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So many folks have tried to claim they are him. Not that I really think that he will ever make his identity known to the world, but if he does say on his deathbed or something, how would Satoshi go about doing so? IF he did want people to know who he was whenever he became ready to do it, how would he do it in a way that everyone could believe him?

From what I have observed, any person who has come forward and declared themselves Satoshi has not had sufficient proof that they are. So, if we were to discuss this, what would suffice as sufficient proof that they are in fact the real Satoshi?

On a side note, if Satoshi ever did come out and be able to prove his identity, how do you think that the world/governments would respond? Its honestly a scary thought, because there are so many people that hate crypto and bitcoin. Someone like him would surely become a target. Which is no doubt the reason he has kept his identity a secret.

It is curious though, what is he doing now? Has Satoshi ever tried to leave a message since his disappearance? Perhaps something hidden in plain sight? The biggest mystery of bitcoin, is he alive and well or was he Hal Finney and already passed? What is he like/where is he now? What does he like to do in his spare time. These things all come to mind, and I wish we had some answers. Wouldn't it be incredible if somehow he left a "final goodbye" message somewhere or like a book or something when he is ready to give it to the world. After BTC has turned a certain age or something.

I wonder if something like this will ever come about, maybe its just wishful thinking but if I created something like this for the entire world I would want people to hear my passion for its creation & also to leave some sort of closing message somewhere down the road as opposed to just peacing out at the first mention of the FBI. He is out there! Somewhere, doing something. He's got to be.

Wherever you are Satoshi, i'm sure that you're having a great time and living your best life and surely safe and secure, one would hope.

I think I am an open-minded person. I try to give a chance to all sorts of things and remain open to ideas that are probably not true. If there's an empirical proof, I'll take it. If, however, there isn't a proof (in a sense that only those who already believe it or are very keen on believing it will find it convincing), I'll disregard it.
When it comes to Satoshi, just saying "Hi, I'm Satoshi" doesn't work. But there must be ways for Satoshi to prove identity. This can be a signed message from a Bitcoin address that's really old and belongs to the earliest of days. It can also be something like an early version (dated accordingly) of the Whitepaper, or screens of chats with someone who can also confirm the authenticity of the chats about Bitcoin from very early days. I think to me it would be a mix of things that would not convince me 100%, but that would allow me to roughly accept that this person is most likely Satoshi Nakamoto.

There are many ways of which one of them is for him to sign a message with his account on the forum, but i doubted he will ever thought of coming to reveal his identity or oroof himself to be Satoshi because the bitcoin network was designed itself to be privacy conscious and that's one of the reasons for the p2p that has been effective, the mathematics he wrote odown onbthe Whitepaper could be a lie if eventually everything turns away from how it was meant by his past works, anonymity and privacy are things you can't do without idf you must truly enjoy bitcoin, in this regard, he would rather be someone you're familiar with on the forum without you knowing it's Satoshi and maintain his privacy.

Well if Satoshi ever wanted to get himself identified then he would have already done it and we would have already seen our bitcoin hero by now.

Since we do not have any answers yet or we never heard from him we can safely say that he do not want to present himself to the world.

With the time it does not matter at all because system is running just fine. The folks who claims themselves satoshi will come and go all the time. :)

I hope he will never reveal himselfe. Noface bitcoin is its huge advantage. There is no one to target - 1 less fud topic for mass media.


It looks like he is long dead. He disappeared from the forum without saying goodbye after creating the most groundbreaking thing in the economy. His last post was some client/network udpate.

how to trust its him?
1- transfers from satoshi wallets
2- signing message with his ghp key

If he made himself known there would be no question about it.

People that know him personally would vouch for him. He would be able to answer any and all questions related to the development of Bitcoin.

Most importantly, he would be able to prove ownership of certain private keys.

I think Satoshi's decision to stay anonymous was carefully thought out and was not made hastily. I don't think there's any likely situation that he will just decide to go against his early decision. Staying anonymous so far has had some benefits to him even in terms of his safety, not sure he will want to jeopardize that.

People will believe him in the following ways:
• through his personal details because there are Satoshi details people will see in the community or in the court to believe that he is the real Satoshi.
• through his bitcointalk account, people will believe him because they believe that it is only the owner of the account or his wife can have access to that particular Satoshi bitcointalk account.
His real personal details is what people that claim to be Satoshi has failed to present to public that made them to disgrace themselves to the whole world, because the real Satoshi has all the evidence to be the founder of Bitcoin , which is the personal details that will make people to believe that he is the right Satoshi the world is looking for to appreciate for his good work.

The fact is, he won't be fake like the people who say that they are Satoshi and try and steal the thunder and also try and take over the bitcoins etc, go to the court and do dramas.

I think he would be really understanding and would be able to log in and generate loads of interest in the society, improve the overall system of Bitcoins, chat with the people on the forum, I think he would also be able to claim the bitcoins in the address, he can do loads, he won't be as selfish and stupid like people who came and went again and again over the years. I am sure there would be a different aura around him

I think it would be foolhardy for him to actually show himself. A lot of people would consider him a hero and and idol worth idolizing, however there are many people out there who wish him ill. Especially when it comes to crooks like lawmakers, politicians and regulators in the governments. Everybody would one way or another disrupt his current peaceful life with unnecessary attention. Would he really want all that fame and every negative thing that comes with it?

Personally, if it were me, I would steer clear at this point. I am sure he has made enough money for himself, with a brain that big.

A peaceful happy life or a chaotic, famous and rich life where you have to watch your back whenever you go outside?

I'm not sure anything at this point would make me believe that satoshi is someone claiming to be him.  If you've managed to stay anonymous for this long, I feel there's no reason why you'd come out now.  Even if someone signed using his private keys, I would assume the keys were stolen or found by one of his heirs.  So I guess the answer to your question is, nothing.  Sure, I'd go along with consensus if the community decided presented evidence was good enough, but in the back of my mind I would think there's something fishy going on.

I feel like I can accept if he used his forum account as a proof he returned. But as others said in thread, it may be totally farce and someone may steal his account or identity so on. In the end its all about his wisdom. I think Satoshi was very unique person and if he ever returns back he should have uber awesome entrance to be believable. Can you imagine he totally exploiting codes to bring Bitcoin down? That would be my expectation of real Satoshi entrance!

To start with, Satoshi can never ever reappear. If he eventually does, know that he came to kill bitcoin and the bitcoin community wi resist him because he will have only one vote in the network. The only impact he would create is fundamental turbulence. He could use his bitcoin to manipulate the market when he moves it from one wallet to another and then he will have large number of followers and believers whether he makes the right or wrong suggestions.


You never can tell if Satoshi was knocked down by a taxi while crossing the road in his street and maybe he has been buried like an ordinary person.
It is safe to assume that Satoshi is no more, because he is no more, only the name lives forever.

He will have his own spotlight because he deserves it, and not those random people who claimed and ended up fake satoshis. There will be no questions anymore about Satoshi because he himself will clear them all. And maybe he can create more progress and development for bitcoin because he has a brilliant and intelligent mind. The mere invention of bitcoin alone is already outstanding and exceptional.

Just sign a message as others have said.

But then again, after so many years of hiding and keeping himself out of the limelight, I doubt that he will suddenly surface around and be known to the community. And this is also the main reason why they are so many who claim that they are Satoshi, because they know the man doesn't and will not made his identify be known. He will remain a mystery, so let's leave it like that.

Too many topics about Satoshi lately, do you guys know something we don't, is the 'man' about to resurface :D, all jokes aside, discussing about Satoshi's possible return in 2022 is redundant, if Satoshi knew they would later return to reveal their identity as the creator, then they would never have gone anonymous, or stayed anonymous for this long, returning now will only create drama and too many doubts if they are who they say they are. And they created a decentralized network that is working great without them, or maybe they are secretly one of the key developers, but whatever is the truth should stay unrevealed.
His account is locked by Theymos, so it can't be randomly stolen, anybody who will ever post from that account must have proven themselves to Theymos as being Satoshi.
Satoshi and no single person has control over the bitcoin network, and they can't bring bitcoin down despite being the creator.

Most at times i kept wondering why people talks about Satoshi asking about his real Identity, have you also think if Satoshi reveal himself then that would have been the end of Bitcoin since Government and all manner of Agency are wanting to see him or something like that. Sincerely speaking i love his disappearance and this was the reason for bitcoin to be in existence till date.
About knowing he is real Satoshi. He would always come with a proof that shows it was him, for instance his account here can clearly state that for those in forum here and all post might be linked to the forum to his official account. Eg, if he tweets on twitter, he might copy the link or a screenshots and update here through his btt account, then we the user here can clear understand his is real satoshi, i understand that this forum has already hits millions of users and these people can tweet and give a proof his is the real Satoshi if he chooses to reveal himself, so you don't need to worry about the real Satoshi

If Satoshi can donate even just a single bitcoin to any charity that the community voted for, with a signed message of course and the funds belonging to any of his 'known' addresses, then I'll believe. Although at this point it's irrelevant to know who the person behind Satoshi is, as bitcoin got bigger and has developed a community that thrives. Also, I don't think there's anything that the government will do anyway. Probably keep an eye out for him 24/7 and that would be a living hell for the man who evaded everyone for the last 12 yrs. But yeah, if one can prove that they are Satoshi, they would know how, and they'd do it without hesitation if they really wanted to let their secret out.

The only valid way for anyone to be proven as the real Nakamoto Satoshi is if he can move the Bitcoin that he had been storing for years into another wallet...and this is the reason why Craig Wright is always WRONG can never be the real guy we are looking for. Now, am entertaining the idea that maybe Satoshi is already gone out of this world and is already buried 6 feet below the ground...though am also hoping that this is not really true. We all want to see somebody for the emergence of one of the most elusive figures in history, right?

yes that was obvious if he showed up that will be target by multiple country, it is safe to stay in the shadow while watching the crypto is adopted. and what is the actual benefit from him if he is showed up 

The only thing convincing enough would be to provide proof of ownership of an address believed to belong to Satoshi. He can sign a message or move coins from a specific address. If he were to reveal his identity he would be under immense scrutiny. Most people would never want to attract that kind of attention so I doubt we will ever find out until maybe far into the future when his fortune is passed on to a family member.

You can see lot of topics having the same discussion and the answer again goes the same that does it matter? He has made himself out of the bitcoin due to some reasons but it's not like there is centralised control for bitcoin with him and we all know how it works in decentralised manner without him also so why are we always running behind revealing his indentity? And is it necessary to do so? We need to rise above from these things as his mystery will not be solved and we are just creating our imaginary thoughts about this whole thing.

What personal data are you talking about? Why Satoshi should have his real name? He simply cannot have his real name because he is a stickler for privacy. Besides the fact that so much time has passed, I still think that if Satoshi, being a very smart person, and having the desire to show himself one day, he could do it. And not only by signing messages from his address, he probably had a lot of evidence about which we do not yet know. 
However, revealing one's identity means moving away from the idea of Bitcoin. Remaining anonymous, Satoshi shows an example of what he originally intended.

That's what exactly it is! If Mr. Nakamoto wants to come out in public (which I don't think he will), that's how he can prove his identity. If it happens, the entire community will have no choice but to believe. That's one point Craig Wright could not address and he said in the court that he has lost the keys of Satoshi's wallet and that's why he is not able to access it. That's the main authentication for us to believe who is real Satoshi and who is not!

Interesting point and thought provoking.

I, like almost everyone would have said "move coins" from Satoshi wallets or "Sign a message"
from those wallets would do the trick but thinking about it if these two actions have not been
done by now any future actions from those wallets could be questionable.

All the times to prove the likes of CSW a fake have passed, those opportune times we were
wishing and hoping for where Satoshi would make those ground breaking actions have passed.

If it didnt happen then, its hard to see them happening in the future.

For me personally, there would need to be 2 things I would need to see.  First would be a transfer from 3-4 of their address and for these to be signed as well.  I still think it is best that the mystery of the current existence of Satoshi lives on.

This is true. And this is the only way how we can prove our identity here in crypto world since we don’t post any details here about personal information and only wallet address for our transaction. The forum signed message is also the only way to claim ownership of our account here so by this using his original wallet address will surely prove his identity.

Yes, that is true, but it does not have to be three addresses, only one address is enough. For me, if he can be able to transfer bitcoin from any of the 50 BTC reward he got from any of the blocks people knew was mined by Satoshi, or if he can be able to sign the bitcoin address he used to receive the reward, then I will believe he is Satoshi. No one can do that for now, even the well known Faketoshi can not do that.

has anyone here thought about what bitcoin would be like if satoshi were to go public and return to this world? bitcoin is known as a decentralized currency with no head and control is given to the community, this is the difference between bitcoin and alts today

bitcoin is becoming the target of many governments because of its anonymity and decentralization so the arrival of satoshi will cause bitcoin to be disturbed, i guess governments will interrogatory satoshi everything about bitcoin to change or control it. so it's better for him not to come out, it's not good for him and bitcoin, i respect his decision to remain anonymous forever

Why would Satoshi Nakamoto become a target? Did he do something illegal?
The creator of Ethereum Vitalik Buterin is a public figure and everyone in the crypto world knows who he is.
Did the crypto haters try to do something bad to Buterin? Nope. Do you think that the crypto haters will try to kill or put Buterin in jail? I don't think so.
Do you think that killing Satoshi Nakamoto (or putting him in prison) would destroy the Bitcoin Core blockchain? I don't think so.
Bitcoin Core is doing just fine without him for several years. Satoshi appearing out of nowhere and revealing his identity won't change anything at this point.

Anyone can claim the creator of bitcoin, but no one can prove Satoshi's Identity. Even I don't think his parents knew Satoshi as closely as we think today, the great work created by him is more important than his identity, so bitcoin is the most sought after by people and doesn't really care how people think about it

And also want to reverse your question, to what extent can one believe that it is Satoshi out of many who have made confessions, if he really wants to reveal his identity can anyone believe it and what evidence do you think he should have?
Being there to convince people wasn't easy and it wasn't like Satoshi wanted to do that.

Just imagine many other people who do not hate bitcoin, so bitcoin is growing very rapidly for now.
I mean like this, to link bitcoin, Satoshi and Government is no longer a problem, it's better that we no longer try to talk about it, the most important thing is that people's awareness of bitcoin has been very developed, because many people understand better and this is the best solution in investment.

The question is why did he do that.
to be famous?
to be appreciated?
or wishing for a nobel prize and other things in private.
and I honestly don't think Satoshi expected that, from what he created such a huge masterpiece with bitcoin.

No one can even guarantee where he is now, or maybe he's quite close to us on this forum.
The message he left was nothing more than the development of Bitcoin which is growing and advancing, because this is more rational than anything else.

People limit the relationship between privacy and work, because they have big dreams for change, but it seems these people are more comfortable keeping their identity a secret, compared to a nobel prize or anything for an Award.
If you want to create great things, then think about doing what Satoshi did, because of the many great works that have been created, only Satoshi is the only person who has a big heart and is not rash when it comes to identity.
So what we see, he has been living comfortably without anyone knowing about it, and just imagine if his identity was published in the media, what would happen to him and his family.

Your last sentence, is actually the answer to many of the questions you have given, if you are able to analyze and understand the sentence.
Simple and quite practical to answer questions people ask about Satoshi.

If respected people in Bitcoin community - Core devs, a few forum members, would trust that the person is Satoshi, I would trust them too. As for evidence, I think it all should come together and form a convincing picture. If someone would have access to coins that are believed to be Satoshi's, but would behave in a very different manner, I would be inclined to believe that the coins were stolen or something like that.