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Title: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: odunybiz on September 25, 2022, 10:30:09 PM
Most people go to school believing that they will get a job after schooling. In most developing country, the rate of unemployment keep increasing every year as graduate are produced every year to the labor market with a decline in rate of job opportunity. Using Nigeria as a case study, over 600,000 graduates are produced every year to the labour market with no job opportunity. This make the rate of unemployment increase every year.

https://i.ibb.co/ZJRhprv/Screenshot-20220925-233749.jpg

Due to this, most youth believe education as failed them after graduated for years without a job. Alot of graduate are into transportation and other minor stuff that are irrelevant to thier course of study to sustain their living.

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This is seen in a case where some students went back to their school to demand for a payback of all money spent during their schooling period after graduating for years without job.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2022/09/video-drama-as-lautech-graduate-visits-school-to-return-certificate-demand-refund-of-fees/amp/

My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No

Being educated means you are trainable i.e you should be able to use your acquired knowledge to creat space for yourself in the labour market even if their isn't any job opportunity. Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate.


CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Vaculin on September 25, 2022, 11:20:28 PM
Most people go to school believing that they will get a job after schooling. In most developing country, the rate of unemployment keep increasing every year as graduate are produced every year to the labor market with a decline in rate of job opportunity. Using Nigeria as a case study, over 600,000 graduates are produced every year to the labour market with no job opportunity. This make the rate of unemployment increase every year.

https://i.ibb.co/ZJRhprv/Screenshot-20220925-233749.jpg

Due to this, most youth believe education as failed them after graduated for years without a job. Alot of graduate are into transportation and other minor stuff that are irrelevant to thier course of study to sustain their living.

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This is seen in a case where some students went back to their school to demand for a payback of all money spent during their schooling period after graduating for years without job.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2022/09/video-drama-as-lautech-graduate-visits-school-to-return-certificate-demand-refund-of-fees/amp/

My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No

Being educated means you are trainable i.e you should be able to use your acquired knowledge to creat space for yourself in the labour market even if their isn't any job opportunity. Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate.


CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.
Education does not guarantee jobs, but it gives you a lot of opportunities to seize and create an edge over those uneducated and illiterate people around you. Education may not guarantee you the best job that will make your life completely changed and become progressive, but somehow the knowledge and skills you learned from schools will help you overcome the challenges in your life and create a better version of you that will make you an asset in your chosen job or career.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on September 26, 2022, 12:59:29 AM


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This is seen in a case where some students went back to their school to demand for a payback of all money spent during their schooling period after graduating for years without job.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2022/09/video-drama-as-lautech-graduate-visits-school-to-return-certificate-demand-refund-of-fees/amp/

My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No

Being educated means you are trainable i.e you should be able to use your acquired knowledge to creat space for yourself in the labour market even if their isn't any job opportunity. Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate.


CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough in the long run. Therefore, graduates should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.
I like the fact that you made your point and concluded on the subject matter because as it is, being educated doesn't quite guarantee one gets a job, mostly in a country like Nigeria where those graduating are more in number compared to those who have graduated already and still job searching.
The importance of being educated doesn't need to be emphasized in excess because it will surely be of immense benefit if one gets educated. It is the distinction between a human and a pet or wild animal in the bush. Besides, it also makes one civilized and exposed to the world, it is the precipice on which current world technological advancement is certain. Going entrepreneurial these days also require some level of education at the most, else, scammers or fraudsters might take advantage of ones ignorance to reap where they didn't sow.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: electronicash on September 26, 2022, 01:31:22 AM

back in the days where big businesses in town subsidized the kids of their employees to go to school but when big businesses are compromised by unions, it shuts down. kids suffer to listen to apathetic teachers.

government has got a lot of things to intervene including education as a priority in building a nation. not just in Nigeria but in many different countries, education has failed especially when teachers are not paid well.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Strongkored on September 26, 2022, 04:08:06 AM
My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No
Agree that education (especially at school) will not guarantee getting a job but through education young people are being prepared to live a good life when they enter the world of work, in developing countries without a certificate you will find it increasingly difficult to compete for work so education needed. What must be changed is that the education curriculum in schools does not only focus on knowledge that is not relevant to the world of work in the future but also teach skills.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: stompix on September 26, 2022, 07:00:35 AM
Due to this, most youth believe education as failed them after graduated for years without a job. Alot of graduate are into transportation and other minor stuff that are irrelevant to thier course of study to sustain their living.

Completely misleading graphic, that's why you never look at the unemployment rate alone:

So this is the unemployment level for 15-24

https://i.imgur.com/iO1oSpC.png

This might lead you to the wrong conclusion that percentage wise  twice as many young people are out of a job, while this is the employment level for the same age :
https://i.imgur.com/569mqd5.png
Where you can see that the workforce participation level hasn't dropped that much at all, and if we ignore the drop caused by covid the participation rate was actually hitting ATH records in 2019.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Solosanz on September 26, 2022, 08:15:21 AM
Due to this, most youth believe education as failed them after graduated for years without a job. Alot of graduate are into transportation and other minor stuff that are irrelevant to thier course of study to sustain their living.
Completely misleading graphic, that's why you never look at the unemployment rate alone:

Where you can see that the workforce participation level hasn't dropped that much at all, and if we ignore the drop caused by covid the participation rate was actually hitting ATH records in 2019.
Yeah, I think we can say there's many youth people are currently get a job and at the same time there's many youth still not getting any job. @OP seems like blame to the education and he hoping after graduated the whole youth will get a job. I think we're currently dealing with many millennial generation doesn't want to work if they got low salary since they think they can get better job with better payment.

Education doesn't even represent the real job because it's almost different, if your purpose to school is to get job, then it's already a wrong mindset.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: bakasabo on September 26, 2022, 08:29:02 AM
School does not guarantee anything. Schools were created to turn an individual into average, basic or default citizen with a set of basic skills and knowledge. High educations is not a guarantee of a successful life, good job either. Education is put on a flow. Students study with same old books (they might be looking fresh, but the material given there is same as it was 20-30 years ago). Try to remember any of your teachers - they dont look young or modern. They teach same what they has been taught, while the world around has gone far away in development.

An example, what can a kid get as an education, when we live in gadget and digital world, while in most countries on computer science lessons kids learn MS Word and MS Excel for two semesters. And in the university they surely study MS Access and basic MS Excel formulas as a part of bookkeeping and financial analysis for example.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Gozie51 on September 26, 2022, 09:14:09 AM
School does not guarantee anything.

It does and what it is that it guarantee? Those things are as basic as the ability to expose your knowledge. It gives you the reading and writing to help you internalize your knowledge and bring your potential out to face the challenges of the world and that is why you see many grand breaking histories, achievements and innovation in technology and digital development is not just the work of dollard but those that have excelled in education and skill acquisition. Education those not guarantee that you will get a job true, in fact whoever thinks of staying on a job all their lives is bereaved of idea but education certainly guarantee certain things and most of the things you have said on the body of your post are not achievable if not for the common basic thing as knowledge improvement guarantee by education that is not only that of class room because education or school is both formal and informal levels.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: noorman0 on September 26, 2022, 10:11:26 AM
It's good to have this notion, but not everyone thinks so especially the 90's and older generations. In developing countries, work is the most sought after career and is even a measure of success for several reasons:
- The influence of parents and the environment
- Education orientation
- Privilege

So that education is believed to be a bridge to work because that is the only thing that is considered successful.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Wexnident on September 26, 2022, 11:58:23 AM
Education naturally doesn't ensure a job. It actually factors in more than your skill, which includes your social capability as well as knowledge on knowing how to find jobs that are well paid. Education is like a single pillar that you build, but there's a lot of self-study/research that you have to do to build the other pillars. Heck you can build the education pillar part yourself given enough time imo.

I think the biggest thing education gives you is a certification that you went to one, and that's it. It sets a certain criteria of what to expect from you so companies hiring can easily see what you can and can't bring, letting them make an easy jdugement of your capabilities.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on September 26, 2022, 01:22:46 PM
Education will give us knowledge and how we can apply that knowledge is up to us. Don't blame education when you don't get a job. Try to think like this, when you invest, with the same strategy, the same chart, and the same market, there will be winners and losers. So is the error here due to the people or the market or the wrong method? The knowledge may be the same, but the operation and application will be different, thereby giving different results. Education gives us the basics, and it's our job to turn that basics into a skill and strength for us.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: naira on September 26, 2022, 02:17:07 PM
Is it really correct to conclude that education fails? maybe the essence of education is not as narrow as we think. When it comes to education, all the elements in every success for us must always be graduates who are highly educated with certificates in order to get a job. That way it will sound like a failure, but that doesn't mean education in formal schools is considered unimportant. What is the meaning of a certificate today when everyone can access knowledge for free. I will not blame the unemployment status if the government opens vacancies according to its capacity. Most of these days the government opens job vacancies with the condition that they must be certified, but look at India, a country whose education level is not even due to a high population but behind not having school certificates, many extraordinary skills. Big companies in the world will have Indians in them.

Back in essence education there will be a curriculum. Now, this is the point of adjustment that the government must pay attention to. Curriculum 4.0 towards the digitalization era. Unfortunately, there are still countries that focus on 3 aspects and the cognitive aspect is always prioritized. Meanwhile, at this time the skills that are included in the psychomotor aspect are not developed. As a result, many unemployed university graduates understand the theory but are not accompanied by qualified skills.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Hydrogen on September 26, 2022, 03:45:55 PM
Failing education is a common argument in this day and age. Another common theme is a record number of millionaires and billionaires being produced. What we lack are per capita numbers to put everything into perspective. Are there more millionaires and billionaires being produced today as a proportion of global population, than we had in previous eras. I think the authentic numbers would surprise people. The united states exhibited greater than 10% economic growth for many years during manifest destiny and the expansionist era. Which could coincide with high wealth production.

Education today is more cultural than systemic with information being so easily accessible and available.

I think the main difference separating the current era from past eras is education and knowledge used to be considered cultural artifacts of high social status as a past tense. A person who was a badass in past eras was someone who could speak 8 languages who had a specialized skillset that was difficult to obtain. Today, a badass is considered to be someone who is a thug and petty thief. Our cultural values and ideology has shifted. That's the biggest force behind any regressive movement as far as education goes.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on September 26, 2022, 04:50:02 PM
Education is completely different from country to country. And as time shows that the initial level of education, this period from 7 years to 17 gives only general education, in no case related to professions. This is followed by several more years of study, which is a six-year period where a person must obtain a profession. Do all countries act this way? And with the very initial education, it is necessary to motivate and educate children to a correct understanding of life, namely, that nothing in the world will be given for free, and in order to make your life successful, you must study diligently and adhere to all moral principles. 
A person who enters life with a higher education has a much better chance of getting a good job than someone who only went to school to pass the time. 
It has always been. For the one who tries, his chances of success are much higher, and everything that a person receives from life is the fruit of his own hands.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: qwertyup23 on September 26, 2022, 05:33:40 PM
It's good to have this notion, but not everyone thinks so especially the 90's and older generations. In developing countries, work is the most sought after career and is even a measure of success for several reasons:
- The influence of parents and the environment
- Education orientation
- Privilege

So that education is believed to be a bridge to work because that is the only thing that is considered successful.

While education does not absolutely guarantee a person of landing a job, it increases the chances of one having so. Even if there may be some people who still is underemployed despite being fully educated, the pros outweighed the cons. Education is still the best guarantee and factor in order for a person to at least have a decent livelihood and welfare to live.

Without any educational background, a person will most likely suffer in this day and age. Job opportunities and education are two (2) different fields, although they are connected. I think this is the time where the government must provide ample opportunities in order to address this problem.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: vv181 on September 26, 2022, 06:12:56 PM
There is a systematic lag behind how the education curriculum evolves with the current condition of how the world works, especially in developing countries. There is a lot of bureaucracy that needed to be done to improve a biased education system as a whole. As a matter of consequence, mostly bureaucracy became a bottleneck to improve what should be precisely done to the system.

With that in mind, school is generally a bad way to gain and comprehend knowledge, every student is different and they have their own way learning style that can't be applied by teachers that solely follow their SOP of the education guidelines. I humbly think that school is better perceived as a social institution, rather than a place for educational sources.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Furious 7 on September 26, 2022, 06:26:33 PM
School is not meant to get a job but to change people's perspective for the better. But now the stigma has changed a bit because most people's Mindset has been set that school is for better jobs because there are classifications for some companies that do make education a special classification but actually the purpose of school is not to get a job.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Fortify on September 26, 2022, 07:24:23 PM
Most people go to school believing that they will get a job after schooling. In most developing country, the rate of unemployment keep increasing every year as graduate are produced every year to the labor market with a decline in rate of job opportunity. Using Nigeria as a case study, over 600,000 graduates are produced every year to the labour market with no job opportunity. This make the rate of unemployment increase every year.

Due to this, most youth believe education as failed them after graduated for years without a job. Alot of graduate are into transportation and other minor stuff that are irrelevant to thier course of study to sustain their living.

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This is seen in a case where some students went back to their school to demand for a payback of all money spent during their schooling period after graduating for years without job.


My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No

Being educated means you are trainable i.e you should be able to use your acquired knowledge to creat space for yourself in the labour market even if their isn't any job opportunity. Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate.

CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.

It feels a bit like it is not necessarily education but more about history and geography than anything else. If a society is so full of corruption along with high degrees of absolute poverty, it requires a totally monumental effort to elevate it to the next stage. China has been able to achieve it somewhat, but the first couple decades were undoubtedly rough for the workers in the factories. I'm not sure that Nigeria even has the same level of natural resources and the climate actually works against the country in many ways, it is hard to be as productive in searing heat. Education is certainly important but you do need a lot more infrastructure and services to make it useful in application.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: freedomgo on September 26, 2022, 07:53:10 PM
My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No
Agree that education (especially at school) will not guarantee getting a job but through education young people are being prepared to live a good life when they enter the world of work, in developing countries without a certificate you will find it increasingly difficult to compete for work so education needed. What must be changed is that the education curriculum in schools does not only focus on knowledge that is not relevant to the world of work in the future but also teach skills.
True. Students have been more observed these days that they are more focused on gaining knowledge when in fact skills are more important. That is why a lot of educated government officials have become wise and brilliant that they end up creating wide corruption that they greatly benefited while leaving the people suffering. However, Education is very essential as it could offer a successful life in the future but I don’t see it a guarantee of getting jobs not unless you exerted extra efforts on it.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: romero121 on September 26, 2022, 08:01:40 PM
What the education provides and what the real world needs is completely different. What we learnt need to be executed through some means. When we don't get opportunity, what we learnt goes useless. Somehow we're in a situation to find an opportunity or make things of our own.

In my country job opportunities are available, but the students coming out every year doesn't meet the requirements that the job provider expect. So, along with the education it is a must to know how hiring is done and keep ourselves prepared to the job provider's requirement.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: barbara44 on September 26, 2022, 09:14:59 PM
I think it's not the education that have failed but it's the government of those countries as government can also be responsible for creating opportunities for their people. Before people go to school and choose their course, it would be better to check if which jobs are available on their country (the one with lots of vacancies) so that they won't worry once they graduate but they can work immediately.

There are also schools who guarantee a job for their students and those jobs can sometimes be on abroad. Isn't this grate? Students can worry less and won't have a hard time finding for work vacancies because their schools are helping them to get one.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: carlfebz2 on September 26, 2022, 09:33:20 PM
School is not meant to get a job but to change people's perspective for the better. But now the stigma has changed a bit because most people's Mindset has been set that school is for better jobs because there are classifications for some companies that do make education a special classification but actually the purpose of school is not to get a job.
Most people have this wrong mindset concerning school,  that school makes one to be successful in life by getting the best Job. I think this mindset work before but not any longer. The world as change that you don't need to be university graduate to be successful. The main purpose of school is to make one think well.
Its still a wrong mindset because having a degree would always been recommendable rather than on having no school knowledge or having no degree which would really be more hard to get some job.

Unless if you do able to make yourself find one online but speaking about qualifications and other skills and credentials then you would really be still needing off these things because employers cant

really just accept someone who arent that competent.There might be some exemption on some type of job because there are ones who could really handle out even just with
that general knowledge.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Sanitough on September 26, 2022, 09:35:26 PM
We are creating a society where everyone is educated but there is no value of intellect.. because everyone carry same degrees and we are saying they have equal intellect. Thus many posts are being filled by no intellectuals. Creating scope of curruption and thus failures of system.. not everyone who can read book can be an Einstein. We need to identify intellect and groom it to achieve successful innovation.
Sad to say, not all educated professionals have the intelligence and skills that mostly companies in need of. The reason why some companies do not progress or some government officials do not create big and positive changes when they sit in their positions because they focus on corruption that made them become a failure on the eyes of the people.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: dark1234 on September 26, 2022, 09:44:00 PM
Education does not guarantee someone gets a job. Many successful people have low educational backgrounds. A person's success depends on the effort and view of the future and how he tries.
Education is only to provide a way for people to be educated, teach people to be wiser and smarter to deal with increasingly sophisticated technological developments so that people are not outdated.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Russlenat on September 26, 2022, 09:46:41 PM
It's good to have this notion, but not everyone thinks so especially the 90's and older generations. In developing countries, work is the most sought after career and is even a measure of success for several reasons:
- The influence of parents and the environment
- Education orientation
- Privilege

So that education is believed to be a bridge to work because that is the only thing that is considered successful.
Education is considered our first successful achievement before getting our own dream job. However, with newly graduates that are not equipped with skills but only pure knowledge, they will surely find it hard to land a good job since the company owners would want skillful workers rather than just being only knowledgeable. But even so, those educated and knowledgeable people have still brighter future compared to poor and illiterate ones.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Pumared on September 27, 2022, 01:01:54 AM
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CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.

In most countries, the education model is focused on memorization. In other words, critical thinking or even a market-oriented specialization is not addressed. In some places this is already changing, but I believe that this model will last for many years.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Davian144 on September 27, 2022, 02:14:26 AM
In most countries, the education model is focused on memorization. In other words, critical thinking or even a market-oriented specialization is not addressed. In some places this is already changing, but I believe that this model will last for many years.
In addition to the old model like that which will last for years, I think there will also be a new model that is applied to learning or a certain level of education by following the times. Because if you only rely on old methods or old learning models, then there will be no new improvement in education if there is no special adjustment to the times.
As in the example of market-oriented specialization, which is actually really needed by everyone in order to support good economics for everyone.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: noorman0 on September 27, 2022, 06:29:31 AM
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But even so, those educated and knowledgeable people have still brighter future compared to poor and illiterate ones.

But this thought should be removed for the sake of equal rights, especially for companies that consider education as the first requirement of workers. In fact, there are many non-academic knowledge people with more experience and some achieving success their way.
Honestly, I prefer the freelancer way of hiring because experience is a priority request.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: LogitechMouse on September 27, 2022, 07:31:08 AM
CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.
Regarding the "School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job." part, it depends. There are some rare instances where people are picking a student by a company and then put him/her into a high standard school and then after graduation, they will hire the graduated student to their company. In that scenario, the job already is guaranteed but it is a rare scenario and I know some of the graduates where they don't have a job especially during pandemic.

Education never fails. It's just that, teachers are giving information and knowledge that will not shape the student in the future. I mean there are some schools who are teaching their students some knowledge but, in the end, they will not use these knowledges when they will apply for a job. We are living near the school, and I often see what these teachers are teaching and TBH, it's the basic ones that they don't need in the future. The current education curriculum in our school is already outdated and it must be updated to a point where a student increases its chance of getting a job after getting graduated. Well, it's their plan at first place that's why they added 2 school years in the Secondary level, but it failed miserably.

Utilizing skills really is the key in getting a job. Finding your passion and making it use it to earn money is a big thing after graduation. I know some people who really is knowledgeable, but they don't have the skills that will help them find a job and I've seen some of my classmates as well who aren't that intelligent but skillful and they are the ones who has a stable job right now.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: inthelongrun on September 27, 2022, 07:35:17 AM
In life, there are no guarantees. It's like you play dice in a casino and you picked the 90% win rate probability. So is it a guarantee that you can win? Of course not. The same with education, it cannot guarantee jobs that people are longing for but educated people are still favorites to get the job rather than those not educated at all.

I do not understand what is OP looking for. Do people need to stop going to school because education isn't guaranteed to land jobs?

Sometimes overpopulation and lack of decent jobs and a poor economy are the reason behind unemployment. I knew some Nigerians had great jobs in other countries. The same in my country, there are a lot of our people working abroad for greener pastures.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: SaveOurSea on September 27, 2022, 07:56:29 AM
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CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.

In most countries, the education model is focused on memorization. In other words, critical thinking or even a market-oriented specialization is not addressed. In some places this is already changing, but I believe that this model will last for many years.
Actually once in a while the educational method by way of memorization is not a problem and that's also good,
but it would be better if it focused on critical thinking and taught at an early age I think it will be good for children's development,
maybe in order to be accountable it is better to do research which model or method is good


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: bakasabo on September 27, 2022, 08:05:56 AM
School does not guarantee anything.

It does and what it is that it guarantee? Those things are as basic as the ability to expose your knowledge. It gives you the reading and writing to help you internalize your knowledge and bring your potential out to face the challenges of the world

We all know that education differs from country to country, but in my country kids in first grade must already know how count, substract, read and write. They obtain these skills in kindergarten and "obligatory preparation to school". When I was attempting school, we learned that all that during first and second grades. We have 9-12 year school education. And I cant imagine what they gonna learn during all that time, when minimum basics they get before school, and the rest can be taught at home or by educational videos. I see education in my country as a failure, as kids waste 2-5 years there.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Hyphen(-) on September 27, 2022, 09:47:28 AM
Being educated means you are trainable i.e you should be able to use your acquired knowledge to creat space for yourself in the labour market even if their isn't any job opportunity. Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate.
Most graduates waste some of the opportunities that come their way because many graduates have one or two opportunities to learn some very important skills that may be their path to success after school, but they relent and keep saying the government can support them by providing them with jobs after school, which is not true; the government cannot afford to provide a job for all of the thousands of graduates each year.

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CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.
This is very important advice; many successful people are self-employed and end up helping the government to reduce the rate of unemployed graduates; they achieve this by simply learning some important skills such as web design, programming, and so on, and most of them work from the comfort of their own homes.
The Bitcointalk forum is another source of income through signature campaigns; if someone is very active in the forum, learning and helping others, they will rank up and get involved in some signature campaigns, which is also a very reliable source of income.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: samcrypto on September 27, 2022, 10:47:53 AM
CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.
Education is nothing if you are not using it, or if you are just using it to bad things. There's a lot of educated individual and yet they choose to be on that situation and I guess this is beyond the control of the government already because seriously, there's a lot of available job in my country but you can see people not applying for a job and they choose to be jobless. Education doesn't end with the certificate or any diploma, you should continue improving yourself because the only way to survive is to keep updated and that can only achieve by learning everyday.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Smack That Ace on September 27, 2022, 10:48:48 AM
School is not meant to get a job but to change people's perspective for the better. But now the stigma has changed a bit because most people's Mindset has been set that school is for better jobs because there are classifications for some companies that do make education a special classification but actually the purpose of school is not to get a job.
Most people have this wrong mindset concerning school,  that school makes one to be successful in life by getting the best Job. I think this mindset work before but not any longer. The world as change that you don't need to be university graduate to be successful. The main purpose of school is to make one think well.

Those thoughts come from our forefathers like our grandparents or our parents, because most of the successful and powerful people in the old days were mostly highly educated people and they came out from famous schools. Today, everything has changed, it can be said that we do not need to graduate or get a certificate to get a job. But education is still very, very necessary, education is an essential foundation, without education we cannot achieve any achievements in later life.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: hyudien on September 27, 2022, 11:46:32 AM
Those thoughts come from our forefathers like our grandparents or our parents, because most of the successful and powerful people in the old days were mostly highly educated people and they came out from famous schools. Today, everything has changed, it can be said that we do not need to graduate or get a certificate to get a job. But education is still very, very necessary, education is an essential foundation, without education we cannot achieve any achievements in later life.
You are right, we cannot blame parents when educating their children to be successful in school. Because now the situation is no longer the same. If we compare the past success of the parents, it is truly amazing and their upbringing is right where they push their children to be much better than them. Because parents often finish their education up to college. Economic factors are still being colonized and most of them finished elementary school and did not go on to college. In the past, there was no technology as sophisticated as this in finding information.

While technology is now easily accessible, knowledge can be searched using keywords on Google and you just need to be willing to learn. Meanwhile, their ancestors had to be willing to walk thousands of kilometers just to get an education.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: ultrloa on September 27, 2022, 01:04:15 PM
School is not meant to get a job but to change people's perspective for the better. But now the stigma has changed a bit because most people's Mindset has been set that school is for better jobs because there are classifications for some companies that do make education a special classification but actually the purpose of school is not to get a job.
Most people have this wrong mindset concerning school,  that school makes one to be successful in life by getting the best Job. I think this mindset work before but not any longer. The world as change that you don't need to be university graduate to be successful. The main purpose of school is to make one think well.

Those thoughts come from our forefathers like our grandparents or our parents, because most of the successful and powerful people in the old days were mostly highly educated people and they came out from famous schools. Today, everything has changed, it can be said that we do not need to graduate or get a certificate to get a job. But education is still very, very necessary, education is an essential foundation, without education we cannot achieve any achievements in later life.

Yeah eventhough it doesn't guarantee us immediate jobs but still we really need this because we can learn more things aside from getting job, it's up for the person on how he can use what he learn from schools either he use his diploma to became modern slave or he use what he learn to create something useful ideas which can create jobs.

But seriously educational system especially on third world countries need to be taken care off since the current mindset of young adults is to graduate and get job then in reality they will fall in line with others who are seeking jobs to that's why maybe this is the reason why the  number of unemployed person increase.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: YOSHIE on September 27, 2022, 02:35:49 PM
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job.
This is very clear, generally we all know in that case, education is only a means of knowledge that must be owned by every student while in education, the certificate is only a symbol of graduation from the school, it does not mean that the certificate is a guarantee of work.

I have a friend who didn't study and he doesn't have a certificate like most other people have, but he is now a successful and rich person, thanks to the knowledge and experience he has developed in the crypto world, especially trading and investment, so here education can be judged only as a symbol, the expertise we have is actually the essence of true success.

Many people think after education and have a certificate they can get a job, it's actually a dead end, but there are those who think education is a formality for the world but they still believe in the knowledge they learn, now we see many uneducated users succeed in crypto, for example: Uneducated people join Cryptocurrency? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4408228.960)


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: jrrsparkles on September 27, 2022, 03:29:21 PM
Schools failed in my opinion because they didn't even teach the students to differentiate what is knowledge and education which are not entirely same and education is not only enough to get job. Going to school and getting a degree never guaranteed a job but upto 80s and 90s the ratio of people getting graduated are very less so all people get their job but today the scenario is not same.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Hydrogen on September 27, 2022, 03:44:29 PM
In the united states, its culturally glorified to be a low income thug. Drug dealers and pimps are put on pedestals.

Our cultural values are directly opposed to education, learning and knowledge. That's what prevents us from wanting to learn and know things.

If people want education to thrive. They have to put people like Elon Musk on a pedestal. Build a culture that respects intelligence, science and knowledge.

Throwing money at education will never have a legitimate effect. As long as our culture opposes basic practices like reading and learning.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: suzanne5223 on September 27, 2022, 03:54:24 PM
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run.
Education doesn't give skills. What education give is knowledge and awareness. Skills are something your self develops or gets through your personal sense and essential thinking and understanding. This is the reason why people like Kiyosaki believe education to be a scam. 

Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.
Yes, graduates need to make use of their skills instead of thinking of getting a barely available job.



Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Iroh on September 27, 2022, 04:24:53 PM
Generally education has not failed anyone and it’s always on the plus side to have an education. Education is supposed to open one’s mind; to enlighten him on things he never knew and it’s always good to learn new things. What one does with the things learnt is left to the individual.
The reason education seem to have failed in some so called developing countries is simply the lack of funding and oversight by the relevant authorities. The education system in these areas lack the proper facilities and equipment needed to properly impact knowledge on young minds.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Dunamisx on September 27, 2022, 04:38:02 PM
Schools failed in my opinion because they didn't even teach the students to differentiate what is knowledge and education which are not entirely same and education is not only enough to get job. Going to school and getting a degree never guaranteed a job but upto 80s and 90s the ratio of people getting graduated are very less so all people get their job but today the scenario is not same.

In this situation not only the school that failed but the parents fails as well, why should they hold they government or school been responsible for the educational progress of their wards when they have the first role to play there as parents, some parents were do lazy that they never bother to check their children's school bag, books not to talk of taking them on little extra morals, they have failed right from home, we've got children performing well within the locale they were being brought up and have gone upwards to an international level in education just because of their outstanding performance right from the start, it's an abomination to be born poor and die poor, parents should encourage their children, no destiny is limited to a particular location except if vision is being lacked.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: globalpain on September 27, 2022, 05:22:29 PM
School is not meant to get a job but to change people's perspective for the better. But now the stigma has changed a bit because most people's Mindset has been set that school is for better jobs because there are classifications for some companies that do make education a special classification but actually the purpose of school is not to get a job.
Most people have this wrong mindset concerning school,  that school makes one to be successful in life by getting the best Job. I think this mindset work before but not any longer. The world as change that you don't need to be university graduate to be successful. The main purpose of school is to make one think well.

Those thoughts come from our forefathers like our grandparents or our parents, because most of the successful and powerful people in the old days were mostly highly educated people and they came out from famous schools. Today, everything has changed, it can be said that we do not need to graduate or get a certificate to get a job. But education is still very, very necessary, education is an essential foundation, without education we cannot achieve any achievements in later life.
I agree with you that education remains important and everyone has the right to education,
education does not guarantee success but at least with education it is a very important foundation,
everyone has their own point of view about education and that's okay


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Furious 7 on September 27, 2022, 05:23:07 PM
School is not meant to get a job but to change people's perspective for the better. But now the stigma has changed a bit because most people's Mindset has been set that school is for better jobs because there are classifications for some companies that do make education a special classification but actually the purpose of school is not to get a job.
Most people have this wrong mindset concerning school,  that school makes one to be successful in life by getting the best Job. I think this mindset work before but not any longer. The world as change that you don't need to be university graduate to be successful. The main purpose of school is to make one think well.
This has to be changed because this mindset seems to be passed down from generation to generation which makes the stigma that school is a place to get a good job which is always the main focus so that the essence of school as a place to seek knowledge seems to be slowly getting rid of.
Actually, in this case, schools with decent jobs cannot be separated because at present some companies clearly accept their employees based on the education they provide but this should not be used as one of the goals of educated people to focus on school only for work.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Flexystar on September 27, 2022, 06:16:56 PM
I am very much agreeing to this post actually. Say anything, but this is really true fact about education these days. There is also increased surge of overseas jobs. For example many asian countries has increased trend of taking education in their own country but when it comes to good job most of them will always go to developed countries like USA and Europe. They get their job very easily because they are ready to work with minimum wage which is always better bet for them as compared to being jobless in their own country.
This is effect of highly educated people in the country (so higher supply of workmanship) however very low vacancies in the industries (lower demand). This formula always stays other way round. It's sad reality of the today's world and we can't help it but create jobs, businesses and increase works. 


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: justdimin on September 27, 2022, 07:06:31 PM
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But even so, those educated and knowledgeable people have still brighter future compared to poor and illiterate ones.
But this thought should be removed for the sake of equal rights, especially for companies that consider education as the first requirement of workers. In fact, there are many non-academic knowledge people with more experience and some achieving success their way.
Honestly, I prefer the freelancer way of hiring because experience is a priority request.
Education is indirect contributor to that fact but you are %100 right. We should be looking at the past work of someone and hire that person based on their previous work, but obviously if we are talking about a new hire, someone who is 20-25 age range, then the person who studied the same thing in college would be a lot better than the person who just did it themselves, doesn't stop anyone though, if you worked hard on your craft during the same period while the college student just partied, then you would become better for sure.

So, I agree that it should be experience and proof of past work when we are hiring someone instead of their diploma, but that diploma "may" contribute to being better, not always but generally.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: stompix on September 28, 2022, 06:55:41 AM
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But even so, those educated and knowledgeable people have still brighter future compared to poor and illiterate ones.

But this thought should be removed for the sake of equal rights, especially for companies that consider education as the first requirement of workers. In fact, there are many non-academic knowledge people with more experience and some achieving success their way.

Seriously? So I should let a guy who is an expert in cleaning cars with vacuum clears but didn't have one hour of chemistry operate the valves in a multi-stage regulator for a LN2 tank?  Because he knows his way with pressure...
Equal rights? Nobody is equal when it comes to education, that's why even in kindergarten one will point out the correct color of the teddybears in 2 seconds while others will just dig their noses for buggers, the moment the 5th grade is in sight you can clearly see that definitely not everyone is equal. Some can learn, some can't and some don't want to.

Education is indirect contributor to that fact but you are %100 right. We should be looking at the past work of someone and hire that person based on their previous work, but obviously if we are talking about a new hire, someone who is 20-25 age range, then the person who studied the same thing in college would be a lot better than the person who just did it themselves, doesn't stop anyone though, if you worked hard on your craft during the same period while the college student just partied, then you would become better for sure.

That works only for a few jobs good paid jobs that don't require education and smoothly are physical intensive and will get you retire ar 40s, you don't need the education to wash dishes nor to dive a truck, but for others good luck having experience before education in othes, I can picture how this works with a guy becoming a surgeon without ever going to school.

And btw, since I saw already a few mentioning things like dipping out of school or university
Zuckerberg dropped out of Harvard, not from Bunga Bunga technical school of banana peeling.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: BRINIRHA on September 28, 2022, 07:48:36 AM
In some countries and especially in my own country. I see that the education curriculum in schools has not changed much from a few years ago. but every year technology and science is increasing a lot. The development of increasingly sophisticated technology makes industries produce with sophisticated machines as well. only in medical schools that I see the curriculum continues to be updated or improved and added and adapted to increasingly sophisticated medical technology. I hope that schools in other majors can always update the knowledge curriculum so that when students graduate from school they are familiar with the technology that has been used in today's world of work.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Die_empty on September 28, 2022, 12:58:35 PM
Most people go to school believing that they will get a job after schooling. In most developing country, the rate of unemployment keep increasing every year as graduate are produced every year to the labor market with a decline in rate of job opportunity. Using Nigeria as a case study, over 600,000 graduates are produced every year to the labour market with no job opportunity. This make the rate of unemployment increase every year.

In Africa, education is really failing to achieve its objective of developing the mind of people and empowering them to contribute positively to their society. If nothing is done to the educational sector in these developing nations, the sector would totally collapse. Most of these nations have brilliant students that would be outstanding if they are exposed to the right information using the correct channels and tools. Some of the reasons for this are

1. Government attitude towards the educational sector: The educational sector of most of these nations is highly underfunded. They lack the right infrastructures and teachers are highly underpaid.

2. Corruption: The children of politicians mainly school in some of the best schools abroad funded by stolen funds from government coffers. Most funds budgeted for education are diverted to private accounts owned by these corrupt politicians. Due to nepotism and tribalism, unqualified teachers are employed to teach in schools, thereby producing half-baked graduates. Some lecturers are also very corrupt, they collect bribes from students to give them unmerited grades.

3. Societal beliefs: Society places more emphasis on certificates rather than skills and expertise. This has made people that even have no business going to the university forcefully enroll. This has led to the production of educated illiterates. Most people in these universities would have been sound artisans and entrepreneurs.    

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Due to this, most youth believe education as failed them after graduated for years without a job. Alot of graduate are into transportation and other minor stuff that are irrelevant to thier course of study to sustain their living.

It is not education that has failed but the individual and government. Education is an avenue that opens the mind of a learner and gives him the ability to identify and create opportunities even when there are no available employment opportunities. The government in developing nations have also failed to provide employment opportunities. They prefer to sell raw materials to other countries instead of refining these materials and selling the finished products which would increase employment opportunities. Unfavorable government policies have also scared most investors from these developing nations.

Transportation and other casual jobs are profit-making ventures in my country. Most transporters earn a far higher income than most government workers. The vulcanizer close to my house earns more than me that is gainfully employed. These jobs can serve as a source of income for other bigger dreams of some university graduates. Hence, these jobs shouldn't be overlooked.    



Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: lumbanrang on September 28, 2022, 02:49:07 PM
Indeed, education does not guarantee employment, but a good education will make a person more competitive and have a greater chance of getting a better job. And we also cannot equate the quality of education in developing and developed countries, of course it will be different. The reason why education in developing countries seems to be failing is because most developing countries don't have a solid foundation in their education system, so they produce less attractive human resources for companies. Therefore, most people from developing countries try to study abroad in order to get a better education to be accepted in global companies.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Zaguru12 on September 28, 2022, 04:06:48 PM
Education is completely different from country to country. And as time shows that the initial level of education, this period from 7 years to 17 gives only general education, in no case related to professions. This is followed by several more years of study, which is a six-year period where a person must obtain a profession. Do all countries act this way? And with the very initial education, it is necessary to motivate and educate children to a correct understanding of life, namely, that nothing in the world will be given for free, and in order to make your life successful, you must study diligently and adhere to all moral principles. 
A person who enters life with a higher education has a much better chance of getting a good job than someone who only went to school to pass the time. 
It has always been. For the one who tries, his chances of success are much higher, and everything that a person receives from life is the fruit of his own hands.
You have definitely pointed out the virtue of education. People have today rubbish education because of lack of job but in all honesty education isn't just about acquisition of job but morals are also instilled into the educated ones and this (education) has help a great lot in curtailment of crimes carried out by youth in the society.

People also don't focus in getting good grades or graduating with flying colours anymore because of the trading stuff that you must know someone before getting a job. Oh yeah it is right but imagine the situation of helping someone that actually graduated with good grades and the near bottom fellows. I think the former will be easy to get help.

But another thing that affects people that attend schools they feel there certificate will grant them jobs when it is not coming they just sit back without looking for alternatives to cater for there needs. There are many skill acquisitions that one could get par school at least to stay on ones toe before regular jobs could come. There are notable successful business men today that have build up there businesses after fail to acquire jobs.

My point everyday is education is never a scam


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: TheGreatPython on September 29, 2022, 05:41:22 AM
Education is indirect contributor to that fact but you are %100 right. We should be looking at the past work of someone and hire that person based on their previous work, but obviously if we are talking about a new hire, someone who is 20-25 age range, then the person who studied the same thing in college would be a lot better than the person who just did it themselves, doesn't stop anyone though, if you worked hard on your craft during the same period while the college student just partied, then you would become better for sure.

That works only for a few jobs good paid jobs that don't require education and smoothly are physical intensive and will get you retire ar 40s, you don't need the education to wash dishes nor to dive a truck, but for others good luck having experience before education in othes, I can picture how this works with a guy becoming a surgeon without ever going to school.

And btw, since I saw already a few mentioning things like dipping out of school or university
Zuckerberg dropped out of Harvard, not from Bunga Bunga technical school of banana peeling.
That is probably not what they mean, but the path they want to open does lead to that in the long run as well. Education is obviously important, internship is even more important because the real reason for internship is to learn how people do the job, not to actually do it at first, to watch what others do and how they do it, so that's where the experience comes from, and by the end of it actually start doing it as well with the supervision of other people, that's the important thing.

So, education+internship definitely beats experience in my book, and how would you know someone have experience at first when you hire, would you hire a 18 year old out of high school? Or a 24 year old out of college and internship?


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: stompix on September 29, 2022, 10:23:59 AM
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So, education+internship definitely beats experience in my book, and how would you know someone have experience at first when you hire, would you hire a 18 year old out of high school? Or a 24 year old out of college and internship?
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It depends a lot on what I'm hiring them for!
Am I looking for a cashier, for a helper in construction for a guy handling flyers, I wouldn't give a damn about their age or education or experience, if I'm looking for a graphical designer or other such things that require skills  I can do a test right there, the one how manages to do it best gets hired. But if I'm looking for a team leader and manager that requires supervising a few dozen people there is no way an 18 yo right out of school will be able to make the list, first that no matter how capable he is the whole team will simply feel uneasy being ordered around by someone right from the highschool bench and in some case less educated than them.
So it's definitely a case-by-case situation.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: davis196 on September 29, 2022, 10:34:35 AM
Nothing is guaranteed in this life. Only the communist regimes are trying to "guarantee" anything to the people (and they fail in the end).
The university/college system is getting more expensive and kinda obsolete.
You definitely need a diploma if you are going to build a career as an engineer, a lawyer or a doctor. You don't need a degree/diploma for most of the professions in the private sector. Having actual practice in a certain job and social skills is more important than a degree or diploma.
The fourth industrial revolution(or the first digital revolution) is making the current educational system more or less useless. Reforms are needed in the government-owned education systems around the world.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 29, 2022, 12:28:49 PM
People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
I think everyone has the right to achieve success, even if they don't have a high formal education because success depends on how much someone can try and take advantage of what is around him. Maybe it is necessary to add another key to success, namely the desire to change the situation for the better. Continuous efforts can certainly help him achieve that success. Positive attitudes and thoughts will also support a person to achieve success so that he can get more ideas that can help him to succeed.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Obito on September 29, 2022, 01:09:07 PM
It did fail, developing countries are rife with corruption and with corrupt officials in power, they know how threatening a critically thinking population is so they purposely bankrupt or constrict the budget in their education sector so they can keep producing drones instead of one that actively questions the injustice surrounding them, we can't rely on the government involved bodies to help us in improving our education system, each individual needs to take part in making sure we don't create a dystopian nightmare.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: kryptqnick on September 29, 2022, 01:26:12 PM
stompix pointed out that the difference in employability isn't as high as the initial chart makes it seem and doesn't account for several factors, but even if talking generally about education and employability, I think it's important to consider which jobs people take and which countries are explored. I remember that in the US, there's strong data suggesting the dependence of employability and salary on the college a person graduated from. In my country, higher education (without strict specifications) is simply a requirement for many jobs. Not because of the particular knowledge you obtained but because obtaining higher education you, presumably, acquired skills to self-organize, learn a lot of things, pull through stressful situations, act when you are not 100% what the right way of doing things is etc. And while even the best higher education of my country doesn't guarantee you'll find a job you'll enjoy, it does give you an upper hand over those who don't have higher education and increases your chances of getting employed for doing an intellectual job.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Leviathan.007 on September 29, 2022, 02:53:52 PM
According to what I understand you think education systems failed just in some countries. Still, if you ask me I would say the education systems failed in most of the cases or even in all the nations because if I want to just talk about my branch and my job, which is backend development, I learned nothing from school and university however I was studying in one of the best universities on my country. But after graduation, I had basically not enough knowledge and skill to start my career so I had to start leaning from other sources and then started with internship, most of people have a same situation and I guess there is the same ponlem in most of the countries about broken education system.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Sterbens on September 29, 2022, 03:31:58 PM
People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
An underlying error is how they assume that school means work. Even though things like that are the wrong mindset, at school we are only taught to gain knowledge, hone skills and other abilities. I think it is a form of laziness, because the world of work is not like the world of school. Success has its own path and it can be said that school is one way to achieve it.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Wawa2013 on September 29, 2022, 08:28:04 PM
People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
An underlying error is how they assume that school means work. Even though things like that are the wrong mindset, at school we are only taught to gain knowledge, hone skills and other abilities. I think it is a form of laziness, because the world of work is not like the world of school. Success has its path and it can be said that school is one way to achieve it.

We can't rely on our success in education alone because there are still things that are not being taught in school that only our perseverance and enthusiasm can provide. Schools can only teach us the basic knowledge of our chosen field but skills can be acquired and developed through one's eagerness to improve. We can't blame everything on our education system because reaching success still relies on our hands.

That's why many companies prioritize experienced people over people who just graduated from college. Because like you said many things are not
taught in school, so when someone enters the world of work, they still have to learn from scratch. So based on my life experience, in school only
taught how to live disciplined, how to socialize well, expand relationships, and how to face the competition. In conclusion, school only learns
the basic things of life, but work skills must be obtained from how we study and do our jobs well. So every time we work for the first time we often
get training first. It is true that success does not only depend on the education we get in school, but how we fight hard to survive. That's why
smart people usually lose to hard working people.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Raflesia on September 29, 2022, 08:38:50 PM
Nothing is guaranteed in this life. Only the communist regimes are trying to "guarantee" anything to the people (and they fail in the end).
The university/college system is getting more expensive and kinda obsolete.
You definitely need a diploma if you are going to build a career as an engineer, a lawyer or a doctor. You don't need a degree/diploma for most of the professions in the private sector. Having actual practice in a certain job and social skills is more important than a degree or diploma.
The fourth industrial revolution(or the first digital revolution) is making the current educational system more or less useless. Reforms are needed in the government-owned education systems around the world.
Now it seems that we are being pushed for such a classification.
Currently, there are many rules that require classification to become someone who has a degree as you mentioned clearly requires education and like it or not we have to follow rules like this because this is a must now.
It is difficult to change this back to how it was before because education has become a benchmark and for someone who does not have competence in education, no matter how good they are, they will not be considered too much because they do not have a certificate for classification.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: marcous on September 29, 2022, 08:39:51 PM
We can't rely on our success in education alone because there are still things that are not being taught in school that only our perseverance and enthusiasm can provide. Schools can only teach us the basic knowledge of our chosen field but skills can be acquired and developed through one's eagerness to improve. We can't blame everything on our education system because reaching success still relies on our hands.
someone can increase their curiosity in this modern era by learning freely, I mean, they can learn with smart internet methods. there are many other ways to learn in between free time from school activities if one has the will to learn. there are so many online schools that are easy to understand if you have the intention to learn. I am amazed by education in this modern era because during the time of covid, the world of education seemed to be closed and students could learn through online schools.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Oceat on September 29, 2022, 11:59:04 PM
People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
Maybe having some positive thoughts would help but I think you are missing some key factor here why these people are successful. From what I know these people have connections, skills, charisma that could change the outcome of their success if applied right. And yes, mostly millionaire and billionaire doesn't have a good education because most schools these days aren't teaching what the students should learn.

To OP, do you know what are the causes of this problem where having an education is not enough to get a job?


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Republikcoin.com on September 30, 2022, 01:33:55 AM
We can't rely on our success in education alone because there are still things that are not being taught in school that only our perseverance and enthusiasm can provide. Schools can only teach us the basic knowledge of our chosen field but skills can be acquired and developed through one's eagerness to improve. We can't blame everything on our education system because reaching success still relies on our hands.
I really agree with the expression you gave, because in fact it is true that every success and success is always achieved through the hands of each with clear goals and desires.
It doesn't exist at all in any school because at school they only do learning before doing practice in their respective lives. And I think what you say is very appropriate to describe a success that is not determined by any school if someone is still very lazy to make it happen.

someone can increase their curiosity in this modern era by learning freely, I mean, they can learn with smart internet methods. there are many other ways to learn in between free time from school activities if one has the will to learn. there are so many online schools that are easy to understand if you have the intention to learn. I am amazed by education in this modern era because during the time of covid, the world of education seemed to be closed and students could learn through online schools.
Learning is to achieve the goal of success and success in life so it can obviously be done by anyone who has the desire to continue to gain any knowledge more with anything that can really help him in life. But it will be very useless if someone who has gained more knowledge does not practice it in his own life in order to achieve the successful goal he wants.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: budi691 on September 30, 2022, 02:17:09 AM
education is important for every individual human being on this earth, and in developing countries when going to school education expects when graduating from high school or college hoping to get a job, but what happens when an economics graduate who is supposed to work in the field economy, but working as a mechanic in a factory, that is what often happens in developing countries, in my opinion the failure is not the education but the education system which is not in line with the progress of the times


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Pumared on September 30, 2022, 03:15:27 AM
HAving a degree is good but learning a skill along side is more better.
Education gives you job but skill makes you excel at the workplace. If you are skilled you are an employee first choice.

I agree, critical knowledge is good, it helps you to see the society around you. However, technical knowledge is something more selfish, all the rewards of that knowledge will be only for you.

So a balance would be ideal, but in my view technical knowledge will always be the best, because you will only evolve, whether as a person or professional, earning money.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: bakasabo on September 30, 2022, 07:08:31 AM
education is important for every individual human being on this earth, and in developing countries when going to school education expects when graduating from high school or college hoping to get a job, but what happens when an economics graduate who is supposed to work in the field economy, but working as a mechanic in a factory, that is what often happens in developing countries, in my opinion the failure is not the education but the education system which is not in line with the progress of the times

If a financial specialist has to work as a mechanic in a factory, that means the failure is in economic situation in whole country, but not in education system. He has chosen being a mechanic instead of using his financial knowledge, because the mechanic job is paid more, or there was low demand of financial specialists and high demand of mechanic workers.

Nowadays no one wants to work with hand and get dirty. Everyone wants to sit in the office in a white shirt, drink coffee and tap buttons. Because mechanic job is less prestigious than office work. That is why we have an army of white collars and mechanics that charge hundreds for simple job.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: dataispower on September 30, 2022, 07:40:37 AM
Education can't fail because it's the brain behind everything we invent today. Some countries does not know what to do in specific time, in maintaining the system of education and that should be the reason sone people who is from uncivilized country think that education is not important again. Unemployment is establish by bad governance in any country, in some civilized countries a tax or internal generated revenue is being controlled by educationist, but some countries illiterate control taxation of country. So to regards education and a graduate in a country it's the function of government. So don't have in mind that education has failed.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Taskford on September 30, 2022, 07:47:30 AM
Education can't fail because it's the brain behind everything we invent today. Some countries does not know what to do in specific time, in maintaining the system of education and that should be the reason sone people who is from uncivilized country think that education is not important again. Unemployment is establish by bad governance in any country, in some civilized countries a tax or internal generated revenue is being controlled by educationist, but some countries illiterate control taxation of country. So to regards education and a graduate in a country it's the function of government. So don't have in mind that education has failed.

Education can fail if the government didn't pay to much attention on this and give only small budget to develop schools and anything that can help students also with upcoming professional. If there's crisis toward employment well this is another problem to them so its really good to put a politician who have vision for growth and put some priorities on education and creating job to its people since this is so important on their economy.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: dataispower on September 30, 2022, 09:17:19 AM
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Education can fail if the government didn't pay to much attention on this and give only small budget to develop schools and anything that can help students also with upcoming professional. If there's crisis toward employment well this is another problem to them so its really good to put a politician who have vision for growth and put some priorities on education and creating job to its people since this is so important on their economy.
You and I know that government does not jokes with educational system and they pay much attention in education than any other sectors, any government who's agenda is not to rehabilitate educational foundation in any nation is a dead government, and that's why government care for education but doesn't care for graduates, why people is castigating educational systems is due to lack of employment after graduation in some of the countries. A well organized country make an adequate provisions of employment for newly graduating students to limit crime in the nation.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: ningrum on September 30, 2022, 09:39:32 AM
Education can't fail because it's the brain behind everything we invent today. Some countries does not know what to do in specific time, in maintaining the system of education and that should be the reason sone people who is from uncivilized country think that education is not important again. Unemployment is establish by bad governance in any country, in some civilized countries a tax or internal generated revenue is being controlled by educationist, but some countries illiterate control taxation of country. So to regards education and a graduate in a country it's the function of government. So don't have in mind that education has failed.

Education can fail if the government didn't pay to much attention on this and give only small budget to develop schools and anything that can help students also with upcoming professional. If there's crisis toward employment well this is another problem to them so its really good to put a politician who have vision for growth and put some priorities on education and creating job to its people since this is so important on their economy.
It is true that without the support of the government, education will not develop either.
all must work together in realizing a great education and that takes time too, of course,
the government must provide more budget for more advanced education and must be accompanied by the right policies


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: blue_hurricanger on September 30, 2022, 09:41:20 AM
Education is completely different from country to country. And as time shows that the initial level of education, this period from 7 years to 17 gives only general education, in no case related to professions. This is followed by several more years of study, which is a six-year period where a person must obtain a profession. Do all countries act this way? And with the very initial education, it is necessary to motivate and educate children to a correct understanding of life, namely, that nothing in the world will be given for free, and in order to make your life successful, you must study diligently and adhere to all moral principles. 
A person who enters life with a higher education has a much better chance of getting a good job than someone who only went to school to pass the time. 
It has always been. For the one who tries, his chances of success are much higher, and everything that a person receives from life is the fruit of his own hands.
You have definitely pointed out the virtue of education. People have today rubbish education because of lack of job but in all honesty education isn't just about acquisition of job but morals are also instilled into the educated ones and this (education) has help a great lot in curtailment of crimes carried out by youth in the society.

People also don't focus in getting good grades or graduating with flying colours anymore because of the trading stuff that you must know someone before getting a job. Oh yeah it is right but imagine the situation of helping someone that actually graduated with good grades and the near bottom fellows. I think the former will be easy to get help.

But another thing that affects people that attend schools they feel there certificate will grant them jobs when it is not coming they just sit back without looking for alternatives to cater for there needs. There are many skill acquisitions that one could get par school at least to stay on ones toe before regular jobs could come. There are notable successful business men today that have build up there businesses after fail to acquire jobs.

My point everyday is education is never a scam
You have a kind heart, believing in education is a means to being good no matter if it earns your an income or not. It was very noble but the reality is much harder than that. I can understand why someone may regret their choice of career or higher education. It was whatever the time you've spent give you something out of it. Some look for a nice job, an income, or a long ahead career,... Some are content with pursuing things like art study or even more abstract fields that may not be giving them the means to earn money right away. Some thought their time was wasted because their studies aren't applicable to any jobs out there or were not enough to meet employer/HR's requirements.

It means a lot of people will have a different take on it. I understand your point but if someone said their education is a scam or a waste, I think you can't dismiss it by saying all education is good. Human life is short, time is spent and wasted on many things and people want to get the best out of it cause they may have burdens on their shoulders. On how they have to find a means to support their family or even just themself.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: AicecreaME on September 30, 2022, 12:55:11 PM
Your good grades and academic achievements will only matter inside of your school, because mostly your job will requires another set of skills which you will learn while working. Also, your ideal job when you were studying will never be your first job but something you're not expecting because you don't have a choice. Other people chose not to be an employee because of low salary, however it requires high standards of employees, pretty ironic.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Rockstarguy on September 30, 2022, 03:25:57 PM

You and I know that government does not jokes with educational system and they pay much attention in education than any other sectors, any government who's agenda is not to rehabilitate educational foundation in any nation is a dead government, and that's why government care for education but doesn't care for graduates, why people is castigating educational systems is due to lack of employment after graduation in some of the countries. A well organized country make an adequate provisions of employment for newly graduating students to limit crime in the nation.

You know what you have said about government doesn't joke with education doesn't happen in every country.  Their are some countries that education is one of their serious agenda which they pump in money to maintain it very well.  While in some countries government don't put much into education whereby government pays lecturer low amount of income, schools lack infrastructure and equipment.  Countries where government don't put much in education hardly create jobs for graduates that are coming out, that is why a graduate would say school is scam. Government that have concerns for education always create opportunities for graduates that are coming out.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: dataispower on September 30, 2022, 06:40:34 PM
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You know what you have said about government doesn't joke with education doesn't happen in every country.  Their are some countries that education is one of their serious agenda which they pump in money to maintain it very well.  While in some countries government don't put much into education whereby government pays lecturer low amount of income,
No country can pay lecturers a garbage worth, because teachers and lecturer are foundational structure of any country, so therefore government values educational sector in any countries. Some countries do take adequate measure to ensure that they have put education as one of the priority budget of her country. No government who is will to make salary scale of their educational teacher to be low. Except such country dont know the value of education. I will disagree with your clause that stipulate that some of the government pays their lecturer low salary. Just conduct a research of that.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Issa56 on October 01, 2022, 08:16:05 AM
Education those not guaranty a Job in my country anymore, gone are those days when their are jobs waiting for you even before graduating, you have different choices and you will have to select the one you want, but now graduates don't even care about the job they get now and it's still difficult to secure even one, i think thats among the reason why crime rate is increasing in the country. Now in  my country if you don't know any influencial person then their is no job for you, I just hope things will change later in the future. If you are a student in my country I believe the best thing you should do now is to learn a entrepreneur right in school so that after graduating you can have something doing and don't depend on any government to come and employ you.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: theskillzdatklls on October 01, 2022, 09:29:29 AM
Education has been getting more leveled in the modern era than ever before. There's so many resources on the internet and people have had greater access to the internet than ever before.

Khan Academy is one of the original resources that is great. I use them all the time.

https://www.khanacademy.org/
https://odysee.com/@KhanAcademy:5

I'd argue that if people can do well on these programs, there's no need for failing public institutions and a person will be capable enough to make something of themselves in the real world.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Pujangga on October 01, 2022, 01:30:49 PM
Education that is not in accordance with the habits of a nation will certainly fail, many countries force education that is often different from the basic needs of the population, for example is economic welfare, if the economy is not improved then education will not be optimal.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: erep on October 01, 2022, 02:08:19 PM
Many developing countries imitate exactly the education systems of developed countries, of course this is a mistake because not all developing countries can imitate what developed countries have achieved, and many things can distinguish the education of developed and developing countries but the most important factor is a positive mental or culture for want to change so that it will become a developed country.
The education system must develop but not necessarily adopt the education system of developed countries, I agree with the word “adjustment” because most education systems should be based on the level of ability that can be learned because each country has different characteristics and cultures.

However, regarding employment status, there is no guarantee that high achievers in college have decent jobs in the government sector, so there is no hope of getting a government job position and we have to change the mindset of relying on the ability to work in the private sector or freelancers, we know that platform developers start-up does not prioritize academic status but ability and hard work.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Markinzo on October 01, 2022, 06:30:45 PM
Most people go to school believing that they will get a job after schooling. In most developing country, the rate of unemployment keep increasing every year as graduate are produced every year to the labor market with a decline in rate of job opportunity. Using Nigeria as a case study, over 600,000 graduates are produced every year to the labour market with no job opportunity. This make the rate of unemployment increase every year.

https://i.ibb.co/ZJRhprv/Screenshot-20220925-233749.jpg

Due to this, most youth believe education as failed them after graduated for years without a job. Alot of graduate are into transportation and other minor stuff that are irrelevant to thier course of study to sustain their living.

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This is seen in a case where some students went back to their school to demand for a payback of all money spent during their schooling period after graduating for years without job.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2022/09/video-drama-as-lautech-graduate-visits-school-to-return-certificate-demand-refund-of-fees/amp/

My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No

Being educated means you are trainable i.e you should be able to use your acquired knowledge to creat space for yourself in the labour market even if their isn't any job opportunity. Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate.


CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.
One problem with the education system in the developing countries is that they still cling onto what I'll call the photocopy system of education left with them by their colonial Masters and have failed to review for an education system that fits in their sociocultural and environmental background , one that is congruent with their milieu and at same time reconcile with contemporary patterns of education.

All I see about the third world nation's pattern of education is just theories upon theories with little or no practicals included to the study.
You can't be teaching a computer engineering student with just theories only and them compare him with another that's given much practicals on computer engineering and a few theories.
It's not possible .


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Sterbens on October 01, 2022, 07:02:10 PM
We can't rely on our success in education alone because there are still things that are not being taught in school that only our perseverance and enthusiasm can provide. Schools can only teach us the basic knowledge of our chosen field but skills can be acquired and developed through one's eagerness to improve. We can't blame everything on our education system because reaching success still relies on our hands.
True, if school means success, then no one will be materially deprived. I say that education is important but in another sense it is not the meaning of success. While success has its own path as I said before.
Willingness is also very influential on a person's success, we cannot be successful if we are just lazy. We need to develop our own talents and skills, to know our true potential.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: South Park on October 01, 2022, 07:04:35 PM
Many developing countries imitate exactly the education systems of developed countries, of course this is a mistake because not all developing countries can imitate what developed countries have achieved, and many things can distinguish the education of developed and developing countries but the most important factor is a positive mental or culture for want to change so that it will become a developed country.
The education system must develop but not necessarily adopt the education system of developed countries, I agree with the word “adjustment” because most education systems should be based on the level of ability that can be learned because each country has different characteristics and cultures.

However, regarding employment status, there is no guarantee that high achievers in college have decent jobs in the government sector, so there is no hope of getting a government job position and we have to change the mindset of relying on the ability to work in the private sector or freelancers, we know that platform developers start-up does not prioritize academic status but ability and hard work.
At least to me the greatest issue when it comes to college education is that what you are taught at school in many cases has almost nothing to do with the jobs you can possibly get, this is something employers have been complaining for a long time and yet the colleges refuse to adjust what they teach, so it is no wonder that many of those employers do not care at all about your credentials as long as you can do the job they want you to do.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: KingsDen on October 01, 2022, 08:56:41 PM
What is being taught in some of the tertiary institutions is a big question??

Some of the developing countries do not have a syllabus or curriculum which peddles down to solving their demostic problems. They operate with inherited curriculums which might be solving problems in Western countries.
These inherited curriculum are not being edited to fit the present needs.

And that is why the tertiary institutions of today keep producing graduates of yesterday while the problems of today need solution from tomorrow  - JFK. Things doesn't just add up and it is nice to believe the education system has collapsed in some developing countries.
Learn skills and digital skills and live fine, go get degree if you want to be medical doc, lawyer, accountant etc.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Viscore on October 01, 2022, 09:20:07 PM
People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
Education does not guarantee life’s future success, but having good education in your previous years will help you easier to find decent jobs that gives good compensation. However, in cases that educated people do not succeed, because they tend to become lazy and never take the opportunities and chances that they have gained through having formal education. That way, success will be very hard to achieve.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: lalabotax on October 01, 2022, 09:47:20 PM
My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No

Being educated means you are trainable i.e you should be able to use your acquired knowledge to creat space for yourself in the labour market even if their isn't any job opportunity. Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate.
Of course, no guarantee if someone expects to get a job from job vacancies, especially civil/government employees.
But education makes someone having a bigger chance to get a job. He can have 2 options, applying for a job or creating his own job. Without education, it is difficult to create own job, and the chance to get a job from job vacancies is too small since it mostly requires an educated person. It is true that education makes someone to have the proper skills or abilities.



Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: marcous on October 01, 2022, 09:51:29 PM
Education those not guaranty a Job in my country anymore, gone are those days when their are jobs waiting for you even before graduating, you have different choices and you will have to select the one you want, but now graduates don't even care about the job they get now and it's still difficult to secure even one, i think thats among the reason why crime rate is increasing in the country. Now in  my country if you don't know any influencial person then their is no job for you, I just hope things will change later in the future. If you are a student in my country I believe the best thing you should do now is to learn a entrepreneur right in school so that after graduating you can have something doing and don't depend on any government to come and employ you.
it seems that the acceptance rate of prospective civil servants in your country is very low considering what you said. maybe from what you say is true where a student if he wants to get a job immediately after completing his education then he must really choose the right major for his next career. Actually, in this context the world of education is advancing from year to year, but because of the large number of students who complete education at once, when applying for jobs in the government, they have to really compete with thousands of people. which sometimes makes a person lose the opportunity to work in the government.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Shasha80 on October 01, 2022, 10:45:46 PM
People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
Education does not guarantee life’s future success, but having good education in your previous years will help you easier to find decent jobs that gives good compensation. However, in cases that educated people do not succeed, because they tend to become lazy and never take the opportunities and chances that they have gained through having formal education. That way, success will be very hard to achieve.

That's why we still have to work hard and start from the bottom to be able to successfully get our dream job and become successful. It's true that
it doesn't mean we have a good education, then automatically it's easy to get a job and eventually become successful. Sometimes when
someone graduates from university, they immediately think they can get a job easily, and immediately earn a large income. The fact is in my country
a lot of people have higher education, and graduated from university but didn't find a job for a long time.

It's sometimes because they don't want to start work from a low position and low salary first, because whatever we get at school and university
sometimes does not guarantee we can work well. Sometimes when you first start working for your company, it's like starting from scratch to learn
how to do your job. The conclusion is that we must not stop learning, because there are many important things that we can learn in this world.
So for successful people, they usually always learn new things and want to start from something small, then slowly become successful people.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Issa56 on October 02, 2022, 10:28:33 PM
And because of that, applying for a job is now a competition and employers will pick those who are from a known school and with higher grades as part of the selection. This means those who are not from a good school will become jobless and less opportunities to get a job. That gives no courage, especially from poor people not to go to school knowing that their chances are very slim and they are just preferred working even just got below the standard rate as this is the only chance they've got rather that nothing.
Their was a time when employers always choose graduates from best schools and best grades, but I think things are now worst in my country, even if you graduate from the best school with the best grade you won't still secure a job, before you can secure a job in my country now, you have to know a influential person that can help you work that out. Their are lot's of graduates now with very good results but they can't still secure any job, good grade those not guaranty you a job, if you need a job, you have to know a influential person, if you don't know anybody then you will be jobless. The best thing to do now is to acquire a skill right when you are in school, even if you are in the best school with a good grade.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: blockman on October 02, 2022, 10:35:58 PM
The purpose of education is to give the basic learning of writing and reading to all its citizens. This further being taken into different levels and people make themselves strong in different sectors. What I see is different, education hasn't failed but the opportunity creation have decreased. This is why we don't have much of job opportunities. This can be achieved through the diversification of economy than getting accumulated within the hands of few rich people.
It's true that opportunities lately have been limited and that's why there's an increasing rate of unemployment. But this problem has been there for so long.
And for those unemployed people to cope up is to improve themselves, learn something else like skills or being into a business so instead of them looking for jobs, they're the ones that shall generate more opportunities.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: bakasabo on October 03, 2022, 02:11:40 PM
Failure education will certainly make it difficult for the country to improve the welfare and prosperity of its citizens, and most countries that fail are not serious to provide better education and budget, and the main enemy is corruption because it has become commonplace that poverty is maintained for political facilities.

If a people show bad results during education, then the country's financial position would be bad. If people have bad grades at school, they will get low paid jobs. If person failed at studying, then he will never be rich. Is that what you mean? But that is absurd. There are a lot of example when people without basic education, higher education or with local university diploma achieved great results and are millionaires.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Kimonoe on October 03, 2022, 02:50:11 PM
Failure education will certainly make it difficult for the country to improve the welfare and prosperity of its citizens, and most countries that fail are not serious to provide better education and budget, and the main enemy is corruption because it has become commonplace that poverty is maintained for political facilities.

If a people show bad results during education, then the country's financial position would be bad. If people have bad grades at school, they will get low paid jobs. If person failed at studying, then he will never be rich. Is that what you mean? But that is absurd. There are a lot of example when people without basic education, higher education or with local university diploma achieved great results and are millionaires.
especially for now, where expertise is prioritized and gets a large salary, regardless of diploma and educational background. just like trading, which requires expertise not educational strata, many of them are self-taught to get financial freedom, but I think a higher education is still important considering the insights gained from formal education can make provision for social life


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Fara Chan on October 03, 2022, 04:13:17 PM
Most people go to school believing that they will get a job after schooling. In most developing country, the rate of unemployment keep increasing every year as graduate are produced every year to the labor market with a decline in rate of job opportunity. Using Nigeria as a case study, over 600,000 graduates are produced every year to the labour market with no job opportunity. This make the rate of unemployment increase every year.
This is a wrong understanding, education does not guarantee someone in finding a job, but actually education is the first step for someone to understand knowledge, and because education people are led to be better prepared in living real life.


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CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.
The actual function of education is exactly what you conclude, knowledge and skills will be shaped by formal education which we often call school, while employment is largely determined by a person's skills in making choices and being able to take advantage of existing opportunities.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Furious 7 on October 03, 2022, 05:47:06 PM
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CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.
The actual function of education is exactly what you conclude, knowledge and skills will be shaped by formal education which we often call school, while employment is largely determined by a person's skills in making choices and being able to take advantage of existing opportunities.
It also seems like it's still fifty-fifty because for now, except for part-time work for office work and so on, it's clear that education is the main factor, not education, but education certificates.
I don't know what other areas are like, but I've worked for several companies and the first thing asked was a certificate of education and that is one of our supports to determine our strata.
Regardless of how skills are possessed, without any correlation with people who have strengths and education certificates are not owned, things will not go well.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: jostorres on October 03, 2022, 07:00:21 PM
Education can fail if the government didn't pay to much attention on this and give only small budget to develop schools and anything that can help students also with upcoming professional. If there's crisis toward employment well this is another problem to them so its really good to put a politician who have vision for growth and put some priorities on education and creating job to its people since this is so important on their economy.
Governments are aware that if you educate people very well, and I mean like from all parts of life, not just business related future employee mindset but actually educating people on life and what they will face as well, then we are going to have citizens who will ask questions and no political party ever wants that. They want citizens who would wake up, go to work, come home, watch netflix, sleep and repeat that without too much questions asked. This isn't about left or right, this isn't about west nations vs east nations, this is ALL world and ALL parties in the entire world. That's why we have problems in the education for sure, and will never be fixed.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Vinaa77 on October 03, 2022, 10:11:39 PM
My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No

Being educated means you are trainable i.e you should be able to use your acquired knowledge to creat space for yourself in the labour market even if their isn't any job opportunity. Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate.

Why do people with an educational background have a harder time getting a job than people without an educational background? Because those who have an educational background will choose a decent job and according to the level of education they get.

Meanwhile, those who do not have an educational background, will do anything as long as they can make money. That is, the two views have different orientations, one has the feasibility of a job, and the other is money orientation. Education is not wrong, but what is wrong is our perception of education.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Finestream on October 03, 2022, 11:43:19 PM
People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
Whether you achieved good education or not, that won’t determine your future. You can be as successful like those professionals if you always work with dedication, hardwork and positivity. A lot of uneducated people nowadays have turned into millionaires, because they never settle for less and they always come out from their comfort zones. And they easily don’t give up and always strive hard so they can push through with their dreams and aspirations in life. That way, they turned into successful individuals without having good education from the start.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Pumared on October 04, 2022, 12:49:15 AM
People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
Whether you achieved good education or not, that won’t determine your future. You can be as successful like those professionals if you always work with dedication, hardwork and positivity. A lot of uneducated people nowadays have turned into millionaires, because they never settle for less and they always come out from their comfort zones. And they easily don’t give up and always strive hard so they can push through with their dreams and aspirations in life. That way, they turned into successful individuals without having good education from the start.

An example is elon musk itself. If I'm not mistaken, he already said that he doesn't have very advanced training, but his employees do. In the end, in some cases, education can help, but if you can make money in another way, that's fine too.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: bakasabo on October 04, 2022, 07:24:49 AM
but I think a higher education is still important considering the insights gained from formal education can make provision for social life

Important, but not a must. And in general that depends on a profession you aim to get. For example if you want to be a mechanic, you dont have to have MBA. A combination of experience, education and goal is what matters.

In my or neighbor countries, it was popular once to send kids after school to study in Ireland or Great Britain. Most parents though their kids will get a more valuable education there, but kids used that opportunity to settle there and dont cared much about diplomas. Because working in a factory there, they could earn more than working on a top position in a huge company...


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: rahmad2nd on October 04, 2022, 08:44:49 AM
My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No

Being educated means you are trainable i.e you should be able to use your acquired knowledge to creat space for yourself in the labour market even if their isn't any job opportunity. Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate.

Educated makes you more advanced than uneducated, educated makes you focused with the knowledge and knowledge you have.  thus, an educated person has a greater opportunity than an uneducated person in the labor market.

CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.

A bachelor's degree or school certificate does not guarantee easy employment.
The gap or mismatch between graduate competition and the needs of the world of work and industry is one of the main problems facing the world of education in developing countries.
The low skill of university graduates is the impact of the low quality of education in several developing countries. the difficulty of university graduates getting a job can be seen from the educated unemployment rate from several developing countries.

Therefore, graduates do not only rely on diplomas, but also must have good competence and work skills.
if this is owned, the graduates have the opportunity to get a more decent job. graduates must complete their abilities with work competencies, so they can easily determine jobs that match their talents, interests and desires.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Inspiron14 on October 04, 2022, 09:48:49 AM
People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
Whether you achieved good education or not, that won’t determine your future. You can be as successful like those professionals if you always work with dedication, hardwork and positivity. A lot of uneducated people nowadays have turned into millionaires, because they never settle for less and they always come out from their comfort zones. And they easily don’t give up and always strive hard so they can push through with their dreams and aspirations in life. That way, they turned into successful individuals without having good education from the start.

An example is elon musk itself. If I'm not mistaken, he already said that he doesn't have very advanced training, but his employees do. In the end, in some cases, education can help, but if you can make money in another way, that's fine too.
Making money in other ways of course requires knowledge too so it's not that easy,
other than that what I want to say is education covers everything from knowledge, skills and more,
What is clear is my point of view that education remains the most important thing


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: DrBeer on October 04, 2022, 07:03:40 PM
It reminds me a little of the situation in my country in the 90s, when there was a demand for accountants (entrepreneurship and private business began to develop fully), and they began to be trained in huge quantities in all educational institutions / courses, etc.
As a result, the salaries of accountants in the market fell, a huge number of unemployed "valuable employees" appeared ... and the training system worked and produced new accountants.

Most likely - educational institutions do not quite understand the real consumption of your market or the economy is not in the best condition, or both. Conclusion - something needs to be changed :)


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Shasha80 on October 05, 2022, 05:32:09 AM


That's why we still have to work hard and start from the bottom to be able to successfully get our dream job and become successful. It's true that
it doesn't mean we have a good education, then automatically it's easy to get a job and eventually become successful. Sometimes when
someone graduates from university, they immediately think they can get a job easily, and immediately earn a large income. The fact is in my country
a lot of people have higher education, and graduated from university but didn't find a job for a long time.

It's sometimes because they don't want to start work from a low position and low salary first, because whatever we get at school and university
sometimes does not guarantee we can work well. Sometimes when you first start working for your company, it's like starting from scratch to learn
how to do your job. The conclusion is that we must not stop learning, because there are many important things that we can learn in this world.
So for successful people, they usually always learn new things and want to start from something small, then slowly become successful people.
and on the top of it - we have to work hard to make our dream come true
I believe that honesty is a best policy and that is not common in ordinary person so if you find an honest worker - dont loose them

We do have to fight for our dreams to come true, even though at first it looks difficult and even impossible to realize. But hard work will bring us
closer to making our dreams come true, depending on how much we struggle to make our dreams come true. Most importantly never give up if
we experience failure, because sometimes it takes several failures before finally our dreams come true. Regarding honesty, it is something
we must have, in order to achieve our dreams in the right way. Unfortunately today we are very difficult to find honest people, because in this
world there are so many smart people, but lack of honest people. So sometimes people who have higher education, are not necessarily honest people.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: bakasabo on October 05, 2022, 07:55:02 AM
It reminds me a little of the situation in my country in the 90s, when there was a demand for accountants (entrepreneurship and private business began to develop fully), and they began to be trained in huge quantities in all educational institutions / courses, etc.
As a result, the salaries of accountants in the market fell, a huge number of unemployed "valuable employees" appeared ... and the training system worked and produced new accountants.

Most likely - educational institutions do not quite understand the real consumption of your market or the economy is not in the best condition, or both. Conclusion - something needs to be changed :)

Or the problem, as usually, is in the head of people and parents. According to their vision, it is more prestige if your child will be an accountant or financier (that was popular in my country in 2000s), then a plumber or someone whos profession involves having dirty hands (mechanic, construction builder and etc).

And now we have overabundance of accountants, and lack of good plumbers for example. A plumber now charge 50-100 EUR for screwing one screw to install water tap and connect two water hoses with central water system (10min work), while an average bookkeeper earn 100-200 EUR per month doing freelance job as a remote accountant in small company.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Fara Chan on October 06, 2022, 04:06:49 AM
With our current era now, here in my country you need to at least have a degree in being a cashier in grocery, I can say that businesses here has a high standards but the salary here is not good enough, especially we have inflations. And I admit, our education system here is broken, we just need to graduate just because it is needed even though we don't even understand what we school is teaching us. That's why many student in here graduated and has a job not aligned to their courses.
Educational standards will determine work in the office, but beyond that education is only a place to learn, but in my opinion education does not guarantee someone to work.
What do you mean: the education system is broken because the work is not in accordance with the courses.
Cases like this, because someone no longer places knowledge in the real dimension, they perceive education as a place to find work and are more individual.

It also seems like it's still fifty-fifty because for now, except for part-time work for office work and so on, it's clear that education is the main factor, not education, but education certificates.
I don't know what other areas are like, but I've worked for several companies and the first thing asked was a certificate of education and that is one of our supports to determine our strata.
Regardless of how skills are possessed, without any correlation with people who have strengths and education certificates are not owned, things will not go well.
For developing countries, a diploma is needed to apply for a job in an office, but in developed countries, skills play a very important role in determining where a person works.
However, the real function of education is not only about jobs and diplomas.
More precisely, more skills are needed and a diploma is only part of the administrative completeness to work.
Developed countries and developing countries, the function of education and the need for a diploma may have different meanings in the category of work.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Xampeuu on October 06, 2022, 06:55:40 AM
It reminds me a little of the situation in my country in the 90s, when there was a demand for accountants (entrepreneurship and private business began to develop fully), and they began to be trained in huge quantities in all educational institutions / courses, etc.
As a result, the salaries of accountants in the market fell, a huge number of unemployed "valuable employees" appeared ... and the training system worked and produced new accountants.

Most likely - educational institutions do not quite understand the real consumption of your market or the economy is not in the best condition, or both. Conclusion - something needs to be changed :)

Or the problem, as usually, is in the head of people and parents. According to their vision, it is more prestige if your child will be an accountant or financier (that was popular in my country in 2000s), then a plumber or someone whos profession involves having dirty hands (mechanic, construction builder and etc).

And now we have overabundance of accountants, and lack of good plumbers for example. A plumber now charge 50-100 EUR for screwing one screw to install water tap and connect two water hoses with central water system (10min work), while an average bookkeeper earn 100-200 EUR per month doing freelance job as a remote accountant in small company.
From this picture, we must be able to read the opportunities in the future so that we can survive to earn income. it seems that this is a common occurrence, where when there is a trend there will be many people who join the trend until they finally experience a saturation point because the supply is abundant and not directly proportional to the demand in the market, most people will be proud of following the trend, while they do not know when trend ends, until finally become unemployed


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Davian144 on October 06, 2022, 07:52:58 AM
Educational standards will determine work in the office, but beyond that education is only a place to learn, but in my opinion education does not guarantee someone to work.
What do you mean: the education system is broken because the work is not in accordance with the courses.
Cases like this, because someone no longer places knowledge in the real dimension, they perceive education as a place to find work and are more individual.

The meaning of education itself is to learn all the basic knowledge to serve as a guide in his life and it can clearly be brought into the environment to find work that suits each one. Because a person must have certain skills towards what he really likes in his life, so that someone can make the things he likes as a job to produce because a hobby that is always occupied and can be a source of income for each individual is a very pleasant job.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: posi on October 06, 2022, 09:26:14 AM
It reminds me a little of the situation in my country in the 90s, when there was a demand for accountants (entrepreneurship and private business began to develop fully), and they began to be trained in huge quantities in all educational institutions / courses, etc.
As a result, the salaries of accountants in the market fell, a huge number of unemployed "valuable employees" appeared ... and the training system worked and produced new accountants.

Most likely - educational institutions do not quite understand the real consumption of your market or the economy is not in the best condition, or both. Conclusion - something needs to be changed :)

Or the problem, as usually, is in the head of people and parents. According to their vision, it is more prestige if your child will be an accountant or financier (that was popular in my country in 2000s), then a plumber or someone whos profession involves having dirty hands (mechanic, construction builder and etc).

And now we have overabundance of accountants, and lack of good plumbers for example. A plumber now charge 50-100 EUR for screwing one screw to install water tap and connect two water hoses with central water system (10min work), while an average bookkeeper earn 100-200 EUR per month doing freelance job as a remote accountant in small company.

Who we will become in the future is by our own choice, not by education. Education gives us the first foundations on which we can build our own future, it does not determine our future. In this case both accountant and plumber are trained but the difference is the educational environment, one gets formal education, from universities, and one gets education from outside institutions, and society might call it informal.
We can see without education both would not be able to become accountants and plumbers, so education is really important.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: GelatikKembar on October 06, 2022, 10:01:33 AM
Educational standards will determine work in the office, but beyond that education is only a place to learn, but in my opinion education does not guarantee someone to work.
What do you mean: the education system is broken because the work is not in accordance with the courses.
Cases like this, because someone no longer places knowledge in the real dimension, they perceive education as a place to find work and are more individual.

The meaning of education itself is to learn all the basic knowledge to serve as a guide in his life and it can clearly be brought into the environment to find work that suits each one. Because a person must have certain skills towards what he really likes in his life, so that someone can make the things he likes as a job to produce because a hobby that is always occupied and can be a source of income for each individual is a very pleasant job.
When our skills can make money of course it is a good thing because sometimes someone just uses it for fun,
and in this case I think higher education is still important,
What is clear is that education is a foundation that must be owned by everyone


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Marykeller on October 06, 2022, 05:58:43 PM
Education is meant to open your eyes and your brains. It will expose you to various words of ideas and opportunities rather than cornering you into limited choices of job offers. Being educated doesn't mean you have a guaranteed job to work in the exact field you studied. Several successful people in the world aren't practising their field of study. They make use of your intellectual to create jobs for themselves


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: iv4n on October 06, 2022, 07:35:08 PM
CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job.

But without a certificate, you are not qualified for some higher position! This is a strange part, even if someone knows better the advantage has a guy with a diploma. So in my company, people who know something have low-level places, and people with diplomas have big paychecks and zero knowledge... yes, we are going down. So instead of progressing and going forward, it's like we are going backward, it's just a question of time when will everything fall apart!

Education failed everywhere! Every new generation should be better than the one before, but it's not the case, we are trapped, simply the system is rigged! "They" don't want educated people with open minds, "they" need slaves and people who will work for them.

I guess it's perfect for this topic, enjoy:

Pink Floyd - Another brick in the wall https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IpYOF4Hi6Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IpYOF4Hi6Q)


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Fatunad on October 06, 2022, 07:59:40 PM
Education is meant to open your eyes and your brains. It will expose you to various words of ideas and opportunities rather than cornering you into limited choices of job offers. Being educated doesn't mean you have a guaranteed job to work in the exact field you studied. Several successful people in the world aren't practising their field of study. They make use of your intellectual to create jobs for themselves
Its one of the importance on making yourself educated, not only on having that document or certificate or diploma that you had finished studies but it is really something that really puts
you into a situation that you are aware on whats happening around or simply does have the knowledge compared into those people who hadnt able to go to school at least and finished it up.
Speaking of failing then it would be definitely be depending on various factors since people do live in a world and having different life and situations which even if he does like to go
into school but doesnt have money to support it then it would be still ending up on the same way.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: DrBeer on October 06, 2022, 10:10:19 PM
It reminds me a little of the situation in my country in the 90s, when there was a demand for accountants (entrepreneurship and private business began to develop fully), and they began to be trained in huge quantities in all educational institutions / courses, etc.
As a result, the salaries of accountants in the market fell, a huge number of unemployed "valuable employees" appeared ... and the training system worked and produced new accountants.

Most likely - educational institutions do not quite understand the real consumption of your market or the economy is not in the best condition, or both. Conclusion - something needs to be changed :)

Or the problem, as usually, is in the head of people and parents. According to their vision, it is more prestige if your child will be an accountant or financier (that was popular in my country in 2000s), then a plumber or someone whos profession involves having dirty hands (mechanic, construction builder and etc).

And now we have overabundance of accountants, and lack of good plumbers for example. A plumber now charge 50-100 EUR for screwing one screw to install water tap and connect two water hoses with central water system (10min work), while an average bookkeeper earn 100-200 EUR per month doing freelance job as a remote accountant in small company.

You are very right in pointing out and explaining the problem!
Firstly, there is such a problem - as the outdated views of parents who think rather by old standards, and are trying to realize "their dreams" through their children, in reality, which has already changed a lot, but they have not yet understood it .. And unfortunately they will not understand it anymore, Well, at least most parents...
The second problem is an incorrect assessment of the prospects. Or opportunities. That's what you said about the accountant and the plumber. The problem is that if everyone becomes accountants, then everyone's taps will start to flow, water drains will clog .... But the smartest accountant is unlikely to be able to do something. And due to the fact that there will be 1 plumbers per million accountants, the cost of plumbing work will cost MORE than the work of an accountant ...


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: ChiBitCTy on October 06, 2022, 10:34:31 PM
I think education has failed a lot of people in different countries.  I know here in the United States we have a decent grade school/high school (pre-college) overall "rating" if you want to call it that.  But I know there's certainly other countries who do a better job of teach youth. 

The one thing that the United States does have the best of is colleges.  This is really where I got my education and without the degree I earned, I wouldn't have been able to work in the field I'm in.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: dothebeats on October 06, 2022, 11:22:33 PM
Education isn't a failure IMO, the system is. Imagine majoring in Science but you have to take 4 freaking history classes that may be a huge reason why you wouldn't be able to move to the next course? That's straight up scam. Plus, you there is always that prerequisite that isn't entirely related to your major that will eat a lot of your time. If they drop some of the things that you don't need and focus on the things that will help you get a job, just imagine how many learned individuals we may have produced by now that are experts on their field.

But I guess the point of the education system is to make kids learn just enough and not too much, because this society doesn't want to produce individuals that are smarter than those seated in the office to prove a point. This is why it's still better to enter a trade school because you're guaranteed to learn a lot on your chosen trade than your traditional universities out there.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on October 07, 2022, 02:41:02 AM
I don't think education could ever fail in any developing country. My reason for saying so is because, it could be disseminated in varying forms. It has gone beyond the norms of classroom attendance. Persons these days choose vocational or journey man course learning, because it is a surety to financial security, whereby one is saved stress of seeking for a job upon graduation from college.
In my country Nigeria, students in higher institutions of learning have sat at home for almost 8months, due to inadequacies in coming to a reasonable and consensual agreement between the federal government and the governing bodies or these higher institutes of learning.
This however has made many of these students to seek knowledge or education in other vocations, so as to eke a living and not beg or resort to murderous crimes in order to survive.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Fara Chan on October 07, 2022, 04:15:07 AM
The meaning of education itself is to learn all the basic knowledge to serve as a guide in his life and it can clearly be brought into the environment to find work that suits each one. Because a person must have certain skills towards what he really likes in his life, so that someone can make the things he likes as a job to produce because a hobby that is always occupied and can be a source of income for each individual is a very pleasant job.
For the actual function of education you have described quite well, education is general in nature and can be interpreted as a pacemaker for someone to understand the basic principles, because with education people will be more focused in living their daily lives.
The development of an increasing advanced era, education can be brought into any work, both in offices and other jobs that are more general in nature, while skills are needed for career advancement or new jobs that are being pursued.

When our skills can make money of course it is a good thing because sometimes someone just uses it for fun,
and in this case I think higher education is still important,
What is clear is that education is a foundation that must be owned by everyone
Skills are not only formed in formal education, but many people find skills outside formal education, but back again as we said at the beginning, that education is a person's first step to understand technology and others, with education people will focus more on research and development of new technology


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: CageMabok on October 07, 2022, 05:01:37 AM
Skills are not only formed in formal education, but many people find skills outside formal education, but back again as we said at the beginning, that education is a person's first step to understand technology and others, with education people will focus more on research and development of new technology

I think it is a very natural thing when there are some people who have other skills outside the formal education they have attended in school or lectures. But some of the people I saw at my place actually went through that education just to get a diploma and wanted everyone to admit that they already had a certain title, but they didn't have any skills at all. And I think this is a very strange thing because after several years of education, they still can't do anything and are not even productive enough for themselves.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: yudi09 on October 07, 2022, 05:25:01 AM
I think it is a very natural thing when there are some people who have other skills outside the formal education they have attended in school or lectures. But some of the people I saw at my place actually went through that education just to get a diploma and wanted everyone to admit that they already had a certain title, but they didn't have any skills at all. And I think this is a very strange thing because after several years of education, they still can't do anything and are not even productive enough for themselves.
This is due to the lack of land for them to develop the knowledge they have acquired during their education. It could be because they are wrong in choosing the right field of study that makes it difficult for them to develop their skills. If they go to college according to their talents, surely they will know what to do after they finish college. In this case, I can say that they went to college just to join in.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Rockstarguy on October 07, 2022, 10:27:38 PM
I think it is a very natural thing when there are some people who have other skills outside the formal education they have attended in school or lectures. But some of the people I saw at my place actually went through that education just to get a diploma and wanted everyone to admit that they already had a certain title, but they didn't have any skills at all. And I think this is a very strange thing because after several years of education, they still can't do anything and are not even productive enough for themselves.
This is due to the lack of land for them to develop the knowledge they have acquired during their education. It could be because they are wrong in choosing the right field of study that makes it difficult for them to develop their skills. If they go to college according to their talents, surely they will know what to do after they finish college. In this case, I can say that they went to college just to join in.
If people find it difficult to practice what they are being taught in school,  that shouldn't stop them from learning other skills that can be productive to them, their are many skills that one can choose that will be suitable.  Not everyone ends up in practicing what is been taught in school, most people after school they get any skill and make it a career.  I don't see reason why people would allow what they learned from school that they can't practice stop them from learning any skill.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: sayaya17 on October 07, 2022, 11:00:35 PM
I think it is a very natural thing when there are some people who have other skills outside the formal education they have attended in school or lectures. But some of the people I saw at my place actually went through that education just to get a diploma and wanted everyone to admit that they already had a certain title, but they didn't have any skills at all. And I think this is a very strange thing because after several years of education, they still can't do anything and are not even productive enough for themselves.
This is due to the lack of land for them to develop the knowledge they have acquired during their education. It could be because they are wrong in choosing the right field of study that makes it difficult for them to develop their skills. If they go to college according to their talents, surely they will know what to do after they finish college. In this case, I can say that they went to college just to join in.

It's true that most people go to university just because it's just a formality to get a diploma so it's easy to get a job. Or there are also those who
enter university because they follow their parents orders or follow their friends. That's why many people who graduate from university end up having
a hard time getting a job, it's because they made the wrong decision from the start. Should choose a major at the University must be in accordance
with the talents we have or even choose a major according to what we like. So if we study at the University according to our talents and preferences,
then after graduating college as you said they would know what to do. So should people study at the University according to their own wishes,
then usually the education they get is useful in their lives, because we do something according to our interests. That way the results are also usually
not disappointing.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Vaskiy on October 07, 2022, 11:53:17 PM

If people find it difficult to practice what they are being taught in school,  that shouldn't stop them from learning other skills that can be productive to them, their are many skills that one can choose that will be suitable.  Not everyone ends up in practicing what is been taught in school, most people after school they get any skill and make it a career.  I don't see reason why people would allow what they learned from school that they can't practice stop them from learning any skill.
What is being taught in schools were just a part and those are basic things that makes a person eligible to get into a job. The job market is different and it is a must to keep ourselves prepared for what is being required. Here we might experience difficulty in finding opportunities as well as making business. It is our ability and the understanding that brings success.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: yudi09 on October 08, 2022, 03:51:39 AM
This is due to the lack of land for them to develop the knowledge they have acquired during their education. It could be because they are wrong in choosing the right field of study that makes it difficult for them to develop their skills. If they go to college according to their talents, surely they will know what to do after they finish college. In this case, I can say that they went to college just to join in.
If people find it difficult to practice what they are being taught in school,  that shouldn't stop them from learning other skills that can be productive to them, their are many skills that one can choose that will be suitable.  Not everyone ends up in practicing what is been taught in school, most people after school they get any skill and make it a career.  I don't see reason why people would allow what they learned from school that they can't practice stop them from learning any skill.
Yes. There is still a lot of room and place for them to develop their skills as long as the desire to learn is still there. In my opinion, education does not have to be formal because the essence of education is the desire to act based on curiosity in the mind.
If we see that there is potential in someone and we have the facilities to develop that person's potential, then that is also the best means of education. On this basis I say that there is still a lot of room and place to hone skills.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Fara Chan on October 08, 2022, 04:33:15 AM
I think it is a very natural thing when there are some people who have other skills outside the formal education they have attended in school or lectures. But some of the people I saw at my place actually went through that education just to get a diploma and wanted everyone to admit that they already had a certain title, but they didn't have any skills at all. And I think this is a very strange thing because after several years of education, they still can't do anything and are not even productive enough for themselves.
This often happens in developing countries, because to apply for an office job the main requirement is a university diploma, so the encouragement of people living in that country must complete that level of education, without a university diploma we will be considered as freelancers.
So if we live in a country like that, skills are needed, so that we can create our own jobs, such as other businesses and entrepreneurship that we control ourselves and are independent.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: odunybiz on October 08, 2022, 05:29:56 AM

Without any educational background, a person will most likely suffer in this day and age.

Suffer in which aspect? Is it in interacting with people? Reading or writing? If it is suffer in terms of being poor, education never guarantee riches. We have some successful entrepreneurs out there with little or no education. Examples includes
1. Mark Zuckerberg
2. Steve Jobs
 They utilize opportunities and turn it out to wealth. Today they employ numerous educated people to work in their company.

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Job opportunities and education are two (2) different fields, although they are connected. I think this is the time where the government must provide ample opportunities in order to address this problem.

No matter how many job government creat, it may not be enough in most developing countries. It is high time graduate learn how to be creative. Creativity with education can help eradicate unemployment and underemployment.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: gunhell16 on October 08, 2022, 05:52:06 AM
This is the kind of false belief that is planted in the minds of most people. Everyone should know that learning is not bad, it is a way for us to gain knowledge about things we don't know yet. But this is not the 100% way to reach our dreams in life and guarantee that you will be hired immediately when you apply to a company.

Studying is just one of the achievements that we can have as a background that you have completed a life curriculum. So it is not surprising that every year the number of unemployed is increasing.

Because what contributes to the economy of a country are the businesses that operate under each country's government.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: doomloop on October 08, 2022, 02:53:21 PM
I think it is a very natural thing when there are some people who have other skills outside the formal education they have attended in school or lectures. But some of the people I saw at my place actually went through that education just to get a diploma and wanted everyone to admit that they already had a certain title, but they didn't have any skills at all. And I think this is a very strange thing because after several years of education, they still can't do anything and are not even productive enough for themselves.
This is due to the lack of land for them to develop the knowledge they have acquired during their education. It could be because they are wrong in choosing the right field of study that makes it difficult for them to develop their skills. If they go to college according to their talents, surely they will know what to do after they finish college. In this case, I can say that they went to college just to join in.
The funny thing is, we are looking for some people in some fields, they need to be educated and educated a lot better than how they are right now, but we do not need a lot of them, we need just "some" people in that field, hopefully doing it great. Which means that some fields are getting a lot more people than we need and causes a lot of trouble.

Just to give an example, in my nation we have a lot of teachers, which means teachers get paid less than what they are worth since they are replaceable and many teachers are out of a job, and government tries to put them in local places but can't employ them all, so there are way too many teachers who are either working for a little amount of money, or not working at all.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Kadal Ijo on October 08, 2022, 03:39:41 PM
Many countries are developing trying to imitate the model of education in developed countries, of course this will be difficult because of many factors that influence, and in my opinion the culture of a country that can make education fail.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Oluwa-btc on October 08, 2022, 05:27:16 PM

If people find it difficult to practice what they are being taught in school,  that shouldn't stop them from learning other skills that can be productive to them, their are many skills that one can choose that will be suitable.  Not everyone ends up in practicing what is been taught in school, most people after school they get any skill and make it a career.  I don't see reason why people would allow what they learned from school that they can't practice stop them from learning any skill.
What is being taught in schools were just a part and those are basic things that makes a person eligible to get into a job. The job market is different and it is a must to keep ourselves prepared for what is being required. Here we might experience difficulty in finding opportunities as well as making business. It is our ability and the understanding that brings success.

School isn't everything in this current world, but then, according to a meme I saw today, it says "If school works for you fine, if hustling works out also for you fine the bigger goal and picture is to be successfull "

But then, to make my conclusion on if education has failed in some developing countries, I'll say yes in some way;
• The Economist and Financial analyst don't have financial intelligence and awareness.
•The Political representative has all failed us in different ways
• Agriculture taught in schools are mostly over looked, this days every one wants to be social media influencer and Instagram celebrities.
Etc a lot more this are a little or few that flooded inner my skull, immediately I came across this post.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Davidvictorson on October 08, 2022, 08:40:58 PM
CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.
OP I agree with what you have said. The truth is it is easier said than done. For example a graduate cannot just set up a business he or she would first need the Enabling environment will also need access to Capital would also need a favourable policy or policies that would drive small and medium-scale Enterprise. The question now that begs for an answer is does this graduate have an enabling environment to set up a small and medium scale enter? Ideal favorable policies for small and medium scale Enterprises? Are there access to interest free loan?



Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Smartvirus on October 08, 2022, 09:07:24 PM
CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.
OP I agree with what you have said. The truth is it is easier said than done. For example a graduate cannot just set up a business he or she would first need the Enabling environment will also need access to Capital would also need a favourable policy or policies that would drive small and medium-scale Enterprise. The question now that begs for an answer is does this graduate have an enabling environment to set up a small and medium scale enter? Ideal favorable policies for small and medium scale Enterprises? Are there access to interest free loan?
It often seems this way because, the times for which we could have used in making the most charge has past. Schools no longer serves as a guarantee to some gainful employment like the early days of independence of developing countries. I hear from the time of my father's, most of them were practically handpicked into there jobs because the educated once amongst the populace were just a handful and so it was easy to place them.

Now, we've got thousands of graduates yearly with no job to practice there profession. It's unfortunate but, it leaves graduates looking for other options instead of specialisation and besting their trades/profession. The next you know, we've got a scheme that works to frustrate and hinders industrialisation.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: RockBell on October 08, 2022, 09:44:36 PM
Education is really important. In most developing countries, especially in Africa, where there is a frequent occurrence of strikes, students are always forced to seat at home, which has actually affected the system, allowing so many youths to have lost hope in education and some still using an old curriculum that is outdated, and education is supposed to be valuable to the government in the sense of contrition.to bring ideas that will ease labor in terms of technology in the country, but when education fails is actually a big problem, during my undergraduate I was not only graduated in academics alone but in my behaviors to have gotten ideas that are not taught in class people learn different things while in school so I feel education should actually be improved in developing countries even learning a skill is education


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: BRINIRHA on October 08, 2022, 10:19:05 PM
Individual awareness of education in developing countries has actually begun to increase. Unfortunately, the government is often unable to facilitate it properly. or sometimes the quality of education provided is not updated so that the current education curriculum is equated with the ancient education curriculum. For example, when I was at school, it was only natural that at school I was taught computers were only limited to turning the computer on and off or just writing a few words in Microsoft Word. that's normal for the first time. because computers were even very rare at that time. and even cell phones are rarely owned. but for today or today's generation. computer science lessons should be improved, not just what I learned before. because of computer knowledge, children today are even good at operating computers since the beginning of elementary school. but unfortunately because of the teaching staff in some developing countries there are some who cannot innovate in teaching. so the way of teaching is too monotonous. so I mean. curriculum must be adjusted. adapted to the needs of today's era. so that when they graduate school graduates are ready to work optimally. maybe some countries have done it.
but another obstacle is the large gap between the number of school graduates and the number of job vacancies. so that more than 50% mostly become unemployed and they work not in accordance with the majors they enter in school. although I also see the fact that sometimes those who become successful are those who are not lucky enough to get a job. but they do not give up and innovate to make work independently. and they even became more advanced than their friends who were accepted to work in the office.
So in the end, graduating from school does not guarantee getting a job. but at least through school it is hoped that students will have the knowledge to enter the community. even though they don't work for other people, they can try to make entrepreneurs or become freelancers.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Pumared on October 09, 2022, 01:30:38 AM
It often seems this way because, the times for which we could have used in making the most charge has past. Schools no longer serves as a guarantee to some gainful employment like the early days of independence of developing countries. I hear from the time of my father's, most of them were practically handpicked into there jobs because the educated once amongst the populace were just a handful and so it was easy to place them.

(...)

I dare say it never did. Elementary school and college are more general "educations". I believe that someone will really specialize in something when they have a master's or doctorate.

Before that, it is nothing more than general knowledge about a specific subject.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: yudi09 on October 09, 2022, 05:31:49 AM
This is due to the lack of land for them to develop the knowledge they have acquired during their education. It could be because they are wrong in choosing the right field of study that makes it difficult for them to develop their skills. If they go to college according to their talents, surely they will know what to do after they finish college. In this case, I can say that they went to college just to join in.
~snip

Just to give an example, in my nation we have a lot of teachers, which means teachers get paid less than what they are worth since they are replaceable and many teachers are out of a job, and government tries to put them in local places but can't employ them all, so there are way too many teachers who are either working for a little amount of money, or not working at all.
Means depending on the need. That's what I can understand from the example you gave.
In choosing an education, it is also necessary to look at good opportunities. If in our country there are already too many educators or teachers, then don't choose that field anymore to be able to take on a role to apply skills. In the country where I was born and raised, apart from teachers, there are a lot of health workers.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Majestic-milf on October 10, 2022, 11:04:40 AM
 Sometimes, it's not education that failed. Probably those individuals who actually chose a course solely on the basis of others choosing it and as such end up not understanding their purpose.
 I feel that education, whether formal or informal is quite necessary as it equips one prepare for the future, but above all, it's also necessary to have a skill or two so you don't become dependent on your degree in school to get gainful employment but rather you become an employer of labour.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: TribalBob on October 10, 2022, 02:28:01 PM
Most people go to school believing that they will get a job after schooling. In most developing country, the rate of unemployment keep increasing every year as graduate are produced every year to the labor market with a decline in rate of job opportunity. Using Nigeria as a case study, over 600,000 graduates are produced every year to the labour market with no job opportunity. This make the rate of unemployment increase every year.

https://i.ibb.co/ZJRhprv/Screenshot-20220925-233749.jpg

Due to this, most youth believe education as failed them after graduated for years without a job. Alot of graduate are into transportation and other minor stuff that are irrelevant to thier course of study to sustain their living.

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This is seen in a case where some students went back to their school to demand for a payback of all money spent during their schooling period after graduating for years without job.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2022/09/video-drama-as-lautech-graduate-visits-school-to-return-certificate-demand-refund-of-fees/amp/

My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No

Being educated means you are trainable i.e you should be able to use your acquired knowledge to creat space for yourself in the labour market even if their isn't any job opportunity. Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate.


CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.

Education does not guarantee you a job, but  education can provide you with the capital to create new jobs.
In developing countries, sometimes the government uses foreign workers to be employed, or foreign graduates, even though the results of education in their own country are also of sufficient quality like those who study outside their country.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: worldofcoins on October 26, 2022, 11:30:05 AM

back in the days where big businesses in town subsidized the kids of their employees to go to school but when big businesses are compromised by unions, it shuts down. kids suffer to listen to apathetic teachers.

government has got a lot of things to intervene including education as a priority in building a nation. not just in Nigeria but in many different countries, education has failed especially when teachers are not paid well.

You can't blame education for unemployment. Lack of opportunities is also an essential factor for unemployment. If there aren't sufficient opportunities for educated people, it will result in unemployment. So, yes, you are correct that education does not guarantee jobs and can never secure employment. Still, it supports finding a good opportunity that fits your skillset and education.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: inthelongrun on October 27, 2022, 12:45:51 PM

back in the days where big businesses in town subsidized the kids of their employees to go to school but when big businesses are compromised by unions, it shuts down. kids suffer to listen to apathetic teachers.

government has got a lot of things to intervene including education as a priority in building a nation. not just in Nigeria but in many different countries, education has failed especially when teachers are not paid well.

You can't blame education for unemployment. Lack of opportunities is also an essential factor for unemployment. If there aren't sufficient opportunities for educated people, it will result in unemployment. So, yes, you are correct that education does not guarantee jobs and can never secure employment. Still, it supports finding a good opportunity that fits your skillset and education.

Somehow teachers getting paid well also matters when it comes to the quality of education. There was also a moment when in my country government teachers were bypassed and their salaries remained low compared to other professions. What happened is our graduates are not that standard anymore compared to the graduates of the previous years. And I also noticed that smart people won't choose a teaching career because it is becoming cheap. Although we do have teachers' board exams, I felt like they are really not that hard to pass. Teachers are the backbones of the future so this profession should be taken care of. 

With regard to unemployment, most of the time the educated ones have the advantages over the non-educated ones. In business, the educated ones are also at an advantage most of the time.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Rockstarguy on October 27, 2022, 03:24:41 PM
People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
Education does not guarantee life’s future success, but having good education in your previous years will help you easier to find decent jobs that gives good compensation. However, in cases that educated people do not succeed, because they tend to become lazy and never take the opportunities and chances that they have gained through having formal education. That way, success will be very hard to achieve.
Success in life is not only education.  Education is good for everyone but does not mean one should just the mind on education  and nor to have another in life. In life there are different opportunities that hits our way, sometimes the opportunity in education may not be there but the skill one has can cover up for survival.
Life is planning if people can take skill serious the way they have hope in education, their wont be much worried for a source of living and good life.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: harapan on October 27, 2022, 03:57:44 PM
People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
Education does not guarantee life’s future success, but having good education in your previous years will help you easier to find decent jobs that gives good compensation. However, in cases that educated people do not succeed, because they tend to become lazy and never take the opportunities and chances that they have gained through having formal education. That way, success will be very hard to achieve.
Success in life is not only education.  Education is good for everyone but does not mean one should just the mind on education  and nor to have another in life. In life there are different opportunities that hits our way, sometimes the opportunity in education may not be there but the skill one has can cover up for survival.
Life is planning if people can take skill serious the way they have hope in education, their wont be much worried for a source of living and good life.

Very accurate, people have become successfully recognize by doing uglies and bad deal's such like drug's, hit man duties and also both robbery. Life is all about preparedness for the future. keeping money in the right places at the right time will help you when the time arrives. Music and Entertainment are also other sub areas people have become successfully recognize in the world,have you also thought of sport's, golf, crickets and also soccer. School's are good but not everyone wants to follow that path.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Rengga Jati on October 27, 2022, 11:44:18 PM
Most people go to school believing that they will get a job after schooling. In most developing country, the rate of unemployment keep increasing every year as graduate are produced every year to the labor market with a decline in rate of job opportunity.
This may really happen to develop countries. I may not say for all developing countries. But here, in my country, as one of them, education is likely more to the theory. There are lots of theories to be studied until the students feel stressed and confused with what they are learning. The target of the education is very high, the score on the test and at the end of the education, the stage becomes one of the most points to say that a college is a good college to study, that a student is very smart in their classroom or in their room. In fact, studying so much knowledge but fewer practies based on their own skill and ability really cannot help them much in the future. They cannot focus on what they are really going to take because they must study all things at one time together.
We can see how complicated and how complex their study is so far. Most parents send them tot eh school mostly expecting them to have better jobs after graduating, moreover, they can eb able be civil servants. The thought that being a civil servant is one of the best jobs in the country has been rooted and still happened in most developing countries. In brief, education curriculum and strategy will really influence how the education and the output of the education itself to the country.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: sukmo on October 28, 2022, 02:34:51 AM
If there is a question about whether formal education guarantees employment then the answer is No.

how can that be? educated means you gain a lot of knowledge while attending high school and are trained that you should be able to use the knowledge you gain to create space for yourself in the labor market even if there are no job opportunities,Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate person.

but in developing countries without a school certificate you will find it increasingly difficult to compete. work so that education is needed, what must be changed is that the educational curriculum in schools does not only focus on knowledge that is not relevant to the world of work in the future but also teaches skills.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: serjent05 on October 29, 2022, 03:55:20 PM

back in the days where big businesses in town subsidized the kids of their employees to go to school but when big businesses are compromised by unions, it shuts down. kids suffer to listen to apathetic teachers.

government has got a lot of things to intervene including education as a priority in building a nation. not just in Nigeria but in many different countries, education has failed especially when teachers are not paid well.

You can't blame education for unemployment. Lack of opportunities is also an essential factor for unemployment. If there aren't sufficient opportunities for educated people, it will result in unemployment. So, yes, you are correct that education does not guarantee jobs and can never secure employment. Still, it supports finding a good opportunity that fits your skillset and education.


At the end of the day, it is the government that provides opportunities for employment,  The government should invest in creating jobs not only in a specific field but in all fields so that learnings will be diversified.  The problem with the current system is that government development is only focused on some industries not taking advantage of the many fields that will create jobs for graduates and undergraduates alike. 

but in developing countries without a school certificate you will find it increasingly difficult to compete. work so that education is needed, what must be changed is that the educational curriculum in schools does not only focus on knowledge that is not relevant to the world of work in the future but also teaches skills.

Because most student are taking the same course, there is no diversification so it leads to one job being saturated and many other jobs being abandoned.  You can take the example of agricultural and development, only a few people are taking this kind of education making many job position being vacant in this industry but IT's, eng'rs, management and many more are being saturated.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: erep on November 03, 2022, 04:35:25 PM
Because most student are taking the same course, there is no diversification so it leads to one job being saturated and many other jobs being abandoned.  You can take the example of agricultural and development, only a few people are taking this kind of education making many job position being vacant in this industry but IT's, eng'rs, management and many more are being saturated.
The favorite subjects chosen by students are management, IT, and others, but a very minority of students choose agriculture, architecture, fashion majors. So every year so many students graduate from college that the government does not have the capacity to provide decent jobs even half of the percentage of students do not have jobs or work not according to their skills in college. We have to change our mindset and don't expect to get a job from the government because the new era of technology allows us to be free to express ourselves to show our abilities to the world, we can work freelance for work contracts with anyone so that we have relationships from various people around the world.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Mahanton on November 03, 2022, 08:50:35 PM
People always associate success with good education, many millionaires who are not high school, this can be enthusiastic for those of us who do not have higher education to succeed, the key to success is not just education and according to education experts are 10% requirements for success, attitudes and Positive thoughts viewing conditions are the ultimate factor for success.
Education does not guarantee life’s future success, but having good education in your previous years will help you easier to find decent jobs that gives good compensation. However, in cases that educated people do not succeed, because they tend to become lazy and never take the opportunities and chances that they have gained through having formal education. That way, success will be very hard to achieve.
Success in life is not only education.  Education is good for everyone but does not mean one should just the mind on education  and nor to have another in life. In life there are different opportunities that hits our way, sometimes the opportunity in education may not be there but the skill one has can cover up for survival.
Life is planning if people can take skill serious the way they have hope in education, their wont be much worried for a source of living and good life.

Very accurate, people have become successfully recognize by doing uglies and bad deal's such like drug's, hit man duties and also both robbery. Life is all about preparedness for the future. keeping money in the right places at the right time will help you when the time arrives. Music and Entertainment are also other sub areas people have become successfully recognize in the world,have you also thought of sport's, golf, crickets and also soccer. School's are good but not everyone wants to follow that path.
But you shouldnt really make yourself believe that having no education is something that good for a certain person.Nothing beats out if you finished up your studies not only for the sake on having a degree
and not for the sake of getting decent job but also rather having that knowledge and awareness on things around you and since you are knowledgeable or something do knows on certain things then you could
easily adapt.You are the ones who do really make out your own path when it comes to your future which if you do something shit or didnt make out any action then there's nothing would happen into you.
This is why its really that relevant on finishing up studies and this is the time you do make decision on which path you would be taking after that.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Renampun on November 04, 2022, 11:23:19 PM
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CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.

there are millions more of them who graduate from college every year in almost all countries but only a few percent have the intention to change their country's economy through the skills and knowledge they get while others only aim to find work after graduation.
then it is important for the mental formation of every young person so that they can have a strong motivation to think outside the box and create bright and creative ideas, and schools can already implement this mental education.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: xSkylarx on November 05, 2022, 05:30:06 AM
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CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.

there are millions more of them who graduate from college every year in almost all countries but only a few percent have the intention to change their country's economy through the skills and knowledge they get while others only aim to find work after graduation.
then it is important for the mental formation of every young person so that they can have a strong motivation to think outside the box and create bright and creative ideas, and schools can already implement this mental education.


And we just got back from the pandemic, in which a lot of people lost their jobs and businesses closed, but there are still many graduates looking for jobs. I think having a job is very difficult now a days because the demands to get one are greater than the number of jobs created. This mostly happened, i think, in third-world countries because of a lack of investors and because the country's government was really involved in it. Though you have a point of having thinking outside the box but if we are lacking for a job opening we will still wouldn't able to land a job


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: BigBos on November 05, 2022, 09:24:24 AM
The government's goal in developed or developing countries is to facilitate education to create good human resources in order to have a good quality of life for every citizen. and of course the government has prepared an effective and efficient education system and curriculum for learning materials in every school or university and of course in accordance with the times and the characteristics of the generation, but many excellent and clear systems and curricula will bring progress to the country. ineffective because learning facilities are not evenly distributed in every educational institution. so that only a few educational institutions are able to run the curriculum and system properly because they have adequate educational facilities. In addition, the obstacle to education in developing countries is the lack of educators, it cannot be denied that educators are the main actors in the implementation of education because it is very important to have qualified educators or teachers to implement the education system and curriculum.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Altryist on November 22, 2022, 02:33:00 PM
Education is really important. In most developing countries, especially in Africa, where there is a frequent occurrence of strikes, students are always forced to seat at home, which has actually affected the system, allowing so many youths to have lost hope in education and some still using an old curriculum that is outdated, and education is supposed to be valuable to the government in the sense of contrition.to bring ideas that will ease labor in terms of technology in the country, but when education fails is actually a big problem, during my undergraduate I was not only graduated in academics alone but in my behaviors to have gotten ideas that are not taught in class people learn different things while in school so I feel education should actually be improved in developing countries even learning a skill is education
The education of young people is encouraged in developed countries because governments there understand the value of an educated society. But unfortunately there are countries that are not interested in this, because it is easier to manage a poorly educated population, they know less about their rights and opportunities. Education is a very important aspect for every person and especially for young people who want achieve more in this life.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: sulendra12 on November 22, 2022, 09:51:38 PM
Most people graduating especially from developed countries are they have no skill either soft and hard skill. Sure they have education, but bringing that education to real-work requires skill and most of them are not capable for doing that, that's why they ended up to low-level job such as shopkeeper or any similar jobs out there.

It's also school/university fault that they can't bring good curriculum into the degree and putting any curriculum that they think good instead of focusing to the core of that degree, the students feel like they learn nothing because they are forced to know anything instead of what they passion about. It's common in developed countries.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Bitcoin1216 on November 24, 2022, 09:51:31 AM
Sometimes the state is too ambitious to create an education system that mimics developed countries, but the most important thing that makes fail is the state does not pay attention to economic needs, we must understand that economics and education are things that cannot be separated, when trying to improve education but poverty is still high then it will be difficult.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: lizarder on November 24, 2022, 07:28:05 PM
Most people go to school believing that they will get a job after schooling. In most developing country, the rate of unemployment keep increasing every year as graduate are produced every year to the labor market with a decline in rate of job opportunity. Using Nigeria as a case study, over 600,000 graduates are produced every year to the labour market with no job opportunity. This make the rate of unemployment increase every year.
This is where the mistake was instilled by our predecessors, that school is the basis for setting work standards, whereas school is only a place to study according to the applicable curriculum.

It seems that people fail to understand education, because in fact it is not education that fails, education trains a person in accordance with the field being pursued and education is also the basis for humans to know knowledge.
There are several portions that we must know, so that education is in line with the production of academic graduates. For example, in an area of residence where there are no jobs, or a lack of graduate skills needed by the world of work, areas like this will continue to blame education.

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Due to this, most youth believe education as failed them after graduated for years without a job. Alot of graduate are into transportation and other minor stuff that are irrelevant to thier course of study to sustain their living.
It is more interesting for us to discuss this issue in detail, educational relevance is not measured by the level of job demand in each country, resulting in graduates who are not needed and graduates who are not relevant to the jobs available. As a simple example, the area has large agricultural land, so what is needed is an agricultural degree as a supporter who is more focused on developing agricultural areas independently and is able to explore the agricultural products he cultivates and uses technology as a support.

Unfortunately, areas like this are not really utilized, so that education does not run according to the needs of graduates. Therefore, it is this area that must be developed and adjusted, so that graduates who continue to accumulate do not become unemployed, not to mention talk about prestige because they hold academic degrees, so that jobs must be selected and truly selected.

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Being educated means you are trainable i.e you should be able to use your acquired knowledge to creat space for yourself in the labour market even if their isn't any job opportunity. Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate.
Even though education does not guarantee a job, we actually have the skills to develop a job space and it doesn't have to be work in the scope of offices, agriculture and plantations which are also two things that are quite promising. These skills are not born, when people do not have education and because of education people are not illiterate

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CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.
The conclusion is correct, that education does not guarantee someone to work, because the function of the school is only at the level of learning, while a diploma is legality for someone who has followed the level of education. Skills, self-development and technology are three resources that must be owned by humans. If this is mastered, then the work will be easily formed and developed in a measurable way.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Crypto Legend on November 25, 2022, 10:31:18 AM
Not all programs that are carried out can be according to plan, especially education is a matter that requires concern from everyone, when the country tries to implement the education system by imitating the developed country system, many will fail because the country is not ready or lies with previous habits.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Yatsan on November 25, 2022, 02:25:51 PM

My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No

Being educated means you are trainable i.e you should be able to use your acquired knowledge to creat space for yourself in the labour market even if their isn't any job opportunity. Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate.


I get your point; it depends on the skills of individuals. But think of this; would you hire a bystander as an architech if he knows how to draw? Skills won't be enough if it won't be further developed and that's the goal of every school which is to hone talents and potentials.Some people who did not manage to graduate became rich. But that doesn't mean that it would be applicable to all of us. We are all different. We have different fates. The least you can do is to create yours and education would be your biggest milestone to somehow reach that "minimum" requirement to get a job. Acquiring a job is every successful businessman's first step, 'coz it would generate the capital. So how would you do that, now that the minimum requirement on some countries is on collegiate level?


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Dickiy on November 25, 2022, 08:16:06 PM
The government's lack of attention to educational institutions and teachers to educate the nation's next generation is one of the most intimate factors for the progress of human resources in a country, there are also not a few incidents of corruption in the education budget in developing countries which have led to the incomplete development of educational infrastructure and fulfillment of educational facilities. , so that it is not in accordance with the proposed budget because many parties cut the budget before it reaches the educational institution (school foundation) in question.

I think that more and more spaces for learning and expression supported by the government by providing adequate facilities will make it easier for people (especially young people) to increase their abilities according to their hobbies and desires so that they are able to innovate and be creative which will foster competition and new jobs.



Sorry, I don't mean to deviate from the narrative that the OP gave, but I'm trying to synchronize with the thread that the OP created. is this allowed?


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: BRINIRHA on November 26, 2022, 11:00:12 AM
Not all programs that are carried out can be according to plan, especially education is a matter that requires concern from everyone, when the country tries to implement the education system by imitating the developed country system, many will fail because the country is not ready or lies with previous habits.
Correct. The education system also requires adjustments in each country. because of cultural differences, as well as differences in the level of welfare for each country is different. so that a developing country cannot directly imitate the educational style of a developed country. For example, which industries are developing and have good potential in a country also need to be used as a reference in building an education strategy in a country.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Doan9269 on November 26, 2022, 11:51:35 AM
If education has really fall to that extent then what are we doing to make it rise again and function just as it has always been and expected, education is what bring light to the society we have been living and this is what lead to civilization and developments in every areas, education is an element to exposition, discovery and providing of solution to all aspect of life be it social, economic, financial, education, information, civilization and developments that could bring about the change we all want to see it happen in the present or future life.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: CageMabok on November 26, 2022, 02:38:59 PM
Not all programs that are carried out can be according to plan, especially education is a matter that requires concern from everyone, when the country tries to implement the education system by imitating the developed country system, many will fail because the country is not ready or lies with previous habits.
Failure for countries that are still not advanced in imitating the systems of countries that have been developed is a natural thing, especially if the countries that are not developed are still not ready to move on from their old habits. Because if you want to emulate any system that is already running in developed countries, yes, of course a country must be ready to move on from its old habits so that the program you want to run can be carried out successfully.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: virasisog on November 26, 2022, 02:55:21 PM
Not all programs that are carried out can be according to plan, especially education is a matter that requires concern from everyone, when the country tries to implement the education system by imitating the developed country system, many will fail because the country is not ready or lies with previous habits.
Correct. The education system also requires adjustments in each country. because of cultural differences, as well as differences in the level of welfare for each country is different. so that a developing country cannot directly imitate the educational style of a developed country. For example, which industries are developing and have good potential in a country also need to be used as a reference in building an education strategy in a country.
Well-developed countries also have an edge when it comes to opportunities. More graduates could grab the opportunities that they want which are also related to their courses which is an edge while in developing countries, graduates have no choice but to look for job opportunities and grab the chances even if they aren't related to their field of study.
Developing countries have fewer opportunities to offer and because of this, we can't blame everything on the education system.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: palle11 on November 26, 2022, 04:27:41 PM
If education has really fall to that extent then what are we doing to make it rise again and function just as it has always been and expected, education is what bring light to the society we have been living and this is what lead to civilization and developments in every areas, education is an element to exposition, discovery and providing of solution to all aspect of life be it social, economic, financial, education, information, civilization and developments that could bring about the change we all want to see it happen in the present or future life.

What to do to achieve this is simple. Countries that their educational system has failed need to focus some money into research through the yearly budget allocation. Release money to the educational sector and the money will be used to increase the activities in this sector like building of classrooms, provision of educational material, disbursement of scholarship and free education tuition fees. This will mean increasing the budget for education and training of teachers and facilitors will reengineer the whole synergy. The countries suffering from fallen education have low budget for education and that is the fundamental issue.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: LucasStang on November 28, 2022, 09:46:32 AM
The education of a criminal is no more than the printing of his crimes upon paper. If a man is taught to steal, or to murder, or to commit arson, he will become a thief, a murderer and an arsonist when he grows up, and he need to check resume sentence generator (https://simbline.com/generators/resume) to manage his work. The only way to stop this crime-producing process is by preventing it in its starting point, that is to say at the age of eleven or twelve years.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: BADecker on November 28, 2022, 04:04:26 PM
The education of a criminal is no more than the printing of his crimes upon paper. If a man is taught to steal, or to murder, or to commit arson, he will become a thief, a murderer and an arsonist when he grows up, and he need to check resume sentence generator (https://simbline.com/generators/resume) to manage his work. The only way to stop this crime-producing process is by preventing it in its starting point, that is to say at the age of eleven or twelve years.

Thats why the smart crooks get into government. Then they can make laws that only slap people on the wrist for being criminals. Why would they do this? It's their way of protecting themselves for when they are caught themselves.

Make the punishment match the crime. Execute almost all murderers. Make robbers and thieves pay off what they stole 4 times over, from prison if necessary. And execute government politicians when they do crimes against the people... because it's treason when they break their Oath of Office.

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Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Newlifebtc on November 28, 2022, 08:25:28 PM
Educational system is very rough that someone can not be dependent on education right now because I believe that self-employed and especially with Bitcoin is more giving people money than white collar job or government employment I believe that 7 clairmont why you take serious is the kind of business that can be give you a very big rise.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Ebede on November 28, 2022, 10:14:05 PM
Educational system is very rough that someone can not be dependent on education right now because I believe that self-employed and especially with Bitcoin is more giving people money than white collar job or government employment I believe that 7 clairmont why you take serious is the kind of business that can be give you a very big rise.
Government of this present time have their own way of getting people employed especially in a corrupt country where by before you are going to be employed you must pass through someone that is been known to such a government before you can be hired as a government worker, but this present time self employment has conquered everywhere and it has been helping people but I have the understanding of performing work


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Wolfblood200$ on January 07, 2023, 10:12:18 AM
Education hasn't  failed,  perhaps formal education has, and the mindset of people in some developing countries have over prioritise formal education  while downdgrading informal education like craft and art  ,
Informal education are mostly responsible for the vast development of some western countries  ,

Governments in developing countries should give relevance to informal education like the acquiring of useful skills  ,

Brains birth good ideas but it takes skill to bring it to reality


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Sharonchy on January 07, 2023, 06:34:40 PM
A country (Nigeria) like mine is the worst of them all; imagine owing primary school teachers' salaries for 10 months; these are people that are supposed to be the highest paid. I remember sitting on the floor during lectures during my school days. After all the suffering, there is no job. Education has really failed us.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Myleschetty on January 07, 2023, 11:02:21 PM
Education hasn't  failed,  perhaps formal education has, and the mindset of people in some developing countries have over prioritise formal education  while downdgrading informal education like craft and art  ,
Informal education are mostly responsible for the vast development of some western countries  ,

Governments in developing countries should give relevance to informal education like the acquiring of useful skills  ,

Brains birth good ideas but it takes skill to bring it to reality
The major belief and what comes to mind of almost every individual when the word "Education" is talked about is always the schooling characteristic. However, they seize to understand that Education was the action of transferring information or developing abilities and character attributes. It does not mean the formal education


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Lordhermes on January 09, 2023, 11:45:26 PM
Education has never failed any country, infact it's the light and Source of development of any nation.
The reason education seems to be less valued in developing countries are because the leaders of These countries Payless attention to Educational sector.

Education,is the only tool to development, the developed countries are advance today because of educational research. But developing countries make no use of educational research and advice. They're only interested on what they will gain today after graduation and not for the future of the nation.

Education have not failed before and it will never fail.
Developing countries should emulate develpoed countries on how to make use of formal education.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Cecilia Joytwin on January 10, 2023, 04:53:27 PM
A college degree is a credential that opens the doors to many careers, but it won't ensure employment or a successful career. One benefit of attending college was that I had the chance to work on the university newspaper and get experience that helped me later in life. Without a college education, it would be challenging to obtain that kind of opportunity. For another, a degree indicates some intangibles, such as the capacity to meet deadlines, finish projects, and learn, which are otherwise challenging to prove to a potential employer. Therefore, education exposes one to talents that will be valuable in one's life in the long term.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Belarge on February 02, 2023, 07:16:24 AM
Education is a very good thing no doubt, education exposes us to many things, both good and bad,
I must say if you are been educated today in our society it's for your own good.
Education today doesn't guarantee you a job, i have seen so many people that graduated with good grades doing nothing, they are on the street playing drafts, and have seen most illiterate that are in offices working and getting paid,
 The major cause of this is connection (man know man) and this has made so many people loose the hope of been educated, because you can graduate with an upper and end up not having a job if you are not connected,

But i still urge everyone to get educated though because it's good, but if you are not opportuned to be educated, involve in others skills of learning it would still help,
Skill like,
Gmp making,
Sandal and shoe making,
Tailoring,
Welding and fabrication, etc

Those skills would help....


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Minecache on February 02, 2023, 09:30:51 AM
Education is the way, the only key to success, to put it bluntly, without education, you will be a failure, you will do nothing without education. Make no mistake that education means you are educated in traditional schools, education is something you get anywhere as long as you get the knowledge that is education. Today, formal education has no longer received much attention because of corruption, and achievement disease... causing the quality to go down a lot and instead, there are other forms, but it is still education.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Lordhermes on February 03, 2023, 08:42:25 AM
Education is the way, the only key to success, to put it bluntly, without education, you will be a failure, you will do nothing without education. Make no mistake that education means you are educated in traditional schools, education is something you get anywhere as long as you get the knowledge that is education. Today, formal education has no longer received much attention because of corruption, and achievement disease... causing the quality to go down a lot and instead, there are other forms, but it is still education.
you're wrong sir,  lack of education can'take someone a failure. We have seen educated men and women failed for their responsibility. Education is self libration nothing more, Ans it's an added advantage for success. The issue the developing countries are having are not illiteracy but lack of functioning factories to produce what That have been taught in the school. In Africa we have millions of educated people without a job or company to showcase their skills. We can all agree that education haven't fail woefully in the developing countries but lack of functioning factories and companies to showcase and produce.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Ever-young on April 07, 2024, 07:20:56 AM

back in the days where big businesses in town subsidized the kids of their employees to go to school but when big businesses are compromised by unions, it shuts down. kids suffer to listen to apathetic teachers.

government has got a lot of things to intervene including education as a priority in building a nation. not just in Nigeria but in many different countries, education has failed especially when teachers are not paid well.

You are completely correct. Technology may also be utilized to improve educational quality, make it easier to obtain, and reduce teacher workload. For example, online learning platforms can give students with access to high-quality instructional materials that they would not otherwise have. In addition, the two types of reality may be utilized to create deep educational experiences that engage students and improve learning outcomes. These are just a few instances of how technology may be used to improve education and, eventually, reduce crime. So, if all of these issues are taken care of, I believe crime will decrease over time while increasing social skill acquisition.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: |MINER| on April 07, 2024, 10:46:25 AM
Today's youth is drowning in education diversion.  They cannot take education seriously.  They think that it is better to find a way of short income rather than studying for a long time and getting a certificate.  No one did it to earn you can earn money at any age but I don't think there is any substitute for education.  It is not only for the people who get the certificate for the job.  Education is essential to develop oneself into an ideal human being.  Ignorance of education destroys a nation


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: moneystery on April 07, 2024, 11:25:54 AM
i think that it wasn't a complete failure either, just at some point. for example, in my own country, here the education system is built using the old standards, where students are forced to understand many things that they don't actually need. the education system here is not designed so that students understand how to choose what they need quickly and it is also not in line with what the industry needs. so this has an impact on the number of fresh graduates not being absorbed by industry, only a few percent.

if only the government could design an education system that is in line with what industry needs, perhaps the number of fresh graduates who are not absorbed by industry would not be as large as it is now. but unfortunately the government does not pay attention to this.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Marykeller on April 13, 2024, 12:14:26 PM
My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No
Education is never a guarantee to anyone having a job. What education does is help one to get prepared for the future on how to live, and make an impact in a given society without feeling helpless about how they will survive and create jobs for themselves in a given environment.

One being educated can survive and narrow through any surrounding they find themselves and they are open to opportunities than one who is not educated. That's the main reason why you will find many trying their best to be educated despite been successful as an uneducated being.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Dunamisx on April 13, 2024, 03:35:44 PM
If by the virtue of the kind of country we found ourselves in, we discovered about the poor quality standard in education, we don't have to limit ourself to that, we have the right of traveling elsewhere in seeking after the required standard of quality education we think is best for us to learn and acquire, there are situations in which we need to stand on our feet on what we want, if we think the best learning standard is achievable, then we can determine to afford getting one without limiting ourself to where we are located.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Dewiana on April 13, 2024, 08:26:42 PM

back in the days where big businesses in town subsidized the kids of their employees to go to school but when big businesses are compromised by unions, it shuts down. kids suffer to listen to apathetic teachers.

government has got a lot of things to intervene including education as a priority in building a nation. not just in Nigeria but in many different countries, education has failed especially when teachers are not paid well.

This is caused by the wrong curriculum or education system so that it does not keep up with the times, currently the priority is about understanding parents as the first guardians of children, if parents send their children to school for the sake of a job then that is not wrong, but it makes the children burdened. , education must be chosen by the child himself so that his mind and soul are focused. Another thing is that he must be able to choose a place of education or campus which is also important. In essence, the important concept is that good education can make students develop and also have morals and a social spirit.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Bushdark on April 13, 2024, 09:44:14 PM
Educational system is very rough that someone can not be dependent on education right now because I believe that self-employed and especially with Bitcoin is more giving people money than white collar job or government employment I believe that 7 clairmont why you take serious is the kind of business that can be give you a very big rise.
Government of this present time have their own way of getting people employed especially in a corrupt country where by before you are going to be employed you must pass through someone that is been known to such a government before you can be hired as a government worker, but this present time self employment has conquered everywhere and it has been helping people but I have the understanding of performing work
Education has never failed us but the government are the ones responsible for the suffering of the people think education is not good for them. By all means it is good for us to try our best to make sure that we are educated instead of just living a regular lifestyle without planning how the future is going to look like. We need to endeavor to improve ourselves in skills so that we can add value to the society and try to compel people to try and get education even though it might look like the government has failed in their endeavors.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: oktana on April 13, 2024, 11:27:52 PM
Education doesn’t guarantee that you’ll get a job, and this is why I think that children should learn a skill as they grow up. It’s really sad that they don’t and grow up to only achieve the certification which they have to start looking for jobs with. If kids learn a skill from an early age, when they get to high school graduation, they should be really advance and can start making money off the skill instead of having to start applying for jobs that may never pay enough money.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Churchillvv on April 13, 2024, 11:38:51 PM
The problem isn't the graduates wanting a job after graduation but it has to do with the educational system, using Nigeria as you said as a case study, the educational system was programmed to enslave the knowledge of the graduates to always seek for jobs. The learning process is not a productive one that we should expect graduates to know what to do after graduation, since they are thought how to be come works all the days of their lives when they come out they focus more on that area and if can observe closely those who have made greater impact in life generally has always been drop outs. Most of them quit the study because they found out that it's not what they believe in and hence they leave instead of their brains to be tangled with the lectures they get. Not that they are illiterates but they are not to be workers in life and that lead them to quit the schooling and focus more in life than class.

This perception has continued and have raveged the society today that most youths when entering the university they quickly make research on what industry their area of study (major) in school will lead to work in, some when they find out it has no much requirements in the society they quickly move to other majors. But in the reality your educational qualification does not guarantee anything in life. If I have my way there is absolutely nothing I would be doing in the university now, I would have been better chasing the bag as I have been doing.

Until the educational system is changed to produce productive graduates than aggressive graduates then the world of graduates will be a better place.


Title: Re: Education seems to have failed in some developing country
Post by: Obulis on April 14, 2024, 03:13:20 PM
Most people go to school believing that they will get a job after schooling. In most developing country, the rate of unemployment keep increasing every year as graduate are produced every year to the labor market with a decline in rate of job opportunity. Using Nigeria as a case study, over 600,000 graduates are produced every year to the labour market with no job opportunity. This make the rate of unemployment increase every year.

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Due to this, most youth believe education as failed them after graduated for years without a job. Alot of graduate are into transportation and other minor stuff that are irrelevant to thier course of study to sustain their living.

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This is seen in a case where some students went back to their school to demand for a payback of all money spent during their schooling period after graduating for years without job.

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My question is: Does education guarantee a job.

Answer: No

Being educated means you are trainable i.e you should be able to use your acquired knowledge to creat space for yourself in the labour market even if their isn't any job opportunity. Education will give you some skills that make you different from an illiterate.


CONCLUSION
School gives certificate but doesn't guarantee a job. Education never fails, it's gives knowledge and skills. This knowledge and skills acquired through it brings breakthrough on the long run. Therefore, graduate should think beyond getting a job after schooling but plan on how to utilize the knowledge and skills acquired through their education to create jobs for themselves and others.
Education does not guarantee jobs, but it gives you a lot of opportunities to seize and create an edge over those uneducated and illiterate people around you. Education may not guarantee you the best job that will make your life completely changed and become progressive, but somehow the knowledge and skills you learned from schools will help you overcome the challenges in your life and create a better version of you that will make you an asset in your chosen job or career.
This view of the subject matter is crystal clear and important to uphold... Being a graduate no matter no jobs still remains an asset except for illiterate graduates, arrogant or bragging graduates and blind or baby graduates . Pardon that if any arousal....