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I believe that the future of crypto currency is strong and big, I am a long term investment myself but...

There are many posts on this forum saying the crypto bear market is over, some are already saying that a pump is coming.

The truth is they don't know what's coming, bear market can last longer than they think, it will get to the point where many will give up or about to give up before things start changing.

Some holders will get bored and tired.

Some will even start believing that crypto is dead.

We haven't even get to that point yet.

We never have "pumps" we only have "pumps AND dumps" which only happens in altcoins. In which case you should not be an "investor" or a "holder" at all because the pumps always come to an end and are replaced by dumps. ;)

Stick to bitcoin alone...

You do not have to also make a conclusion because your conclusion might be wrong too. If it comes to bitcoin price, short term guess could be right or wrong, but long term guess that is pointing towards mooning and bullish trends are always right.

If anyone is no more believing in bitcoin that its price will increase, such person is likely a newbie that do not check bitcoin price history because if bitcoin price history is analyzed and known, he should know that the price of bitcoin will pump again.

Were you around for previous cycles? You have to be careful about the samples you use when determining if there's fear among investors (you're unlikely to see as much fear around here as you will in places like Twitter and YouTube).

I don't think bitcoin has "died" enough yet though to end the bear market, but what if it doesn't have to? Perhaps not having complete fear will derive greater strength in a rally (though I do think we have further to drop at this point).

Your thread is somewhat decent, something something no one knows what will happen. But at the same time you somewhat give the impression that you know better than others lol. In the end, the "pump" may come tomorrow, or next week, or next month, or next year, or in 5 years, etc etc. Only time will tell.

Believing in whatsoever assumption anyone can cook up will only give a depression for an heart attack with investing on bitcoin, thaat is why it is very important to DYOR all by yourself, if you truly know about bitcoin then you will know what you're in for even when others are saying or seing the contrary, if you must get convinced with by a tangible fact then diviving into the history of bitcoin from previous years could give more insight on how it has been falling and rising back in multiple of folds, the experienced bitcoiners have learnt to pay less attention to news and concentrate on their study and research for possible future prediction on the bitcoin chart.

Don't get confused brother. We only have two market conditions; the bear and bull seasons. Perhaps, it is a cycle - once the bear season is over, the bull season will take over. However, it was not a simple thing to think about, not even have the chance to know when it comes but we are aware of the halving which will change the direction of the market price. It was believed that every 4-year cycle it will change, as we are in bear season this year, it is likely we wait 4 years from now, and that gonna be 2025 we see the market in bullish again. That is why we have to learn to be patient and of course, to keep positive despite the disturbing price movement.

Most of my friends that hop in at the top of the bubbles every 4 years were all out by the time it hit $30K. While it is possible that we may see another leg down before the blast off to the moon, I feel safe saying we’re definitely in an accumulation phase and the smart money is buying BTC here. Historically speaking, this is the time in the cycle when Bitcoin hits bottom, so while I don’t expect history to repeat, it will rhyme. Don’t miss out on accumulating through the bottom year of the market by trying to catch the exact bottom. Stack sats!

Because that's their speculation, so no wonder the saying about the bearish is over and the bulls will come because we don't have a crystal ball so we don't know what will happen in the future, but I quite believe the bulls will definitely come don't be bored until that sign have arrived.

I don't think about their assumptions with those words just more confident in my bitcoin holdings don't get tired of waiting for the right time, because pumps and dumps will always happen this has been a cycle I know it's not surprising when something says bitcoin will die, so to me it's bullshit they don't believe in bitcoin.

Don't be bored, hold bitcoin firmly, it will be beautiful in time.

The trend can change at any time, but right now bear dominates the whole market and we have to deal with that. It’s ok to get bored as long as you are bot losing the money, bear market is the best time to accumulate and it’s good to do this slowly but surely. Bull will still come, time can tell and we can only be ready for that. Many are still focus on the economic situation of US, that affects the whole crypto market.

Not sure what thread or posts you are referring to, but it seems newbies are that one saying that crypto bear is over.


But for those who have seen the bear market in 2018-2020, this is very much similar, with few occasional pumps and then the market will nose dive again. We are lucky that the price is still above $20k'ish right now. But in the last couple of days, the market went from $20,500->$20,100. So that is huge dump already.

Market cap losing its $1 Trillion space again as we are down to $989.45B.

I'm not sure if we can categorically called the last rally a pump, it's just a couple of thousands of dollars being injected to bitcoin to push it to $21k. But after that, it's selling again and the pressure continues to push it further down. And if by chance this continue because of some negative news, when sub $20k is going to be experience again.

So yeah, no one knows what's coming, we don't have the crystal ball to predict the future.

One thing that we can hold though is the historical cycle of bitcoin, now that we are in the middle of the bear zone, don't expect the price go to up. But be positive and take advantage of the current situation and accumulate cheap BTC.

When you do step your foot into this market then these are the points you should be always minding on.

1. Dont make yourself get affected on whatever people around been telling.
2. True holder doesnt really gets bored.
3. Bear or Bull, no one  really knows on what would happen next.
4. You should bare in mind that market is always been unpredictable and totally random.

I don't know what is meant by you when you use the word "Sooner".

Even if it takes 2-3 years for the next bitcoin pump or bull market, it is still considered sooner. No other finical markets give you this return on investments & profits in this little time.

Another example is that you can invest in real estate and hope for good returns in over a decade. Bitcoin market will give you maximum returns in only under 4 years.  :)

Nobody said it was over. There was some speculation and rumors that started when the Bank of Britain and Bank of Japan had to intervene in the markets. Then when bank of Canada raised rates by less than 75bps there was speculation that fed will do the same, they didn’t.

Most likely we might get another leg down and another one after it before we bottom. Nothing has changed and we are still in a time of high inflation.

Things like this are normal and always happen here in crypto, especially this year where the bear market last a little longer. It's normal to be bored and I believe that even the old crypto hodlers do experience this too but they just find ways to entertain themselves outside. They don't really focus in the market because that can affect the way they think and maybe they will sell at loss.

Those who believe that crypto is dead are just newbies or anti cryptos but many of them will change their minds once they see that cryptos are pumping again. For now, you are right op. There is no signs that we are in a bull or the price is going to pump. I don't know why some can say that. Are they doing it for a purpose? Maybe they want to spread positivity.

Cryptocurrencies are a general term and 9 out of 10 altcoins/tokens will fail in the long term and I'm not saying this for nothing, because I've personally witnessed such things from 2014 to the present day. Long-term investing makes sense only if what you are investing in makes sense, and so many people are totally mistaken when they believe that the killer Bitcoin will appear, some still believe in Libra or whatever it is called today...


There are many posts on this forum where some members claim to be Satoshi, or claim that they can influence the price with their posts, or that Bitcoin is a ponzi scheme that will collapse when people stop investing in Bitcoin - does that mean you should trust them? People who persistently say that a new big pump is coming in the middle of a bear market say it mainly for themselves, because weak hands are always weak and they are looking for a reason to comfort themselves, although most of them will not see what they are persistently talking about, because by then they will have already sold everything they have.

You are somewhat right, for those who are just looking for a quick profit, these times are really very frustrating.

Don't get caught by the FUDsters. They will all say bad stuff about cryptocurrencies. As long as you know you invested in the right project or coin then there is nothing to worry about if it is a bear or a bull. It won't matter for a volatile market, all of us don't have any idea where this market will go.
The pump may not come soon but I doubt the bear market could last for years. Soon, it will still happen, we cannot just pinpoint when.

Many investors are already tired and bored with the currently market's conditions, but I believe in times like this they should remember it's not the first time we are living a scenario like this. In 2018 investors were tired and bored as well, without perspectives regards the future of crypto market, however when they least expected the market reacted positively and we saw the best bull run of all times, which culminated in the ATH of 2021.

Now I hope something similar happen once this cycle is over. By there, patience and confidence is needed, indeed.

But I see small pumps already starting to show, particularly on Bitcoin in the previous few days. Even BNB in the last week was pumped up to 15%. I think this is an amazing show. No one gets tired of holding crypto, except for an urgent need that compels them to sell it. I remain optimistic that the price of crypto will rise. Although currently the bear market has no signs of ending.

Forget and ignore what other people say and stick to your point of view. Other people are not responsible for the gains and losses you experience on your investments, so don't take whatever other people say as a guide before you do your own analysis.

Here are some reasons why you shouldn't trust what other people say:


If you like long term investing, then hold to your stance for anything you can afford to lose. You don't have to force yourself to remain a holder if something happens when you're absolutely sure it's the price you deserve.

This is really the case. Indeed, holding is a good option if we are confident that the coin we invest will pump in the future. Why bother ourselves with FUDs and negativity around if we trust our investment? It is literally most people have been influenced by these negative news and FUDs that only creates panic selling and big sell-off. We know the bear season still dominating the market, so if we let out emotions controlled us, surely nothing happen on us but losses.

This is why its really important that you shouldnt really invest on the money which you had borrowed or had some loan or in terms of those emergency funds which it would really lead you into panic sell whenever

you do really need up some funds and this had been the common mistake of someone on why they are making those sells not on the right time due to these circumstances.When it comes to pumps

then it is a usual behavior but we cant really able to determine if this one is the start of the bull run or just simply that ordinary day that we do have on this market.
Everything cant really be predicted this is why its never been good for you to make out conclusions that this market is over.

If you are a long-term investor, then you shouldn't bother with those words even though I haven't seen any thread claiming that the bear market is over. Whether the bear market has ended or when it will end, really doesn't matter to long-term holders.
The truth is that I myself am more of a holder than a trader. I just know that I have a chance to accumulate cheap bitcoins, and I do hope that there will be enough time to fill bitcoin pocket. I don't expect the pump to come suddenly because if it happens I will miss a lot of my plans.

Yes, that's correct. We have no idea whether the bear market has completely left the market or is still holding on in the market. We can only predict what is happening now and draw temporary conclusions even though the market is currently still in a sideways position. And although the price can go up and down, but it is still in a sideways state. So it looks like we still have to be patient to see the bull market come again and we can speculate that the bull market might come in the next year. And if they feel bored and tired of waiting for a bull market, they can leave the market with a fixed position to hold all their coins so that they will not panic at the price movement of each coin.

Crypto which is shitcoins you said above will dead, but Bitcoin wouldn't dead since there's many use case that any shitcoins can't replace or better than Bitcoin. Shitcoins price are depends on Bitcoin, when Bitcoin in bull market, shitcoins price will increase and vice versa. But the thing is when bear market happen, those shitcoins wouldn't survive since they don't have any fundamental, any investors wouldn't interested with shitcoins anymore.

congratulations  to you being a Holder as LONG TERM , this is one best strategy everyone must do unless you are looking for sooner profit.
never rely on how those people says because there are several occasions or maybe most of those does not comply to reality.
those who believes that will happen? they are the one who needs to get out of the market because they don't deserve to be here.

The problem is not that the named shitcoins will die, but that new shitcoins regularly appear and die as well. This cycle will never stop, because it makes a lot of money for the creators of these coins and the market manipulators (exchanges). But not all shitcoins are bad. Some have survived more than one bear market just fine, e.g. XRP, LTC, XMR, ATOM.

The main thing is persistence and determination to keep up with the market even when days are bad and of course when days are good. There are people who stop having that determination and they stop investing or hoping to invest.

The new investors who are coming in with low quality investments often get trapped in the cycle of bull and bear not knowing how to use these times to their advantage.

There lies the difference with big investors who are willing to take their time and keep putting in money at the proper price and time.

The hope to be able to see the market pump is not likely to occur in 2022, until now the market looks very difficult to rise, when prices appear to rise, there will be a selling action that is carried out so that it makes price pressure and fall again.

Big investors have the money to invest whenever they want to, that’s their power. I mean normally many people here live with the money they have, and do not have much to invest aside because they need all their money to survive, our salaries are not enough to live amazingly, it's good enough to survive most of the time but it’s not like we are rich people.

However, rich people could spend 1 million dollars per month to live an amazing life, and could still have some money aside, they could have hundreds of millions, even billions of dollars. That is why they do not care when they are investing, they could buy 50 million dollars worth of bitcoin and put it aside for 20 years and never have to look at it again because they won't need that money anyway.

You are going against your statement. You seem to agree that the price of the market will rise this year but you said "the hope to be able to see the market pump is not likely to occur in 2022".
When the market is in bear, it doesn't mean there won't be any rise/pump in the price of the market although the pump won't last since people will seize the profit opportunity until next month we may see some pump in the price of the market this month.

I think they didn't become rich by accident, they know when to invest and when to sell, so doesn't matter for them if we are in a bull run or bear market, as long as they can double or triple their investment (whichever method they used, they are going to do it.)

As compare to us average joe, sometimes we are reluctant to invest in bear market, but more willing to throw our money when the price is pumping, very wrong mindset to begin with.

There's really a huge comparison into those people who are having lots of money compared into those people who do have only an ample amount of funds to be invested.When you do have much money allocation then

chances for you to have lots of ways or methods could really be there since you could really be that versatile since you do really have the funds on doing so.Incase that they would lost up then they are really getting

used to it and since they do have lots then it wont really be that too painful unlike into someone who do throw out their last chance of funds to make it bigger or to make up some profits then
it would really be just natural that you would really be that too mindful when it comes into your investment decisions.

I find recent action good, dont know about calling it a pump but certainly its a time to be optimistic lest you miss a valid rally.  Theres no gain in refusing to believe the possibility for higher prices, even a 10k gain would be 50% from the lows and perfectly legitimate as a target.   I'd estimate 25k as reasonable but nobody can tell for sure.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/06/12/AIAVo.png

Here is the rough ranges I would guess have restricted us for the last months.  We can regain a higher set of prices and its worth attempting to do so.   Daily bars, blue line is 50 day average if we can see that turn back upwards and continue trend above that measure then even in a setback shorter term we in a wider sense able to gain.

Why, how soon were you expecting it? Honestly, I wasn't anticipating any kind of major improvement in the market before 2024. Look around you: the economy is collapsing, the war is still raging, and it will kneel Europe before Russia does. How can someone expect assets or Bitcoin to boom during this economic recession? Let me also remind you that after Bitcoin crashed somewhere towards the end of 2017, it took more than 3 years to recover. In 2021, despite Covid-19, the economic situation wasn't that awful, nor was there a war in Europe or sanctions in place.

Yeah, a good $25k estimate is not that bad, however, I'm still at fence at it. If we are going to hit it at around December, the rally this November should end up like in the $23k range. And I still believed that it could be a hard target for this month as the price could go on another sideways or the max that we can go is $21k and have a difficult entry to $22k. But let's see, if investors are going to be bullish then nobody can stop that run.

The weak hands will end up quitting, while the strong hands continue to believe and chose to just be patient while waiting for the bullish season. Though it’s not happening sooner but the fact that bitcoin halving will be here by 2024, I guess that’s enough reason not to lost hope and still tighten our faith because in the end, we will see a rainbow after the rain.

Today the market rises more than 6% and is likely to continue to rise because of positive news from many Twitter influencers, even according to the prediction of many experts that the price of November can touch $ 25k, of course this is a good start so that December can rise and reach at least $ 35 K.

Positive news from many twitter influencers?, what is it and who is likely to help the market go up? I believe this rally in the market is due to the news of the employment index released yesterday and a bigger reason is that the US midterm elections are coming up so the market will benefit during this period. I don't think this rally bitcoin can recover to 25k, my target for bitcoin is 22k and then maybe bitcoin will continue to correct back to 20k.

It matters not really whether it is coming or not, if you're holding strong then there's no reason to be afraid of a pump. If it happens then it does, if it doesn't then it's more waiting. If you're at the investing point then it might be time to decide whether to invest or not. Honestly, any point of entry from the past few months are already good, even if it went down you wouldn't lose THAT much compared to an entry at say, $50k.
If all it took were a bunch of influencers to tweet positively about the market, it would've long crashed. Might be for the best to add some proper news outlets from your news sources instead of relying on Twitter influencers for info.

The price of $25K in this month is still very logical to achieve, and it can also be very possible because currently the price of Bitcoin itself is already over $21K so it is not too far away for Bitcoin to be at $25K this month. But for the price of $35K I don't think it will be achieved easily in the next month, because when the price of Bitcoin is already at the level of $25K, there will definitely be some people who let go of Bitcoin to take some profits.

There is no need to worry about just a slight drop in the market because it can still go away with a slight increase in a few hours for Bitcoin. As for buying more when there is another decline, then those who have bought more under $20K, of course, have to first sell the assets that already exist at the current price so as not to suffer losses if they believe there will be another decline in the market in Bitcoin. But for those who have more capital to buy when the Bitcoin price declines again, I think it won't be a problem if you don't sell it at this time.

There will be a need for a bigger news yo hype the market, if there is no news about developments or influencers that can make the price pump we will only just see some market manipulation made by whales in a short period of time which may not be enough to create hypes for the market to pump. We will need to wait more until the war is over, recession os done and the economy is getting well if there will be no news that will occur, we might not see some pump in the near days.

The crypto market has moved from $19k to $21k few weeks ago, show that the bull market is very close to investors, which there are some signs already demonstrating in the crypto market that the bull is very close. I guess, the price of cryptocurrency will reach $40k in this month of November before it will increase to $50k before the end of December so that those that invested a huge amount of money on cryptocurrency will have something special to earn, and to prepare ahead of another bear market.

$40k-$50k by this month is really big to reach. What we experienced is the sideway movement of the market which won't last long. Maybe the price could reach $25k at the days close to year end due to the vacation. It has turned to be very common to experience price pumping at the end of the year. May the same trend can move the market this time.

We can purely relate via numbers to the Dollar index decreasing, its usually the case that this allows BTC and similar higher risk perceived asset to rise.     Also generally I would just describe this period of BTC rising as a relief rally, after a period of selling we can rise just from exhaustion in the order books.   Same dynamic occurs while we rise in price, if there is any lull in buyers available it can be enough for a sell off.   All part of the process, I do hope it builds into a progressive gain but the first part of a gain is down to lack of selling first & later some sellers will appear usually incorrectly to grab only a slightly higher price.

No one has really seen the future, what we are saying here is all based on estimations and assumptions. We have already seen the bear market for a longer period of time, so guess what the pump might come any time. We just need to show more patience and have trust on the market. Meanwhile buy as many coins as you can(specifically bitcoins) in this cheap price, and later when price increases, sell it and get tons of profit.

I really appreciate your optimism but don't take your hopes too seriously because if the market doesn't go as you expect you will be very disappointed. You are the only person I see on this forum with such a bold prediction. It can be said that for the crypto market, anything crazy can happen. But the condition to help bitcoin x2 in 1 month period, we need big news to be able to push bitcoin. All I can think of is news of war, if they declare armistice it will definitely have a huge impact on bitcoin, but that seems unlikely.

Disappointment and being emotional would really be likely or always the case on something who is really that too optimistic towards Bitcoin or simply in the market as a whole.Yes, we know that recovery
or u-turn of events could really happen but we shouldn't really make ourselves anticipate or being hopeful that much because on the time where reality do happens then it would really make you frustrated.
As for OP's point of view for pump isnt coming sooner then it could be possibly yes or not, we could really possibly able to experience very long bearish market or crypto winter
but we should always bare up our minds that this isnt only moving on a single path.There's always a recovery no matter what.

If you check my analysis concerning cryptocurrency volume of increment, you will understand that the increment of cryptocurrency does not be dependable by anybody, it only come when the values rise to a certain level, and it's a determinant of the market that makes the value.

Actually, if we monitor every market change, it will give birth to various assumptions. Positive or negative assumptions, bull or bear assumptions. The assumption comes spontaneously to those asset holders. In this case, who will emerge as the winner? Those who have a strong mentality, those who dare to take decisions, and those who are ready to take any risks. For those who are mentally weak in investing, of course they will not get that opportunity.
For example, if we bought Bitcoin at a price of $19k in september and october, of course in november we already made a profit when a small pump occurred. But for those who were hesitant to buy at $19k, and the market price started to rise, of course the opportunity could not be felt.

It’s certain that the pump isn’t coming anymore this year so as much as possible, we should learn to hold tight from now on. And we really can’t tell when will this pump be seen in the market, as we are still in a bearish market that may even continue until the next year. So patience is the best virtue for now, if you can’t do it, better to leave the market quietly and come back again when you are ready to invest again with high patience. Bitcoin is highly unpredictable, the reason why no one gets to know when to see a pump or a dump.

Facts are sacrosanct and the fact still remains that no one truly knows where the market is headed. Otherwise, the richest person on earth will always be a trader. We can only speculate in this industry. You're of the opinion that the dump is still here and that those who think it's over are wrong. Sadly, you failed to support your position with TA or facts. Well, my expectations for Bitcoin this November is a correction upwards. That we've seen a few days now, except for yesterday and today that it's dipping again.

Maybe in this we agree with you, and I slightly agree with the OP's post, that some existing cryptocurrencies may lose value in the market, given the many conditions that affect them, but for Bitcoin to have different assumptions and predictions, Bitcoin is the best and not there are other cryptocurrencies that can match Bitcoin for now. Regarding November, it is true that there will be a gradual correction to come, but it is not clear how long it will last. Because the current price is still around $32k.

Love it mate , the term from Pump followed by Dump answers it all.



and this , though I also have some altcoins , but majority or 76% of my holdings are bitcoin and the 24% is for other ranking alts that I also use in gambling platform to not spend my Bitcoin holding.

Let's just say the price of Bitcoin will not go past the price of ATH. Will they regret Bitcoin?
Every now and then look at the history of Bitcoin prices from year to year to be able to revive the lost confidence in the future of Bitcoin even if we choose long-term investments in Bitcoin.

Do not hesitate. Read the I AM HODLING (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=375643.0) post written by GameKyuubi on December 18, 2013, 10:03:03 AM

Thinking about crypto like that will have a positive impact on yourself, we realize that currently on the internet of predictions & speculation there are hundreds of crypto experts and users who say so, all crypto users look at the current market development, yes many crypto users think that the bear market is already at a perfect point.

There is no 'but', if you are already investing in crypto for the future, that's the choice of many people today, I also hope you can succeed in investing in the crypto world in the future, basically: principles, commitment, patient, confident and sticking to one goal, crypto always makes its users curious and unexpected.

Speaking of pumps, was wondering what on earth just happened a couple of hours ago? Sold some BTC just before it pumped back to 20.5k, then is now threatening to break 19k floor.

Thought I'd find the answer immediately on forum before wading into... Twitter... didn't find it, then saw the FTX drama reach a Binance conclusion haha.

The crypto market has to overcome a lot of difficulties to improve and thrive in the future, unless we get widespread adoption of Bitcoin in the first place, we will continue to witness this bear market every few years, if global adoption occurs in the future and governments give in to the fait accompli and accept Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies surely then it will We are witnessing a relatively buoyant and stable crypto market, until then we will continue to watch the bear market constantly come back.

Yes, it did go as low as $17,603 as for CMC.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/

I wasnt expecting for this FTX drama could really give out such impact.Price movement is just way too fast.Lucky for those who had made out some short on futures
and lucky for those who had bought on that possible bottom. Cant still be that confident nor really that known if this is the possible bottom
before the price could rise again.

So these kind of events and news arent something shocking or new into this market.Anytime, theres something that could possibly happen.

The change that can abolish, terminate or resist the bearish market is larger investors coming into cryptocurrency, even though give me legalize cryptocurrency across the nations and theirs no mega investors in the cryptocurrency industry, we shall continue to experience the bearish,  so Bitcoin can be corrected or been reversed via the market structure through more investors.

but today? couple of days after your post? the market is down again not only by 6% but higher as it recorded to be double digits .
from 22k now we are sitting at 18k and still dropping so basically that pump isn't coming that soon for our expectations.
there are many investors that only waiting for right timing , meaning they are observing and monitoring the market flow if it is the time to enter or not.

wrong, the market dropped below 18k and that is 17 thousand level is what our bottom this 2022 so with that you already does not have complete idea about the market.
going above 21k or even 22k indeed happened recently , but now we are again falling and seems to be dropping to 17k again?
I hate seeing this but we must admit this happening.

Yeah, had heard some of the drama, didn't expect it to hit so hard. And re bottom, honestly hard to tell, my sense is that it's not going to have a lasting impact unless it causes a domino effect (the way Luna did on others). Market was otherwise stable, even better even with bad inflation numbers from US, so this should just be a jump scare. Not betting on it though.

Currently, the price is at $17k (again) and it looks like it will continue to decline steadily. And if I'm not mistaken, the price dropped to $16k because I saw that was the price listed on Binance. And for the current situation, if the price goes back to $16k, that's a good time to buy bitcoins again.

We all hate to see this but we can do nothing but follow what is happening in the market and use it to our advantage. But this is only temporary because the current situation will turn around and that's when the price will start rising again.

I don't think the market has stabilized yet and we will most likely see even lower prices in the close of the year. I have just impacted liquidation and events were unpleasant for me. it's an unexpected drop coming so quickly and I think the big impact is that FTX went bankrupt this is what worries Holders so they are swapping btc to usdt. I did a second entry at 15k, 16k, even that was better than the rush. maybe in this month I hope there will be a big pump coming and btc can go back up to 20k this month.