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Invest bitcoin without expecting the bull market at any given time.  Bitcoin is volatile and a decentralized  currency which the bearish and bull market can occur without anyone knowing.  When investing Bitcoin  and expect to gain profits in a given time and what is expected to happen in the market turns to be something else, it can automatically make one to feel emotional. 

When Bitcoin is invested with a free mind  without expecting When to make profit in a predicted time, it gives fate to keep hodling till anytime bull market occur.

If you want to have success in your investments,  you should never try to predict anything.

Predictions are basically all wrong. Nobody knows the future.

So, just buy bitcoin for the long run and do ot try to predict the price for next year. Do not try to make an easy and quick buck, but most of times this fails.

Thats right. Dont expect and you dont need to worry for your investment. When it says invest, you are willing to wait for a longer period before you can appreciate your money. Most of the traders and investors are sometime very inpatient when it comes to this ending up losing at a panic selling situation when the market suddenly crash.

That's right, but investing without planning is completely wrong, especially if you involve big money.
It's not about the bitcoins, but the money you're involved in whether you plan something with it at any given time. Because when you withdraw your investment at a time that is not as expected, then you will lose some of it.

Sometimes it is not a reality to invest in bitcoin but expect at a certain time and obviously the bitcoin market is very volatile so this causes the market to change at any time.
Still investing, there must be a more mature plan I did that and there is no way I will continue to predict the price of bitcoin every time because I know bitcoin is not a place to get rich quick but there will be times when we can make profits at the right time but it takes time long.
I have a belief that bitcoin is a good place to invest in the long term and there is no need to expect too much. I do not think about all that is happening but focus more on getting bitcoins as long as we buy when the price drops.

You should believe in Bitcoin halvings and its history will repeat itself with each halving.

You should not predict when price will start a new bull run because you will likely fail. If you have your prediction and sell your house to bet with it, what will you have if your bet fails?

When you expect accuracy from your prediction, you will create pressure on yourself that is not good. Pressure will result in bad decision and you will response more emotionally with market changes.

Each cycle can be longer or shorter than past cycles but I really believe Bitcoin halvings will continue to help price moving up.

Just hold it as is.

Bitcoin is the asset for which you will be expecting something in return in the future. But for how long? It's better not to anticipate that much and just leave it there.

Look everytime you see the market is growing and don't look when everything is dropping. Unlike any other assets, you don't know if they'll be worth to hold but with bitcoin, you're guaranteed that it's one of the best assets that you'll own in these times where everything is becoming on the internet and digitalized.

The past is not the best indicator that some things will happen in the future, but Bitcoin has followed a certain pattern so far in that the biggest bull runs have happened in the post-halving period, and I see no reason why that pattern will not repeat itself in 2024. Of course, this cannot be a solid basis for investment, but given that we know how most people think and that they are only interested in profit in the short term, they should pay special attention to halving.

Of course, it is best to invest only as much as we are ready to lose and not be burdened by some kind of time limit in which something must happen, but that is much easier said than done.

No, you could actually make an investment with bitcoin and still considers the bullrun because every investors are there to make profits and part of the parameters you read is the target on bullrun, so we cannot be totally in exception for this even though our predictions may sometimes be inaccurate.


This is true and that's why we advise buying when it's kow and hold till the orice surges, no one knows the exact time or day but we can make a prediction close to the happenings considering some bitcoin event calender and having a good speculation on the price trend since last ATH.

Prediction without any basis is wrong. On the other hand, forecasting the market with the use of different tools and methodologies helps someone in his/her decision towards the decision whether it is time or it is not the time to invest.
Moreover, remember that we should not depend on anyone's prediction of the market. This probably is one of the most common mistake people have done in their early days of trading.

The word called as investment means you want to make some profit in the process of doing that whether it is in stock or cryptocurrency and if you say don't look at price and invest anytime, it is wrong. I don't agree to it to invest without having mind for making profit to it. Nobody investing without wanting to make profit. The investor buying high regret to buy at high and buying low is for the process of profit. Some investors have a DCA system and that is for profit.

If you want to invest then you are clearly thinking of earning profit from it. However, if you are going to invest and predict something then ot would only bring huge dismay for predicting good results but it didn't go as you have predicted which means it will only bring bad news and worst feeling that you will felt. I have done the same before where I expect something that will make me earn profit but it didn't go as planned compared to what I just felt doing didn't even expected that I will get 5+ ETH at that time and also received 0.001+ BTC as a tip from helping someone.

Usually in my own part, I just think that I lost that portion of my money before committing fully into it. I just do not care if it is really going to make me rich in x days/months/years or so. I just let it slide at the time being for now and go from there once it takes off.

Shitcoins are another type of story though that I would not bother re-echoing my horror story from. Bull market or nah, they are not something that I just took a lot of time to decide whether to invest to it or nah.

I would like to say that it's not a good idea to invest without any prediction. If you want to be successful in investing, it is necessary for you to predict the future market trends and make decisions based on those predictions.

I'm trying to collect the information from everywhere and from different sources and then try to put them together to make a prediction. It is not easy, but it's not impossible. There are many factors that can affect the price of any cryptocurrency and we cannot predict those factors with 100% accuracy. But we can make an educated guess. The key here is to stay updated with the latest news, research and trends so that you can avoid making any wrong decisions. It is very important to make the right prediction in order to invest successfully. If you don't know about the market or you don't have any idea about what kind of coin you want to invest, then it's better to stay away from it. Don't think that you can get rich overnight just because a friend of yours has made some money with cryptocurrencies. It doesn't work like that and if you don't know anything about the market, then it would be better if you stayed away from it.

Well even if you expect the bull run it doesn’t make the bull run comes faster so it’s of no use. Investing in Crypto-currency mostly frustrate short period investors, investing in Crypto-currency (Altcoin) for a short time trying to maximize the buy low and sell high in a short period theory does not work all the time rather you may sell them some dollars lower than you purchases.

I am in no position in advising on Altcoin especially those low market cap ones because I don’t believe in them. But a good strategy in Crypto-currency investment is long term, but it would work specially if you have considered other essential strategies.

Those who have the mindset of waiting for the dip before they would invest in crypto or stock up there crypto portfolio just might be those that allows procrastination to creep in the way of some cool investments they could have made.

I don't dispute the fact that, buying during the bear marketor at a dip is some of the best ways to get the most out of your crypto investment when the bulls comes but, the next you would know is that, you've created a room for procrastination and might never get to invest. Should Should bull market even materialise, you might not have the resources to invest or perhaps would be waiting on a dip you can't predict.

buy gradually for the long term, that's the same as doing the DCA strategy so that it doesn't matter what the current price is, keep buying in stages with a predetermined amount. But when you just buy without expecting a bull market that's pretty hypocritical, you'd expect a bull market to come soon. Predictions are made to find out how close the market is to being bullish or bearish so you have preparations before it happens. Everything is destiny, but effort is also very necessary, there is technical knowledge that can be used if you are a trader.

I have seen lot's of people predicting that next bitcoin bull run is going to be by 2024, but I don't believe that, I think nobody is sure about when the bull run will start, it can happen at any moment, when making investment, we should invest freely and we shouldn't be predicting when we are going to make profit, just take your profit whenever it comes. Some people that have been hearing about bull run by 2024, if bull run those not happen by 2024 they will definitely be disappointed. When investing just have it in mind that anything can happen to the market at any time.

Invest with bitcoin for long term, and go with long term goals so you can’t be easily pressured every time bitcoin price crashes. Otherwise, if you are just investing for quick profits, you will lose the long term profits expected for bitcoin, and will possibly gain only small amount of profits. And the fact that bitcoin is very volatile, then you can’t expect for bitcoin to keep on surging its price but most likely, the price will be very unstable and will only recover once the market becomes stable again.

It is not wise to invest based solely on the fact that there will be a reward halving in the future. However, it is a good risk to take as long as you are aware of the risk involved. The value of Bitcoin surged after its previous three halvings. Though this cannot guarantee similar returns, we can expect something similar in the run up to next halving, albeit with lower gains due to increased awareness.

Maybe this is when someone who is new to the world of crypto and doesn't know what bearish and bullish cycles are, maybe it will happen like this, emotional. Especially if they are targeting long-term investment for 10 years. it turns out that during the 10th year, the market was in a very dire condition, so their investment might only get a little profit or even loss. Indeed, I agree to know the bearish market phase and also the bullish phase. So that we as investors have an idea of how many years from now to invest in crypto. Is it to reach 2x bullish or something else?

predict the price of bitcoin like we are placing a bet. it may be right, it may also be wrong. predictions will be better used for those who trade.
whereas for those who make long-term investment plans, price and time predictions, of course, are only limited to market analysis.
However, investing also requires planning. it helps us to be able to decide when to get out of our investment. if the plan doesn't match, of course, we can update with another plan.

I invest in bitcoin, of course, with the hope of getting maximum profit one day, but I never predict when this will happen (bull market). because I think when we enter to invest in the long term we only need to analyze to the maximum at the beginning before we enter, see the potential and further fundamentals then we choose to believe or not with our analysis. if we believe in analysis and see the potential in the future, then we can enter for long-term investment. but predicting when the price will go up / determining what year it will go up will only make our minds disturbed, so that in the end we become emotionally unstable when our predictions are wrong. so just buy and hold.

I have a different approach regarding investing, but OP's idea is not bad at all, we have our own way and strategies my idea of investing in bitcoin is like this, learn first what affects the value of bitcoin and how news and FUD affect this in this way, you don't have to waste time, and let your money stay there for a while since if you let your money sits there, you missed other opportunities along the way, the most important thing is learning first how situation change with cryptocurrencies the more information we have the lesser the risk I think, in this way we can maximize the resources that we have.

If you want to invest a bitcoin you have a bitcoin this is 1:1 it depends on you how long do you take to hold those coins, people keep investing in bitcoin because they see the potential of it in the future not only just an investment, right now the market is sitting with the 15-20k market price and its ideal to make an investment and hold for the long term so you an make a good profit, some people want to wait for the lowering the price as we see during March 2019 that the bitcoin touches in 3k price if you are a newbie and don't have the knowledge yet in bitcoin try to understand the basic trading pattern so you can get an idea when to buy but if you are seeking for a long term its good to accumulate as possible. Always invest what you afford to lose.

To have free mind in bitcoin investment is for you not to predict the price of Bitcoin in future. Predicting the price Bitcoin may lead you  sometime to stupid stuffs like investing all asset in bitcoin or even borrowing of money to invest in it just because you have predicted the time that you will take your profit, not knowing that anything that happen because Bitcoin is volatile,the price can change anything. So it is better to continue investing in bitcoin by buying it always whenever you have money.

Many people are now thinking about how to invest in Bitcoin by 2023 just because the bull run market which people are predicted that is coming in 2024, investing with this types of aim may lead to disappointment because it may not that actually happen in 2024, it may be in 2025. I have learned so many things in this recently bear market because I never believe that Bitcoin market will come down like this. But I still believe the bullrun is coming and that is why I am not frustrated but I don't predict actually

So true, Predicting the price is like Predicting a bet, so far as bitcoin is profitable in a longterm investment,  what is good to do is to invest and never think of a specific time which the market will bring profit. It is normal we always imagine the bull in our head but it will be better if investors shouldn't allow the imagination of bull coming anytime soon as something that will certainly take place. The market price of bitcoin at all time happens unexpected,  so I expect investor to know that the bull market will definitely come but not to predict and give a specific time for the bull market to come.

invest without thinking about profits and losses, in bearish or bullish market conditions, of course, you have to use money that you won't use for anything. because if the investment is used for the long term you have to hold for a long period of time or according to the price you have targeted. Imagining about the upcoming bull market may be helpful, as much as possible to avoid panic when the market falls again. If you have spare cash, add assets at a lower price. after the bear market will come the bull market that's for sure.

Invest without expecting quick profits in time should always be our mindset particularly in cryptocurrency where everything seems unpredictable and that we don’t have assurance when will bear or bull market comes in. Especially in bitcoin where it should be a long term investment since it has high volatility. Today, the price might be surging but tomorrow it will drop suddenly. So invest in bitcoin without expecting quick returns.

Well "all asset" is kind of exaggerated to say the least. It is okay if you invest all your intended investment in Bitcoin if that's what you actually mean, though I am not sure of some people's reasoning of borrowing money just to invest it to crypto. I would never ever think of doing that ever as it is not worth in my end to just get a profit from crypto and using those to pay my borrowed money.

Bull run can come at any time, so just either hold or buy during these days. It is even lower from what was aimed ATH back in 2017.

You are right, all funds used on exchanges for long and short term investment purposes are not allocated for main purposes, so we need financial management, if we have allocated money for long term assets then we don't need to worry about the effects of crypto market movements for the long term even though the movement pattern is not as expected in the following year, there is no panic to cut loss because during the bullish phase the price recovery will increase significantly.

I think it's only applicable to newbies who has doubts about the future of Bitcoin or their investment but if you are in this market for a long time, you know when to buy and when to sell to maximize your investment and profit.

It's normal expect/predict when is the bull run to make profit but for those who just wants the profit after investing I think they aren't really into Bitcoin but only after for the profit for a short time which isn't right. Investing in Bitcoin will always take a long time to make a profit unless if they think this is the same with most shit coins they think that could make profit for a short time.

If this happens, doesn't that mean we don't have a specific target? I prefer to create a target in several stages. So that we can have a plan at what rate we will sell the Bitcoin. This is like the DCA system when buying Bitcoin in this bearish era by taking advantage of each certain rate or decrease. And we can set a certain price at several rates. With a certain amount, the price difference between the bearish and bullish times is of course very significant and can provide quite good profits. Thus, the buying period in the bearish era and planning sales in the bullish era can provide quite good results. Of course, maybe sometimes our target misses the plan. Therefore, we don't have to just set 1 rate, but several target prices. And what's more, during the bullish era, we still have to monitor market conditions at that time. There will definitely be a risk, but it will depend on how we can manage the risk itself with the most suitable strategy for us, won't it?

A big mistake some fresh people to bitcoins make is having big expectations about making profit in a short time. I will not blame them, they maybe we're not properly informed. Invest in bitcoins with low or no expectations of making profit in a hurry to avoid huge disappointments that can make you to quit or leave bitcoin and rethink investing in another thing. Your personal predictions about the bull can still be wrong , but the bull must come, so invest and wait patiently.

Sometimes the main reason why people are so desperate in expectation of profit is when they invest money they can't afford to lose, their expectation gets so high just to get profit, and nor having knowledge about bitcoin how volatility of bitcoin happens without nobody expecting it can make one feel like Predicting the bull can will happen just as it is Predicting, having so much confidence in the market. Personal thought about the bull can always fail, it shouldn't be taken serious.

price recovery is something that will definitely happen, you just need to do financial management and practice being patient until the main target is achieved. the bull time will surely come after the bearish market. long-term investments will provide many benefits if done correctly, as well as short-term investments.

From my knowledge it's very common to understand the bear and the bull season, looking the current market conditions it's obvious that the market is in bear season which if you wanna make your investment it can be considered as the right time because making investment whenever the market seems to be all green is not actually right time so it would like fall back whereby you could kept regretting for making investment at that point. Lastly, know what you want and know what you need. Therefore what I meant is that before an investors would eventually venture into a business he knows what he is going to benefit from the investment. Otherwise I can say before you buying BTC it's assumed that you want a profits which is defined by your investment strategy to be long term or short terms investment to determine your profits.

Part of what has attracted me to bitcoins is that the price is low this period, I am not in a hurry to make profit, I know it will take time, and i am willing to wait.

Invest without predicting a time of bull run/market- precisely in times like these crypto winters is exactly when to scoop up Bitcoin at a bargain with no need for prediction of the bull run.  If you can weather the storm, you will be in an excellent position once the winter is over.