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Hi,

As you can see, I'm still a newbie, been with here since last 2020 and I ended up making an account.
I was just reading and reading, seems funny but would like to engage somehow. So here I was.
And I was curious on somethings going around here like on the Marketplace>Services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0).
Would it be considered as formal work even though I think it's more like freelancing? I mean, in formality can you include that on your Resume or CV?

If the relevance of the one you are applying with would be beneficial to know that you are posting and creating content in the forum. Maybe that would be an added advantage, and you should include that in your CV. If not, it’s just something to add, and then I think it’s not necessary to be in that CV.

It's not formal work, but it still technically counts as "experience". In which if you're just starting out and your resume/CV doesn't have that much in it, then probably add it in. It depends though, what specific Service work are you planning on adding in?

You could include that on CV since you are doing it and also it could boost your experience and profile when applying for real job. Doing freelancing is also a work but with a different context. Some would call it a hobby since its not their profession, but if you do something and earn fiat ouy of it then might be considered a job. If you are getting crypto and can convert that into money then its almost the same. But not the typical job of course.

Most if not all jobs you can find at Services and Bounties belongs to informal work. I defined formal work as long-term and official. By being official, it means there are documents and contracts signed. There are full benefits and rights and everything like the normal employee we knew as prescribed by our laws. Even some informal workers have signed contracts too but no full benefits and they aren't long-term.

You can include forum work experience to your resume but only when you believe it is beneficial to the job you are applying for.

I don't see any reason why signature campaign is called as formal work? you don't need to the company at 8 AM and back to your home at 4 PM, you don't need to become a shill who promote your company etc etc. In signature campaign you just need to wear their signature and just post regularly like before you joined the campaign, if you think the rules are strict and you not comfortable, you shouldn't apply in the first place.

If you look at your posts, you were initially interested in ranking up. That is, it can be assumed that you planned to receive payments either from subscription companies or by participating in bounties. For everything else, including doing business, rank is not important. 
I'm afraid to imagine what you can write in your resume if participation in a bounty is listed there. 
Just don't bother. The forum is a unique opportunity to gain additional knowledge, which is provided here for free. As a result, it must be regarded as a current or potential source of additional income. 

That board is relevant for both company and personal service announcements. If you have solid services to provide, you can make your Service announcement thread there.

For companies, their representative usually creates an account on the forum with username that is matched with their company. In addition, they don't have enough time to wait and build up their account up to Junior member rank in order to display images in their posts. Therefore, they will buy Copper Membership (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385104.0) to get some privileges exclusively displaying images.

Remember to do this

If it is a company, you must have good website, good products etc.
If it is your personal service, it is better if you have good reputation here.

Since you're discuss about Service board, this mean you're trying to say it's a signature campaign.

Have you tried to google first?


No one need to wear any professional attire to join signature campaign, you can post without any clothes or pants.

There's no specific rules that we need to post in x hours etc, you can post at any time.

You don't need to be in the same place to make a post, you could even post when you're still take a bath.

It doesn't met the criteria of formal work, so signature campaign isn't a formal work.

Of course, freelancing or self-employment wouldn't count as formal work but you can put it in experience and you need to indicate that it is a freelancing and not a formal work same as being a trainee or internship those wouldn't be considered as formal work but it still can be put in your CV as part of your experience.

But if you are referring to signature campaign like joining in signature campaign I am not sure what kind of experience it is but if you are the one managing the campaign or any advertisement I think you can definitely include it in your CV.

I don't know, but most of the people here are under pseudonyms, and therefore I don't know what it was possible to reveal about the identity, let alone add it to the CV.

+ Ranking here does not represent value because there is no an exam when you complete each rank nor does it mean that you have technical knowledge of Bitcoin as many of us are of legendary ranks and yet we have an average knowledge of Bitcoin.

So in short no you can add your BTT rank as an experience unless you want to apply for a Bitcoin-related job and they are looking for below average knowledge.

OP, maybe you can specifically state that you mean the bounty manager providing signature campaign services or participants signing up for the campaign. Or maybe some members offer other services such as web management or social media admin?

I don't think all of them deserve to be included in the CV. but it also depends on the company and the job title you are applying for. if it supports it as a reference I think it's fine to include it.

It may be wrong to talk about signature campaigns as a form of employment for anyone who participates in them, but I believe that there are a lot of people for whom this is the only source of income and they consider it their job. Although some will not agree that this way of earning should be considered a formal job, many people today do their jobs online, have flexible working hours and are paid for their work like someone who goes to a factory every day and works 8 hours or more.

Of course, signature campaigns are not something that should be taken as a job in the literal sense, but there are rules, pay rates, payment dates and in some countries, you even have to pay tax on this form of income if you want to do everything legally.

It can be said that signature campaigns have a lot of similarities with freelancer jobs.
So, it's about jobs that we do in our free time, when it suits us, without a specific employment contract, and that's how a lot of people on the Internet work today.
Unfortunately, this part about the obligation to declare taxes is correct, at least in my country, which really surprised me.
I thought that the tax liability only arises when btc is exchanged for fiat currency, but it is not so.
On the tax side, this is obviously a formal, real work.

Nope, the application on services in the forum is not formal and you are notmpaying tax to the salary that you earned here so you can’t use it as experienced on your resume if you are applying on physical company but you can always use this experience when applying on campaigns here in the forum since its relevant to your skills.

Only few physical company focus on crypto advertisement. Your best chance to use your experience here on formal work is to find relevant company from your experience here.

If you are applying in some crypto related forum or exchange that offers you job and ask for some past experience you can show them that you have been member of the forum but don't think it would count towards that unless you have some company experience.

This is sort of open discussion forum where you are being paid by companies to have their Signature and that's it you can't show it on your CV if you are applying for the job according to me unless you have deployed some projects and show case them here but it will only boost up your skills and that you can add in your resume definitely that you have adequate knowledge about market stuff and technical background of these coins.But getting job solely based on forum is not a feasible option for me.

I think for this category can be added to CV to show that the manager can handle online managerial position, coordination and payment. Signature Campaign management is just above posting in threads and getting payment, I believe CM have additional experience in data gathering and analysis, skilled in computer knowledge include spreadsheet, basic computer skills, design, programming including Microsoft Excel charts. If a participant add that to the CV maybe for reference of blockchain and cryptocurrency related work but not necessary.

I don't know what you do offline in real life and outside this forum but you seem to me a newbie who is busy and reluctant to post here. An account that was registered in 2021 would've had more posts and activities if they were ambitious to be here. Unfortunately, you've just 4 posts. May be it's time to roll the sleeves and work it out.

I bet your prospective employer may not have even heard about this forum, to start with. Let alone include it in your CV. Besides, this isn't even a formal place of work. You can loosely say it's a place people can earn, and then mean it to be informal. Whether people make a living here or not, I would say they do. However, it's an informal setting.

No, it is like putting an advertisement on your website, so if users see a bunch of ads on your page and click on them, they do not count as "work", so don't try to fill in any forms with "Job" as "Bitcointalk signature campaign" (unless you are a campaign manager or signature designer, in which case those are real work).

Depends on what you are interested in. I'd say it's formal if you have expertise in providing services to other users like creating logos, code signature, creating ann thread, campaign management service, creating website or something like that. But if what is meant by formal is being a participant in the signature campaign, I don't think it's the right choice.

Being a participant in a signature campaign doesn't mean you have a job. Of course it gets you results, but I wouldn't say it's work. But perhaps that mindset can differ among other signature campaign participants.

C'mon man, be serious... why would you include in your CV information that you ''worked'' as a Bitcointalk forum member?!
Let me just talk with theymos and his staff members if they can give an approval and send you certificate proof with your paid health insurance  :D
I know bitcointalk forum is special and unique place, but nobody is going to hire you anywhere if you start writing stuff like this in your work resume.

PS
Don't forget that you also ''worked'' for Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, etc.

True, but still signature campaign posts are not counted as a real job as there are no hard skills involved, besides filling in the weekly quota. Side income, yea but that's about it.

If the employer decides to press on further, I can imagine OP having a hard time trying to convince what he/ she could bring to the table:

Employer: Tell me more about this signature campaign
OP: I get paid to post on the Bitcoin forum
Employer: What have you learned from all of this posting?
OP: I get paid weekly to submit 25 posts, including 5 in the gambling subforum
Employer: What kind of posts, if you don't mind me asking?
OP: Just reiterating what others have said
Employer: Okay. So you gamble as well?
OP: No

Maybe for you (and me), but for some people coming from 3rd world countries having this as the only source of income this "job" is as real as it gets and it even demands some hard skills, like being able to write in a foreign language. I mean, there's bunch of altcoin bounty hunters who see that as their job, so I am not surprised at all when people come and ask questions like OP did.


Haha this made me chuckle and is spot on how it would look like if someone mentioned it in his CV and then employer started asking questions.

You can include freelancing on your CV too, as long as it's relevant to the job you apply to.

I personally keep my forum activities away from my real life, for privacy reasons. But if you offer for instance website development on Bitcointalk and have a portfolio of the projects you've done, you can use that to your advantage if you apply for a job as a website developer. In this case, you don't even have to specify Bitcointalk, you'll probably use other freelancing sites too.

This got me thinking: how many other forum activities would you add to your resume? Pornhub? Reddit? Facebook? Twitter? In most cases it's simply irrelevant and personal.

Employer: So you're posting on forums on working hours?
Employee: I'll let myself out.

If you're asking whether you'll be able to get a reference from the forum or the signature campaign managers I'd say; no, and probably not.

When it comes to a CV/Resume formal work, and freelancing could be considered the same as LoyceV pointed out. I don't think I've come across an employer that specifically states formal work experience. I'm not even sure I quite grasp what that means, since work is work whether you're directly employed or a contractor, i.e a freelancer. As long as it's relevant to the job you're applying for, and actually somewhat substantial then include it. However, would I put signature campaign advertisement on my resume? No.

Although, if you did you'd have to put something down like work experience of advertising, and tell them exactly how you did that. Honestly, it probably isn't going to add much to your CV, since it's a simple process which doesn't require much if any skill at all.

I'd much rather personally replace that with more important content. The employer could easily assume you're just trying to pad the resume up.

However, signature campaign earnings need to be declared to your tax man. Obviously, this is dependant on your countries rules, but generally it's considered income, and therefore needs to be declared, and taxed, which I think a lot of users are missing. So, just because it's not deemed substantial enough for your resume, doesn't mean you avoid paying tax on it. I know that's slightly unrelated to the question, but I thought it was important side note to include.

A lot of freelancers end up signing contracts. So, there's no real distinction due to a contract being present or not. Plus, any work in the eyes of the tax man will be deemed as income, regardless if contracts have been signed or not. So, ultimately it's work in the eyes of the tax man. I personally wouldn't consider it as work, since I'm just doing what I'd be doing if I wasn't get paid for it. So, it's just a benefit for me. Obviously still taxed as above.

Honestly speaking, I'm from a third-world country as well while being involved in a signature campaign. In addition to my day job, I juggle between a few sides to help supplement my income ;)


If one's a community/ social media manager, that'd help alot in their career paths like marketing or PR.

PornHub on the other hand...  let's just save that's for another industry ;D

If I may get you correctly is it that you wanna include your experience here to your CV or what?
Okay if such idea, well what I would love to say is that, including it to your CV is a added value but I think without this forum or outside this forum it could be hard seeing such job opportunity, maybe depending on your country and location because it's not common in my Country.

Then lastly if you are already a freelancer or a content creator I would advise you to sum up your precious job and make a single thread for it at the service sections maybe you could get contacted for job if your services are found valuable and attractive or have a good recommendation from past clients you've worked with. So at this point it doesn't require you to make a CV but to compile your past work and make an original thread for it at service section.

If OP is saying about including anything in their CV, he could mean the campaign managers. Those guys are skilled at what they do.
Their Cv could look like this;
1. I work with spreadsheet and very good at it.
2. I make batch payment to workers using bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies and still manage the volatility of the coins.
3. I manage online  brands and make the brand known in bitcointalk forum and also in other social media platforms like telegram, Facebook, twitter, Reddit etc.
4. I set rules to workers and endure their weekly tasks are completed without reducing standards.
This could make sense, but a signature participant has nothing to add to cv or portfolio.

Well signature campaign poster is not what to be included in his CV because there's no skill attached rather contribution whereas making a constructive post only in the forum. But outside from that if there's any other skills a signature campaign poster could tender to the forum then it's advisable he or she posted it at the service section to get contacted by clients.

if you find someone/group of developers who need marketing, coding, or other parts in service thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0) then you can include your CV on them for their review, but if you just want to join a signature campaign then all you need is the ability to make good original posts.
imo signature campaign can be said is not formal work, it's more towards a side job and you earn from it. the most important thing you have to do right now if you want to rank up is to try to make quality and helpful posts.

Except the company one is applying for a job in is a crypto currency company, if the company is absolutely outside crypto currencies, then I see no need to include the services provided in the service board of this forum in CV.

Though it depends on the type of service though.. Services like :-
-Web/App development and design
-Logo/graphic design
-Management/Marketing and Promotions
-Etc.
All this I mentioned I personally consider them as formal work and can be included in a CV.

But service like :-
-Signature ad campaigns
-Signature designs
-Escrow services
-Adding likes or followers to social media account or posts
-Adding members to social groups like telegram group
-Etc.
All this I mentioned I personally do not consider or see them as formal work and can not or should not be included in a CV.

I don't think it would qualify as formal work because no venting process is done using CVs/resumes and no professional qualification is needed to get you started nor does it come with a job description.

If anything it should be regarded as informal work as it's based on flexible working culture, its pay is tax free, and doesn't go through any government systems and doesn't need any adherence to things such as minimum wage, age restrictions, and other formal job requirements.

But not to say everything on the forum is informal, people do offer professional services which can be categorized as formal work.

Yeah, wouldn't that be awesome?  I worked for PrimeDice, Yobit, 1xbit, secondstrade, and a whole bunch of other crypto projects/exchanges/mixers/whatever, and my references are....anonymous bitcointalk members.  Yep, that'll fly if I'm out there trying to land a job in the real world.

"Forum advertising" is such an oddly unique phenomenon.  It's certainly not a real job and yet I have no doubt whatsoever that there are many people here who support themselves with their earnings--so in that sense it really could be considered real work (but not "formal" like OP phrased it).  And man, when bitcoin was going for $50-60k you could have earned a considerable amount of money just for posting.  If you were in campaigns prior to bitcoin being that high and had saved what you earned, you could have been rich.

Not me, though.  I'm a fuckin' idiot on idiot steroids.

I don’t see the need adding it to your CV. In other cases you can employ the experience you had here in the forum when executing your task in your place of work. This place is more like a school where you get educated and get answers to your questions. Adding your experience here which is not necessary may not give you an upper hand to get the work you’re applying for, but maybe if  the work is related to what you do here, or a position of a manager promoting signatures here, then adding it will give you advantage  to get the job above others.

I would probably keep my personal information away from the forum. Users have registered their own username in here for obvious reasons instead their legal names or anything related.

Plus making SCs to gain reference is like being a mod in Discord and asking your fellow mods to reference you to prospective employers which is not.......credible unless you are indeed a social media manager which I see a lot in freelancing world.

If you are a BM, well that's a different story. It can somehow be a "formal work" of Data Entry.