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They say two good heads are better than one, I couldn't agree more. Here's a an unconventional betting strategy that me and my friends have come up with to bet on some of the world cup games. I totally love it because we have cashed out about $1000 since the games began. Also, it minimized the losses and everyone goes home happy.

The strategy -  We created one betting account with a local gambling site prior to the World Cup Games. We all contribute equal amount of money to fund the wallet. And using different analysis we place our bets on at least 3 of the world cup games every day.

For me it has a lot of advantages -

- it minimizes losses
- it reduces the chances of being addicted
- it helps to build bonding. We hang out. We watch the game and we have fun.
- We have a budget and we stick to it. It sorts of builds accountability.

Do you have a unconventional betting strategy that have been working for you? Do Share.

Better for you guys but for me , I really don't see this as a strategy to betting but a collective effort to raise betting funds, just saying from my perspective though.
You would have atleast listed the analysis you guys used and how well it has worked for you guys with proves if possible.
I hope greed doesn't come when there is a big win and that is one reason I really don't like collective efforts to doing things as regards to money

Looks great as you share the pain when you lose money and that is really the best advantage that you get from this "strategy".The second one is that the knowledge is better shared when two or more people discuss together before placing the bets and now with technology this is fairly easy to discuss through our chatting apps in our mobile phones if we cannot discuss it head to head.I never thought of such "strategy" before because in life I am always taught to be an individualist rather than doing team work,maybe not a good thing but that is who I am.I like this idea a lot though,I have no strategy to share as there are no real strategies in gambling,everybody does as much as they can to win money.

It's good to see you have someone to discuss with before you bet. For some of us are just checking on our own and reading some analysis of someone else. If you bot are making a profit from what you are doing then why not. I'm not however comfortable having a partner who involves betting my money even if we are friends. I hope you guys win more and celebrate more and do not end up fighting over the money you won.

that is definitely a cool strategy
betting would probably make me more interested in watching the games  hahaha ::)
not the biggest football fan here

what do you do if you come to a stalemate where you want to bet on some result and your friend wants a different one?
or is it like 3 games and 3 friends each one choosing just one result?

everything can be solved and not make things complicated. it can be settled with rock, paper, scissors.
but you're right. watching games is a lot fun than just concentrating more of your loss when you are alone weeping over a soccer loss. if you win, you drink your booze together. when you lose, you drink together still.

Your analysis is the strategy and not the way how you guys get a capital to invest because that's the thing which contributed to the outcome, so that would be more helpful to be posted in this topic which you may consider. Well, what highlighted on my end is the bond which you have mentioned. Atleast whether you guys win or not (ofcourse winning would be more preferred), you have enjoyed the experience itself which is not evident to many gamblers who are just seeking money from this activity or industry in general.  What is unconventional on my end is betting at night. I am not even having basis with this one, but as I have observed my guesses turns out to be winning bets. I consider it as a coincident but I'm on a 2 week straight wins already. Maybe our brain is just more active at night which helps us to analyze accurately.

It’s good to discuss with your friend about the gambling sites.Because some fake sites was in current condition.So it’s essential to check before play or registration to the gambling sites.You should ask the people about the withdrawal limit in the gambling sites.Because some site will allow to do withdraw after the kyc verification,most of the gamblers will not like the kyc verification.When you made a partnership with the experience guy,you will get huge profit from it.You can join him as investment partner and split the profit.

It's just good because there will be more brains to analyze the game but it's not different from tailing a bet, like on this forum. Those who share their picks and a bunch of gamblers follow it which means it could really hit the winning ticket.
I am happy you are doing it with your friends, I just hope it won't create a conflict when you win big and also about how the profits will be shared if you have different amounts that were put in.
Not really a strategy but more like enhancing the way to enjoy every game with money on the line.

Are you just three friends that funded the account? If yes, then you bet at least 3 games during the World Cup then I think it's fine since you can all agree that one individual has its time when to choose to bet because if 3 or more person are funding it then it should have a consensus on who will place the bets.

we would better understand your betting strategy if you tell us more about the analysis you doing to place the bets.

It sounds like your method of gambling that you're using with your friend has resulted in some genuine fun.  That's the best you can hope for when gambling.  Whether you win or lose, you have gotten some good memories and built a stronger relationship with someone you know.  That's great.  I figured your strategy would be something else entirely, but it seems like you've found the essence of what gambling entertainment is about.  I hope you and your friend can keep this going and no falling out ever happens over petty gambling issues.  Remember what it's really about and enjoy!

Soccer has 3 possible outcomes... Win, Lose, or Draw, and if you and your friend bets on 2 of them, then the odds are on your side, but here the issue is: One of your bets will always lose. So, even if you are making a profit, this is not the max profit because while you reduce the risk you reduce the profit too.

But the strategy sounds nice and is great to read that you and your friends already made $1000 from it, so, keep it up.

Good gambling strategy you guys came up with, some persons loves discussing their game with people before they place a bet on the game to share ideas and analyze  that game,while some gamblers prefer making research alone,it all depends on the kind of gambler that we are.

I don't really like the idea,since nobody is to be trusted when it comes to money,you guys can begin to have issues of money on a gamble that won big,money have scattered so many friendship that I have seen and this will make me not bet with anyone. Money makes people change so easily,as for the fun aspect of watching the match together and drinking or so,it is lovely since I am that kind of person that can't watch football match alone because it will not be fun to me,I love  watching and gisting  with someone abot the  ongoing game.

I hope your story will not end up like that of a live story of kelvin and his friend, whom they both plqce a bet together and win but the other one outsmarted his friend to claim the tickets and ran away, funny enough bthe winning was big, anything that has to do with collaboration or collective efforts in gambling is somewhat questionable, we shouldn't only look at he present but eo consider the future consequences that might come in through such decision.


Your choice is not mine, that's what works for you lucky enough if this isn't your first time doing such, but many may not like this kind.


I only bseek opinions from fellow gamblers before engaging the bet and we share ideas but not collaboration with gambling, everyone is independent.

Mine it's simple
- Fund/amount from free balance
- All-in 3-4x times
- If you success, have a good bankroll for started.

Most of people are to scared do that even with 10$, just do all-in with freebalance because you're not gonna to lose anything. Fun fact about all-in, I have experience win more than 1000$ with doing this.

Lose, not really losing because the fund from free balance. If win, got a jackpot.

Every one had their own strategy by the experience,So it can used wisely in upcoming bets.Learn from mistakes is the essential one to avoid of loss.One should satisfy with the minimum loss,then it will avoid of big loss.But the greedy people think,they will win for sure.But quit with the minimum loss is essential one to save from big loss.

Secondly you should avoid of getting addicted to the gambling.You should use the gambling to have fun instead of seeking of win all the time.Win is not a destination,you will win once you gain good knowledge from it.

most of the time people just fight because they think differently or when one listens to the other and loses money they start to argue and accuse each other because one thinks that the other did it on purpose to lose money, just be careful, money causes other people start hating you


I'm sorry for asking this question, but how can this strategy be profitable and minimize risks if the 3 games in each game have different odds? if you bet the same amount of money on the 3 games and the 3 games have different odds then it can happen that you only hit 2 games that have low odds and you don't make a profit, you end up with losses, anyway, I still think it's risky to do that


as I said before, I honestly don't see it minimizing losses, and about addiction, it also doesn't minimize chances of you becoming addicted, nothing guarantees that one of your friends won't be playing without you knowing, there's no way you can be watching 20 hours a day


I just use conventional strategies, that's all. I prefer not to be investing strategies

Of course, we have done strategies and shared ideas with friends in football betting, especially the World Cup bet on Qatar and it was successful with a perfect victory, it happened in the Qatar vs. Senegalese, my friend put up a score of 1-3 on the basis of analysis and predictions that ended in victory, I put portugal vs. Grana with a score of 3-2 and another friend guessed the score for England vs. Iran with a score of 3 England 2 for Iran, even though the final result was 6-2, but we still won.

The strategy of betting one club with one person is a good opportunity to achieve glorious results, if we commit three different club bets, if one bet loses, we still win two bets, what is certain is that the quotient is the same, even if one fails, regarding the budget, of course we also determine the agreement of one club and one bettor, the budget is so and so $$, the quotient is the same.

The strategy that we do in betting is called the betting strategy 'Commitment' to each other on the basis of an agreement, no one is allowed to violate it.

I would say that you and your friends are shaking the boat called "friendship" right now, instead of having a collective discussion. Your strategy works only until you suffer your first loss. First loss, first whole in your boat and good bye friendship. There is 1000% an alpha in your team. Some, whos opinion is 0.01% more valuable than others. Your first huge loss will show who is the weakest link in your team. There will the case, when someone will disagree with placed bet. Believe me. When money are involved, all that "friend and collective decision" thing does not work well in gambling and business.

I think it's really nice when groups of people do analysis about some matches before placing bets, atleast everyone will come up with their points of view, then you can compare everyone's prediction. But I think contributing money together is a bad idea, have heard it before that two friends contributed money together to place a bet, they were lucky to win the bet, but the person that they used his account to place the bet decided to run with the money after winning and the amount they won was kind of huge amounts, that's why I think contributing money together to gamble is a bad idea, when it comes to money nobody should be trusted, even if the person is your close friend.
I think the best thing is that you can do analysis together but everyone one should use their account to gamble and not to contribute money together.

Did miss something or where is your strategy? Maybe I understood it wrong, but basically you and your friends are sharing one betting account together and place bets on 3 matches per day. Since there are only 3 matches you are placing bets on every world Cup match. I like the approach to place bets together with your friends. Like you said this reduces the risk of making a big loss. It also gives the chance that everybody follows different teams more closely and you can make better predictions. Now I am wondering what your initial bankroll was to get a profit 1,000 USD. For me it's been a while since I placed bets together with my friends. We still talk about betting but everybody is having his own account. We have a betting pool at work where everybody paid 5 Euros and gave their two picks for the final match and the winner. Among my colleagues I have only two guys who bet regularly like. I would call my betting strategy very conventional, I only bet on win/lose or a draw. Making exact score predictions didn't really work out for me, so I am sticking with the normal bets.

it's an interesting way but I don't have a lot of capital to make lots of bets like that because there have been some big defeats that I've experienced since the beginning of the world cup from the argentina match which was lost by saudi arabia and germany lost to japan, at that time I no longer bet much on world cup matches especially for both countries argentina and germany as it reminds me of previous defeats

You are gambling with your friends in a way it would not be addictive, but do not think you win because you come up together, loss can come at any time. If you are using huge amount, it will be good to lower it down to an amount you are comfortable with. If you bet together or not, always know that you people have chance of losing as you have chance of winning, the chance of making profit while betting that betting sites gives is favouring the betting site more. But if you know you are not becoming addictive with that, it is good.

The main advantage of his strategy is to play side by side with friends, while watching the games and cheering together. I believe it's more exciting to bet the way they are doing, but after all, the loss or the profit will be the same for everyone. They say to be spending less money, because the bets are shared, but in case of victory the profit will also be shared, so it's proportional anyway.

Regards addiction, it will depend on each individual. They may not become addicted to gambling because they are strong, responsible and focused individuals, but it doesn't mean another gamblers following the same strategy will be also immune to addiction. Maybe one friend may feel tempted to keep playing at some point until going busted, while others will prefer to give up.

If the betting goes according to the scenario, I don't need friends to join in betting on the same account, especially with the capital that is collected together. but what you do with your friends, is a natural thing. and it's also very effective, as you said in this thread. However, two heads are not always better than one. even if you and your friend have a different analysis, the results will not be much different. because you bet on 3 matches only.

but like you said, if one of you three is lucky. thus, you and your friends get the win. but if not, you all lose.
I know how it works and the scenarios you do with your friends, and it's really very effective. but again, sometimes luck is not always ours. even with 2.3 people. anyways, good luck till this world cup is over.

I bet on one of the competing teams, I also bet on the score as well as the number of goals in that match and other available bets, because it's usually to prevent other losses I bet on the underdog team only and I never split bets on several cup teams world because it was hard to guess it was also even more extravagant

Well if you think it is a strategy worth testing then by all means keep using it to your advantage, after all it's more fun to win when it's with friends. I can see the concept working somehow compared to some of these people who are not so accepting of the concept of it working. The fact that there are more people to discuss statistics, player abilities and counters among other factors could become the deciding factor on whether you will win or not, which are not present in betting alone. Altogether, long as you guys don't stumble upon a massive argument over who's winning who, more so the division of prize money, you guys should be good and i would suggest you keep at it coz having someone to share your small wins with is one of the best feelings in the world.

To you the chances of being addicted to gambling like this may be less, but for another one of your friends, there is the possibility that they begin to quietly like gambling because of the ease with which you people are winning the money, they become prone to continuing even after world cup and becoming addicts even after others stop gambling to focus on other activities. The danger of being addicted is still real.

That's a good strategy because it's fun to play and win with friends but I could say that it isn't reliable all the time. It's a good thing that you'll have all the means and capital to bet but it won't disregard the fact that you can still lose a lot. Gambling will be more addictive if you play it with your friends especially if you're getting good results in the beginning. You might not notice it this early but you'll see its long-term effect in the future.

Indeed, two heads are better than one. The same strategy but at a different betting, well to be honest I had a similar experience but betting on the lottery. I clearly remember our withdraw record was higher than deposit record, meaning we had a good winning record, but unfortunately he moved to another city so our communication was lost until there. Gambling together is very interesting, two heads can also make us calm in carrying out gambling activities. By the way, you and your friends are lucky to win of beting in world cup event, because also it is not easy to win in that event, until now are always surprises at there.

That's good for you if it works together with your friend. IIRC, when I was younger I was with my cousin and we also have the same interest in betting and it also worked well.
But these days, when there's an involvement of finance and money, IMHO, it's better to get detached and avoid having that terms with your friends because that can really end your friendship quickly. But as I've said, if it's working perfectly to both of you then that's better.
By the way, how much share and deposit both of you started?

Two heads to analyze a match, sounds good enough to minimize losses. You have implemented a good strategy while betting on several world cup matches and the results are very decent.
I believe more in my own analysis, before the match starts I always look at the head to head of the two teams that will compete.

The defeats of Argentina vs Saudi Arabia and Germany vs Japan were really unexpected, I think you and your friends don't like the final results of these two matches because they didn't match what had been predicted before. Losing a few dollars in these two matches will not deter bettors, bets will still be made because they have managed to get some money from other matches since the world cup started.

Well, it’s a good strategy I guess if all of you end up equally profitable if you win, and also when you lose. Because when we gamble, we should not only focus on the profits alone, but also the fun and the entertainment it offered to us, and seems you are your partners are benefiting from it. However, on my part, I used to bet alone, I used to win and lose alone. And somehow I also learned from my gambling’s winnings and losses every now and then.

I have a group of buddies who does the same thing and have been for some time.  However it doesn't seem to go as smoothly as it seemingly has for you guys.  They are constantly fighting trying to decide which bets they should make as well as who should be storing the funds.  They use bitcoin and they've just kept the funds on either an exchange or gambling site, which as pissed off those in the group who know better.

For me personally I'm riding solo, too many people creates too much confusion in my eyes.

I also agree that it is not a real strategy but simply a way of betting between two players.

probably, having a budget and saving allowing "all in bets" is already a strategy but players who share this mode are no longer needed and the number of games is also absolutely variable.
Good luck with your gambling efforts ;)

I don't think a group betting strategy will be effective, especially since gamblers don't like partnership. One can discuss and analyze the match with a friend, but being a betting partner with others does not guarantee for you long-term profit, which is why I do not like such games.

just curious, how do you guys make the final decision on what odds bet on? because I can't help but think that there must be one person in your group who disagrees with the decision.

just to clarify, you thought that he and his friends are betting multiple times on the same game? I don't think they are doing that. the OP said that he and his friends are betting on at least 3 games per day on the WorldCup.

Im not really a fan on making out some betting out of pooled funds or something that had been together with someone because chances or odds that it would really cause up some problems is really high.

Come to think that not all the times you would really be agreeing to each other which means if the other one had make out some losses consecutively then pretty sure you would really be blaming him out.

On this situation, it did really just turn out that you are being lucky or profitable out of those bets but it doesnt mean that this method does really work or does have
significant chances of adding up your winning probability which is something an impossible thing.

Well, they say 2 heads are better than one, so its obvious that you guys can create more chances of winning since all of you will contribute good analysis on the game. Aside from that, you and your friends develop socialization since there will be a lot of interaction between you and your friends. And I think if ever you lose huge amount in your bets, that would not be so hurting and frustrating, because you know you only bet on the amount all of you can afford to lose.

-Does it minimize losses? ❎
- Reduces addiction? Maybe yes or maybe not.
-Way of hanging out? Yes, it is really good as long you do have that fun. ✅

As long  you do stick out with your plans and agreeing on each everyones decisions and dont really end up on some arguments
then it should be find but i do believe on others words about that this might or possibly built up some complications
if not done it right.

My only strategy is just self discipline and control when it comes to my finances since I only bet on my own and not with friends having to share for the bet. But I really like the one you are suggesting OP, if only I can also find some friends that can be reliable and not greedy when it comes to money. I just hope that everything will work well on your sharing of winnings, and that not one of you will think on taking advantage on the others just because of money.

I don't understand what your unconventional strategy is? Combining the perceived knowledge of three people into a decision? Maybe you are wiser than the average betting trio, but you might have just as easily fluked a few wins and overestimate your actual skills in a tiny subset of games. Overconfidence has been the downfall of many gamblers over time and your first few sentences about pooling money is kinda irrelevant to any strategy. In what way do you think you are minimizing losses? I see none. Sure it might be helpful for bonding - but this only really applies while you're winning and could have the opposite effect after a few losses. What accountability is there meant to be? Somebody has to place the bet or come up with the idea? At best it is "crowd sourcing" bets and there are already much bigger markets out there doing this.

^Thank you for sharing this.
But I am thinking the disadvantage of this is what you called strategy, first it should be a trusted friend that will have the responsibility of the fund. Second, it could make trouble when you have opposite predictions from him. Minimizing losses is not a guarantee here because everything in betting is unpredictable and no one knows what will happen. Reducing the chance of being addicted could be helpful here but the worst thing is when it comes to both of you becoming addicted. Bonding would be the right approach and budget amount that you gamble.

Listening to interviews of athletes prior to an event and psychoanalyzing their speech patterns is one unconventional strategy I've used in the past.

For MMA I've noticed there are some statements that correlate with winning or losing. For example.

"My opponent won't show me anything I haven't seen before."  (Can indicate they're not being tested in the gym and have holes in their game)

"He has no skill, he's only successful because he uses steroids."  (Hater talk, can indicate a losing mentality)

"I want to be the best fighter who ever lived."  (What most of them say when they can't think of anything original)

Sometimes you can tell when they're not motivated, not working hard and showing up for a paycheck. Which makes it easier to bet the other side with a good win rate.

Wow, this is good idea which I am tempted to try out, but then, I can't since I  am a lone guy, I don't have friends I hang out or move around with, but this is sure a good way to not only minimize of effect of loosing money on betting, it's also like you said, a good way to really bond with friends and have fun.

And the strategy is very good most especially if you have trusted friends and they trust you too, I wouldn't want to imagine a case where by you guys won a huge amount of money and the one in charge or with access to the account secretly runs away to go and cash out the winnings alone somewhere else, I've heard of such a case here on this forum...
So trust is indeed all that matters here, I wish you and your friends good luck in your world cup betting adventures, but remember to bet responsibly.

Overall, you just did great on your set of picks. Your analysis with your friends turned out good and it gives you a decent profit already.

There is really nothing special there as it's now common nowadays to have that coop-type of betting wherein you will find a partner/s and share betting capital with them for a much more chance to gain good profits.

However, what if your bets turned out that bad then no thread like this will be created, right?

Congratulations that your group was able to have a good run in your World Cup betting. :)

I don’t usually go for partnership or betting with shared capital from friends when it comes to gambling. It’s just that I don’t have trusted friends around when it comes to gambling. But I believe your own strategy will certainly work and has good advantages on it. You can share the risk of losing which will help you not to fall in gambling addiction, and it can also increase the capacity or the chances to win since your bets are well spread with a good amount of bets. My only doubt is whenever one of you will insist his own bet because he thinks that will create higher chances of winning, that would be another problem if ever.

It's indeed probably better to discuss bets with other people. Different people may have different analyses on a sports match. So, the more the better. Different factors will be explored easily. Information shared. Various aspects of a match will be carefully weighed. So, it's generally better this way.

What's probably the challenging part here are the disagreements. One may be strongly convinced, for example, that it is Tunisia that will win, but the majority think that it is France. So the money goes to France. And France lost. The one who earlier insisted that the money should have been wagered on Tunisia will regret and probably feel a little resentment and could even blame his/her friends. He/she could even doubt his/her friends way analyzing matches.

Believe me, this happens even among friends, especially if money is involved. The blame game could arise anytime. That's why I prefer to gamble solo.

Certainly, any "unconventional" strategy will come out as a winner in this FIFA World Cup.

We are witnessing the result of extremely improbable games taking place in this championship.... consecrated teams are tying and even losing to others that do not have any "favouritism" in football. It's pretty insane.

I'm happy to know that at least someone is making a profit from betting on this world cup, I myself am quite disappointed with some of the results.

But, could you give us more details about these unconventional bets, what are these adopted strategies? Or is this a friends secret?

I don't really see how this s unconventional or minimizes losses. If you mean it forces you to always contribute that "equal amount" for every session and not increase/decrease it arbitrarily then I guess you can call it so, but it doesn't actually decrease it (But it is a good idea for socialization nonetheless). The risks you take are technically the same imo whether you go solo or with a group, the ratio would still remain the same after all, though I guess the planning part increases since you guys are not thinking alone but rather collaborating instead to think of matches and their winners.
Nope, I deposit, sit in one sitting and ruin my entire bankroll. My gambling session in a nutshell.

I have also done group betting many times before. All for fun. When gambling is done with friends, not only is losing minimized because of sharing and comparing different analysis, it is also a lot more fun. Especially when you are already watching the game and you cheered together for a certain team because all of you have money at stake it would really be a lot more fun.

But how come this reduces the chance of being addicted? Sometimes when you gamble with friends, it is more addicting. If you gamble alone, you are only going against yourself during the times when you don't want to gamble. But when gambling with friends, your friends will often force you to accompany them and gamble and you comply even if you don't want to.

Well, I guess more good heads is much better right? We have done this several times before when I was still in college as we don't have enough money to bet on our own from the NBA games, especially during the playoffs. It's indeed true, that betting together with your friends is quite fine when you're watching the game live.
We usually put a bet in a series during the NBA playoffs. Win or lose we all share the same excitement and fun, and most it indeed avoid further losses and depressions during loss.

This strategy is not that bad but you guys just formed a gambling partnership. The beauty of your strategy is that risk or losses would be shared among and putting heads together to play games might be helpful.

But the disadvantage of this partnership is that wins would also be shared and I hope you guys have drafted a sharing formula because it could also lead to disagreement and conflict. Another challenge might be disagreement during staking. You or your friend might have different strategy or might forecast differently on a particular game. The question now would be; Whose game or prediction will be played?
For me gambling should be personal because it is unpredictable and risky. I prefer to take the praise or blame for my wins and losses.     

what I see from what you do with your friends is having fun making bets. this will not make you addicted as long as your goals and friends are not oriented toward absolute profit.
you make strong betting capital by combining with your friends. happy if you get your luck.
but I am not so comfortable doing the same as you. even though hanging out and watching movies together is very exciting. but betting on one platform with other people doesn't make me comfortable. in soccer betting, I don't have a specific strategy. just an ordinary game analysis. I just don't usually bet on the first game. I started betting on the second match and so on. this is just to see the strength of the playing team.

I was thinking the same thing, I mean it is fine that the OP has enough trust on his friends that they are willing to have a single account for all of them and they decide together on the bets they are going to make, however in theory this should be more addicting than gambling on your own, as people get addicted to things that makes them feel good about themselves, and without a doubt gambling with your friends is way more fun than betting on your own.

Not really, but I've done what you explain in the past with friends also.



Logically, just as it minimises losses, it also minimises potential gains.


For me this is the most important thing, the social aspect which, as you say, reduces the risk of addiction. Problem addictions tend to be solitary and hidden from others, by betting with your friends gambling becomes a social and entertaining experience, as it should be.

I used to have a weird strategy where i'd take the underdogs on MMA because of how the outcome can potentially go both ways but the odds are too one-sided. It worked for a few times and I stopped after stringing a few wins as I want to end it with a profit. I also remember betting on a league where their games only lasted for 5-10 mins and I had that one successful run after tailing someone from the chat I don't know why I suddenly followed his bets but at least it paid off though.

Maybe you are pertaining to the risk reduction because his statement is true in regards to minimize losses since they do a bankroll share which means the loss is distributed to the 3 of them and not on him alone. The amount of money he spend on bankroll when he is playing alone compared to this group is much smaller. The idea is to minimize the pain of losses because you have someone to share on it.



Right, I think this is always the issue on this kind of betting strategy. Sometimes the person who predicts an accurate result the most always blame the guy who predicts bad result. This always ends up on argument on how they will split the to profit especially if someone on the group contribute the most on there win.  Been there done that before with my friends and we always end up to an argument. :D

    The method you have shared here on this topic is nice, Although I am also playing crypto gambling here even though I am a newbie. Based on your story it also appears that you won with the strategy you are talking about here, right?

How long have you been doing this? every time you do this, do you take home a win from gambling here mate? I ask this because I want to try what you are saying so that I can also experience making money from gambling somehow.

But you know anyway, not all gamblers think like you about the strategy you are talking about here, maybe others don't understand what you want to point out.

Your strategy is pretty simple. I am not even sure if I would call it a "strategy" though. You are basically saying we wager less so we lose less.

You can perfect this strategy if you don't play at all and still do the rest of the stuff with your mates. (drinking, talking, hanging around) It wouldn't just minimize your losses, you wouldn't lose anything at all.  ;D Also since you don't play, you also can't get addicted.  ;D But then watching the games wouldn't be as fun I imagine.

My only safe strategy is to gamble with the money I can afford.
So why should I have an unusual bet and bet with friends?
Besides that, if I want to join my friend in placing the bet together, I will send the money to them and let them decide.
It may be the best way to bet for them so they can share information to choose the right team.
But still, I'd rather bet alone than share accounts with others because when it comes to money, everyone can be greedy.

What's the unconventional there? You just basically pooled money into a single account to make your capital larger. I think the only benefit that you have there is that you have a larger account and the profit that you'll get is bigger. Nothing unconventional because I think it's being done with other people as well. As long as you trust people who would bet for you or either add an idea on the current bets, then there's just nothing to it, really.

- Minimizes losses how? It's the same percentage on the same matches? The chances are the same and if you lose, you lose as well. Maybe the percentage is less but if you think about it, it's still the same even if you're just one.
- How does it reduce the chance of being addicted? Won't it be an additional addiction? This would be dependent on the type of friends that you have. Maybe they are the ones initiating the gambling and could lead to further addiction or something.
- I agree with the bonding. It's really fun to go out with friends, you know.
- Accountability is important for sure and making sure you are in line.

I don't have any unconventional strategy TBH because it's usually luck still. So I just based it myself on luck and not think about anything else. I'm just making sure that I'm okay losing money up to a certain point. Making sure that I won't have a revenge type of thing in gambling.

That's a good strategy but not really unconventional many people are already doing that, there are advantages and disadvantages but the most important thing is you agree to disagree and have an understanding of whatever outcome of your bets, you can only do this if you are really close to your friends if not there will be misunderstanding, and there's some sort of guide on how to settle if there are choices that need to resolve, its good that you have success doing this, the most important is to have fun doing this, its still gamble you all have to understand that you can still lose.

It's not easy to have a friends with the same passion, especially about gambling, hopefully, until the World Cup is over you can earn more than what has been made so far.
I don't have an unconventional betting strategy, it can even be said that I don't have any particular strategy other than betting on sports betting and playing casino games with one strategy, which is always using the minimum bet, the goal is only to be able to play longer because of a limited budget.

It seems that the things that Op said in this thread are very familiar to our members. I think it's fine, betting with the group many times. moreover, everyone has analysis and choices that will not always be the same. In fact, each person can have their own parlay slip bet.

Op mentioned there were three people involved, and if one won the parlay slip. in other words, a win for all of them. after all Op is only targeting three matches, the probability is high enough to win the bet. however, the fact is that scenarios don't always go according to plan. the point is, there are times when we win and vice versa.but what's fun is, watching the game together. there was a sensation that was driven by shouts and cheers from his friends.


Well, I feel I fail to understand to avoid addiction. I guess it depends on the individual, in this case it was the world cup anyway.  every day, there are only 4 matches. if the match is over, the betting is over and you return to betting the next day. I don't think there is a strong correlation in this context with things that lead to addiction.

Any strategy in gambling is good, as long as it wins and makes you happy and satisfied. Use it as long as it brings you pleasure.

I just don't understand how it minimizes losses. Do you think that if you lose, you will lose only 33% of your money from the deposit? But there is a downside to this - you will win less, that is, you will receive only a third of a successful bet.

rock paper scissors works with people who are not too attached to their opinions, so I wouldn't say it's the best solution all the times.

but you are right, approaching it as a friends game definitely helps and makes things lighter.

Agree with your post. I did not get it also, how they gonna minimize losses. You cant cheat math. 100$ bet with 1.5 odds or 3*100$ bet with odds in case of a loss will have similar result. I think what OP really meant was that they do brainstorming before placing a bet. Or via collective thinking find most "save" bets.

Cant imagine how it can reduce addiction also. Now they all three are bond with deposit. Now they have common thing to do together. Now when two wants to place bets, but third person is busy, he must stop his activity and join them. Seems they achieved opposite result.

This is pool betting, not really unconventional we also did that when I was in my teenage but we did not get the results that your group or friends enjoy, there's always conflict on what team to bet and there's blaming game along the way, I'm not doing it anymore I want to be responsible on my losses and winnings and there's money involve and when there is money involved between friends there's going to be conflict, so there should be a gentlemen's agreement and you know each other character so there will be no fight, hopefully, it will not happen to you and your friends what happened to us.

I just found out that there is a strategy like what the OP called unusual, usually everyone makes bets on their respective accounts without anyone partnering to fund bets even though a lot has been done but I just realized this story now, maybe it's not something strange for them who already know about this betting strategy.

My method is not in this way, sticking to my own choices without involving friends to bet with. I prefer what I can afford instead of funding a wallet with friends. It will be more difficult for me to share the profits.

The World Cup is enough to give me an advantage in my own way betting, so I prefer to do it myself but when we hang out together to watch the match.

Summarizing the ideas and decisions of three will be more efficient and effective compared to a single player. It also promotes positivity since they're considered a team.
However, you should not expect continuous winning using the same strategy because there is no constant result in gambling.
There were also stories of broken friendships because of gambling so you must also be ready to handle worse situations in the future because where there is money involved, there's also a conflict.

I've never done this before in any sports that I'm betting but it's good that you are doing great as long as you and your friends have a full understanding of how things will work then you and your friend found a good strategy that you can use not only in football but on many things where there is a need for cooperation and strategy, who knows you and your friends can make good business partners if you can get along, but if course this is gambling you and your friend should understand that you can lose everything.

Yes it's a betting pool.
The advantage is obviously as the OP says that many heads are better than one so
everyone can input various ideas and data to create a strategy.

I don't think it would reduce the chances of getting addicted though.

On the plus side I could imagine that discipline and budgeting would be stricter which
would be a good thing.

Yea sounds good but not unconventional

  - What you said is true, even if you are not a gambler, you can gamble with whatever you want and whatever you want. This is the influence of a friend when you are at a casino. But the fun is there, of course, you go there as a group.

Besides that, if your friends agree to make your bet and it suddenly hits, of course, you can suddenly win a lot. But when bad luck lands on your friends, your friendships will quickly disappear. This is the only thing that is not good, but the fun as friends is still there.

Maybe if you really are close friends and you've been in thick and thin and many troubles, I don't think that this type of partnership will ruin their friendship.
But who really knows, right? I get your point that it's a risky thing to do when there's money involve and it's more advisable to get away with stuff from your friends when money is already the subject of the talks.

And what exactly is your strategy? And why do you think it's unconventional?
I saw exactly zero information for you to name your topic as you called it. As I understand it, you are now in the black (although with so many unexpected results when the underdogs defeat the favorites, it looks suspicious), but I don’t think that your luck is endless.

Doesnt surprise me if someone do really make out those kind of thinking and beliefs that they do able to find out an effective way on dealing out with sports betting.Its true that not all the times where favorites do
always win which there are really times which underdogs could beat them up.I dont see any something complex or extraordinary method or ways for you to analyze such thing.
There's only two options which you could choose and which one is something that do really vary or matter on how you do think of it.
Things mentioned arent that having no sense yet it doesnt minimize losses but i do agree that it might really give out that kind of entertainment for others
but not for all of us.

Many people had a strategy to play with full of his holding money to double it. Some may use to play gambling by using 50 percent of holding money. But my strategy is using the money, which I had afford to loss. That money should not affect the regular way of my life even if I had loss that complete money. If you follow this strategy, you will only enjoy the gambling and get some fun from instead of losing the hope in the gambling. Full loss will gives you negative opinion on gambling.

You have a point there and that was also my first thought after reading OP's strat. This tends to work as long only for people who are very good friends and even in such case it can fail.
I bet that not all of them have access to the account. If they win a lot of money there will always be that guy willing to bet the teams money without asking for their opinion, or worse, steal from them.
If OP can work it out - great. If not, no more friends and possibly no more money :P

First, it is a good thing to have our friend in a gambling engagement, what more exciting is that the strategy is discussed among friends and comes up with the best possible result of the match, more heads are indeed better than one, especially since all heads are sports savvy.

As for me, I only gamble alone since I like slots game and rarely bet on sports so I don't have any unconventional betting strategy.

Nice strategy Op but I think your explanation is incomplete to some extent. How do you guys come about the selections you make I know that the world cup has not been favorable to bettors because the underdogs have won the big teams more than once since the competition began. After picking three games you want to bet on do you guys split the bet or you combine it because you can't have any amount of money as cash out when you place a single bet and you won't have a big amount as cash out if you placed bet on 3 games.
Am asking so that I can try your strategy.

When you say that it has an advantage; isn't the first important advantage supposed to be that you won alot from it so decided to share? Just like you'd want everyone else to share theirs? -- Mhan, that shoulda been a priority before these minor guidelines... afterall, there's no way to avoid losses as long as you keep betting... This would have been even more explicit though but I'm seeing it as something "incomplete" without a composed logical trick to maneuver...No way!! Well, I just hope it helps y'all out there but these are just ordinary rules that any gambler should save his ass, AFAIK.

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Pool betting among your friends is good if you have developed a deep and long relationship that all of you will not be hurt by wrong decisions and partitions of bets, I don't do this I prefer to bet on my own so I can bet what I want to bet and enjoy the game and results because I know that I decide it on my own especially for sports betting when there are teams or fighters with equal skills and strength but if you want to make money and all of you are supporters and bettors of one sports and good in analysis then this is a good strategy.
The most important is you will all accept the outcome.

Actually, it's not the strategy but the most beneficial part of associating a friend/s in gambling is the combined capital.

Obviously, the big the bankroll is the better profit in return. That's the advantage of having a "cooperation mode".

OP is just fortunate that their analysis yields them a good return. Hopefully, they will continue their wild winning streak.

How does it minimize your losses anyway? I agree to the other points but not on this one. You will equally be getting/doing the same number of bets if you're alone anyway, just not the amount of money you put in. Unless if your friend is some kind of a god or some sort in sports betting that is. It only helps you pool your money for better payout, spend more time in decision making and that's it, risk of losing remains the same.

For me having a team or group for prediction of game or matches can work out very good in a process where by the predictors are good in soccer game, and that is not a criteria to be shown that this people is going to make well or continuously winning all their predictions, because i believe that prediction of game is dependable on the luck and ability to study the two parties method of playing in their previous matches. Because such team can be failed because it's not hundred percent assured of wining every matches predicted.

In that kind of situation, it's an ideal thing because you can gather a lot of information not only with you that you can come up with an idea of what you should choose to bet on because you have different opinions and thoughts regarding the game you would like to bet and at the same time you stated that you love this game and by that it's easier to you to make a bet which team has the higher chance to lose having a lot of data regarding with the game have the higher chance to lessen the risk.

Maybe because they are sharing money with their friends to form a large capital to be used on their betting session, there's no need to pull up another extra cash to chase those possible losses. They are satisfied now with their combined bankroll and have no need to add more in case of loss.

But I think if their previous bets lose instead, they might have that feeling to chase those losses and they will soon use their extra own cash to make another round of bets. But since OP and his friends are lucky because of their shared strategies, they are now currently enjoying some profits.

that's their advantage, he has other friends that are contributing to the analysis of the games. as long as they agree that no matter what the outcome of their bet, no blaming or of that sort, they will enjoy this collaboration. sometimes it is not about the money, but the friendship that you will form to these people. because you will know if they will be at your side no matter what the situation is. but if because of money, you will have a misunderstanding, you know you are not in the right group.

I think the strategy they got there isn't totally what we call unconventional because if im not mistaken there are already a betting service like that where they combine bets from other people to form a really huge bet. It can also be done locally with our friends and family. Not all that those who do this are going to be a winner but in gambling, there will also be losers.

It's normal so don't disappoint yourself too much. What you should do instead is take this as a lesson and learn something from it. Like you said you witness that those who don't rely on favourites can sometimes win. I bet you now know what to do the next. Don't be afraid to experiment and try something new. Good luck!

Congrats to you guys for have successfully made a cash out of over $1000,  but i can't find any betting strategy mentioned above, because creating an account for gambling is not a betting strategy,  or neither contributing equal amount of money to fund the wallet a strategy.
I expected you going deep, but you were just superficial in your explanation, because i thought maybe you say one way that has helped you win much during this world cup was that you kept on playing either Over 1.5 or Under 3.5 on two or three games which you thought could be sure games while staking high on any combination of 1.5 sure odds

Unfortunately I don't have like-minded friends who are soccer enthusiast to share ideas or do analysis in predicting soccer scores, I personally do my analysis via different platforms before taking a final stance of picking my bet, how I wish I have people we could share views and idea together towards having a successful and consistency in winning bets, since the temporary pause in the European leagues I also took a break because World Cup matches are unpredictable to me with so many upsets that resulted to losses, once European leagues resume I will be back to soccer betting.

That's their concept because not everybody can come together and analysis match together and make it, another thing is that their will be  a problem within in the time of sharing or dividing the money they profit from predicting such games, because one oe two person's will fee that they are superior in contribution than another for the prediction. I did not say that having a team is not something that is not good but the only thing is understanding during the time of sharing the money

What I have put in bold is a confirmation bias. You have cashed out $1k in the same way you could have cashed out betting alone.


No, it does not minimize them, especially if we talk in percentage terms. If the RTP is 95%, whether you bet with your friends or alone, whether you bet $1k or $1M, the return is 95%. If you mean in absolute terms, how much cash you lose, of course, you lose less in relation to the bet you and your friends have made, but because if you win you will win less too.

You cannot argue with success, you are all happy about this because so far it works but what if you lose money because of a conflict of what to bet, time will come when there will be something like this, I will call it a good strategy if you've been using it for several months and on many sports betting, so my advice is to enjoy it for now if the strategy is good then time will tell that it really is


The good part is bounding I could not think of betting with my friends, luck plays a factor when there is money involved between friends there's going to be a rift, it's always bad business when you're doing partnership with friends with characters different from yours, so just enjoy it while it lasts, and stay as friends whatever happens.

Nah, maybe you don't have any problem until now since you guys still making profit, but when you guys suffer losses and the one person can't accept it, there's will be a problem and it might ruined your friendship.

I already have experience when working with a group where there's few person doesn't have the same goal and can't accept the risk, it really need to replace those people with people with a same goal. The thing is, it's really hard to find such people.

But you have to remember if you want to experiment, use less money because if our experiment fails, we will suffer defeat. The current World Cup might be more interesting because some teams that are not favored can win from seeded teams, so we have to be careful in analyzing. If the result is a win, we will be happy, but if not, we shouldn't be too disappointed because we still have a chance to win in the next round. We have to keep trying to analyze the teams that will compete so we can win and even though it's not easy, at least we've tried to analyze it.

It is obvious that what they are doing with a friend is not a strategy, much less a profitable strategy. Just now, while they are in the black, positive emotions and a desire to show off lead to the creation of such topics, but in fact this strategy is not unconventional and will lead to natural results if they continue to bet.

Your friend and you have a wise plan of action (you guys win together and lose together). At least you can both thoroughly evaluate a game before placing a bet on it. I've attempted this type of tactic before (betting with a friend), but we eventually stopped because he tried to introduce greed into the game we won together. He keeps insisting that he analyzes games more thoroughly than I do because of the assumptions, that lead to the end of our joint betting.

While betting with a friend might be enjoyable and reduce losses, I would advise against it if you want to avoid future arguments. The going may initially seem easy, but over time when enormous money keeps rolling in, things start to rocket in a soar manner that you can't explain

Nice overview as it is possible to happen though depends on how both party acts and on your end changes take place. Maybe it may also take place, but if both are good at controlling their emotions.

They can avoid arguing who's going to lead their betting journey, as long as good communication and
both are wiling to adjust, win together or lose together with the same attitude towards, this journey may
last long.

here's a good example of planning to avoid ruin
if one just give in to their emotions then they'll probably end up losing a lot when the luck tide turns the other way.

better to at least put some thought in the future and consider what will be the outcomes of our present decisions.

Your strategy isn't a bad one and the hanging out area gave me so much insight and pictures of how that kind of gethering would look like because I have this group of friends of about two and we all love to hangout most days after work and especially weekends for much more longer time of discussion and one thing is the fact that we are ladies who love football and are also football enthusiast which is very uncommon in my local neighborhood and when people see us around they just conclude we are talking nothing but football though we don't gamble or so but I could also remember a day the argument was so heated that we had to bet $50 each and I won but we all soent it together on pizza and some ice cream.

I basically don't let people know I gamble, because it doesn't speak nice of a day in my country, so I just stay low key and do my bettings online and don't even get my friends involved.

True but does it have to be in gambling? To me this is risky.


This kind of business venture might later turn out bad IMO. Usually when you start such it can be sweet because of the gains that come off it but what about when you start making loses because in gambling loses will come too. So have you considered the legal side to this your newly found business venture. You have to understand in partnership you have to write down your agreements that you follow. It may be for the purpose of the world cup that will end soon that you have come together in such a way with your friend but incase don't always have things concerning money and business not put down in pen and paper because there is always a reason why that is needed, just so you can have proves and evidence.


Truth is that all these are not advantage to that. You can do all those or restrict yourself off them as a single bettor.

Sorry I do not see your "strategy" working out. If you are hoping to crowd-source the most popular betting choices, you are going to need to be aware that you need much more data input than only from a few friends. And it is completely redundant as well, seeing as you can put together the same data from third party data sources by yourself.

And putting all the money into one wallet? Who is going to maintain the wallet? Why do we need to trust someone else to hold our funds? Sounds sketchy.

The advantages are non existant, as it would seem to me. You have failed to even explain how those advantages would come about.

I did not understand what was the strategy you usedto stay on the profits. You basically told us how you and your friends organize to bet in a joint effort but you did not explained what sort of strategy were you using. Do you look for valuable odds or do you bet on ongoing games with the most possible outcome? So, when you are placing the bets what matters the most for you guys_

Well, for me I love sportsbetting but i still prefer to gamble alone, maybe because I’m not comfortable and even used to gamble with the money I don’t solely own. But good thing for you, you have some friends to share your common interest and bet in gambling. That makes winning chances high because of shared analysis, but I’m also having fears once the loss consistently happened, I doubt if you will still decide to gamble as a group.

This strategy will certainly work if the rest of your friends are into common beliefs and interest, and no one will contradict one’s bet and analysis, as everyone works as a team. That would be more fun gambling with your friends, the bond is more than enough than money and profits. But it’s not what I experienced in gambling, I gamble alone following my own bet and analysis, and I only meet some new friends there gambling for fun and profits too.

I find it quite strange that this thread is receiving much more positive replies compared to that one thread which discussed a gambler having a joint account with his friend but later on parting ways with him after winning a huge amount and soloed all the winnings.

But, yeah, this way has a lot of pros especially if both parties are in agreement with all the bets that will be made on the account. I, myself, do this method with one of my friends to be able to play more games and have much better data and knowledge on a game that we both know. Also, we are able to bet on games that only one of us knows, this way, we will be able to spread more bets on different games.

Still, it should only be done with someone you know and trust as you might end up getting greedy and run away with all the funds by yourself. Right now, we are discussing with more of our group to have a much larger bankroll to bet on another account.

It doesn't say that it is forbidden to be applied in gambling though.  Besides, everything has its risk.



There is a possibility but as long as the individual knows what they are doing and the risk involved, they can accept whatever the result of their strategy. I am sure they know each other and all have access to the account.  The deposit and withdrawal of the fund are probably in real time where they are present and the distribution of profit is right after the bet.  Unless someone is nefarious enough to backstab their friends, I think this venture will be fine.  Besides legal binding doesn't ensure that someone will not betray their friend.

However, fortunately in this case Op's target was a gamble on the Qatar world cup. however, if it continues to the league competitions. it can be possible what happened to your experience, it can also happen to Op and his friends later. it's just that in this case, and even then if you always get lucky. but the fact is, despite betting only three games, as Op explained. does not guarantee that it will always win, even though it involves a lot of heads trying to analyze it.

Football is not just talking based on paper and statistics. but often, what happens on the field when the game is running is different from what we have analyzed before. and this is proven, in the world cup this time there were many surprises.  nevertheless, I agree with what you say. things like this can cause disputes in the future. however, I don't wish that to happen to the Op, and must nevertheless wish them good luck and cheers while this world cup event is still going on.

The cashout money won't be the same because the risk-money or the amount put on the bet is different if OP instead bets alone compare to when he shared his bankroll with his friend. Generally, because of their joined money, they are able to bet more passing the limit of their own supposed affordable amount. Although yes, OP has a chance to win alone.

We also have to point out that OP and his friend shared analysis with each other forming a final decision on what or where should they bet that's why we aren't sure if OP will have the same winning result if he decides on his own.

Well then, what matters here is, they have won already at this point. Of course, others should not think that they will have the same good result by doing such a way of cooperating with friends every time. It's no different from betting alone and we are talking about gambling here.

True if OP has the capacity and brave enough to risk that huge amount of money.  Remember the win is from the shared amount of money and the bet might be lower if it was done alone.

There are lots of aspects to consider here like @harizen stated.


It does minimize the losses because the bankroll is being filled up by more than 1 person.  Imagine if there is $1000 bankroll filled alone by 1 person, and lost the amount.  The impact to his financial status is negative $1000  while when that $1000 is the total fund shared by 4 individual and lost, the only impact to the person is only $250 not $1000.  Advantages always had its disadvantage.  With lower losses comes lower profit since the winnings is also shared by all individual.