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Title: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: BADecker on October 15, 2022, 07:35:29 PM
Trump must be getting too close. Pelosi knows she is going down. So, rather than fight the facts, she is bringing the info out into the open, so they will, hopefully, go easy on her and her family.


IT WAS ALL STAGED! Pelosi Brought in Daughter, Camera Crew to US Capitol Before the Riot, Son-in-Law Was Set Up Outside to Film (https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/333966-2022-10-15-it-was-all-staged.htm)


It was all a setup.

From Ray Epps – to opening the magnetic doors from the inside – to the dozens of fed operatives in the crowd – to Ginger Gun – to firing flash bombs and gas canisters on unsuspecting grandmas and seniors – to the mass arrests of hundreds of innocent Trump supporters who were waved into the US Capitol.

Now we have the proof that it was all a setup and the entire thing was filmed by a pre-staged camera crew.

On Thursday CNN released never-before-seen footage of Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell inside the US Capitol on January 6, 2021 — the two people who refused to call in the National Guard prior to that day and during the rioting.

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What do you know about what lawmakers were doing during the January 6th Capitol attack? See it for yourself in this exclusive Anderson Cooper 360 Special – Never Before Seen Video from January 6th. Live – tonight at 8 p.m. ET

NEVER BEFORE SEEN FOOTAGE - Watch on twitter. (link at the site)

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Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: TwitchySeal on October 16, 2022, 05:31:22 AM
Studies show that only those with IQ scores in the bottom 20% of American General Population click on BADecker fake news links.


Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: White pawn on October 16, 2022, 10:57:27 AM
Yeah, all the violence that took place and defacing of the capitol building were all staged.
It’s a known fact and has been said countless times that only the president has the power to call up the national guard in DC. But you would deny all that and continue to spread propaganda, misinformation and outright lies to suit your narrative


Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: BADecker on October 16, 2022, 05:48:14 PM
Yeah, all the violence that took place and defacing of the capitol building were all staged.
It’s a known fact and has been said countless times that only the president has the power to call up the national guard in DC. But you would deny all that and continue to spread propaganda, misinformation and outright lies to suit your narrative

Paid for by Soros, who paid off a few trained, leader-actors... who gathered a bunch of rabble rousers to do the dirty, capitol work, and entice any unstable mind they could find.

Note that the National Guard was slowed down by Peolsi, who tried to block them entirely.

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Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: Maestro75 on October 16, 2022, 06:53:17 PM
Studies show that only those with IQ scores in the bottom 20% of American General Population click on BADecker fake news links.

I do not know why he did that and I wasted my time clicking on both links, thinking they had something revealing to show to us, especially the video. It was just for click baits he did it. And I guess that crypto site he linked to is his.


Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: BADecker on October 17, 2022, 01:08:10 AM
^^^ Trump made peace around the world. Biden cause the war with Ukraine. You are just another warmonger who would rather have war than peace.

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Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: TwitchySeal on October 17, 2022, 08:30:02 AM
^^^ Trump made peace around the world. Biden cause the war with Ukraine. You are just another warmonger who would rather have war than peace.

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Not just around the world, but also under the sea.

https://i.gyazo.com/4dded1f774037dbdff9bc8cbc6a16460.png


Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: BADecker on October 18, 2022, 04:19:28 PM
Gradually it is coming out into the open that Pelosi was involved directly in promoting the Jan. 6 Capitol riots. Now that these investigations are started, I wonder how long it will take for the American public to understand that Pelosi and loads of Dem leaders are against the USA.


Coincidence? CNN Shows Footage of Provocateur Who Was Filmed by Nancy Pelosi's Daughter (https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/334117-2022-10-18-coincidence-cnn-shows-footage-of-provocateur-who-was-filmed-by.htm)


Epps has long been suspected of being an FBI operative, informant, provocateur, or asset after he faced no repercussions despite being filmed repeatedly encouraging others to engage in criminal activity. People in the crowd called him out and chanted "Fed". Epps has not been arrested or charged for his involvement that day and the FBI has refused to answer whether he works for them. There are still 14,000 hours of footage from January 6 that the Department of Justice won't allow the American people to see, presumably because it would damage its ability to prosecute J6 political prisoners in court.

Why was Pelosi was so prepared for the chaos of this day? She, along with Mayor Bowser, rejected Trump's request for 10,000 National Guard troops.

A familiar face appeared in a CNN propaganda piece aired Thursday that followed House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) during the January 6 protest.

In footage shot by Pelosi daughter Alexandra Pelosi for an HBO documentary, excerpts of which were aired on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 Thursday, provocateur Ray Epps is prominently featured waving a Trump flag and talking on a phone atop a scaffold.

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Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: BADecker on October 23, 2022, 05:02:14 PM
Here is some powerful, bottom-line evidence that completely clears Trump from January 6 wrongdoing. How? By revealing twitter messages, emails and web sites scrubbed from the Internet, that showed who the real perpetrators of Jan. 6 were.


Internet Sting Operation "J6 DELETED" Exposes How Twitter Manipulated Jan. 6 Narrative (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/334378-2022-10-22-internet-sting-operation-j6-deleted-exposes-how-twitter-manipulated-jan.htm)


In 2018, Jason Sullivan—a social media and Twitter specialist—was subpoenaed by the special counsel investigating the now-debunked (https://www.theepochtimes.com/we-are-finally-uncovering-the-center-of-the-scandal-of-the-steele-dossier_4090875.html) theory that Trump was colluding with Russia. Sullivan is now the lead investigative consultant to former President Donald Trump's legal team, via Peter Ticktin. In an exclusive interview with The Epoch Times, Sullivan explains how he discovered evidence of a coordinated operation by influencers and Twitter to set the narrative on Jan. 6, 2021, as events unfolded.

"We've created an algorithm that enables us to determine which tweets are on a trajectory of becoming a viral event," Sullivan explained. "We are watching social media intelligence in real-time, all day, every day, based on specific search terms, key phrases, and hashtags.

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WHY - won't the Capitol Police, the FBI and the J6 Committee release the 14,000+ hours of closed circuit video taken from surveillance cameras located all across capitol grounds?

WHY - won't the FBI tell the American people just how many undercover agents were on capitol grounds and what precisely they were doing?

WHY - won't the FBI tell the American people just how many FBI informants were on capitol grounds who committed crimes of violence?

WHY - won't the J6 Committee show the American people all of the DELETED tweets and exculpatory evidence that is contained in this book? All of the DELETED evidence contained within this book was handed over to the committee back in May of 2022 based upon their own request. Why are they sitting on this evidence?

WARNING: You Are About To Find Out

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Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: OgNasty on October 23, 2022, 05:34:57 PM
I don’t know if I’d go as far as saying it was staged. However it does appear that someone took advantage of a crowd and a lack of security to incite a mob of mostly harmless individuals and frame it as an attack on the capitol. Ray Epps being the obvious culprit of someone’s plan to create an incident where one would not have been. What makes it a horrible catastrophe is that someone lost their life as a result. We may never know the truth about Ray Epps or who is ultimately responsible, but I too believe the people storming the capitol building were pawns and not the orchestrators of the event.


Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: TwitchySeal on October 23, 2022, 08:49:18 PM
I don’t know if I’d go as far as saying it was staged. However it does appear that someone took advantage of a crowd and a lack of security to incite a mob of mostly harmless individuals and frame it as an attack on the capitol. Ray Epps being the obvious culprit of someone’s plan to create an incident where one would not have been. What makes it a horrible catastrophe is that someone lost their life as a result. We may never know the truth about Ray Epps or who is ultimately responsible, but I too believe the people storming the capitol building were pawns and not the orchestrators of the event.

Ray Epps conspiracy theory was debunked long ago.  And I have to say it's one of the dumbest conspiracy theories, even for Trumptards.  Completely baseless.

A bunch of idiots, including you, destroyed the guys life for no reason.  

I know you don't care about the facts as they won't change your mind, and even if they did - your ego would never allow you to admit you're wrong, but for anyone that is interested:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/us/politics/jan-6-conspiracy-theory-ray-epps.html

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/01/jan-6-conspiracy-theory-centers-on-baseless-claim-about-ray-epps/


Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: BADecker on October 23, 2022, 10:57:07 PM
I don’t know if I’d go as far as saying it was staged. However it does appear that someone took advantage of a crowd and a lack of security to incite a mob of mostly harmless individuals and frame it as an attack on the capitol. Ray Epps being the obvious culprit of someone’s plan to create an incident where one would not have been. What makes it a horrible catastrophe is that someone lost their life as a result. We may never know the truth about Ray Epps or who is ultimately responsible, but I too believe the people storming the capitol building were pawns and not the orchestrators of the event.

Ray Epps conspiracy theory was debunked long ago.  And I have to say it's one of the dumbest conspiracy theories, even for Trumptards.  Completely baseless.

A bunch of idiots, including you, destroyed the guys life for no reason.  

I know you don't care about the facts as they won't change your mind, and even if they did - your ego would never allow you to admit you're wrong, but for anyone that is interested:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/us/politics/jan-6-conspiracy-theory-ray-epps.html

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/01/jan-6-conspiracy-theory-centers-on-baseless-claim-about-ray-epps/

You use a couple of fake news capitols of the world for reference against fake news? Mwahahahaha! ;D

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Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: sovie on October 23, 2022, 11:47:13 PM
I don’t know if I’d go as far as saying it was staged. However it does appear that someone took advantage of a crowd and a lack of security to incite a mob of mostly harmless individuals and frame it as an attack on the capitol. Ray Epps being the obvious culprit of someone’s plan to create an incident where one would not have been. What makes it a horrible catastrophe is that someone lost their life as a result. We may never know the truth about Ray Epps or who is ultimately responsible, but I too believe the people storming the capitol building were pawns and not the orchestrators of the event.

Ray Epps conspiracy theory was debunked long ago.  And I have to say it's one of the dumbest conspiracy theories, even for Trumptards.  Completely baseless.

A bunch of idiots, including you, destroyed the guys life for no reason.  

I know you don't care about the facts as they won't change your mind, and even if they did - your ego would never allow you to admit you're wrong, but for anyone that is interested:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/us/politics/jan-6-conspiracy-theory-ray-epps.html

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/01/jan-6-conspiracy-theory-centers-on-baseless-claim-about-ray-epps/
Frankly speaking I didn't understand what OP is trying to say!


Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: TwitchySeal on October 24, 2022, 01:18:48 AM
I don’t know if I’d go as far as saying it was staged. However it does appear that someone took advantage of a crowd and a lack of security to incite a mob of mostly harmless individuals and frame it as an attack on the capitol. Ray Epps being the obvious culprit of someone’s plan to create an incident where one would not have been. What makes it a horrible catastrophe is that someone lost their life as a result. We may never know the truth about Ray Epps or who is ultimately responsible, but I too believe the people storming the capitol building were pawns and not the orchestrators of the event.

Ray Epps conspiracy theory was debunked long ago.  And I have to say it's one of the dumbest conspiracy theories, even for Trumptards.  Completely baseless.

A bunch of idiots, including you, destroyed the guys life for no reason.  

I know you don't care about the facts as they won't change your mind, and even if they did - your ego would never allow you to admit you're wrong, but for anyone that is interested:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/us/politics/jan-6-conspiracy-theory-ray-epps.html

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/01/jan-6-conspiracy-theory-centers-on-baseless-claim-about-ray-epps/

You use a couple of fake news capitols of the world for reference against fake news? Mwahahahaha! ;D

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I remember when you were convinced all the military present at Bidens inauguration were there to arrest Biden and Pelosi so Trump could stay.

Then, when that didn't happen and Biden was inaugurated, you were convinced he wasn't really in DC, he was on a movie set that looked like the White House, the whole thing was staged.

Then, you fell for some convoluted story about how none of the past dozen+ presidents were legitimate because of some technicality and in the Spring Trump would assume power and become the 15th president or something stupid like that.

You think Trump promoted the vaccine knowing it will kill anyone that takes it because that would mean all the democrats will die.

You think the pope was arrested for pedophilia.  

You think the Sandy Hook shooting was staged.  

You don't believe in "germ theory".



Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: BADecker on October 24, 2022, 02:43:45 PM

I remember when you were convinced all the military present at Bidens inauguration were there to arrest Biden and Pelosi so Trump could stay.

Then, when that didn't happen and Biden was inaugurated, you were convinced he wasn't really in DC, he was on a movie set that looked like the White House, the whole thing was staged.

Then, you fell for some convoluted story about how none of the past dozen+ presidents were legitimate because of some technicality and in the Spring Trump would assume power and become the 15th president or something stupid like that.

You think Trump promoted the vaccine knowing it will kill anyone that takes it because that would mean all the democrats will die.

You think the pope was arrested for pedophilia.  

You think the Sandy Hook shooting was staged.  

You don't believe in "germ theory".



You ARE a bit slow, aren't you! You haven't figured out, yet, have you, that I often post sites from people who might think differently than you do. And in keeping with those sites, I add my two cents worth. So, you play around with what other people think in demeaning ways.

For example. Your words, "You don't believe in 'germ theory'," are so misleading. How can anybody NOT believe in germ theory? It's all over the books and Internet, and in the universities and colleges, and loads of other places as well.

The point is, it is "theory." Being theory doesn't make proof for germs true. And it doesn't make proof for germs false. If germs were true, they wouldn't be theory. Being theory shows that the question of germs has not yet been fully and provably answered, yet.

And you shrewdly play this kind of game all over the place.

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Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: Iroh on October 25, 2022, 03:35:41 PM
You ARE a bit slow, aren't you! You haven't figured out, yet, have you, that I often post sites from people who might think differently than you do. And in keeping with those sites, I add my two cents worth. So, you play around with what other people think in demeaning ways.

For example. Your words, "You don't believe in 'germ theory'," are so misleading. How can anybody NOT believe in germ theory? It's all over the books and Internet, and in the universities and colleges, and loads of other places as well.

The point is, it is "theory." Being theory doesn't make proof for germs true. And it doesn't make proof for germs false. If germs were true, they wouldn't be theory. Being theory shows that the question of germs has not yet been fully and provably answered, yet.

And you shrewdly play this kind of game all over the place.

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People do think differently, and that’s why we as humans continue to make technological progress amongst others.
There are opinions and then, there are facts which are ultimately the truth. No evidence points to your claim that it was staged. Was it also staged when Trump literally told his supporters to match to the capitol. Perhaps that was Antifa top secret agents posing as Trump.


Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: BADecker on October 25, 2022, 04:32:21 PM
You ARE a bit slow, aren't you! You haven't figured out, yet, have you, that I often post sites from people who might think differently than you do. And in keeping with those sites, I add my two cents worth. So, you play around with what other people think in demeaning ways.

For example. Your words, "You don't believe in 'germ theory'," are so misleading. How can anybody NOT believe in germ theory? It's all over the books and Internet, and in the universities and colleges, and loads of other places as well.

The point is, it is "theory." Being theory doesn't make proof for germs true. And it doesn't make proof for germs false. If germs were true, they wouldn't be theory. Being theory shows that the question of germs has not yet been fully and provably answered, yet.

And you shrewdly play this kind of game all over the place.

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People do think differently, and that’s why we as humans continue to make technological progress amongst others.
There are opinions and then, there are facts which are ultimately the truth. No evidence points to your claim that it was staged. Was it also staged when Trump literally told his supporters to match to the capitol. Perhaps that was Antifa top secret agents posing as Trump.

Many marches are peaceful. The point isn't the march or who called it. Rather, the points are who turned aspects of the march ugly, and who made up those ugly parts.

Loads of people have been held in government jails for over a year without any proof that they did wrong or were part of the ugliness. This includes Stewart Rhodes, leader of Oathkeepers, who was actually supporting and helping Capitol police during the riots. The obvious answer is that there are a whole bunch of 'ugly' people right in government. And presently, Trump isn't one of them.

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Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: BADecker on October 27, 2022, 03:06:27 PM
The accurate record of all kinds of little wrongdoings of Pelosi is coming out. Trump offered the mayor of DC to request that he call in the National Guard. Without that request, Trump couldn't do it. Pelosi manipulated things so that Trump never received the request. Take a look at article for all kinds of little ways Pelosi and others blocked Trump Jan. 6.


PELOSI COVER UP: Now we know why Democrats lied about Trump's National Guard Offer (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/334602-2022-10-26-pelosi-cover-up-now-we-know-why-democrats-lied-about.htm)


Speaker Nancy Pelosi's Select Committee investigating the January 6th riot, which took place at the US Capitol nearly two years ago, held its last public hearing nearly two weeks go. The committee is exclusively made up of anti-Republican members appointed by the leader of the Democratic Party. In our entire 233 year history operating under the US Constitution, this mono-partisan makeup and appointment has never happened.

No serious lover of law, in either its making or adjudication, would dream up a process of getting to objective facts without an adversarial process in the calling and questioning of documents and witnesses. However, that's exactly what Pelosi, Chairman Bennie Thompson, and Liz Cheney (who has been expelled by voters) have schemed up at great detriment to the republic.

Now, the entire premise of this specially-empowered committee was to "investigate the facts, circumstances, and causes relating to the domestic terrorist attack on the Capitol" and draft legislative recommendations to prevent a future collpase in security.

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Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: TwitchySeal on October 28, 2022, 10:11:08 AM

The committee is exclusively made up of anti-Republican members appointed by the leader of the Democratic Party. In our entire 233 year history operating under the US Constitution, this mono-partisan makeup and appointment has never happened.

Liz Cheney was House Republican conference chair (#2 Republican in congress) on Jan 6.  She's pro life, against Medicare and universal healthcare, pro tax cuts for corporations, cosponsor of the keystone pipeline bill, voted against every gun rights bill put in front of her, the list goes on...  She voted with Trump over 90% of the time while he was president.  But she called Trump out when he tried to overthrow the government, so I guess she's a liberal now.  lol


Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: worldofcoins on November 03, 2022, 10:36:16 AM
Studies show that only those with IQ scores in the bottom 20% of American General Population click on BADecker fake news links.

Indeed there are many suspicious facts related to this due to which violence took place, and all the unexpected events that occurred at that time narrate that everything was staged; but, still, firstly, I would say that violence is not and cannot be the answer also, it's necessary to go for democratizing rather than violence and conspiracy theories.


Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: BADecker on November 03, 2022, 11:52:57 AM

The committee is exclusively made up of anti-Republican members appointed by the leader of the Democratic Party. In our entire 233 year history operating under the US Constitution, this mono-partisan makeup and appointment has never happened.

Liz Cheney was House Republican conference chair (#2 Republican in congress) on Jan 6.  She's pro life, against Medicare and universal healthcare, pro tax cuts for corporations, cosponsor of the keystone pipeline bill, voted against every gun rights bill put in front of her, the list goes on...  She voted with Trump over 90% of the time while he was president.  But she called Trump out when he tried to overthrow the government, so I guess she's a liberal now.  lol

Liberal or not, she is getting paid.     8)


Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: OgNasty on November 05, 2022, 09:21:24 PM
I don’t know if I’d go as far as saying it was staged. However it does appear that someone took advantage of a crowd and a lack of security to incite a mob of mostly harmless individuals and frame it as an attack on the capitol. Ray Epps being the obvious culprit of someone’s plan to create an incident where one would not have been. What makes it a horrible catastrophe is that someone lost their life as a result. We may never know the truth about Ray Epps or who is ultimately responsible, but I too believe the people storming the capitol building were pawns and not the orchestrators of the event.

Ray Epps conspiracy theory was debunked long ago.  And I have to say it's one of the dumbest conspiracy theories, even for Trumptards.  Completely baseless.

A bunch of idiots, including you, destroyed the guys life for no reason.  

I know you don't care about the facts as they won't change your mind, and even if they did - your ego would never allow you to admit you're wrong, but for anyone that is interested:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/us/politics/jan-6-conspiracy-theory-ray-epps.html

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/01/jan-6-conspiracy-theory-centers-on-baseless-claim-about-ray-epps/

One of your links appears to be broken and the other behind a paywall so I’m not sure what exactly you are trying to say about Ray Epps. The video seems to paint a clear picture to me. He was inciting an attack on the Capitol building even while people were actively telling him not to do so. Do you think if Donald Trump was doing what Ray Epps did that liberals wouldn’t be crying to have him jailed?


Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: TwitchySeal on November 05, 2022, 11:05:09 PM
I don’t know if I’d go as far as saying it was staged. However it does appear that someone took advantage of a crowd and a lack of security to incite a mob of mostly harmless individuals and frame it as an attack on the capitol. Ray Epps being the obvious culprit of someone’s plan to create an incident where one would not have been. What makes it a horrible catastrophe is that someone lost their life as a result. We may never know the truth about Ray Epps or who is ultimately responsible, but I too believe the people storming the capitol building were pawns and not the orchestrators of the event.

Ray Epps conspiracy theory was debunked long ago.  And I have to say it's one of the dumbest conspiracy theories, even for Trumptards.  Completely baseless.

A bunch of idiots, including you, destroyed the guys life for no reason.  

I know you don't care about the facts as they won't change your mind, and even if they did - your ego would never allow you to admit you're wrong, but for anyone that is interested:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/us/politics/jan-6-conspiracy-theory-ray-epps.html

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/01/jan-6-conspiracy-theory-centers-on-baseless-claim-about-ray-epps/

One of your links appears to be broken and the other behind a paywall so I’m not sure what exactly you are trying to say about Ray Epps. The video seems to paint a clear picture to me. He was inciting an attack on the Capitol building even while people were actively telling him not to do so. Do you think if Donald Trump was doing what Ray Epps did that liberals wouldn’t be crying to have him jailed?



The fact check link works fine for me https://www.factcheck.org/2022/01/jan-6-conspiracy-theory-centers-on-baseless-claim-about-ray-epps/

I'm sure you can find plenty of other info out there, including interviews he's done and other independent analysis of the evidence if you like.


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Jan. 6 Conspiracy Theory Centers on Baseless Claim About Ray Epps

Quick Take
James Ray Epps was at the Capitol riot on Jan. 6, 2021. But there is no evidence that he was an FBI plant assigned to instigate the riot, as a conspiracy theory — embraced by at least two members of Congress — claims. There is evidence, however, that Epps once held a leadership role in the Oath Keepers, some of whose members have been charged in the attack.

Full Story
Supporters of then-President Donald Trump caused a deadly riot as they tried to stop the certification of electoral votes on Jan. 6, 2021. But some high-profile conservatives have been promoting a conspiracy theory that the violence was, instead, the result of a secret government plot.


Tear gas is fired at supporters of then-President Donald Trump who stormed the United States Capitol building on Jan. 6, 2021. Photo by Evelyn Hockstein/Getty Images.
At the center of the conspiracy theory is James Ray Epps, 60, who owns a wedding venue outside of Phoenix, Arizona.

The FBI added Epps’ picture on Jan. 8 to a list, shared on Twitter, of those it sought for more information about the riot.

On Jan. 11, Epps told the Arizona Republic that he had been there.

Videos on social media from Jan. 5 and 6 also appear to show Epps in Washington, D.C. In one widely viewed video from the night of Jan. 5, Epps tells a crowd, “In fact tomorrow … we need to go into the Capitol.”

When asked about that clip by the Arizona newspaper, Epps said, “The only thing that meant is we would go in the doors like everyone else. It was totally, totally wrong the way they went in.”

A video clip from Jan. 6 shows him near the Capitol as a mob breaks through a police barrier.

These videos and others have been highlighted by Darren Beattie, a former Trump speechwriter, on the right-wing website Revolver. Beattie was fired from his job at the White House in 2018 after his appearance at a conference with a white supremacist two years earlier came to light. He now posts his writing on Revolver and was recently featured in Tucker Carlson’s series about the Jan. 6 riot that aired on Fox News’ streaming service.

Revolver has published two lengthy posts on Epps. The first — headlined, “Meet Ray Epps: The Fed-Protected Provocateur Who Appears To Have Led The Very First 1/6 Attack On The U.S. Capitol” — was posted on Oct. 25. The second — “Meet Ray Epps, Part 2: Damning New Details Emerge Exposing Massive Web Of Unindicted Operators At The Heart Of January 6” — was posted on Dec. 18.

The posts each dissect about a half-dozen video clips that appear to show Epps in Washington, D.C.,  on Jan. 5 or 6 — along with videos and photos showing other people in the crowd near the Capitol who Beattie’s posts claim are linked to Epps. Both posts focus on the fact that the FBI removed Epps’ picture from its wanted list after about six months and suggest that the FBI did this in an effort to cover up something nefarious.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene cited the most recent Revolver post in her appearance on conservative commentator Charlie Kirk’s Dec. 31 podcast, in which Greene and Kirk agreed that the removal of Epps’ picture most likely meant that he was an undercover FBI agent.

Kirk described the inclusion of the picture and its later removal as a “right hand, left hand” issue, meaning that the FBI’s right hand didn’t know what its left hand was doing. He explained that because the operation was so big, the FBI member who posted the picture didn’t know Epps was an agent and someone else in the FBI who did know removed the picture six months later.

“Well, if you’re working undercover, everybody can’t know who you are,” Greene added.

She and Rep. Matt Gaetz also cited the story and showed several videos that were featured in it at a press conference they held Jan. 6 on the first anniversary of the Capitol riot. The two Republicans announced the event after Trump canceled his press conference scheduled for that day.

“We are here to expose the truth, to ask key questions about what happened on Jan. 6 — who animated the violence, the extent to which the federal government may have been involved,” Gaetz said. “We know this — Jan. 6 last year wasn’t an insurrection. No one’s been charged with insurrection. No one has been charged with treason. But it very well may have been a fedsurrection.”

The most recent Revolver post used the same phrase. It said, “If Ray Epps is a Fed, the ‘Insurrection’ becomes the ‘Fedsurrection’ in one fell swoop.”

But neither Greene nor Gaetz produced evidence that Epps works for the federal government. And the fact that his picture was removed from the FBI’s wanted list without having charges filed against him could mean any number of things, two legal experts told us.

The Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol disclosed in a Jan. 11 tweet that it has interviewed Epps, who “informed us he was not employed by, working with, or acting at the direction of any law enforcement agency on Jan 5th or 6th or at any other time.”

Investigation Is a ‘Work in Progress’
If the FBI removes a picture, it means its agents no longer need the public’s assistance in identifying him, Daniel Richman, a former federal prosecutor who was an advisor to former FBI Director James B. Comey, told us in a phone interview.

There are many reasons that the FBI would remove Epps’ photo without filing charges during an ongoing investigation, Richman said, including that he may have spoken to investigators and clarified his role or that he is cooperating with investigators and may implicate others.

“It’s very much a work in progress from the government’s perspective,” said Richman, who also was a consultant to the Department of Justice.

It’s worth noting that Epps’ picture isn’t the only one the FBI has removed. The bureau has also removed photos of individuals numbered 310, 311 and 312, for example. In other cases, the FBI has labeled those in the pictures as having been arrested — individual number 313 is an example of that.

The most common charge for those arrested following Jan. 6 is entering or remaining in a restricted federal building, so it’s also noteworthy that none of the videos included in Revolver’s posts show Epps inside the Capitol building. In fact, two of them appear to show Epps trying to mitigate confrontation between protesters and police outside.

Barbara McQuade, a former U.S. attorney who co-chaired the attorney general’s advisory committee’s terrorism and national security subcommittee, told us something similar to Richman in an email.

“It is quite possible that insufficient evidence exists to charge him with a crime, either because his conduct did not amount to criminal behavior or the facts cannot be proven beyond a reasonable doubt,” she said. “It could also be that he has agreed to cooperate, and so any charges are being deferred until prosecutors are able to assess the value of his cooperation.”

McQuade also noted that inciting violence at a protest would violate the FBI’s Domestic Investigations and Operation Guide, which, she said, “prohibits the FBI from interfering with First Amendment protected activities.”

“It is always possible that an individual agent has violated a policy,” McQuade said, but that agent would be guilty of misconduct if he incited violence and the bureau would be guilty of misconduct if it if it planted an agent to incite violence.

We asked the FBI why Epps’ photo had been removed, but a spokeswoman for the agency declined to comment.

At an Oct. 21 hearing, Rep. Thomas Massie, a Republican from Kentucky, told Attorney General Merrick Garland, “There’s a concern that there were agents of the government, or assets of the government, present on Jan. 5 and Jan. 6 during the protests.” He then showed video of Epps and noted that he hadn’t been charged.

Garland responded, “As I said at the outset, one of the norms of the Justice Department is to not comment on pending investigations.”

We asked the Justice Department if it would be able to comment at this point, but we didn’t get a response.

We also reached out to Epps by phone and email, but didn’t hear back.

But Massie’s suggestion has been echoed by others, including the Daily Wire’s Matt Walsh, who has twice posted a video to social media calling the theory that Epps is a federal agent or asset “credible.”

Onetime Leader of Arizona Oath Keepers
We can’t say exactly what role Epps played during the riot or what he may have told investigators afterward. But this is what we do know about him from publicly available information:

Epps and his wife bought property in Arizona in 2010, according to records from the Maricopa County Assessor’s office. Epps has two limited liability companies registered at that address — one is called Patriot Holdings and the other is called Rocking R Farms. Both were formed in 2011.

The couple first tried farming at the property and then switched to hosting weddings and events in 2019, according to their website for the business.

A reporter for the British newspaper the Daily Mail recently went to the property, but Epps declined to comment on the conspiracy theory. Epps had told the Arizona Republic in its Jan. 11, 2021, story that he had been advised by a lawyer not to comment. We weren’t able to find any public comments from Epps after that story ran.

In photos from the Daily Mail story, Epps is wearing a Marines cap and the first Revolver post says that he served in that branch of the military. A spokesman for the Marines confirmed to us that there is a service record for Epps that matches his name and birthdate, which we got from a Pennsylvania arrest record for trespassing in 2015.

The website for his wedding business says that he spent most of his career in construction.

Epps has also been involved with the Oath Keepers, an organization founded in 2009 that describes itself as defending the U.S. Constitution and says on its website that members “will not obey” orders they deem to be unconstitutional.

The Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League have each classified the Oath Keepers as an anti-government extremist organization.

Members of the Oath Keepers have been charged in what prosecutors allege was a wide-ranging conspiracy to breach the Capitol and stop the counting of electoral votes on Jan. 6.

The organization’s founder, Stewart Rhodes, hasn’t been criminally charged, and a lawyer for one of the defendants in the conspiracy case told the judge in December that the uncertainty over whether or not he will be is hampering her ability to plan for trial.

Update, Jan. 13: On Jan. 13, the Justice Department announced seditious conspiracy charges against Rhodes and 10 members of the Oath Keepers.

The congressional committee investigating the Capitol attack subpoenaed Rhodes on Nov. 23, and he was also named in a civil suit brought by seven officers who were at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

Epps hasn’t been charged with any crimes relating to the riot and we don’t know if he is currently a member of the organization. But in 2011 he was pictured with Rhodes and identified as president of the Oath Keepers’ Arizona chapter on a website called Freedom’s Phoenix. He was also identified as the president of that chapter in a post on the Oath Keepers’ website that year.

Again, we asked him by email about his ties to the group and whether he is currently a member. But he didn’t respond.

So, from what’s publicly available, it appears that Epps is the owner of a wedding venue in Arizona who has been, at least at one point, involved with a group that includes some members who have been charged with conspiring to impede the counting of the electoral votes. We could find no evidence that he has worked for the federal government, but we’ll update this story if more information emerges.

Update, July 14: The New York Times interviewed Epps and reported new information about the timeline for his cooperation with the government. Epps learned from a family member on Jan. 8, 2021, that the FBI was looking for him, according to the Times’ article. “He said he immediately called the bureau’s National Threat Operations Center,” it said, “and his phone records show that he spoke to agents there for nearly an hour.”

The Times also said Epps’ account is supported by transcripts it reviewed of his phone call and a March 2021 discussion Epps had with federal agents.

He told the newspaper that he and his wife have faced death threats over “lies” and that they had to sell their business and their home and move to a new location. They are seeking a lawyer to file defamation suits against people who pushed this conspiracy theory.

Correction, Jan. 13: Matt Walsh hosts a podcast for the Daily Wire. We misidentified the name of the news outlet in our original story.

Update, Jan. 12: An earlier version of this story said the Marines had no record of Epps serving in that branch of the military. After we published our story, a spokesman for the Marines told us he had initially searched for the wrong name but then found a service record for Epps after conducting another search with the correct name. We have updated our story to reflect that.

Update, Jan. 11: The Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol posted its tweet disclosing its interview with Epps shortly after we posted this story. We’ve added it.

Editor’s note: FactCheck.org is one of several organizations working with Facebook to debunk misinformation shared on social media. Our previous stories can be found here.


Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: BADecker on November 07, 2022, 04:07:00 PM
I don't really understand why Pelosi is like this. But, I can guess.

Many people who have figured out how to make loads of money, like the idea and what it means for themselves. The thing that Trump was doing, was a thing that would make America great by the people rather than by the Elite.

Although there are some 'things' in the Constitution and law that are in favor of the Elite, the mass majority of Constitutional 'things' are in favor of the little people. If the little people realized the strength that they have in the Constitution and Amendments, they would rejoice... and take the country back legally and lawfully (not through riots and marches and rallies, etc.).

Trump was waking the people up... maybe by accident. And the Elite don't like that at all.

https://newswithviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Nancy-Pelosi.png


Their Hate Runneth Over and It's In Play for the November Elections (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/335285-2022-11-07-their-hate-runneth-over-and-its-in-play-for-the.htm)


This is exactly what is underlying the entire mess we find ourselves in today. Mindless hatred for our nation and the majority of the people in it is the modus operandi of Washington DC. It directs and controls everything.

A video of Nancy Pelosi taken inside the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, has been released by CNN. It shows the Speaker of the House quite clearly saying that she "hopes he (Trump) will" come inside so she can "punch him out". She says she "will go to jail" for it, but that the personal satisfaction from having been able to perform that infantile act will have been "worth it".

PELOSI ON JAN. 6: "I hope [Trump] comes. I'm gonna punch him out! This is my moment. I've been waiting for this—for trespassing on the Capitol grounds. I'm gonna punch him out and I'm gonna go to jail and I'm gonna be happy." pic.twitter.com/Vnz9yiRf3h

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) October 14, 2022

The above is the link to a Twitter feed, showing Pelosi and her rant. If it's already been taken down, well, THAT's DC in 2022, also.

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Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: BADecker on November 09, 2022, 10:10:17 PM
Turns out that it was the D.C. Mayor working with Pelosi who wouldn't let 20,000 National Guard troops onto Capitol grounds to protect the Capitol from potential rioters.


America's Frontline Doctors founder again tyrannized - in staged embezzlement (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/335453-2022-11-09-americas-frontline-doctors-founder-again-tyrannized-in-staged-embezzlement.htm)


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D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser, as well as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, refused entrance to the 20,000 National Guard troops authorized by President Trump to secure the Capitol during the protest, despite the Capitol Police's intelligence unit having "knowledge of the potential for violence." That refusal left D.C. police woefully understaffed to handle hundreds of thousands of protestors under the best circumstances.

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When each of these government actions led to the police losing control of the crowd, the original venue for Dr. Gold's speech was cordoned off and the only place she could be heard turned out to be a restricted space inside the Capitol building. Though officially restricted, no signs or other warnings that the space was closed to the public were displayed and police officers stood by the open doors without telling the protestors not to enter. Akin to entering a post office after hours and having the guard at the door not mention that the building is closed, those charged with entering a restricted space felt like they were set up.

Dr. Simone Gold spent two months in prison for misdemeanor trespass while delivering a medical freedom speech, despite having received an invitation to speak at a permit-approved  protest event on January 6, 2021, in Washington D.C.

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Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: BADecker on November 20, 2022, 11:27:50 PM
Elon reinstated Trump's twitter account after a 'yes' or 'no' vote was done by twitter members. Looks like the last messages from Trump before he lost his account, were messages directly asking that the protestors at the Capitol remain peaceful.


Sorry Liz Cheney: After Reinstating President Trump's Twitter Account Two of His Tweets from Jan 6 Tell the Real Story (https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/336109-2022-11-20-sorry-liz-cheney-after-reinstating-president-trumps-twitter-account-two.htm)


Last night Elon Musk reinstated President Trump's Twitter account.

This came hours after a poll of Twitter users asked if the 45th president should be reinstated.

More than 15 million people participated in the Twitter poll.

51.8% voted yes and 48.2% voted no (probably mostly bots voted no).

Bots and communists voted no to silence President Trump.

Trump's Twitter account was up and running shortly after Elon Musk agreed to reinstate it.

And since his account was taken down on January 8, 2021, his tweets from that week were the last messages he posted on Twitter before the left silenced him.

And look at what popped up!

President Trump called for protesters to remain peaceful and to stay peaceful.

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Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: TwitchySeal on November 21, 2022, 12:51:17 AM
Elon reinstated Trump's twitter account after a 'yes' or 'no' vote was done by twitter members. Looks like the last messages from Trump before he lost his account, were messages directly asking that the protestors at the Capitol remain peaceful.


Sorry Liz Cheney: After Reinstating President Trump's Twitter Account Two of His Tweets from Jan 6 Tell the Real Story (https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/336109-2022-11-20-sorry-liz-cheney-after-reinstating-president-trumps-twitter-account-two.htm)


Last night Elon Musk reinstated President Trump's Twitter account.

This came hours after a poll of Twitter users asked if the 45th president should be reinstated.

More than 15 million people participated in the Twitter poll.

51.8% voted yes and 48.2% voted no (probably mostly bots voted no).

Bots and communists voted no to silence President Trump.

Trump's Twitter account was up and running shortly after Elon Musk agreed to reinstate it.

And since his account was taken down on January 8, 2021, his tweets from that week were the last messages he posted on Twitter before the left silenced him.

And look at what popped up!

President Trump called for protesters to remain peaceful and to stay peaceful.

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"He tweeted for them to be peaceful so the violence isn't his fault" is almost as dumb of an argument as "his rallies had bigger crowds than biden so the election was obviously rigged"


Title: Re: January 6 was all staged.
Post by: BADecker on November 21, 2022, 02:16:50 AM
Elon reinstated Trump's twitter account after a 'yes' or 'no' vote was done by twitter members. Looks like the last messages from Trump before he lost his account, were messages directly asking that the protestors at the Capitol remain peaceful.


Sorry Liz Cheney: After Reinstating President Trump's Twitter Account Two of His Tweets from Jan 6 Tell the Real Story (https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/336109-2022-11-20-sorry-liz-cheney-after-reinstating-president-trumps-twitter-account-two.htm)


Last night Elon Musk reinstated President Trump's Twitter account.

This came hours after a poll of Twitter users asked if the 45th president should be reinstated.

More than 15 million people participated in the Twitter poll.

51.8% voted yes and 48.2% voted no (probably mostly bots voted no).

Bots and communists voted no to silence President Trump.

Trump's Twitter account was up and running shortly after Elon Musk agreed to reinstate it.

And since his account was taken down on January 8, 2021, his tweets from that week were the last messages he posted on Twitter before the left silenced him.

And look at what popped up!

President Trump called for protesters to remain peaceful and to stay peaceful.

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"He tweeted for them to be peaceful so the violence isn't his fault" is almost as dumb of an argument as "his rallies had bigger crowds than biden so the election was obviously rigged"

Regarding both of those, you are absolutely right... if they were the only things available for basing the conclusions on. As it is, in both cases, those two things are simply strong points that help to make both of them true. Trump won the election, and Trump didn't cause insurrection Jan. 6. In both cases, there were many other points that show Trump's did what was right, and probably righteous.

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