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I got this very topic phrase"Not A Religion from one of my favourites in the community (Bitcointalk forum).
This very topic rang a bell in my heart because I had to read her response on a topic over and over again and I really do agree with her that Bitcoin isn't a religion
Most people see Bitcoin as a religion and a must to believe in it and and feel left out if they aren't.
One of the reasons people who believe so much in Bitcoin is the possibility of making money with minimal effort.
Do you really see Bitcoin as a religion?

I guess that you're referring to Bitcoin price here, since technically it works on proven math/IT/cryptography with easy to reach source code, nothing "untouchable" people have to "believe in".

So back to price. Bitcoin has scarcity and very well thought tech, but in order to have good price there's a need at least for demand. Hence a degree of trust is still needed.
Now, I see two group of "believers":
* those who understand fairly well the math and relationships behind this and will say "it's not a religion"
* those who don't grasp all this and just see the price go sky high now and then; they keep their fingers crossed or even pray to get rich (quick)

To think more simply, bitcoin is just an investment, a store of assets as well as a means of payment, it serves our lives, we do not serve it as a god.
Bitcoin is not as godly as you think, you should remember that we didn't have bitcoin before and we still live well and everything is normal. But if you are religious, you know how important religion is.

Is that not just you only believe in Bitcoin, it's just because the utility of Bitcoin is the reason I trust and believe in this digital currency.
Though it's a valuable asset, you can't treat this the same as your religion, it's a different thing because you never think it's religion when someone owns gold or a bunch of money.  You can't pray to Bitcoin itself to increase the price quickly so that you can get your profit, that's not how it will work.

It needs worldwide adoption so that the demand will increase that makes the price will increase too.  It's simple to think that the price was based on the demand and the supply which makes the price grow up, with minimal effort but it needs your patience which for sure it's time-consuming.

No.

Yes, bitcoin is an asset you can invest with the hope of earning something good in the future which many bitcoiners nvestors has tested it in the bear season and bull season to have so much believe on Bitcoin. Bitcoin is different from other assets you can predict and it will come to pass according to your prediction. I don't think, people just believed in Bitcoin because of money only but money is part of it, but many people believe Bitcoin just because is not manage by government.

It's been true all along. People only want to hear beautiful fairy tales.

Sounds like too much.
I prefer to think that bitcoin as a commodity and treat it like gold (physically); however maybe others will say that I'm stupid. Don't care.

No, and no one should.
Religion mostly involves blind Faith in the existence of something which is not physical, Bitcoin does not involve faith or trust, rather you should try to verify everything about the network. Hence the phrase; "Do not trust, verify"

If you use a less extreme word than 'religion', it could be argued that there are many who feel that Bitcoin has no flaws and can never be usurped by newer or 'better' technologies, hence they already have a closed mindset to any innovation.

Thinking up and saying realistically on which Bitcoin isnt a religion but a digital currency.It is really just people are really that overthinking too much or being that too optimistic which do really comes into a point that
they are really that treating it as a God.
Some are really just too obsessed on how to make or earn money on fastest way as possible which they do really see crypto dealing is they key.People do really comes into a point on which they
really believe  that this would really be saving up from their hardship in terms of finances.
People would just realize that this is just a currency and not something which is really connected with some divine things.It is really just stupid.

I very rarely see people calling Bitcoin a religion, most commonly its when someone calls Bitcoin a cult when they are suggesting that it has no value and the community is based on pure belief.

You could draw some parallels between Bitcoin and religion, because Bitcoin community tends to be messianic - there's a lot of people who believe that Bitcoin is here to change the world, get rid of the evil banking system and fiat money. But such comparison isn't really productive, because that's just some aspect of Bitcoin community. At its core Bitcoin has nothing to do with religion, which is belief in supernatural forces.

No, Bitcoin is not a religion whatsoever.
However, there are elements within the Bitcoin community that could  make it seem like a "religion", those are mantras or phrases that many (myself included) tend to repeat now and then:

"Not your keys, not your coins"

"Vires in numeris"

Bitcoin is about technology, economy and political ideals, the latter can be interpreted in a personal way, but in the end, most of the people in Bitcoin believe in the same ideas on decentralization, self custody, deflation, etc. Whenever you join a community where most of people seem to agree on the same, it may look like a cult, but make no mistake, Bitcoin is not a cult: anyone here is free to enter and quit whenever they want. 

Most people? Isn't it too excessive in the choice of words so that more people think Bitcoin is a religion? Most people mean more than half of the bitcoin user population. Maybe it's not right, you have to correct it. Only a few people think bitcoin is a religion. Belief in bitcoin has nothing to do with religion, believing in bitcoin means accepting technology and its use is not a matter of religion.

"Religion is a system that regulates the belief and worship of God as well as rules related to customs, and a worldview that connects humans with the order of life, the implementation of religion can be influenced by local traditions."

Don't overestimate the trust in bitcoin, it will be very different from economics and religion.

Nope! Because it is not a religion! I am not sure how you came to the conclusion that many bitcoiners considered it a religion because I have never got that vibe to be very honest! You will definitely find bitcoin maximalists here who truly believes in bitcoin and its power to break free censorship. This belief must not be mixed with religious kind of beliefs.

Bitcoin is a disruptive innovation that disrupted the traditional payments market significantly! But it still has a long way to go. Also, it is not right to entrust any single asset class blindly. It will make you suffer losses in an unimaginable way. When it comes to making money out of bitcoin, just keep your eyes and ears open and diversify every single time! And it is better to leave this religious thought out of bitcoin please! 

I can't fathom what relationship between bitcoin and religion, and u always see those that make such statements as being confused about what Bitcoin really is and what is at stake here. Bitcoin is an alternate currency and also an asset with a great value which reflects in the price of Bitcoin, Bitcoin is trustless and verifiable on the network. And I can relate religion to any of this Bitcoin primary usage and purpose, so it will be a wasted effort trying to debate on this subject matter and we have seen similar topics like this before, it will not generate any serious discussion and in no time the topic will become in active since there will be no discussion due to the nature of this topic. Bitcoin vs Religion is a no comparable.

Bitcoin is not a religion, if you can classify Bitcoin as a religion what about fiat currency, is fiat currency also a religion from your understanding, the answer should be No, because i believe that religion is something a particular environment do accept but Bitcoin is cryptocurrency that is generally accepted by anyone we know across the country, because every country do accept Bitcoin not the government but the people living in the country both different religions, because religion is a culture.

I'm not sure what you mean by religion in this scenario. Bitcoin is neither for nor against any particular religion. Bitcoin is for everyone, as well as Bitcointalk. Whether it's Bitcoin or Bitcointalk, we're a community. We all love Bitcoin because it is peer-to-peer electronic money that allows us to make borderless payments. However, some people believe it is a quick way to make money.

I really dont get that word religion to bitcoin relations. Its not something we can compared like God or some form of deity right. First of all its a digital asset which is far from the context of Religious.

Maybe if some people thought of that is because they earn money from it by trading but the meaning is totally out of line.

Religion could mean several things based on the perspective of people. It could be an avenue to worship or reference a Superhuman that controls the affairs of men. This is where we have religion like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and so on. It could also mean commitment or devotion to a certain course or interest. Some inventors were committed to make new discoveries and they were very dedicated to achieve them.
 
Based on the first definition Bitcoin is not a religion because it doesn't promote any belief about a particular God, gods or deity. Everybody regardless of your religion is welcomed to the Bitcoin space and nobody is promoting any form of religion, I am not sure Satoshi's religion is known or whether he belongs to any religion.

We have heard phrases like this 'Humanity is my religion or freedom is my new religion'. This could entail that you are committed to a particular course because you believe it is worthwhile. It means devotion to promote a particular product or idea because you believe it would have a positive effect on the people. Relating Bitcoin as a religion in this aspect might not be wrong because their are individuals that are working hard and dedicating their time and resources because they want to promote Bitcoin. Their number one desire or task is to do everything possible to add value to the Bitcoin space. Bitcoin is not their religion because it promotes a certain religious belief, it is their religion because they are dedication or devoting resources to it.  

Definition link (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/religion)       

Lol, it is really childish for anyone to see or believe Bitcoin to be a religion, if to them, Bitcoin be a religion, then i would like to ask..
- Where do they worship it?
    -Is here on Bitcointalk or the cryptocurrency exchanges?
Bitcoin is a cryptocurrency that is spendable the same way fiat is a currency we all spend, they both have their pros and cons, just that in Bitcoin, the pros seems to be far more than the cons, while with fiat, the cons are far more than the pros.
Believing in Bitcoin does not make it a religion, the same way those who still believe in fiat does not see it as a religion.\\
Believing in something is as a result of it power to solve a problem or problems, we believe in Bitcoin because it solve a lot of monetary problems, the same way those who still believe in fiat believe in it because they can spend it to solve their personal issues.
The day Bitcoin or fiat loses its power to solve problems, trust me, people will stop believing in it.

all phrases (not only in the crypto world) are a product of senseless euphoria. most often forced by some small thing that accidentally became viral. For me, the worst is "to the moon" and BS about bitcoin religion taking second place in that frenzy.
a large number of people interested in bitcoin and things around it are mostly IT geeks, and they are prone to exaggeration and imagination. that's where these phrases and hype come from.

a religion is a belief in an entity that you cant see or touch or punish. where you belief that it will make your life better due to pure belief


bitcoin does not need belief. it has code. it has real asics and real utility. if the code does something bad there is punishment for the system(forks get orphaned)

over centuries. ministers/priests set some rules for a community. but them pretend to be just janitors/messengers. where the vapour entity they invent  takes all the blame of the affects of the entity on the community.

bitcoin is not some vapour entity though.
smart people know to hold developers accountable and watch and review the developers instead of pretending bitcoin is a system with no creator of its own

bitcoin is no self created AI. its code made by devs. yes they dont like to be interrogated and yes devs wish to pretend to only be ministers/messengers/priests of a vapour entity no one can harm.. but thats not how bitcoin works.. devs are responsible for code changes. its how code changes/evolves after all

decentralising the dev group can ensure no (ad)minister can have outright control of code changes. which ensures bitcoins elegance survives and does its job. as oppose to those administrators of a central dev group pretending that bitcoin is some religious system where they are just messengers promoting new religious law

You're saying most people believe bitcoin is a religion?
How and where did you get the conclusion of a statement like this?
You assume people who believe and have faith in bitcoin as an investment would make them think it's a religion?
I think of course belief in bitcoin is not at all the same as our belief in a religion.
Confidence and trust in bitcoin is one of our efforts to prosper by investing.
Faith and belief in religion is the main foundation and foundation for us to live this life.

Of course not at all. I believe bitcoin is a good investment asset and not as a religion.
If there really are people who treat bitcoin as a religion, I think that is very narrow thinking and does not make sense.

i dont "believe and have faith" because i dont need it. i have confidence and trust(in my own data) of verification that validates with others verification,, there is no beleif

i dont look at the sky high ATH as my value indicator. where i have to have hope and belief of it staying in the sky
 
i look at the progressively raising sea level of the low as my value indicator. knowing and having confidence that 2017 low of $700 and 2022 low of $15k means value has increased by 20x in 5 years. and that the raising levels of value are protected by alot of real world fundamentals supporting it, not hype or sentiment or belief

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however there is a more than insignificant few that do look to the sky and hope. and they will say bitcoins price is just pure vapour of belief in a price, backed by nothing but mystical randomness of unpredictable events.

yes the market speculation (which sits above the periodic value lows) is alot of mixed sentiment and belief in their choice. but thats not value. thats price discovery testing of the next periods new bottom level(value) which would be above the last/current where there is real world support backing it via many mechanisms and real world costs of hardware

I disagree with you, I don't think that most sees bitcoin as a religion. Whoever said that is just speculating that everybody thinks that bitcoin is a religion.

What is better to think is that, this is a community, a movement for which comes from different parts of the world.

With that in belief, that means that religions make money so as bitcoin if perceived as a religion?

No.

Religion is something that is certain, not something that is volatile and fluctuating. No matter how much you believe in Bitcoin, you should not consider it a religion. Bitcoin is a part of our lives while religion for some people is a way of life that is owned for every step up to the hereafter. These beliefs are very different, so it is not right if someone who believes in Bitcoin thinks this is a religion.

I don't see any connection between Religion and Bitcoin, and what possibility of making money with minimal effort? what does it mean?

In any case, you may want to read the following threads below as this has been discussed many times in this community.

As early as 2013, (there could be earlier discussions though).

• Bitcoin, the Religion?! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1092155.0)
• Is Bitcoin a religion? Satoshi is our God? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=311384.0)
• How should Satoshism, the religion of Bitcoin, organise its church? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2211879.0)
• The "Church"(call it whatever you want) of Bitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141757.0)
• Church of Bitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2071235.0)

It is not a must to trust bitcoin or believe in it. It is not also a must to invest in Bitcoin or to learn about it, there are many people in the world who will not learn about bitcoin till eternity.

However, here is a bitcoin forum so the majority of people that you'll meet here are lovers and believers of Bitcoin. In my opinion I would say that the majority of people we see today in Bitcoin are not true lovers and believers of Bitcoin. We should give credit to the true believers of Bitcoin as the early adopters of Bitcoin who believed when bitcoin when it worth nothing.
We are all here today because bitcoin has made sun rises that gave people profits, we are here because of the opportunity that bitcoin present. Majority of us here today are not willing to defend the cause of Bitcoin, we are are here to benefit from Bitcoin.
So it is not a must to believe in Bitcoin and do not be surprised to see people here who doesn't believe in bitcoin.
Besides not everyone believes in fiat currency and yet we all use fiat.

Obviously it is not a religion. Religions need believers, not verifiers.

And that makes us a community. Each and everyone of us believes in Bitcoin because it is not in the hands of one person or company. Its code is open for everyone to read. Everyone who understood the Bitcoin whitepaper understood what Bitcoin can do and will do.

Its all a matter of mathematical proof. And the math says we should hodl Bitcoin while posting Bitcoin memes. ;D

days ago there was an article which said that around 80% of those who invested in bitcoins have practically lost money as they have started to accumulate satoshis with higher prices than the current ones. :(

I think that who enter into this field believing to make money they the ones who make a net loss or at best get a break even.

bitcoin was not created to enrich people but to create free people!


there is trust on bitcoin because it is based on some mathematical rules that make it reliable in the same way so many events in our lives are reliable.
from here to define it as a religion, in short, this is not the case.
maybe some fanatic, maybe a little all of us enthusiasts see life in excellent "bitcoin" but this doesn't mean it's a religion :)

No, but I see Bitcoin as essential tool to improve the financial system of every country.  Not because we are believing in Bitcoin means we are faithfully attached to it.  Trust and faith may sound the same but they have a different level of meaning.  Besides, I always think that missing out on something is a doom for that person.  Somewhere in the future the same opportunity will knock again so all those who missed out just have to be vigilant and observant next time.

I've never considered bitcoin as a religion, but as an investment, and I'm also not sure anyone considers bitcoin as a religion,
but if you say Bitcoin is the possibility of making money with a little effort, 50% I agree because for people who have large amounts of money they will easy invest in this bitcoin, but for those who have limited money it takes process and effort to have 1 btc in the wallet they

I personally wouldn't consider this a religion because even though I really like bitcoin but I don't come to that point by saying this is a religion because for me religion is something that is quite sacred on the other hand I still consider this a commodity and of course an investment material which is no different from gold or real estate.
But talking about this, I've actually seen some people who really make it seem as if bitcoin is a religion and Satoshi is considered a prophet.
even in this case isn't there one activist for them to call McCook who incidentally is a respected civil engineer in Sydney and he clearly considers bitcoin to be his version of religion.
I also found some interesting articles related to this.

https://theconversation.com/why-are-people-calling-bitcoin-a-religion-175717 (https://theconversation.com/why-are-people-calling-bitcoin-a-religion-175717)
https://cointelegraph.com/magazine/is-bitcoin-a-religion-if-not-it-soon-will-be/ (https://cointelegraph.com/magazine/is-bitcoin-a-religion-if-not-it-soon-will-be/)

What is there to connect bitcoin to religion. Some people who are much into religious belief, had a dilemma whether to use bitcoin or not. Further they connected it with religion and looked to find a solution for the same. Further this is made into discussion and people had different views of connecting it to religion. There is nothing to do with religion, it is an innovation that have helped remove the intermediary.

Such a thought or phrase is actually a matrix of opinion created and extended in people who do not understand the use of perhaps the paraphrasing of said opinions and understand them literally.

 So they get confused and want to associate the idea of ​​a terminology to the bitcoin theme.

 However!  What's the point here... Subscribe, if you come across an organization called the church of bitcoin.  If there are someone! let me know.

I don't really understand your question that looks very confusing to me and I hope to read your post again so I can grab more info from your thought. Bitcoin is not a religion, it a currency that we can use to execute somethings that we really need to get going. Bitcoin is growing and keep growing so we just need to be patient and get from the crypto market

I would tend to disagree with you on that. Bitcoin is not a religion.
I haven’t come across a single individual that sees bitcoin as a religion and a must to believe in it. Personally, I think it’s absurd to adopt bitcoin as a religion. I don’t know where you got your statistics that made you claim that most people see bitcoin as a religion.

And the possibility of making money with very minimal effort with bitcoin in my opinion, is also false. Acquiring and holding bitcoin would only bring some benefit to you financially only if you hold for the long run and that takes a whole load of effort to do so.

Bitcoin isn’t a religion and should never be seen as such. If people are looking for some sort of being or entity to worship and follow, I’m available  ;D

I don't really get it when someone says Bitcoin is a religion or something the people are worshipping or longing for it and stuff like that.
Then I'll have to ask back, does money  a God? Coz people do everything they can in their might and are willing to sacrificr just to get it.
Well, the answer to both question is obviously no.
People patronised Bitcoin not because they put their faith in it, we use it because of it's features and the ability to give us good profit in the long run.

The currency you use is a massive part of your lifestyle. bitcoin is founded on the idea of moving away from a system that is on its way to self-implosion. The system is quite heavily adopted...by billions in fact. Someone telling you that your love, enthusiasm, passion, and excitement about bitcoin is "fanatical", is them just being stupid. Plain and simple. That person has something they are also passionate about, and you most definitely aren't out there calling them on it.

Most people on this forum know that Bitcoin is not a religion and that it has nothing to do with religions in fact, so it appears that those who think it is a religion are very shallow in their understanding, sorry for the term but that's what I see.

We know that bitcoin was made by Nakamoto as one of the ways or keys to get out of any way for anyone who wants to get out of the hardships of life in our era. And even with the modern technology that we have we can also help the economy of each country through blockchain technology.

There are delusional people, who believe that Bitcoin will become the global currency of the future. This doesn't nessecarily mean that they view Bitcoin as religion. I definitely don't see Bitcoin as some religious cult and I don't think that Bitcoin is going to fully replace fiat currencies.
Some people exploited the "cult status" of Bitcoin/crypto by fanatically repeating the good old "crypto good, banks bad" mantra. FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried are the most obvious example. Crypto isn't perfect and the banks are far from being the worst thing in the world.

I think what people mean by referring Bitcoin as religion is their strong faith in this digital currency (I have seen people in many countries worshipping their trees, vehicles or anything that helps them to make their living) because it created many new Millionaires during the past 15 years. The investment of few dollars 15 years ago has changed the fortune of those who believed in its potential to grow massively, but important thing to note is that these investors had strong faith in Bitcoin.

Trust in Bitcoin is different with trust in religion, I don't know why you have such thought and mix it together.

Bitcoin is just a decentralized currency that aim to solve against third party who want to control everything in our life including privacy, but most people see Bitcoin as an investment since Bitcoin can give a high return from the past history. If there's a people who invest all of his funds and only wait until Bitcoin reach ATH without doing anything, he have a problem since we don't know how much the highest price that Bitcoin could reach and only invest what you can afford to lose.

People might talk about bitcoins a lot but I don't think they worship it and take it as their deity. it's just people are enthusiastic about its potential and they want everyone to know about it and decide on their own if they wish to invest in it or not. They also support it by the way of clearing it from the mainstream media and are obviously paid by the banks to spread false accusations regarding it. There's no extraordinary work here, it's just simply some good things that are being shared.

Probably not a completely correct comparison! But what kind of connection can there be?? Religion and digital currency?? It seems to me that there is very little connection here! It's just very hard to find any direct connection. Personally, I don't trace any connection here! Although I do not exclude the possibility that there may be worship in something here. It is difficult to understand what the author of this topic meant by this concept!

You really misunderstood it. We see bitcoin as an investment rather than a religion to be worshipped. Bitcoin is an investment from which we can profit. I know it hurt your feelings, but it is all for profit and money because we all want to earn money, and bitcoin is the key to that. It is not about religious beliefs or anything else; it is only about us gaining money so we can buy our daily necessities. Minimal effort is also not true since as a newbie you are still struggling at first to learn and earn from it; you can simply say that it is minimal effort if you have money to buy bitcoin and hold it for a few years. 

Religion and Bitcoin?
Just how do they correlate! I have searched my mind and can't find any. The point remains that, some things just don't go and that's just how it is when we look at bitcoin and region.

One is money, valued in exchanges (goods and services) while the other is the belief of an individual or a people. There isn't any relativism at that point. We got several currencies or money and non still have been looked at towards a way to life with respect to religion.

But we could use money, Bitcoin to promote or support our various religion. Without money, nothing really moves.

I will explain below to enlighten you on what’s the connection of the original topic about Bitcoin and Religion that OP describing. There some group of people like Bitcoin maxi believes that Bitcoin is all we need and will gonna survive. They put there faith for Bitcoin future price as if they are worshipping  it. The definition of religion is just simply having faith and worship on to something that will give you what are wishing for in your life.

Don’t view the topic as literal religion like worshipping to a supreme deity since religion has a wide scope and varies depends on the people perspective. Some people worship rock, nature, animals, money and something they can’t see. I think this the whole parameters people thinks when they are comparing Bitcoin as religion and not the typical spiritual type.

The crazy price gain makes user become a fanatic on Bitcoin investment because your life can be change if got lucky on your Bitcoin investment like what happened to all those users who invested on Bitcoin on its early stage.

This is how I view bitcoin too.
There are those who see fiat as a religious entity as well, so there is no difference in the two.
It is just those individuals who puts either of these on a pedestal and decide to worship them for whatever reason that might be.
There are bitcoin maximalists so it could be a cult status thing but only if you want to view it as such.

No, of course, Bitcoin is not a religion....

Bitcoin is a decentralized financial system, an alternative to the traditional centralized financial system.  Bitcoin is a very convenient tool for making cross-border money transfers and payments. 

Modern commercial banks do not perform their functions efficiently enough.  The central banks of developed countries are also pursuing extremely inadequate monetary and financial policies, which leads to global crises and recessions in the world economy.  That is why the importance and role of Bitcoin is gradually growing. 

Bitcoin is becoming the standard for private money.  Bitcoin is a brilliant invention of our time - a gift to all mankind!

Fiat is a religion for miser and greedy individuals who have as their only goal in life to grow their financial status, doesn't matter what they have to do to accomplish it.

And when people say "bitcoin isn't a religion" it's a criticize to the most fanatic bitcoin adopters, who don't accept bitcoin has its flaws and disadvantages, like any other thing in our material world. For them, bitcoin is a perfect currency and people who don't share their point of view are "heretics", literally.

Bitcoin is not a religion. And I don’t think most people see bitcoin as a religion and a must to believe in like you stated.
According to you, people believe in bitcoin cause of the possibility of making money with minimal effort. Following your logic, we could as well worship the dollar. Or perhaps worship gold, silver, diamonds. We could even go a step further to worship anything valuable cause it brings the possibility of making money with minimal effort.

This is without a doubt, Bitcoin is a very important asset that people who believe in it hold in high regard due to its value and transparency, but that does not mean people worship it.


Taking the Bitcointalk forum as an example, you can see that even though the forum is anonymous, many people here have different approaches that have something to do with religion and has clearly proven that we here in the forum are not worshiping the same thing, which means we have different religion; Nonetheless, Bitcoin unites us here, and that love we have for Bitcoin lives together here as one.

Yes, I understand you roughly! I haven't heard much about such a group (bitcoin maxi), does this word mean Bitcoin maximalist?? Is it possible to say that this is a sect? Of course! there is no need to approach this topic based on religious beliefs and rules, but can this group be classified as sects? It seems to me that these people believe very strongly in the idea of Bitcoin. I think they show a lot of attention with regards to Bitcoin and probably for this reason, these groups seem strange. In a sense, this can be called not normal and to be more precise, this is a cult based on bitcoin and to some extent it can be described as worship!

Bitcoin is a digital asset and a investment here anyone can invest so here religion is doesn’t matter like business . People of different religions are not doing the same business in different places? it is simple thing In the same way people of any religion can invest in Bitcoin.  And since Bitcoin is a decentralized digital asset, it is not possible to track how many Bitcoins are being used by any religion. So everyone is considered equal there and  There is no difference of religion

Indeed, it is not religion, but a revolutionary & high-tech product of block chain technology which can solve many issues of current financial system based on fiat money which is inflationary, centralized which increases power of the government over its people which is not good at all. Some investors are so much emotionally attached to Bitcoin that they refer it as new religion.

Again and again nobody says or said that bitcoin is a religion. Please I will like you to provide the thread you said, you saw that bitcoin is a religion. You who post this thread does not understand or know what is bitcoin. Teaching religion leaders or religion believers about bitcoin is different.

Moderators should delete this thread. This thread is shit. OP provide the thread link that you saw the Bitcoin is Religion. To cry it loud and clear, BITCOIN is a digital currency for exchange. So how bitcoin related to religion. OP if you don't have anything to write up then read more in the forum to learn more.

I'm not sure what the OP means exactly, but we can never classify Bitcoin as a religion because people from all different religions around the world use it and profit from it. I've never heard of any religious issues with Bitcoin. Because nobody here knows each other's relegations and none of us are worshiping Bitcoin, the forum has brought us together because we both love the Bitcoin technology.

I wouldn't really consider it to be that big. Religion is so huge that people literally conquered lands and killed and enslaved people just to "progress religion to everywhere", and bitcoin people do not have that. Yes there is this overstating things to make it more realistic, but there has been wars and even plagues because of religion, 1/3 of all Europe died because of religion at some point.

I am sorry but bitcoin people are nowhere near that level, we do believe that it is the answer to most financial problems in the world, but that is about it, nothing more. This means it's something we love, but not something we would die or kill for at all, not even close.

Religion is a way of life of a people and I don't see Bitcoin like a way of life of a people neither is it a custom except that it's just a source of investment just like every other economic businesses of the day.

Just because Bitcoin is perceived to be an alternative to fiat and other decentralized means of finance which many of us believes it to be a good thing based on the individual  control and privacy we enjoy, still that doesn't make it a religious precept and as such could never be but just an economic based tool.

I haven't heard anybody saying bitcoin is a religion before or maybe am from different part of the world, nobody is forcing anyone to believe in bitcoin, it's a choice, you can either choose to believe in it or not, their are lot's of people that still say bitcoin is rubbish and I don't blame them, that's just their own opinion, I can only enlightening them more about bitcon, the uses and advantages, but I can never force them to invest in bitcoin, if you don't believe in bitcoin is your choice we all know that bitcoin is just an investment.

Bitcoin is not a religion because at the beginning of creation there was no wealth of human money and metal but environment. Similarly Bitcoin is only a virtual currency created by man. You should never prioritize it as a religion, it has become a significant part of our lives. One of our means of investment. Millions of people earn money directly and indirectly through Bitcoin. So it is not that it will prevail as our religion. Because religion teaches people to live spiritually and Bitcoin helps people economically.

“Many scientists believe that the human brain is innately religious—or at least that people tend to believe in something greater than themselves.”
"Any kind of belief system, whether you're a liberal or a progressive or whatever, is kind of like a religion. It's a philosophy that influences your decisions and shapes your moral outlook on issues. There's a kind of ambiguity limit."

Take a chill pill man and relax more. I do not agree with the OP on what he said about most people seeing bitcoin as a religion and a must to believe in; as I don’t see bitcoin as a religion but I still don’t think the thread is shit and should be deleted.

The mods too don’t think it shitty to delete as it’s still up. That’s why the forum is unique as all questions no matter how ignorant and dumb they may seem are entertained.
If mods go about deleting threads that some members consider shitty, how then would members learn anything?

Bitcoin isn't even a religion in the first place! if Bitcoin is a religion, we need to pray in specific day, like a Christian who pray every Sunday morning. Bitcoiners or Bitcoin enthusiast wouldn't need to pray and there's no God in Bitcoin, Satoshi himself is a human and he's just very clever among other people. Do you think Albert Einstein, Alexander Graham Bell. Nikola Tesla, and Stephen Hawking are Gods?

Religion? who would even think of that?
Butcoin is indeed a profitable investment but obviously it is far from religion which is more of belief of something which resembles 'conduct' to its believers. These things are just too away from one another.
Praying is just a tool to communicate and if that's the case, whose entity would we want to communite? Satoshi? Silly.

I'm really surprised that there will be people (if this is even true that there are individuals thinking of such thing) to literalize "praising money" which is in the first place is just a figure of speech, which simply means an individual is looking that much  of how powerful money is. The analogy you used with scientists and their creations are the best example. But if and only if you know someone who think of such way to cryptocurrency, please advice him to seek for professional help.

Praying is a medium of each religion by which a person requests something good or bad from his creator.  Bitcoin is just a currency and it is known as a valuable currency worldwide.  How can it be compared to a religion?  Religion is acquired by every man by his birth . Meanwhile, Bitcoin can be bought and sold by anyone at any time. Can religion ever be traded? So how can one compare bitcoin to religion ? lol

I also believe that Bitcoin is not a religion and I don't think anybody is there to worship it. In first place I see Bitcoin as alternative for fiat currency and also as a investment,and that is why many religion people come to invest in it. I believe nobody will sake anything from thing that is being traded and in fact doesn't have stable price.

To me this is just another form of FUD, they are trying to describe bitcoin holders as some sort of fanatics that want to bring everyone to their cult and if you are not part of them then you are against them.

And this is not true, I do not care at all if other people believe bitcoin is a scam or a Ponzi, they are free to believe whatever they want and time will tell who is right, and so far bitcoin holders have been proven right for more than a decade.

Yes, money is the most important thing when you don’t have faith, and people around you are all about money first. After you have faith, you will find that the habitat of your soul is important to you. Bitcoin may be A religion but he will not take away our original belief, this religion may be a belief that will restructure our material life order.

I think you are very loosely using the word "religion" here. I don't think that just because there are people who believe so much in bitcoin they view it as a religion.

Obviously not, I believe in what change bitcoin can do but I do not view it as a religion.

I dont see Bitcoin as religion and I think no one should. Is it because of the belief about the price that's why you asked this question? Many people (including me) are believing the price of Bitcoin will skyrocket in the future but it doesn't mean we consider it as a religion because it's a different thing. For me, Bitcoin is a digital currency, a speculative asset that can bring profit if you invest and able to wait for the perfect time to sell.

In my opinion, religion is the same as our beliefs and rules which contain orders and prohibitions that must be obeyed, and religion teaches goodness that will guide us in life later.

and what does it have to do with bitcoin, bitcoin is only for investment or as an asset just like investment and other trusted assets that can make a profit, And in the same way you buy cheap things and resell them at a higher price to make a profit, bitcoin is not worshiped and also no one asked for his prayers so it is completely against religion.

I cold heartedly agree Bitcoin isn't a religion. It's a digital currency that enables secure, instant payments to anyone, anywhere in the world. Bitcoin is open-source and completely decentralized, meaning it's not controlled by any single entity. This makes it an ideal currency for online transactions and helps to keep your information private and secure. The fact that it is rarely used for legal purposes puts it even further but the again depend on the religion xD.

Bitcoin is not a religion, and it is forever not a religion.
 
Also when there are people who strongly believe in Bitcoin does not mean that the person considers Bitcoin as a religion but rather that Bitcoin has the same as a form of investment because it can provide profit.

Just like when someone believes in gold, property as an investment that can provide profits or also when you trust someone because he is worthy of trust will not make what is believed as a religion

Bitcoin is not a religion, these are two different things. Religion is a particular system of faith and worship of a supernatural power, in religion,there must be something you serve,why bitcoin is a digital currency and a valuable asset that can be acquired.

Believing in Bitcoin,is just like believing in an idol that can disappoint you at anytime or even when you need it the most. Bitcoin has brought financial freedom to the world and that was the purpose of its creation. Religion teaches us good morals and on how to live our lives in other not to be of bad eggs to the society.

We call it an investment. Religion and investment are not the same and will never be the same; it is really self-explanatory. I don't know why the OP said that some people are believing that bitcoin is a religious concept, though it is only for us to earn profit and money. People really need money, which is why they are really investing in those things from which they can benefit, such as gold, properties, and bitcoin, but when it comes to religion, we really have our own beliefs, but mostly money is not involved.

bitcoin is not a religion, bitcoin is still a coin, it has nothing to do with religion. and it's impossible for us to worship coins, we should only worship the almighty God.

Literally speaking, bitcoin has nothing to do with religion. It is either OP exaggerated it or the word religion is used as some sort of an idiomatic expression.

Religions around the globe aren't based on science but more on faith. In religion, someone can say 1+1=water while bitcoin is scientific and it is immutable. Bitcoin and its blockchain is a revolutionary invention promoting decentralization, privacy, anti-inflationary, etc. When bitcoin was launched, it created a movement and its hardcore enthusiasts are the believers.

Religion is one thing, Bitcoin is another.  Bitcoin has nothing to do with religion because religion is belief about God's creation.  And religion is the belief that we human beings have a creator who is created.  But we would be wrong to trust Bitcoin and transact invisibly to believe it would be compatible with religion.  Because Bitcoin is a technological blockchain currency that is running to every nation in every country in the world.  So religion and bitcoin are never compatible they are completely different.

It definitely is not, if you consider this simple meaning of the word Religion:
"True Religion is serving our CREATOR in purity and staying away from the corruption of the world ."

But Bitcoin can be a medium/means to serve the CREATOR just as HE is served from different Nations of the world. Serving HIM from where you live doesn't mean that place is a Religion.

When serving the CREATOR via different media, be careful not to get entangled in the bad knowledge and activities of the media. Do not love money. Loving it will make you do different kinds of evil to have more.
If you do right consistently without minding how much bitcoin you earn, Bitcoin will serve you once you are noticed. When it begins to serve you, it will obey/respond to your commands and work against things that try to hurt you.

It is totally absurd to think of bitcoins as a religion. It is just virtual money built on blockchain technology that helps you to build wealth. There’s an ocean of differences like in a religion we pray to god. There’s no such thing related to bitcoins. Please refrain yourself from such mentality.

Bitcoin is not a religion, but there are a lot of Bitcoin evangelists and crypto acolytes. I'm one of them.
Apart from science, Bitcoin is my religion and I'll do anything I can to pass the Bitcoin word along.

Despite what they say about bitcoin, I still think of bitcoin as an investment asset and nothing more. Bitcoin is not a religion, I believe in its potential as a profitable investment asset due to price volatility and rightfully so.

Bitcoin is bitcoin, not a religion and people can easily believe in it more than anything else but should not think that bitcoin is a religion. A person may pray based on their own faith and religion for bitcoin to benefit them, but that still won't change bitcoin's position as an investment asset or currency into something like a religion.

I see bitcoin only as an asset, it has nothing to do with trust, we must remember, we adopt bitcoin only for financial matters, for profit, for me personally like that.

maybe someone is too carried away about people who don't like bitcoin, we can't force someone to agree and like bitcoin, that's their personal right.
bitcoin is a valuable asset, which may one day be more valuable.
do not relate bitcoin with religious beliefs, because bitcoin is not a religious teaching, bitcoin is only an asset for the future, as is gold.

I wouldn't say that bitcoin is a religion per se, what I would say is that I see bitcoin as a movement, a grassroots movement. For people who believe in Bitcoin maybe as a store of value, maybe as a hedge against inflation, maybe as a an asset, they are taking the message of Bitcoin all the philosophy of Bitcoin true everywhere and telling everyone that cares to listen about it because they believe in its utility and its potential for the future.

Agree, Bitcoin is not religion. This has been clear, no debate for me. Religion is religion, what I belief and becomes guidance for my life. Bitcoin is part of my life, but not the whole one. I love Bitcoin so much, but never believed in and never consider Bitcoin as a religion. Nonsense.

That's it. Bitcoin is only one of our assets to enrich us, save our money for the future, and probably make our lives better with good finance from Bitcoin. Bitcoin is also a payment method for paying in some merchants that accept this as a currency, no more than it, moreover if considering it as a religion. This really nonsense.

In this case there are indeed some people who even immediately admit that they have faith in bitcoin like their religion but for me personally I would not consider it a religion especially religion is one of the things that is sacred in my opinion so I can't make this a thing I received.
I like bitcoin, but I don't really believe in bitcoin that deeply, even though I have been able to support my small family and my daily needs thanks to bitcoin.

Our common religions are divine, and they are groups with strong consensus. Bitcoin may also be defined as a special belief after it changes our life structure after obtaining a strong consensus.

I don't know what analogy should I use to answer this, basically, Religion is a guide that introduces and regulates belief and worship of God, but when someone actually says Bitcoin is religion, then who is the god? Satoshis? this made a lot of mistakes, I am a person who also believes in Bitcoin in the future with a handful of hopes for profits that bring light to my life, but I do not worship it because indeed Bitcoin is a human product that is trusted for financial freedom and investment sets. apart from that context in my opinion nothing else. if someone really thinks Bitcoin is a religion I think that is their right and I will not comment on it.

The analogy doesn't have to be structural, who is the god or who is the worshiper. What is meant here is how one's attitude towards other people who have different views or knowledge about bitcoin. Because some people can be racist when they defend their religion and rather force others to believe.

No I do not, but bitcoin has a mission. The mission is the freedom of the financial world and it is accomplished by a widespread use of bitcoin. So yes in my eyes it is good to tell as much people as possible about bitcoin, since only that way it is usable.

The word "religion" is absurd when used to describe what is actually a "movement" that aims to replace the established financial system. Tradfi has failed us in many areas of the economy, if you compare what fiat has accomplished in the last 30 years to what bitcoin has accomplished in the last 10 years, you will want to choose bitcoin over fiat. People from all over the world have started to use Bitcoin, and its use is increasing daily, ever since they learned that it can protect them against inflation and serve as a means of investment. Despite the criticism we have received from those who don't like it, the spread is at its height.

I think what the OP means is that when things are believed more than it should be, it is now a religion. Most people believe that it is a crime not to hodl Bitcoin.
Some people believe that it is a crime to buy any other coins apart from bitcoin.
People should just see bitcoin for what is it and don't try to be extremist in bitcoin activities because bitcoin is not a religion.

Bitcoin is one of the best ways to make money by investing, an easy way to store large amounts of wealth together and safely, as well as a secure means of transacting any amount of money anywhere in the world, it has made our lives easier, that's all, but Bitcoin is no god.

That is the biggest problem with bitcoin enthusiasts. They love bitcoin so much to the point of fanaticism where they look at bitcoin as if it can't do no wrong, like it's the shitcoin killer, or the solution to the imbalance of power we experience in our modern society. These problems no matter how idealistic your approach may be, isn't going to be solved by a single cryptocurrency that it itself is being controlled by whales and the flow of the market. Bitcoin is a revolutionary project, a coin with a future, a venture people can look into and invest in. It shouldn't go beyond that.

Religion has to do with believe and trust, Bitcoin is trustless which is why some bitcoin holders take bitcoin to be some form of asset that price can increase quickly making them to make huge profits and become rich in a short time, but some other bitcoin users have more knowledge so they can graph through the bitcoin chart to build indept knowledge, to note that bitcoin does not follow a predictable pattern of movement and based on that.

Their ability to prepare for whatever happens during the cost of their bitcoin holding and not rush to take action when bitcoin did not perform according to their expectations, as if there is some form of promise or trust in the Bitcoin network.

According to the Oxford e-dictionary, religion is the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods.
 As you can see from the revered reference, there is no where it can be said or noted that money or bitcoin is a religion.
Bitcoin and money is all about economy and finance there is no correlation between bitcoin and religion. Bitcoin is a store of value which means it can be used for the place of fiat as payment for services rendered or goods  as the case maybe. It is an investment plan to some while to some it is a means of trading and all narrows down to making profit.
Since I got knowledge of bitcoin, I am yet to see where it is said or written to worship bitcoin.

I think your review regarding the opinion above is not true.
Religion is a belief and belief that a person has to be able to devote themselves.
I think what is meant by the review above regarding someone's belief or belief in bitcoin is the same or similar to believing in a religion, not a person who does not hold bitcoin is a criminal or does not buy coins other than bitcoin is a crime.
So please always look carefully and understand the gist of someone's statement before you can give your opinion on that statement.

Broadly speaking, I said that bitcoin is not a religion, yes, for me, there is nothing to debate about. From my point of view, a very significant difference between bitcoin and religion. In short, bitcoin is bitcoin and religion is religion. I will not make a problem when there are people who see bitcoin as their religion because maybe they see it from a different point of view, it is legal as long as no one is harmed in this case.
For me, religion is my spiritual about what I believe in, so this is something different from bitcoin.

Religion is about one's belief in a creator. Belief in something certainly has a limit, such as my belief in Bitcoin will certainly not exceed belief in religion.
I read positively into this topic and don't interpret it to mean anything else, but it's better if discussions like this are avoided for fear that they can be skewed with various different interpretations.

In general, Bitcoin is just a cryptocurrency with many advantages. I think that's about it.

Some people may see Bitcoin as religion because it has devoted beliefs that revolutionize the current system of payment, such as, Free movement of money without any constrains of traditional money transfer system. It is a way to take control of your finance and move it the way you want without any restriction. it is also a digital Gold and store of value which is very secure and decentralized.

Literally, Bitcoin is not a religion in traditional sense but because of its characteristic, for some people it may look like religion.