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Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Collect BTC at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

This is good decision, buy when the other fears since it make Bitcoin price is cheaper. Since Bitcoin has survive for multiple big crash and FUDs around of mining until now, there's only a tiny chance Bitcoin would die, this mean Bitcoin will likely to recover and create new ATH after the market already back.

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Collect potential Alts Bear market.

This is a bad decision, there's many alts will become a dead coin during bear market. There's no such potential alts, a scam alts can have an interesting whitepaper and have a good roadmap in order to trick investors.

I guess it is too limited to categorize everybody in cryptocurrency as either traders or investors. It's as if cryptocurrency is not a currency at all. It's like treating cryptocurrency as stocks. I guess this is a wrong perception of cryptocurrency.

Bitcoin, for example, is a currency that gives us freedom from banks and other third parties, a currency that requires no trust. Bitcoin is a transparent, immutable, and censor-proof currency. And it is very possible that many are drawn into Bitcoin not because they want to trade or invest in it but because the features somehow empower them.

Anyway, in terms of investment strategy, HODL is the best for me. And if you have the extra money every now and then, you can also buy the dips.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

so lets share your belives on strategies.

Here is a thought for you ,
the BTC price verse fiat only got so high because of trillion$ of venture capital money flowing into the industry.
The baby boomer generation is now retiring in mass, a side effect to that is people switch to safer more stable cash and completely eliminate risky speculative investments like btc & btc miners.

So thinking the old pattern of BTC skyrocketing in price verses fiat every few years, without massive VC money that pattern is on very shaky ground.

Past Performance is no guarantee of Future Profits.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Dear All

There are two bodies in crypto, Traders, and investors. Today's topic is for investors. Specially very longterm investors. There are investing strategies for everyone. Share your ones.

Most common and sometimes I adhere

Collect BTC at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

Collect potential Alts Bear market.

so lets share your belives on strategies.

There are also participants of projects; both campaigns and air drops. They are also a part of this industry as well as gamblers (which are also included because they are using cryptocurrencies on their transactions). But in terms of investment strategies you could also add scalping wherein a trader/investor would jump on a particular price (regardless if it is bear or bullish run) as long as there is a potential market price movement. Pointing here that we may have different market strategies but having the same goal which is to earn profit. Unfortunately, the idea of profit is being too emphasized towards non-crypto users which makes them unrealistic of how money is being 'created' in this industry.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Collect potential Alts Bear market.

This is suppose to be one of the best investment strategy because you buy cheap and accumulate large unit of coins but many have tried it without success. After buying those altcoins, they start to drop and you realize you have lost more of the value when you decide to resell.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Collect BTC at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

Yeah btc hodling still looking nice. Hodl in your private wallet. They say generally not your keys not your coins.

I mean this is okay strategy for bitcoin but I don’t think Altcoins stand a chance in my portfolio this year. Considering the blood bath we seeing here I am pretty sure alts will take little longer to revive from the after shock of the market. Let us not forget we are also moving towards more harder recession world wide which is going to shock the market one more time and have bad effects on the investment that we make today. Yes buying while the market is down is perfect plan but it’s sharpen plan when you buy the right coin, in this case - bitcoin.

If you want to invest, it is better to go for bitcoin, but you may want to gamble by going for altcoins because they do increase in price more during bull run, because of this, investing on altcoins is not bad, but do take note that there are some that are shit coins, some may not increase like expected while some remain shit coins, some also may decrease when others are increasing. Because of that, the best to invest on is bitcoin, but not bad to make good research on some better altcoins and allocate like 30% of your money that you want to invest on crypto on them while the 70% can be allocated on bitcoin investment. For investment, I will advice DCA.

Quote from: mk4 on November 27, 2022, 06:47:03 AM

Easy: dollar-cost averaging bitcoin for years and years

Intermediate: do heavy research on crypto narratives that would likely go hot, and wisely pick likely-undervalued coins/tokens in that category.

I’ll go for the easiest option and buy only the top coins.
It’s bear market, and its good to practice cost averaging, I’m doing for months now and separate funds weekly to buy and hold until the next bull run.

Having a lot of patiences can also be a big help, because long term holding might not be guaranteed and we don’t know when is the next bull run. This is a simple strategy yet very effective on any market, its about delayed gratification and patience.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Collect potential Alts Bear market.

Some may really be good to be collected and yes, just do it only with the ones that has the potential because I've seen with the many that they're doing it wrong.

Every time someone calls that it's a good coin with a potential, they're all rushing to buy it without any single doubt of trying to learn what's with it and if it's really true.

But to remind, not all alts that have soared during the bull run could show the same results and be back again.

Investing at the dip or at the bottom is good and it is the best strategy to profit out of any investment. Here we don't know which is the bottom price. To identify it, we need to observe the market very close. Even at such situation we fail, because of the market turning unpredictable in no time.

Long term Crypto winning is possible through the investment done through dollar cost average method. Next is the patience, if we've understood the market and entered at the wrong time we should have the patience to experience the profit.

Be careful on collecting potential altcoins, because might you will fall into their trap, tested and top altcoins in the crypto market cap would be better but still, it's crucial to invest. I would stick on investing in Bitcoin and hold it in a long term, it's been proven so many years that it has more potential than the altcoins and when the halving comes of Bitcoin, it's anticipated that there's a new ATH will come that is worth it if you're waiting in a long run.

Collecting Bitcoin at deep dips are pretty good practice or continue doing it in a DCA way which is very ideal when it comes to increasing your portfolio.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Most common and sometimes I adhere

Collect BTC at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

Collect potential Alts Bear market.
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Easy to say but this is very difficult to execute. As an investor, it's very difficult because it needs risk too, time and patience. So for me, investing is like trading also, the risk is always there.
Also, if you are just a small investor, then buy Bitcoin or other altcoins and forget it like waiting for a very long term before taking profits and not checking always the price of it will help you.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Any funds am having and am not using for now I always use it buy bitcoin, I have heard lot's of people saying that bitcoin is going to die but i just shake my head and smile, it's better we are not deceived by what people say, if you want to invest in bitcon then I think you should do that now, some people are waiting for the market to crash more, but it might not happen, since you are holding for long term then I think if you buy bitcoin now even if it dumps more you won't really be affected because you are not a day trader.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Collect potential Alts Bear market.

You started everything very well but the last advice which you give is very wrong, altcoins can fail you at any moment so I don't encourage people to invest in altcoins, if you want to make a safe investment then you should go for bitcoin and not altcoins.

Well, it's always tempting to ride a wave and make a quick buck in the short term. But I believe that there is no better proof than personal experience. I'm more into the fundamentals like BTC, ETH and BNB.

Yes this can be seen Bitcoin's Bear Market vs Altcoin Bear Markets, The fact that many altcoins can be pumped and dumped on any given day only adds to the problem. As soon as a group of people started throwing away a single coin, investors started to panic sell off, further reducing the value of each coin until it was nearly worthless. even more so if you don't see short term volatility and hold on to the coin for the long term.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

No other better or even the best strategy other than Buying the Dip and Selling high.
Perhaps, the idea has existed many years ago and it is even applied outside crypto meaning that it was an effective and profitable strategy ever. But what it really happens, it is very unfortunate that many people are impatient, they wanted instant making them instead of waiting the high price, they sell them at low which it turns out that; Buy Low, Sell Low. They have make themselves as a loser of not following the golden rule of investment.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Collect potential Alts Bear market.

This could go horribly wrong as altcoins can dip further. Altcoins can also vanish from the market as we have seen with some of the altcoins that their founder has exit scam after the pressure of the bear market was too much on them.
In the bear market, Bitcoin is the safest coin to buy as even though it dip further, you're guarantee of an increase when the bull market returns because Bitcoin won't vanish from the market as other altcoins are doing.
Altcoins should be bought when the market is recovering as then you'll be assured of the projects that'll be around the next bull market and it prevents you from buying projects that'll die in the bear market.

Quote from: Lubang Bawah on November 28, 2022, 10:42:24 AM

In my opinion the best strategy for Hold Top Coins such as Bitcoin, ETH, BNB and others is long -term hold, I'm sure the market will continue to grow so that with strong coins and hold for long term, we have the opportunity to get large profits. Whereas daily trading is great for new listed coins.

On my own, I will not choose BNB as the top altcoin --this coin relies on the Binance exchange that I think will collapse in the future as people are now afraid of the centrazloied exchange. I rather give a large percentage on bitcoin than the altcoin, something like 75% on bitcoin and the rest on altcoins. Long-term investment should be in trusted and truly decentralized coins and only bitcoin has this kind of feature, the rest are more centralized that could be manipulated. But that depends on the people if they are willing to take the risk.

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Quote from: Lubang Bawah on November 28, 2022, 10:42:24 AM

buy BNB only for short-term gains. what happened to FTT should also teach us that coins from any exchange also have the possibility of the same risk.
currently collect more Bitcoins, when it is dumped, we can have more of it and hold it for the long term. it will be long term advantage for us. The most important thing is not to panic easily when you see market conditions.

Quote from: bitbollo on November 28, 2022, 12:08:13 AM

the only winning strategy that matters is called bitcoin.
as any other currency has been created for expenses. however since there is not inflation you can even hodl and wait for better time.

the rest, the various altcoins or shitcoins are just a big risk and something truly different from bitcoin.
Isn't easy at all to understand, even because everyone is shilling their coin ;) even because it's not easy to digest all subtle implications of an innovation like bitcoin.

Anyone who knows about Bitcoin supposed to know that Bitcoin is the best among other cryptocurrency for investment, whoever investing in altcoins in the name of best to invest don't no actually the best kind of cryptocurrency investment someone can venture into and obtain a profit for the investment, should be Bitcoin.

Altcoins can be good to be invested when their is a bullish market, because i believe that all this shitcoins always give off on the way if cryptocurrency experience a bearish market, so no one can at this particular time cryptocurrency and especially bitcoin is experiencing constantly disvalue in the price.

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Quote from: bitbollo on November 28, 2022, 12:08:13 AM

Bitcoin is indeed the safest investment compared to other coins. Everyone should realize this that if we want something that is less risky in the long term then bitcoin is the first choice.
I personally place bitcoin as an asset that I must have before other coins, say like ETH, BNB or other coins. I think it would be very unfortunate to hold other coins but not hold any bitcoins. For me whatever the amount is, I have to have it.

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Quote from: bitbollo on November 28, 2022, 12:08:13 AM

We are deriving in a particular direction, because it's very obvious that cryptocurrency have branches and Bitcoin is the genesis of cryptocurrency and also most the valuable coins among other cryptocurrency someone can invest and have rest of mind. Other coins is good to be invest when you scrutinized the chart of the market and notice that Bitcoin is about to rise.

so that's the opportunity you can invest in altcoins and make profit, so that when invest and bullish market meet up the investment, it's the process whereby altcoins investment can profitable. But in terms of long term investments Bitcoin is the best among any other coins. I want to remind you that Bitcoin is the father of other cryptocurrencies and other coin's are subcoins.

The strategy used by @OP is a common strategy that many people do, even if they don't stick to their strategy when the market is crashing to the bottom. But that is at least what investors can do if they hope to buy more bitcoins at rock bottom. And even though they can't or it's difficult to find the lowest price, as long as it's a low price, it will provide an opportunity for them to take profits when the price increases high. But be careful if you want to collect altcoins when the market is experiencing a bearish market because there will be many altcoins that fall, including potential altcoins. So choosing bitcoin is a good choice for investors to make.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

There are a lot of different strategies for working in the cryptocurrency market...

Holders buy Bitcoin and hold coins for a long period of time. Conservative investors sell their cryptocurrency during a bear market (take profits) and invest in more conservative financial instruments.

Some participants in the crypto industry do not invest in crypto assets themselves, but in elements of the crypto-currency infrastructure.

Such investments make such people more like businessmen than traders or investors.

I think the real two bodies of cryptos are those who want to earn (e.g traders, investors, stakers, freelancers, and similar) and the other one are the people who simply use their btc as a currency for sending and receiving money. For those who invest, if they invest in multi coins then they shouldn't limit their selves on investing in btc whenever there are deep dips but they can also invest in altcoins as well.

Deep dips and bear markets have no difference actually but when there is a bear market, we shouldn't only limit ourselves in altcoins, as long as we are a multi coin investor but we can also buy btc because btc price is also dropping during that time.

The best strategy is to go fundamental, choose the top20 according to market cap and decide whether you decide to hodl, day/medium-term trading or scalping.

Personally for me the time that a trade remains open is a risk, so the less time between trades the more security for me.

I practice scalping and I use it through the use of bots. I program my strategy with pinescripts and run the bots on the 3commas platform. That way the time I spend is spent on improving my strategy and I don't waste time looking at charts or staying up all night.

Dollar cost averaging or don't buy all at once which I still think is a viable strategy, buy small quantities at a set price over a period of time to get an average coin price. And it will prevent you from getting an overpriced coin and will help you get a better price if you are a long term investor.
and all of this I'm discussing assuming you're a long term owner, and my advice for now is, it's best to increase your purchases during a downturn and with money you can afford to lose and go back to buying small amounts when
the decline ends. And do this in the long run until you make timely and profitable sales.

Quote from: Lubang Bawah on November 28, 2022, 10:42:24 AM

The main important reason of holding a coin for a long period of time, is because of increment of a particular coin, and that increment can take place in a situation whereby Bitcoin have experience a bullrun. And advising someone to hold a coin for long period, it should be determined by the validation or how potential is the coin. Because sometimes people do not care for the coin that's in their portfolio and they decide to hold for long run. The coin that is advisable to invest for long time is Bitcoin only, because it's increment determine the increment of Ethereum.

Cryptocurrency considered as the most volatile platform. There is a high risk for losing large amount of money and the same time have the possibility to earn big amount. However, since cryptocurrency has gained worldwide acceptance, people are interested in investing in it despite its risks. But investing in this platform requires proper knowledge. According to the current condition of cryptocurrency, an investor must plan for the long term investment plane. Strategy can be considered as an investor's most important factor in long-term investment.
Dollar cost averaging (DCA), Crypto savings account and Holding are the effective strategy for long term investment. Among mentioned the three strategies one of the best is the "holding".
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Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Collect BTC at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

Been doing it even though it's just a small amount with the money I can afford, but still looking at my portfolio I'm still proud with it.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Collect potential Alts Bear market.

While BTC is just one coin to choose. But choosing "potential" altcoins especially during bear market is pretty difficult. Tons to choose from but they react differently with FTX collapse, you'd probably need little effort with your technical analysis and indicators in order to choose the right one for altcoins. Otherwise, just stick with Bitcoin during these days.

Quote from: cozytrade on November 28, 2022, 06:40:10 PM

If you are a long term investor then but BTC and send it to your cold wallet and come back after 5 years to check the price. The more chart you will keep watching the more greed, frustration, fear, and depression will surround you. BTC charts make people millionaires in bull run and rekt them in bear season. So why watch the chart often? Send it to your non custodial wallet and relax. ;D

People are always checking just to see what's going on in the market.
However, if you have long-term plans for your investments, like in btc, it is best not to be affected by daily movement.
It will indeed cause you stress and anxiety, as you will get worried with your investments.
But it is not wrong to check from time to time and read what's going on with the crypto industry.
It will also give you hints where the market is heading to in the long run. Just don't invest on most new alts, they can easily go down the drain.

Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2022, 04:45:02 AM

The only reasonable investment is bitcoin, more so in the dips. But there is no logical reason to invest in altcoins and bag hold them for long term since they have no real potential. When all the altcoins get is pump and dumps, it is best to treat them as short term risky trades rather than long term investment you should buy and bag hold.

A potential investor will never see such as promising as bitcoin knowing it’s the most prominent asset in the crypto market. The reason why many chose to invest in it and prioritize it over altcoins. While bitcoin is good for all time season, altcoins on the other hand are only good for pump and dump scenario, and yet in the end altcoins have less than potentials to be profitable compared to the leading investment which is bitcoin.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

As an investor your options are limited, there are not really that many strategies which you can use as they are all based around the concept of holding your assets and doing DCA, however the most important thing when investing is to do so in a good asset, and in this market there is no asset better than bitcoin, so it should always be the priority, now there are a few altcoins out there in which it could be worth to invest some of your money, as it is the case of ethereum, but this should be done with extreme caution as altcoins are nowhere near as solid as bitcoin.

Quote from: MainIbem on November 28, 2022, 06:13:16 PM

This dip these days are what investors should used as an advantage to the market because of bad effect on the market. I would also tell those who are afraid of venturing into bitcoin investment to start holding as little as they can maybe $10 to $20 instead waiting for a total dip around $10k per BTC before bear would be over they might gotten some reasonable fraction from the dip.

Unfortunately they don't. The reason why it's low is the fact that they are not taking advantage of this drop, if they did then we wouldn't have this drop and that is the key point here. There is of course a reality behind it where it would have to be a bit difficult to handle if we are talking about just sellers, there are of course some buyers out there as well but there are more people selling at certain price than buyers, which causes it to drop in price.

So, it is clear that we are talking about people who are not buying as they should right now, most are selling it. It is fine though, their loss is our future gains and that is why I am feeling comfortable about it.

Quote from: greengrassis on November 29, 2022, 11:19:22 AM

It is surprising when people expect that this or that strategy will be able to bring them big profits. Most often, the profit depends on the ability of the trader to apply this strategy. Working with a broker from Amarkets, I learned this on a demo account.

People can assume but who knows if they are right about it. Of course, you can't tell if that particular strategy is working or not if you never try it. If that will never work, then they will look for another. A trader doesn't rely on a single strategy, it often has a backup of many strategies but they usually use the strategy where they see it was more effective. Skill and knowledge are some factors that will affect the results but if you also have an ineffective strategy, that is still useless. They should be bound and work together.

Quote from: greengrassis on November 29, 2022, 11:19:22 AM

No strategy is perfect but they're highly considerable and practiceable if understood by the trader. Strategy is the main point for making profits in the market, some tactics needs to be uncovered inother to aides the ease of trading, there are many other sides of the market that people barely make their profits from, some traders are so good with trading bear market while some are good with the bull season. It all varies but as long as profits is made, the trading strategies are recommendable.

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Trading strategies are always recommended for making profits. Traders without their trading strategy only look like they are gambling because they are only guessing without any strategy and analysis.
and it's true, there is no perfect strategy, all strategies have weaknesses and sometimes the strategies that are made do not produce any results.
Besides the very important strategy, management also determines what will happen next. risk management, financial management, and emotional management.

Bitcoin is extremely the best coin that is sensible to hold and forget. Every dip is worth another DCA.

Altcoins are another alternative to earning. Highly risky but they are the jackpot of a bullish market. Pick up several potential altcoins. It is not an easy venture, we have seen countless of these potential altcoins that became worthless. Top coins are easier picks for altcoin investments. There are occasions when we want to invest in brand new and low market cap coins and it involves due diligence. Invest with caution and always limit the size to an amount bearable if they become unsuccessful.

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That is why at first you really need to learn what trading is and get a grasp on it. After you learn it, you'll start creating your own strategies, whether you use indicators or not. When it comes to trading, every trader has their own strategy; it's like planning when and where to buy or sell that crypto if the conditions in your strategy are met; without it, you're just guessing where to buy or sell and hoping for luck to strike you so that you make a profit on that trade.

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Whenever you have decided on touching up trading then of course it would really be just sensible or the right thing that you should really learn up first and then try out to engage on real time
on which you do experience it out for yourself on whats trading.Dont anticipate that you could get a hold of it in a short time basis. Long term crypto winning strategy does particularly
talks or mention about the word "HODL".It might really be that not something requires movement or step but getting a hold of asset for a long term aspect is never been easy.
Market movements could really affect you out specially on a declining market.

Quote from: Getmon on November 29, 2022, 02:43:37 PM

Choosing coins to trade is also a big factor to have positive results in trading. Some traders believe that choosing cheap coins will give them more but unfortunately, it was a big lie and a big opposite outcome.
For me, I choose those coins that have a huge trade volume because this is an indication that there is a heavily active trade happening on that project. Plus, the use of reputable exchanges will help a lot. They should be accompanied together with our strategies in order to work and get what you want.

Quote from: fennic on November 29, 2022, 02:06:46 PM

In my opinion that we should hold Cryptocurrency for long term until 2025 and we might see results that might be astounding and that could be the future.
And also I want to say that crypto market is good for us long term not short term and it could be a future. So also I wanna say I am holding my crypto till 2025.

It's very encouraging and acknowledging to hold a coin and especially a coin that have a potentiality like Bitcoin, so i believe some people today who are millionaires and billionaire through cryptocurrency and especially bitcoin started with when Bitcoin price is low before the invest and hold for long periods of time. In the aspect of Bitcoin increasing in 2925, it's not stamped that Bitcoin most experience bullrun in 2025, theirs every tendency that Bitcoin can fall beyond people's imagination in 2025, and their is every tendency that the price can accelerate more than our expectations in 2023 which is next year, everything is dependable by the investors.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Very often, the price of a cryptocurrency depends not only on the balance of supply and demand.

Each coin or token has founders and developers. Every cryptocurrency has people who are interested in its high price and who own a large number of coins. If a trader has very good analytical skills (for example, he graduated from a physics and mathematics school with honors), then he can calculate the actions of "whales" (holders of a large number of coins).

The actions of the "whales" are not chaotic, they are rational and aimed at achieving certain goals.

Therefore, these goals and actions aimed at achieving them can be predicted and thus make a profit.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Collect BTC at Deep Dips.
Collect potential Alts Bear market.

As the famous quote says "buy the dip". That's the best time to accumulate more coins, especially in the bear market.

However, the majority are still hesitant to buy more even at the lowest possible dip because of:

- expecting more dip
- not enough funds / lack of funds
- listening to others
- unable to decide

As much as possible, let's try our best to take advantage of any market situation and don't treat the bear market in a negative way.

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Quote from: Getmon on November 29, 2022, 02:43:37 PM

This is a very basic mistake that a lot of traders make, since they want to obtain a lot of profits in a short amount of time, but they never consider that by doing this they are increasing the risks they are facing and the volatility they will have to go through, this means only expert traders should do something like this as they are the only ones that can deal with it, but newbie traders disregard those risks and eventually suffer massive losses because of it.

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Quote from: Getmon on November 29, 2022, 02:43:37 PM

Everyone starts on being a newbie on which it would really be just normal that you would really be experiencing lots of mistakes and errors on which even those professionals or experts were able to experience too when

they are still a newbie.As the time goes by where experience and knowledge had been accumulate through real time engagement of the market then you would really be able to create these methods and strategies for

yourself which it is really impossible if you cant able to do so considering that you do have already the experience and awareness.Just dont make yourself in rush
because you would really be fucked up along the way if you dont mind off things well.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

so lets share your belives on strategies.

For long-term investors?
Well, just collect more Bitcoin, Bitcoin, and Bitcoin in the trusted platform. Even the platform collapsed like FTX, you can still be bale to move the Bitcoin to Binance and other trusted top exchanges.

Nowadays, Bitcoin Pirce is very crashed because of some FUD and also incidents happened like FTX and others. But, trust me and trust everyone who suggests investing in Bitcoin, after this bearish era, there will be a Bitcoin halving and bullish era. Although there is no guarantee, we can see from the cycle so far, Bitcoin will have bright future in the bullish era. That is why it is not only about how long you are investing, but about the moment we will take the profits. Bullish era, in whenever the period, will be the best time to take profits. And the bearish era like right now is the ebst way to do DCA for collecting more Bitcininlower prices.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

While others go for alts for long term investments, some are still smart enough to focus on bitcoin and just do DCA so they can always take advantage especially when the market is in deep bearish. That is the mindset of successful investors to keep on accumulating bitcoin at every price drop and once their efforts paid off, then they can start diversifying their investments with altcoins that are on top of the market list. These long term strategies have been proven effective and profitable for a lot of times.

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Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

so lets share your belives on strategies.

I believe you wanted to say "trusted wallet", not your keys not your coins! Platforms can collapse, so never hold big amounts there, FTX is not the first big exchange that went down the drain.

The winning strategy is investing in Bitcoin and holding it, the longer the better! I think some other coins are also great for long-term holding, we can underestimate the success of Ethereum, BNB, and some other great coins. We all know that these top coins (and some others for sure) have huge potential, so investing and holding them can pay out a lot one day, especially if we invest in them in these bearish periods.

The only long term "winning strategy" in the crypto market is to hold long term and not to sell when you are a loss. You can afford to invest? You have money lying around that you won't be needing for years? Then go ahead, invest what you have no matter the price and keep holding till you reach your profit goal. Look at the chart, zoom out and you will see that in the long run the price always went up. No one can accurately predict the market. If a dip is happening, try to invest more, but don't keep on waiting for the dip to happen because you might end up losing opportunity to invest. As long as you are investing in well known coins, are bound to be safe.

Since Bitcoin has make due for numerous enormous accident and FUDs around of mining as of recently, there's just a small opportunity Bitcoin would kick the bucket, this mean Bitcoin will liable to recuperate and make new ATH after the market currently back. In any case, there is not a glaringly obvious explanation to put resources into altcoins and sack hold them for long haul since they have no genuine potential. At the point when all the altcoins get is siphon and dumps, it is ideal to regard them as momentary unsafe exchanges as opposed to long haul speculation you ought to purchase and pack hold.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

This is the simplest and easiest way of making profits in the long run. Buying low Selling high from time to time is also good if you're getting bored on spot, though long term profits are still the best especially if you don't want to risk your chances in futures trading. This is also a best way to not waste your fiat sleeping on your bank account or even in your little vault in your room.

I do trading aswell in the short term, but your question is regarding investing - i am first and foremost an investor.

My plan is to accumulate bitcoin as much as i can.

For the long term i look at macro liquidity and general stock market sentiment. I also look at certain onchain data for bitcoin that coincides with the 4 year cycle. Even with this decade being so different, this has still worked.

Here is an image of M3 money supply of USA and Europe which shows strong correlation between bitcoin price and liquidity/fiat debasement that helps me for a zoomed out perspective.

https://i.postimg.cc/m2KMxkLR/Fi-Mngv-XEAw-IZ7z.jpg

Within this longer framework, i also use the volatility to accumulate. Other people like to dca consistently or buy dips, but I try to be more aggressive because i have constructed models with onchain data that allow me to have confidence to trade multi week or even multi month (some would call this swing trading). Here is an example of one of my models with backtesting.

https://i.postimg.cc/B6vB773t/1.png

In terms of short term trading, i dont focus on technical analysis simply because everyone else is, so less edge. I prefer to focus on orderbooks (which can also be useful for long term confluence for finding tops and bottoms)

Quote from: bitcoindata21 on December 08, 2022, 04:20:15 PM

I do trading aswell in the short term, but your question is regarding investing - i am first and foremost an investor.

My plan is to accumulate bitcoin as much as i can.

For the long term i look at macro liquidity and general stock market sentiment. I also look at certain onchain data for bitcoin that coincides with the 4 year cycle. Even with this decade being so different, this has still worked.

Here is an image of M3 money supply of USA and Europe which shows strong correlation between bitcoin price and liquidity/fiat debasement that helps me for a zoomed out perspective.

https://i.postimg.cc/m2KMxkLR/Fi-Mngv-XEAw-IZ7z.jpg

Within this longer framework, i also use the volatility to accumulate. Other people like to dca consistently or buy dips, but I try to be more aggressive because i have constructed models with onchain data that allow me to have confidence to trade multi week or even multi month (some would call this swing trading). Here is an example of one of my models with backtesting.

https://i.postimg.cc/B6vB773t/1.png

Thanks for the explanation. where can i see charts

In terms of short term trading, i dont focus on technical analysis simply because everyone else is, so less edge. I prefer to focus on orderbooks (which can also be useful for long term confluence for finding tops and bottoms)

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Yes, it is always a better ideal when you purchase your Bitcoin at dip price, because that seriously help to allow you make a really profit compare to a person that buy when the Bitcoin price is pumping, So it better for you do your own research before you enter the market. and long-term holding idea is always the best strategy because once you can able to hodl your Bitcoin at list 2 to 3 years, I believe you will likely to experience halving year period which is where everybody believe bullrun will commonly occurs, according to history of Bitcoin and that have repeated itself in many times. Buy dip and hodl for a long term so you can able to make huge profit.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

These very long term traders are generally just the big FIIs who have access to information which retail folks don't. These people generally just create groups of their own and manipulate the market to buy at the deeps and accumulate during bear markets. And they know how to pump the markets as well. Moreover the main thing is that they work in an ecosystem of media, social media, bankers etc. And all of them work as per their directions and help them in creating the wind that they want to about the market.

Quote from: teosanru on December 09, 2022, 08:03:32 AM

You are pointing to whales. Perhaps, the idea to manipulate the market isn't new to us and we are already aware of the situation that can be possible for these whales since they have the money and the capability to do it. But if you are just normal investors who just hold and wait for the market to rally, you have nothing to do but just to become patient. Too far from how these whales make action but yes, they both buy more potential coins during the dip and sell them at a high price. Their intention is to make profit, yet they make their own way of doing it.

Quote from: udayantha11 on December 09, 2022, 04:39:03 AM

Quote from: bitcoindata21 on December 08, 2022, 04:20:15 PM

I do trading aswell in the short term, but your question is regarding investing - i am first and foremost an investor.

My plan is to accumulate bitcoin as much as i can.

For the long term i look at macro liquidity and general stock market sentiment. I also look at certain onchain data for bitcoin that coincides with the 4 year cycle. Even with this decade being so different, this has still worked.

Here is an image of M3 money supply of USA and Europe which shows strong correlation between bitcoin price and liquidity/fiat debasement that helps me for a zoomed out perspective.

Within this longer framework, i also use the volatility to accumulate. Other people like to dca consistently or buy dips, but I try to be more aggressive because i have constructed models with onchain data that allow me to have confidence to trade multi week or even multi month (some would call this swing trading). Here is an example of one of my models with backtesting.

Thanks for the explanation. where can i see charts

In terms of short term trading, i dont focus on technical analysis simply because everyone else is, so less edge. I prefer to focus on orderbooks (which can also be useful for long term confluence for finding tops and bottoms)

you need tradingview account, and then to search for what is listed in the top left corner

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Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

disagree, retail do have access to information, data from blockchain and other metrics are not expensive or difficult to find. retail would much rather follow scammers though, its their own fault. lets not place all the blame on whales; people are responsible for their own actions, nobody wants to be accountable, just rich quick

Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on December 09, 2022, 07:27:53 AM

snip~... Buy dip and hodl for a long term so you can able to make huge profit.

Holding for 5 years, 10 years - that is the meaning of long-term. Yet, holding for too long guarantees nothing for a huge profit but for sure, we can get bigger rewards compared to short-term investors. But of course, it really matters the coins we choose to hold because not all of them are worthy, many of them are worthless and just a waste of time.

Bitcoin and Ethereum are good coins for the long term. We should not miss the opportunity we have today for this will somehow change someday.

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Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Collect BTC at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

Been doing it even though it's just a small amount with the money I can afford, but still looking at my portfolio I'm still proud with it.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Collect potential Alts Bear market.

It’s hard to trust and invest into altcoins especially when the market is still bearish because aside from the fact that most of the altcoins cannot survive and die eventually while waiting for market recovery, even potential altcoins cannot give us guarantee if they will progress in the process. So to lessen the risk and make yourself stay at ease, just focus on bitcoin. You can only start to diversify your investments when you are already in profits with bitcoin.

Everything that I know in the long term implies having a lot of patience and a well-armored heart for all the casualties that can be experienced in Bitcoin, there are many factors that can be triggered and this would affect the markets a lot, among them, the drums of war, war between different nations, well those things can influence not only the Bitcoin market but also all speculative markets, for me that bitcoin drops in price is an opportunity that I have to make a very good purchase and take advantage of it, of course this as long as My financial situation allows it. Otherwise, have a lot of patience and wait when it goes up because that moment is the one that should be enjoyed the most.

Quote from: Yamifoud on December 09, 2022, 01:56:05 PM

Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on December 09, 2022, 07:27:53 AM

snip~... Buy dip and hodl for a long term so you can able to make huge profit.

Quote from: Yamifoud on December 09, 2022, 01:56:05 PM

Quote from: SOKO-DEKE on December 09, 2022, 07:27:53 AM

snip~... Buy dip and hodl for a long term so you can able to make huge profit.

Well yes, eventually Bitcoin may be the best investment, and ETH may be a not so safe investment, after the mioviemtnos that Buterin did it is something that I did not like at all, that means that he wants to continue being the agent controlled by the market, and in any ecosystem where control or decentralization exists, always for my personal criteria, that is useless, because a person who wants to control everything for me is harmful and Buterin has achieved that, that's why every time someone asks me What is the best investment or what I recommend you buy, I will always say Bitcoin, because for me it is the safest.

Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2022, 04:45:02 AM

Bitcoin is the best currency to invest in. If you are a long term investor then you must invest in Bitcoin. There are many altcoins once they go down from the market they can never go back to that position again. And one time converted to shitcoin. People invest in all these coins.becomes and demoralizes their investment. So investing should always be done with good thinking. Now is the best time to invest. Right now if you can invest in bitcoin and hold long term you can make a lot of money.

Quote from: Rigon on December 24, 2022, 09:33:08 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2022, 04:45:02 AM

Bitcoin is the best currency to invest in. If you are a long term investor then you must invest in Bitcoin. There are many altcoins once they go down from the market they can never go back to that position again. And one time sheet is converted to coin. People invest in all these coins.becomes and demoralizes their investment. So investing should always be done with good thinking. Now is the best time to invest. Right now if you can invest in bitcoin and hold long term you can make a lot of money.

For cryptocurrencies, bitcoin is considered the safest option but not the most profitable. It depends on each person's preference, if you like safety, then bitcoin is the choice, but if you want high returns and can accept the risk, then altcoin is the choice. Not everyone should invest in bitcoin, the cryptocurrency market is highly diverse for everyone to choose from according to their preferences.

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2022, 04:45:02 AM

Bitcoin is the best currency to invest in. If you are a long term investor then you must invest in Bitcoin. There are many altcoins once they go down from the market they can never go back to that position again. And one time sheet is converted to coin. People invest in all these coins.becomes and demoralizes their investment. So investing should always be done with good thinking. Now is the best time to invest. Right now if you can invest in bitcoin and hold long term you can make a lot of money.

my take on this - though btc may not be profitable as compared to other alts, but with btc, you are sure that this top currency won't disappear without a warning. most new alts can easily be dumped by their respective devs. yes, you may gain huge if you entered and exited at the right time, but who knows when such timings will happen? only those coin owners or developers. this is why they are the ones pocketing their profits with their creations.
better be sure with your investments rather than gamble with these new alts.

Quote from: MoonOfLife on December 24, 2022, 11:18:04 PM

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2022, 04:45:02 AM

Bitcoin is the best currency to invest in. If you are a long term investor then you must invest in Bitcoin. There are many altcoins once they go down from the market they can never go back to that position again. And one time sheet is converted to coin. People invest in all these coins.becomes and demoralizes their investment. So investing should always be done with good thinking. Now is the best time to invest. Right now if you can invest in bitcoin and hold long term you can make a lot of money.

People never want to take risks. They always want a safe haven. I have also seen many people become completely destitute by investing in ALT coins. Even though investing in Bitcoin is not very profitable according to you, but investing in Bitcoin is very reliable. At present the market is dumping a lot, those who have invested from the high level market have the possibility of recovery even if they have to wait for a long time. But those who invested in some altcoins at the high end of the market and suffered losses in this dumping market are unlikely to recover later. So although investment in Bitcoin is less profitable, Bitcoin investment is very reliable.

Quote from: NicNacCoin on December 24, 2022, 11:58:33 PM

People never want to take risks. They always want a safe haven. I have also seen many people become completely destitute by investing in ALT coins.

That is why they want a "safer" haven and that is bitcoin>altcoins.

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Even though investing in Bitcoin is not very profitable according to you, but investing in Bitcoin is very reliable.

As compared to altcoins, yes. There are other uncertainties in bitcoin too like buying price, government crackdown, exchanges getting hacked and all. Still we can be assured that the support of bitcoin being large we will not sure rock bottom prices before buying starts.

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But those who invested in some altcoins at the high end of the market and suffered losses in this dumping market are unlikely to recover later.

Not everyone understands this and they hope for big gains while the coin is hyped and then lament about losses in the bear market.

Quote from: MoonOfLife on December 24, 2022, 11:18:04 PM

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2022, 04:45:02 AM

Bitcoin is the best currency to invest in. If you are a long term investor then you must invest in Bitcoin. There are many altcoins once they go down from the market they can never go back to that position again. And one time sheet is converted to coin. People invest in all these coins.becomes and demoralizes their investment. So investing should always be done with good thinking. Now is the best time to invest. Right now if you can invest in bitcoin and hold long term you can make a lot of money.

I don't see where the safest point is in Bitcoin, as it is highly volatile and a lot of people can lose money in just a night. Once you invest in it, it has a high risk and a high return. I don't know what coins are going to mean, but if you look at bitcoin in the previous years, you'll see that the price of bitcoin keeps increasing over time and that it is also becoming more difficult to own one as the price is higher than in previous years. Altcoin is also a good investment, but again, it is volatile, and we are not sure which coin has a chance to get into ATH as the price of it is mostly dependent on bitcoin or ETH.

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2022, 04:45:02 AM

Bitcoin is the best currency to invest in. If you are a long term investor then you must invest in Bitcoin. There are many altcoins once they go down from the market they can never go back to that position again. And one time sheet is converted to coin. People invest in all these coins.becomes and demoralizes their investment. So investing should always be done with good thinking. Now is the best time to invest. Right now if you can invest in bitcoin and hold long term you can make a lot of money.

When it comes to long-term investment, Bitcoin will always be the best option. You don't have to apply any complex strategy but rather just buy during the dip and sell when the market recovers or when we reach our targer profit. Aside from Bitcoin, well-established coins like ETH and BNB are also good choices. It's risky to buy non-established altcoins if our purpose is a long-term investment because some altcoins are just profitable in a short-term run.

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2022, 04:45:02 AM

Bitcoin is the best currency to invest in. If you are a long term investor then you must invest in Bitcoin. There are many altcoins once they go down from the market they can never go back to that position again. And one time sheet is converted to coin. People invest in all these coins.becomes and demoralizes their investment. So investing should always be done with good thinking. Now is the best time to invest. Right now if you can invest in bitcoin and hold long term you can make a lot of money.

Why not invest in both? I will still invest in bitcoin, and it will still make up the majority of my portfolio, I still invest in altcoins, but it will only be a small part, and if there is a risk, then it will be insignificant. To be profitable when investing in altcoins, just have a plan, accept a small profit, then I think it's still safe to play.

I believe that no strategy works the second time. Everything that works is just pure luck and good calculations. If your calculation and predictions are good, then definitely you can minimise the risk. Basically the strategy for long term investment should be, how we can minimise the risk involved. Forget about the profits, basically during long term trades, most traders think how they can stop losses. And at last select the coin which is solid and constant for long term of time. Usually Bitcoins are the ideal pick for these types of investments.

Quote from: Nrcewker on December 25, 2022, 04:18:05 PM

A strategy needs to be updated so that it can work all the time but you must still need to go for stoploss and technically derived target level so that a strategy will be working forever or else you can exit at small loss. The reason for having stoploss level in your trade is that no strategy is perfect against market fluctuations. So, with stoploss function, we can believe into all strategy all the times given that time to time posses are happening as well.

The simple trick here we need to consider is, stoploss should be half of what we are having as target level so that we can manage the losses at minimum against profitable trades.

As an investor, i think you need to know also something about trading too. Otherwise, you will lose to traders. Good market movement knowledge will also help.
I don't like to just buy and hold. My main goal would be to increase the assets, not the funds. So to do that, specially in a bear market situation like this, is to DCA. Dollar cost averaging. This can help to smooth out the impact of price fluctuations and reduce the risk of buying at the top of a market cycle.
I will DCA on altcoins if they show some potential. And on the other hand, as a long term investment, I will choose BTC.

Quote from: Fondarchand on December 25, 2022, 03:06:02 PM

Invest according to your fund and do not invest too much in just a single coin as you know that whenever the situation become against your your thoughts then it is alarming for you to get rid of your money. Just make a plan and invest accordingly, put cash in more than a single coin. Buy during this down market and keep holding for several months then it will improve your success.

That "plan" is what OP is trying to ask.

Trading in concrete is about buying things cheap and selling them for higher so yeah it' kind of true that you find the potentially good coins during the bear run and sell the off during the bull market.

One common strategy I use is short selling overhyped coins during the bull run. Basically you need to spot the coins that are in green suddenly and don't have a solid product to back the price and just short sell those coins and once the price drops, buy them and repay at cheaper price ;).

Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2022, 04:45:02 AM

You are right, and second investment doesn't have a break, you can as well invest in any time you feel like investing, because i have noticed that Bitcoin investment it's something people do watch over and over before investing in Bitcoin, because of the bearish market, and another about it, is that altcoins is not a what you can invest on, because they is every tendency that your investment with altcoins can die on the way.

Quote from: GeorgeJohn on December 25, 2022, 11:27:30 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2022, 04:45:02 AM

But what altcoins you guys are talking about? Maybe you forgot already that there are also alts with great potential on them. There are new altcoins as well which might be given a big break when the right time comes. They can be great to HODL for long term in addition with our Bitcoin investment. Investing in BTC can be done in anytime but a lot of people still prefer to invest whenever there is a bear market.

This is where you can get the most out of your money. The only way to become successful in long-term Hodling is to have a good amount of patience. Not checking the market oftently or your portfolio can be a good thing too so that you will never be distracted on your long term goals.

Quote from: GeorgeJohn on December 25, 2022, 11:27:30 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2022, 04:45:02 AM

Unless you've invested in a top-5 altcoin, which is safer than new coins, but most new coins nowadays are going to die over a period of years due to no development or the developers leaving to start another coin. I just recalled that most of the new coins that have been going out will last for 2-3 years as the devs will not be abandoning it and they will really complete their roadmap so it will be a successful project, but now, mostly, they are just on half of their roadmap and will then be gone. I think it is because of a lack of funds or because they really want to scam people.

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2022, 04:45:02 AM

Not all the new coins can die off, the thing is that you have to look for altcoins that have the potential, because those coin's you feel that doesn't have long term can have a long staying during the bearish market, but the problem is to know the potentiality first, knowing the potentiality will determine the length of the coin.

there are things that I've read lately that shock me but that most of the time I haven't commented on but today I decided to comment on such a thing, and the following: there are people who believe that holding for 10 years is something good and advantageous, they think that by doing hodl for 10 years you will be guaranteed to get high profits but you have to think that 10 years is a long time, people are not immortal, and also bitcoin will not be the best currency forever

let's imagine that a person is 44 years old, so that person cannot take the risk of buying bitcoin to hold it for 10 years because currently life expectancy is very low, reaching 54 years old is no longer as easy as in the past and at that time governments may be putting in place tougher laws that would make the price of bitcoin start to become more stable and people start using bitcoin as a currency and not as a means of making long term profit

I hope people start to think that even in the long run there's still a lot they need to consider before doing this.

Quote from: greengrassis on December 25, 2022, 05:51:01 PM

On the one hand, a crypt for me is an investment option for a short period, but there are quite a few nuances in terms of work and the market is dynamic. But at the same time, if you successfully choose an investment strategy for a long period of time, you can also make great money.

I think now is the right time to invest. Now my Jani Bitcoin is in a lot of dumping so if we can invest now it will be very beneficial for us. And if we don't invest now we will invest after some days. If we think about it, it may be foolish for us. So if we can do the right thing at the right time, it will be good for us and we will never face any problem.

Quote from: Nrcewker on December 25, 2022, 04:18:05 PM

Learn in depth about the strategy we will use, it will help a lot how effective what we are doing. Maybe for altcoins I can still call it luck, but when talking about bitcoin it's no longer a matter of luck, but how strong we are in withstanding all the shocks that the market faces.
I totally agree that bitcoin is an asset that is highly recommended to be held for a very long time, because that's how investors take advantage of this bitcoin. We can't stick to one or two points while the market is sinking like this, but we have to look to a very promising future.

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It isn't too late to invest in Bitcoin especially now that the prices are too low. It's a good opportunity for us to accumulate Bitcoin at a lower price because for now, it's good to buy it for the long-term run. Now complex strategy should be applied but just being patient to hold since the market recovery seems to be taking a lot of time. We only have to wait and be patient if we want to gain a better profit and always take the dip as a buying opportunity.

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It could not have been said better, I have always thought that the best investment in the world is bitcoin, however I know that with altcoins many win, and I do not blame them for anything, but only when I review what happened this year, the token FTT, LUNA, it is something that does not make anyone doubt, nobody is going to invest money where they can lose everything, it is not the same to lose than to win with large amounts of money, personally for me the only salvation will always be to have Bitcoin , and obviously if they want to diversify it is something that does not hurt, but I think that the best thing for the future is bitcoin, and at this moment the most important thing is that the price is relatively low to buy.

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2022, 04:45:02 AM

Most others want to take altcoin because Bitcoin is a relatively slow-moving market (even if it is fast) and you can be a millionaire in just one night. This is mostly what I noticed in those investors in altcoin, I would probably say it's true but again only a few are successful on it and others altcoins are dying same with their investment, they won't make a fast and easy profit it is some sort of greed. Bitcoin is really safest compared to altcoin but it needs your time and patience so if you can give it to bitcoin for sure after a few years you'll gain profit from it.

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2022, 04:45:02 AM

What i want us to know from this scenario is that Bitcoin have a higher potentials than any other coins, indecencies that Bitcoin have a domination. So in the aspect of investment, you're right indecencies that nobody plan to invest when they will be lost, so therefore investment of Bitcoin should be in more advantages than investment in altcoins, because many altcoins always die off on the process of investment.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

The deep dips is always the best time to invest long on BTC and past events has proven so, right now BTC my be struggling with price which has made many investor paranoid and pulled out their investment out of the fears that BTC might continue dropping down in price till it diminishes but all of that is false fear cause this is not the first time BTC price has been this bad. All we need to do now is to think long term investment as BTC will recover to a price value unimagined anytime soon.
As for alts that's a risk I won't endeavor to take, for the potentiality of any alt is just but a momentary potent which will vanish in short period after gaining trust and assets invested on already. We have seen so many cases

Quote from: Lida93 on January 09, 2023, 09:21:08 PM

The bear season is really the best time to start investing in potential coins like Bitcoin. But the question is if you can manage to hold longer as the price won't recover. Because a lot of people buy during the dip but as the situation gets worse where prices are dumping more, they are in panic selling. So instead of making a profit, they are only making losses.

Let us say it was a good opportunity but it was a disaster for some investors who never understand the volatility of the market. That is why as long as you can manage to hold, then grab this opportunity.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Most common and sometimes I adhere

Collect BTC at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

Collect potential Alts Bear market.

My favorites are the winning strategies the OP outlined. I have been using these strategies for some time now, and I have absolutely no regrets.
I would also like to emphasize that during a FUD, the individual should always follow their instincts and not the herd. Never investing money, you cannot afford to lose is a terrific winning formula that has survived the test of time.

Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on January 10, 2023, 03:23:45 PM

The main thing to consider through investment is the risk measure, because during investment they is every tendency that the investment van be results out negativity or positivity, so that's while we do encourage whosever that running investment to ensure that whatever you are using for investment should not be all you have. Investing what you are capable of losing it has been primary statement given by experience investors. So beginner's have emulate such ideas so they won't be depressed when luck run out of them during investment, either long term or short term investment.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Collect BTC at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

DCA comes in handy here. At every dip lies a potential buying opportunity. Just like the case of FTX where price plunged so dip and that is what has kept the price hovering around $16k-$17k for a while now in which buying each time a new dip forms becomes a strategy of its own.

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Collect potential Alts Bear market
so, let's share your beliefs on strategies.

One has to be extremely careful in collecting potential Alts. Most of the failed Alt coin were potential Alts, just like the case of LUNA. I think cryptocurrency that is centralized has higher chances of getting compromised along the line, either by intention or by unforeseen circumstances. If one must collect Alts it shouldn't be with the hope that they have potentials even if they do. But with so much caution and risking what can be affordable in case things goes sore.

The best strategy is to not miss the train. It's actually not very important if you buy the dip or on the middle of the way, the important is that you bought a portion of bitcoins and are ready with your holdings safe and sound for the future. There is no mistery on it and everyone is able to build their bitcoin portfolios taking advantage of future price increasements, being them newbies or experient enthusiasts. As an example I could mention the present moment: we aren't at the dip, but if you can buy bitcoin right now, do this, because your focus is on long term, and not on what is going to happen tomorrow or on the next month.

You don't need to wait to start investing, you can do this now.

I still considers holding your investments for long term will be advantageous for the simple fact that you will encounters many chance of bullish where you could literally made quite the fortune, whether you gonna sell your investments at around that moment is definitely up to you, that's the benefit of holding for long term but of course it will be harder than it looked.
But the thing with long term holding is finding the prospective coins it's like finding needle in a haystack basically you could be very well have good strategy for long term but the coins itself turning into dust, then your strategy will be worthless, that's just one of many things that you should consider holding long term.

Quote from: shinratensei_ on January 10, 2023, 11:32:23 PM

But the thing with long term holding is finding the prospective coins it's like finding needle in a haystack basically you could be very well have good strategy for long term but the coins itself turning into dust, then your strategy will be worthless, that's just one of many things that you should consider holding long term.

You can avoid this to happen by only considering Bitcoin as the only coin that is stored for the long term while altcoins are only used as a way to make our Bitcoins more and more by buying bitcoins from profit trading in altcoins, with all the cases that arise in the world altcoins in recent times there is no altcoin that is recommended for the long term because the chance of losing is greater than the profit if you keep it for the long term.

Quote from: minime0105 on December 29, 2022, 10:00:15 PM

Trading and investor are same thing someone like to do, in the aspect of trading, it's method and Skill someone desires to acquire and master of it's, whosoever that is trading is also on investment and whosoever that is invest in is directly in trading it's as well call investment, so will advice anyone or any person who what to invest in cryptocurrency to go directly in Bitcoin and alao remember that long term investment is best to do in bearish

Yes I agree with this point. I think now it would be better if I can invest in Bitcoin for long time. I thought I will invest some of my money in Bitcoin and I will sell them when I see them. I will sell them just when the price will increase by several times. I don't think there will ever be a loss if you keep investing in Bitcoin.

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Quote from: greengrassis on December 25, 2022, 05:51:01 PM

I agree this is the right time to invest as the currency prices are veritably low. However the price will increase, if you stay for some time investors generally do not watch about short term price oscillations because of long term investments. Because of that, they generally remain fairly unresistant without fussing too important about short term losses.

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Quote from: minime0105 on December 29, 2022, 10:00:15 PM

Investing in Bitcoin is a great choice besides that for a long term investment it's no doubt,
it will be profitable even so we also need to have patience and it's not easy,
at least by investing in Bitcoin it is much safer.

Quote from: rojan on January 11, 2023, 02:35:53 PM

Now is a good time to buy bitcoin for the long term, the most important thing is not to sell it if the price drops. Buy and strictly follow the set goals, initially mark a goal for yourself, the price at which you will sell and wait. Prices should be realistic, because if you set a goal of selling at a price of 500k, then it can take too long and the wait becomes too tiring.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

The long term winning strategies in crypto market start with good research work before deciding to invest in any project, which is key factor for the success of investment, because it can help a lot to identifying good projects which are fundamentally strong & backed by professional and dynamic teams . The next important factor is patience, which means avoid impulsive buying or selling and wait for the right time to take entry and exit to book good gains on your investment.

Quote from: Sayeds56 on January 12, 2023, 08:42:06 AM

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Knowledge is really power and it is the fundamentals or must before jumping to investment. Though patience is a plus but you need to have be mentally stable so that you can able to execute your strategy well because if you don't have stable emotions you will tend to not follow your strategy and triggering trades due to greed and as well as not having patience. You should make reading as a habit when it comes to investing coins that you find worth to invest because news are really affects the price on them so that you can react or pull out immediately your funds to prevent loses.

Quote from: Sayeds56 on January 12, 2023, 08:42:06 AM

Do that and you will find out a bitter truth which is that 99% of the projects do not have a fundamentally strong idea and is neither backed by a good team. Either those projects lack first mover advantage or they are trying to do something that is competing with a similar concept in the mainstream market. Mind you, any crypto project that tries to compete with a mainstream counterpart will always fail.

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The next important factor is patience, which means avoid impulsive buying or selling and wait for the right time to take entry and exit to book good gains on your investment.

This is applicable to any aspect in life, but I guess in trading it brings in a whole lot of importance. We cannot have good returns from impulsive and reckless trading.

In most cases, buying and holding is the best strategy for the best profits in the long term.
The timeframe may vary, but it just depends on how likely it is to sell it on the upcoming new ATH. Some will set a low profit percentage and take advantage of cycles, and some it can be up to 1-3 years.

I don't doubt it's a long-term buy and hold strategy, and DCA can usually also be used to accumulate assets on a few dips during a bearish or correction. There is good hope in the long term, but we must not ignore security and other risks to assets and storage. Finally, always invest an amount you can afford to lose and don't keep your eggs in one basket.

Long-term strategies are always the best, in fact if a person starts trading long-term, no matter what happens, there is always a very good opportunity to react to the market, it is difficult to trade short-term Because the most likely thing is that if you have little reaction, if the market goes against you, you lose money, for example in futures, there you must be very alert, it is a double-edged sword, something that has to be taken very seriously and in Actually, it could be like one of the things that take the most adrenaline, however when there is long-term trading or investment, everything is calmer, or generally my movements in trading are long or very long-term, the key to everything is to have patience.

Quote from: udayantha11 on November 27, 2022, 03:58:54 AM

Collect BTC at Deep Dips. (recently FTX collapsed)

Collect potential Alts Bear market.

Definitely a good strategy, who ever bought bitcoins right after FTX bankruptcy must already be a happy investor today. You need to a have a strong stomach to buy when everybody is selling. The main issue is that we don't know how low the price is going to drop. I am sure there were quite a few investors who hoped the price would drop down to 10,000 USD and would have bought a lot of coins then. It's hard to really predict where the bottom is and when prices are going to rise again. I kind of stopped trying to find the exact points where to buy and sell. For me it's much more relaxing to buy my coins over a longer period of time. So instead of making one big purchase, I rather make 3-4 smaller purchases over 3 months. That might result in a slightly higher average purchase price, but I save some time on doing research to find the perfect time to buy.

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on January 21, 2023, 07:10:25 PM

That's true but implementing a long-term strategy isn't easy either,
it takes patience which not everyone has and it is also important to keep abreast of market movements,
actually it all depends on the coins we have because if we have a top coin like Bitcoin or Ethereum it's obviously very viable long term.

some long-term investors use is dollar-cost averaging. this involves investing a fixed amount of money at regular intervals, regardless of the price of the asset. This helps to reduce the impact of volatility on the overall investment and can be a good strategy for those who are just getting started with investing in crypto.

another strategy is to invest in a diversified portfolio of cryptocurrencies. this can help to spread out risk and can provide a hedge against the volatility of any one particular coin. It's important to research and understand the different projects and their potential for growth before investing.

additionally, some investors also look for undervalued coins with strong fundamentals and potential for long-term growth. This strategy involves researching and analyzing the technology, team, and partnerships of a specific project, and investing in those that have a strong chance of succeeding in the long run.

Quote from: blockman on November 27, 2022, 09:33:49 PM

DCA is ideal for the long term.
Those that don't know and are unsure if they're going to buy right now can do that strategy for them to have it set with their purchases of bitcoin.
As long as you're accumulating bitcoin, you'll see the effect of it when the market goes back again you're also practicing the discipline of it which will be beneficial to you as you practice it.

Yes, it's true that by using DCA, we can allocate a certain amount of capital to the portfolio on a regular basis regardless of whether the market is rising or falling.

The DCA strategy for the long term is indeed the right choice for us, especially for beginners, because with DCA we have lower risk, investing in this way also doesn't bring us the risk of buying at high prices, which can be scary if the price drops.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on January 21, 2023, 07:10:25 PM

Not all are patient enough to see their investment will grow, some will decide to sell their crypto when they see a small profit, just like what it happened in the past few days. Perhaps, it was an option but I'd never say it was a wrong option to become a short-term holder and maybe they are comfortable doing this. Or they may see that it was more profitable than long-term.

Like if I can make a profit of $1000 per week, I should do it as well. It was not important whether you are a long-term or short-term investor because the most important is you are not losing in your investment. Buy, sell, and reinvest...

Quote from: greengrassis on January 23, 2023, 06:25:00 PM

As for me, cryptocurrency is not the best option for long-term investments. At least it seems to me that there are much safer options, especially for long-term investments.

Cryptocurrencies are not the only investment tool, but we are on a crypto forum, and people don't want to discuss anything other than cryptocurrencies. About long-term investment bitcoin is also very suitable for long-term investment, if you have learned about the history of bitcoin, you can see that in the last 14 years, bitcoin has always increased in price, even the best growth asset compared to gold or stocks. In terms of safety, bitcoin is not compared to gold, but in terms of profitability, gold is far behind bitcoin, there is no asset that is both safe and highly profitable.

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