
That was enough for Ørjan Salvesen Haukaas, Granath’s lawyer, to conclude a pattern of misrepresentation by Wright.
“This document has been manipulated. There can be no doubt about that,” said Haukaas. “This isn’t something that happens if you move it from Windows to Linux … it’s something that happens when you use a text editor and you change the text.”
“The fact that these documents were forged wasn’t even contested by Wright in his statement” to the court, Haukaas said.

 ::) ...  :D

frivolous/SLAPP lawsuits are a nuisance and many jurisdictions have made processes to quash them before they even get a hearing..
(when making a claim you have to atleast show some basic evidence that something actually happened/is in dispute)
but CSW moved to a jurisdiction where SLAPP lawsuits are still heard if they meet a minimal standard.

most civil cases are not things with any big punishments(no prison for loser). they are just cases where there is a dispute between 2 parties and they want a unbiased mediator to judge on which side should fairly win.. where basically if you have the money to pay the mediator(court fees) you get your chance in court

there are silly other things like. if the opposition simply does not turn up, or doesnt want to defend themselves. the court deems that there is no defence and so the party that did turn up wins by default

yes its not the best system and yes there should be many more processes in place where it stops people making random fictitious claims..

but.. if there is evidence shown upfront where someone has insulted someone else and the claimer says they were hurt.. then it passes the most basic bar of being atleast worthy of hearing

where as if CSW said some random person defamed him but couldnt even show a real tweet of that insult. then it wont be heard.
this is why CSW is not making a court claim about satoshi. but doing the defamation claims, and then during the defamation claim, then adding in his pinches of salt to try claiming to be satoshi on record with silly non-proofs. hoping a defamation win becomes proof of satoshi win

So Hodlonaut's team have now finished their closing statement, and CSW's team is giving theirs. Some absolute howlers coming out of CSW's team today:

You don't say!? ::)

Expects the court to believe there is no link at all between CSW And Calvin Ayre in relation to doxing individuals? Lol. I'll just leave this here: https://nitter.it/CalvinAyre/status/1115913884823707649

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Today is the last day. I'm not sure if we will get a judgement today, or if the judge will take some time to deliberate first. Anyone know?

no judgement today, expect it in early october

other funny's to note about CSW closing statement

1. CSW happily throws his buddy Calvin ayres under the bus about doxxing hodlonaut

2. tries to suggest freedom of speech only applies if there is a session of invited debate.. where people are not free to speak unless party involved in the discussion has been invited to respond(facepalm)

if thats true then i cant say that i hate cherry flavoured pepsi as it tastes like disgusting acidy aniseed, dipped in the sweat of a homelessman
.. unless i invite a homeless man and the legal team of pepsico to this forum.. right?
nope.. i can say it and pepsico do not legally need to have a right to respond or be invited into the discussion

Trial is finished. Apparently the judge has set a date of November 8th for a decision (!), so we are going to be waiting ~7 weeks to find out the outcome of the case.

Costs are being submitted within 2 weeks, so there is still time to donate to Hodlonaut's legal fees or to help fund future cases against CSW: https://opensats.org/projects/opensats_legal_defense

I realised when reading through bitnorbert's tweets that BDO as a witness for CSW was causing
more harm than good. The only thing they could question about KPMG's report was the processes
used in some of the results. They largely agreed with most of what KPMG found.

Those two very reputable companies while being called on opposite sides and agreeing on their
findings should paint a very clear picture for the Judge in ruling in favour of Hodlonaut.

I have mixed feelings about the 7 week delivery of the verdict, is it not obvious to the judge
of the above? then again its best to retrace everything which has taken place throughout
the trial?

To me it seems Hodlonaut put together a seriously strong case, right from day 1 the
points facts presented were big punches but the use of KPMG was a fantastic
idea, why hadnt that tactic been used before by Peter McCormack for instance?

A quick verdict may look rushed. Justice is famous for taking its time.

I don't know how the costs thing works, but I'm afraid CSW may try to drag it longer by dragging the completion of costs documents.
Even more, the Nov 8 may be the "upper limit" and the result may come earlier. I hope so.

Yeah, it seems from Bitcoin Magazine's latest video that the result may well come before then, and the judge said she would give a one day notice period to both parties before the judgement is published. Still disappointing that they haven't released the raw footage that they have from the last few days but have just made a bunch of videos of them talking about it. We want to see CSW's fails in person please!

Also, it may be that it is possible to request that the KPMG report full of CSW's forgeries be released to the public: https://nitter.it/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1572272323381559298#m. Wouldn't that be fun. ;)

How much is paperwork and procedures that just take time. The decision has been made, now it must be written, proof read, documented, references cited, those references checked, approvals from others, and so on. It seems to be the same in a lot of courts, when it's major and important and you can pull in a bunch of people things can get done quickly. For things like this, although *we* think it's important, it really is just another case and it gets done when it gets done.

For now we can only sit and wait.

Since I only really know US courts and how long they take I can't comment as to that amount of time in general being fast or slow or average.

-Dave

as DaveF pointed out..
both sides have said what is needed to be said. its not for the judge to investigate every detail during the trial.. as that just slows down the trial and adds costs to both parties.
but now the trial is over, now its time for the judge and their assistants to read through it all again, and check out the references and evidence and scrutinise the detail and come to a conclusion.

the judge probably will now learn more about bitcoin and signing processes and also the ATO case documents of CSW and all the other stuff to just get a full understanding of it all

to us crypto experienced people the verdict we see/want is obvious now.
but to an outside with no previous clue about crypto. there is alot to churn through to fully know whats real and not

Did they state anywhere whether it will be released at a later time maybe?
I guess if the original is out there, we wouldn't watch their commentary and go directly to the source instead, so that may be a reason.. ;D

I've yet to catch up on day 7, therefore I may have missed such announcement.

The KPMG report is now available for viewing here: https://www.reddit.com/r/bsv/comments/xlilzv/fresh_from_oslo_kpmg_report_into_craig_wrights/

And a thread briefly discussing just a few of the issues here: https://nitter.it/wizsecurity/status/1573295840248172545

My personal favorite is where the ">" symbol is changed to a "<" symbol in a different font, not only making the forgery completely obvious, but also making the equations in the whitepaper incorrect and meaningless. The true work of Satoshi. Lol.

This is proof that even with a lot of money and an army of lawyers, you still have to be intelligent in order to create a top-notch forgery, which might then be believed by an inexperienced/bribed judge or some senseless commission or something, as was the case in Colombia. Anywhere else in the civilized world with a somewhat independent judiciary, Faketoshi and similar fraudsters don't stand a chance and are starting to look more and more like people who have started to lose touch with reality.

It is becoming increasingly clear that CSW's complete ineptitude with all things bitcoin extends to all things technical and computing related. These forgeries are some of the most obviously faked things I can possibly imagine. The whitepaper equations being invalidated and him not even realizing are hilarious. Here's another hilarious one: https://nitter.it/bitnorbert/status/1573577987525574656#m. He tried to forge Kleiman's signature by typing it in a handwriting font.

I do wonder why his lawyers allowed this nonsense to be submitted? Are they completely incompetent too? Or did CSW submit it without their knowledge?

LOL I can't believe he is so stupid to use public font Otto that is available for free commercial use  :D
His law team are well aware of this scam but now they have no other choice than to continue playing this circus show with him as a main clown.

Wait a second, I just received few more ''secret messages'' written by ''DaVe KleiMaN'' using exact same handwritting:

https://i.imgur.com/0psnA70.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QljLfCW.jpg
https://www.1001fonts.com/otto-font.html

So long as he or his benefactors keep paying I don't think they care. Makes you wonder how many cases are in the courts because the lawyers involved are just taking all their clients money because if they don't they know someone else will.

As for everything else, it's obvious that they are bad forgeries but it's also obvious that BSV is a scam shitcoin and people keep flocking to it, so there is that side too.

Hopefully the judge nails CSW to wall so to speak and we can all move on.

-Dave

I would imagine that Craig is way smarter than his lawyers (and the lawyers of the other side too)... It's part of the reason why guys like him tend to have to rotate through attorneys because they are always way smarter than their lawyers.  

Many attorneys (the more integrity-based ones) do not like having such rogue (renegade) clients, but like DaveF mentioned, many attorneys will still go through the representation motions if the pay keeps flowing and makes up for their inconveniences and possible risks to their licenses by representing such scammers/scandals.

It's not over?

How high is Hodlnaut's probability to win the case? I believe high, but would he still be required by the court to pay more than €200,000 like after the proceedings were finished in the U.K.? It's a personal win, but also a loss too, and if none of the cases prove that Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi, big loss for the Bitcoin community.

For those people who followed the legal drama but stopped, this is the timeline, https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/timeline-of-hodlonaut-craig-wright-case

Yeah. At the start of the proceedings however many years ago, CSW was being represented by Ontier. At some point he changed over to these new layers from Schjodt. In the trial he claimed it was because his previous lawyers refused to let him bring forward witnesses (???). Perhaps it was actually his previous lawyers insisted on some kind of hard evidence rather than just hearsay, and when presented with the stack of obviously forged documents, emails, code, etc. which ended up being submitted, they just noped out of there realizing that CSW is a complete liability. But as you say, there is always someone else willing to take on losing cases if they will be paid handsomely for doing so. And although costs have not yet been submitted, I've been reading suggestions CSW's legal fees were more than double those of Hodlonaut.

the other thing CSW forged which many are not talking about and CSW didnt do much care in editing to seem plausible to his timeline. is that "his first version" of bitcoin code (0.0.8 ) which was meant to be released to specific people CSW knew before 2009.. had a genesis hash.. of a block that contained the quote of a newspaper headline that was not even published until 2009
edit
(not the "version" in latest case reveal. but one he released as "2008 proof" a couple years ago.. (he loves to edit. then edit then edit then edit changing his story multiple times over the years))
..
you have to remember 2 key points about CSW motives
1. he doesnt care, win or lose..
2. he sees each public event he attends, every debate, every interaction, every court case as a recruitment campaign..

he doesnt want to show accurate information. he wants to show things with flaws.
why.. because if idiots contact him and believe his narrative he automatically knows the person contacting him is a idiot that believes anything
thus an easy new victim to con

its also a display of how he can scam people and get away with it. which is another recruitment method. greedy immoral people seeing a guy get away with scamming people. going to court but never seeing prison makes greedy other scammers want to get in on the game

scamming people in the amounts of millions but only having to pay hundreds of thousands in court costs.. is what some call "cost of doing business", as it scares off his victims from trying to sue him. knowing it ends up costing them more than they lost individually

There are so many problems with CSW's 0.0.8 code that it cannot be believed by a thinking person. He somehow included a bug fix which Hal Finney wouldn't point out for several months, but then reversed the bug fix for when he released 0.1.0. He somehow includes a compressed bitcoin address, support for which wouldn't be implemented for several years. His 0.0.8 file has an incorrect checksum, but its checksum just magically happens to validate perfectly for version 0.1.0. He includes code plagiarized directly from this forum, including cutting off early with incomplete code as a post on this forum did when it hit the character limit (apparently he was too stupid to realize the next post in the thread had the rest of the code).

The whole thing is an absolute smorgasbord of incompetence.

Damn, is that for real? :D Is this supposed '0.0.8 version' of his uploaded anywhere? That's hilarious!!

That's a very good point. It reminds me of email scams apparently being bad / low effort by design, such that they only reach people who are (1) dumb to fall for scams and (2) probably too poor to bring charges against the scammers.

Sooo, did we just determine CSW is not only not satoshi, but also a 'Nigerian Prince scammer'? :D

ok so i have a tough question to ask the last 4 people that posted..
it might seem harsh and tough to answer and may seem like a poke. but i feel the answer will answer their own biggest question of why is CSW lying and his partners believe/follow him even when there is evidence that debunks what he says

i am not interested in yet another social drama debate. im not even asking you to answer which would out yourselves, but just think about the answer for your own purpose

so first a describer
within the last 5years . some individuals that dont like researching have been fooled via social bias and echo chamber games of a narrative they trust due to social allegiances/loyalties  where the story is that there was a btc upgrade that was, in their belief a natural, soft consensus upgrade.
.. but the only proof ever shown of their narrative was each other quoting other people as their source of proof(echo chambers)
vs
the hard facts of node code of mandatory hard fork. petition/agreement document of economic nodes agreeing to flag for the mandatory effort to activate it with a fake promise of a extra upgrade later to appease the upgrade objectors.
and backed up by the hard immutable data of the blockchain plus the data of the altcoin created at the date. which all show that the mandatory contentious hardfork occurred..

where these people have been loyally and robustly trying to push the fake narrative soft upgrade narrative for upto 5 years. and want to cause debate if anyone talks about the real events

so the question (its rhetorical and i dont need to know it. just answer it in your mind for your own enlightenment)

why after 5 years do certain people still prefer to follow the social drama narrative of lies, just to back up and be obedient to their buddy group.
rather than admit they fell for social drama lies
rather than just come clean.
rather than realise there is actual evidence that debunks the narrative. rather than admit they were wrong, get over it and move on with their lives

i dont need to know the answer. the answer is for yourselves to think about and realise that people are too easy to trust other people based on some social/greed reason. where they even want to play dumb or ignorant at the hard data that debunks their beliefs

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CSW has never shown good knowledge of his supposed IT, data forensics degree's but he really is well versed in his theology degree and he uses it more then any other degree he supposedly has

theology: the study in how people believe in something unseen/mystical without needing proof

Well, well, well. A lot of things are happening here. I saw the previous thread but didn't bother to read the OP. So, I didn't get what was happening. Yesterday I noticed a thread on Meta, and I came from there to an unmoderated thread than here. I read a few articles and then most of the posts. I was wondering what the heck CSW is. I was aware of this fraudster and knew that some legal action was taken against him. That's back in 2020, I guess. I didn't know who filed the case. That's why I didn't understand the Term Hodlonaut. That's all before reading the BitcoinMagazine timeline.

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Now, Who supports CSW? Are there any members from this forum who are also supporting CSW?
Why it's too hard to prove him wrong? It's been a few years already. You guys won't be able to win or lose, and it will hang like this for a decade until the court has some intelligent judge. They don't even understand the mechanism of Bitcoin. At least their lawyer should be more educated about Bitcoin. Just Ask CSW to sign a message from Satoshi's Bitcoin Address. Ask him to Access His Bitcointalk account. Ask him to access the email: satoshin@gmx.com. He needs all those to prove his claim, and I know he won't be able to do that. I wonder how the court will judge them if they don't understand the mechanism. CSW is getting special attention from the Bitcoin community. By Attending every press conference and other places, he promoted his scams, and people knew about his project. It's another proof that he is not Satoshi. Why would Satoshi need to create another coin with the same supply while Bitcoin dominates the market?

Of course in the court system, depending on the kind of case that is litigated, there might be some questions about whether CSW is actually Satoshi, and many times, there is no need to really answer that question in terms of whether anyone needs to prove that CSW is not satoshi.. because the burden is actually (or should be) on CSW to show that he is Satoshi.. not for others to prove that he is not.

Of course, the lower threshold has been met many times, including 2015/2016 when CSW started becoming quite vocal about supposedly being Satoshi and never actually proving it when he has the burden to prove it.

So the court cases get confusing depending on what is the issue that is being discussed, and in a court case like this, the initial lawsuit was in the UK filed by CSW saying that Hodlonaut had sufficiently defamed CSW and caused damage to CSW through such defamations.  So the trial was filed in Norway in order to attempt to preempt the ability to go forward with the UK trial to establish that Hodlonaut could not be sued in the UK over such issue because the Norway courts had resolved the matter. 

So then sometimes there can be questions regarding who has the burden of proof and who has the burdens to produce evidence, and these kinds of issues will vary from court to court in terms of what kinds of questions that the court believes that it is attempting to resolve so then there would be questions in terms of whether the charging party has met its burden of production and its burden of proof.. so in this case Hodlonaut had become the charging party because he was trying to preclude the bringing of the case in which CSW had been the charging party.

But if we get back to the question of defamation and whether Hodlonaut had based his accusations (defamation) against CSW in ways that were sufficiently reasonable and fair in terms of what others had thought about CSW based on information then available during the times of the allegedly defamatory statements, but then there can be some value in producing evidence to show that the alleged defamatory statements were actually true, even though when there is not exactly freedom of speech in some locations, then the truth of the statements might not even be a complete defense to whether a person could end up being liable if there are assertions that the statements in themselves had caused the damages (in this case damages to CSW's reputation and even income capabilities). 

I guess part of my point is that questions regarding who has what burdens can become confused, even though the court will likely come out with a decision to say whether or not Hodlonaut met his burden to sufficiently establish that he had not defamed CSW to a high enough level that would preemptively cause the Norway case from being able to be decided in the UK because the matter had already been sufficiently resolved by the Norway case.

No matter what the court says, it would be enough to establish CSW as not being Satoshi, and I am sure that they would get a lot of pushback if they were to proclaim that he is Satoshi, but in either case, the vast majority of regular bitcoiners (and even shitcoiners) realize that CSW has the burden of production and the burden of proof to show that he is Satoshi and he has not even come close to meeting either of those burdens... the burden of production would be providing signed keys from known satoshi blocks and the burden of proof would be to convince us that those signed keys were valid and that those really are satoshi blocks or whatever further argumentation that might be needed to connect the evidence provided with the logic regarding why CSW is satoshi... which many of us know that if CSW had the capabilities to accomplish such, he would have already done it... so all these alternative means are hardly convincing and even many times go the opposite of what CSW is supposed to be trying to show (that he is Satoshi).

They definitely are unconvincing, but that might not be the intention at all. CSW knows he's not Satoshi, and knows the public knows that too. He also knows he has no proof to convince us otherwise, so rather than convincing, he's intention might be to bully everyone to at best, not challenge his stand that he indeed is Satoshi, even if you do not believe it.

This sort of trial is straining on those involved. Hodlonaut would have wanted none of this publicity and financial demands that comes with the suit, many others would also not want that. So bullying people to silence, would leave none to challenge his stance or proof the inaccuracies in his position to the world, or court.

To be fair, that change alone would be consistent with it being a "draft" that he supposedly fixed.  What blows that up is that it's the correct symbol in the other font.  So it was impossible for it to be an error, the wrong character had to come from being substituted with a font that didn't exist until long after the paper's supposed date. Same issue that lambda has.  It is funny that when checking his forgery wright didn't even notice wingdings replacing his mathmatics. :P

Ironically, the theology degree is almost certainly the fakest of them all. It looks like the situation there was that he wanted varrious masters degrees for self promotion purposes and learned that his crackerjack school would grant credit for IT certificates (which are done via computer based testing, which presumably he cheated at). But a problem he should have faced there is that he had no undergraduate degree to meet the prerequisites. So he cooked up a fake theology degree because who the heck is going to check on that?


I think harassment and intimidation is clearly a primary motivation-- he's pretty much said so himself in some of his more unhinged rants on his public slack (during hodl he was falsely alleging that the slack was private: Not so, not any more than a newspaper you have to pay for a subscription to is private).

Mr. Wright himself must know that he has zero chance in court-- even where he might have the chance of a massively confused court he manages to submit enough easily beyond-a-reasonable-doubt-provable-forgeries that his eventual loss is guaranteed.   But the same may not be true for the people financing him (and paying for his lifestyle).  I think it's likely that he's suckered various high-wealth-low-scruples people into thinking that they're going to "won all the cases" and get a jackpot of tens of billions of dollars.

It's really just a new take on a very classic con:  I convince you that I'm a card hustling savant but down on my luck because I got caught by the last casino (AU tax office) and now I can't finance my big comeback. The mark gets the idea of financing me so I can take down the big win (convince some court to magically award Satoshis Bitcoin), and I accept a split with the mark.  I pretend to work with the mark to get the big score, but I'm really just pocketing as much of the mark's money as I can while I keep dragging out the conclusion.   The fact that I can use the process to harass and intimidate anyone who gets in my way is just a super bonus.

God knows what they could pull off if they really did manage to silence and intimidate everyone.

Before being the target of litigation I really didn't appreciate how taxing it is.  Especially being in a prolonged situation where you can count on any word you speak being heavily misconstrued, where you have no hope of a gain only a hope of minimizing losses,  where your future schedule is dictated by what is by all appearances an organized crime group directed by a madman. Where you don't know if you will be hit with millions of dollars in costs if donors run into issues or be forced to abandon a competent defense if you can't pay them. Lately they've been trying like hell to silence me off the internet completely.

It's like how people romanticize war, but war is not romantic-- it's hell.  While I'm sure being the target of litigation is not comparable to war,  there are some similarities-- your future being taken out of your hands, the constant powerless *waiting* for the next disaster to strike commanding a immediate emergency response, and the fact that any misstep could guarantee your loss, even against a generally incompetent opponent. Lots of people want to help but there is really little anyone else can do except sending supplies... And while normally litigation doesn't involve the risk of death, when dealing with a criminal cartel that thinks you're in the way of billions of dollars in profit that risk can't be discounted completely (certainly there have been enough threats, including by wright himself (https://files.catbox.moe/f3hd2k.opus)).


https://files.catbox.moe/ek1582.png


FWIW, I was on the webex for most of the trial and so I directly heard all the parts in English --there were quite a few that haven't been published-- and had some other translation of much of the rest.  Based on the twitter feeds I think Hodlo's position is looking good, but my impression from the trial was even stronger.  There were a number of cases where I was disappointed to not hear Holdonaut's lawyer press a witness only for the *judge* to turn around and do so.

There were a number of cases of perjury that should be prosecutable but experience says that just won't happen.

In general the Norwegian courts came across as very ... soft. Not pressing witnesses into corners when it seemed likely that doing so would yield an admission or a contradiction,  I guess we'll see if that translates into an equally soft rulings.  The judge very much was paying attention and asked many highly intelligent questions.

Very important to be reminded about. He's not the only one out there who already do not give a damn about their reputation (or are unable to give a damn due to some socio-psychological issue).

They want followers, they want exposure, visibility. Because for every one of us who can pinpoint his forgery/fraud, there will be many more who don't, who believe CW, who buy him and want more. I know, because I've met some of them!

So perhaps, we need to be careful about feeding that flame.

They will take money from the rubes on twitter for sure-- but most of those folks aren't a rounding error in terms of the cost of their litigation. They are spending many millions on litigation.  Do the math on what they're likely getting from the rabble.  Pretending to just be trolls that want attention is part of the disguise that creates an ineffective response to the attack.

Mainly rich idiots he has fooled in to believing his scam. There are a handful of users on this forum who pop up occasionally with their support for BSV, but usually leave after being confronted with mountains of evidence against CSW for which they have no rebuttal.

It's not, really. We all know he is wrong. He has been proved wrong multiple times, from signed messages from addresses he claimed to own calling him a fraud, through to complete dismantling of the forgeries he presents as "evidence". But CSW has been smart enough so far to make sure none of his court cases are to determine whether or not he is Satoshi (because he isn't), but are on parallel nonsense like "These tweets hurt my feelings" and "The devs are legally bound to fork the code".

100% this.

Easily explained by the fact CSW does not understand the math in the whitepaper and therefore had no idea his forgery was incorrect. There are similar instances of him incorrectly plagiarizing equations in many of his academic publications and not realizing his mistakes because he doesn't understand what he is plagiarizing.

It's largely because of the basic egoistic nature of most people being too proud and arrogant to admit that they were in the wrong, so in order to hide that, they make nonsensical excuses which lead to more nonsensical theories and so on.

Fundamentally, I think the issue is just with how brazen these creeps have become.  They're not worried about losing a lawsuit here or there because they think (correctly?) they're immune. The people they're attacking don't have that comfort.

https://files.catbox.moe/ve2wtn.jpg

That's interesting. I didn't know that information. So, What if satoshi ever wanted to come back? I know it's unlikely to happen. The chance is very, very low. But, I believe satoshi knows where to knock. I am wondering if there were some credentials or sensitive information about the email compromised. What if the hacker stole that information to misuse them? Well, I guess satoshi is more clever enough than most of us. So, it's implausible he will have such information in his email.

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In the first place, I was confused by the term "CSW". I believe most people outside this forum don't know what CSW is. Even I googled "What is the full form of CSW?". Mr. Google said it's the "Commission on the Status of Women (CSW)." While Wikipedia shows it's a Clinical social worker. Even though it sounds silly and funny, I would still encourage people to Write Craig Steven Wright because we are talking about a Fraustar here. If people from outside the forum read this thread, they are unlikely to understand what we are talking about. I am saying this because it's happened to me as well.

though he is a fraudster.. we should not give him more name recognitions and publicity

we should be letting his full name not hit news paper headlines.

we should however get people to learn how to do basic research and due diligence

then as 'anotheralt' just learned in 30 seconds, figures out that a certain person is a fraud

however spamming his full name everywhere doesnt help the fight against him. its actually publicises him, which is something he wants.. he wants to be known as a scam king, the guy that can steal and fake collateral and not be criminally punished. because thats HIS recruitment advert of grabbing onto more greedy idiots into his game

if we teach people to do research, due diligence and not trust strangers, or people due to just name recognition.. it helps people out more in the long term than just faming up one guy that wants fame

its the old saying .. "give a man a phish or teach a man to watch out for and catch a phish"

With all due respect Franky,  "he just wants attention, don't mention him" is exactly how we ended up in the situation we're in today.  It's also just not true: he flies into a blind rage about anyone speaking negatively of him-- he absolutely can't tolerate it, he has screamed at people in interviews, he even threw a book in court once.  It's part of the reason that he keeps making the same mistakes even after the public has caught on and called them out: he can't stand reading people criticizing him so he doesn't always know which lies have been blown apart.  He usually only sees what bitcoiners are saying about him once the comments have been filtered through his supporters and neutralized.

He does like coverage that treats his claims seriously-- as in that they're merely disputed rather than thoroughly disproved but that isn't what anyone here is doing. It is, however, what the media does reflexively.

Edit (to avoid a double-post):  LOL  Mr. Wright's "evidence" is out: https://www.reddit.com/r/bsv/comments/xp5qy9/fresh_from_oslo_craig_wrights_submitted_evidence/

The binary is so awesomely fake.  In particular, I love seeing that when he made strings shorter because the offsets needed to be preserved he space padded them... either because he didn't know better or because his hatred of me prevented him from using the much more plausible null character instead of spaces.

its not about give up debunking him..
its not about not fighting his games

its about playing smarter

if we dont mention[full name]its hard for him to say his [full name] is being defamed

if we call a random 3letter moniker 'CSW' a fraud, scammer, idiot.. its then becomes his fault of then wanting to associate himself with this known scammer of 3 letters we talk about

yes anyone in 30 seconds can search and find the linkage.

but for [fullname] to do it. also means he then has to explain the context and the lengths of debunks we provide against CSW tactics. which he has to explain proves the linkage

thus he cant/ wont try to sue people as easily

..
there are many many ways we can debunk him. and promote the debunks without promoting him and without falling into his SLAPP trap

its about doing things smarter.. out-game his game

I think that we may need both.
We need to play smarter so no new people come under his attention, or worse, gets silenced.
And we need to debunk him - in court! - in a way he will never ever get taken serious by any court in the world. And maybe even punished for his forgeries and for wasting people's time and money (plus health, since I agree with Greg, war is hell).

Besides signing a message from the genesis block address or signing a message with satoshi's PGP is there any other way to prove that CSW is Satoshi?

Can theymos provide evidence from e.g. Satoshi's private messages that CSW is lying or you think it will involve the forum in unnecessary problems of a legal nature?

This is amazing to see for ourselves. Thanks for sharing.

The binary changes are absolutely hilarious. The space padding, the removal of %d, the original genesis hash with a headline which hadn't been published in 2008, the checksum, and so on. So amateurish and beyond any doubt whatsoever that this is all forgery. Any idea where the edited IP address is from?

Been flipping through all the other submitted evidence in that archive. "Bilag 20" is his printed off whitepaper with coffee stains and staples, with equations which make no sense and contain characters and fonts which didn't exist at the time. "Bliag 24" is his submitted main.cpp which is taken from a post on this forum and cuts off at the same character limit, meaning it is missing half the code. Of course CSW didn't even notice. Again, hilarious to see for yourself.

Tin-foil hats on. I believe they're funded by a powerful entity, or a group, probably could even be the CIA or some other intelligence organization who can operate in the shadows.

Where does Craig Wright get his funding for NChain? How can Craig Wright escape the Australian government regarding his tax evasions?  Plus didn't Calvin Ayre work with people from the U.S. goverment, allegedly doing dirty jobs before?

I don't think we're going to be taking any lessons from you on that front, given how your little one-man-war against parts of the Bitcoin community is going.  Remind me again how many people you've managed to bring over to your side on that one?  Pretty sure it's zero.  Your track record clearly demonstrates you haven't unlocked the recipe for success.  

That "relentless, yet impotent" routine you put on, along with your tired repetition of sad conspiracy theories just isn't going to cut it on this one, I'm afraid.  You keep saying we're the experts when it comes to the REKT campaigns, so why don't you stand by your own words for a change and leave the strategy to us, okay?  

The day we take advice from you about "playing smarter" is the day we hand victory to Wright on a platter.   ::)

Intelligence agencies have been known to recruit people like Wright, the loose cannon grandiose narcissist pathological liar fantasist free agent type -- they're totally deniable as kooks and cons if things go wrong and they are easily controlled via copious dirt and their propensity for a 'fast' lifestyle.  But if it's true for Mr. Wright, we'll never know so I think it's not very useful to speculate about other than this:  Because it *could* be a state actor, we ought to fight it with all the vigor we'd fight an attack by a state actor.


Ayre. This isn't speculation, e.g. https://www.cswarchive.info/sites/default/files/2021-08/2020_04_22%20Filing%20-%20Amended%20Reply.pdf  page 4 paragraph 4b. "it is admitted that the Claimant is being funded by a third party in these proceedings, namely Calvin Ayre. The Claimant has taken out a Bitcoin SV denominated commercial loan against the Claimant's and the Tulip Trust's Bitcoin and Bitcoin SV holdings, that will be be paid back to Mr Ayre."

There should be plenty of details on nchain elsewhere in the evidence too.

There may be others, I could speculate but I'd rather just give the one I'm absolutely sure of.

Well he got money from his bamboozled sponsors to pay back AU which probably moved him to a lower priority.  If you look at news announcements for similar convictions you'll see that it took them a decade to prosecute other similar tax frauds, so Mr. Wright may just be waiting his turn.

Ayre had a bit of his own fantasist blogging about being a secret agent or something.  Likely bullshit similar to Wright's "I was offline for much of January 2011. During the time, I had travelled to Venezuela where I was working with a “Jawbreaker” team. The work was focused on stopping the trafficking of humans for the sex trade. I was in “prevention.” I did not bring people to justice, I worked with teams to stop things, permanently.".  I wouldn't put much weight into it.

As Franky1 says-- we should work smarter, and that much I agree. On that mark: The varrious more speculative theories might be true or not, but I think they're of no use in dealing with the situation unless we stumbled into some evidence that actually proves one of them-- and then it wouldn't be a speculative theory anymore.

In any case, what I really came here to post was:

Mr. Wright's "revolutionary" "2007 Bitcoin Whitepaper" (https://nt4tn.net/scammer-craig-wright/2007.wrightpaper.transcribed.pdf) << click the link
(transcribed from the handwritten version in the Hodl trial evidence)

You may have seen the first page/paragraph when it was transcribed on reddit (http://(https://www.reddit.com/r/bsv/comments/xe6c0a/wuckert_disobeyed_the_court_and_photographed/ioexydl/) after being shown on screen in court.  Now experience the entire uncut masterpiece in quadraphonic legible text!  Flex your faketoshi history by determining a likely true authorship date of the document based on Mr. Wrights inability to resist adding anachronistic grandstanding in support of whatever pathetic argument he was presently engaged. Marvel at how anyone could be convinced by any of this. Laugh, cry, and most of all blush with embarrassment on his behalf because, unlike Mr. Wright, your mental model of other people is more expansive than just coming up with ways of ripping them off.

(Or, if you're a true masochist Wright debunker, check out the original 78 page illegible version here (https://nt4tn.net/scammer-craig-wright/2007.wrightpaper.pdf) or as part of the full archive (https://www.reddit.com/r/bsv/comments/xp5qy9/fresh_from_oslo_craig_wrights_submitted_evidence/).  The original also contains the *forbidden names of bitcoin* b-side content, not included in the top-post's translation into legiblease).


Don't just take my word for it, here's what the audience says:

* "Astounding, One cuil (http://cuiltheory.wikidot.com/what-is-cuil-theory) short of timecube (https://timecube.2enp.com/)!"
* "It should be written on the outside of a van that an unmedicated schizophrenic lives in, not submitted as evidence to a court of law"
* "Meh. Continuity errors, incorporated the cryddit 2013 timeline in the prior chapter but didn't bother including its parameters in this latest installment"

When this nightmare is finally over and CSW has lost the case to Hodlonaut, I will gladly rejoice for glory.


as I read through the 7 days trial (https://www.btctimes.com/news/a-summary-of-the-hodlonaut-versus-craig-wright-trial), CSW has no true evidence to prove himself wordy of Satoshi.


I wonder what CSW really meant by his response to that question,  if it will not prevent him from getting Satoshi coins, then court should prompt him to get back the 1.1 million Bitcoin he claim to hold.



I just wonder how dump it is to call him self Satoshi after he said to "HODL" is SCAM, then he claim to have 1.1 million Bitcoin.
 Hoping to see how this whole stuff end so shamefully for him.
#WeAreHODLONAUT

Faketoshis' fraud has had several phases.

• Phase 1. R&D refundable credit and GST refund tax fraud.
• Phase 2. Spanish prisoner / Nigeran prince con: I am the deposed creator of Bitcoin and need money to pay back tax officials but will pay you with my bitcoin fortune later.
• Phase 3a. Blockchain impersonation:  Convince funders that bitcoin knockoff BSV will replace Bitcoin in the eyes of the public, sell 'em a pig in a poke.
• Phase 3b. Big con: Convince his billionayre funder(s) that with their support Mr. Wright convince the courts to order bitcoin developers to magically grant them >$21 billion dollars worth of Bitcoin, and has convinced his marks that this is even possible.  (and that they can intimidate and harass into the dirt anyone that stands in their way.)

Hodlonaut's trial is mostly a holdover from 3a.  His his two lawsuits against former/current Bitcoin developers are soundly 3b.  His recent exchange lawsuits might be in between 3a and 3b-- AFAIK no one has seen the claims yet. Phase 1/2 seem to be complete and he's mostly now claiming that documents he used in 1/2 are forgeries planted by hackers (even when they're recent scans of supposedly old paper documents, covered in his handwriting).

The statement you're referring to from the trial was an effort at a self-serving remark in the furtherance of the 3b scheme.  Note that 3b doesn't require Wright himself to think jacking Satoshi's coins is possible, nor does it require his funders to think he's Satoshi. The mark thinks he's going to spend a few tens of millions and get a few tens of billions. All the litigation targets are just collateral damage, but it helps Mr. Wright that they're 'enemies' that have stood in his way by refusing to go along or be silent about his fraudulent claims.  Mr. Wright's goal would just be to keep the litigation going forever while his mark foots the bill -- from the very beginning Mr. Wright's has probably just been one desperate forced move after another to keep the whole thing from crashing down around him, it's unclear what kind of consequences he may face if it fails given that he's taken money from some apparently unscrupulous people.

If satoshi wants to come back under his old identity, AFAIK he needs to contact theymos securely and give sufficient proof. As for compromised email, 99bitcoin made good summary about it[1].


Aside from the binary, all he did is using "Find and Replace" feature on plain text files. But does anyone know whether Bitcoin address 12STD5BhabrNpx56pWuC6wctxz3Qf2gdD7 has ever mentioned on public discussion before? At very least, it never mentioned on this forum[2].

[1] https://99bitcoins.com/satoshi-nakamoto-hacked-waste-of-time/ (https://99bitcoins.com/satoshi-nakamoto-hacked-waste-of-time/).
[2] https://ninjastic.space/address/12STD5BhabrNpx56pWuC6wctxz3Qf2gdD7 (https://ninjastic.space/address/12STD5BhabrNpx56pWuC6wctxz3Qf2gdD7)

Not as far as I can tell. It has received and then sent out ~293.6 BTC a few minutes apart back in 2017. I think it's reasonable to assume its an address owned by CSW, which he was hoping he would later be able to sign from to "prove" he is Satoshi.

Note that this address comes from the following public key:

This is obviously a compressed public key, which were not implemented until version 0.6.0 of Bitcoin-Qt, released in March 2012. ::)

The main sponsor says "I'm a bit busy", and now it's clear what exactly he's busy with - it seems that his job is much more enjoyable than presenting false evidence in court. Maybe at some point Faketoshi will wish he had grabbed what he had and enjoyed in life, but maybe he is just enjoying his obsession with being someone he could never be.

https://i.imgur.com/KtFMyGv.png

Let me give you just one hint.
One government agency is known for ''talking'' with Gavin Andresen, and shortly after this happened Satoshi was gone and we can only speculate what really happened there.
But what we know for sure is that Gavin Andresen later claimed that he thinks Craig Wright is the real Satoshi, even if he never signed a message as a proof.
Gavin never clearly came out and said he was wrong, and almost infinite amount of money CSW team has is certainly rising suspicion.

Occam's razor says that the infinite money just comes from a kinda crooked former gambling kingpin-- they've spent a TON, but not out of proportion with what Calvin needs to be spending in order to spend all the money he claims to have.

And for Andresen there are plenty of simpler and less conspiratorial explanations-- including that it's well established that many victims of cons have a difficulty time accepting they've been had because its such an ego hit,  that the whole situation is so painful to him that he refuses to look at new evidence and so hasn't even seen what a joke Mr. Wright has made of himself since, that he now hates Bitcoin and the people involved and is happy of the harm being caused to all of us, that he's afraid of being dragged into ruinously expensive litigation with Mr. Wright himself and unlikely to get much public support given his role in creating the problem, and/or that he's financially motivated in the success of Bitcoin's competition over Bitcoin.  Any one of these would explain his continued failure to forcefully retract his prior endorsement and every one of them is simpler than him working on behalf of the CIA.

I think if we look carefully we'll find that it's an electrum wallet and that its traffic is consistent with payments he was made for 'coming out' as satoshi, we may be able to link it with his nchain salary payments on BSV and maybe the bucketshop trading he was doing under his wife's name.  Presumably someone around here has access to some of the commercial blockchain surveillance stuff.

gavin and many others all signed an NDA with a payday value included for the event involvement. im guessing breaching the NDA or coming clean came with a consequence/punishment clause


checking some notes of stuff i found over the years.. gavin didnt "talk" with... in a suggestive secret meeting. he done a public speaking engagement/presentation with government employees attending in the audience
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6652.msg251755#msg251755

yes satoshi heard about the CIA presentation invitation in april and it may have been one of his triggers to disappear and never come back. but other influences for the exit was that too many people treated satoshi like a central point decision maker. and also the wikileaks things. i feel satoshi disappeared for good for multiple reasons as he thought that bitcoin could and should continue without a central decision figure(point of failure)
as for thinking satoshi left due to hating what gavin done.. i doubt that because satoshi changed the privileges of the repo to put gavin in the lead maintainer spot when satoshi left, so it would be strange to give it over to a person you find as a attack vector (IE the reason you left)
so i think satoshi left for mostly other reasons

as for the gavin CSW fake proof drama..
gavin years prior said he was going to step away and retire within a few years (which aligned with the period he actually did start to back off from coding and maintaining btc). and so i feel he was just looking for a pay day to retire on in those last few years of 2015-17..
the same game as them unemployed family physicians that get paid to go on convention speaking tours where conspiracy nuts buy tickets.. stand on stage and say how covid was some alien robot programmed to kill. or the other conspiracy stories conspiracy nuts are willing to have repeated out loud by people that had a high reputation/accreditation earlier in life..
we all know gavin signed an NDA for CSW and got paid to turn up. so

basically he signed a contract to agree to  (my opinion->) say whatever CSW told him to say. or face having to repay the money if he breached the contract. hence no instant u-turn when faced with the debunk info

same money grab opportunity goes for his later attempts with BLOQ doing the alternate client releases that caused drama. (yep DCG owned bloq in 2016, before the whole gavin/jgarzik 2017 client variant)

so overall gavin was just money grabbing any money he could from any sources no matter the reactions those actions could cause to the community as a whole after performing the paid acts

EG in the 2015-16 REKT era gavin was speaking to companies like coinbase, xapo, bitpay(all DCG) about alternative scaling options via a bitcoin client that would upgrade the BTC network in a different direction than the core roadmap plan for BTC..in 2015-16
here he is talking at a coinbase(alsoDCG) about the scaling discussions he had with the big businesses
https://youtu.be/KUAXULUUBxA?t=283 which lead to the rekt capaigns

then we have the bloq(also DCG) varient in 2017

and the paid onstage speaking event at 2016 coindesks(also DCG) coinsensus conference where he again said he beleived CSW story
https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2016/05/02/blockchain-tech-leaders-debate-satoshi-mystery-and-scaling-at-consensus-2016/

it seems that gavin was highly paid by CSW and DCG rather than some thoughts of a CIA payday and government force..
of course you could run down a rabbit whole thinking DCG is "government" or CSW is government..  but i think its just capitalism and monopolisation by big business and scammers with deep pockets filled by scammer partners, paying greedy people to cause some discourse/drama.. not government

my view of gavin is he gave up caring about coding bitcoin in 2014 and just wanted to go on a last ditch money grab from as many sources as possible in 2015-16 to retire on and not really think/care about the consequences of his reputation/words he got paid to do/say

If you're interested, you can actually see the NDA that Andresen signed. It's part of the archive that Greg linked to earlier: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5413844.msg61016128#msg61016128. The file is "Bilag 13" in the "attachments" folder.

There is an identical NDA for Jon Matonis under "Bilag 12", and a similar one for GQ Magazine under "Bilag 14".

it has a 404 error on the link in the reddit post releasing the evidence. seems someone got it took down.
i was going over old notes from 5-7 years ago when gavin said he got paid to do the  signing witness event with CSW

the logical thing in all contracts is that there is a some kind of penalty for breaching the NDA.. else why have an NDA

but yea i would like to see the actual wording of the actual NDA

I hope somebody downloaded the evidence to their hard disk because the linked site on that reddit post is throwing 404 errors - it's no longer accessible.

I've got the archive downloaded. I can share images of the NDA tomorrow when I'm back home. If someone can tell me somewhere that will host the archive which won't 404, happy to upload it there too.

Edit: Greg beat me to it: https://www.reddit.com/r/bsv/comments/xp5qy9/fresh_from_oslo_craig_wrights_submitted_evidence/iqmpu1f?context=3

It didn't get taken down, litterbox urls are only good for three days.  I put a copy on my site and frontended it with archive.org-- so that should be more durable.

It's annoying that infrastructure like courtlistener doesn't exist everywhere. :)

Wow!  My first impression without getting any into any of the nitty-gritty of the actual language, the whole tone of the NDA appears as if Andressen had either not sought counsel or he just totally got railroaded like a newb in terms of the acceptability of the terms contained in the NDA.  Andressen should have perceived himself to have been in way better of a position to negotiate terms than to have that kind of baloney shoved down his throat.. but likely the fact of the matter is that Andressen perceived that the dumbass BIG Blocker agenda was blinding him too much in terms of wanting to push that nonsense - and in that regard, in early 2016, both Andressen and CSW shared in the big blocker bullshit that they were both then pushing.. and also, even though it was the earlier days of the BIG blocker nonsense.. they were likely considering themselves as allies in such ideas that now seem quite silly to a lot of us..

Was just about to upload it, but looks like it's already doing the rounds on Twitter: https://nitter.it/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1575785115061432320#m

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If you open the file "Bilag 15" from the pack that Greg has rehosted above, you can see the emails from Andresen pertaining to the signing session. In particular page 5, an email from Jon Matonis to Gavin Andresen, includes the following quote (emphasis mine):

On the following pages it seems that the only convincing Andresen asked for beyond that was an email from CSW on the current "State of Bitcoin". CSW's reply on pages 9-11 reads very much like CSW and not at all like Satoshi, but apparently was enough to convince Andresen.

This becomes fairly clear in the emails you can read in the following pages of the same document as above.

Arthur van Pelt has just posted Hodlonaut's team's closing arguments in the case, translated from Norwegian: https://mylegacykit.medium.com/closing-arguments-hodlonaut-c326771601ce

It's a great read, very well summarizing the complete lack of evidence and all of the forgeries on the side of CSW. 2.2 and 2.3 give a good summary of the forgeries, while 2.7 highlights the absolutely absurdity of his witnesses and their statements. Points 3 through 6 discuss the legal implications of hodlonaut's tweets and argue that they are not defamatory.

Still a month to go until we get a judgement.

Thanks for the link, very interesting and as written in the introduction it should make for
a great reference in the future.

Couple of quotes which I particularly like

Re: Manipulated documents

Re: Original Bitcoin Software 0.0.8


Re: 2.8 What must the court use as a basis?


The evidence which KPMG unearthed is quite damning of CSW, If hodlonaut doesn't get a favourable
judgment I would be surprised.

This is a great quote. Perfectly sums up everything to do with CSW - a big fat nothing burger.

In the interests of balance, here is the link to CSW's closing arguments: https://mylegacykit.medium.com/closing-arguments-craig-wright-1737e3531f7f

I've only very briefly read through it, but they spend a lot of time essentially hand waving about legality and witnesses, without presenting any hard evidence, much like the trial itself. Very interesting that they dedicate only a single paragraph to the KPMG report (4.6.1), and don't attempt to refute or even mention the barn door evidence of forgeries, such as the checksum or Finney's bug fix.

Hmm seems like the defense are concentrating on the time specifically around when
the tweets were taking place. They are trying to say at that time the concerted attack on CSW
was baseless.

This phrase keeps popping up "at the time of publication"

It's good thing he and his worker have poor knowledge to manipulate binary file or proper programming knowledge to modify and recompile the source code. Unmodified built-in checksum is big giveaway for manipulation attempt.


This part is easy to understand and should be main argument why he's a big liar. Someone should find and make a list various story lie.

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On a side note, i made archive request on archive.today for better backup diversity.
https://archive.ph/6rr8j (https://archive.ph/6rr8j)
https://archive.ph/84Hmd (https://archive.ph/84Hmd)

I wondered that too.  I thought one of the weaker elements of hodl's arguments (though it was covered in the oral closing argument) was that he didn't emphasize well enough that at the time none of wright's supposed witnesses or even the new 71 pieces of evidence were available:  Instead what hodl had to go on was what wright had put out so far (which was obviously fake), the opinions of experts like me, the inherent absurdity of the claims (claims to be satoshi, won't provide basic proof, says he will but fakes it).

So even if Wright were to *prove* he were satoshi right now, Hodlo should still win because his statements were reasonable at the time.

But I think strategically Hodlo really doesn't want the narrow win, he presumably wants a win that says "Wright wouldn't be able to convince the court that he was satoshi and so couldn't prevail in a defamation claim" -- both because that's more useful for other cases (such as his own) and much more protective of the community.   So I think they de-emphasized that line of argument.

It seems Wright's side views this as an opening, essentially going for a "it doesn't matter how fraudulent wright looks now, at the time the statements weren't justified" although I don't see how that works out for him if the courts impression is that he's more likely than not actually Satoshi-- which I think is extremely likely.

I guess the idea is that if they court is going to conclude that they're screwed, so they're arguing for the path to success they think they have left.  Where the court thinks wright is now obviously fake enough to justify those comments, but not so obviously fake at to block defamation on the basis of truth, but wasn't fake enough at the time (mostly because Hodlo's team didn't provide as strong of a case for that as they might have been able).

If that's going to happen, maybe that could be referenced/used in future trials CSW is/will be involved in, saving people's time and money. From that I know, that could be possible, but I don't know if cross-border.

Yes, I was thinking about this on the drive home from work today. This case could be the one
which starts the crumbling of CSW's house of lies and so could be an extremely important case.


That's a bit worrying that the court could see CSW as actually being Satoshi, especially
given all the evidence by KPMG of all the fakery.

Oh I don't think that is a serious concern. But the court could decide that to win on truth Holdo would have to *prove* Wright wasn't Satoshi and that he didn't achieve that.

You see how that's different, right?

like take craig out of it for a minute.  Would a court conclude that it was proven I was Satoshi?  Obviously not.  Would a court conclude that it was proven that I wasn't Satoshi?  Also obviously not.

Hodlo makes the case that to win on not-satoshiness he only needs to show that it's more likely than not that Wright isn't Satoshi.  If the court agrees with that standard then he will probably win on that basis.  But the court might decide that he needed to prove it by a higher standard, which it might decide that he hadn't met.  I think he actually met a very high level of proof but the court might not agree -- it's difficult to prove anything absolutely without the power of a criminal investigation:  The only evidence Hodlo got was what Wright provided, he didn't get to search Wright's home or computers, didn't get his email records, etc.

What a travesty that would be, that for some reason the burden of negative proof would be on Hodlonaut, rather than burden of proof being on CSW (one which he has spectacularly failed). If CSW's claim is the tweets defamed him because he is Satoshi, then the burden of proof should lie firmly on his shoulders to prove this is the case. Quod gratis asseritur, gratis negatur.

If the court rightfully find that all CSW's submitted forgeries are, well, forgeries, then it will certainly be interesting when it comes to future cases. Does he resubmit all his provably false documents? Does he come up with new forgeries instead? Does he just submit nothing at all?

The last thing I remember about the case is when his lawyers said that he accidentally stomped on the hard drives and I was literally like in tears of laugh that what they are presenting in the court for proving themselves right in the court.But as you say about forge documents then we all know what else he have to prove to the people? His whole idea is damn forge to be orginal Satoshi with all those fake claims and fake documents and now moving on to the verge of losing his savings as well in hope to earn those coins which never belonged to him.The one who cannot sign a transaction which is simple scenario for bitcoiners to prove the ownership is fighting in courts.

But we all know how judicial system can be well manipulated through financial powers and even forge documents tell the truth then but as the case needs to be presented in fair manner and Hodlonaut will definitely be on winning side on this one and clown will get nothing but empty pockets.

Exactly. Somebody's gotta take down this guy's (Wright) claims for good before he becomes a crypto Trump and influences an untold number of people.



When was this email written? And why is Gavin still emphasizing that CSW is the bitcoin creator?

This particular email is dated "March 14, 2016 7:27 PM".

Interestingly, there is an email from Gavin dated April 6, 2016, which asks for the following from the signing session:

Of course, we now know that Gavin did not receive anything even close to any of those things. CSW includes the following in his reply:

Particularly ironic given the whole hodlonaut trial is about CSW claiming that hodlonaut's tweets stopped him from attending conferences. ::)

That guy's words are worth the value of the text file they are typed in.

Fixed that for you. ;)

I wonder how exactly could this happen when he was banned from twitter for a while, unless this happened before he was baned.
Maybe he was glued to the screen, reading hodlonaut tweets and writing replies on his own version of social network I can't remember it's name called twetch.
Meanwhile I see that hodlonaut was talking with one @MarkEglinton who said he wanted to write an ''objective'' article, but it appears he is long time supporter of CSW and CAyre.  :D
https://nitter.priv.pw/hodlonaut/status/1580554455006605313

When will be the verdict announced?
If I remember correctly it was in the middle of October ( or maybe it was November).

The judge said she will notify the both parties a few days prior, when she is ready, but I can't find any more info about it. 

The official deadline is November 8th, but we're expecting/hoping it to be announced earlier than that.
The October 7 you may be remembering was only to fill the costs papers.

Thanks dude! That's why I was thinking about October, I listened the whole trial, and now I remember that there was this about the costs.
Damn, I cannot wait until 8th of November. Getting exiting already...

Fortunately, you don't have to: https://twitter.com/hodlonaut/status/1583086284792205312

Good news. So what happens to Craig now?

He takes more money from his marks and continues using it to fund a campaign of harassment and intimidation against Bitcoin developers and advocates in order to continue to put on a show of attempting to steal Satoshi's coins,  same as before. :(

Probably also a bunch of gaslighting to allege that he actually won in Norway.

I know that everything is possible, but honestly I was convinced that there would be no other outcome than this - the evidence is more than clear even for someone who is not an expert, in this case a judge in a Norwegian court. Given that Hodlonaut won, does that mean he won't need the funds he collected through the campaign - and what will happen to those funds in that case?


The man is a proven pathological liar, but does it even make sense to lie that you won the case in court if the verdict is more than clear?

He did so in Florida even after getting a $100 million USD judgement against him (+$49m interest), he claimed won because his opponent didn't prevail on literally every claim they made.  I assume he'll do exactly the same in this case.  Does it make sense?  A *lot* of the media went forward with an uncritical claim that he won (and even that the case proved he was Satoshi!) copied right out of Wright's PR material fraudulently published as "journalism" in coingeek.

Here is a translation of the decision:  https://files.catbox.moe/x8n18i.pdf

i know the case started with the courts saying it did not want to be involved in proving/disproving "satoshi". where it only wanted to decide on if hodlonaut was the genesis instigator of CSW negative rep.. which is clear he was not. but i am also glad the court also mentioned that CSW us a proven liar and that the evidence still points to that CSW is not satoshi

i bet hodlonaut is currently excited, happy, relieved, exhausted and celebrating. i can imagine him now relieving the dead weight off his shoulders, that was pressing on him for the last 3 years, he deserves a stiff drink and a vacation to finally relax. and bask in the glory


i also hope this result wakes up the CSW fangirls where they start to sue CSW for misled investments, maybe even hope some whistle blow on some CSW criminal scams that can get CSW in criminal court with some proper punishment...


..
anyway hodlonauut deserves the ~$670k of which ~$450k is legal costs plus all the celebrations, congratulations and donations we as a community want to give him.

Congrats to Hodlonaut and to the greater Bitcoin community. It’s nice to see the courts get something right. Having all of his costs paid is also a great thing. Considering much of the funds were donated to pay his fees, this has got to feel like a nice gift at the end of a long struggle. I hope this keeps faketoshi from suing devs and others instead of giving him the fuel to continue doing horrible things. This is a big win for us all.

I got a tweet notification from Norbert, the first thing I saw was... 🎉

Like Lucius
And is indeed great to see a court of law finally state what we all knew.

We have many anniversaries in Bitcoin world I think this is another "hodlonaut day"

Thank you!!! Finally, Mr. Wrong was proven wrong... Next step is confirmation of the same statement in UK!!
That's another great news after bsv fee statement and "freezing" and the legal threats and turning the miners against him...

Pedophile or what? :o

Man, am I glad this is over and true justice is served. Although in the case of Craig Wrong, it would be true justice if he was sent to a mental health facility which cures him of his seemingly psychopathic mental state. Or at least keeps him away from the public where he can do no more harm.

Egotistical, petty, delusional and power hungry. These types of people are always trying to screw other people over to make themselves richer/more powerful/etc. Although who knows, this might all be a giant ploy to get Satoshi to reveal himself. Not that I am much of a conspiracy theorist but I do enjoy the occasional conspiracy.

Anyway, great news for the Hodlnaut. Hopefully we will see some more good news in the coming days about Bitcoin adoption, after all this free BTC PR thanks to faketoshi. ;D


Hire some pirates to start sinking yachts in international waters/or docked in third-world South American countries and we will see most of this trash disappear in a few years.

He gets called out as a liar, an impostor, a fraud and a conman at every turn for the rest of his life.  The usual I-am-not-a-lawyer disclaimer applies, but it sounds as though legal precedent is on our side should any of us decide to publicly dismantle Wright's facade in a humiliating fashion.

It's open-season on shady scumbag identity thieves.    :)

Not enough. Zero ethics make you immune to such offends. I want him behind the bars.

I am sure he is going to continue with his lawsuits with other people in other countries, because this is only related with country Norway.
Judge ruled that is lied and cheated to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto, so it's confirmed again he is a fraud.
He won't go in jail for sure (maybe he should) but I am expecting he is going to pay a lot of money to Hodlonaut aka Magnus now  :D

Let me take a quick look at their propaganda website coingeek...title say ''Granath v Wright Oslo verdict: Hodlonaut not liable for defamation in Norway''.
They claim this is only ''Round One'' and they will continue parallel defamation case in the United Kingdom next year.
CSW can always file an appeal but I think next on line is Peter McCormack, according to them.

Interesting to see how the law works in the UK given that Cobra did not even attempt to put up a case when he was sued by CSW - so we don't have much info on whether the UK courts would be as knowledgeable and straightforward as their Norwegian counterparts.

This isn't just a win for Hodlonaut; this is a complete loss and utter failure for CSW.

I've only had a very quick read of the translated ruling Greg shared above, but here are a few of my favorite quotes (I have taken the liberty of amending a few grammatical errors in the translations):

So not only are Hodlonaut's tweets not unlawful, and not only does the court order CSW to pay Hodlonaut ~4 million NOK (which is around $380,000 USD), but the court is pretty clear that all the evidence points to CSW being a fraud.

its $660k of which $460k is the lawyers costs and $100k for the KMPG expert data

anyway next social drama i can see CSW play
a. pretend he made payments using false documents. and drag out another case to cause disruption trying to prove/disprove payment
b. claim CSW never said he was satoshi but the surviving member of team satoshi where all patents and ownerships are locked up in some inaccessible trust not able to release at this point. thus try to reignoite his long con
c. say he lost the defame case due to hodlonaut not being the first guy to out CSW and then start suing people from earlier debunks

...
as for calvin ayres

i think he just outted himself as a pedo

his crap story as a freelance sex traffic task force officer.. thats complete bullcrap. its obvious he fears some of CSW court trials may end up with ayres computers being seized as evidence and when they find kiddy crap on his computer he wants to have a plausible "white hat" story for why he has such crap on his computer
or if found at some illegal underage brothel he wants a reason to make it sound good as to why..

Will hodlonaut be able to use the same evidence in the UK court which he used in Norway?

If yes then surely they have to see it as it is and see the absolute lies which CSW has
engaged in?

Surely the same report which KPMG were tasked with can be called upon for "any" trial
going forward? the facts which were uncovered won't change from country to case.

Wouldn't it be so ironic if an unrelated lawsuit turns into him where the prosecutors are the government who want to lock up Ayre in jail for possessing that stuff, Epstein style?

Oops... CSW loses his main backer.

That's what Hodlonaut claimed for, but the court did not award him the full amount.

They've already said they will appeal the ruling. Can't wait for them to lose even more money and for the outcome not to change. ;)

Let's not also forget to thank Hodlonaut's lawyers, Ørjan Salvesen Haukaas and Marie Bjørk Myklebust, for delivering such a robust case and a resounding win for the whole bitcoin community.

Not a bad profit at all for Hodlonaut in this trial, and CSW could pay even more when they file an appeal.
He did have to dox himself in this process, but he proved his point once again and he represented Bitcoin community in a great way.
Meanwhile, they are strangely quiet regarding this subject on their coingeek propaganda website.
So much fun following Hodlonaut twitter account  :D
 

Looks like they are far too busy with the fact that BSV has been constantly under attack for the last several days, with multiple forks, multiple reorgs, and a single miner controlling well in excess of 51% of the hashrate and just spamming the network with empty blocks. At one point in the last 24 hours the unknown miner found 14 consecutive blocks in the space of 30 minutes. The chance of the network finding at least 14 blocks in 30 minutes at normal hashrates is 0.0003%, suggesting this malicious miner is absolutely dwarfing the hashrate of the rest of the network and could just choose to shut down the entire network by mining only empty blocks and ignoring all other blocks at any time.

That's almost as a big a failure as CSW's performance in this trial. ;)

You all seems celebrating Hodlonaut's victory !  But have got any clues who is behind Hodlonut ?

The whole  case seems to me was a great setup for Craig to win and file another  case against all the Bitcoin Developers.

Craig is Chief Scientist of NChain. Who is the Chief scientist of Blockchain ?  You might say Gavin Bell (Anderson) but is he ?  What is the position of Craig now in the Bitcoin and Blockchain Space ?

I think he is a very good actor as Faketoshi. On the interrogation he admitted that he is Faketoshi.
 

I really doubt that there is someone behind Hodlonaut's back. Mr. Faketoshi is just trying to scare the ppl who put their voice up against his claims. But also he is focusing on people with less resources and not so techy like Hodlonaut and  Peter McCormack hoping that he can make some easy wins (imagine the price for 9 lawyers in Norway!). I wonder why he didn't go after Buterin? Mr.Eth has x10 followers, and stated officially his position against faketoshi, he has done way more "damage" (lmao ... sorry) than our space cat.

Or, put another way, near enough the entire Bitcoin community has Hodlonaut's back.  And that's great.  BitcoinMoses clearly isn't on this forum to raise any valid points.  They're just here to be an irksome, antagonistic troll.  If they had worthwhile insights into anything other than how to be an annoying shit-for-brains, I'd be very surprised.  Funny how they always seem to show up with feeble attempts to sow seeds of doubt in any topic where Faketoshi comes up.   Almost as though they had some sort of agenda.   ::)

let me translate

he is the chief spokes person of many companies he and his team created, where he gets other people to code .. that is not a scientist. thats a "manager"

its about as useful as saying that dick wolf is the executive producer of thousands of tv episodes. yet if you see his day to day activities, he is never onset of any of them all the time

CSW does not have good coding skills. in all of his businesses he has had "ghost writers" he employs to develop things. heck he even employed kids to write his assignments for his degrees

it would be more apt if he titled himself a CTO (technology officer) rather than science.

CSW has a theology mindset, he believes in getting people to believe his is someone others should believe in without proof... that is again not science
...
as for who is behind hodlonaut. well there are court documents that reveal hodlonaut birth name. but we respect hodlonaut to not mention/repeat on the forum because its not important

as for hodlonaut actions.. just because there are many people before hodlonaut that called out on CSW scams does not mean their is someone behind hodlonaut puppeteering him. from what i have seen he has done his own research and came to his own conclusions and wrote things in his own mindset of his well researched opinion of CSW. as have others. this does not mean there is some puppet master agenda. this means many people have found CSW to be a fool, scammer and liar and we all independently want to inform and remind everyone not to become a cult like follower of a scammer and liar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_complex

Seems like Craig ticks all the boxes above... ::)

How come he doesn't prove he's Satoshi by spending his BTC from 2009-2010 and/or using his forum/email account from back then?

CSW had put in a claim for 11,766,507 NOK for this trial, which is a little over $1.1 million USD. Obviously though, he will recover none of that and also have to pay Hodlonaut's costs as discussed above.

Because he knows Vitalik can easily bankroll a few legal cases and wipe the floor with him. He was counting on Hodlonaut, by virtue of him being a school teacher, not having the funds to fight these cases and therefore get a quick and easy win. CSW wasn't counting on the community coming together to fund Hodlonaut's defense, which was made acutely obvious but the absolute trash and blatant forgeries CSW and his team submitted as "evidence".

Looks like we have confirmation that they've duped another wealthy billionaire with dubious morals:

https://twitter.com/agerhanssen/status/1583835506865229824

So Ayre is finally running out of money so has started pulling in his friends? Ager-Hanssen has appeared on CoinGeek interviews before, so is obviously already invested in this scam and therefore has a vested interest in funding some more of CSW's shenanigans or be left bagholding a coin going to zero which is under near constant attack.

The quotes from that Twitter thread show quite clearly he is just as out of touch and confused as the rest of the BSV cult:
Amazing logic there. By this logic, surely he'll believe me if I say I am Satoshi? I have exactly zero evidence, but apparently that doesn't matter (and actually, zero evidence is still better than the dozens of proven forgeries CSW has :P).

Cool. No one cares. Get CSW to sign a message then we can talk.

Are you talking about the one who copy/paste "Hello World!" code?


What exactly do you mean by "Blockchain"? Blockchain.com?

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I feel cringe reading this part.

Mr.🤡's ship is sinking, no matter how many "sugar daddies“ he'll try to get on board..
When can we expect the UK trial?

It is amusing watching him get annihilated on Twitter.

Here's my favorite thing he's posted: https://nitter.it/agerhanssen/status/1583923967974203393#m. Could it have been "Half" Finney all along!? :D

My understanding was it is not expected for another 12 months or so, but I cannot find a source for why I thought that.
Edit: This article (https://cryptoslate.com/hodlonaut-declares-victory-against-craig-wright-in-norwegian-defamation-case/) indeed says "late 2023" for the UK case.

I also love how he included Dorian as a 'possible identity' and not one of the other couple cryptographers that were very active in Bitcoin's starting days and would make for much better candidates.
His picture immediately shows he is completely talking out of his ass.

Wasn't the Satoshi account on that page hacked long before 2014 when that post was published? Somehow I suspect that you did not notice the publication date, but the credibility of that statement is almost zero. The same account last posted at the end of 2021 and not about anything related to Bitcoin.

It's not related with Hodlonaut Trial, but i found out csw decide to claim/attack BIP 151 and 324 this time.

https://nitter.net/Dr_CSWright/status/1584091568536899584 (https://nitter.net/Dr_CSWright/status/1584091568536899584)


You're right, it's hard to remember all past event in correct order. I just remember there's discussion which say Satoshi's P2P Foundation account compromised after Satoshi's GMX email address was compromised/re-used after it's inactive.

I think hodlonaut should involve more people like this guy in the trial.

https://nitter.it/robertauger/status/1220515399856349184

and expose the "credibility" of the Chief 🤡.

Edited:

Some more 🤡 fun, if it's real.
https://twitter.com/FractalEncrypt/status/1584152298862714880

along with calvyn ayres multiple times saying he thinks CSW is satoshi due to having spoke to CSW family

i call this comedy "proof of mom"

seems calvin only trusts CSW family lineage as proof of CSW claims.
I guess it could be, he doesnt want to say that CSW gave some documents/proof(files/forgeries) to ayres. thus doesnt want authorities seizing his devices. by saying the only 'proof' he has is verbal conversations with people

More like "Proof of Pedophile". 🤡

Anyone got a link to this nChain patent which predates BIP 324? Is it just a plagiarized copy of BIP 324 with the name and date changed via a hex editor? ;)

Surely it should be easy enough to confirm with any of these universities if he is actually enrolled with them? Not sure what any of this proves, though - anyone can enroll in as many courses as they like. But when it comes to actually completing the work? Well... https://medium.com/@paintedfrog/craig-wright-plagiarized-significant-portions-of-his-phd-thesis-and-tried-to-hide-it-80cd8f01459

Here are some more specific assertions by Mr. Wright: https://twitter.com/Dr_CSWright/status/1580909523174559745

My guess is that he's really enrolled, but since he was remote they let him send photos or something.  I've heard claims that e.g. his recent philosophy masters is bullshit (e.g. not actually granted), but it seems privacy rules are preventing people from speaking up.

Bitcoin has been making progress since 2009 till date with Satoshi Nakamoto being anonymous, so does CSW think he will make Bitcoin any better if he possibly proves himself to be Satoshi? He should just take the advice that people are giving him on his tweets, probably this one https://twitter.com/Pete_VanDyck/status/1584515110621433856?t=XJeQuvHjmpqEuh8z9BAQ0A&s=19 .

It looks like the next target of CSW is going to be Jameson Lopp. I guess that this guy doing this shitshow only to travel on others'  (Ayre's) money.
https://mobile.twitter.com/lopp/status/1585315567531364352

https://i.postimg.cc/TYF4GQjk/IMG-20221026-200733.jpg

He shouldn't "vlaim" to be an expert says the guy who forgot to change dates on his forged documents.

For those who don't remember, Craig set up a fake company named Tulip Trust, with his wife Ramona as a director. Craig "vlaimed" that this company holds his bitcoins and that he cannot prove that because it will take months for a company's courier to give him the private keys. His wife runs the company, but he cannot tell her to give him access to his coins, he has to act through an attorney who communicates with the Trust on his behalf. He also refused to reveal any communication between him and the director of the company because of "spousal privilege". Of course he also refused to reveal any communications with the attorney. Months have passed and Craig did not have any private keys because the courier did not meet the deadline.

Have you ever heard a worse story? I haven't and this dude told it to the judge under oath.

Lopp should go to court just to see Craig tell his bullshit and later quote him.

It's not uncommon for a ruling body to be this idiotic and still have the cajones to say they are the only ones capable of imposing punishment and/or reward whenever necessary. Just take for example the time when Mark Zuckerberg, a man I do not lean towards in terms of principle and belief but will use as a prime example for my statement, was stuck in a courtroom filled with senile old men and women trying to make sense of how social media works. This is just funny at this point but ultimately sad considering it's us who they are practically fighting against, after all we are all Hodlonaut.

Oh I can't wait to see this new Faketoshi doom trial and I am sure Jameson Lopp is not going to back down so easy.
Lopp is citizen of United States, so that means new trial would move again like a traveling circus with CSW as a main clown.
Does anyone knows who the heck returned and unbanned CSW twitter account, was it new boss Elon Musk, or he bribed or sued someone to unban him?  :P

It's still banned, he's just evading the ban-- not like he complies with any other rules...

I somewhat doubt Wright is going to sue lopp-- he's still got to come up with some lie he can tell his attornies to get them to file the paperwork and he'd have a really hard time.  He threatens it as a pure intimidation move.  Actually doing it would be pretty stupid.

OTOH suing former Bitcoin developers was also pretty stupid and that didn't stop him.

Send them back to the typewriters time when everything as analog LOL
Hopeless generation. They should be spending time with their grand children instead of wasting time of an important position. We are not in 80s anymore.

IMO it's a waste of time. I'd rather see him write another technical blog post[1].


You made me remember how much money and time he spend to find out who call SWAT team to his house[1]. If faketoshi going too far, i expect Lopp would pursue him.

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[1] https://blog.lopp.net/ (https://blog.lopp.net/)
[2] https://blog.lopp.net/to-swat-a-swatter/ (https://blog.lopp.net/to-swat-a-swatter/)

Will Hodlonaut be able to present the same KPMG reports in the UK case? or will he be able
to reference the findings of this recent case?


and likewise will Jameson Lopp be able to at least reference the Hodlonaut trial
findings?

I'm not sure if that is a practice, sounds like it could be from movies I saw in the past
but what is the reality I wonder....

It would be nice to imagine for both events being able to reference what happened in one
court of law that it would straight away throw doubt on CSW's claims.

Now it's possible Elon Musk might get him banned as a new twatter owner, or maybe they will join forces in new shitcoin business endeavor ;)

It's possible this is one more of his stunts, but I see Jameson Lopp is still talking with Faketoshi and talking about courts.
Oh and Lopp just asked ElonMusk to unban @geoffgolberg account, so we have first public requests coming.

https://i.imgur.com/z3WP4o2.jpg
https://nitter.lacontrevoie.fr/lopp/status/1585856027966476290#m

Don't know if you guys are following Twitter, but various people are trolling CSW spectacularly by having him call statements he doesn't realize were made by Satoshi as false, lies, ignorance, and so on. And CSW keeps falling for it.

First one: https://nitter.it/jochemin/status/1584538627727831040#m
CSW says that "Your statement means you do not understand bitcoin at all." Twitter user points out that the statement was made by Satoshi. CSW blocks the user and hides the tweet from his profile. ;D

Next one: https://nitter.it/thom_bernhard/status/1586010353372377096#m and here is a screenshot in case CSW deletes it: https://nitter.it/Tak_Horigoshi/status/1585979441981067265#m
CSW says that whoever made that statement is "a fool or a liar". Twitter user points out that the statement was made by Satoshi. Wright then denies the follow up statement, which it turns out, was also made by Satoshi. ;D

And another bonus recent tweet, here is CSW apparently completely unaware of the difference between nodes and mining pools: https://nitter.it/Dr_CSWright/status/1586083965781176320#m

Honestly, whoever is next to be served with one his stupid lawsuits could just present his Twitter account as proof that he isn't Satoshi at this point.

Oh dear, that's embarrassing and fortunate for any future court sagas. That's like creating
future liabilities.

Twitter is not a safe place for CSW, looks like he can be easily exposed as the fake he is.

Public discussion in general is not a safe place for CSW. Anywhere people can speak freely and share verifiable evidence, such as in multiple different courts in multiple different countries, on Twitter, on any social media platform, on this forum, on GitHub, in public, and so on, and CSW is easily exposed for the fraud that he is. It is only when he can carefully control the situation and the narrative, such as in private "signing" sessions in a location he chose with a laptop his team provided in the presence of a carefully selected people and performed in an specific way, can he fool anyone in to believing his charade. Whenever he has to have an unscripted interaction, such as right now on Twitter, he repeatedly shoots himself in the foot in the most basic of ways.

Hilarious retorts to Craig Wright from Snowden on twitter today. Worth looking into if you haven’t seen it yet. I also saw something else that made me laugh. Someone posted a twist on the saying, “We are all satoshi, except Craig Wright.” Instead in replay to someone who claimed to be Craig Wright they said, “We are all Craig Wright, except satoshi.”  :D ;D

Here is the Snowden exchange: https://nitter.it/Snowden/status/1587107349038252034

Arthur van Pelt has helpfully put together a bunch of CSW's fails in to a handy graphic, including the two I linked to earlier in this thread: https://nitter.it/Arthur_van_Pelt/status/1587117094130356232

And now this one is just plain hilarious: https://nitter.it/tmsbtc/status/1586336795251601409
"Bophides" is a meme, created to set up the line "Bophides/Both of these nuts". Bophides is not, and never was, a real person. CSW simply falling for a stupid internet meme would be nothing special, but his narcissism means he actually tries to lecture this Twitter user about Bophides. He states he was a warrior, not a philosopher, and that "There is a reason nobody bothers teaching his work". He has no work because he isn't real! It's a meme! If you type "Bophides" in to Google, the first result is from Urban Dictionary stating him to be a strong warrior from Ancient Greece, but if you click on it you are shown the full "Bophides nuts" joke. Did CSW literally just do a Google search, read a single sentence from the search results without even clicking on the link, and decide he was now an expert on this made up character and start lecturing people on Twitter about it!? This is embarrassing for CSW, and doubly embarrassing for anyone who honestly thinks he could possibly be Satoshi.

What a moron.

there are new developments in the ongoing saga surrounding CSW, who claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, the inventor of BTCitcoin. following court document published yesterday provides further evidence that once again calls Wright's claims into question:
https://bitcoindefense.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/2024-01-23-Schedule-of-Dr-Wrights-Further-Forgeries-COPA-v-Wright.pdf (https://bitcoindefense.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/2024-01-23-Schedule-of-Dr-Wrights-Further-Forgeries-COPA-v-Wright.pdf)

the document states that certain documents submitted by CSW contain technical anomalies.
for example, one document appears to have been created using a version of ms windows photo viewer that was released years after the alleged creation date of the document (allegedly in 2007). the metadata of some documents show signs of manipulation. there are discrepancies in the timestamps that suggest that the documents have been backdated. the use of chatgpt to create documents purporting to be from around 2007 and 2008 is another clear indication of subsequent creation and manipulation...

Surely there has to be some sort of penalty for all of these forgeries.  Courts are asking for trouble if there are no consequences for submitting fraudulent evidence.  I'm struggling to tell if he's ever submitted a document that isn't a forgery.  

Thanks for the update, cygan!

I don't see how he can submit anything that isn't forged; how would CSW even own any such evidence in the first place (due to obvious reasons)?
The only exception would be random documents that are real, but prove nothing, but then it would be pointless to submit them.

getting back to the hodlonaut case

(the UK one)
https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2024/01/26/uk-supreme-court-refuses-craig-wright-appeal/

CSW last summer was not happy with his £1('here have a lollipop, crybaby') in damages for defamation. and so wanted to appeal...
in december the courts said no

seems the court rejected CSW appeal last month and hodlonauts lawyers didnt hear about it until this week, neither did coindesk check

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as for the COPA case
CSW also released a letter pleading to settle the COPA case.. but with conditions that benefit him..
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/dr-craig-wright-issues-settlement-offer-to-copa-members-and-all-parties-in-upcoming-intellectual-property-litigation-302043611.html

 that too was rejected by those in COPA

Can't believe there are 3 good news for Bitcoin and cryptocurrency community within short time interval.


Twice? He really trying hard, which fortunately doesn't result anything.


I stopped reading faketoshi offer after this part. Saying Bitcoin Core ("BTC") is huge disrespect, which reminds me of how BCH community attack BTC in past. Using term "database" also sounds weird to me. In addition, there's no thing such as ABC Bitcoin. Faketoshi doesn't even know he actually refer to eCash (name of the cryptocurrency) where Bitcoin ABC is one of full node software for eCash.

"open commercialisation"
ding ding proof CSW is not satoshi

i too thought his settlement terms were a comedy script which declared him a proven nutjob

heck even his word of "database" instead of "ledger"
lets just use googles best top search answer to show how little he understands things

he could have learned so much in 3 seconds but decided to show he is an idiot

yesterday wired published the following article about CSW in which it is reported that a judge will soon decide whether the moronic CSW is right to claim to be the real Satoshi Nakamoto...
you can read the full article here: https://www.wired.com/story/craig-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-trial/ (https://www.wired.com/story/craig-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-trial/)

and the following tweet:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/02/03/vufdN.png
https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/1753414646378148061 (https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/1753414646378148061)

He can't do jack shit, but he can prolong this circus of lies while his scam shitcoin is getting delisted from all exchanges.
COPA still needs to prove that Craig is not Satoshi, and Hodlonaut was doing live blogging stream during the trial, and Wright continued to deny evidence provided by COPA.
https://protos.com/craig-wright-v-copa-judge-threatens-to-pull-livestream-after-hodlonaut-photo/

today was the last day of hearings in the COPA vs. CSW case
under the following link, you can read the whole process: https://twitter.com/BitMEXResearch/status/1768202295513165911 (https://twitter.com/BitMEXResearch/status/1768202295513165911)
the judge of course had the final word and said the following:

finally all the bullshit that CSW has been doing has come to an end :)

CSW, the man who claims to be Bitcoin inventor Satoshi Nakamoto, has dropped his appeal in the norwegian court case against Hodlonaut. this means that the verdict, which already went in Hodlonaut's favor in october 2022, is now sealed. the norwegian, who is supported by the Bitcoin community, made this public with this message on twitter:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/12/jn5P5.png
https://twitter.com/hodlonaut/status/1778457284806353177 (https://twitter.com/hodlonaut/status/1778457284806353177)

Yep. Good news!
Still, Hodlonaut is also sued in UK by CSW. That case too should (hopefully soon) closed/dismissed.

Plus, I think that there are still Bitcoin devs whose cases need to be closed.


All in all, it's steps in (finally!) the right direction, but it's not all over yet.

I just try to point out the probability. If you are me.

Edit: Spellchecker on guys. See if your 100%

lets not make the label of CSW 'the man who claims to be'
the copa case already has the judge saying he is not
so use "CSW the fraudster"

and it seems due to the COPA case, CSW's main sponsor(ayres) funding his legal SLAPP suits has stepped/moved away from funding further suits, so now csw is financially bleeding, and with CSW's personal funds frozen, cant keep juggling all the lawyers bills, so we should see a domino effect of cases being dropped where CSW is the instigator/claimant

We are lucky to belong in a community like this.
We can do impeccable things... together!
Congrats to hodlonaut and thanks cygan for the update.

I was late for ADA. I don't care you can have your jam.

Problem about discipline is it's uninformed.

saw an article popped up on my news feed about this earlier and am glad to see it and I can't wait for Craig Wright to drop the case in the UK he filed against Hodlonaut.

looks like Craig Wright's schemes are crumbling after the court favored against him in the COPA case.