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This week is the first week for me to be able to follow the signature campaign which is managed by the senior manager of yahoo62278 i.e. Best Crypto Casinos Sig and avatar campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5417131.0). At first glance, there seems to be nothing different about the managed campaigns, but looking more specifically at the Rules section, there is a new rule implemented by yahoo62278, namely "Users must earn 1 merit per week to stay in the campaign".
https://i.postimg.cc/QMSKZ5Yp/1merit.jpg

This becomes a rule that will emphasize the quality of posts and not just how many posts can be made in a week. I myself am not used to getting 1 minute in a week, but this is a new challenge that I need to try, so I will think more about the quality of the posts that will be made rather than just chasing the number of posts.

I observed similar rules were also applied to the previous signature Campaign i.e.
💥WINZ.IO SIG & AVATAR CAMPAIGN💥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5415844.msg61057317) and may be the first rule applied to the campaign signature belongs to yahoo62278.

This will be a rule that automatically selects campaign members and who can earn 1 merit per week for fulfilling the requirements to stay on the campaign.

and finally, I just want to get some good tips from seniors here so that they can get merit in every post that is made, and will the law of reciprocity or mutual support for quality posts with merit also apply?

some of the senior forum members who got the most merit to date, I need to learn from them too.
https://i.postimg.cc/DZggD8LD/most-merit.jpg

Big Thanks to yahoo62278 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355846)

That is a higher standard kind of rule compare to other managers which is something can be pressured to get at least a merit every week.

While it can be a tool for improvements of post quality, on the other hand it will also open for merit exchange or just merit abuse lately.

Merit is in such a way that at least, 1 merit and more would be given in a week to good posters. I do not see anything bad about this. But maybe this may lead to merit abuse.

If there is merit exchange, it does not defeat the purpose of merit system as long as it is sent to a quality posts that are worth it. But very possible this can lead to merit abuse. Anyone abusing the merit wrongly might later be known as he sends merit to unworthy posts.

I have agreed to leave the campaign I am in, managed by him, for two reasons. I don't share his conception of burstposting and I don't like the 1 merit a week rule. On average, I earn much more than 1 merit a week, but I earn merits in a variable way, so there are weeks when I earn no merit at all and others when I earn 30 merits. For me it would be easier to comply with a rule of 20 or 30 merits a month than 1 merit a week. And I wouldn't want to have to ask for a review of my posts because I didn't get any merits that week.

We will have to see over time if this has given way to merit abuse in some cases, but I don't think it is generalized.

The rule it's self is still subjected to change according to Yahoo. And he also offered to do post review for any members that didn't meet the requirement, at least it will help to curb merit sharing. Although this rule will be hard on members that post only on Gambling board since merits are hard to come by on that board

Misuse of services may occur, but if it is intentional it will be easy to detect. but as you said, the exchange of services if it is given to quality posts then it may still be understandable, but not for many services at the same time. In the thread above I also said about the law of reciprocity or mutual support for quality posts with merit.


The decision to leave the campaign is yours. Managers have their own rules and the implementation of new rules by yahoo67228 may change depending on the conditions of the forum. But if it really helps to produce quality posters, it might be applied to all campaigns or just as a backup option. About the burstposting you said, it seems to have done some debate, but either way burstposting is unjustified.


yahoo will certainly take good steps for mutual convenience, This rule is still newly implemented and of course there will be some positive and negative responses and there may be some revisions that yahoo will do. I can only follow the existing rules, although right now I'm still trying to collect merit to fulfill the 1 merit rule per week.

Wait ALL!

Is this me or anyone else is also seeing kamvreto is just making the whole things cheesy?

Fishing has already started 🤣

Just be genuine. You can force yourself to something that you are not used to but later you will go back to your usual. Whatever you are doing now is doing to stay in the campaign and that's where it is not right. You are trying to manipulate the rule in your favor.

is my bait too big and catch everyone's attention 🤣🤣


Just be genuine? I remain original and one's ability and reasoning will certainly develop. when I strive for things I have never done (more precisely, I don't do it often) then there will be some positive efforts that I will do. Become a better forum member and pay attention to every post that is made, even though people disagree and think of me as a big fisherman, I still have the right to develop even though I am still influenced by the rules.

The merits system can certainly be a powerful tool to help fight spam and it is about time campaign managers started using it more. I mean, that is what they are meant for, right? And it is a valid one given that many people are not exactly fond of the idea of reading through countless threads filled with spam. Most signature campaigns require five merits in the last 90 days, which majority of campaign participants can meet with ease, but this is not enough so I support this initiative. I believe that yahoo will not automatically kick out members who do not receive a single merit per week, but I am sure he will pay more attention to them.


Cheesy? I do not know. But it definitely looks like merit fishing.  ;)

See you are now involved in discussion. That's what you do to get things done correctly. There you go with the merit you needed for this week to get paid. But know that consistency is the key. Forum people are more aware about merit fishing than before they were. If you try that path then it won't work.

The first post and the 2nd last post were only to talk cheesy to impress your manager to get his attention (others may have different view).

Cheesy as cheap and unpleasant. It's more like buttering others to achieve his desire.

This board for Reputation right? It is assumed that the narration of topics to complain about something (eg: merit point every week) as long as you support the story there is no need to create a topic here, so the most appropriate place is OFFTOPIC or I forgot something. ???

In general, I see that an account is rarely removed from a signature campaign and therefore adding such a rule will enhance the quality of posts by providing open opportunities every week.

As for misuse, the appropriate rule from my point of view will be as follows:

 - If you do not earn a merit within a week, you will not be paid.
 - If you do not earn a merit within two weeks, you will be removed, or 10 merits per month.

I first noticed this topic in the Meta board, so I think the moderators moved it here. Personally, I have no idea where this discussion best belongs, but it is definitely not for Meta. Maybe Service discussion would be most appropriate... Since we are discussing signature campaigns.

Should this topic have even been created? Did the OP read the campaign thread? If they had then they would have seen


This looks like a merit hunt for me (I think there are better ways to get a merit). I am trying out new rules and if you do not think you can follow them, you shouldn't apply.

*1 merit

Or the creation of unnecessary/rehashed/low-value new topics to farm merits.

Every manager can decide what rule he want to implement and if you think that his created rule didn't is to much then you can free to skip what campaign he manage. Also if you think you are better forum member than any other else maybe just make this rule created by yahoo as a challenge so that you perform more better.

This could lead to merit exchange in some cases but maybe try to look at the bright side since it could push the participants to put more effort on their post.

I had not realized that the OP has been accepted into yahoo62278's campaign.  ???


It will be interesting to see what repercussions the new rules have. Maybe they will have good repercussions and other campaign managers will start implementing them. Or maybe they could, in some cases, have negative consequences such as possible merit abuse or creating pointless threads to try to win the weekly merit.

In any case, we will see.



May I suggest that you make explicit a more concrete definition of what postbursting means to you? In the thread I opened we did not seem to agree. Like saying on your campaing threads: "Posts published within an interval of less than 20 minutes will not be paid." Also, it does not seem that today you have the same idea of postbursting as in that quote of yours that I commented on by PM.

(I had to unignore this section as the thread was moved here btw).

yahoo62278 should consider the innovation of the applied rules. at least now he has seen results in the first week of another campaign (Winz.io).

like some participants who have never asked for a review in a related thread. finally started to have the initiative to dare to ask for a review.
I think the manager of yahoo62278 has a great idea. it only takes a little effort for campaign participants to be able to get at least 1 merit every week.

apart from this, it can trigger abuse of services, After the campaign is over I think this will be a good habit and can be continued by other members. made a pretty good post and asked for a review. in this way, no account will stop at a certain rank.

Cheezy rules

Always made peoples life hard in this forum


I find this rule as pathetic since this could lead for more abuse

Expect for nonsense threads to be created by yahoo's participants.

Probably not. I do not see the point.
But, given how the post ended, I believe the OP wanted to compliment you on your managerial skills.  :D

Feel free to open your own campaign and put the rules you like, otherwise your opinion is pretty worthless to me. That goes for everyone else as well. Make your own campaigns and make your own rules.

Yahoo62278's campaign requires a minimum of 25 posts per week. The 1 Merit requirement is very low, if you can't earn 0.04 Merit per post, you should indeed not be paid for it.

I'm used to getting 10,080 minutes in a week :) Proofreading helps. Properly using the quote-feature also helps.

Costly mistake O0

This is how self entitled person reply

Cheezy as fuck good luck for that feel happy to add some stress on your participants

Why am I not surprised?

Good for yahoo62278 for implementing this; there's been talk over the years about campaign/bounty managers requiring a certain number of merits to get in to the campaign/bounty, but as far as I know there haven't been any real barriers put in place to keep shitposters out.  This is the first I'm hearing of a merit requirement to stay in a campaign.

It's obvious OP is fishing for merits here, so I'd advise people to look at his post and threads like this in that light.  It's not easy for the average person who's on the forum to make money to earn a single merit per week, so I'm expecting there to be more threads like this created by people desperate to stay in any campaign with a rule like yahoo62278's.  

I'm assuming this is the first time there's been a requirement like this, right?  As I said, I've never seen one like it before but I don't pay attention to various campaigns' rules.

And yours is how a child would reply.  Yahoo62278 is being responsible to the forum, and I respect him greatly for that.  Requiring participants to earn a single merit in a week isn't such a sadistic restriction as you make it out to be, nor is he doing it to inconvenience the members in his campaign.

This is what your merit history in the last 120 days, there's a gap where you didn't even any merit in September and 2 weeks in this month which mean 6 weeks, you're already get kicked if you joined the campaign before lol. I'm not sure how you will able to earn one merit in each week, but we will that for few next weeks in the future. I didn't mean to saying this only for you, but I believe there's will be a user in this campaign who using their alt to give 1 merit on their main account in order to stay in the campaign.

yahoo62278 is starting to implement new standards for its campaign rules, it's a right and I don't think this thread is necessary if you are one of the campaign participants. I don't want to overdo it, but if you understand the message in the second post on that campaign thread then you should be fine.


I don't know where the difficulty lies in getting 1 merit/week other than users who don't have good post quality. But for some reasons ^{[subjectivity]} you may find it difficult to get one especially if you post on a board filled with hundreds of spammers every day.

I'd make it some sort of running average though. Maybe 5 or 10 merits over the last 4 weeks. There is a lot of variance in how merits are sent and I can imagine an otherwise decent user falling short of it in one unfortunate week.

For example I earned 10 or so merits on my last 20 posts, so that seems like 0.5 merit per post but only 3 of those 20 posts got merited. I'm quite sure I've had streaks of 25+ posts without merits.

Over a week ago, discussing on my local board on the matter of merits per week, and merely out of statistical curiosity, I took a look at what numbers would look like if we did a retrospective exercise. What I did is take a look at the number of potential forum candidates that had earned at least 1 Merit over the previous week of my mini study, and backtracked if they repeated merit earning over the previous individual weeks, over a 4 week period in total:

 
Note that the above is done from a global perspective, not delimiting the candidates to those actually participating in a given campaign.

Observations:

-     I did not consider Jr. Members.

-   nUsers 1W represents the number of profiles that earn at least 1 Merit over the previous week (back when I did the exercise 10 days or so ago).

-   nUsers 2W represents those that, also earned at least 1 Merit the prior week to week 1, and so forth. nUsers 4W would represent those that earned Merits over 4 consecutive weeks.

-   I did the exercise backwards in time, from 1W to 4W going back in time. Theoretically, to be more precise (from a modelling perspective), I should have selected the candidates that got merited 4 weeks ago, and move forward week by week to see the results. It don’t think it would change the numbers much, but the better approach would have been the latter (I stated off only doing the exercise just covering a single week, but then extended it further back in reverse order for the sake of not redoing stuff).

-   A given campaign may have selected some of the best candidates, and thus have better numbers than the overall numbers shown above. For example, I believe everybody complied with the 1 Merit requirement in the campaign cited here this past week, most without any issue, with a few struggling perhaps a bit.

-   The 1 Merit requirement may push people to improve their posting, and thus the above numbers for a given set of selected people can be bettered due to this factor.

-   The lower the rank though, in general terms, the more difficult it is to reiterate over a 4 week period measuring the 1 Merit requirement weekly. Again, I’m pretty sure that once subject to the rule within a campaign, participants will try to better themselves, thus improving the overall numbers. To what degree I can't tell.

More pressure may result in more merit-whoring threads similar to this one, or attempts to post in more merit-rich boards in general.

I doubt that users would objectively improve the quality of their posts to any significant extent. More likely the campaign would have a higher turnover rate until it (possibly) settles on higher quality users who consistently earn merits.

The rules created for campaign participants quoted in this thread will basically get no complaints from non-participant users. I believe yahoo62278 has selected the best entrants for that campaign so it will naturally end up posting something that makes sense and generates at least 1 merit in a 1 week period.

What I believe is, all participants will probably try to push more quality out of every post they make to earn merit. Some opinions may end up being abused between participants or the alt, but yahoo62278 also seems eager to help its participants review posts for merit. He has said it in the thread:

ok it seems the thread is already full of some comments about the pros and cons of this rule. maybe I can't get merit very easily,

but I try even if someone says I'm "cheezy" or as a fisherman or some other term.

If I don't meet 1 merit per week, it means I really have to improve my posts or ask for reviews on some posts that I think are good.

thanks for all the attention.