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Title: Stacker news-- A sociopolitical and bitcoin related news website
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on October 18, 2022, 02:46:07 PM
I am not affiliated with Stacker news, nor do I want to seem I advertise them. I have no relation.


Recently, I found out about this hacker-news-like website which drawn my attention. Stacker news (https://stacker.news/) is an open-source project (https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news) that emphasizes on one thing: make blog posts payable in bitcoin. You can buy karma via lightning, and send it over to posts that you think they deserve it. Posters can withdraw their karma in lightning as well. Commenting comes also with a cost (1 sat), and comments can also be rewarded with karma.

The result is to incentivize for quality content, and minimize shitposting / spam. What do you think?


Title: Re: Stacker news-- A sociopolitical and bitcoin related news website
Post by: jackg on October 18, 2022, 02:58:26 PM
Another forum member mentioned it to me a while ago. It's quite a nice site and I get weekly updates from them via email too.

The issue I have is that it looks to be fairly small volume at the moment - or it was when I last went their.

I also haven't posted because I don't know what to expect from the community before I do but maybe that's just me - I've seen quite a few "nice" threads on there (such as people building connections/starting projects and others trying to advertise services which both seem to have gone down quite well with the community - there were more general discussions on the lightning network and bitcoin too and the majority of the content seems focussed on that).


Title: Re: Stacker news-- A sociopolitical and bitcoin related news website
Post by: Bitstar_coin on October 18, 2022, 03:31:47 PM
I am not affiliated with Stacker news, nor do I want to seem I advertise them. I have no relation.


Recently, I found out about this hacker-news-like website which drawn my attention. Stacker news (https://stacker.news/) is an open-source project (https://github.com/stackernews/stacker.news) that emphasizes on one thing: make blog posts payable in bitcoin. You can buy karma via lightning, and send it over to posts that you think they deserve it. Posters can withdraw their karma in lightning as well. Commenting comes also with a cost (1 sat), and comments can also be rewarded with karma.

The result is to incentivize for quality content, and minimize shitposting / spam. What do you think?

I like the phrase 'make blog posts payable in bitcoin' this action will not only reward good posters in the forum but also create additional utility for btc. No doubt it is a great idea and will help in rewarding good content, i think it will also motivate others to enhance their ability to post good content too. To gain a more effective result is when there is no such thing as campaigns, you get rewarded strictly base on the quality of your post, spammers and shit posters will be left with two option, either put some effort to post quality content or voluntarily leave as a result of lack of reward.


Title: Re: Stacker news-- A sociopolitical and bitcoin related news website
Post by: so98nn on October 18, 2022, 03:41:07 PM
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The result is to incentivize for quality content, and minimize shitposting / spam. What do you think?

Ever heard about Steemit?

I feel it is the similar concept and nothing new in that one. The Steemit blogger have been around since many years now but slowly that community was also corrupter and soon peeps found out how to increase the steems and earn tons of money.

When project started, peeps soon broke the code on getting bot votes and everyone started earning nice money irrespective to quality of the blog.

Some went so far that they earns thousands of blog with single blog post by bringing dummies around.


Title: Re: Stacker news-- A sociopolitical and bitcoin related news website
Post by: NotATether on October 18, 2022, 05:08:00 PM
I made a comment (https://stacker.news/items/82895) on Stacker News an hour ago. I promptly received 125 sats for it. So yeah, it checks out.

I connected it via Github, not Lightning (as I am not ready to turn my Electrum wallet into a backup nightmare), so I'll be figuring out how to transfer the sats to a LN wallet, eventually.


Title: Re: Stacker news-- A sociopolitical and bitcoin related news website
Post by: cryptosize on October 18, 2022, 05:10:40 PM
Quality posting content? Sounds interesting.


Title: Re: Stacker news-- A sociopolitical and bitcoin related news website
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on October 18, 2022, 05:13:42 PM
I forgot to say that they're planning to go decentralized:
Next year we plan to begin decentralizing SN on an open peer to peer network.


Title: Re: Stacker news-- A sociopolitical and bitcoin related news website
Post by: NotATether on October 18, 2022, 05:18:11 PM
I forgot to say that they're planning to go decentralized:
Next year we plan to begin decentralizing SN on an open peer to peer network.

How? Are they going to run it on I2P/Tor or on some blockchain such as Ethereum? They never really mentioned any details about that.


Title: Re: Stacker news-- A sociopolitical and bitcoin related news website
Post by: jackg on October 19, 2022, 03:40:25 AM
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The result is to incentivize for quality content, and minimize shitposting / spam. What do you think?

Ever heard about Steemit?

I feel it is the similar concept and nothing new in that one. The Steemit blogger have been around since many years now but slowly that community was also corrupter and soon peeps found out how to increase the steems and earn tons of money.

When project started, peeps soon broke the code on getting bot votes and everyone started earning nice money irrespective to quality of the blog.

Iirc the site offers you the ability to tip authors in bitcoin over the lighting network - I've seen no mention of them having or wanting to create their own currency for doing this or for making an automated system or airdropping funds to users.

I guess the issue I'd see is that commenting only costs 1 sat but that might be a positive thing too (it's not costly enough for it to be seen as spending something but is expensive enough it'll stop spam - especially if they have a good moderation team).

I forgot to say that they're planning to go decentralized:
Next year we plan to begin decentralizing SN on an open peer to peer network.

How? Are they going to run it on I2P/Tor or on some blockchain such as Ethereum? They never really mentioned any details about that.

You read "plan to begin" as "begin". On a serious note, from what they've already built it's probably not hard to get something that's decentralised up and running (especially if you're paying a sat to post - you already have to sign something to do that so identity verification is already done). I could think a list of hosts might be all that's needed to start decentralising (followed by an app in due course).


Title: Re: Stacker news-- A sociopolitical and bitcoin related news website
Post by: kryptqnick on October 19, 2022, 12:07:14 PM
Yeah, the forum reminds me of Steemit. I think I registered there a few years ago, but it never kicked off for me, and then I forgot about that for a long time, until now.
Stacker news looks like a small community, with very tiny tips from what I see so far (probably too tiny to actually be an incentive). I also have mixed feelings about the frequent thunder appearing in the central area from top to bottom. I get it that they use Lightning network, but still, it runs through the text and seems distracting. I'm happy, though, that this community exists and that they're a good use case for LN.


Title: Re: Stacker news-- A sociopolitical and bitcoin related news website
Post by: pooya87 on October 19, 2022, 01:17:59 PM
It is interesting that they are using bitcoin and lightning network but I still think the idea is fundamentally flawed. It is like Steemit and nobody could claim it is a success. The reason in my opinion is that there are already alternatives to this system that don't have the payment factor as "incentive" and they are working fine.
From small Q&A forums like stackoverflow to blog like sites like medium are more popular and I don't see that changing just because they added a payment method on top (still centralized website though).


Title: Re: Stacker news-- A sociopolitical and bitcoin related news website
Post by: nullama on October 19, 2022, 11:35:02 PM
I really like Stacker News.

It feels so fresh and modern, and it has a lot of great people in there.

Early days still, but the main developer there is doing amazing things non-stop.

It feels like the next generation type of websites that are using Bitcoin natively through lightning.

You can login to the site with your lightning wallet, you can tip and receive tips in sats through the comments and threads, natively.

You can also use the built-in lightning wallet to pay lightning invoices of other sites, or to receive sats through lightning.

It also comes with a lightning address by default, for example nullama@stacker.news so you can simply send sats to that address with supported wallets. Perfect for receiving tips for a project or similar, you just leave your lightning address there.

And it's all just so streamlined. You just use the site and everything works.