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Title: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Outhue on December 09, 2022, 08:51:18 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: PX-Z on December 09, 2022, 09:04:17 AM
Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
It's just a word of mouth marketing and others just riding the hype, nothing really is decentralized when it comes to website operation. Not unless the website hosting server is fully decentralized too.

Web3 asking KYC? Yeah, how ironic, right? But of course for the sake of hype, let's just let them and give chance on how they can change the traditional online casino. But i still withhold of sites asking KYC first on the registration especially for a new site. Not unless you win huge $xx,xxx amount and that is the time they will ask for verification, fair enough.

**Move this to gambling discussion, to avoid getting trashed and complain later on.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: piebeyb on December 09, 2022, 09:05:14 AM
I also actually wanted to voice this since last week because I saw a lot of casinos implementing web3 in their casinos and but some of them still ask for an identity on their site

after looking deeper it looks like they added it as an easy step so that people can play casino using web3 without having to create an account using email, just connecting with a wallet but that doesn't mean that as a casino they are decentralized, because that's just to make it easy for users to play, my advice you should look for a decentralized and free casino without KYC also supports web3, that's all


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: BitDane on December 09, 2022, 09:16:38 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

Don't be confused between Web3 and Web 3.0  they are fundamentally different[1].  As stated by that article, "web3 is blockchain based whereas web 3.0 is semantic web which means it is a common framework that allows user to reuse and share data across different enterprises, applications, and communities."

In addition, blockchain based doesn't necessary need to be decentralized.  There are centralized blockchain so it wouldn't be a surprised if some Gambling Casino platform that claim to be web3 integrated asks for KYC.






[1] https://productcoalition.com/web3-versus-web-3-0-the-basic-concepts-and-differences-e25f7f05ca33


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: dimonstration on December 09, 2022, 09:26:06 AM
They are indeed using the technology of Web3 but with a touch of centralization due to the AML policy for there license. You can only experience a full Web3 experience on casino that doesn’t have a license which is ironic that people preferred casino with license yet they want full privacy with there game. Web3 casino allows user to connect there web3 wallet on the website without the need on registering an account through email. They have also some house games that runs through the blockchain which they are using to categorized them as web3 already.

There’s expect a fully decentralized casino that has license to operate at the same time because AML policy is always attached on the license. This important details should be always remember.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Daltonik on December 09, 2022, 09:29:11 AM
Well, why not use such popular trends as web3.0 to promote the project, because this only implies the creation of a web content based on blockchain technology, but the tokens used can also imply user identification. And if web3.0 uses an online casino and it is licensed, then they are obliged to comply with the requirements of regulators and then all decentralization ends.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 09, 2022, 10:01:18 AM
Casino owners still have the right to ask for KYC because regulators also supervise them, so they also need to supervise their users. We may think that web 3.0 doesn't require KYC but we also can't do anything about it if the casinos keep asking us to do KYC.

And if you don't want to do KYC, you can look for other casinos that don't implement KYC. Maybe it's a misunderstanding of people in interpreting web 3.0 or is it to attract more users and say that their casino is a decentralized casino or is it just a new trend in the gambling business.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ultrloa on December 09, 2022, 10:13:01 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

Its not actually misunderstand since there are casinos that can adopt to the new changes or trends on the industry but there are other casino who take advantage on the trend and claim about that just for marketing purposes. Maybe its better for people to research first the pros and cons before they get hype for the word because this word is use for scamming because many newbie think that there are great things coming on Web 3.0.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: danherbias07 on December 09, 2022, 11:32:01 AM
Attract people, marketing strategy, or whatever they call it, they will need it to increase the number of gamblers playing in their application even if it means lying initially. Then, just throw them the TOS or Money Laundering Act when they start asking questions.
With the large competition in gambling sites, that is the hardest part of all, to have loyal players that will not just jump from one site to another.
It's not far from those who are using click baits to receive more traffic.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Yogee on December 09, 2022, 12:09:25 PM
It looks like the marketing that web 3 as the future of decentralization or decentralized web has been effective since we see a lot of users confused. I say it's kind of both hehe. They sell you the good part that you can gamble directly from your own wallet and tell you about the KYC for withdrawal later.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: swogerino on December 09, 2022, 12:19:54 PM
Web 3 is all over us in the tech discussion everywhere so most likely the companies or casinos in this case that advertise it as a true decentralization system should definitely not ask for KYC,so I believe more to be a marketing term to attract new users.That is more emphasized now in newly created casinos as there are a lot of reputable casinos with huge user base so for this new ones they need to create something to attract people and what better word than Web 3.0 casino and things alike.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: seoincorporation on December 09, 2022, 01:08:38 PM
Web 3.0 has become bait in the past months and that's because people don't fully understand the concept, as OP mentioned, it's supposed to be for decentralized projects, but when people run a project with their own token while holding more than 20% of the total tokens, that's fully centralized. And that just brings more confusion about the Web 3.0 projects.

So, we can call it high-quality bait to attract new users.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Solosanz on December 09, 2022, 01:11:37 PM
Actually casino with web 3.0 integration is centralized, it's true you don't need to create account to gamble on their site, but they have terms of service where they said they will record your IP address and will ask your KYC when you did suspicious. Actually the real decentralized system wouldn't ever ask you to provide KYC regardless the reason is, if the casino think there's a cheater, they must confiscated their funds and terminated their accounts.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: dothebeats on December 09, 2022, 01:56:40 PM
Web3 offerings from casinos is just another buzzword that they use to potentially invite in a lot of new players in their site. There isn't really any platform nowadays that aren't requiring new signups to not submit KYC because it will always be a requirement by the government. If they do not comply to this said requirement, they will have no other option but to shutdown or be prosecuted.

Perhaps if the casino operators know how to hide from the law enforcement then web3 casino may be a possibility. But if not, well, you know what happens.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: coinerer on December 09, 2022, 02:28:24 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC
If a platform behaves like this and if they promote themselves as web three by being a centralized casino platform then this is a marketing ploy of theirs.  And this is completely illegal marketing technique which is considered as spam.  So if a platform behaves like this it would be wise to stay away from that platform and research a casino site thoroughly before gambling.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on December 09, 2022, 02:31:02 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

Let's make something complicated first so we can understand it simply with a google search. It is very simple to say that the
"Web3 is decentralized and Web3.0 is semantic or linked".
source: https://www.nexxworks.com/blog/web3-and-web-3-0-are-not-the-same-thing-heres-why

And from what I see in the future, it will bring something good, I'm sure because of the updates and innovations that they are currently doing.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Coinbox1 on December 09, 2022, 02:33:50 PM
Web3 offerings from casinos is just another buzzword that they use to potentially invite in a lot of new players in their site. There isn't really any platform nowadays that aren't requiring new signups to not submit KYC because it will always be a requirement by the government. If they do not comply to this said requirement, they will have no other option but to shutdown or be prosecuted.

Perhaps if the casino operators know how to hide from the law enforcement then web3 casino may be a possibility. But if not, well, you know what happens.

Hello there!

TrustDice team here. We'd love to say non-KYC-upon-registration casinos do exist, and we are proud to be one! (https://trustdice.win/) Our crypto philosophy is deeply rooted in blockchain, so we absolutely understand crypto users' concerns over privacy since we, too, are crypto users.

In the meanwhile, we do agree that "web 3 casino" is merely a buzzword that misleads abuser about the true technological foundations of the casino, which is sadly always a centralized operation (due to the present limitations of blockchain technologies at large). That's why we don't use such terms in any of our branding and marketing endeavors.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Dunamisx on December 09, 2022, 03:13:08 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

I've also come across some crypto industries like exchanges that place demands on they are not, you cannot expect an exchange to claim being decentralized to you when they have someone who is the founder known by the world, what I will always advise is to first test them and if they are not what you think then you back off their relationship and choose another casino or gambling company.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

You know what? anything that has the introduction of token into it's system is a clear explanation to be centralized, also the whole web.3 of a thing has not been a public success to the extent that you believe everything any gambling company say about their reputation with regards to web.3 personally engage your own research.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: nakamura12 on December 09, 2022, 03:23:14 PM
It's just a scheme to attract people to gamble on their casino even if what they use is decentralized but it won't be a complete decentralized casino since they will ask for KYC when you withdraw. It is because the casino have license which will only make the decentralized part as a centralized of some sort due to KYC requirements. Just read what dothebeats explained and that will make sense as to why.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 09, 2022, 03:25:27 PM
Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
Well, in business, any thing to bring in or win more customers over to the company is always a go and it's welcomed.
I am not surprised though, things like this are not new, casinos can claim to be what they aren't just for the sole purpose of attracting customers, and I do not blame them, this is an industry where everyone is trying to stay anonymous but still want to get involved in businesses that does not require customers to be anonymous due to some reasons best known to them.
And to keep the business going, they have to make the customer feel that they(the business) is actually what they(the customers) want, so if it takes the casino claiming to be a web 3.0 casinos where as they aren't, it is still a business strategy.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: electronicash on December 09, 2022, 03:35:57 PM
its all marketing. companies do and say every thing for marketing.

maybe OP should also mention this web3 projects so we're not misunderstanding it as well. if dexes are going to ask KYC, that would lose hope for many of us. but i'm not sure if dexes are part of the web3 as well. there are meta projects that isn't asking kyc though.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: aioc on December 09, 2022, 03:44:01 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

Some, you mean not only one, can you give the name of these casinos that claims to be a web3.0 and yet ask for KYC I am not a fan OF Web3.0 I just don't like to connect my wallet to these so-called web3.0 and if they ask for KYC then they are not 100% live up to their name as a web3.0 casino.



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Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
I think it's both, they are the one who defines 3.0 and yet they ask for KYC, they cannot be on the same side of the coin, they are just deceiving their members, web3.0 sounds great because of the decentralization that is good to the ear.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on December 09, 2022, 04:00:50 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

Web 3 is the next generation decentralized internet. Although I would be very careful around anyone using the term to promote their own business. Most of the time they are just trying to sleezily advertise their platform but their platform is something which has to do with the current web 3 hype. But the reality of the situation is that most of these projects have absolutely nothing or only something minimal to do with web 3. It is always best to do your own research and have a bit of a technical background so that you know when somebody is trying to dupe you with hype-words.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hispo on December 09, 2022, 06:42:53 PM

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

The concept of web 3.0 is authentic, it focuses in the management of private and public cryptographic keys to identify clients and their assets, also to improve decentralization. There are genuine  web 3 casinos and services which work thanks to smart contracts.

However, Web 3.0 has become such a popular buzzword this last year that projects that do not even use smart contracts have use it in order to appeal new clients.
It is just about marketing, deceitful one. There many example of this kind of advertisement, not only in the crypto space, but also in traditional markets.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: bitcampaign on December 09, 2022, 06:49:43 PM
web3 is being talked about everywhere that's why casinos use it to seek other popularity, apart from that web3 has the advantage of not being centralized and decentralized but if there are casinos that don't apply the web3 concept it seems like they don't deserve to use that name in their casinos


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: coin-investor on December 09, 2022, 10:34:45 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

When Cryptocurrency started it was all decentralization until some industry came in and introduce centralization within decentralization so we have a centralized exchange when it should be peer-to-peer because of liquidity and avoid scamming and of course to make themselves legal in the eyes of the authorities or governments.

So now in the casino industry, we have a casino version of Web 3.0, adding features of decentralization, and yet they regulate to make them compliant with regulators because they do not want to be targeted for violations and they do not want to be a hub for money launderers.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Saisher on December 09, 2022, 11:25:43 PM
There is no way the casino industry can shift to full and total decentralization because the authorities are fully aware of money laundering and scammers are using casinos to wash their dirty money, if a casino turns to full no KYC expect it to have a takedown notice coming from authorities, scammers and money launderers are always on the look for places to wash their money and Web 3.0 is a good place to do that.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: serjent05 on December 09, 2022, 11:46:52 PM
There is no way the casino industry can shift to full and total decentralization because the authorities are fully aware of money laundering and scammers are using casinos to wash their dirty money, if a casino turns to full no KYC expect it to have a takedown notice coming from authorities, scammers and money launderers are always on the look for places to wash their money and Web 3.0 is a good place to do that.

There are still gambling sites that are decentralized and do not need KYC. One example is https://dexsport.io/.  I believe crypto developers are still planning to build a casino that is decentralized and does not need to provide KYC in order to play in it with peace of mind.  I think there are lots of online platforms built in dapps that will ensure us a decentralized gambling experience.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Darker45 on December 10, 2022, 01:24:21 AM
This web 3.0 label has been carried by certain companies despite their platforms not really representing web 3.0, or whatever that exactly means. They're just using it because that's the current trend. This is so like those platforms using the keyword decentralized just to attract users. In reality, they're anything but decentralized. Or perhaps they're branding themselves as a web 3.0 gambling platform simply because they're using blockchain, which might actually fall short of what really web 3.0 means, although it doesn't really have a strict definition.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Wexnident on December 10, 2022, 02:04:18 AM
I've never seen any proper development of Web3 so far, much less of a Web3 online casino which I don't think is even a concept or idea, it's just a casino that's accessible in these so-called "Web3" ideas. It's noise marketing I guess, I reckon they still think the word "Web3" is still something of particular note or is still hype (which is not afaik already), hence why they include it. I'd actually bother thinking about whether Web3 even exists in the first place in these kinds of projects.

Additionally, I reckon most casinos that invite users like this just include part of said "Web3" features, like blockchain tech or NFT, ones that can easily still have KYC in them.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Chikito on December 10, 2022, 02:12:12 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

That can't be implemented to bitcoin, so if they create the site with web 3.0 that can't be listed on this board (gambling). So they have to focus. In this case, if the developer try to build the gambling site with web 3.0 technology they have to plan in what they want to sell, Gambling or token. if they sell gambling certainly don't need KYC, because they sell decentralized technology where in fact in not really decentralized when they sell token also.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Johnyz on December 10, 2022, 03:10:55 AM
Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
They are just riding with the hype without fully understanding what's the inside of a Web 3.0, and asking for a KYC is indeed not the purpose of web 3 update.
Many are still not familiar with the Web 3 though, and that' what they thought about it. We should not believe on any marketing easily because we might getting into the wrong site and that can compromise your security. If the site is claiming to that they already adopted web 3 and yet they are asking for a KYC, better to address this concern and inform many people about this as much as possible.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Outhue on December 10, 2022, 06:43:55 AM
Casino owners still have the right to ask for KYC because regulators also supervise them, so they also need to supervise their users. We may think that web 3.0 doesn't require KYC but we also can't do anything about it if the casinos keep asking us to do KYC.

And if you don't want to do KYC, you can look for other casinos that don't implement KYC. Maybe it's a misunderstanding of people in interpreting web 3.0 or is it to attract more users and say that their casino is a decentralized casino or is it just a new trend in the gambling business.
I think this move attract more users is all, this can be a turn off for someone who fully understand what web3 is all about and how it should be operated.

KYC is a must if the platform is running on any centralized tool but if they can claim web3 then they should erase any verification idea, also if any online casino is running decentralised platform regulators should understand that users are at their own risk of losing money, regulators shouldn't have any business with decentralised projects and platforms.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: piebeyb on December 10, 2022, 07:39:11 AM
This web 3.0 label has been carried by certain companies despite their platforms not really representing web 3.0, or whatever that exactly means. They're just using it because that's the current trend. This is so like those platforms using the keyword decentralized just to attract users. In reality, they're anything but decentralized. Or perhaps they're branding themselves as a web 3.0 gambling platform simply because they're using blockchain, which might actually fall short of what really web 3.0 means, although it doesn't really have a strict definition.
as long as it's a good trend to use the word web3 no matter what people say about casino projects or other it's just to look cool nothing more even to attract new users it's ok to use anyway I don't find many decent decentralized casinos using web3 this is because usually only a handful of people play there as opposed to playing in a centralized, overly regulated casino


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: tabas on December 10, 2022, 07:59:17 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.
What casinos are there? If they're web3 online casinos, it doesn't mean that they are wholly decentralized and they will still ask KYC if they want to or if the situation permits.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
Web 3 is the tech and casinos are one of the industries where it can apply. But the casino industry isn't wholly decentralized, thus, casinos that are offering or saying that they're web3 could be decentralized for real or not as they're behind the context of being decentralized and web3 application.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Kakmakr on December 10, 2022, 09:06:16 AM
Web3 holds the promise of allowing people to own things digitally, easily transact online, and have more control of their personal data. Blockchain and crypto ecosystems already have working products for Web3. For example, users can make peer-to-peer (P2P) payments and collect digital items with crypto wallets. Source : https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/what-s-the-relationship-between-blockchain-and-web3

I think the casino industry are trying to define their own version of Web3 to make a distinction between the KYC and non-KYC casinos as a type of branding and marketing gimmick.  ::)   :-\


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Findingnemo on December 10, 2022, 09:07:46 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
I don't know is there any reputed casino claimed that they successfully integrated web 3.0 and still ask for KYC but when it comes to startup they just use the term for better exposure but at the end they are nothing but the existing model casino which has to implement KYC for AML policies by the regulators. So its not a misunderstanding but trying to lure the users with new technology terms.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Pmalek on December 10, 2022, 09:37:53 AM
If you want to attract more customers to your business, but you don't know how to, then use powerful statements with popular buzz words that will make it look like you know what you are talking about. Call your casino decentralized, even if it isn't. Tell your players it's non-custodial even if they are required to deposit their funds in addresses owned only by the casinos. Web 3.0 is just another buzz word used for marketing purposes to make yourself look better than the competition that doesn't make such claims.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: robelneo on December 10, 2022, 09:40:22 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

Of all the industries within Cryptocurrency, the casino industry is hard to transform into a decentralized ecosystem, the casino industry integrated Cryptocurrency so nothing can be changed in its structure, the framework and the regulations are already there, so if there's a new concept in Cryptocurrency casino the regulators are already there to check its complaint so it's impossible to have a decentralized set up in an industry that is highly regulated.
These so-called web3.0 casinos should explain if they are under the jurisdiction of the regulators to function as a decentralized project.
 


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: bitbollo on December 10, 2022, 12:15:13 PM
We know very well that it's simply a way like any other to attract an audience to their activities.

many of these sites know very well that with the current laws they cannot operate by proposing a site without KYC and licenses, therefore they choose these marketing expedients. Maybe they have some * on their promo?!?

considering that bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies provide a level of "pseudo" anonymity such an activity is always borderline ;)


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Eureka_07 on December 10, 2022, 01:18:11 PM
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I think the term Web3 has just become a marketing term nowadays to attract people (because of the hype).
Some casinos claim to be decentralized and would not ask for any KYC. This will only be possible if they are not under any regulatory entities, but we know already that most of them still need to get their license, and that would mean that they will be regulated, and possibly ask for KYC from their customers.

Please move this thread to the Gambling Discussion board (you can see the text-button on the lower left of this thread).


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Ojima-ojo on December 10, 2022, 01:59:01 PM
I think we should make one point clear here which is KYC and what it stands for casinos most especially cryptocurrency casinos and this has to do with regulation and if a casino wants to get licensed they have to comply with an Anti-money laundering policy which mandates casinos to collect their customer's information and documents for verification and it doesn't matter if the casino is a web 3 or not as long as their license.

So there is no need to get it twisted web3 or web 3.0 are all Basic terms but represent different aspects of the blockchain, and one example of web3 casino in the forum is owl casino, but I don't know if they require KYC to play on them since I have not played there before to know their demand or if their none KYC but I doubt that.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 10, 2022, 02:13:27 PM
We know very well that it's simply a way like any other to attract an audience to their activities.

many of these sites know very well that with the current laws they cannot operate by proposing a site without KYC and licenses, therefore they choose these marketing expedients. Maybe they have some * on their promo?!?

considering that bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies provide a level of "pseudo" anonymity such an activity is always borderline ;)
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I think the term Web3 has just become a marketing term nowadays to attract people (because of the hype).
Some casinos claim to be decentralized and would not ask for any KYC. This will only be possible if they are not under any regulatory entities, but we know already that most of them still need to get their license, and that would mean that they will be regulated, and possibly ask for KYC from their customers.
You both are correct, there are some casinos I know that claimed to be web 3.0 based, and as such decentralized in nature, example is owl.games, though I personally love this casino.but for the sake of sincerity, I would say that their web 3.0 based claim is nothing but a marketing strategy, yes they do show some characteristics of a web 3.0 platform since users don't have to sign up but just connect their wallet, but the failed in the area of hosting games, the casino itself is a centralized casino.
So we can call it a centralized casino with a web 3.0 kind of login system, same type of login system etherdelta and forkdelta used in their days and claimed they are decentralized exchanges.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on December 10, 2022, 03:26:32 PM
Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
Decentralized blockchain, most likely useless local token. With that they are going to accept all existing token or coins including bitcoin is the definition I get when someone tells me about a Web 3 gambling platform. In reality it's none other than a shitcoin project but the difference is they are at least using their own token to use as a currency for their own platform.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: maydna on December 10, 2022, 04:00:59 PM
In the future, all casinos may ask for KYC for all their members because the regulatory body oversees them so that there is no misuse of money in the casino. And forget about web3 or web4 or whatever because it's a business. The regulatory entities have to know everything about the business. Here, regulatory entities can force business owners to follow their rules.

I heard the term web3 this year, and it looks like it wants to be made into a new trend to replace the old trend. But I don't know. I just follow what's happening in crypto without worrying about it.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: abel1337 on December 10, 2022, 04:16:10 PM
Most of the project released today are claiming to be web 3 to be relevant to the current trend, No wonder that there will be casino that will integrate "web 3.0" into their branding. I believe that one characteristic of web 3.0 is being decentralized and those casino who claimed to be web 3.0 aren't fully decentralized if they collects KYC. Having a own casino token that can be used on the casino platform and having a integrated custodial/decentralized wallets isn't that much of a reason to claim a casino to be web 3. In my opinion it should be a fully decentralized casino, in short no KYC. So yeah until now I believe that web 3.0 word for casino are just for marketing.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: jostorres on December 10, 2022, 05:51:33 PM
Web 3.0 has become bait in the past months and that's because people don't fully understand the concept, as OP mentioned, it's supposed to be for decentralized projects, but when people run a project with their own token while holding more than 20% of the total tokens, that's fully centralized. And that just brings more confusion about the Web 3.0 projects.

So, we can call it high-quality bait to attract new users.
I think most of those who got baited, didn't even care if web 3 is fully decentralized or not but they only got curious about that number 3.0 next to the word web. In their mind, they think this looks new and cool so they will check it out. I just noticed that every web 3.0 casinos do always have its own tokens. Why is that? Isn't it possible to just run a casino alone in the web 3.0 space without the token part?

But, I think not all of these casinos hold most of their tokens. They only want to be fair and they know that there are people who don't like it. Anyway, I am one of those who think web 3.0 is fully decentralized but I see that it wasn't so I am a little bit disappointed.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Cling18 on December 10, 2022, 05:54:08 PM
Some casinos will do everything just to attract players despite their deceiving advertisements. I've come across a casino claiming to be web 3.0 but to my surprise after wagering and upon withdrawal, they asked me to submit the KYC requirements which made me lose interest in that casino. I guess that's just their marketing strategy since they all know that most players prefer casinos that won't ask for KYC.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: virasog on December 10, 2022, 06:46:31 PM
Some casinos will do everything just to attract players despite their deceiving advertisements. I've come across a casino claiming to be web 3.0 but to my surprise after wagering and upon withdrawal, they asked me to submit the KYC requirements which made me lose interest in that casino. I guess that's just their marketing strategy since they all know that most players prefer casinos that won't ask for KYC.

First of all, if a casino is web 3, does it means that it will not ask for KYC  ???
Anyways i do agree that some casino just uses the hype of the latest technologies and try to gain customers which is very wrong in my opinion. Advertising is the right of casinos but false advertising is something that should be avoided. If any casino is found doing false advertisements, they may gain some gamblers for the time being but later the truth will be revealed, and gamblers will never trust that site.

A casino should focus on the true facts and not make false ads only to gain new users. If gambling sites do like that, people will talk bad about those sites and soon no one will play there.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: danadc on December 10, 2022, 06:56:47 PM
There is no way the casino industry can shift to full and total decentralization because the authorities are fully aware of money laundering and scammers are using casinos to wash their dirty money, if a casino turns to full no KYC expect it to have a takedown notice coming from authorities, scammers and money launderers are always on the look for places to wash their money and Web 3.0 is a good place to do that.

There are still gambling sites that are decentralized and do not need KYC. One example is https://dexsport.io/.  I believe crypto developers are still planning to build a casino that is decentralized and does not need to provide KYC in order to play in it with peace of mind.  I think there are lots of online platforms built in dapps that will ensure us a decentralized gambling experience.

We all would like a completely decentralized casino but with the personalized attention that centralized casinos have, they believe that this is possible, but where would the funds come from, how could they maintain the advantage of the casinos and not come a very millionaire player and With a single play I was able to leave the entire casino, an unsettled entity? Because it can happen, when things are decentralized, players can always find a way to access the best vulnerabilities, and if this happens and if their customers are scammed, then who will they complain to if it is a fully decentralized casino? ?



Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Ojima-ojo on December 10, 2022, 07:04:17 PM
Many at times players are mid led by some casinos who failed to include the right information about their service and what it entails, some will not mentioned about kyx on their terms of service but when player register and start playing KYC will be enforced.

And there is a difference between web3 and web 3.0 the former is a network while the latter is just an operation on the network, most web3 casinos are also regulatory compliance and will demand KYC.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: o48o on December 10, 2022, 07:25:44 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.
The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?
Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
Web 3 doesn't mean it's purely about decentralization, it's a buzz word for combination of things, and in the center of it is ownership. Casinos can use blockchain, to confirm results etc, and some just call themself decentralized for marketing reasons. However no matter what their underlying tech is, if they are dealing with a casino license or fiat money, they are  required to do KYC if they don't want to get shut down and fined for not obeying money laundering laws


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Bananington on December 10, 2022, 07:30:18 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.
Claims of their platform being web 3.0 can just be made to fool players that do not have good understanding of what web 3.0 should be but just know about it. It is a bad business practice to use false information to lure people to your business. Any gambling crypto project that uses false information in marketing should be avoided because it already shows that the tendency of not being credible along the line is there.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: dothebeats on December 10, 2022, 08:02:59 PM
Web3 offerings from casinos is just another buzzword that they use to potentially invite in a lot of new players in their site. There isn't really any platform nowadays that aren't requiring new signups to not submit KYC because it will always be a requirement by the government. If they do not comply to this said requirement, they will have no other option but to shutdown or be prosecuted.

Perhaps if the casino operators know how to hide from the law enforcement then web3 casino may be a possibility. But if not, well, you know what happens.

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TrustDice team here. We'd love to say non-KYC-upon-registration casinos do exist, and we are proud to be one! (https://trustdice.win/) Our crypto philosophy is deeply rooted in blockchain, so we absolutely understand crypto users' concerns over privacy since we, too, are crypto users.

In the meanwhile, we do agree that "web 3 casino" is merely a buzzword that misleads abuser about the true technological foundations of the casino, which is sadly always a centralized operation (due to the present limitations of blockchain technologies at large). That's why we don't use such terms in any of our branding and marketing endeavors.

But there will come a time that users will have to do KYC anyway, so while users can create accounts with you without being gatekept by a KYC request, somewhere down the line they will have to face this and it's literally the same thing. Web3 offers none of that commitment, at least that's how I understand it, and truly decentralized gambling platforms will have none of the KYC requirements offered by the government. Well hopefully we get gambling platforms that will never ask for KYC in the future, but that is a stretch right now.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Dunamisx on December 10, 2022, 09:33:57 PM
We know very well that it's simply a way like any other to attract an audience to their activities.

many of these sites know very well that with the current laws they cannot operate by proposing a site without KYC and licenses, therefore they choose these marketing expedients. Maybe they have some * on their promo?!?

considering that bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies provide a level of "pseudo" anonymity such an activity is always borderline ;)

There's no way they can hide under bitcoin just because they know it's decentralized but want to centralized people under it, alot of web3 projects has been seen to have progress to a reasonable extent but more works are still needed beyond they have attained because the world of digital technology itself revolves round about decentralized system, but i so much believe the gambling section will be among the first in lead to succeed through this.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: joeperry on December 11, 2022, 01:38:54 AM
It is actually a both, though they are a gambling site with license which they would mandatory ask players to do KYC as part of their contract with the license provider but I think it is different if the gambling site offers a provably fair games but most of them offer a sports betting and casino which would required the users to submit their KYC.

As a player we should be ready to be asked a KYC assuming that the gambling site has a valid license.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: lienfaye on December 11, 2022, 02:47:19 AM
Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
As what others already pointed out, clearly it's just their way to attract gamblers to lure them out to play on their casino. Then you'll only find out the real deal once you're slap to comply for kyc due to your huge winnings. So if you gamble online always expect the possibility to be asked for kyc because it's already common for a regulated platforms. Anyway can you name these "some" casinos claiming to be web 3 yet asking for kyc?


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: fortunecrypto on December 11, 2022, 02:50:17 AM
I've looked for a list of WEB.30 casinos and I found this list
https://bitcolumnist.com/casinos/top-web3-gambling-sites/ surprisingly some of the top casinos are on the list like Sportbet.io Stake and Fortunejack we have a good number of top casinos in Web 3.0 is the author right in evaluating them as Web 3.0 casinos as far as I know casinos on Web 3.0 are decentralized and you are linking your wallet for total anonymity and you are right that they should not ask for KYC, but it's really hard to be anonymous in the gambling industry where there is strong regulation.



Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: wxa7115 on December 11, 2022, 05:25:00 AM
We know very well that it's simply a way like any other to attract an audience to their activities.

many of these sites know very well that with the current laws they cannot operate by proposing a site without KYC and licenses, therefore they choose these marketing expedients. Maybe they have some * on their promo?!?

considering that bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies provide a level of "pseudo" anonymity such an activity is always borderline ;)
Correct, while most of the time I do not mind a business trying to ride the wave and doing the best they can do to attract customers, I do mind when they do this based on lies and by taking advantage of the ignorance of their clients.

Web3 has become nothing but a buzzword to try to make a project to be part of this new hype, but which at the end it does no present the decentralization they claim, similar to what we see on any list of the top 10 coins in this market in which the majority of those coins are not decentralized either.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: noormcs5 on December 11, 2022, 05:43:33 AM
We know very well that it's simply a way like any other to attract an audience to their activities.

many of these sites know very well that with the current laws they cannot operate by proposing a site without KYC and licenses, therefore they choose these marketing expedients. Maybe they have some * on their promo?!?

considering that bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies provide a level of "pseudo" anonymity such an activity is always borderline ;)
Correct, while most of the time I do not mind a business trying to ride the wave and doing the best they can do to attract customers, I do mind when they do this based on lies and by taking advantage of the ignorance of their clients.

Web3 has become nothing but a buzzword to try to make a project to be part of this new hype, but which at the end it does no present the decentralization they claim, similar to what we see on any list of the top 10 coins in this market in which the majority of those coins are not decentralized either.

Don't know if any serious business can do such cheap tricks to gain business and gamblers in this case. Marketing which is based on the false statement is not long lasting and sooner and later the people will realize it and it will bring more bad name to the gambling casino.

I am fed up seeing casinos with marketing stunts like it is a defi caisno, it is a web 3 casino , it is an NFT based casino and so on and on. Casino has no link to these terms but they just use these hype because they are trending in the market.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: maydna on December 11, 2022, 09:09:13 AM
Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
As what others already pointed out, clearly it's just their way to attract gamblers to lure them out to play on their casino. Then you'll only find out the real deal once you're slap to comply for kyc due to your huge winnings. So if you gamble online always expect the possibility to be asked for kyc because it's already common for a regulated platforms. Anyway can you name these "some" casinos claiming to be web 3 yet asking for kyc?
There are many ways that casinos will attract more gamblers, but when it comes to KYC, casinos can ask you to KYC whenever they want. But as gamblers, maybe they are not thinking about web 3 or not because what they are looking for is a casino that doesn't require detailed KYC. And if they have found a casino that does not require KYC, they will not move to another casino, especially if they are already comfortable playing gambling. Casinos using web 3 are casinos that allow gamblers to link their wallets to their gambling accounts without going through the registration process.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Jawhead999 on December 11, 2022, 09:23:58 AM
Don't know if any serious business can do such cheap tricks to gain business and gamblers in this case. Marketing which is based on the false statement is not long lasting and sooner and later the people will realize it and it will bring more bad name to the gambling casino.

I am fed up seeing casinos with marketing stunts like it is a defi caisno, it is a web 3 casino , it is an NFT based casino and so on and on. Casino has no link to these terms but they just use these hype because they are trending in the market.
Not really, you can see there's a casino with Web 3.0 integration that has decent reputation in this forum. There's few users already explain about the misunderstanding of Web 3.0 but no one hear or don't care about it. There's also many casinos have a promotion about no KYC, but when someone win big, the casino will ask the winner to submit KYC lol. Those misleading casino should get negative feedback to be honest, but many users think it's harsh since they're not scam anyone.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: delfastTions on December 11, 2022, 09:59:13 AM
Don't know if any serious business can do such cheap tricks to gain business and gamblers in this case. Marketing which is based on the false statement is not long lasting and sooner and later the people will realize it and it will bring more bad name to the gambling casino.

I am fed up seeing casinos with marketing stunts like it is a defi caisno, it is a web 3 casino , it is an NFT based casino and so on and on. Casino has no link to these terms but they just use these hype because they are trending in the market.
Not really, you can see there's a casino with Web 3.0 integration that has decent reputation in this forum. There's few users already explain about the misunderstanding of Web 3.0 but no one hear or don't care about it. There's also many casinos have a promotion about no KYC, but when someone win big, the casino will ask the winner to submit KYC lol. Those misleading casino should get negative feedback to be honest, but many users think it's harsh since they're not scam anyone.
In general, no casino can guarantee that citizens will not be required to undergo the KYC procedure.  It also annoys me that many casinos say that KYC is not required, and when a player is going to deposit a large amount, the casino may not give money without KYC.

 And yet, the procedure itself does not have a normal standard of passage.  Either they require a photo with a date, or documents next to your face.  In general - you present a photo of the receipt for payment of utility bills.  And the document, Brad is some kind of mockery of a person. 
The variability of KYC is a disgusting thing, why is there still no generally accepted standard?


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: o48o on December 11, 2022, 10:34:19 AM
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Yeah, technically they do exist, but just don't expect any help from the police when a casino that is out of reach of your regulatory jurisdiction decides to do exit scam or just steal your money based on some made up excuse. When they don't need to follow AML laws, you can imagine how much they are bounded by other laws. Basically they need only to follow the rules of the country they are based on.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Alisha-k on December 11, 2022, 11:55:05 AM
Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
As what others already pointed out, clearly it's just their way to attract gamblers to lure them out to play on their casino. Then you'll only find out the real deal once you're slap to comply for kyc due to your huge winnings. So if you gamble online always expect the possibility to be asked for kyc because it's already common for a regulated platforms. Anyway can you name these "some" casinos claiming to be web 3 yet asking for kyc?
There are many ways that casinos will attract more gamblers, but when it comes to KYC, casinos can ask you to KYC whenever they want. But as gamblers, maybe they are not thinking about web 3 or not because what they are looking for is a casino that doesn't require detailed KYC. And if they have found a casino that does not require KYC, they will not move to another casino, especially if they are already comfortable playing gambling. Casinos using web 3 are casinos that allow gamblers to link their wallets to their gambling accounts without going through the registration process.
Web3 based Casinos don't necessarily imply decentralisation. Some web3 Casino are centralised and been centralised KYC verification get involved.  The advantage web3 casinos has over the regular casino is the ability to link wallet addresses as deposit and withdrawal. KYC is needed to limit money laundering and terrorist financing


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: goaldigger on December 11, 2022, 12:57:29 PM
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Yeah, technically they do exist, but just don't expect any help from the police when a casino that is out of reach of your regulatory jurisdiction decides to do exit scam or just steal your money based on some made up excuse. When they don't need to follow AML laws, you can imagine how much they are bounded by other laws. Basically they need only to follow the rules of the country they are based on.
Many site are still KYC free though but most of them started to collect details from their gamblers and that's why there's a panic regarding this.
If the site mislead the gamblers in the first place then that is a red flag and you should get out of that site right away because for sure, KYC will still be asked later on. Claiming to be a web 3.0 project is quiet an overhyped and an obvious attempt to attract gamblers by giving out false information. This is not a misunderstanding for sure, they are doing this intentionally, any new site doing things like this?


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: worle1bm on December 11, 2022, 01:46:05 PM
The former one is right as they introduce themselves on the web3 grounds attracting more users to them and once you deposit your money you find out the same KYC norms so it's better to play in legit casinos rather then rushing to them as they also operates on the central chain so no decentralisation concept in them as well.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Solosanz on December 11, 2022, 02:26:00 PM
Web3 based Casinos don't necessarily imply decentralisation. Some web3 Casino are centralised and been centralised KYC verification get involved.  The advantage web3 casinos has over the regular casino is the ability to link wallet addresses as deposit and withdrawal. KYC is needed to limit money laundering and terrorist financing
It's mean you're not understand anything about Web 3.0 and just shitposting in order to fill your quota requirement.

Defining Features of Web 3.0
Though there is as yet no standardized definition of Web 3.0, it does have a few defining features:

Decentralization: This is a core tenet of Web 3.0. In Web 2.0, computers use HTTP in the form of unique web addresses to find information, which is stored at a fixed location, generally on a single server. With Web 3.0, because information would be found based on its content, it could be stored in multiple locations simultaneously and hence be decentralized. This would break down the massive databases currently held by internet giants like Meta and Google and would hand greater control to users.

With Web 3.0, the data generated by disparate and increasingly powerful computing resources, including mobile phones, desktops, appliances, vehicles, and sensors, will be sold by users through decentralized data networks, ensuring that users retain ownership control.

Trustless and permissionless: In addition to decentralization and being based upon open source software, Web 3.0 will also be trustless (i.e., the network will allow participants to interact directly without going through a trusted intermediary) and permissionless (meaning that anyone can participate without authorization from a governing body). As a result, Web 3.0 applications will run on blockchains or decentralized peer-to-peer networks, or a combination thereof—such decentralized apps are referred to as dApps.

Artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning: In Web 3.0, computers will be able to understand information similarly to humans, through technologies based upon Semantic Web concepts and natural language processing. Web 3.0 will also use machine learning, which is a branch of artificial intelligence (AI) that uses data and algorithms to imitate how humans learn, gradually improving its accuracy. These capabilities will enable computers to produce faster and more relevant results in a host of areas like drug development and new materials, as opposed to merely targeted advertising that forms the bulk of current efforts.

Connectivity and ubiquity: With Web 3.0, information and content are more connected and ubiquitous, accessed by multiple applications and with an increasing number of everyday devices connected to the web—one example of which is the Internet of Things.

You need to open your eyes and read this, it's already written if Web 3.0 will offer decentralization. It's not because some Web 3.0 casino is centralized it mean the Web 3.0 integration is centralized, this is why the @OP create this thread to discuss if those casino are misleading. KYC isn't a appropriate solution to fight against money laundering and terrorist, the fraudster can just use someone identity or using fake KYC.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Taskford on December 11, 2022, 03:36:37 PM
Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
As what others already pointed out, clearly it's just their way to attract gamblers to lure them out to play on their casino. Then you'll only find out the real deal once you're slap to comply for kyc due to your huge winnings. So if you gamble online always expect the possibility to be asked for kyc because it's already common for a regulated platforms. Anyway can you name these "some" casinos claiming to be web 3 yet asking for kyc?
There are many ways that casinos will attract more gamblers, but when it comes to KYC, casinos can ask you to KYC whenever they want. But as gamblers, maybe they are not thinking about web 3 or not because what they are looking for is a casino that doesn't require detailed KYC. And if they have found a casino that does not require KYC, they will not move to another casino, especially if they are already comfortable playing gambling. Casinos using web 3 are casinos that allow gamblers to link their wallets to their gambling accounts without going through the registration process.
Web3 based Casinos don't necessarily imply decentralisation. Some web3 Casino are centralised and been centralised KYC verification get involved.  The advantage web3 casinos has over the regular casino is the ability to link wallet addresses as deposit and withdrawal. KYC is needed to limit money laundering and terrorist financing

And that's how risky it is for connecting the wallet directly to the casino since provably there are crazy people will take advantage on it and try to scam whales by creating fake casino. That's why sometimes I don't like this idea abd we need to be more careful since in the end we are the one who will suffer for the risk we go thru if we miss calculate the wrong doings about such things done by the hackers.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 11, 2022, 03:40:46 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
You made me laugh after reading your lamentations which are actually pointless in the frank sense. Web 3.0 should have been nothing to use but for marketing gimmicks that their site is more advanced and equipped with the third generation web technology, nothing more than that. Certainly, this should not exonerate anyone from not dulling filling in and providing the necessary KYC information and documents.

What do personal information and web security have to do with each other?


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hamphser on December 11, 2022, 06:28:17 PM
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Yeah, technically they do exist, but just don't expect any help from the police when a casino that is out of reach of your regulatory jurisdiction decides to do exit scam or just steal your money based on some made up excuse. When they don't need to follow AML laws, you can imagine how much they are bounded by other laws. Basically they need only to follow the rules of the country they are based on.
Many site are still KYC free though but most of them started to collect details from their gamblers and that's why there's a panic regarding this.
If the site mislead the gamblers in the first place then that is a red flag and you should get out of that site right away because for sure, KYC will still be asked later on. Claiming to be a web 3.0 project is quiet an overhyped and an obvious attempt to attract gamblers by giving out false information. This is not a misunderstanding for sure, they are doing this intentionally, any new site doing things like this?
On the time that you are dealing with gambling platforms which is having that licenses then they might not asked out for some identification on the time you do register but if you do really tend and check it out

their terms and conditions then it is really just almost the same just like on other platforms where they would be imposing that they would be always having the rights on asking it out
whenever or whatever they want.It is really stated most of the time and on the moment that you do ask for some proofs then it is all written on there and it is really just
we had really be able to missed those things.For now that we are seeing having that web3 hype then it wont be surprising that there are ones who would really make use of this
word and trying out to take advantage to lure in those fellas who doesnt really have any idea on what it is in the first place.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: lionheart78 on December 11, 2022, 06:55:16 PM
I've looked for a list of WEB.30 casinos and I found this list
https://bitcolumnist.com/casinos/top-web3-gambling-sites/ surprisingly some of the top casinos are on the list like Sportbet.io Stake and Fortunejack we have a good number of top casinos in Web 3.0 is the author right in evaluating them as Web 3.0 casinos as far as I know casinos on Web 3.0 are decentralized and you are linking your wallet for total anonymity and you are right that they should not ask for KYC, but it's really hard to be anonymous in the gambling industry where there is strong regulation.



No, a platform that is on the Web 3.0 does not need to be decentralized.  Why?  Because Web 3.0 is just an upgrade of web 2.0 where in :

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Web 2.0
Web 2.0, also known as the second generation of the web, is the prevalent web of our era that emerged in 2004 and is still thriving. It is considered the read-write web that facilitates user interaction, which is a massive improvement over the one-way communication that Web 1.0 allowed. It enables websites to produce user-generated content, enhancing usability and interoperability for end-users, thus, making it the participative social web it is.

While web 3.0 is
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Web 3.0
Comprehended as the next generation of the web, web 3.0 is the executable web or read-write-execute version of the web. It is also known as semantic web and is an extension of the World Wide Web that uses standards set by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C). It aims to make the Internet smarter by handling information with human-like intelligence using artificial intelligence systems.

If you are talking about decentralization then you are not talking about web 3.0 but web3 that is created  by the Ethereum co-founder Gavin Wood in 2014.  Take note: WEB 3.0 is different from WEB3.
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Web3 is a decentralized and open web based on blockchain technology. Coined by the Ethereum co-founder Gavin Wood in 2014, the fundamental idea behind web3 is to create a decentralized version of the Internet by removing the dominance of the centralized power of web 2.0 giants like Amazon and Facebook and giving the control back to users.

Web3 hopes to reclaim data ownership from web2 giants and return it to users using blockchain technology, decentralized storage, and self-sovereign identity in a community-driven environment. Users will have the final say regarding who can access what data.

This has been made possible by cryptocurrency wallets like MetaMask, Venly, or TrustWallet, where users store keys to all of their data and identities. They may engage with other blockchain apps in this way and control who has access to their data. Using a crypto wallet to log in to other apps is similar to using a Facebook account, except that all your data is yours to keep and manage.

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https://bitcolumnist.com/casinos/top-web3-gambling-sites/
I do not think that the list given in this site use web3 rather I think it uses web 3.0.  If you are looking for websites that use web3 then you can check this link (https://alvarotrigo.com/blog/web-3-websites/) and see the difference

So don't get surprised if we see casinos that is running in Web 3.0 asking for KYC or being centralized. 

Source:

https://www.leewayhertz.com/web3-vs-web3-0/#:~:text=keep%20and%20manage.-,Difference%20between%20web3%20and%20web%203.0,data%20and%20identity%20to%20users.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: darkangel11 on December 11, 2022, 07:23:07 PM
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TrustDice team here. We'd love to say non-KYC-upon-registration casinos do exist, and we are proud to be one! (https://trustdice.win/) Our crypto philosophy is deeply rooted in blockchain, so we absolutely understand crypto users' concerns over privacy since we, too, are crypto users.
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Yeah, technically they do exist, but just don't expect any help from the police when a casino that is out of reach of your regulatory jurisdiction decides to do exit scam or just steal your money based on some made up excuse. When they don't need to follow AML laws, you can imagine how much they are bounded by other laws. Basically they need only to follow the rules of the country they are based on.

So you're one of those people who prefer regulation and government help in case it goes wrong vs lack of regulations and no help. I'm on the other side of this barricade. I always thought that the less government involvement there is the better, but I'm also a person who would rather protect himself and his family and bear all the consequences if it fails, than be disarmed and rely on the help of government institutions.

IMO there should be no KYC at all and if you're stupid enough to trust a third party with your money you should be ready to lose these money.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Jemzx00 on December 11, 2022, 08:09:27 PM
The former one is right as they introduce themselves on the web3 grounds attracting more users to them and once you deposit your money you find out the same KYC norms so it's better to play in legit casinos rather then rushing to them as they also operates on the central chain so no decentralisation concept in them as well.
As far as I know, Web 3 doesn't really focus on decentralization and KYC information but rather it is just an upgrade or a better web from the previous one which is web 2. It's great to know that a casino has made an update on their platform in integrating Web 3 but it doesn't really affect much to us users much other than having an up-to-date platform. Also, since it isn't connected to decentralization and KYC or your personal information then it won't change if the platform has requested it in the first place.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: livingfree on December 11, 2022, 08:25:14 PM
Could be just another marketing ploy. There's this idea in the business and market that whenever someone has some unknown words to market with, they're using it to make it look more interesting.

And whoever uses them would get to have that great idea for being one of it. It's really a good way to attract new users because it seems cool when you're with a buzz word and using it.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: samuraijin on December 12, 2022, 12:57:10 PM
The former one is right as they introduce themselves on the web3 grounds attracting more users to them and once you deposit your money you find out the same KYC norms so it's better to play in legit casinos rather then rushing to them as they also operates on the central chain so no decentralisation concept in them as well.

If the aim is for security then it's fine in my opinion, but if it goes out of the norm then, switch to gambling playing at official casinos because that will make you comfortable especially, and one more thing, be loyal to the casino you are playing at at this time , because it is your comfort, when playing ..


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ven7net on December 12, 2022, 01:22:16 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

Web3 is certainly a buzzword and a trend right now, but you are correct in pointing out that many gaming platforms may simply be using web3 as an opportunity to get even more attention. But practice shows that you always need to double-check everything and trust only your eyes and knowledge. In any case, the use of web3 is one of the best innovations that brings more new opportunities to the community and the market.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Slow death on December 12, 2022, 02:04:32 PM
these scammers or some people who want to steal money from people or even want to run a casino business but are lazy use things they find popular in the market to be able to create a casino that attracts many customers because most people just listen to something like web3 casino .0 are already thinking of something super good, but they don't even research what the hell is web 3.0, and what does this casino have to do with web 3.0? they only worry about rushing to invest in the casino and then lose money


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: khaled0111 on December 12, 2022, 06:26:55 PM
I may be wrong but I believe web3 is still in its early stages. It's still a mere idea ("putting power in the hands of individuals rather than corporations", "give power back to the users" *) that hasn't completely been conceptualized yet.
Other than the technical challenges devs are facing to make this technology applicable, we should not forget the legislative challenges: a licensed casino is forced by laws to ask for kyc!

The main difference I've noticed between casinos promoting themselves as web3 and other casinos is the possibility to create and access your account by connecting your wallet. Also, they have their own tokens which are supposed to be used on different platforms. All the rest is practically the same.

* https://ethereum.org/en/web3/


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Viscore on December 12, 2022, 07:24:46 PM
Some casinos will do everything just to attract players despite their deceiving advertisements. I've come across a casino claiming to be web 3.0 but to my surprise after wagering and upon withdrawal, they asked me to submit the KYC requirements which made me lose interest in that casino. I guess that's just their marketing strategy since they all know that most players prefer casinos that won't ask for KYC.

First of all, if a casino is web 3, does it means that it will not ask for KYC  ???
Anyways i do agree that some casino just uses the hype of the latest technologies and try to gain customers which is very wrong in my opinion. Advertising is the right of casinos but false advertising is something that should be avoided. If any casino is found doing false advertisements, they may gain some gamblers for the time being but later the truth will be revealed, and gamblers will never trust that site.

A casino should focus on the true facts and not make false ads only to gain new users. If gambling sites do like that, people will talk bad about those sites and soon no one will play there.
Most likely when we hear web3 casinos, for me it sounds like a new era of gambling, until we start to experience that certain casinos and end up being disappointed. It’s still the same with the usuals casinos asking for KYC, nothing is really new. I guess the term web3 is just put and being associated in the names of the casinos just to attract new users and become tempted to play. Yes, this is more of a false advertisement which I think any casino that is doing that should be given a red flag and negative feedback so they can also learn their lesson.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Dunamisx on December 12, 2022, 07:54:39 PM
Most likely when we hear web3 casinos, for me it sounds like a new era of gambling, until we start to experience that certain casinos and end up being disappointed. It’s still the same with the usuals casinos asking for KYC, nothing is really new. I guess the term web3 is just put and being associated in the names of the casinos just to attract new users and become tempted to play. Yes, this is more of a false advertisement which I think any casino that is doing that should be given a red flag and negative feedback so they can also learn their lesson.

There's nothing new just exactly as you've made mention when it comes to gambling casinos stating they are incorporating a web3 gambling website, it makes no any different from the ones we have in existence before and web3 has nothing to do with stopping them from demanding for KYC at the end, we know it's part of a marketing strategy adopted to captivate gamblers where as some may also come in claiming theirs is 3D or HD graphics casino or betting site which mean thesame thing as a marketing strategy or repackaging.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Desmong on December 12, 2022, 10:59:18 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
This happens when the when the gamblers do not understand what they really needs or understand the meaning of web 3.0. I have see many crypto projects that are been claiming to be on web 3.0 and help users to stay decentralized. When we don't understand what we want the problem will continue and this had been the market problem of many users and crypto investors including gamblers.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: minime0105 on December 12, 2022, 11:23:25 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
This happens when the when the gamblers do not understand what they really needs or understand the meaning of web 3.0. I have see many crypto projects that are been claiming to be on web 3.0 and help users to stay decentralized. When we don't understand what we want the problem will continue and this had been the market problem of many users and crypto investors including gamblers.
But from my own understanding I believe that every gambler knows what it wants, because i think gamblers have to do research to be able to detect exactly what they needs, but in a certain point, some of the claiming what they don't know feels like claiming in different ways of what they  cannot definition or don't know.you are right because some do not investigate to detect or able to know what they want or the easiest way to know what they don't know.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Yatsan on December 13, 2022, 05:11:26 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
This happens when the when the gamblers do not understand what they really needs or understand the meaning of web 3.0. I have see many crypto projects that are been claiming to be on web 3.0 and help users to stay decentralized. When we don't understand what we want the problem will continue and this had been the market problem of many users and crypto investors including gamblers.
But from my own understanding I believe that every gambler knows what it wants, because i think gamblers have to do research to be able to detect exactly what they needs, but in a certain point, some of the claiming what they don't know feels like claiming in different ways of what they  cannot definition or don't know.you are right because some do not investigate to detect or able to know what they want or the easiest way to know what they don't know.
Maybe because of adjustments. Even before, KYC is not that of a big deal towards gambling site but maybe because of problems which arose such as minors being able to play, identity theft and such, they made such change even if it would  oppose their concept or 'wholeness' of a gambling platform. But indeed that is correct; web 3.0 should not be concerned with such informations from the users. However, gambling platforms' point of view might be more concerned with their players than their 'pride' of being under mentioned category. Some players would appreciate it especially to those who are one with duch feature, but it is not surprising to know that there will be people who won't.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Plaguedeath on December 13, 2022, 07:15:49 AM
I see most people pointing out if Web 3.0 casino that require KYC is a red flag and just a marketing purpose since it's not actually decentralized, does it mean this casino is shady and deserved to get negative tag? I think when the casino has a red flag and didn't remove the words that's controversial, DT members will give negative tag to them. There's many web 3.0 casino didn't get negative tag yet, so?


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: davis196 on December 13, 2022, 07:54:08 AM
The casinos are required by the law to ask for KYC verification. It doesn't matter how "decentralized" they claim to be.
Of course, they can decide to stay on the dark side and never comply to any rules and regulations. This might hurt their business in the long term. I'm not an expert in the field or web3 and smart contracts, but I think that truly decentralized gambling games must be really slow and they usually don't provide a good experience for the player/gambler. The way online casinos operate will remain centralized in the next few years. Web3 is more like a buzzword, similar to ICOs back in 2017, DeFi, NFTs and all the other "shiny objects" and "innovations" surrounding the crypto world.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: maydna on December 13, 2022, 09:31:54 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
This happens when the when the gamblers do not understand what they really needs or understand the meaning of web 3.0. I have see many crypto projects that are been claiming to be on web 3.0 and help users to stay decentralized. When we don't understand what we want the problem will continue and this had been the market problem of many users and crypto investors including gamblers.
Most gamblers follow what others are doing without doing any research to find the casino they want. That causes many of them to have a bad experience using the wrong casino and only complain. Maybe not many people understand the meaning of web 3.0 or web 3. And this is why there are still misunderstandings among people out there. And we should use the casino that we are used to so that we are fine while playing gambling.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: vanesha on December 13, 2022, 02:41:27 PM
Are any of those who named them Web 3.0 gambling successful? I think they might need a user identity for something, yes this is just a caution to you. having to be decentralized is more of a thing and it should have no KYC at all.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: DoublerHunter on December 13, 2022, 10:08:23 PM
Are any of those who named them Web 3.0 gambling successful? I think they might need a user identity for something, yes this is just a caution to you. having to be decentralized is more of a thing and it should have no KYC at all.
^ I think there is, https://www.esports.net/news/top-3-blockchain-gaming-platforms/.
Here in the forum if I am not mistaken, Gandom casino is also a web3 casino.
Because once the casino is licensed and regulated it is expected that the casino will ask for KYC from their user and right, this web3 is just marketing ads that mislead new gambler thing web3 is a fully decentralized casino. However, some of them, have dApp that does not really ask for KYC and probably there is but only minor information such as the mobile number and email address.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: lionheart78 on December 13, 2022, 10:33:36 PM
Are any of those who named them Web 3.0 gambling successful? I think they might need a user identity for something, yes this is just a caution to you. having to be decentralized is more of a thing and it should have no KYC at all.
And that how it should be but still asking out those KYC which does simply means that they arent running that 3.0 in the first place but rather they are really just deceiving out people that they are like that

but we know that community wouldnt really be dumb as fuck on not to be able to make out differentiation in between web3 into those common centralized casinos or platforms that we do have today.
It is really just trying to make use of that word but cant eventually be able to apply since it wasnt really like that in the beginning.If they are really that making in use of those words
or claims just to hook up people and find out later on about the truth then i wont be shocked that they wouldnt really be getting any users far on ahead.

Not because a casino is running in a web3 means it shouldn't be centralized.  web3 is supposed to be decentralized because it was the original plan but just like blockchain technology that has both centralized and decentralized categories, I believe web 3 will have the same.  Please take note, web 3.0 and web3 are two different version.  Web3 is an alternative branch wherein it runs in blockchain technology while web 3.0 as stated in the earlier reply as an upgrade of web 2.0 which have a more advanced function.

I do not think it is an issue if a casino is running in web3 and ask for KYC since the most casino isn't decentralized anyway.  They have a central operation team, and all activities are centralized and governed by the company heads and staff.  It is also isn't a lie when a casino advertises that they are running in web3 but are still centralized in all aspects as long as they don't say they are a decentralized entity.  So I don't ever think a web3 casino asking for KYC is a red tag as long as the casino is licensed by the authority, they are subject to regulation and law.  As a matter of fact, I find it green.



Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ultrloa on December 13, 2022, 10:56:03 PM
Are any of those who named them Web 3.0 gambling successful? I think they might need a user identity for something, yes this is just a caution to you. having to be decentralized is more of a thing and it should have no KYC at all.
And that how it should be but still asking out those KYC which does simply means that they arent running that 3.0 in the first place but rather they are really just deceiving out people that they are like that

but we know that community wouldnt really be dumb as fuck on not to be able to make out differentiation in between web3 into those common centralized casinos or platforms that we do have today.
It is really just trying to make use of that word but cant eventually be able to apply since it wasnt really like that in the beginning.If they are really that making in use of those words
or claims just to hook up people and find out later on about the truth then i wont be shocked that they wouldnt really be getting any users far on ahead.

Maybe a sort of and some of it maybe also trying to comply with certain regulation.

But for now since this web 3.0 thing is famous word I believe this is just pure marketing strat by casino to attach it on their name so that many people would be curious to know what really into the web 3 especially on casino.

We should try not to get with this and only see those reputable casino implement since if smaller ones will just use it without any changes happen to their casino maybe they are just trying to bait and want to deceive people.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: 2double0 on December 13, 2022, 11:03:09 PM
Nothing in this world comes for free.
As the saying goes, it shows that marketers will do anything to market their products and sell it to the targeted audience for some value. When we talk about gambling, I don't think that too many sites ask for KYC verification until and unless deemed necessary.
While some casinos intentionally do it to stop the winner take their huge winnings out, there are also some casinos who really comply with the regulations of the jurisdiction they're holding their businesses at.
The web 3.0 was a nice way to market their services to everyone but when btc isn't decentralised itself, don't expect these cheap scripts (many casinos copy the same script) to provide you with such an important solution.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: mitchr4 on December 13, 2022, 11:57:14 PM
Are any of those who named them Web 3.0 gambling successful? I think they might need a user identity for something, yes this is just a caution to you. having to be decentralized is more of a thing and it should have no KYC at all.
Owl Games which has been running for almost 1 year and is still running. They use web 3.0 casino and require KYC for specific purposes according to the rules of the casino.

The use of web 3.0 in a casino depends on the casino owner. Although the main function of web 3.0 is not like that. This is just a marketing strategy to attract players' attention, but in reality players still have to provide their identity. I think players should have some understanding of web 3.0.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: btc78 on December 14, 2022, 01:26:14 AM
Are any of those who named them Web 3.0 gambling successful? I think they might need a user identity for something, yes this is just a caution to you. having to be decentralized is more of a thing and it should have no KYC at all.
Dunno if there are even one that succeed in this web 3.0 thing about gambling but what I only knew that this is not truly a good thing for gambling public, there are even many that uses this to attract players but the truth is they don't really have.
Are any of those who named them Web 3.0 gambling successful? I think they might need a user identity for something, yes this is just a caution to you. having to be decentralized is more of a thing and it should have no KYC at all.
^ I think there is, https://www.esports.net/news/top-3-blockchain-gaming-platforms/.
Here in the forum if I am not mistaken, Gandom casino is also a web3 casino.
Because once the casino is licensed and regulated it is expected that the casino will ask for KYC from their user and right, this web3 is just marketing ads that mislead new gambler thing web3 is a fully decentralized casino. However, some of them, have dApp that does not really ask for KYC and probably there is but only minor information such as the mobile number and email address.
Yet not successful as what we expect ? because we knew that crypto gamblers Enemy is KYC requirements .


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Docnaster on December 14, 2022, 07:56:53 AM
Most likely when we hear web3 casinos, for me it sounds like a new era of gambling, until we start to experience that certain casinos and end up being disappointed. It’s still the same with the usuals casinos asking for KYC, nothing is really new. I guess the term web3 is just put and being associated in the names of the casinos just to attract new users and become tempted to play. Yes, this is more of a false advertisement which I think any casino that is doing that should be given a red flag and negative feedback so they can also learn their lesson.

There's nothing new just exactly as you've made mention when it comes to gambling casinos stating they are incorporating a web3 gambling website, it makes no any different from the ones we have in existence before and web3 has nothing to do with stopping them from demanding for KYC at the end, we know it's part of a marketing strategy adopted to captivate gamblers where as some may also come in claiming theirs is 3D or HD graphics casino or betting site which mean thesame thing as a marketing strategy or repackaging.
We might not be seeing much difference based on the system it is implemented. You now it is a new technology and alot of people can be misusing it  until the right way to use it is known. I know some companies who cannot do without kyc are intentionally misusing it to their favour. As time goes on things can change alot and the real usage web3 can been seen in gambling industry


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on December 14, 2022, 10:28:03 AM
Crypto newbies can get confused with the web 3 implementation on gambling platforms , thinking the experience will be different but later they will realize that it's still the same old online gambling ways, nothing new, they will learn their lessons.

There are so many new crypto project that attached Web 3 and Metaverse to their name, it's all for the advertising sake, most won't deliver anything new and some will leave the aim half way.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: mak013 on December 14, 2022, 11:19:13 AM
You are using sometimes Web3 and sometimes Web 3.0. But there are huge difference between Web3 and Web 3.0. So it would be better to decide about what do you talking are?
But the same time if someone wants marketing promotion he can use both Web3 and Web 3.0 and i don`t think that lots of people will think that he is cheating them.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: nasipadang on December 14, 2022, 03:12:36 PM
The attachment of the word web 3 or Web 3.0, based on the OP for that matter, is rampantly used as a clout chasing approach of marketing in many projects. I am certain that a lot of users here does not really know what such entails and what to be expected about it, and so many cannot attest if such advertisement is practically true or not. Given the case, without the proper understanding of the real essence of web 3 or web 3.0, many fails to become successful in truly administering it to their platforms.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: danadc on December 14, 2022, 08:39:12 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
This happens when the when the gamblers do not understand what they really needs or understand the meaning of web 3.0. I have see many crypto projects that are been claiming to be on web 3.0 and help users to stay decentralized. When we don't understand what we want the problem will continue and this had been the market problem of many users and crypto investors including gamblers.
Most gamblers follow what others are doing without doing any research to find the casino they want. That causes many of them to have a bad experience using the wrong casino and only complain. Maybe not many people understand the meaning of web 3.0 or web 3. And this is why there are still misunderstandings among people out there. And we should use the casino that we are used to so that we are fine while playing gambling.

It all depends on what people want to see and understand, there are many and among them they don't know what Web3 is and I know that this is something that can be technical, but when talking about such technical things it's always good to have a section where they explain what that means, for some players who have a lot of experience and who have been playing for many years they know perfectly well what it is and that despite not being programmers or very knowledgeable, but I have seen that here in the forum many things will depend techniques because the players speak with many technical criteria that sometimes I don't understand and that they make me study to learn.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hamphser on December 14, 2022, 08:58:42 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
This happens when the when the gamblers do not understand what they really needs or understand the meaning of web 3.0. I have see many crypto projects that are been claiming to be on web 3.0 and help users to stay decentralized. When we don't understand what we want the problem will continue and this had been the market problem of many users and crypto investors including gamblers.
Most gamblers follow what others are doing without doing any research to find the casino they want. That causes many of them to have a bad experience using the wrong casino and only complain. Maybe not many people understand the meaning of web 3.0 or web 3. And this is why there are still misunderstandings among people out there. And we should use the casino that we are used to so that we are fine while playing gambling.

It all depends on what people want to see and understand, there are many and among them they don't know what Web3 is and I know that this is something that can be technical, but when talking about such technical things it's always good to have a section where they explain what that means, for some players who have a lot of experience and who have been playing for many years they know perfectly well what it is and that despite not being programmers or very knowledgeable, but I have seen that here in the forum many things will depend techniques because the players speak with many technical criteria that sometimes I don't understand and that they make me study to learn.

Yes, this is exactly on point on which people should really be having at least that kind of idea and knowledge on what Web3 is all about because if not then they would be just simply dealing up with things just

because someone had claimed out that theyre a web3 based platform without even knowing on whats web3 and they do just simply go just because of some hype and not totally knowing the
true essence of web3 since they had just been hyped out.Comparing into those people who are really that keeps eyeing on web3 would eventually notice the main differences
and if you are really that knowledgeable on what it is, then you could really easily throw out those comments and feedbacks on what really is.People should really be
aware that web3 isnt really something like this.It is really just there are platforms or projects which do make use of these words just to make themselves look
cool or something that its first on this industry.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: drwhobox on December 14, 2022, 11:59:32 PM
I see most people pointing out if Web 3.0 casino that require KYC is a red flag and just a marketing purpose since it's not actually decentralized, does it mean this casino is shady and deserved to get negative tag? I think when the casino has a red flag and didn't remove the words that's controversial, DT members will give negative tag to them. There's many web 3.0 casino didn't get negative tag yet, so?
A casino can ask for KYC if it is needed. All that web 3.0 is an overhyped thing, and yes it is not actually decentralized. If the casino needs to verify its customer and needs to look at the credentials of that customer they ask for KYC. Web 3.0 casino and decentralization is just here for marketing purpose.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Peanutswar on December 15, 2022, 12:57:46 PM
Some casinos will do everything just to attract players despite their deceiving advertisements. I've come across a casino claiming to be web 3.0 but to my surprise after wagering and upon withdrawal, they asked me to submit the KYC requirements which made me lose interest in that casino. I guess that's just their marketing strategy since they all know that most players prefer casinos that won't ask for KYC.

First of all, if a casino is web 3, does it means that it will not ask for KYC  ???
Anyways i do agree that some casino just uses the hype of the latest technologies and try to gain customers which is very wrong in my opinion. Advertising is the right of casinos but false advertising is something that should be avoided. If any casino is found doing false advertisements, they may gain some gamblers for the time being but later the truth will be revealed, and gamblers will never trust that site.

A casino should focus on the true facts and not make false ads only to gain new users. If gambling sites do like that, people will talk bad about those sites and soon no one will play there.
Most likely when we hear web3 casinos, for me it sounds like a new era of gambling, until we start to experience that certain casinos and end up being disappointed. It’s still the same with the usuals casinos asking for KYC, nothing is really new. I guess the term web3 is just put and being associated in the names of the casinos just to attract new users and become tempted to play. Yes, this is more of a false advertisement which I think any casino that is doing that should be given a red flag and negative feedback so they can also learn their lesson.

Currently most of the gambling casino I've seen using their advertisement with the use of bonuses, referrals and free spins for their players and of course one of the greatest feature is with the use of their web3 adaptation which is the use of the wallets as the form of login and make deposit easily but its not saying that KYC is not now needed still the gambling casino asking for the KYC to make sure their customer is legitimate you can create a lot of wallet and use those as a form of login and not as verification else the wallets have their own KYCs and of course the anonymity is now like the secured and sure only few people will not use this wallet. It is just a feature but not part that let user not submit their KYC.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: worldofcoins on December 15, 2022, 01:50:57 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

I don't understand why people don't like KYC policy when it is for their safety, as it ensures the user's credibility. This trend must be changed. As for web 3.0, we are waiting for its users' feedback to have a better idea.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Moneyprism on December 16, 2022, 07:08:01 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

it seems that this casino platform just wants to attract people to be able to use their platform, even though they don't implement web3 on their platform.. they really use crypto on their platform,, but this is not the intention of WEB3, it is a concept that combines decentralization, blockchain technology, and a token-based economy, and concepts like this would not be possible to implement on a casino platform


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: minime0105 on December 16, 2022, 07:16:38 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

Don't be confused between Web3 and Web 3.0  they are fundamentally different[1].  As stated by that article, "web3 is blockchain based whereas web 3.0 is semantic web which means it is a common framework that allows user to reuse and share data across different enterprises, applications, and communities."

In addition, blockchain based doesn't necessary need to be decentralized.  There are centralized blockchain so it wouldn't be a surprised if some Gambling Casino platform that claim to be web3 integrated asks for KYC.






[1] https://productcoalition.com/web3-versus-web-3-0-the-basic-concepts-and-differences-e25f7f05ca33
I want to say if that is the difference that means it doesn't have anything to do with KYC as it may implies, because i believe that the genesis of this, is really depends on the functional meaningful of web3 and also the meaning of web3.0 . KYC is very important which i know that KYC is, but the problem is that some people doesn't like KYC because of they seem KYC like something take is stressful, at least this your explanation have throw more insight to us.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: worle1bm on December 16, 2022, 07:25:17 AM
I don't understand why people don't like KYC policy when it is for their safety, as it ensures the user's credibility. This trend must be changed. As for web 3.0, we are waiting for its users' feedback to have a better idea.
When you are playing over crypto casinos you are expecting some sort of privacy and many wants to remain anonymous here gambling with fun but KYC is like revealing their identity ending up their base purpose so this is why it's the most debatable topic but if you are comfortable with it then you can surely go with it and those who are not find it hard.The casino says they have to follow the rules and regulations and prevent fraudulent withdrawal which is why it's mandatory but players want to remain anonymous so this is main conflict.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Dunamisx on December 16, 2022, 08:19:14 AM
We just need to accept ba casino the way it is or leave it for another, there's no how they can maneuver their plans to change or present it from being a KYC casino to the one that does not requires it, gamblers need to understand that there are many casinos that can serve them right as long as they desire for new ones, what you don't search is what you can't find, there are non kyc casinos available but any casino that present you not to request for such and being a kyc casino will still do such later when you least expected but by them it will be a disappointments because you wouldn't expect them to do so when you needed them most for your service.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: minime0105 on December 16, 2022, 09:38:22 AM
I don't understand why people don't like KYC policy when it is for their safety, as it ensures the user's credibility. This trend must be changed. As for web 3.0, we are waiting for its users' feedback to have a better idea.
When you are playing over crypto casinos you are expecting some sort of privacy and many wants to remain anonymous here gambling with fun but KYC is like revealing their identity ending up their base purpose so this is why it's the most debatable topic but if you are comfortable with it then you can surely go with it and those who are not find it hard.The casino says they have to follow the rules and regulations and prevent fraudulent withdrawal which is why it's mandatory but players want to remain anonymous so this is main conflict.
You are on point, because we having bet on casino platform it's just because of your choice in that particular casino, and that's why some reputable casino casino will ensure that you have done or partake on the verification documentation in casino, so i believe that in any casino KYC the site is only protecting the interest of the players and the platform also, so that scam will not take the root of their platform, so when a platform gives condition is Left for the players to accept or they forget that particular side.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: FatFork on December 16, 2022, 10:05:10 AM
I don't understand why people don't like KYC policy when it is for their safety, as it ensures the user's credibility. This trend must be changed.

Customers may not want to provide full details of their personal information, or they may feel uncomfortable sharing this information with a business they don't trust or don't know well. This is especially true when it comes to financial transactions, where the consequences of identity theft are much more severe. Additionally, some people may be concerned about their privacy or the security of their personal information or they may also be concerned that the information will be used in ways they don't approve. This is especially true in cases where business doesn't have a good reason for requesting personal information. In these situations, customers may feel that their rights are being violated. And I don't think this trend will change as long as there are bad players in the industry who will take advantage of people's personal information.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: coin.princess on December 16, 2022, 11:26:21 AM
I think some gambling owners doesn't really understand what it is but I also think it is because it contradicts what they have on their license and which they need to follow, some people wanted to play sports betting with Web 3.0 but the gambling site won't be able to offer it if they won't get a license and in order to get a license they need to follow its restrictions and requirements, which includes KYC.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Ngemmeng on December 16, 2022, 01:45:13 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

it seems that this casino platform just wants to attract people to be able to use their platform, even though they don't implement web3 on their platform.. they really use crypto on their platform,, but this is not the intention of WEB3, it is a concept that combines decentralization, blockchain technology, and a token-based economy, and concepts like this would not be possible to implement on a casino platform
the fact is that most people still don't really know what is meant by web3. and nowadays many crypto projects claim to have used web3 with the aim of attracting investors' attention. with the notion of web3 as you say that is decentralization, blockchain technology and token-based economy makes it impossible to implement web3 on casino platforms. then what is the reason web3 is impossible to implement on the casino platform?


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: pawanjain on December 16, 2022, 03:39:36 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

Don't be confused between Web3 and Web 3.0  they are fundamentally different[1].  As stated by that article, "web3 is blockchain based whereas web 3.0 is semantic web which means it is a common framework that allows user to reuse and share data across different enterprises, applications, and communities."

In addition, blockchain based doesn't necessary need to be decentralized.  There are centralized blockchain so it wouldn't be a surprised if some Gambling Casino platform that claim to be web3 integrated asks for KYC.






[1] https://productcoalition.com/web3-versus-web-3-0-the-basic-concepts-and-differences-e25f7f05ca33

That is some good piece of info. I didn't knew both are different things too.
Although I still didn't get the exact difference yet but I can at least dig deeper into it to find out more details.
Also, we know how people use the buzz words like blockchain, metaverse etc... to promote their projects so may be these casinos might be doing the same thing.
We have to do our due diligence to make sure we are not falling for this marketing tactics.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Peanutswar on December 16, 2022, 03:49:00 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

I don't understand why people don't like KYC policy when it is for their safety, as it ensures the user's credibility. This trend must be changed. As for web 3.0, we are waiting for its users' feedback to have a better idea.


Seems like you don't get worry regarding with your information because it is just okay with you to give your information with ID and can be use as an identity theft in the feature well then its your choice you can not blame them why other people still wanting to don't have with this KYC, simply here is you give your information exchange with the small amount of winning that's all, in web 3 it is just another way of login and convenient to make a deposit and withdrawal but it does not remove the use of the KYC.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: maydna on December 16, 2022, 04:25:51 PM
I think some gambling owners doesn't really understand what it is but I also think it is because it contradicts what they have on their license and which they need to follow, some people wanted to play sports betting with Web 3.0 but the gambling site won't be able to offer it if they won't get a license and in order to get a license they need to follow its restrictions and requirements, which includes KYC.
The business owner can create a casino using Web 3.0, where gamblers can use their personal wallets to access their gambling accounts so that gamblers do not need to do KYC. This KYC issue is a personal matter. Only gamblers know whether they want to avoid KYC or will want to do it in the future.

And gamblers still play casino gambling usually without thinking about whether one day they will be asked to do KYC by the casino. And if they are asked to do KYC, anyone will want to do it as long as it's a trusted casino.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: rby on December 16, 2022, 04:53:33 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

It is a way to attract users because every project developer knows what they built their project on. Just like many altcoins  developers will tell you that their project is privacy based and decentralized while the project is highly centralized.
Another key thing is that there is difference between web3 and web3.0 as regards acceptance of kyc.
Generally, new technologies are often misinterpreted deliberately to deceive novice.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: paxmao on December 16, 2022, 05:45:28 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
This happens when the when the gamblers do not understand what they really needs or understand the meaning of web 3.0. I have see many crypto projects that are been claiming to be on web 3.0 and help users to stay decentralized. When we don't understand what we want the problem will continue and this had been the market problem of many users and crypto investors including gamblers.
Most gamblers follow what others are doing without doing any research to find the casino they want. That causes many of them to have a bad experience using the wrong casino and only complain. Maybe not many people understand the meaning of web 3.0 or web 3. And this is why there are still misunderstandings among people out there. And we should use the casino that we are used to so that we are fine while playing gambling.

It all depends on what people want to see and understand, there are many and among them they don't know what Web3 is and I know that this is something that can be technical, but when talking about such technical things it's always good to have a section where they explain what that means, for some players who have a lot of experience and who have been playing for many years they know perfectly well what it is and that despite not being programmers or very knowledgeable, but I have seen that here in the forum many things will depend techniques because the players speak with many technical criteria that sometimes I don't understand and that they make me study to learn.


I think most people t this point can tell that there are a lot of buzz words in anything that is innovative or recent. Web 3.0 is kind of a buzzword, an different people may understand different things and some sites will just, as usual, claim to be W 3.0 just to attract more customers. The key is to see what is real and what is in front of you on a site, do not be fooled for claims if there do nothing for you.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Finestream on December 16, 2022, 08:27:02 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
Probably, it’s one way to make people believed that it’s different from others and to attract more users and let them experience by themselves. Although I would say that the operators have research about web3, but so far I have not experienced this yet, and maybe some operators have wanted to adopt it and are still making some preparations to finally realize it in the future.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: carlfebz2 on December 16, 2022, 10:05:28 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
Probably, it’s one way to make people believed that it’s different from others and to attract more users and let them experience by themselves. Although I would say that the operators have research about web3, but so far I have not experienced this yet, and maybe some operators have wanted to adopt it and are still making some preparations to finally realize it in the future.
When we do speak about web 3 casino then it would be particularly meaning into this.

Web3 Casino ecosystem is a fusion of Businesses between Casino, sports betting, NFT and Decentralized crypto wallets or Dapps. Is an idea for a new iteration of the gambling which incorporates concepts such as decentralization, blockchain technologies, and token-based economics.

Source (https://sirplay.com/web3-casino/#:~:text=Web3%20Casino%20ecosystem%20is%20a,%2C%20and%20token%2Dbased%20economics.)

If people do see that its still that still centralized then its really totally opposite on how it should be.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: danadc on December 16, 2022, 10:53:41 PM
I don't understand why people don't like KYC policy when it is for their safety, as it ensures the user's credibility. This trend must be changed.

Customers may not want to provide full details of their personal information, or they may feel uncomfortable sharing this information with a business they don't trust or don't know well. This is especially true when it comes to financial transactions, where the consequences of identity theft are much more severe. Additionally, some people may be concerned about their privacy or the security of their personal information or they may also be concerned that the information will be used in ways they don't approve. This is especially true in cases where business doesn't have a good reason for requesting personal information. In these situations, customers may feel that their rights are being violated. And I don't think this trend will change as long as there are bad players in the industry who will take advantage of people's personal information.

Many people do not want to give their KYC details because they are tired of being controlled. When I started in the crypto world, I did it with a privacy coin project that seemed to have a lot of future, but they spoiled it with many bad ideas and They treated investors badly, it's a project that died for me, which is still out there surviving as in vegetative life, but when a project dies, there is no remedy, and there I learned that players love their privacy, they love anonymity, and If there is a lot of competition in the casinos, why don't they please that public and give them what they want?



Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hamphser on December 16, 2022, 11:46:56 PM
I don't understand why people don't like KYC policy when it is for their safety, as it ensures the user's credibility. This trend must be changed.

Customers may not want to provide full details of their personal information, or they may feel uncomfortable sharing this information with a business they don't trust or don't know well. This is especially true when it comes to financial transactions, where the consequences of identity theft are much more severe. Additionally, some people may be concerned about their privacy or the security of their personal information or they may also be concerned that the information will be used in ways they don't approve. This is especially true in cases where business doesn't have a good reason for requesting personal information. In these situations, customers may feel that their rights are being violated. And I don't think this trend will change as long as there are bad players in the industry who will take advantage of people's personal information.

Many people do not want to give their KYC details because they are tired of being controlled. When I started in the crypto world, I did it with a privacy coin project that seemed to have a lot of future, but they spoiled it with many bad ideas and They treated investors badly, it's a project that died for me, which is still out there surviving as in vegetative life, but when a project dies, there is no remedy, and there I learned that players love their privacy, they love anonymity, and If there is a lot of competition in the casinos, why don't they please that public and give them what they want?


When we do speak about KYC then lots of people or all of people doesnt really like it because of these common reasons;

-They do like on being private or not known
-They dont like that they been monitored
-They dont like for those leaked information
-They dont like for their information to be sold in black market

KYC on this crypto space is highly frowned upon on which  it is really just that much prefer on seeing or dealing up with things which is fully decentralized and KYC-less
but we know that most of todays services are really that bound or subject to regulation or something in correlated.Those platforms who had been using the word web 3 are just deceiving into those
people who do mind off about total decentralization which is something that very bad behavior if you do ask me, if people find out that they are lying then they do know on whats next.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: febriyana on December 17, 2022, 03:18:48 AM
Web 3.0 until now still i don't know what is that.
The main point in Web 3.0 is decentralization. So if casino doing KYC, that is like wrong idea. Casino will know our identity.
But on other perspective, i think really hard to make casino without doing KYC.
People will be easy come to gamble and go out... casino don't have any database customer to make them come again.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Haunebu on December 17, 2022, 05:12:19 AM
I never really cared about all they hype behind Web 3.0 which is why my interest in crypto gambling sites adopting this stuff never really rose though I did check them out now and then, but didn't find any major differences.

What matters more to me when investing in these sites is how reliable they are, no KYC, low house edge, great promotions etc.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: traderethereum on December 17, 2022, 06:06:59 AM
Web 3.0 until now still i don't know what is that.
The main point in Web 3.0 is decentralization. So if casino doing KYC, that is like wrong idea. Casino will know our identity.
But on other perspective, i think really hard to make casino without doing KYC.
People will be easy come to gamble and go out... casino don't have any database customer to make them come again.
You don't need to think more about Web 3.0 and it's better to play gambling as usual.
Even though Web 3.0 will be decentralized, if the government wants to put pressure on the casinos, maybe they will still require KYC for their members because we know how much influence and power the government has in this matter.
With the demand for KYC from several casinos, we might experience it too in the future especially if KYC is implemented for all casinos.
But if casinos can really run their business without asking for KYC, it will be a real boon for their members.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: worle1bm on December 17, 2022, 07:14:11 AM
I never really cared about all they hype behind Web 3.0 which is why my interest in crypto gambling sites adopting this stuff never really rose though I did check them out now and then, but didn't find any major differences.

What matters more to me when investing in these sites is how reliable they are, no KYC, low house edge, great promotions etc.
That's the main concern for many gamblers but at this time many legit casinos have implemented KYC norms for the players and if we have to continue our gambling journey with them we must have to go through providing details but for small gamblers like us it's not too much complex.And yes promotions are the way of keeping up players interest in the casino and making profits as house have edge always.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 17, 2022, 09:39:13 PM
I never really cared about all they hype behind Web 3.0 which is why my interest in crypto gambling sites adopting this stuff never really rose though I did check them out now and then, but didn't find any major differences.

What matters more to me when investing in these sites is how reliable they are, no KYC, low house edge, great promotions etc.
The unfortunate thing still remains that several casinos claiming to the web 3.0 based are nothing but blatant lies, but on the other hand, if you find a casino that is indeed web 3.0 based, that would be extremely wonderful since web 3.0 based platforms doesn't require signing up or registration as well as asking or requesting customers to verify their account.
Web 3.0 casino games are hosted on the blockchain which also means, or should mean that even the casino owners don't have control over the games anymore.

But my question now about web 3.0 based casinos is that, since games are hosted on the blockchain and gamblers only need to connect their wallet and start playing, how does the gamblers get paid if they win.?


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: DoublerHunter on December 17, 2022, 09:56:41 PM
I never really cared about all they hype behind Web 3.0 which is why my interest in crypto gambling sites adopting this stuff never really rose though I did check them out now and then, but didn't find any major differences.

What matters more to me when investing in these sites is how reliable they are, no KYC, low house edge, great promotions etc.
That's the main concern for many gamblers but at this time many legit casinos have implemented KYC norms for the players and if we have to continue our gambling journey with them we must have to go through providing details but for small gamblers like us it's not too much complex.And yes promotions are the way of keeping up players interest in the casino and making profits as house have edge always.
^ Because as of now, regulated and KYCed gambling casino is their road to be successful casinos.
It is a part of their growing up to be regulated even if probably they know that this will hurt their users who did not want to pass KYC.
Promotions and good service are the best assets in a gambling casino, once you have these, it is impossible if you cannot attract users and stay in your gambling casino plus another factor would be a reputable one.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: safari88 on December 17, 2022, 10:27:04 PM
Casinos are more likely to tell simple white lies. I'm not looking at that myself. They can always say that things have been misinterpreted by the user or they can end up referring to the terms and conditions, which are basically binding as long as it doesn't conflict with the laws where the casino is located. And platforms and programs are always updated once in a while, I wouldn't stick too much to that.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on December 17, 2022, 11:10:41 PM
Casinos are more likely to tell simple white lies. I'm not looking at that myself. They can always say that things have been misinterpreted by the user or they can end up referring to the terms and conditions, which are basically binding as long as it doesn't conflict with the laws where the casino is located. And platforms and programs are always updated once in a while, I wouldn't stick too much to that.

Definitely some casinos where known for this kind of claims, but what they fail to realize is that lying will only reduce their level of trust they have with gamblers because everyone want to be treated as it is, there have been several cases of having issues related to KYC which used to turn a thing of surprised to most gamblers that why should that come in when they needed the most a time to perform a specific function on a casino, kyc could be as frustrating as something else whenever it is been required by a casino for user to be verified.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: BitDane on December 17, 2022, 11:36:52 PM
I never really cared about all they hype behind Web 3.0 which is why my interest in crypto gambling sites adopting this stuff never really rose though I did check them out now and then, but didn't find any major differences.

What matters more to me when investing in these sites is how reliable they are, no KYC, low house edge, great promotions etc.
The unfortunate thing still remains that several casinos claiming to the web 3.0 based are nothing but blatant lies, but on the other hand, if you find a casino that is indeed web 3.0 based, that would be extremely wonderful since web 3.0 based platforms doesn't require signing up or registration as well as asking or requesting customers to verify their account.
Web 3.0 casino games are hosted on the blockchain which also means, or should mean that even the casino owners don't have control over the games anymore.

It isn't web 3.0 (wiki just make it a confusion since they also label web3 as web 3.0 when it is clear that these two entity is different), it is web3, there had been lots of explanation on this thread that differentiate web 3.0 from web3.  It is the web3 that runs in blockchain while web 3.0 can run anywhere. 

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Web3 is distinct from Tim Berners-Lee's 1999 concept for a semantic web.[18] In 2006, Berners-Lee described the semantic web as a component of Web 3.0, which is different from the meaning of Web3 in blockchain contexts.[19]

The term "Web3" was coined by Polkadot founder and Ethereum co-founder Gavin Wood in 2014, referring to a "decentralized online ecosystem based on blockchain."[1] In 2021, the idea of Web3 gained popularity.[20] Particular interest spiked toward the end of 2021, largely due to interest from cryptocurrency enthusiasts and investments from high-profile technologists and companies.[5][6] Executives from venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz traveled to Washington, D.C., in October 2021 to lobby for the idea as a potential solution to questions about regulation of the web, with which policymakers have been grappling.[21]

But my question now about web 3.0 based casinos is that, since games are hosted on the blockchain and gamblers only need to connect their wallet and start playing, how does the gamblers get paid if they win.?

Web3 has dapps. so possibly the bet, winnings and paying is processed there.  While it is easier to understand how the process go in a platform running in web 3.0 since web 3.0 can run in centralized system so the processing is done by the centralized system where the owner has access.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: goinmerry on December 17, 2022, 11:55:28 PM
I think something related to Web 3.0 can't even attract new users on a gambling platform. It's just technology.

Gamblers are gamblers and they only care about winning and for that to happen, they will only choose a big casino that already established a reputation.

For new users or gamblers to be attracted, unique promotions and bonuses are the keys, not these web 3.0-related stuff.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: noorman0 on December 18, 2022, 01:03:53 AM
I personally don't care about the new terms web3 or web30 that casinos are bringing which at their core are only oriented towards improving the user experience in terms of managing funds and (mostly) issuing new utility tokens. In fact crypto-based casinos existed before this term and they also offer basically the same quality of service, working with the same gaming software providers.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Silberman on December 18, 2022, 01:20:25 AM
I personally don't care about the new terms web3 or web30 that casinos are bringing which at their core are only oriented towards improving the user experience in terms of managing funds and (mostly) issuing new utility tokens. In fact crypto-based casinos existed before this term and they also offer basically the same quality of service, working with the same gaming software providers.
To me it matters because if a product or service is supposedly offering something and then they do not fulfill their promise then we are talking about false advertising at best and a willing attempt to deceive their customers at worst, and none of those two options are good if you ask me and it will make me to rethink about the possibility of ever gambling at that casino again, as who in his right mind is going to deposit their money in a casino which is lying so blatantly?


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Haunebu on December 18, 2022, 04:37:52 AM
Web3 has dapps. so possibly the bet, winnings and paying is processed there.  While it is easier to understand how the process go in a platform running in web 3.0 since web 3.0 can run in centralized system so the processing is done by the centralized system where the owner has access.
Thanks for the explanation. Didn't know that Web3 and Web 3.0 were different. Basically, Web3 is always decentralised while Web 3.0 can be centralised or decentralised.

Whatever the case, gamblers focus more on other factors such as house edge, promotions, whether KYC is truly required or not etc which makes sense since very few of them care about these new technologies.

Their interest in them would rise sharply if they received some big incentives through them when compared to the competition.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 18, 2022, 05:53:38 AM
I personally don't care about the new terms web3 or web30 that casinos are bringing which at their core are only oriented towards improving the user experience in terms of managing funds and (mostly) issuing new utility tokens. In fact crypto-based casinos existed before this term and they also offer basically the same quality of service, working with the same gaming software providers.
And we can also still use the casinos we are used to and have no problems. Meanwhile, the web 3 offered by the casino is still under development and it is possible that in the near future, we will see something different from what it is now. As long as we can still use a normal casino, we don't need to get involved in using a web-based casino 3 unless we are curious about what it looks like and what the experience is like. And there must be people who are curious to try it so they can have a new experience.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: nasipadang on December 18, 2022, 09:39:50 AM
Web3 has dapps. so possibly the bet, winnings and paying is processed there.  While it is easier to understand how the process go in a platform running in web 3.0 since web 3.0 can run in centralized system so the processing is done by the centralized system where the owner has access.
Thanks for the explanation. Didn't know that Web3 and Web 3.0 were different. Basically, Web3 is always decentralised while Web 3.0 can be centralised or decentralised.

Whatever the case, gamblers focus more on other factors such as house edge, promotions, whether KYC is truly required or not etc which makes sense since very few of them care about these new technologies.

Their interest in them would rise sharply if they received some big incentives through them when compared to the competition.
This is right. As a player I actually don't care about whether it is web 3.0 or not what I am looking is the promotion, benefits, bonuses and securtiy of the website I am playing with. Most of them do ask kyc as it is what it is and you wont be depositing if you dont know that.

Some people think just because it is a Web 3.0 doesn't mean that they would not ask the players to undergo KYC.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: boyptc on December 19, 2022, 12:08:46 PM
Web3 has dapps. so possibly the bet, winnings and paying is processed there.  While it is easier to understand how the process go in a platform running in web 3.0 since web 3.0 can run in centralized system so the processing is done by the centralized system where the owner has access.
Thanks for the explanation. Didn't know that Web3 and Web 3.0 were different. Basically, Web3 is always decentralised while Web 3.0 can be centralised or decentralised.

Whatever the case, gamblers focus more on other factors such as house edge, promotions, whether KYC is truly required or not etc which makes sense since very few of them care about these new technologies.

Their interest in them would rise sharply if they received some big incentives through them when compared to the competition.
That's some addition info and knowledge for me as well, I thought that they're just the same.

These days, most gamblers are leaning to the trust on these casinos. It doesn't matter anymore if they will require kyc or not, at least this is for the majority that I've seen.

And it will mostly be ignored as you've said, if there are incentives which is usually happening through promos and some giveaways that would increase the number of their users.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Blawpaw on December 19, 2022, 06:27:22 PM
Web3 should be decentralized, but as long as Web3 projects are using the ethereum network or any other centralized network, they will be centralized. So, basically, yes you have some missunderstanding of what web3 actually is. So, they either develop their own decentralized network or develop their projects on a decentralized network or they risk becoming totally dependant on a centralized network.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: CryptoYar on December 19, 2022, 07:13:30 PM
Web3 should be decentralized, but as long as Web3 projects are using the ethereum network or any other centralized network, they will be centralized. So, basically, yes you have some missunderstanding of what web3 actually is. So, they either develop their own decentralized network or develop their projects on a decentralized network or they risk becoming totally dependant on a centralized network.
The fundamentals of Web3 are decentralization and blockchain.

Developer use blockchain for their projects but fails in decentralization. However, if they do make it, I doubt we'll be able to use it. As web3 wallets can ban us.

As the oldest web3 wallet (metamask) did to the Iranian people. Metamask BANNING every wallet associated with an Iranian IP address. (https://mobile.twitter.com/Bornosor/status/1499426454601449479?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1499426454601449479%7Ctwgr%5Ee4c645ba8a3292f0b1f78db2f84135249bda9f2e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnftnow.com%2Fnews%2Fmetamask-banning-iranian-ip-address%2F)


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hispo on December 19, 2022, 07:13:33 PM
... they risk becoming totally dependant on a centralized network.

It is not about the network itself, I think.
I believe it is about the risk/benefit ratio the casinos see in the Web 3.0 market versus operating as a classic centralized casino. I imagine it must be easier for those looking to create a profitable casino just to go for a centralized approach, getting registered under some jurisdiction (like Curasao) and slowly build their client base by paid advertisement and promotions.

For now the major benefit of web 3.0 as marketing vehicle is the attention this concept is receiving from decentralization maximalists, but that alone does not guarantee and good experience.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: noormcs5 on December 19, 2022, 07:24:33 PM
I think something related to Web 3.0 can't even attract new users on a gambling platform. It's just technology.

Gamblers are gamblers and they only care about winning and for that to happen, they will only choose a big casino that already established a reputation.

For new users or gamblers to be attracted, unique promotions and bonuses are the keys, not these web 3.0-related stuff.

Innovation is something that is always liked by the humans. If the new casino are adopting Web3 technology in a real sense, then the old ones need to transform them otherwise they will be left behind and eventually will be outdated and this means out of business.


Web3 should be decentralized, but as long as Web3 projects are using the ethereum network or any other centralized network, they will be centralized. So, basically, yes you have some missunderstanding of what web3 actually is. So, they either develop their own decentralized network or develop their projects on a decentralized network or they risk becoming totally dependant on a centralized network.

I don't think we have a web3 based casino that is 100% decentralized. However, there may be many casinos that may use the name of "Web 3" only to promote the casino as these days the hype of Web3 is on the rise. If the casino is web3, well & good but don't falsely claim the casino to be Web 3 compatible.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: darkangel11 on December 19, 2022, 08:05:52 PM
Most crypto projects are based on hype and completely overvalued. That's at least 99% of altcoins are, ICOs were, IPOs were, stable coins are...
Web3 just like all the things that facebook or meta as they're trying to rebrand themselves is doing is overvalued. It may achieve something or not. Google glass was a good example of an overhyped flop.
I feel that the only thing in the space that isn't pure hype right now is bitcoin. Bitcoin and things based on it are at this point largely undervalued.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hamphser on December 19, 2022, 08:22:08 PM
Most crypto projects are based on hype and completely overvalued. That's at least 99% of altcoins are, ICOs were, IPOs were, stable coins are...
Web3 just like all the things that facebook or meta as they're trying to rebrand themselves is doing is overvalued. It may achieve something or not. Google glass was a good example of an overhyped flop.
I feel that the only thing in the space that isn't pure hype right now is bitcoin. Bitcoin and things based on it are at this point largely undervalued.
Would really be that impossible that they wont really be trying out to make some use of the current hype as of this day which these owners might neither be using that or would remain completely to be honest.

We know that not all owners would really be that too mindful on how they would gonna introduce their business.Some might really be that focusing into the current trend and making use of it
and some would really be sticking into those traditional ways of introducing as long they arent really deceiving then that whats matter the most.

Attracting users doesnt really need for it to be deceiving because just like the rest been saying on which if people do find out the real or truth
then it would really be making out that kind of bad impression.This is why when building and introducing a business then you should really be that mindful in regard to that.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: minime0105 on December 19, 2022, 08:27:22 PM
Most crypto projects are based on hype and completely overvalued. That's at least 99% of altcoins are, ICOs were, IPOs were, stable coins are...
Web3 just like all the things that facebook or meta as they're trying to rebrand themselves is doing is overvalued. It may achieve something or not. Google glass was a good example of an overhyped flop.
I feel that the only thing in the space that isn't pure hype right now is bitcoin. Bitcoin and things based on it are at this point largely undervalued.
We all know that majority of the projects are hype projects but i want us to know that, even though it's a hype projects it's something that i believe that without consciousness or proper investigation of the project you might end in a wrong function.
So therefore we contribute almost what is the Genesis of what leads us into wrong function through our findings.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: blockman on December 19, 2022, 08:58:05 PM
We all know that majority of the projects are hype projects but i want us to know that, even though it's a hype projects it's something that i believe that without consciousness or proper investigation of the project you might end in a wrong function.
So therefore we contribute almost what is the Genesis of what leads us into wrong function through our findings.
There's one thing for most projects, and they're the investments and putting it together with casinos. Those buzz words are intriguing so they might catch some interest for its specific targets, the gamblers.
But yeah, it's not that really needed at all, and just take it from being the typical casino that we used to know that's been operating and proved themselves to their existing customers that there's no need for some riding with hype and buzzy words.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Ebede on December 19, 2022, 09:39:32 PM
Casinos are more likely to tell simple white lies. I'm not looking at that myself. They can always say that things have been misinterpreted by the user or they can end up referring to the terms and conditions, which are basically binding as long as it doesn't conflict with the laws where the casino is located. And platforms and programs are always updated once in a while, I wouldn't stick too much to that.

Definitely some casinos where known for this kind of claims, but what they fail to realize is that lying will only reduce their level of trust they have with gamblers because everyone want to be treated as it is, there have been several cases of having issues related to KYC which used to turn a thing of surprised to most gamblers that why should that come in when they needed the most a time to perform a specific function on a casino, kyc could be as frustrating as something else whenever it is been required by a casino for user to be verified.
In a kyc verification I know right where that some casino platform or a gamblers knows exactly what is obtainable cuz I didn't that girl I see because all I see is for the protection or both player and the the platform is but some casino platforms, have to do things that is nice one concerning their kyc verification because they know the importance of kyc


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: crzy on December 19, 2022, 09:54:26 PM
We all know that majority of the projects are hype projects but i want us to know that, even though it's a hype projects it's something that i believe that without consciousness or proper investigation of the project you might end in a wrong function.
So therefore we contribute almost what is the Genesis of what leads us into wrong function through our findings.
There's one thing for most projects, and they're the investments and putting it together with casinos. Those buzz words are intriguing so they might catch some interest for its specific targets, the gamblers.
But yeah, it's not that really needed at all, and just take it from being the typical casino that we used to know that's been operating and proved themselves to their existing customers that there's no need for some riding with hype and buzzy words.
If you are going to gamble because of the hype only then it will be more risky for you and you might not enjoy playing since you gamble because of a wrong purpose. If the project can’t tell the truth at first, I’m sure they are also hiding something and that can affect their reputation for being not so fair and can’t trusted at all, the site should not mislead their gamblers if they intentions are clean.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: bitcampaign on December 19, 2022, 10:15:34 PM
I don't think we have a web3 based casino that is 100% decentralized. However, there may be many casinos that may use the name of "Web 3" only to promote the casino as these days the hype of Web3 is on the rise. If the casino is web3, well & good but don't falsely claim the casino to be Web 3 compatible.
but there are also several web3 casinos that have just been released and they are truly decentralized where every bet we make is related to a smart contract and doesn't ask us to fill in an email address let alone fill in KYC, but many big casinos add this web3 feature but don't understand what it's about decentralization


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Newlifebtc on December 19, 2022, 10:45:22 PM
I don't think we have a web3 based casino that is 100% decentralized. However, there may be many casinos that may use the name of "Web 3" only to promote the casino as these days the hype of Web3 is on the rise. If the casino is web3, well & good but don't falsely claim the casino to be Web 3 compatible.
but there are also several web3 casinos that have just been released and they are truly decentralized where every bet we make is related to a smart contract and doesn't ask us to fill in an email address let alone fill in KYC, but many big casinos add this web3 feature but don't understand what it's about decentralization
From my own perspective I am feeling that all the casino are decentralized casino none of them is centralised and if we should do count for the centralised one I believe that it will be feel why when we talk of decentralized it will be meaning so talking of kyc kyc is something that is necessary any platform of casino except to the situation we have I it is not legalised a casino platform


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: n0ne on December 19, 2022, 11:59:16 PM
Completely misleading with a new concept. Decentralised functioning is effective, but when the same is being applied everywhere the importance gets ruined in a fake mechanism. With casinos it is good to keep things advanced, for the same it isn't necessary to keep on transition of the process to increase the competence. Same time there are platforms that have perfectly made things over web3 as well as using the term just to show it an advanced one. So, it is all about the hype.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: kotajikikox on December 20, 2022, 01:34:04 AM
I don't think we have a web3 based casino that is 100% decentralized. However, there may be many casinos that may use the name of "Web 3" only to promote the casino as these days the hype of Web3 is on the rise. If the casino is web3, well & good but don't falsely claim the casino to be Web 3 compatible.
but there are also several web3 casinos that have just been released and they are truly decentralized where every bet we make is related to a smart contract and doesn't ask us to fill in an email address let alone fill in KYC, but many big casinos add this web3 feature but don't understand what it's about decentralization
since you've mentioned this would you mind sending some of those casino here for us to check out? I believe that this will clear many question and post here regarding the capacity of casino to have Decentralized function and specially regarding web3 details?
though there are many site still does not ask for KYC but sometimes they do when have certain reasons to ask for.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: rodskee on December 20, 2022, 02:58:28 AM
Web 3.0 until now still i don't know what is that.
The main point in Web 3.0 is decentralization. So if casino doing KYC, that is like wrong idea. Casino will know our identity.
But on other perspective, i think really hard to make casino without doing KYC.
People will be easy come to gamble and go out... casino don't have any database customer to make them come again.
I can feel you mate , and I was wondering why there are many gambling site now that tries to lure gamblers with their lies , Hope that in the future or at least sooner this will be cleared and players will not fall into their traps .

and about KYC ? this is coming in every casino , maybe not this fast but sooner I believe.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on December 20, 2022, 03:50:14 AM
Most crypto projects are based on hype and completely overvalued. That's at least 99% of altcoins are, ICOs were, IPOs were, stable coins are...
Web3 just like all the things that facebook or meta as they're trying to rebrand themselves is doing is overvalued. It may achieve something or not. Google glass was a good example of an overhyped flop.
I feel that the only thing in the space that isn't pure hype right now is bitcoin. Bitcoin and things based on it are at this point largely undervalued.

  -  I agree with what you said mate, maybe I just have something to add to what you already said. Regarding the hype you mentioned, in my opinion, it cannot be lost, because the word "HYPE" is part of the marketing scheme if it is not in any business in the industry like this, because it has a big contribution, to be honest.

Even now, it has been used, especially in the bonuses that are the trick of crypto gambling that we are currently seeing. All that is needed is to be critical and careful about what we enter anyway, and this is the important thing, right?


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Mauser on December 20, 2022, 07:50:48 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

It's true that it sounds a bit counterintuitive to have blockchain based, decentralised casinos that require us to complete a KYC process. We have learned over the years to stay as anonymous as possible in the internet and don't real too many personal information. The number of scammer and phishing websites increased a lot in the last 5 years, this could also be linked to the increase in crypto prices which makes it much easier to shift around stolen money. The main thing for casinos to require KYC is to prevent money laundering in larger scales to not attract the attention of the government. If a lot of criminals would be using online casino to try and launder their money then the government could step in and ban gambling all together. Therefore some form of regulation is necessary to show the good will of the gambling industry. I noticed that KYC is mostly required when you are dealing in large amounts of money, some casinos only require additional information when withdrawing more than 1,500 - 2,500 USD, which seems like a good compromise to me.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: klidex on December 20, 2022, 08:51:31 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

It's true that it sounds a bit counterintuitive to have blockchain based, decentralised casinos that require us to complete a KYC process. We have learned over the years to stay as anonymous as possible in the internet and don't real too many personal information. The number of scammer and phishing websites increased a lot in the last 5 years, this could also be linked to the increase in crypto prices which makes it much easier to shift around stolen money. The main thing for casinos to require KYC is to prevent money laundering in larger scales to not attract the attention of the government. If a lot of criminals would be using online casino to try and launder their money then the government could step in and ban gambling all together. Therefore some form of regulation is necessary to show the good will of the gambling industry. I noticed that KYC is mostly required when you are dealing in large amounts of money, some casinos only require additional information when withdrawing more than 1,500 - 2,500 USD, which seems like a good compromise to me.
I agree with your point of view, It's true that in recent years there have been several cases of laundering stolen money through online casinos or crypto assets.
So don't be surprised if casino sites require conditions to make KYC.
Parties from the casino also do not want to be involved and be harmed in any form by the laundering of stolen money carried out by irresponsible persons.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Jawhead999 on December 20, 2022, 01:57:31 PM
I agree with your point of view, It's true that in recent years there have been several cases of laundering stolen money through online casinos or crypto assets.
So don't be surprised if casino sites require conditions to make KYC.
Parties from the casino also do not want to be involved and be harmed in any form by the laundering of stolen money carried out by irresponsible persons.
And the criminal is submitted someone KYC that he bought from a person who sold his identity since he's poor. Does casino asking KYC will prevent from money laundering? nope, does KYC make the criminal harder to do bad thing? yes. This mean asking KYC is useless if the criminal know how to escape from it. Now we have blockchain analysis who can track someone coins, but they still can't catch those criminals since they're more clever.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: danadc on December 20, 2022, 05:51:05 PM
I don't think we have a web3 based casino that is 100% decentralized. However, there may be many casinos that may use the name of "Web 3" only to promote the casino as these days the hype of Web3 is on the rise. If the casino is web3, well & good but don't falsely claim the casino to be Web 3 compatible.
but there are also several web3 casinos that have just been released and they are truly decentralized where every bet we make is related to a smart contract and doesn't ask us to fill in an email address let alone fill in KYC, but many big casinos add this web3 feature but don't understand what it's about decentralization
But if we have several casinos with web3 it is something that should make a difference, I have been looking at some threads of the best casinos in the forum and there is none that is this web3 that is outstanding, not even the ones that make casino reviews do it. they name, I think that these things, as new things are coming out, have not given them much importance because there are not things that attract attention, players prefer the most reputable and trustworthy casinos, and that is what gives them an advantage over the Other casnios, the best ones can come out with web3 but trust and reputation is what they have to build the most.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 20, 2022, 06:01:04 PM
I don't think we have a web3 based casino that is 100% decentralized. However, there may be many casinos that may use the name of "Web 3" only to promote the casino as these days the hype of Web3 is on the rise. If the casino is web3, well & good but don't falsely claim the casino to be Web 3 compatible.
but there are also several web3 casinos that have just been released and they are truly decentralized where every bet we make is related to a smart contract and doesn't ask us to fill in an email address let alone fill in KYC, but many big casinos add this web3 feature but don't understand what it's about decentralization
But if we have several casinos with web3 it is something that should make a difference, I have been looking at some threads of the best casinos in the forum and there is none that is this web3 that is outstanding, not even the ones that make casino reviews do it. they name, I think that these things, as new things are coming out, have not given them much importance because there are not things that attract attention, players prefer the most reputable and trustworthy casinos, and that is what gives them an advantage over the Other casnios, the best ones can come out with web3 but trust and reputation is what they have to build the most.

I totally agree with you, web 3 or no web 3, what gamblers are really after is the casino they can trust to play on without issues.

Though I think that the reason why it seems some (for now) small number of persons are interested in web 3 casino is because they are likely to be completely Decentralized and decentralized services don't require customers to pass kyc verification, since both the system and the games are built on and runs on the blockchain, even the developers have no access to users account.

But each time I think of the above, my question always is, How does the winners get paid from a decentralized casino as the above?

Will the developers/casino owners build a smart contract and top up the wallet that will pay gamblers who win, what if the funds in this wallet runs out and the devs/casino owners are yet to top it up?


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Emitdama on December 20, 2022, 07:25:32 PM
I agree with your point of view, It's true that in recent years there have been several cases of laundering stolen money through online casinos or crypto assets.
So don't be surprised if casino sites require conditions to make KYC.
Parties from the casino also do not want to be involved and be harmed in any form by the laundering of stolen money carried out by irresponsible persons.
And the criminal is submitted someone KYC that he bought from a person who sold his identity since he's poor. Does casino asking KYC will prevent from money laundering? nope, does KYC make the criminal harder to do bad thing? yes. This mean asking KYC is useless if the criminal know how to escape from it. Now we have blockchain analysis who can track someone coins, but they still can't catch those criminals since they're more clever.
I think many of those poor people are only a victim and they don't know that their identities are going to be used for illegal transactions. Better if we will spread information about these matters so that cases like this are going to be prevented in the future. If KYC makes the criminal struggle then KYC is not totally useless.

There are ways for us to check the activity of the wallet but there is no way to see their full information such as their full name, address and contact details. Other than that, criminals can also use a mixing service to further conceal themselves from the authorities but fortunately, some of them are still being caught out.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Dunamisx on December 20, 2022, 07:48:10 PM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Silberman on December 21, 2022, 02:40:01 AM
I don't think we have a web3 based casino that is 100% decentralized. However, there may be many casinos that may use the name of "Web 3" only to promote the casino as these days the hype of Web3 is on the rise. If the casino is web3, well & good but don't falsely claim the casino to be Web 3 compatible.
but there are also several web3 casinos that have just been released and they are truly decentralized where every bet we make is related to a smart contract and doesn't ask us to fill in an email address let alone fill in KYC, but many big casinos add this web3 feature but don't understand what it's about decentralization
But if we have several casinos with web3 it is something that should make a difference, I have been looking at some threads of the best casinos in the forum and there is none that is this web3 that is outstanding, not even the ones that make casino reviews do it. they name, I think that these things, as new things are coming out, have not given them much importance because there are not things that attract attention, players prefer the most reputable and trustworthy casinos, and that is what gives them an advantage over the Other casnios, the best ones can come out with web3 but trust and reputation is what they have to build the most.

When the gambling industry first started in this market casinos began from zero and they had to gain reputation and trust like any other business, however a new casino which is trying to implement web3 features now will find themselves facing huge competition that was not there at the beginning of this market, so while no KYC may attract some people, their reputation is still nonexistent and if we add that casinos are lying about this then the less people are going to care about those casinos, which is why it is so important to stop that false publicity as if this continues soon enough no one will care about web3 casinos, which would be a shame as it seems a step on the right direction for this market.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 21, 2022, 04:56:50 AM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
It's fine if casinos like that keep doing it to attract gamblers but it won't last because gamblers will surely know casinos that really want to attract lots of gamblers to their place using good and right ways. Those simple lies and tricks will not be able to trick gamblers because someone will expose the lie so that it becomes viral in public and finally, their customers leave the casino like that. Casinos that really work hard to realize their targets will get the results they want because they don't use bad ways of getting customers.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Reatim on December 21, 2022, 05:15:14 AM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
It's fine if casinos like that keep doing it to attract gamblers but it won't last because gamblers will surely know casinos that really want to attract lots of gamblers to their place using good and right ways. Those simple lies and tricks will not be able to trick gamblers because someone will expose the lie so that it becomes viral in public and finally, their customers leave the casino like that. Casinos that really work hard to realize their targets will get the results they want because they don't use bad ways of getting customers.
this will reveal their true intention and attitude and will surely hated by gamblers   because in this business ? the most important thing is trust because this is about money so the more you lie to the players is the more they will lead to taking out their money and activities to their site.



Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Chato1977 on December 21, 2022, 05:43:36 AM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
It's fine if casinos like that keep doing it to attract gamblers but it won't last because gamblers will surely know casinos that really want to attract lots of gamblers to their place using good and right ways. Those simple lies and tricks will not be able to trick gamblers because someone will expose the lie so that it becomes viral in public and finally, their customers leave the casino like that. Casinos that really work hard to realize their targets will get the results they want because they don't use bad ways of getting customers.
this will reveal their true intention and attitude and will surely hated by gamblers   because in this business ? the most important thing is trust because this is about money so the more you lie to the players is the more they will lead to taking out their money and activities to their site.


and maybe it is time for them to be serious and offer only what is true and better , not just riding what is popular and ending up players being fooled.

I hate Gambling site that does not tell the truth so better to look for better one than those liar .


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Pierre 2 on December 21, 2022, 06:15:54 AM
Well, as others explained there are many companies using fake advertisements to sell their products. Its not issue only at cryptocurrency markets, but all around. People randomly use web3, nft, metaverse words around. Like completely spilling them out to pull traffic.
I also agree with idea saying companies who trick their customers are not gonna last long. I personally hate when I am tricked and completely abandon it. Most people do something similar.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: BlackRexuz on December 21, 2022, 06:42:54 AM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
It's fine if casinos like that keep doing it to attract gamblers but it won't last because gamblers will surely know casinos that really want to attract lots of gamblers to their place using good and right ways. Those simple lies and tricks will not be able to trick gamblers because someone will expose the lie so that it becomes viral in public and finally, their customers leave the casino like that. Casinos that really work hard to realize their targets will get the results they want because they don't use bad ways of getting customers.

We can see and judge casinos that respect their users even though the user is only someone who has a little capital, but they can respect him and always serve him without looking at their full content, and again about the problem of convenience in gambling, of course there are some casinos that provide comfort, of course and  there are also those who ignore it, when it comes to the problem of lying in games on casino sites, maybe everyone can judge for themselves, with their experience in several big casinos, no matter how small the mistakes made by gambling sites, if done as often as possible then it will smell rotten, then  it all goes back to how the site maintains the comfort of its users, and how they maintain the big name of the site, if in everyone's eyes the site has popularity with a good record then they will attract some of its users and will say with that person, that this gambling site is very good  to play there, if the gambling site is bad then experienced people will tell other members not to play there, so in conclusion I am very sure that everyone can judge a casino site that is good or bad..


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 21, 2022, 10:21:22 AM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
It's fine if casinos like that keep doing it to attract gamblers but it won't last because gamblers will surely know casinos that really want to attract lots of gamblers to their place using good and right ways. Those simple lies and tricks will not be able to trick gamblers because someone will expose the lie so that it becomes viral in public and finally, their customers leave the casino like that. Casinos that really work hard to realize their targets will get the results they want because they don't use bad ways of getting customers.
this will reveal their true intention and attitude and will surely hated by gamblers   because in this business ? the most important thing is trust because this is about money so the more you lie to the players is the more they will lead to taking out their money and activities to their site.


and maybe it is time for them to be serious and offer only what is true and better , not just riding what is popular and ending up players being fooled.

I hate Gambling site that does not tell the truth so better to look for better one than those liar .
Fairness is key in the business, but how many gambling sites would you see that are fair? This is why one should be wary of new gambling sites unless such is recommended by a trusted person, and the new users might want to try it out with a very little amount of money.

You can't avoid it, lies are everywhere when it comes to gambling, and if you are not careful, they would swindle you of your money in a legal way. That's why we should be careful of bonuses and incentives, they are mostly the avenue some gambling sites, particularly the new ones swindle people. Mind you, they might not lie, it's people that are not sensitive to their conditions of offers.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Dunamisx on December 21, 2022, 08:02:38 PM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
It's fine if casinos like that keep doing it to attract gamblers but it won't last because gamblers will surely know casinos that really want to attract lots of gamblers to their place using good and right ways. Those simple lies and tricks will not be able to trick gamblers because someone will expose the lie so that it becomes viral in public and finally, their customers leave the casino like that. Casinos that really work hard to realize their targets will get the results they want because they don't use bad ways of getting customers.
this will reveal their true intention and attitude and will surely hated by gamblers   because in this business ? the most important thing is trust because this is about money so the more you lie to the players is the more they will lead to taking out their money and activities to their site.

You guys were all right and i understand the point you're bringing in here, trust is important because it's what laid the kind of foundation for your reputation, why do some casino can't be true in their dealings and yet they expect this loyalty from gambler to always choose them as priority over others, some people launching attacked aren't to be blamed sometimes because they would have also encounters lots of difficulties from the the casinos before they would have concluded on a revenge because it's not everybody you can cheat and do away with.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hamphser on December 21, 2022, 08:40:39 PM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
It's fine if casinos like that keep doing it to attract gamblers but it won't last because gamblers will surely know casinos that really want to attract lots of gamblers to their place using good and right ways. Those simple lies and tricks will not be able to trick gamblers because someone will expose the lie so that it becomes viral in public and finally, their customers leave the casino like that. Casinos that really work hard to realize their targets will get the results they want because they don't use bad ways of getting customers.
this will reveal their true intention and attitude and will surely hated by gamblers   because in this business ? the most important thing is trust because this is about money so the more you lie to the players is the more they will lead to taking out their money and activities to their site.

You guys were all right and i understand the point you're bringing in here, trust is important because it's what laid the kind of foundation for your reputation, why do some casino can't be true in their dealings and yet they expect this loyalty from gambler to always choose them as priority over others, some people launching attacked aren't to be blamed sometimes because they would have also encounters lots of difficulties from the the casinos before they would have concluded on a revenge because it's not everybody you can cheat and do away with.
When you are just starting off with your business and you do show up some false claims or information then that would really make you untrustworthy which is something that the community doesnt really like about.They would really be that seeing that your platform was a web3 on what you had claimed but turns out to be not, then it would really be creating that kind of impression which would be leading up on having
lost of interest just because people do really able to feel and see that they've been deceived which is something not really a good feeling on any aspects of life.This is why as a business then you should really be
honest and transparent as possible because if someone do knows the truth and ending up on being caught lying then pretty sure it would really be putting up a stain on your business which it isnt really good
for long term or totally disastrous.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 22, 2022, 04:16:30 AM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
It's fine if casinos like that keep doing it to attract gamblers but it won't last because gamblers will surely know casinos that really want to attract lots of gamblers to their place using good and right ways. Those simple lies and tricks will not be able to trick gamblers because someone will expose the lie so that it becomes viral in public and finally, their customers leave the casino like that. Casinos that really work hard to realize their targets will get the results they want because they don't use bad ways of getting customers.
this will reveal their true intention and attitude and will surely hated by gamblers   because in this business ? the most important thing is trust because this is about money so the more you lie to the players is the more they will lead to taking out their money and activities to their site.
We will know their intentions and attitudes in the end because they will all be pointed out accidentally. And if that's the case, we have to get away from their place with the money we have before everything changes and they will deceive us. That is why we must be very careful with such casinos because we are new to their place and don't know their true intentions.

There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
It's fine if casinos like that keep doing it to attract gamblers but it won't last because gamblers will surely know casinos that really want to attract lots of gamblers to their place using good and right ways. Those simple lies and tricks will not be able to trick gamblers because someone will expose the lie so that it becomes viral in public and finally, their customers leave the casino like that. Casinos that really work hard to realize their targets will get the results they want because they don't use bad ways of getting customers.

We can see and judge casinos that respect their users even though the user is only someone who has a little capital, but they can respect him and always serve him without looking at their full content, and again about the problem of convenience in gambling, of course there are some casinos that provide comfort, of course and  there are also those who ignore it, when it comes to the problem of lying in games on casino sites, maybe everyone can judge for themselves, with their experience in several big casinos, no matter how small the mistakes made by gambling sites, if done as often as possible then it will smell rotten, then  it all goes back to how the site maintains the comfort of its users, and how they maintain the big name of the site, if in everyone's eyes the site has popularity with a good record then they will attract some of its users and will say with that person, that this gambling site is very good  to play there, if the gambling site is bad then experienced people will tell other members not to play there, so in conclusion I am very sure that everyone can judge a casino site that is good or bad..
A casino with a good reputation and is trusted will try to maintain its reputation and provide comfort for its users and all of its members and will not be unfair to them. We have seen this being given to a trusted casino, so many of us choose to keep playing at the casino because we have found comfort in playing gambling. But some casinos cannot maintain and provide this to their members but. They instead provide cases of delays in the withdrawal process for various reasons. And this is what makes casinos like that abandoned by gamblers because they don't find comfort playing gambling there.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Bushdark on December 22, 2022, 01:33:45 PM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
Many of these casinos that tend to be switching to web3.0 are just doing that to mislead gamblers that do not know their right from left. There main motive is to attract more custo6to there casinos and they don't care about the wrong impressiom they are passing especially for gamblers to know what web3.0 is all about. I have always seen similar casinos with exchanges that claim to be migrating to web3.0 when they obviously ask for KYC which do not ought to be.

The quest for competition had been the order of the day and many investors and CEOs had been trying to gain momentum especially when it comes to having more customers on there platform. I just hope all these errors will change with time because right now people are not more lazy again since they can be prone to severe loses if care is not taken.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Dunamisx on December 22, 2022, 05:47:46 PM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
Many of these casinos that tend to be switching to web3.0 are just doing that to mislead gamblers that do not know their right from left. There main motive is to attract more custo6to there casinos and they don't care about the wrong impressiom they are passing especially for gamblers to know what web3.0 is all about. I have always seen similar casinos with exchanges that claim to be migrating to web3.0 when they obviously ask for KYC which do not ought to be.

The quest for competition had been the order of the day and many investors and CEOs had been trying to gain momentum especially when it comes to having more customers on there platform. I just hope all these errors will change with time because right now people are not more lazy again since they can be prone to severe loses if care is not taken.

Quite good, we have alot of competition in the market, alot of newly established casinos were being introduced and are getting alot of new gamblers having their test, they don't just come into operations but they have sat down to discover what will pull a drive of gamblers to their casinos and they got the solution to it, they understand that any newly established casino may not be after profit but what they can offer and deliver for gamblers to enjoy, so they therefore build a credible reputation to quickens their growth fast and then advertise themselves, if they maintain this good deeds and continue with nthe kind of trust gamblers have on them, they will continue to flourish but if they fail along the way, it tarnish their whole reputation on gambler and it will take a little time before they began to realize what they are loosing already.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Shamm on December 22, 2022, 08:52:20 PM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
Many of these casinos that tend to be switching to web3.0 are just doing that to mislead gamblers that do not know their right from left. There main motive is to attract more custo6to there casinos and they don't care about the wrong impressiom they are passing especially for gamblers to know what web3.0 is all about. I have always seen similar casinos with exchanges that claim to be migrating to web3.0 when they obviously ask for KYC which do not ought to be.

The quest for competition had been the order of the day and many investors and CEOs had been trying to gain momentum especially when it comes to having more customers on there platform. I just hope all these errors will change with time because right now people are not more lazy again since they can be prone to severe loses if care is not taken.

Quite good, we have alot of competition in the market, alot of newly established casinos were being introduced and are getting alot of new gamblers having their test, they don't just come into operations but they have sat down to discover what will pull a drive of gamblers to their casinos and they got the solution to it, they understand that any newly established casino may not be after profit but what they can offer and deliver for gamblers to enjoy, so they therefore build a credible reputation to quickens their growth fast and then advertise themselves, if they maintain this good deeds and continue with nthe kind of trust gamblers have on them, they will continue to flourish but if they fail along the way, it tarnish their whole reputation on the gambler and it will take a little time before they began to realize what they are losing already.

Quite true once a new casino has been launched then the owner will not ai for a big profit from the gamblers. what you said above is true they must build their reputation first before they aim for a profit cause If they are going to launch a new casino they need to sacrifice which is very important to catch the attention of the gambler. They need to handle their customer rights and do their best to run their transaction fast and smoothly as this is the only thing that a gambler want in casino.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: arwin100 on December 22, 2022, 10:27:37 PM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
Many of these casinos that tend to be switching to web3.0 are just doing that to mislead gamblers that do not know their right from left. There main motive is to attract more custo6to there casinos and they don't care about the wrong impressiom they are passing especially for gamblers to know what web3.0 is all about. I have always seen similar casinos with exchanges that claim to be migrating to web3.0 when they obviously ask for KYC which do not ought to be.

The quest for competition had been the order of the day and many investors and CEOs had been trying to gain momentum especially when it comes to having more customers on there platform. I just hope all these errors will change with time because right now people are not more lazy again since they can be prone to severe loses if care is not taken.

Quite good, we have alot of competition in the market, alot of newly established casinos were being introduced and are getting alot of new gamblers having their test, they don't just come into operations but they have sat down to discover what will pull a drive of gamblers to their casinos and they got the solution to it, they understand that any newly established casino may not be after profit but what they can offer and deliver for gamblers to enjoy, so they therefore build a credible reputation to quickens their growth fast and then advertise themselves, if they maintain this good deeds and continue with nthe kind of trust gamblers have on them, they will continue to flourish but if they fail along the way, it tarnish their whole reputation on the gambler and it will take a little time before they began to realize what they are losing already.

Quite true once a new casino has been launched then the owner will not ai for a big profit from the gamblers. what you said above is true they must build their reputation first before they aim for a profit cause If they are going to launch a new casino they need to sacrifice which is very important to catch the attention of the gambler. They need to handle their customer rights and do their best to run their transaction fast and smoothly as this is the only thing that a gambler want in casino.

New costumer doesn't want to see an issue will exist to a new casino since this might be their red flag to avoid this casino so to get good reputation as well as good impression they must perform very well and make those transaction smooth for their costumer to see that they are really dealing with good casino also always do automate the withdrawals and never make it manually happen because many will doubt about it since we might think that they are taking controls and might will not release some of it in future.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Lanatsa on December 22, 2022, 10:52:17 PM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
Many of these casinos that tend to be switching to web3.0 are just doing that to mislead gamblers that do not know their right from left. There main motive is to attract more custo6to there casinos and they don't care about the wrong impressiom they are passing especially for gamblers to know what web3.0 is all about. I have always seen similar casinos with exchanges that claim to be migrating to web3.0 when they obviously ask for KYC which do not ought to be.

The quest for competition had been the order of the day and many investors and CEOs had been trying to gain momentum especially when it comes to having more customers on there platform. I just hope all these errors will change with time because right now people are not more lazy again since they can be prone to severe loses if care is not taken.

Quite good, we have alot of competition in the market, alot of newly established casinos were being introduced and are getting alot of new gamblers having their test, they don't just come into operations but they have sat down to discover what will pull a drive of gamblers to their casinos and they got the solution to it, they understand that any newly established casino may not be after profit but what they can offer and deliver for gamblers to enjoy, so they therefore build a credible reputation to quickens their growth fast and then advertise themselves, if they maintain this good deeds and continue with nthe kind of trust gamblers have on them, they will continue to flourish but if they fail along the way, it tarnish their whole reputation on the gambler and it will take a little time before they began to realize what they are losing already.

Quite true once a new casino has been launched then the owner will not ai for a big profit from the gamblers. what you said above is true they must build their reputation first before they aim for a profit cause If they are going to launch a new casino they need to sacrifice which is very important to catch the attention of the gambler. They need to handle their customer rights and do their best to run their transaction fast and smoothly as this is the only thing that a gambler want in casino.

New costumer doesn't want to see an issue will exist to a new casino since this might be their red flag to avoid this casino so to get good reputation as well as good impression they must perform very well and make those transaction smooth for their costumer to see that they are really dealing with good casino also always do automate the withdrawals and never make it manually happen because many will doubt about it since we might think that they are taking controls and might will not release some of it in future.
Directly to be a red flag on which if ever someone do see that there's some complaints or having some trust issue then this would automatically give out that negative impression which is something a very bad

thing for a business specially if its really that starting up.When you are just new then it would really be just right on saying up everything or simply being honest.Trying out to claim something which isnt true

and on the time that someone will able to find out the truth then they could easily bust you off into those things you had lied, ending up that the community will really be
making those after words which would really be criticizing on what you have done.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: _act_ on December 23, 2022, 11:21:01 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.
Do not let us deceive ourselves and do not let those developers and sites to deceive us, the initial plan was to make web 3.0 to be decentralized, I expect it to be like how Filecoin or those BitTorrent blockchain are used to store files on computer, but it was not and yet it is not.

A casino with a good reputation and is trusted will try to maintain its reputation and provide comfort for its users and all of its members and will not be unfair to them. We have seen this being given to a trusted casino, so many of us choose to keep playing at the casino because we have found comfort in playing gambling. But some casinos cannot maintain and provide this to their members but. They instead provide cases of delays in the withdrawal process for various reasons. And this is what makes casinos like that abandoned by gamblers because they don't find comfort playing gambling there.
Slow withdrawal process would be one of the reasons gamblers can leave a casino, a better one can be gone for. That has been the reason I left fiat casino because of the slow withdrawal process. I have used like two that take weeks, some can take days, I used some local ones that that 24 hours, but crypto casinos take lesser time to process withdrawal, which is the reason I have moved entirely to crypto casino.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: piebeyb on December 23, 2022, 01:00:42 PM
Well, as others explained there are many companies using fake advertisements to sell their products. Its not issue only at cryptocurrency markets, but all around. People randomly use web3, nft, metaverse words around. Like completely spilling them out to pull traffic.
I also agree with idea saying companies who trick their customers are not gonna last long. I personally hate when I am tricked and completely abandon it. Most people do something similar.
mostly they use clickbait which is used to make visitors feel curious and try something new and then attract visitors to enter into it but visitors don't really find what the company is promoting like web3 or others even they don't really understand what is being promoted


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: noormcs5 on December 23, 2022, 01:15:33 PM
Well, as others explained there are many companies using fake advertisements to sell their products. Its not issue only at cryptocurrency markets, but all around. People randomly use web3, nft, metaverse words around. Like completely spilling them out to pull traffic.
I also agree with idea saying companies who trick their customers are not gonna last long. I personally hate when I am tricked and completely abandon it. Most people do something similar.
mostly they use clickbait which is used to make visitors feel curious and try something new and then attract visitors to enter into it but visitors don't really find what the company is promoting like web3 or others even they don't really understand what is being promoted

There are two types of fake promotions, one is like gambling casinos offer something in promotions but in reality, they do not give that bonus or free money. With this type of fake promotion, usually, the gambling site can fool the gambler once to deposit but they can't fool the gambler continuously with this fake narrative.

Second, type of attraction is to use the trending words like web 3.0 or NFT games which are ordinary gambling games but given a fancy name to fool the gamblers. As these words are trending, gamblers get excited about hearing such things from the casinos.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Shamm on December 23, 2022, 03:06:20 PM
There's no expectations a gambler could have other than having an interesting experience in using a particular casino of choice, but we have found in so many of these casinos not to be upto required standard and not only that, but they give wrong impression on what they won't accomplished for gamblers to enjoy in their casinos, which are obviously plain lies and tricks to generate traffic of gamblers to their sites, we are expected to take a good research and be rest assured on the kind of casino we use and their level of reputation to public acceptance because some are also fragments of scam in disguise since they can say what they wouldn't do.
Many of these casinos that tend to be switching to web3.0 are just doing that to mislead gamblers that do not know their right from left. There main motive is to attract more custo6to there casinos and they don't care about the wrong impressiom they are passing especially for gamblers to know what web3.0 is all about. I have always seen similar casinos with exchanges that claim to be migrating to web3.0 when they obviously ask for KYC which do not ought to be.

The quest for competition had been the order of the day and many investors and CEOs had been trying to gain momentum especially when it comes to having more customers on there platform. I just hope all these errors will change with time because right now people are not more lazy again since they can be prone to severe loses if care is not taken.

Quite good, we have alot of competition in the market, alot of newly established casinos were being introduced and are getting alot of new gamblers having their test, they don't just come into operations but they have sat down to discover what will pull a drive of gamblers to their casinos and they got the solution to it, they understand that any newly established casino may not be after profit but what they can offer and deliver for gamblers to enjoy, so they therefore build a credible reputation to quickens their growth fast and then advertise themselves, if they maintain this good deeds and continue with nthe kind of trust gamblers have on them, they will continue to flourish but if they fail along the way, it tarnish their whole reputation on the gambler and it will take a little time before they began to realize what they are losing already.

Quite true once a new casino has been launched then the owner will not ai for a big profit from the gamblers. what you said above is true they must build their reputation first before they aim for a profit cause If they are going to launch a new casino they need to sacrifice which is very important to catch the attention of the gambler. They need to handle their customer rights and do their best to run their transaction fast and smoothly as this is the only thing that a gambler want in casino.

New costumer doesn't want to see an issue will exist to a new casino since this might be their red flag to avoid this casino so to get good reputation as well as good impression they must perform very well and make those transaction smooth for their costumer to see that they are really dealing with good casino also always do automate the withdrawals and never make it manually happen because many will doubt about it since we might think that they are taking controls and might will not release some of it in future.
Directly to be a red flag on which if ever someone do see that there's some complaints or having some trust issue then this would automatically give out that negative impression which is something a very bad

thing for a business specially if its really that starting up.When you are just new then it would really be just right on saying up everything or simply being honest.Trying out to claim something which isnt true

and on the time that someone will able to find out the truth then they could easily bust you off into those things you had lied, ending up that the community will really be
making those after words which would really be criticizing on what you have done.

Yes, you are right as a gambler once a casino has. An issues about withdrawal not once but more than twice then a negative feedback will be deserve for them.  But of they are not intentionally do that then maybe the negative will turn in to a neutral one but it depends on the situation I think. The only think they need is to handle their customer with care and be responsive all the time their casino will be long last and recommended.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Dunamisx on December 23, 2022, 03:14:03 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.
Do not let us deceive ourselves and do not let those developers and sites to deceive us, the initial plan was to make web 3.0 to be decentralized, I expect it to be like how Filecoin or those BitTorrent blockchain are used to store files on computer, but it was not and yet it is not.

A casino with a good reputation and is trusted will try to maintain its reputation and provide comfort for its users and all of its members and will not be unfair to them. We have seen this being given to a trusted casino, so many of us choose to keep playing at the casino because we have found comfort in playing gambling. But some casinos cannot maintain and provide this to their members but. They instead provide cases of delays in the withdrawal process for various reasons. And this is what makes casinos like that abandoned by gamblers because they don't find comfort playing gambling there.
Slow withdrawal process would be one of the reasons gamblers can leave a casino, a better one can be gone for. That has been the reason I left fiat casino because of the slow withdrawal process. I have used like two that take weeks, some can take days, I used some local ones that that 24 hours, but crypto casinos take lesser time to process withdrawal, which is the reason I have moved entirely to crypto casino.

As long as gamblers are ever commited to a particular casino without changing to another then i think it something worth deserving also if they can have access to enjoying every good that comes in through their loyalty to that casino, but when one side is vested against the other makes it difficult to control and justify the means to weather they were been served right or not, also we have most of this casinos as well that feels relented because they think they have already arrived after making a number of committed gamblers to their casinos, shouldn't they be more concerned about gamblers being their pride and do all it takes to always have their good support at any given time on what they can deliver.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: delfastTions on December 23, 2022, 04:11:52 PM
As long as gamblers are ever commited to a particular casino without changing to another then i think it something worth deserving also if they can have access to enjoying every good that comes in through their loyalty to that casino, but when one side is vested against the other makes it difficult to control and justify the means to weather they were been served right or not, also we have most of this casinos as well that feels relented because they think they have already arrived after making a number of committed gamblers to their casinos, shouldn't they be more concerned about gamblers being their pride and do all it takes to always have their good support at any given time on what they can deliver.
I think that of course any serious large and proven casino has such players for a long time, you can probably call them fans.  And like football clubs, they are interested in some kind of even a small support of the fan movement.  Likewise, the casino should take care and somehow contribute to the preservation of such players as fans.  Of course, these should be some kind of preferences, bonuses and similar things.
I think keeping the fans of the casino alive is just a serious and important task for the marketing service of this casino.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Odusko on December 23, 2022, 04:19:43 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.
Do not let us deceive ourselves and do not let those developers and sites to deceive us, the initial plan was to make web 3.0 to be decentralized, I expect it to be like how Filecoin or those BitTorrent blockchain are used to store files on computer, but it was not and yet it is not.

A casino with a good reputation and is trusted will try to maintain its reputation and provide comfort for its users and all of its members and will not be unfair to them. We have seen this being given to a trusted casino, so many of us choose to keep playing at the casino because we have found comfort in playing gambling. But some casinos cannot maintain and provide this to their members but. They instead provide cases of delays in the withdrawal process for various reasons. And this is what makes casinos like that abandoned by gamblers because they don't find comfort playing gambling there.
Slow withdrawal process would be one of the reasons gamblers can leave a casino, a better one can be gone for. That has been the reason I left fiat casino because of the slow withdrawal process. I have used like two that take weeks, some can take days, I used some local ones that that 24 hours, but crypto casinos take lesser time to process withdrawal, which is the reason I have moved entirely to crypto casino.
Web3 casino have the sole right to be decentralized but with the presence of so many developers on the ethereum blockchain given developer open platform to create whatever the want, that is why we have some many centralized casinos that does not give the player the necessary system to maximize their presence on the casino.
This is why those reputable casinos already know the need for community satisfaction and constant loyalty program for their players, but with recent updates, most casinos have instant withdrawal time. But web 3 casino like owl has some time gap in between and high fees also.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hamphser on December 23, 2022, 10:20:12 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.
Do not let us deceive ourselves and do not let those developers and sites to deceive us, the initial plan was to make web 3.0 to be decentralized, I expect it to be like how Filecoin or those BitTorrent blockchain are used to store files on computer, but it was not and yet it is not.

A casino with a good reputation and is trusted will try to maintain its reputation and provide comfort for its users and all of its members and will not be unfair to them. We have seen this being given to a trusted casino, so many of us choose to keep playing at the casino because we have found comfort in playing gambling. But some casinos cannot maintain and provide this to their members but. They instead provide cases of delays in the withdrawal process for various reasons. And this is what makes casinos like that abandoned by gamblers because they don't find comfort playing gambling there.
Slow withdrawal process would be one of the reasons gamblers can leave a casino, a better one can be gone for. That has been the reason I left fiat casino because of the slow withdrawal process. I have used like two that take weeks, some can take days, I used some local ones that that 24 hours, but crypto casinos take lesser time to process withdrawal, which is the reason I have moved entirely to crypto casino.
Web3 casino have the sole right to be decentralized but with the presence of so many developers on the ethereum blockchain given developer open platform to create whatever the want, that is why we have some many centralized casinos that does not give the player the necessary system to maximize their presence on the casino.
This is why those reputable casinos already know the need for community satisfaction and constant loyalty program for their players, but with recent updates, most casinos have instant withdrawal time. But web 3 casino like owl has some time gap in between and high fees also.
There are really those cons on something new that we are really trying to push through and just same as you mentioned on which Owlgames does currently offer.
IF we do look on what wallets could be used which are the ff;

MetaMask
WalletConnect
Phantom
Keplr Wallet
Sender Wallet
Near Wallet
WAX Cloud Wallet
Anchor Wallet
Telegram
Sign up with email
Pontem

You could really be able to point out that it would really be involving some huge
fees and slow transactions too.It does really have their own disadvantage and this is why some people would really be just simply sticking
into those centralized ones which do offer much more faster and cheaper when it comes to fees into their gambling activity.
If it turns out that it is something looks interesting and there are new ones who do decide to go to the path of 3.0
then its up to them but they should really be true on what they are claiming.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: libert19 on December 24, 2022, 04:08:24 AM
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Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

This. Just like other marketing gimmicks. Crypto casinos were better 10 years ago when they didn't ask for even registration. Just send bet and you are done.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hypnosis00 on December 24, 2022, 12:45:12 PM
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Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

This. Just like other marketing gimmicks. Crypto casinos were better 10 years ago when they didn't ask for even registration. Just send bet and you are done.
Casinos will do things that could give a huge impact on them and money no matter what it takes, sometimes even bet their reputation just to achieve what they wanted to happen. It is obviously a big trick that gamblers would think was more advance than other platforms but deep inside, there is no huge difference from the old one. Only some features might be changed but this will not help us to win the house, not unless we are too lucky.
I was preferred the simplest one because what is more important is that they don't cheat us gamblers.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: maydna on December 24, 2022, 03:05:18 PM
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Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

This. Just like other marketing gimmicks. Crypto casinos were better 10 years ago when they didn't ask for even registration. Just send bet and you are done.
Casinos will do things that could give a huge impact on them and money no matter what it takes, sometimes even bet their reputation just to achieve what they wanted to happen. It is obviously a big trick that gamblers would think was more advance than other platforms but deep inside, there is no huge difference from the old one. Only some features might be changed but this will not help us to win the house, not unless we are too lucky.
I was preferred the simplest one because what is more important is that they don't cheat us gamblers.
I also prefer the simplest thing that they don't cheat us and don't try to do it. That's what the casino must pay attention to thrive. And if casinos ask for registration for new members nowadays, it's because everything has changed, and even the rules have changed. We as gamblers, also have to adjust to this situation, and actually, we are also not forced to follow the rules of the casino if we don't want to do it. But we are forced to follow the rules of the casino, so it's a like a path we choose for ourselves to play gambling. Actually, we can leave gambling if we think it has changed, but we can't do it yet, and we have to admit it.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: klidex on December 24, 2022, 06:03:54 PM
I agree with your point of view, It's true that in recent years there have been several cases of laundering stolen money through online casinos or crypto assets.
So don't be surprised if casino sites require conditions to make KYC.
Parties from the casino also do not want to be involved and be harmed in any form by the laundering of stolen money carried out by irresponsible persons.
And the criminal is submitted someone KYC that he bought from a person who sold his identity since he's poor. Does casino asking KYC will prevent from money laundering? nope, does KYC make the criminal harder to do bad thing? yes. This mean asking KYC is useless if the criminal know how to escape from it. Now we have blockchain analysis who can track someone coins, but they still can't catch those criminals since they're more clever.
A criminal certainly has many ways to escape and be free from his crime case.
But at least KYC can minimize this crime.
Indeed, it's actually easy to buy someone's identity to be able to make KYC and abuse it.
But in my opinion, in today's era, there are many smart people who don't want to sell their identity. Many of them are starting to realize and have thoughts and understanding of the importance of maintaining identity so that it is not known by others because it can be misused and in the end we are the ones who are harmed.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: abel1337 on December 24, 2022, 06:56:50 PM
I agree with your point of view, It's true that in recent years there have been several cases of laundering stolen money through online casinos or crypto assets.
So don't be surprised if casino sites require conditions to make KYC.
Parties from the casino also do not want to be involved and be harmed in any form by the laundering of stolen money carried out by irresponsible persons.
And the criminal is submitted someone KYC that he bought from a person who sold his identity since he's poor. Does casino asking KYC will prevent from money laundering? nope, does KYC make the criminal harder to do bad thing? yes. This mean asking KYC is useless if the criminal know how to escape from it. Now we have blockchain analysis who can track someone coins, but they still can't catch those criminals since they're more clever.
A criminal certainly has many ways to escape and be free from his crime case.
But at least KYC can minimize this crime.
Indeed, it's actually easy to buy someone's identity to be able to make KYC and abuse it.
But in my opinion, in today's era, there are many smart people who don't want to sell their identity. Many of them are starting to realize and have thoughts and understanding of the importance of maintaining identity so that it is not known by others because it can be misused and in the end we are the ones who are harmed.

With todays internet popularity, many have been aware on what kind of risk is selling their identity to others but sometimes others have no choice especially if it is their only choice in order to survive their daily lives. KYC is not bullet proof but yes it makes criminals to do extra steps in committing their crime. There are still people who are faking their identity in KYC since I can still see some advertisements that someone is paying for a service on doing KYC. There will still be people who will try to beat the system no matter how hard the process it would be.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: decodx on December 24, 2022, 07:25:30 PM
A criminal certainly has many ways to escape and be free from his crime case.
But at least KYC can minimize this crime.
Indeed, it's actually easy to buy someone's identity to be able to make KYC and abuse it.
But in my opinion, in today's era, there are many smart people who don't want to sell their identity. Many of them are starting to realize and have thoughts and understanding of the importance of maintaining identity so that it is not known by others because it can be misused and in the end we are the ones who are harmed.


Granted, privacy is an important concern for many people, and there are legitimate reasons why we want to keep certain aspects of our personal lives private. I agree that many people do not want to sell their personal information and identity, however the way I see it, there are also many people who do not realize the value of their personal data, and they are willing to trade it for financial compensation.

There are many cases where people have given up their personal data for free, in exchange for some sort of service or offer. For example, if you sign up for a loyalty card at your local grocery store and get 5% off every time you shop there, then the store has just purchased your personal data from you—and they did so without having to pay anything other than the cost of producing the card itself.

There are also people who are not aware of how their personal data can be used to manipulate or influence them, or how it can be used in a way that compromises their privacy, and this is a problem. As consumers, we have to be vigilant and aware of how our data is collected, used and stored. And I believe we need to educate people about how their personal data can be used for good, and also how it can be misused by bad actors.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: minime0105 on December 24, 2022, 07:50:02 PM
Attract people, marketing strategy, or whatever they call it, they will need it to increase the number of gamblers playing in their application even if it means lying initially. Then, just throw them the TOS or Money Laundering Act when they start asking questions.
With the large competition in gambling sites, that is the hardest part of all, to have loyal players that will not just jump from one site to another.
It's not far from those who are using click baits to receive more traffic.

Having a loyal gamblers is dependable on the credibility and the reputation of the site, because why some of us jump's from one gambling platform to another platforms it's because of the change in the site and the new introduction of gamblling rules and regulations, so, so many people don't like changes of rules and a gamblling platforms that do not encourage their players with some small amount of token, so i Think that is one of the things that makes people to have change of mind in some gambling platform.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: serjent05 on December 24, 2022, 08:34:07 PM
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Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

This. Just like other marketing gimmicks. Crypto casinos were better 10 years ago when they didn't ask for even registration. Just send bet and you are done.

It is indeed a marketing ploy, anyone announcing their site structure and technology is to gain traction and attention.  They would like their player to think that the platform has one of a kind technology that can compete or even better against the other gambling platform.  But the conflict starts when a casino is licensed.  Even with running in web3 technology, the casino need to implement stuff that is within the scope of regulation of a licensed casino and that is KYC.  They need to comply else their license would be revoked thus costing them their business.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Dunamisx on December 24, 2022, 09:40:07 PM
As long as gamblers are ever commited to a particular casino without changing to another then i think it something worth deserving also if they can have access to enjoying every good that comes in through their loyalty to that casino, but when one side is vested against the other makes it difficult to control and justify the means to weather they were been served right or not, also we have most of this casinos as well that feels relented because they think they have already arrived after making a number of committed gamblers to their casinos, shouldn't they be more concerned about gamblers being their pride and do all it takes to always have their good support at any given time on what they can deliver.
I think that of course any serious large and proven casino has such players for a long time, you can probably call them fans.  And like football clubs, they are interested in some kind of even a small support of the fan movement.  Likewise, the casino should take care and somehow contribute to the preservation of such players as fans.  Of course, these should be some kind of preferences, bonuses and similar things.
I think keeping the fans of the casino alive is just a serious and important task for the marketing service of this casino.

Now this is where we broadens the difference between fans and spectators and every casino must know which it has developed, as long as a casino begin to serve it gamblers right as they have always wanted then what such casino will have at the end are kinds of  gamblers that are fans while if the gamblers were the type that don't enjoy what's been offered then they were only catching fun with the casino through spectations.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Distinctin on December 24, 2022, 10:43:53 PM
Well, as others explained there are many companies using fake advertisements to sell their products. Its not issue only at cryptocurrency markets, but all around. People randomly use web3, nft, metaverse words around. Like completely spilling them out to pull traffic.
I also agree with idea saying companies who trick their customers are not gonna last long. I personally hate when I am tricked and completely abandon it. Most people do something similar.
And even if we hate it once we are tricked, but I think that’s something unstoppable right now as different market goes with different way of advertising to the extent of fooling people around just to attract a lot of new users. And it’s too late to realize that you even became a victim when you get to experience their fake advertisements and feel unsatisfied with their supposed to be advanced offers and services.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: capedbaldy on December 24, 2022, 10:47:34 PM
There are still people who are faking their identity in KYC since I can still see some advertisements that someone is paying for a service on doing KYC. There will still be people who will try to beat the system no matter how hard the process it would be.
Gambling sites do not verify selfie photos or face verification so they can be used to fake KYC identities, some users do that to avoid giving their real identities and they always do that for every casino that KYC is requested for, identity falsification cannot be traced on casino systems or even exchanges centralized but using fake identities is also risky because if your device is hacked or your device has been stolen then we lose access to accounts, emails and passwords so it is important that the KYC factor restores them.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: maikrothaman on December 25, 2022, 01:13:14 PM
A criminal certainly has many ways to escape and be free from his crime case.
But at least KYC can minimize this crime.
Indeed, it's actually easy to buy someone's identity to be able to make KYC and abuse it.
But in my opinion, in today's era, there are many smart people who don't want to sell their identity. Many of them are starting to realize and have thoughts and understanding of the importance of maintaining identity so that it is not known by others because it can be misused and in the end we are the ones who are harmed.


Granted, privacy is an important concern for many people, and there are legitimate reasons why we want to keep certain aspects of our personal lives private. I agree that many people do not want to sell their personal information and identity, however the way I see it, there are also many people who do not realize the value of their personal data, and they are willing to trade it for financial compensation.

There are many cases where people have given up their personal data for free, in exchange for some sort of service or offer. For example, if you sign up for a loyalty card at your local grocery store and get 5% off every time you shop there, then the store has just purchased your personal data from you—and they did so without having to pay anything other than the cost of producing the card itself.

There are also people who are not aware of how their personal data can be used to manipulate or influence them, or how it can be used in a way that compromises their privacy, and this is a problem. As consumers, we have to be vigilant and aware of how our data is collected, used and stored. And I believe we need to educate people about how their personal data can be used for good, and also how it can be misused by bad actors.


You're correct. Why privacy-enhancing features aren't built into these gambling platforms is beyond me.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: coinerer on December 25, 2022, 01:38:56 PM
There are still people who are faking their identity in KYC since I can still see some advertisements that someone is paying for a service on doing KYC. There will still be people who will try to beat the system no matter how hard the process it would be.
Gambling sites do not verify selfie photos or face verification so they can be used to fake KYC identities, some users do that to avoid giving their real identities and they always do that for every casino that KYC is requested for, identity falsification cannot be traced on casino systems or even exchanges centralized but using fake identities is also risky because if your device is hacked or your device has been stolen then we lose access to accounts, emails and passwords so it is important that the KYC factor restores them.
If someone uses a fake KYC document then it is a clear proof that he has done it for some kind of illegal activity so those who do so must be careful.  And those who are a real gambler and open an account and kyc on a casino site for the sole purpose of gambling they must use real documents. So in this case the gambling sites should observe the kyc documents well.  And if necessary, launch the Face verification system


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 25, 2022, 03:51:16 PM
There are still people who are faking their identity in KYC since I can still see some advertisements that someone is paying for a service on doing KYC. There will still be people who will try to beat the system no matter how hard the process it would be.
Gambling sites do not verify selfie photos or face verification so they can be used to fake KYC identities, some users do that to avoid giving their real identities and they always do that for every casino that KYC is requested for, identity falsification cannot be traced on casino systems or even exchanges centralized but using fake identities is also risky because if your device is hacked or your device has been stolen then we lose access to accounts, emails and passwords so it is important that the KYC factor restores them.
Maybe verification with selfie photos or face verification, as done by exchanges, has not been implemented in casinos. Still, there is a possibility that it will also be applied in the future if there are many cases of abuse of verification or identity forgery. But for now, if a user wants to hide their identity, they should look for a casino that provides the facility to link their account to their personal wallet so they won't be asked to verify even though the casino will still ask them to verify later.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: abel1337 on December 25, 2022, 06:41:49 PM
There are still people who are faking their identity in KYC since I can still see some advertisements that someone is paying for a service on doing KYC. There will still be people who will try to beat the system no matter how hard the process it would be.
Gambling sites do not verify selfie photos or face verification so they can be used to fake KYC identities, some users do that to avoid giving their real identities and they always do that for every casino that KYC is requested for, identity falsification cannot be traced on casino systems or even exchanges centralized but using fake identities is also risky because if your device is hacked or your device has been stolen then we lose access to accounts, emails and passwords so it is important that the KYC factor restores them.
Maybe verification with selfie photos or face verification, as done by exchanges, has not been implemented in casinos. Still, there is a possibility that it will also be applied in the future if there are many cases of abuse of verification or identity forgery. But for now, if a user wants to hide their identity, they should look for a casino that provides the facility to link their account to their personal wallet so they won't be asked to verify even though the casino will still ask them to verify later.
There's a high chance that the KYC verification will level up in the upcoming years knowing that it is easy to falsify an identity and with our latest technology, Even selfie verification and face verification can be faked. I wonder if deep fake is used on a verification by someone and if it passed the KYC. I wonder how do the casino fight those who are doing Fake KYC and how can they identify if someone is doing it on their casino. It is more easy to fake an ID now compared on the past years.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Agbe on December 25, 2022, 08:01:45 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
Web3 was originated from the co-founder of Ethereum Gavin Wood which means "Read, Write and Own". You are the owner of the asset, that is, there is an element not decentralization of protocol. By the right web3 does not need for KYC for any identification base on it definition and if any casino site claim to be web3 and asking for KYC, that casino need to be question, because fake site can come up.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: uneng on December 25, 2022, 08:28:26 PM
There are still people who are faking their identity in KYC since I can still see some advertisements that someone is paying for a service on doing KYC. There will still be people who will try to beat the system no matter how hard the process it would be.
Gambling sites do not verify selfie photos or face verification so they can be used to fake KYC identities, some users do that to avoid giving their real identities and they always do that for every casino that KYC is requested for, identity falsification cannot be traced on casino systems or even exchanges centralized but using fake identities is also risky because if your device is hacked or your device has been stolen then we lose access to accounts, emails and passwords so it is important that the KYC factor restores them.
Maybe verification with selfie photos or face verification, as done by exchanges, has not been implemented in casinos. Still, there is a possibility that it will also be applied in the future if there are many cases of abuse of verification or identity forgery. But for now, if a user wants to hide their identity, they should look for a casino that provides the facility to link their account to their personal wallet so they won't be asked to verify even though the casino will still ask them to verify later.
There's a high chance that the KYC verification will level up in the upcoming years knowing that it is easy to falsify an identity and with our latest technology, Even selfie verification and face verification can be faked. I wonder if deep fake is used on a verification by someone and if it passed the KYC. I wonder how do the casino fight those who are doing Fake KYC and how can they identify if someone is doing it on their casino. It is more easy to fake an ID now compared on the past years.
I think casinos aren't concerned if the IDs provided are false. They simply ask for IDs because that is the mandatory protocol to be followed. If the informations given by gamblers are legit or fake, it's a concern for the authorities to go after those gamblers and punish them also accordingly to the mandatory protocols. With so much technology available I guess it must be really easy to create some fake IDs and pass it ahead as being true. In some time KYC process must become worthless due to the high volume of IDs provided in a global level and the incidence of fakes among them.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: decodx on December 25, 2022, 09:04:05 PM
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You're correct. Why privacy-enhancing features aren't built into these gambling platforms is beyond me.

I think one reason could be that online gambling is regulated by governments and regulatory bodies, which may require companies to collect certain information about their customers for compliance purposes. That could make it difficult for gambling platforms to offer strong privacy protections without running afoul of these regulations. Another reason could be that gambling platforms might have incentives to collect customer data for marketing and analytics purposes. This data can be used to better understand customer preferences and behavior, allowing the platform to target its marketing efforts more effectively, and potentially increase its revenues. It's also possible that gambling platforms simply have not prioritized the development of privacy-enhancing features, or that they believe that the benefits of collecting and using customer data outweigh any potential privacy concerns.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 26, 2022, 04:28:43 AM
There are still people who are faking their identity in KYC since I can still see some advertisements that someone is paying for a service on doing KYC. There will still be people who will try to beat the system no matter how hard the process it would be.
Gambling sites do not verify selfie photos or face verification so they can be used to fake KYC identities, some users do that to avoid giving their real identities and they always do that for every casino that KYC is requested for, identity falsification cannot be traced on casino systems or even exchanges centralized but using fake identities is also risky because if your device is hacked or your device has been stolen then we lose access to accounts, emails and passwords so it is important that the KYC factor restores them.
Maybe verification with selfie photos or face verification, as done by exchanges, has not been implemented in casinos. Still, there is a possibility that it will also be applied in the future if there are many cases of abuse of verification or identity forgery. But for now, if a user wants to hide their identity, they should look for a casino that provides the facility to link their account to their personal wallet so they won't be asked to verify even though the casino will still ask them to verify later.
There's a high chance that the KYC verification will level up in the upcoming years knowing that it is easy to falsify an identity and with our latest technology, Even selfie verification and face verification can be faked. I wonder if deep fake is used on a verification by someone and if it passed the KYC. I wonder how do the casino fight those who are doing Fake KYC and how can they identify if someone is doing it on their casino. It is more easy to fake an ID now compared on the past years.
That's right because the advancement of technology requires more verification to be sure who owns the account so other people are not misusing it for illegal activities. The casino may also implement deep fake if the casino suspects a discrepancy with the previous verification so the casino needs to confirm everything before processing everything. I don't know how a casino can identify a person according to their identity because it is a casino secret and they will not disclose it to the public.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Desmong on December 26, 2022, 08:52:14 PM
Web 3.0 has become bait in the past months and that's because people don't fully understand the concept, as OP mentioned, it's supposed to be for decentralized projects, but when people run a project with their own token while holding more than 20% of the total tokens, that's fully centralized. And that just brings more confusion about the Web 3.0 projects.

So, we can call it high-quality bait to attract new users.
I still don't know why many casinos even the ones that do require KYC do claim to be a web3 casino. That is very confusing to me. Do web3 has anything to do with KYC? I thought is more of decentralized way of gambling without a centralized world. Things are easily moving and the change is becoming constant.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hamphser on December 26, 2022, 09:31:16 PM
Web 3.0 has become bait in the past months and that's because people don't fully understand the concept, as OP mentioned, it's supposed to be for decentralized projects, but when people run a project with their own token while holding more than 20% of the total tokens, that's fully centralized. And that just brings more confusion about the Web 3.0 projects.

So, we can call it high-quality bait to attract new users.
I still don't know why many casinos even the ones that do require KYC do claim to be a web3 casino. That is very confusing to me. Do web3 has anything to do with KYC? I thought is more of decentralized way of gambling without a centralized world. Things are easily moving and the change is becoming constant.
Just to have some idea on how 3.0 looks like but this only covers up on wallet options
https://owl.games/

People or the community does really want to have those changes and we know that innovation and changes is something inevitable.
We would really be liking to see something like this which is fully integrated on a site specially with gambling and using the word web 3.0
and trying out to claim that your site is something like this and turns out to be proven to be non then it would really be
a mess up.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Ebede on December 26, 2022, 10:33:23 PM
Web 3.0 has become bait in the past months and that's because people don't fully understand the concept, as OP mentioned, it's supposed to be for decentralized projects, but when people run a project with their own token while holding more than 20% of the total tokens, that's fully centralized. And that just brings more confusion about the Web 3.0 projects.

So, we can call it high-quality bait to attract new users.
I still don't know why many casinos even the ones that do require KYC do claim to be a web3 casino. That is very confusing to me. Do web3 has anything to do with KYC? I thought is more of decentralized way of gambling without a centralized world. Things are easily moving and the change is becoming constant.
Just to have some idea on how 3.0 looks like but this only covers up on wallet options
https://owl.games/

People or the community does really want to have those changes and we know that innovation and changes is something inevitable.
We would really be liking to see something like this which is fully integrated on a site specially with gambling and using the word web 3.0
and trying out to claim that your site is something like this and turns out to be proven to be non then it would really be
a mess up.
They want to I'm making but I found it very difficult to understand maybe I am lost in this but I will like you if I have the opportunity to leave you your post to expatiate this so that I will be able to understand you exactly not for others myself, gambling is something i know that we have understand because of the lost which is involve


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: stomachgrowls on December 27, 2022, 11:16:10 PM
Web 3.0 has become bait in the past months and that's because people don't fully understand the concept, as OP mentioned, it's supposed to be for decentralized projects, but when people run a project with their own token while holding more than 20% of the total tokens, that's fully centralized. And that just brings more confusion about the Web 3.0 projects.

So, we can call it high-quality bait to attract new users.
I still don't know why many casinos even the ones that do require KYC do claim to be a web3 casino. That is very confusing to me. Do web3 has anything to do with KYC? I thought is more of decentralized way of gambling without a centralized world. Things are easily moving and the change is becoming constant.
Just to have some idea on how 3.0 looks like but this only covers up on wallet options
https://owl.games/

People or the community does really want to have those changes and we know that innovation and changes is something inevitable.
We would really be liking to see something like this which is fully integrated on a site specially with gambling and using the word web 3.0
and trying out to claim that your site is something like this and turns out to be proven to be non then it would really be
a mess up.
They want to I'm making but I found it very difficult to understand maybe I am lost in this but I will like you if I have the opportunity to leave you your post to expatiate this so that I will be able to understand you exactly not for others myself, gambling is something i know that we have understand because of the lost which is involve
Post made above is simply could be understand and if you do have make use of your own basic common sense and understanding then even a gradeschooler would be able to understand on whats been talked about.
This do proves out that your feedbacks are really hit on point which you do make out some shit post everywhere.Same goes into casino signature that you are wearing. *not surprising*

I do agree on what Hampsher said above on which if people would find out that a current site is claiming to be a web 3.0 but its actually not then people would really be angry nor really that frustrated
because they are claiming on something which it isnt true.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 30, 2022, 03:17:32 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
Probably, it’s one way to make people believed that it’s different from others and to attract more users and let them experience by themselves. Although I would say that the operators have research about web3, but so far I have not experienced this yet, and maybe some operators have wanted to adopt it and are still making some preparations to finally realize it in the future.
When we do speak about web 3 casino then it would be particularly meaning into this.

Web3 Casino ecosystem is a fusion of Businesses between Casino, sports betting, NFT and Decentralized crypto wallets or Dapps. Is an idea for a new iteration of the gambling which incorporates concepts such as decentralization, blockchain technologies, and token-based economics.

Source (https://sirplay.com/web3-casino/#:~:text=Web3%20Casino%20ecosystem%20is%20a,%2C%20and%20token%2Dbased%20economics.)

If people do see that its still that still centralized then its really totally opposite on how it should be.

Basically with this it encompasses everything conceptual in terms of casinos and what many people are looking for, they find it in a single casino all the functionalities, there are casinos that currently take advantage of the NFT technology, and also take advantage of the technology with respect to tokens, This is something that can be very significant, but in terms of functionality, in terms of centralized or decentralized systems, you can choose the best things that the client likes. Of course, this is an alternative to what could occur before the metaverse or in what which can be a preamble before the metaverses (if given) to be able to have more breadth in everything.



Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: michellee on December 30, 2022, 07:12:56 AM
Web 3.0 has become bait in the past months and that's because people don't fully understand the concept, as OP mentioned, it's supposed to be for decentralized projects, but when people run a project with their own token while holding more than 20% of the total tokens, that's fully centralized. And that just brings more confusion about the Web 3.0 projects.

So, we can call it high-quality bait to attract new users.
I still don't know why many casinos even the ones that do require KYC do claim to be a web3 casino. That is very confusing to me. Do web3 has anything to do with KYC? I thought is more of decentralized way of gambling without a centralized world. Things are easily moving and the change is becoming constant.
There may be no relation between web3 casino and KYC but at least, if the casino is seen to have a lot of gamblers, the government will approach it and require KYC on the members in that casino. But it could be a new trend that will emerge later (or is now starting to become a trend). But whatever it is, it's just us who have to choose to stay in the casino that we usually use to play gambling or want to move to a web3-based casino and whatever we choose, we still have to be careful playing gambling.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: danadc on December 31, 2022, 09:08:00 PM
Web 3.0 has become bait in the past months and that's because people don't fully understand the concept, as OP mentioned, it's supposed to be for decentralized projects, but when people run a project with their own token while holding more than 20% of the total tokens, that's fully centralized. And that just brings more confusion about the Web 3.0 projects.

So, we can call it high-quality bait to attract new users.
I still don't know why many casinos even the ones that do require KYC do claim to be a web3 casino. That is very confusing to me. Do web3 has anything to do with KYC? I thought is more of decentralized way of gambling without a centralized world. Things are easily moving and the change is becoming constant.
There may be no relation between web3 casino and KYC but at least, if the casino is seen to have a lot of gamblers, the government will approach it and require KYC on the members in that casino. But it could be a new trend that will emerge later (or is now starting to become a trend). But whatever it is, it's just us who have to choose to stay in the casino that we usually use to play gambling or want to move to a web3-based casino and whatever we choose, we still have to be careful playing gambling.

I also think the same, there are many players who have the best intention of playing in new casinos, I did not know that it was a web3 casino and that is something that caught my attention and having many options in the world to choose a casino You can choose to play in that of the different characteristics, as a player I always look for different things and something that catches my attention if they offer me something or that I am not used to seeing.

Casinos are always looking to make a profit anyway, and KYC implies many things and that is KYC, I don't think much of it but there are players who give more importance to KYC.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: mdzahed134 on January 01, 2023, 02:07:31 PM
Casino owners still have the right to ask for KYC because regulators also supervise them, so they also need to supervise their users. We may think that web 3.0 doesn't require KYC but we also can't do anything about it if the casinos keep asking us to do KYC.

And if you don't want to do KYC, you can look for other casinos that don't implement KYC. Maybe it's a misunderstanding of people in interpreting web 3.0 or is it to attract more users and say that their casino is a decentralized casino or is it just a new trend in the gambling business.
If they're promoting their casino platforms as a web 3.0, Then why they will ask to KYC? Where Web 3.0 means decentralized crypto casino platform, definitely it’s seems just a promotion to attract new users, they've no right if they're really Web 3.0, It’s not a solution to look another casino with no KYC.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: AviatriX_game on January 02, 2023, 09:36:37 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

If the casino is licensed, then they have certain obligations, and if they are not fulfilled, they will simply be blocked in the markets where they provide the service. It is also the to protect against money laundering and casino abuse.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: khaled0111 on January 02, 2023, 10:07:14 PM
If they're promoting their casino platforms as a web 3.0, Then why they will ask to KYC? Where Web 3.0 means decentralized crypto casino platform, definitely it’s seems just a promotion to attract new users, they've no right if they're really Web 3.0, It’s not a solution to look another casino with no KYC.
As long as you use your browser to access the casino's website and its games which, all of them, are hosted on centralized servers, then I don't think we can really talk about decentralization. A lot of work is still needed to be done especially on the infrastructure level before we can see a true decentralized web3 casino or any other service.
We should not either forget about regulations which will certainly make this dream harder to come true.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Desmong on January 02, 2023, 10:44:24 PM
Web 3.0 has become bait in the past months and that's because people don't fully understand the concept, as OP mentioned, it's supposed to be for decentralized projects, but when people run a project with their own token while holding more than 20% of the total tokens, that's fully centralized. And that just brings more confusion about the Web 3.0 projects.

So, we can call it high-quality bait to attract new users.
I still don't know why many casinos even the ones that do require KYC do claim to be a web3 casino. That is very confusing to me. Do web3 has anything to do with KYC? I thought is more of decentralized way of gambling without a centralized world. Things are easily moving and the change is becoming constant.
There may be no relation between web3 casino and KYC but at least, if the casino is seen to have a lot of gamblers, the government will approach it and require KYC on the members in that casino. But it could be a new trend that will emerge later (or is now starting to become a trend). But whatever it is, it's just us who have to choose to stay in the casino that we usually use to play gambling or want to move to a web3-based casino and whatever we choose, we still have to be careful playing gambling.
Even though that would be a new thread that could happens later then we need to enjoy it now while it last. I am not against the use of KYC by many casinos because this is a way to ensure proper safety go there customers which many people may not know about. But some casinos do this with another different attempt not to help when help arise but to deprive customers of there funds.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: blockman on January 02, 2023, 11:21:04 PM
If the casino is licensed, then they have certain obligations, and if they are not fulfilled, they will simply be blocked in the markets where they provide the service. It is also the to protect against money laundering and casino abuse.
That's what it is nowadays. But look at many casinos today, still, they won't ask for kyc as long as you're on the threshold that they've set and you're not obligated in providing them your identification unless they start asking so.
But as per experience, not all of them are like that and you're free to gamble wherever you are it's funny to think that some casinos are into web3 which is all about decentralization and yet, they're asking for some kyc. So, basically they just came in for the hype providing that they're a casino that has described themselves as web 3.0 but overall, they're not having the attitude of what it is to be.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 02, 2023, 11:57:33 PM
If the casino is licensed, then they have certain obligations, and if they are not fulfilled, they will simply be blocked in the markets where they provide the service. It is also the to protect against money laundering and casino abuse.
That's what it is nowadays. But look at many casinos today, still, they won't ask for kyc as long as you're on the threshold that they've set and you're not obligated in providing them your identification unless they start asking so.
But as per experience, not all of them are like that and you're free to gamble wherever you are it's funny to think that some casinos are into web3 which is all about decentralization and yet, they're asking for some kyc. So, basically they just came in for the hype providing that they're a casino that has described themselves as web 3.0 but overall, they're not having the attitude of what it is to be.

most of them who are promoting web 3.0 are just riding the hype. but if you dig deeper, they are not practicing its true purpose. a lot of licensed casinos that you can find in this forum still don't require kyc. but definitely, if it is clearly stated in their terms, better prepare for it rather than pretending you don't know about such requirement. stick to the reputable casinos known to this forum and you won't encounter much trouble. a lot of members will also assist you if you have valid problem towards the site.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: lienfaye on January 03, 2023, 01:57:33 AM
Casino owners still have the right to ask for KYC because regulators also supervise them, so they also need to supervise their users. We may think that web 3.0 doesn't require KYC but we also can't do anything about it if the casinos keep asking us to do KYC.

And if you don't want to do KYC, you can look for other casinos that don't implement KYC. Maybe it's a misunderstanding of people in interpreting web 3.0 or is it to attract more users and say that their casino is a decentralized casino or is it just a new trend in the gambling business.
If they're promoting their casino platforms as a web 3.0, Then why they will ask to KYC? Where Web 3.0 means decentralized crypto casino platform, definitely it’s seems just a promotion to attract new users, they've no right if they're really Web 3.0, It’s not a solution to look another casino with no KYC.
As many here already pointed out, clearly it's just a front to lure the gamblers who are looking for casinos without asking for kyc. If the casinos are claiming to be web 3.0 but operating as centralized then they're not honest, and just using this trick to get the attention of gamblers who value their privacy. Hence, stay away to this kind of site and look for casinos that don't require their players to comply on kyc if you're not a whale and just an average gambler. Many casinos now are regulated thus it's now common however you can still find casinos who doesn't require it.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 03, 2023, 10:48:52 AM
Casino owners still have the right to ask for KYC because regulators also supervise them, so they also need to supervise their users. We may think that web 3.0 doesn't require KYC but we also can't do anything about it if the casinos keep asking us to do KYC.

And if you don't want to do KYC, you can look for other casinos that don't implement KYC. Maybe it's a misunderstanding of people in interpreting web 3.0 or is it to attract more users and say that their casino is a decentralized casino or is it just a new trend in the gambling business.
If they're promoting their casino platforms as a web 3.0, Then why they will ask to KYC? Where Web 3.0 means decentralized crypto casino platform, definitely it’s seems just a promotion to attract new users, they've no right if they're really Web 3.0, It’s not a solution to look another casino with no KYC.
You have to remember, even though the casino claims their casino is Web 3.0, they can make new rules for their members such as telling them to do KYC because the government is pressuring them to require all members to do KYC. It's easy for them because they already have a lot of members playing at their casino. Yes, it is a promotion that attracts new users and if you are not comfortable with this, you can choose to use another casino that may still ask you to do KYC. We must be observant in choosing the casino and avoid easily following promotions from casinos like that.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: swogerino on January 03, 2023, 11:30:19 AM
Casino owners still have the right to ask for KYC because regulators also supervise them, so they also need to supervise their users. We may think that web 3.0 doesn't require KYC but we also can't do anything about it if the casinos keep asking us to do KYC.

And if you don't want to do KYC, you can look for other casinos that don't implement KYC. Maybe it's a misunderstanding of people in interpreting web 3.0 or is it to attract more users and say that their casino is a decentralized casino or is it just a new trend in the gambling business.
If they're promoting their casino platforms as a web 3.0, Then why they will ask to KYC? Where Web 3.0 means decentralized crypto casino platform, definitely it’s seems just a promotion to attract new users, they've no right if they're really Web 3.0, It’s not a solution to look another casino with no KYC.
You have to remember, even though the casino claims their casino is Web 3.0, they can make new rules for their members such as telling them to do KYC because the government is pressuring them to require all members to do KYC. It's easy for them because they already have a lot of members playing at their casino. Yes, it is a promotion that attracts new users and if you are not comfortable with this, you can choose to use another casino that may still ask you to do KYC. We must be observant in choosing the casino and avoid easily following promotions from casinos like that.

Most such casinos if at all will only make an attempt to sell to you the web 3.0 usage by asking you to connect your wallet like your Metamask or Trust wallet in order to play directly without having to deposit and even this I have not seen it implemented yet in casinos that they are claiming to be 3.0 complaint.

Regarding the KYC as said here it is better to know that the reputable ones we know already will not ask it for non relevant amounts but be prepared to provide not only identity documents but also proof of income/source of income in order for you to not have problems withdrawing huge amounts if you happen to win them.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: blockman on January 03, 2023, 09:35:00 PM
If the casino is licensed, then they have certain obligations, and if they are not fulfilled, they will simply be blocked in the markets where they provide the service. It is also the to protect against money laundering and casino abuse.
That's what it is nowadays. But look at many casinos today, still, they won't ask for kyc as long as you're on the threshold that they've set and you're not obligated in providing them your identification unless they start asking so.
But as per experience, not all of them are like that and you're free to gamble wherever you are it's funny to think that some casinos are into web3 which is all about decentralization and yet, they're asking for some kyc. So, basically they just came in for the hype providing that they're a casino that has described themselves as web 3.0 but overall, they're not having the attitude of what it is to be.

most of them who are promoting web 3.0 are just riding the hype. but if you dig deeper, they are not practicing its true purpose. a lot of licensed casinos that you can find in this forum still don't require kyc. but definitely, if it is clearly stated in their terms, better prepare for it rather than pretending you don't know about such requirement. stick to the reputable casinos known to this forum and you won't encounter much trouble. a lot of members will also assist you if you have valid problem towards the site.
Yup.
It's what many have noticed about them. They're for the current trend and not really for the actual description of what that trend is all about.
The true thing about them is they just want to garner customers through it because it seems effective as marketing but eventually, they'll change their ways just as the normal way of a casino that implements their local rules.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 04, 2023, 08:55:33 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.
Do not let us deceive ourselves and do not let those developers and sites to deceive us, the initial plan was to make web 3.0 to be decentralized, I expect it to be like how Filecoin or those BitTorrent blockchain are used to store files on computer, but it was not and yet it is not.

A casino with a good reputation and is trusted will try to maintain its reputation and provide comfort for its users and all of its members and will not be unfair to them. We have seen this being given to a trusted casino, so many of us choose to keep playing at the casino because we have found comfort in playing gambling. But some casinos cannot maintain and provide this to their members but. They instead provide cases of delays in the withdrawal process for various reasons. And this is what makes casinos like that abandoned by gamblers because they don't find comfort playing gambling there.
Slow withdrawal process would be one of the reasons gamblers can leave a casino, a better one can be gone for. That has been the reason I left fiat casino because of the slow withdrawal process. I have used like two that take weeks, some can take days, I used some local ones that that 24 hours, but crypto casinos take lesser time to process withdrawal, which is the reason I have moved entirely to crypto casino.
Web3 casino have the sole right to be decentralized but with the presence of so many developers on the ethereum blockchain given developer open platform to create whatever the want, that is why we have some many centralized casinos that does not give the player the necessary system to maximize their presence on the casino.
This is why those reputable casinos already know the need for community satisfaction and constant loyalty program for their players, but with recent updates, most casinos have instant withdrawal time. But web 3 casino like owl has some time gap in between and high fees also.
Well, it can really be a prisoner, as long as bitcoin is in a bearish trend, I believe that there is no type of problem, the problem is the congestion that may occur when making a transaction that is pro of the ERC-20 network, it is because Therefore, a decentralized casino should manage several networks, Binance, Solana, any of the networks such as Polygon that can offer really low fees to be able to develop as it is and how it should, presenting the best comforts for some users of casinos that have a lot to play and offer more fun, making the difference with other casinos. This is something that web3 casino development can do.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Silberman on January 05, 2023, 12:44:33 AM
If the casino is licensed, then they have certain obligations, and if they are not fulfilled, they will simply be blocked in the markets where they provide the service. It is also the to protect against money laundering and casino abuse.
That's what it is nowadays. But look at many casinos today, still, they won't ask for kyc as long as you're on the threshold that they've set and you're not obligated in providing them your identification unless they start asking so.
But as per experience, not all of them are like that and you're free to gamble wherever you are it's funny to think that some casinos are into web3 which is all about decentralization and yet, they're asking for some kyc. So, basically they just came in for the hype providing that they're a casino that has described themselves as web 3.0 but overall, they're not having the attitude of what it is to be.

most of them who are promoting web 3.0 are just riding the hype. but if you dig deeper, they are not practicing its true purpose. a lot of licensed casinos that you can find in this forum still don't require kyc. but definitely, if it is clearly stated in their terms, better prepare for it rather than pretending you don't know about such requirement. stick to the reputable casinos known to this forum and you won't encounter much trouble. a lot of members will also assist you if you have valid problem towards the site.
Yup.
It's what many have noticed about them. They're for the current trend and not really for the actual description of what that trend is all about.
The true thing about them is they just want to garner customers through it because it seems effective as marketing but eventually, they'll change their ways just as the normal way of a casino that implements their local rules.
This is something we see a lot in this market, for example there were many exchanges that were selling themselves as decentralized but in fact they were centralized, they simply labeled themselves this way despite not being decentralized and they did this because they knew that in this way they will get more customers, but once those people found the truth then it was obvious they are never going to trust on them again as they are not above lying to get their objectives.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 05, 2023, 12:56:59 AM
If the casino is licensed, then they have certain obligations, and if they are not fulfilled, they will simply be blocked in the markets where they provide the service. It is also the to protect against money laundering and casino abuse.
That's what it is nowadays. But look at many casinos today, still, they won't ask for kyc as long as you're on the threshold that they've set and you're not obligated in providing them your identification unless they start asking so.
But as per experience, not all of them are like that and you're free to gamble wherever you are it's funny to think that some casinos are into web3 which is all about decentralization and yet, they're asking for some kyc. So, basically they just came in for the hype providing that they're a casino that has described themselves as web 3.0 but overall, they're not having the attitude of what it is to be.

most of them who are promoting web 3.0 are just riding the hype. but if you dig deeper, they are not practicing its true purpose. a lot of licensed casinos that you can find in this forum still don't require kyc. but definitely, if it is clearly stated in their terms, better prepare for it rather than pretending you don't know about such requirement. stick to the reputable casinos known to this forum and you won't encounter much trouble. a lot of members will also assist you if you have valid problem towards the site.
Yup.
It's what many have noticed about them. They're for the current trend and not really for the actual description of what that trend is all about.
The true thing about them is they just want to garner customers through it because it seems effective as marketing but eventually, they'll change their ways just as the normal way of a casino that implements their local rules.

But web 3 is something that is almost in the pipeline for many casinos, when a particular casino launches it, all the casinos will join there, and the advantage that this particular casino has will be skewed in a very short period of time. If we take into account that these things can happen, we also have to consider that now when a casino starts with the metaverses, everyone also adapts to the same thing, so there would be no advantage, what comes out cannot be adapted, and they don't have to be both with web 3, or metaverses, I think that's what it's about here, and also in attracting many more customers with the new features that new technologies can give us.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: BVeyron on March 09, 2023, 07:30:12 PM
There are still no true web 3.0 casino, most probably the way to attract customers... As for KYC, I doubt that there will ever be a stable casino with no KYC, since when the question is in cryptocurrency stakes, then thats a good stuff, but evrythin becomes a different deal when money withdrawal appears...


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: paxmao on March 09, 2023, 09:13:14 PM
Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
Well, in business, any thing to bring in or win more customers over to the company is always a go and it's welcomed.
I am not surprised though, things like this are not new, casinos can claim to be what they aren't just for the sole purpose of attracting customers, and I do not blame them, this is an industry where everyone is trying to stay anonymous but still want to get involved in businesses that does not require customers to be anonymous due to some reasons best known to them.
And to keep the business going, they have to make the customer feel that they(the business) is actually what they(the customers) want, so if it takes the casino claiming to be a web 3.0 casinos where as they aren't, it is still a business strategy.

Well, if you do not see anything special, as a user, then there is nothing special. The fact that you ask if there is something behind is already a good clue that there is nothing behind. Anyone can claim, 4D effects or Web 3.0 or Crypto-enhanced or, my favourite : "driven by AI". In the end it is about you and your experience and if it does not feel different is not different.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: carlfebz2 on March 09, 2023, 10:38:29 PM
Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
Well, in business, any thing to bring in or win more customers over to the company is always a go and it's welcomed.
I am not surprised though, things like this are not new, casinos can claim to be what they aren't just for the sole purpose of attracting customers, and I do not blame them, this is an industry where everyone is trying to stay anonymous but still want to get involved in businesses that does not require customers to be anonymous due to some reasons best known to them.
And to keep the business going, they have to make the customer feel that they(the business) is actually what they(the customers) want, so if it takes the casino claiming to be a web 3.0 casinos where as they aren't, it is still a business strategy.

Well, if you do not see anything special, as a user, then there is nothing special. The fact that you ask if there is something behind is already a good clue that there is nothing behind. Anyone can claim, 4D effects or Web 3.0 or Crypto-enhanced or, my favourite : "driven by AI". In the end it is about you and your experience and if it does not feel different is not different.
In short, you are still the ones who would really be deciding on which you would be deciding whether you would really be that interested or not.Each of us do really likes something or really that we do prefer.

If there's something new then its up to someone whether they would really be engaging into that or would pass because there's no something new or not really that interested at all.

Companies would be doing their best on making something which would hook up the gambling community.The market is somewhat saturated already and we
would really like to see some offerings which hadnt been seen before.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Ryker1 on March 09, 2023, 11:02:51 PM
There are still no true web 3.0 casino, most probably the way to attract customers... As for KYC, I doubt that there will ever be a stable casino with no KYC, since when the question is in cryptocurrency stakes, then thats a good stuff, but evrythin becomes a different deal when money withdrawal appears...
I agree with your point about the absence of a true web 3.0 casino. While there are many online casinos that operate using blockchain technology, most of them still lack the sophistication and features that are expected from a true web 3.0 casino. Regarding KYC, it is understandable why online casinos require their customers to go through this process. This is to prevent fraud and money laundering activities, which can be prevalent in the online gambling industry. However, with the advancement of blockchain technology, there are now solutions that allow for secure and private transactions, without compromising the safety of the platform. But perhaps the adoption of web 3.0 technology is still in its early stages. As more companies begin to embrace this technology and its potential, we can expect to see more innovative solutions that address the current limitations in the online gambling industry.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: danadc on March 09, 2023, 11:33:42 PM
There are still no true web 3.0 casino, most probably the way to attract customers... As for KYC, I doubt that there will ever be a stable casino with no KYC, since when the question is in cryptocurrency stakes, then thats a good stuff, but evrythin becomes a different deal when money withdrawal appears...
I agree with your point about the absence of a true web 3.0 casino. While there are many online casinos that operate using blockchain technology, most of them still lack the sophistication and features that are expected from a true web 3.0 casino. Regarding KYC, it is understandable why online casinos require their customers to go through this process. This is to prevent fraud and money laundering activities, which can be prevalent in the online gambling industry. However, with the advancement of blockchain technology, there are now solutions that allow for secure and private transactions, without compromising the safety of the platform. But perhaps the adoption of web 3.0 technology is still in its early stages. As more companies begin to embrace this technology and its potential, we can expect to see more innovative solutions that address the current limitations in the online gambling industry.

I would be delighted if in a web3 casino they can have their clients without kyc, I don't know how much they can do, but they should achieve it, because with kyc everything is not only a drama but also a nuisance, all casinos have kyc and if one comes out that it is with web3 and is the same as the others, it does not perform the function that we are looking for, everything is somewhat the same but with different functions, for that reason I stay in the casinos that I always play, I only play in dulebits and it goes well for me, I do not I complicate and I know that it is a casino that if you comply with its kyc it is not so complicated with the subject.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: kenshi222 on March 12, 2023, 01:20:32 PM
After the emergence of this cryptocurrency all over the world.The same was implemented in the gambling and casino.Most of the crypto currency based on casino was emerged after 2020.As you said the Kyc verification of this website was understandable one.So if anyone required to do kyc for this kindly follow the method.Many people using the gambling site to launder of money.Many people get into crypto gambling now and they don’t know to market on crypto currency forum.This forum is best to market for the crypto gambling and casino.Bitcoin is the accepted one in most of crypto gambling.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on March 12, 2023, 05:13:25 PM
It's fine if gambling platforms use web 3.0 in their descriptions, as they know that web 3.0 is currently trending, and to be honest, online casinos will end up running on web3.0 regardless, but right now it's not, no single online casino is running on true web3.0 yet, as many have said in this thread. I don't know what these people are doing wrong, it's part of the marketing strategy, so I don't see what they are doing wrong.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: klidex on March 12, 2023, 05:14:13 PM
After the emergence of this cryptocurrency all over the world.The same was implemented in the gambling and casino.Most of the crypto currency based on casino was emerged after 2020.As you said the Kyc verification of this website was understandable one.So if anyone required to do kyc for this kindly follow the method.Many people using the gambling site to launder of money.Many people get into crypto gambling now and they don’t know to market on crypto currency forum.This forum is best to market for the crypto gambling and casino.Bitcoin is the accepted one in most of crypto gambling.
I understand what you mean, but not all gamblers require KYC and not all gamblers want KYC either.
So doing KYC only to deposit at gambling for me is up to the gambler, but if asked for KYC to be able to withdraw big wins or have serious problems, it is necessary.
Actually asking for KYC is not a problem and doing KYC in gambling is also fine.
Because there are indeed a lot of gamblers who use money laundered to bet.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Lida93 on March 12, 2023, 09:04:31 PM
These casinos are well informed than you may be thinking, these are gimmicks they use as part of market strategies and attractions to lure in many new users that might wanna pick interest or out of curiosity to know what the nomenclature web3.0 depicts for a casino, along the line they might end up registering with them becoming a new user and as such business is moving for them. See this as a way of manipulating gamblers at all cost to their site but it's better they obviously make it known to the gambler from the initial that they're KYC oriented instead of doing so in a cloak.



Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: TribalBob on March 12, 2023, 09:08:44 PM
Web 3.0 has become bait in the past months and that's because people don't fully understand the concept, as OP mentioned, it's supposed to be for decentralized projects, but when people run a project with their own token while holding more than 20% of the total tokens, that's fully centralized. And that just brings more confusion about the Web 3.0 projects.

So, we can call it high-quality bait to attract new users.
I still don't know why many casinos even the ones that do require KYC do claim to be a web3 casino. That is very confusing to me. Do web3 has anything to do with KYC? I thought is more of decentralized way of gambling without a centralized world. Things are easily moving and the change is becoming constant.

I also think so, why do online gambling sites do kyc, even though as we know crypto is anonymous,
here I am taking the positive side of KYC in gambling, maybe the site owner wants to know the members in detail, although it is possible that the government will take over the data when it knows that its people play a big role in online gambling


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: TimeTeller on March 12, 2023, 09:20:37 PM
Web 3.0 has become bait in the past months and that's because people don't fully understand the concept, as OP mentioned, it's supposed to be for decentralized projects, but when people run a project with their own token while holding more than 20% of the total tokens, that's fully centralized. And that just brings more confusion about the Web 3.0 projects.

So, we can call it high-quality bait to attract new users.
I still don't know why many casinos even the ones that do require KYC do claim to be a web3 casino. That is very confusing to me. Do web3 has anything to do with KYC? I thought is more of decentralized way of gambling without a centralized world. Things are easily moving and the change is becoming constant.

I also think so, why do online gambling sites do kyc, even though as we know crypto is anonymous,
here I am taking the positive side of KYC in gambling, maybe the site owner wants to know the members in detail, although it is possible that the government will take over the data when it knows that its people play a big role in online gambling

It is not about the owner wanting to know the members in detail, but if they are planning to have license,
they need to require KYC from the players. However, if there's no license yet, there's no reason for them to oblige their players.
Web 3.0 platforms should operate on what they are promoting, users connected to a decentralized network.
If they require KYC and at the same time proud to be a web 3.0 site, then, something is wrong with the situation.
They are not truly a web 3 site but trying to emulate its concept. Players should doubt their motive on this regard.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on March 12, 2023, 09:33:06 PM
Web 3.0 has become bait in the past months and that's because people don't fully understand the concept, as OP mentioned, it's supposed to be for decentralized projects, but when people run a project with their own token while holding more than 20% of the total tokens, that's fully centralized. And that just brings more confusion about the Web 3.0 projects.

So, we can call it high-quality bait to attract new users.
I still don't know why many casinos even the ones that do require KYC do claim to be a web3 casino. That is very confusing to me. Do web3 has anything to do with KYC? I thought is more of decentralized way of gambling without a centralized world. Things are easily moving and the change is becoming constant.

I also think so, why do online gambling sites do kyc, even though as we know crypto is anonymous,
here I am taking the positive side of KYC in gambling, maybe the site owner wants to know the members in detail, although it is possible that the government will take over the data when it knows that its people play a big role in online gambling

It is not about the owner wanting to know the members in detail, but if they are planning to have license,
they need to require KYC from the players. However, if there's no license yet, there's no reason for them to oblige their players.
Web 3.0 platforms should operate on what they are promoting, users connected to a decentralized network.
If they require KYC and at the same time proud to be a web 3.0 site, then, something is wrong with the situation.
But it's rather unfortunate that some of the web 3.0 casinos I know are not actually doing what they preach.
For me, I personally believe that a web 3 casino is not supposed to even have a licence, not to talk of having the ability to request kyc verification from their users.

In web 3, casino should be completely decentralized, with every single game hosted on chain, even in a way that the casino owners do not have access to the game code once the smart contract is deployed, this a a type of game that could keep running even after hundreds of years when the develops must have passed on.

So like I've said before, majority of casinos are now using the term web 3, as a means of advertising their casinos, not solely because the casino is a web 3 project.



Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hispo on March 13, 2023, 12:28:20 AM
These casinos are well informed than you may be thinking, these are gimmicks they use as part of market strategies and attractions to lure in many new users that might wanna pick interest or out of curiosity to know what the nomenclature web3.0 depicts for a casino, along the line they might end up registering with them becoming a new user and as such business is moving for them. See this as a way of manipulating gamblers at all cost to their site but it's better they obviously make it known to the gambler from the initial that they're KYC oriented instead of doing so in a cloak.


It funny some gambler with any kind of experience would rather to join a "web 3.0" casino, without knowing what W3.0 is, rather than doing their own research. W3.0 by definition is about decentralization and managing a service through one's private/public keys, etc.

If they took a few minutes to read about all this, they would spot something weird would be going own as soon as the casino asked for an email, username or password. An actual decentralized app/service does not need anything but to know the public keys of their users to work.

But because it is just an advertisement gimmick, sadly many will have an unpleasant experience with KYC.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: tusandii on March 13, 2023, 01:59:37 AM
I also think so, why do online gambling sites do kyc, even though as we know crypto is anonymous,
here I am taking the positive side of KYC in gambling, maybe the site owner wants to know the members in detail, although it is possible that the government will take over the data when it knows that its people play a big role in online gambling
Regarding crypto is anonymous, I agree because maintaining our identity is very important for the security of the crypto assets that we have.
About crypto casinos asking for KYC requirements actually not because casino owners want to know their customers in detail but because there are demands from the license used by casinos that require KYC requirements for each casino customer itself.
It seems impossible for the government to take over data for their interests because many people play a big role in gambling because it is impossible for casinos to easily allow the data of their customers to be leaked and taken over even though it is the government that is taking over.
In fact, the government will not dare to interfere in casino or gambling issues if the casino already has a clear license and the government also gets their share of the tax fee so that it will be detrimental to the government if it gets too involved in gambling issues.
In this era, everything can be solved with money, so you don't need to worry too much.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: coinerer on March 13, 2023, 02:39:55 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
In the web3 technology a gambler does not have to register an account only on the website.  In this case, connecting a wallet will create an account automatically and That wallet will be the access key to that site. But if that casino site is licensed then you must complete kyc to place high quality bets or claim high amount there like other casino sites. Here you will get the benefit of Quick Access only through Wallet Connected. that is the point


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: slapper on March 13, 2023, 03:18:40 AM
After the emergence of this cryptocurrency all over the world.The same was implemented in the gambling and casino.Most of the crypto currency based on casino was emerged after 2020.As you said the Kyc verification of this website was understandable one.So if anyone required to do kyc for this kindly follow the method.Many people using the gambling site to launder of money.Many people get into crypto gambling now and they don’t know to market on crypto currency forum.This forum is best to market for the crypto gambling and casino.Bitcoin is the accepted one in most of crypto gambling.
Technology's impact on society and life is intriguing. Crypto gaming is one way we're adopting new technologies. We can make these sites safe and secure for everyone with adequate rules and KYC verification. These sites accept Bitcoin the most. Yet other cryptocurrencies are also gaining traction. I'm delighted folks are taking advantage of the exciting crypto community. Crypto gaming is a new social tool that helps us connect in new and fascinating ways.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Strongkored on March 13, 2023, 03:56:13 AM
We can see that new technologies that emerge are often used as a way to attract a lot of people interested in using the platform but in reality none of these new technologies are implemented they just take the name of something that is trending.
But we can't question that because maybe the casino uses the term web 3.0 because it refers to another definition of web 3.0 but actually it's not pure web 3.0 and as long as they don't cheat i think its ok to take.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: kotajikikox on March 13, 2023, 04:19:57 AM
We can see that new technologies that emerge are often used as a way to attract a lot of people interested in using the platform but in reality none of these new technologies are implemented they just take the name of something that is trending.
But we can't question that because maybe the casino uses the term web 3.0 because it refers to another definition of web 3.0 but actually it's not pure web 3.0 and as long as they don't cheat i think its ok to take.
that is how advertising moves mate , they wanted to show people about their being updated or having new offering but the truth is they only have the same what others has and existing to those sites.
wondering how we can relate on this when it is obvious when we go around each site and look for those kind of strategy .
if we are not new to this area then we understand that this happens sometimes if not rampantly .


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: len01 on March 13, 2023, 05:27:43 AM
We can see that new technologies that emerge are often used as a way to attract a lot of people interested in using the platform but in reality none of these new technologies are implemented they just take the name of something that is trending.
But we can't question that because maybe the casino uses the term web 3.0 because it refers to another definition of web 3.0 but actually it's not pure web 3.0 and as long as they don't cheat i think its ok to take.
sometimes gambling companies do advertising by means of current hype. I mean as we know that every gambling company or any other company that as a whole they do advertising in any way that can attract the attention of their customers to enter the industry. as currently is web3 hype and every company will simultaneously use these keywords to attract the attention of new prospects.

this is actually already part of the way that has been done for a long time. but sometimes someone doesn't understand how the ad works and doesn't do research in the ad. the regret is that if companies use currently hyped ads like web3 and don't implement the plan as advertised, it will only be like an indirect scam.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: gunhell16 on March 13, 2023, 07:12:51 AM
We can see that new technologies that emerge are often used as a way to attract a lot of people interested in using the platform but in reality none of these new technologies are implemented they just take the name of something that is trending.
But we can't question that because maybe the casino uses the term web 3.0 because it refers to another definition of web 3.0 but actually it's not pure web 3.0 and as long as they don't cheat i think its ok to take.
sometimes gambling companies do advertising by means of current hype. I mean as we know that every gambling company or any other company that as a whole they do advertising in any way that can attract the attention of their customers to enter the industry. as currently is web3 hype and every company will simultaneously use these keywords to attract the attention of new prospects.

this is actually already part of the way that has been done for a long time. but sometimes someone doesn't understand how the ad works and doesn't do research in the ad. the regret is that if companies use currently hyped ads like web3 and don't implement the plan as advertised, it will only be like an indirect scam.

Using hyped methods is actually part of the business that will be built to get the attention of prospect clients on their platform. And this is normal for a casino to do, if web3 can help a casino and gamblers, why not?

But as you said, what has been announced should happen and should not disappoint the community that enters a cryptocurrency casino. Others even pay a lot so that well-known influencers can promote their casino platform.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Webetcoins on March 14, 2023, 04:44:23 AM
sometimes gambling companies do advertising by means of current hype. I mean as we know that every gambling company or any other company that as a whole they do advertising in any way that can attract the attention of their customers to enter the industry. as currently is web3 hype and every company will simultaneously use these keywords to attract the attention of new prospects.

this is actually already part of the way that has been done for a long time. but sometimes someone doesn't understand how the ad works and doesn't do research in the ad. the regret is that if companies use currently hyped ads like web3 and don't implement the plan as advertised, it will only be like an indirect scam.
Using hyped methods is actually part of the business that will be built to get the attention of prospect clients on their platform. And this is normal for a casino to do, if web3 can help a casino and gamblers, why not?

But as you said, what has been announced should happen and should not disappoint the community that enters a cryptocurrency casino. Others even pay a lot so that well-known influencers can promote their casino platform.
As far as I know, currently, there are no platforms that are actually utilizing web3. As you said, projects and platforms usually use the keywords or things that are hyped only to get better marketing and promote their services to a wider audience since these specific keywords are searched and surfed very often among the community.

When it comes to gambling, I think promos and bonuses have been the most used things for ads or marketing to attract users to a platform. A gambler can only change his gambling platform if he finds better bonuses and stuff on another.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: slapper on March 14, 2023, 04:08:53 PM
We can see that new technologies that emerge are often used as a way to attract a lot of people interested in using the platform but in reality none of these new technologies are implemented they just take the name of something that is trending.
But we can't question that because maybe the casino uses the term web 3.0 because it refers to another definition of web 3.0 but actually it's not pure web 3.0 and as long as they don't cheat i think its ok to take.
sometimes gambling companies do advertising by means of current hype. I mean as we know that every gambling company or any other company that as a whole they do advertising in any way that can attract the attention of their customers to enter the industry. as currently is web3 hype and every company will simultaneously use these keywords to attract the attention of new prospects.

this is actually already part of the way that has been done for a long time. but sometimes someone doesn't understand how the ad works and doesn't do research in the ad. the regret is that if companies use currently hyped ads like web3 and don't implement the plan as advertised, it will only be like an indirect scam.

Using hyped methods is actually part of the business that will be built to get the attention of prospect clients on their platform. And this is normal for a casino to do, if web3 can help a casino and gamblers, why not?

But as you said, what has been announced should happen and should not disappoint the community that enters a cryptocurrency casino. Others even pay a lot so that well-known influencers can promote their casino platform.
Be ready to hop on the bandwagon, for here we go again! Even while my skeptical side wonders if these strategies are worthwhile in the long term, I still can't help but become giddy about the prospects of a brand new bitcoin casino. Virtual currency gaming is a thrilling experience for everybody. Also, if web3 can increase our enthusiasm, then we should definitely give it a try. We'll either be rich beyond our wildest dreams thanks to the cryptocurrency boom or desperately poor. It's risky, but that's part of the thrill, right? Let's up the ante and see out where this ride leads us! Can we get a roll call?  :P :P


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: BVeyron on March 14, 2023, 04:31:26 PM
We can see that new technologies that emerge are often used as a way to attract a lot of people interested in using the platform but in reality none of these new technologies are implemented they just take the name of something that is trending.
But we can't question that because maybe the casino uses the term web 3.0 because it refers to another definition of web 3.0 but actually it's not pure web 3.0 and as long as they don't cheat i think its ok to take.
sometimes gambling companies do advertising by means of current hype. I mean as we know that every gambling company or any other company that as a whole they do advertising in any way that can attract the attention of their customers to enter the industry. as currently is web3 hype and every company will simultaneously use these keywords to attract the attention of new prospects.

this is actually already part of the way that has been done for a long time. but sometimes someone doesn't understand how the ad works and doesn't do research in the ad. the regret is that if companies use currently hyped ads like web3 and don't implement the plan as advertised, it will only be like an indirect scam.

Using hyped methods is actually part of the business that will be built to get the attention of prospect clients on their platform. And this is normal for a casino to do, if web3 can help a casino and gamblers, why not?

But as you said, what has been announced should happen and should not disappoint the community that enters a cryptocurrency casino. Others even pay a lot so that well-known influencers can promote their casino platform.
Be ready to hop on the bandwagon, for here we go again! Even while my skeptical side wonders if these strategies are worthwhile in the long term, I still can't help but become giddy about the prospects of a brand new bitcoin casino. Virtual currency gaming is a thrilling experience for everybody. Also, if web3 can increase our enthusiasm, then we should definitely give it a try. We'll either be rich beyond our wildest dreams thanks to the cryptocurrency boom or desperately poor. It's risky, but that's part of the thrill, right? Let's up the ante and see out where this ride leads us! Can we get a roll call?  :P :P
There is a real hype compound in web 3.0, since gambling thrill can be experienced with any casino,  it doesnt matter which digit goes after its web, also it can even be not web at all. So gambling experience in web 3.0 casino would be the same as that in usual casino, the main thing that matters is stability of browser or app version, while it strongly depends on amount of data downloaded and uploaded, while this aspect is not a good side of cryptographed codes...


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: speedy963 on March 14, 2023, 05:06:15 PM
As per experience, the longer the site exists the buggier and more traffic it gets. One of the reason is because of the increase of users. That is why I understand people who would say no matter what platform is it as long as it is running smoothly that's all they needed.

There're lots of sites claiming to be "web 3" when they are not and if you're someone who's been constantly on the internet, you can spot them immediately. Not that I personally care about that because that's their own marketing strategy, but it's somehow bad because the term has been used specially to attract people to make it sound more technical/modern, and it also ruined the concept of web 3. Mostly newbies thought that it is cool to be part of that but as time goes by they will lose interest because more and more platforms show the same ideas and offers although it isn't even web 3. I agree with the OP saying it could be misunderstood specially with new users thinking it's new, not knowing that's not the real thing.

We should also know that people nowadays gets bored easily, so even if they attract more users on that marketing strategy eventually they'd get bored and try new things that aren't common to them.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: virasog on March 14, 2023, 05:41:52 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

You have just revealed the truth. Yes, most of the gambling casino are using the word Web 3.0 as a marketing tool to present the world that their casino is Web 3.0 complaint. Since many gamblers do not know exactly what is Web 3.0, they assume that whatever the casinos are claiming is truth and hence the gambling casino are fooling people.

These casinos still operates on web 2.0 model but they use these terms only to create the hype and attract more gamblers to their site.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ScamViruS on March 14, 2023, 05:56:55 PM
Using hyped methods is actually part of the business that will be built to get the attention of prospect clients on their platform. And this is normal for a casino to do, if web3 can help a casino and gamblers, why not?

Every company wants to exploit the current trends to reach their company to their target customers in the fastest time. Gambling companies also do marketing in the same way. Web3 is a trending thing these days, so it is natural that gambling websites are trying to make the most of that trend.

In the coming days more and more hot trends will be introduced with AI, I wouldn't be surprised if gambling websites will also use the AI ​​trend for marketing.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: danadc on March 14, 2023, 08:20:48 PM
Using hyped methods is actually part of the business that will be built to get the attention of prospect clients on their platform. And this is normal for a casino to do, if web3 can help a casino and gamblers, why not?

Every company wants to exploit the current trends to reach their company to their target customers in the fastest time. Gambling companies also do marketing in the same way. Web3 is a trending thing these days, so it is natural that gambling websites are trying to make the most of that trend.

In the coming days more and more hot trends will be introduced with AI, I wouldn't be surprised if gambling websites will also use the AI ​​trend for marketing.
I was also thinking about that part to promote the casinos, many will use the AI to make promotions and launch them on all social networks, as well as have the options to be able to advise regarding games, they can also make them do good things in favor of grow a casino, and how is the use of AI prohibited in a casino so that it can become stronger, but should players be prohibited from using AI in casinos? but the AI that I have seen does not have prediction functions, only to ask questions and answer, others have the functions of drawing.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ScamViruS on March 14, 2023, 08:32:21 PM
Using hyped methods is actually part of the business that will be built to get the attention of prospect clients on their platform. And this is normal for a casino to do, if web3 can help a casino and gamblers, why not?

Every company wants to exploit the current trends to reach their company to their target customers in the fastest time. Gambling companies also do marketing in the same way. Web3 is a trending thing these days, so it is natural that gambling websites are trying to make the most of that trend.

In the coming days more and more hot trends will be introduced with AI, I wouldn't be surprised if gambling websites will also use the AI ​​trend for marketing.
I was also thinking about that part to promote the casinos, many will use the AI to make promotions and launch them on all social networks, as well as have the options to be able to advise regarding games, they can also make them do good things in favor of grow a casino, and how is the use of AI prohibited in a casino so that it can become stronger, but should players be prohibited from using AI in casinos? but the AI that I have seen does not have prediction functions, only to ask questions and answer, others have the functions of drawing.


Although the use of AI in casinos may be prohibited for gamblers, it is entirely up to the casino team to decide on this matter. The company that can be the first to use the trending new system properly and take extra advantage is the one that stays ahead. AI cannot predict the future, so it remains to be seen whether AI will be banned from being used in casinos.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hamphser on March 14, 2023, 09:52:28 PM
Using hyped methods is actually part of the business that will be built to get the attention of prospect clients on their platform. And this is normal for a casino to do, if web3 can help a casino and gamblers, why not?

Every company wants to exploit the current trends to reach their company to their target customers in the fastest time. Gambling companies also do marketing in the same way. Web3 is a trending thing these days, so it is natural that gambling websites are trying to make the most of that trend.

In the coming days more and more hot trends will be introduced with AI, I wouldn't be surprised if gambling websites will also use the AI ​​trend for marketing.
I was also thinking about that part to promote the casinos, many will use the AI to make promotions and launch them on all social networks, as well as have the options to be able to advise regarding games, they can also make them do good things in favor of grow a casino, and how is the use of AI prohibited in a casino so that it can become stronger, but should players be prohibited from using AI in casinos? but the AI that I have seen does not have prediction functions, only to ask questions and answer, others have the functions of drawing.


Although the use of AI in casinos may be prohibited for gamblers, it is entirely up to the casino team to decide on this matter. The company that can be the first to use the trending new system properly and take extra advantage is the one that stays ahead. AI cannot predict the future, so it remains to be seen whether AI will be banned from being used in casinos.
They would be definitely be banning it if ever that they do see some significant decrease in terms of revenue and suspicious that this might involved some AI but we know the fact that it cant just be possible.

Things turns out to be tested but cant really be proven out that it would really be giving out that kind of effect which leaves gamblers to be profitable.It is really just that impossible that it would really be
that effective.For those sites who are mentioned on OP trying out to claim on something but obviously it wasnt really that web 3.0 then people arent that dumb not to notice or able to know it.
Which it would be resulting about being that deceiving kind of company which would eventually lost up community trust which we know that it is really bad for the business.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ScamViruS on March 14, 2023, 10:02:46 PM
They would be definitely be banning it if ever that they do see some significant decrease in terms of revenue and suspicious that this might involved some AI but we know the fact that it cant just be possible.

True. If a gambler is being taken advantage of using AI, casinos will take action against that gambler's account by marking it as suspicious activity. Casinos are very serious about their revenue, there are several cases where even legal winning bets are marked as suspicious. So they will pay more attention to AI, and another option will be for them to prevent gamblers from winning too much. Let's see what other updates come in the coming days for casino owners and gamblers.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: GxSTxV on March 14, 2023, 10:17:49 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
I believe it is simply a trick to attract people for joining. Unfortunately Web3.0 websites should be completely decentralized and never request any user information. Asking for a KYC process is even worse. I have seen token projects that have nothing to do with casinos, and yet they require your documents to be used or to sign up.
This is not a misunderstanding imo but rather a way of promoting and tricking users into their services. Personally, I prefer websites that use Dapps. These are very easy to use and allow for buying, trading, or gambling in just a few seconds, without even opening an account. Simply using MetaMask or other wallets is enough.
I would like to see more casinos using Dapps that truly deserve to be called Web3.0 casinos


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hamphser on March 14, 2023, 11:25:56 PM
They would be definitely be banning it if ever that they do see some significant decrease in terms of revenue and suspicious that this might involved some AI but we know the fact that it cant just be possible.

True. If a gambler is being taken advantage of using AI, casinos will take action against that gambler's account by marking it as suspicious activity. Casinos are very serious about their revenue, there are several cases where even legal winning bets are marked as suspicious. So they will pay more attention to AI, and another option will be for them to prevent gamblers from winning too much. Let's see what other updates come in the coming days for casino owners and gamblers.
There would be no updates since this system doesnt really work on the first place.This is why to those people who do claim that it is really indeed working then its just a lie or simply it is really just a coincidence

that they did make some winning bets on the time they do make use of AI but actually it is really just that luck do plays a major part when it comes to this and they do just simply tie it up and put up into their minds that using AI was relevant. There's no such thing on this world could able to know on whats happening in the future or events that would be still happening unless if its rigged or fixed then this is where
outcome and results been concluded.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: btc78 on March 15, 2023, 01:19:01 AM
As per experience, the longer the site exists the buggier and more traffic it gets. One of the reason is because of the increase of users. That is why I understand people who would say no matter what platform is it as long as it is running smoothly that's all they needed.
I also find it normal for the long running casino to have more users but the increase in Bugs? i believe that it will be lessen as time goes by because players will keep reporting and some has Bug hunting event to take all out.
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We should also know that people nowadays gets bored easily, so even if they attract more users on that marketing strategy eventually they'd get bored and try new things that aren't common to them.
but in gambling what are new that can be offered? and also boredom in gamblers only comes when they kept losing mate but if they are winning? who would feel bored?


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: speedy963 on March 15, 2023, 03:53:29 AM
As per experience, the longer the site exists the buggier and more traffic it gets. One of the reason is because of the increase of users. That is why I understand people who would say no matter what platform is it as long as it is running smoothly that's all they needed.
I also find it normal for the long running casino to have more users but the increase in Bugs? i believe that it will be lessen as time goes by because players will keep reporting and some has Bug hunting event to take all out.
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We should also know that people nowadays gets bored easily, so even if they attract more users on that marketing strategy eventually they'd get bored and try new things that aren't common to them.
but in gambling what are new that can be offered? and also boredom in gamblers only comes when they kept losing mate but if they are winning? who would feel bored?
Exactly! But there're only few stories about those people who are constantly winning, instead there are bunch of stories you hear from every gambling platform about them wanting to gain back what they lost. The other day one of my acquaintance lost around $5,000 in just a few minutes in playing slots. Though it isn't that much for other people, here in my country it's already considered a lot. Some of us who were even watching him play told him to stop playing already after winning $2,000, but he didn't listen to us.

Now what he has in his mind is to regain it back coz he regretted it for being greedy. Though it is irrelevant  to being bored, once he reach the point where he could control his emotions like he did in the past coz I've known him for being a gambler, for sure he'll get bored on that game and will try to look for a new one. It's just us who regrets that big amount to be honest.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: coinerer on March 15, 2023, 04:22:00 AM
As per experience, the longer the site exists the buggier and more traffic it gets. One of the reason is because of the increase of users. That is why I understand people who would say no matter what platform is it as long as it is running smoothly that's all they needed.
I also find it normal for the long running casino to have more users but the increase in Bugs? i believe that it will be lessen as time goes by because players will keep reporting and some has Bug hunting event to take all out.
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We should also know that people nowadays gets bored easily, so even if they attract more users on that marketing strategy eventually they'd get bored and try new things that aren't common to them.
but in gambling what are new that can be offered? and also boredom in gamblers only comes when they kept losing mate but if they are winning? who would feel bored?
Exactly! But there're only few stories about those people who are constantly winning, instead there are bunch of stories you hear from every gambling platform about them wanting to gain back what they lost. The other day one of my acquaintance lost around $5,000 in just a few minutes in playing slots. Though it isn't that much for other people, here in my country it's already considered a lot. Some of us who were even watching him play told him to stop playing already after winning $2,000, but he didn't listen to us.

Now what he has in his mind is to regain it back coz he regretted it for being greedy. Though it is irrelevant  to being bored, once he reach the point where he could control his emotions like he did in the past coz I've known him for being a gambler, for sure he'll get bored on that game and will try to look for a new one. It's just us who regrets that big amount to be honest.
It is not possible to win constantly at gambling even if he is a professional gambler. And it becomes more difficult when one plays games such as slots, dice, plinko etc. But games like sportsbet, blackjack etc are somewhat predictable and professional bettors and those who understand them win most of the time but even here it is not 100% sure that every bet will win. So start gambling thinking about the constant reward from gambling.  And choosing it as a profession is a big foolish. So gambling should always be taken as fun


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: speedy963 on March 15, 2023, 04:52:14 AM
As per experience, the longer the site exists the buggier and more traffic it gets. One of the reason is because of the increase of users. That is why I understand people who would say no matter what platform is it as long as it is running smoothly that's all they needed.
I also find it normal for the long running casino to have more users but the increase in Bugs? i believe that it will be lessen as time goes by because players will keep reporting and some has Bug hunting event to take all out.
Quote
We should also know that people nowadays gets bored easily, so even if they attract more users on that marketing strategy eventually they'd get bored and try new things that aren't common to them.
but in gambling what are new that can be offered? and also boredom in gamblers only comes when they kept losing mate but if they are winning? who would feel bored?
Exactly! But there're only few stories about those people who are constantly winning, instead there are bunch of stories you hear from every gambling platform about them wanting to gain back what they lost. The other day one of my acquaintance lost around $5,000 in just a few minutes in playing slots. Though it isn't that much for other people, here in my country it's already considered a lot. Some of us who were even watching him play told him to stop playing already after winning $2,000, but he didn't listen to us.

Now what he has in his mind is to regain it back coz he regretted it for being greedy. Though it is irrelevant  to being bored, once he reach the point where he could control his emotions like he did in the past coz I've known him for being a gambler, for sure he'll get bored on that game and will try to look for a new one. It's just us who regrets that big amount to be honest.
It is not possible to win constantly at gambling even if he is a professional gambler. And it becomes more difficult when one plays games such as slots, dice, plinko etc. But games like sportsbet, blackjack etc are somewhat predictable and professional bettors and those who understand them win most of the time but even here it is not 100% sure that every bet will win. So start gambling thinking about the constant reward from gambling.  And choosing it as a profession is a big foolish. So gambling should always be taken as fun
Agree. I'd rather bet on those things I can see like sports and E-sports than making a profession as an analyst on those unpredictable games like slots and dices.

Here in my country, due to gambling being illegal. People even in my area are inventing ways to gamble, they'd even play on some suspicious sites as long as they can bet, and mostly those bets not that expensive so even a regular person could bet and it's easier to understand, rather than betting at the online casinos in which it requires understanding and a bit costly, they'll just choose this even if it means they heavily rely on luck.

That friend of mine that I mentioned above also won last week on this small bets in our area and it's also quite big enough to be considered a small win. The only gamble that is legal in our country is those e-games that are legally registered and those lotteries. Other than that the rest is already not recognized.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: redsun114 on March 15, 2023, 02:58:55 PM
Using hyped methods is actually part of the business that will be built to get the attention of prospect clients on their platform. And this is normal for a casino to do, if web3 can help a casino and gamblers, why not?
Every company wants to exploit the current trends to reach their company to their target customers in the fastest time. Gambling companies also do marketing in the same way. Web3 is a trending thing these days, so it is natural that gambling websites are trying to make the most of that trend.

In the coming days more and more hot trends will be introduced with AI, I wouldn't be surprised if gambling websites will also use the AI ​​trend for marketing.
Not sure about gambling but a lot of projects actually are already using AI for the sole purpose of marketing and a higher reach since they understand that it is a trending keyword at the moment. Because of the success of ChatGPT, AI is one of the most searched keywords right now and the numbers are increasing over time.

So yeah, it's true that projects and platforms use trends in their names, projects, or promotional material to get more exposure than normal, and it has become a primary marketing technique within the blockchain industry these days.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: BenCodie on March 15, 2023, 07:43:06 PM
As others have said, it's a bit of a marketing gimmick. The only thing a lot of these websites feature are the ability to sign in with wallet connection, which means the sign up process/account registration is removed from the process and you can deposit/withdraw a little easier than casinos that require you to paste your address. In terms of the games, wagers, fund storage, hosting etc. I think that it is still more centralized than it is centralized.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Fortify on March 15, 2023, 07:49:06 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

The thing with buzzwords like "web 3.0" is they can have a broad meaning and are used by many "entrepreneurs" to sell their projects to angel investors. People are always looking for the next "it" thing or hype train to jump on, as it often draws a lot of money in if you time it just right. There seems to be a conflict between even your understanding of how it would work - if it's decentralized then in theory no single entity controls it and that means it would be impossible to provide KYC documentation, who is even the company and customer in that scenario? It's an interesting thought, keeping any profits solely between two peers, but somebody will at least have to get paid transaction fees to make it worthwhile to secure.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ScamViruS on March 15, 2023, 08:27:39 PM
Using hyped methods is actually part of the business that will be built to get the attention of prospect clients on their platform. And this is normal for a casino to do, if web3 can help a casino and gamblers, why not?
Every company wants to exploit the current trends to reach their company to their target customers in the fastest time. Gambling companies also do marketing in the same way. Web3 is a trending thing these days, so it is natural that gambling websites are trying to make the most of that trend.

In the coming days more and more hot trends will be introduced with AI, I wouldn't be surprised if gambling websites will also use the AI ​​trend for marketing.
Not sure about gambling but a lot of projects actually are already using AI for the sole purpose of marketing and a higher reach since they understand that it is a trending keyword at the moment. Because of the success of ChatGPT, AI is one of the most searched keywords right now and the numbers are increasing over time.

So yeah, it's true that projects and platforms use trends in their names, projects, or promotional material to get more exposure than normal, and it has become a primary marketing technique within the blockchain industry these days.

There is a lot of interest among people about AI, which is why everyone is searching for information about AI. And companies are using those keywords to build strong positions for their projects.

Gambling websites are also very difficult to promote, so they continue to promote using the trend. Because the companies that can use the current trends in the best way can get the best results and they get growth faster than the competitors.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: dezoel on March 15, 2023, 08:38:03 PM
It is not about the owner wanting to know the members in detail, but if they are planning to have license,
they need to require KYC from the players. However, if there's no license yet, there's no reason for them to oblige their players.
Web 3.0 platforms should operate on what they are promoting, users connected to a decentralized network.
If they require KYC and at the same time proud to be a web 3.0 site, then, something is wrong with the situation.
They are not truly a web 3 site but trying to emulate its concept. Players should doubt their motive on this regard.
Why not? I think this was one of the purpose of KYC and it wouldn't be called as KYC or know your customer for no reason. The site must know that their customers are clean and free from illegalities before so that the casino and its other customers are going to be safe. The casino can get license first and its license issuer are the ones who demands KYC to the casino then the casino demands KYC to its customers.

Casino still has the right to enforce their own rules because it was their site and we are just a player but we can back out if we do not want to deal with the KYC thing. Now that we are now aware that web3 isn't really decentralized, we shouldn't wonder anymore on why some still asks a KYC.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Odusko on March 15, 2023, 08:41:22 PM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 15, 2023, 10:45:13 PM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.

I definitely agree with you. With the recent developments and software updates, online gambling casinos are adapting to this kind of change to provide their users the best experience on their design and UI for their clients.

I do think that there are lots of online casino platforms nowadays and it is somehow difficult to distinguish one from another. The only distinguishing factor that majority of the people use is the amount of bonuses each give; but they somehow fail to realize the platforms and technology to develop such.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: sunsilk on March 15, 2023, 10:57:04 PM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.
They do follow the trend so that they can provide what's the demand is asking them through their customers. But not all of the casinos are following the trend, as long as they keep up with their customers need and demand, they're all good with that.

As change matters to the many, there will be casinos that will always be open to changes and adoption of the following trend.

All they're up to is to give their customers the best experience that they can but let's see if until when this trend of web3 and metaverse will last because by looking at its situation, it won't be that much longer as expecte before.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: CryptSafe on March 16, 2023, 09:50:03 AM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.
They do follow the trend so that they can provide what's the demand is asking them through their customers. But not all of the casinos are following the trend, as long as they keep up with their customers need and demand, they're all good with that.

As change matters to the many, there will be casinos that will always be open to changes and adoption of the following trend.
All they're up to is to give their customers the best experience that they can but let's see if until when this trend of web3 and metaverse will last because by looking at its situation, it won't be that much longer as expecte before.
Continues development is instrumental to the success of every casino. If as a case, they follow up with the current trend and render optimum Service to their customers, I see no reason why they would not be patronized. As far as I am concerned, development and change is dynamic and if you must remain relevant in the casino space, you will have to be up and doings in the current trend of casino development and innovations. Casinos that does that are buzzed up with traffic and that is what gamblers want the more you flow with the current trend to offer maximum satisfaction to your clients, the more turn up you get to your product which means you are rendering good Services to the people. Gamblers are very sensitive to their complaints, opinions and contributions. They see if truly casinos do hid to their contributions and complaints but if not they run away from that casino when it seems obvious that their complaints are not properly looked into. Like I always say that customer care service is more of a power house to casinos and organisations in general. If you must succeed in the competitive  race, you must be outstanding with a good customer service care department.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: michellee on March 16, 2023, 10:40:03 AM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.

I definitely agree with you. With the recent developments and software updates, online gambling casinos are adapting to this kind of change to provide their users the best experience on their design and UI for their clients.

I do think that there are lots of online casino platforms nowadays and it is somehow difficult to distinguish one from another. The only distinguishing factor that majority of the people use is the amount of bonuses each give; but they somehow fail to realize the platforms and technology to develop such.
Adopting a new trend is a breakthrough for a casino so that it can continue to operate and develop its business to become bigger. But they don't have to follow web 3 trends that may not have had much of an impact on their casino yet. But they can ask for advice from their members first so they are not wrong in following the new trend. Sometimes a new trend won't last long because, behind the new trend, other new trends are waiting that can attract more people's attention.

As long as the casino can still provide attractive promos for people and many people play gambling at their place, the casino can still compete well even though the casino has not followed the new trend. Maybe in the gambling business, a casino doesn't need to follow new trends but how can a casino create new trends to be followed by other casinos and this is a difficult thing to do.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: len01 on March 16, 2023, 11:18:47 AM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.
and more precisely on new casinos following current trends like web3.
however, casinos that adopt web3 as a current trend are sometimes just for advertising only without fully complying with the web3 protocol. as has happened web3 casinos usually they do not ask for KYC for withdrawals of any amount but there are also web3 casinos which in the end ask their customers to do KYC when they want to withdraw large amounts of funds.

so sometimes the current trends of the casino business don't really implement the web3 protocol and are just advertisements or keywords so that customers who are seeing this kind of trend try at the casino.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: death69 on March 16, 2023, 02:58:55 PM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.

I definitely agree with you. With the recent developments and software updates, online gambling casinos are adapting to this kind of change to provide their users the best experience on their design and UI for their clients.

I do think that there are lots of online casino platforms nowadays and it is somehow difficult to distinguish one from another. The only distinguishing factor that majority of the people use is the amount of bonuses each give; but they somehow fail to realize the platforms and technology to develop such.
Adopting a new trend is a breakthrough for a casino so that it can continue to operate and develop its business to become bigger. But they don't have to follow web 3 trends that may not have had much of an impact on their casino yet. But they can ask for advice from their members first so they are not wrong in following the new trend. Sometimes a new trend won't last long because, behind the new trend, other new trends are waiting that can attract more people's attention.

As long as the casino can still provide attractive promos for people and many people play gambling at their place, the casino can still compete well even though the casino has not followed the new trend. Maybe in the gambling business, a casino doesn't need to follow new trends but how can a casino create new trends to be followed by other casinos and this is a difficult thing to do.
Ah yes, the old "follow the herd" mentality. Boring! Personally, I like to pave my own path. That's why I've been wearing Crocs for years, even before they were cool. And now look at me, a trendsetter!

But I digress, back to the casino. I say they should jump on that web 3 train! Who needs stability and reliability when you can have the latest and greatest? Plus, think of all the cool gadgets they can use with the blockchain. I'm talking about virtual reality blackjack, baby!

But I guess if they want to play it safe, they can stick to their old ways. Who needs innovation anyway? Just because they're not following the new trends doesn't mean they can't create their own. They just need to think outside the box, like creating a slot machine that dispenses tacos. Genius, I know.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Dunamisx on March 16, 2023, 04:10:22 PM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.

We have been having different encounters with the newly established casinos that were coming onboard with different approaches from what gamblers have been used to and these makes them to have more edge in getting more gamblers than the long time existing casinos, now that everything is revolving round about the metaverse and web3, there have been alot of competition even among the casinos because everyone want to make a difference in other to pull out gamblers in having interest from what they offers.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: klidex on March 16, 2023, 05:51:05 PM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.

We have been having different encounters with the newly established casinos that were coming onboard with different approaches from what gamblers have been used to and these makes them to have more edge in getting more gamblers than the long time existing casinos, now that everything is revolving round about the metaverse and web3, there have been alot of competition even among the casinos because everyone want to make a difference in other to pull out gamblers in having interest from what they offers.
It seems like new casinos like web 3.0 casinos will not be able to overtake the old casinos that are popular today and they are just a fad.
Even though the trend or hype will pass quickly as a trend is only temporary and will soon be rivaled by new hype that will appear in the coming year.
So a new casino that uses the current hype like web 3.0 will not be able to take over the position of the old casino and will not be able to snatch customers from the old casino to move to the new model casino.
Even though there will be many who will be curious about this new casino model, they are only temporary and will definitely return to the old casino which in my opinion is more comfortable and attractive.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Fatunad on March 16, 2023, 11:04:32 PM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.

We have been having different encounters with the newly established casinos that were coming onboard with different approaches from what gamblers have been used to and these makes them to have more edge in getting more gamblers than the long time existing casinos, now that everything is revolving round about the metaverse and web3, there have been alot of competition even among the casinos because everyone want to make a difference in other to pull out gamblers in having interest from what they offers.
It seems like new casinos like web 3.0 casinos will not be able to overtake the old casinos that are popular today and they are just a fad.
Even though the trend or hype will pass quickly as a trend is only temporary and will soon be rivaled by new hype that will appear in the coming year.
So a new casino that uses the current hype like web 3.0 will not be able to take over the position of the old casino and will not be able to snatch customers from the old casino to move to the new model casino.
Even though there will be many who will be curious about this new casino model, they are only temporary and will definitely return to the old casino which in my opinion is more comfortable and attractive.
The fact that there are still no sites who do applied that 3.0 that what others been claiming.It hadnt been proven out and yet if there's one then its true that there's no way that they could eradicate those current
existing famous gambling sites that we do have as of today.It would be possible but not really that likely to happen, there's still need lots of recognition and consideration on the gambling community.
Sites who do proclaim out who does have that but it wasnt really that honest then trust issues would be raised and its not something that good for a business
who are just starting up. Deceiving isnt the good idea if we do talk about start up.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: slapper on March 17, 2023, 03:58:37 AM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.

We have been having different encounters with the newly established casinos that were coming onboard with different approaches from what gamblers have been used to and these makes them to have more edge in getting more gamblers than the long time existing casinos, now that everything is revolving round about the metaverse and web3, there have been alot of competition even among the casinos because everyone want to make a difference in other to pull out gamblers in having interest from what they offers.
It seems like new casinos like web 3.0 casinos will not be able to overtake the old casinos that are popular today and they are just a fad.
Even though the trend or hype will pass quickly as a trend is only temporary and will soon be rivaled by new hype that will appear in the coming year.
So a new casino that uses the current hype like web 3.0 will not be able to take over the position of the old casino and will not be able to snatch customers from the old casino to move to the new model casino.
Even though there will be many who will be curious about this new casino model, they are only temporary and will definitely return to the old casino which in my opinion is more comfortable and attractive.
The allure of a web3 casino is undeniable, yet humans, as creatures of habit, often gravitate towards the familiar. Intriguing, isn't it, how we're drawn to the known, even when faced with the potential of something superior? While web 3.0 casinos may not dethrone their traditional counterparts overnight, they could undoubtedly carve a niche for themselves.

In the vast tapestry of existence, all is fleeting, wouldn't you agree? Fads rise and fall, but the value they impart endures. True, some may dip their toes into web 3.0 casinos only to retreat to familiar haunts, but others may discover a fresh sanctuary in the groundbreaking technology web 3.0 proffers. Time, as always, shall be the arbiter.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: klidex on March 19, 2023, 01:57:28 PM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.

We have been having different encounters with the newly established casinos that were coming onboard with different approaches from what gamblers have been used to and these makes them to have more edge in getting more gamblers than the long time existing casinos, now that everything is revolving round about the metaverse and web3, there have been alot of competition even among the casinos because everyone want to make a difference in other to pull out gamblers in having interest from what they offers.
It seems like new casinos like web 3.0 casinos will not be able to overtake the old casinos that are popular today and they are just a fad.
Even though the trend or hype will pass quickly as a trend is only temporary and will soon be rivaled by new hype that will appear in the coming year.
So a new casino that uses the current hype like web 3.0 will not be able to take over the position of the old casino and will not be able to snatch customers from the old casino to move to the new model casino.
Even though there will be many who will be curious about this new casino model, they are only temporary and will definitely return to the old casino which in my opinion is more comfortable and attractive.
The allure of a web3 casino is undeniable, yet humans, as creatures of habit, often gravitate towards the familiar. Intriguing, isn't it, how we're drawn to the known, even when faced with the potential of something superior? While web 3.0 casinos may not dethrone their traditional counterparts overnight, they could undoubtedly carve a niche for themselves.

In the vast tapestry of existence, all is fleeting, wouldn't you agree? Fads rise and fall, but the value they impart endures. True, some may dip their toes into web 3.0 casinos only to retreat to familiar haunts, but others may discover a fresh sanctuary in the groundbreaking technology web 3.0 proffers. Time, as always, shall be the arbiter.
But if you are asked by someone, will you still choose a web 3.0 casino or choose an old casino that has had all kinds of games for a long time that always accompany you when you want to have fun at gambling?
I'm sure you will answer yes maybe try a few times in web 3.0 casinos but in the end you will return to your favorite casino that has given you pleasure and trust for a long time.
Of course there will always be new models of casinos following the current trends, but old casinos would be the best for me.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: BVeyron on March 28, 2023, 10:09:56 AM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.

We have been having different encounters with the newly established casinos that were coming onboard with different approaches from what gamblers have been used to and these makes them to have more edge in getting more gamblers than the long time existing casinos, now that everything is revolving round about the metaverse and web3, there have been alot of competition even among the casinos because everyone want to make a difference in other to pull out gamblers in having interest from what they offers.
It seems like new casinos like web 3.0 casinos will not be able to overtake the old casinos that are popular today and they are just a fad.
Even though the trend or hype will pass quickly as a trend is only temporary and will soon be rivaled by new hype that will appear in the coming year.
So a new casino that uses the current hype like web 3.0 will not be able to take over the position of the old casino and will not be able to snatch customers from the old casino to move to the new model casino.
Even though there will be many who will be curious about this new casino model, they are only temporary and will definitely return to the old casino which in my opinion is more comfortable and attractive.
The allure of a web3 casino is undeniable, yet humans, as creatures of habit, often gravitate towards the familiar. Intriguing, isn't it, how we're drawn to the known, even when faced with the potential of something superior? While web 3.0 casinos may not dethrone their traditional counterparts overnight, they could undoubtedly carve a niche for themselves.

In the vast tapestry of existence, all is fleeting, wouldn't you agree? Fads rise and fall, but the value they impart endures. True, some may dip their toes into web 3.0 casinos only to retreat to familiar haunts, but others may discover a fresh sanctuary in the groundbreaking technology web 3.0 proffers. Time, as always, shall be the arbiter.
But if you are asked by someone, will you still choose a web 3.0 casino or choose an old casino that has had all kinds of games for a long time that always accompany you when you want to have fun at gambling?
I'm sure you will answer yes maybe try a few times in web 3.0 casinos but in the end you will return to your favorite casino that has given you pleasure and trust for a long time.
Of course there will always be new models of casinos following the current trends, but old casinos would be the best for me.

Well-established casinos are always in favor, so Web3.0 is not something that would improve service quality, since casino quality depends, first of all, on leagues they work with, and, second thing, is stability of browser or app interface. That's why web 3.0 is more interesting for coders, than for users.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: btc78 on March 28, 2023, 10:36:40 AM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.
and more precisely on new casinos following current trends like web3.
however, casinos that adopt web3 as a current trend are sometimes just for advertising only without fully complying with the web3 protocol. as has happened web3 casinos usually they do not ask for KYC for withdrawals of any amount but there are also web3 casinos which in the end ask their customers to do KYC when they want to withdraw large amounts of funds.
web3 term has been abused now , there are many company that using the web3 just to lure investors and gamblers but in reality they are not.
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so sometimes the current trends of the casino business don't really implement the web3 protocol and are just advertisements or keywords so that customers who are seeing this kind of trend try at the casino.
exactly what is the reality mate, so best to look deeply in the site before putting trust though we are not fool to be trapped in those scam attempt or trying to sugar coat their site in back.



Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: piebeyb on March 28, 2023, 10:50:11 AM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.
Every casino must keep up with developing technological developments so that to become more advanced they will of course develop their casino to be better for convenience and add to the user experience of playing casino with web3 and metaverse technology, moreover many casinos are currently also very light and easy to access using only a mobile browser.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: speedy963 on March 28, 2023, 11:08:32 AM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.
Every casino must keep up with developing technological developments so that to become more advanced they will of course develop their casino to be better for convenience and add to the user experience of playing casino with web3 and metaverse technology, moreover many casinos are currently also very light and easy to access using only a mobile browser.
Of course they'd be going along with the web3 idea due to its popularity and also for marketing strategy. It is also much more convenient if everyone can easily access their platform anywhere and whenever the customer wants. To attract players to their platforms of course they will choose listen to suggestions or review given to them by their users, while some probably disliked it there will be few who will like the feature, but If I were to be asked about development, constantly changing it to ride the trend is also not good for the platform and also for the users. What a casino needs is for players to play comfortably not just for players to try out their new features.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Reatim on March 28, 2023, 11:12:16 AM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.
Every casino must keep up with developing technological developments so that to become more advanced they will of course develop their casino to be better for convenience and add to the user experience of playing casino with web3 and metaverse technology, moreover many casinos are currently also very light and easy to access using only a mobile browser.
the competition is tight , so best if they can bring new experience in every game they will offer so yes Web3 and other way must take place but also better to become true to their promise and not just going with the flow in popularity of web3 thing in gambling industry .


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Bushdark on March 28, 2023, 01:30:12 PM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.
It is very important for us to know that when it comes to the world of business, we must be ready for the competition that we may get from other partners or competitive companies like our own. The funny part is that many of these casinos want to bear the name of running there companies on web 3 basis. They want more gamblers on there platforms that is why we are seeing the competition of many of those KYC casinos claiming to be on web 3. We need to check web if truly they are or not if we are looking for a true web 3 casinos.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: slapper on March 28, 2023, 01:39:53 PM
~snip~
But if you are asked by someone, will you still choose a web 3.0 casino or choose an old casino that has had all kinds of games for a long time that always accompany you when you want to have fun at gambling?
I'm sure you will answer yes maybe try a few times in web 3.0 casinos but in the end you will return to your favorite casino that has given you pleasure and trust for a long time.
Of course there will always be new models of casinos following the current trends, but old casinos would be the best for me.
Peering into the future, it's intriguing to consider the potential metamorphosis of the gambling scene in the coming 10 or 20 years. Web 3.0 casinos could become the gold standard, while cutting-edge technologies like VR and AI may turn the tables on how we wager. But here's the burning question: will we continue to favor the timeworn casinos that have been with us for ages? My answer is a resounding yes! There's an undeniable, heartwarming appeal to these age-old gambling dens that modern casinos just can't recreate. The legacy, unforgettable moments, and unrivaled experiences they offer are truly beyond compare.

However, let's not forget that change is the one thing we can always count on. As technological progress marches on, so will our appetites and demands. Today's avant-garde casinos, embracing contemporary trends, could dish out unparalleled and electrifying experiences that classic casinos simply can't match. The key lies in discovering that sweet spot between treasured tradition and trailblazing innovation.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: taufik123 on March 28, 2023, 03:14:47 PM
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will we continue to favor the timeworn casinos that have been with us for ages? My answer is a resounding yes! There's an undeniable, heartwarming appeal to these age-old gambling dens that modern casinos just can't recreate. The legacy, unforgettable moments, and unrivaled experiences they offer are truly beyond compare.
The answer is also everyone's preference. When you've been in a classic casino for a while and have had an unforgettable experience, old-fashioned gambling can't be abandoned despite the rapid development of technology. That real experience will never be found in online casinos.

Although the development of VR and AI is getting more sophisticated, it will not be able to replace old-fashioned gambling.
It will be an unforgettable moment to be able to play in ancient gambling.

However, let's not forget that change is the one thing we can always count on. As technological progress marches on, so will our appetites and demands. Today's avant-garde casinos, embracing contemporary trends, could dish out unparalleled and electrifying experiences that classic casinos simply can't match. The key lies in discovering that sweet spot between treasured tradition and trailblazing innovation.
I like the term you used "Sweet Spot" between precious tradition and great innovation, The two cannot be separated.
Classic casinos provide a lot of experience, and because of classic casinos, modern casinos today exist and can develop very well.

Technological advancements have made things easier. We'll see how much will change in 10 or 20 years.
VR and AI will rule the roost, but for those old-fashioned gambling enthusiasts, it's still here to stay and will never go away.



Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on March 28, 2023, 04:37:35 PM
It is very important for us to know that when it comes to the world of business, we must be ready for the competition that we may get from other partners or competitive companies like our own. The funny part is that many of these casinos want to bear the name of running there companies on web 3 basis. They want more gamblers on there platforms that is why we are seeing the competition of many of those KYC casinos claiming to be on web 3. We need to check web if truly they are or not if we are looking for a true web 3 casinos.
And for me, I see that to be the worst marketing strategy any casino will ever use, claiming to be Web 3.0 when they literally aren't, because from what I know, a web 3.0 casino is meant to be the advanced feature of the world wide web which uses decentralized blockchain technology. But thou moreover I have not used a web 3.0 gambling casino and wish to use one someday, I don't think KYC should be a compulsory necessity for whichever casino claims to be web 3.0, as that's what differentiates it from the ordinarily normally used casinos



Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: danadc on March 28, 2023, 07:30:58 PM
It is very important for us to know that when it comes to the world of business, we must be ready for the competition that we may get from other partners or competitive companies like our own. The funny part is that many of these casinos want to bear the name of running there companies on web 3 basis. They want more gamblers on there platforms that is why we are seeing the competition of many of those KYC casinos claiming to be on web 3. We need to check web if truly they are or not if we are looking for a true web 3 casinos.
And for me, I see that to be the worst marketing strategy any casino will ever use, claiming to be Web 3.0 when they literally aren't, because from what I know, a web 3.0 casino is meant to be the advanced feature of the world wide web which uses decentralized blockchain technology. But thou moreover I have not used a web 3.0 gambling casino and wish to use one someday, I don't think KYC should be a compulsory necessity for whichever casino claims to be web 3.0, as that's what differentiates it from the ordinarily normally used casinos


There is nothing worse than deceiving people by making them believe that they are using web3 when they are not, and in any case, if they do that to me I will never go back to that casino and it is because deception is not good. I have not visited any web3 casino, but both that they are named and that it is decentralized because it is something that makes me curious, I do not see what are the advantages of what many speak and say, I think it is the same as a normal casino, then it is better to have a web 3.0 casino to see how it is and compare well.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 30, 2023, 04:13:11 AM
The first thing we should know is that, casinos also follow trends, and since the metaverse and web3 protocols become the order of the day, casino games now going on web3 virtual platforms to give players the best experience that will keep them away from other competitors.
So every casino will want to adopt the new trends to make their platform up to date and to meet players' expectations and desires.

We have been having different encounters with the newly established casinos that were coming onboard with different approaches from what gamblers have been used to and these makes them to have more edge in getting more gamblers than the long time existing casinos, now that everything is revolving round about the metaverse and web3, there have been alot of competition even among the casinos because everyone want to make a difference in other to pull out gamblers in having interest from what they offers.
It seems like new casinos like web 3.0 casinos will not be able to overtake the old casinos that are popular today and they are just a fad.
Even though the trend or hype will pass quickly as a trend is only temporary and will soon be rivaled by new hype that will appear in the coming year.
So a new casino that uses the current hype like web 3.0 will not be able to take over the position of the old casino and will not be able to snatch customers from the old casino to move to the new model casino.
Even though there will be many who will be curious about this new casino model, they are only temporary and will definitely return to the old casino which in my opinion is more comfortable and attractive.
The allure of a web3 casino is undeniable, yet humans, as creatures of habit, often gravitate towards the familiar. Intriguing, isn't it, how we're drawn to the known, even when faced with the potential of something superior? While web 3.0 casinos may not dethrone their traditional counterparts overnight, they could undoubtedly carve a niche for themselves.

In the vast tapestry of existence, all is fleeting, wouldn't you agree? Fads rise and fall, but the value they impart endures. True, some may dip their toes into web 3.0 casinos only to retreat to familiar haunts, but others may discover a fresh sanctuary in the groundbreaking technology web 3.0 proffers. Time, as always, shall be the arbiter.

You are right in that sense, for me what intrigues me the most is that a web3.0 casino is not clear about what it is going to be, I have not seen one here in the forum, or it is because I am so lost that I have not noticed? It's strange, but obviously a casino of this style has an advantage over the others, and Since you say that we are habitual, we have in our mind that everything that is new, although it can sometimes be scary, makes us curious, and I think that the Curiosity is that "picotón" that gives us the step to go ahead and try them, if everything goes well and the casino likes it, it is obvious that Many will join, you just have to try.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: len01 on March 30, 2023, 09:24:07 AM
It is very important for us to know that when it comes to the world of business, we must be ready for the competition that we may get from other partners or competitive companies like our own. The funny part is that many of these casinos want to bear the name of running there companies on web 3 basis. They want more gamblers on there platforms that is why we are seeing the competition of many of those KYC casinos claiming to be on web 3. We need to check web if truly they are or not if we are looking for a true web 3 casinos.
And for me, I see that to be the worst marketing strategy any casino will ever use, claiming to be Web 3.0 when they literally aren't, because from what I know, a web 3.0 casino is meant to be the advanced feature of the world wide web which uses decentralized blockchain technology. But thou moreover I have not used a web 3.0 gambling casino and wish to use one someday, I don't think KYC should be a compulsory necessity for whichever casino claims to be web 3.0, as that's what differentiates it from the ordinarily normally used casinos


There is nothing worse than deceiving people by making them believe that they are using web3 when they are not, and in any case, if they do that to me I will never go back to that casino and it is because deception is not good. I have not visited any web3 casino, but both that they are named and that it is decentralized because it is something that makes me curious, I do not see what are the advantages of what many speak and say, I think it is the same as a normal casino, then it is better to have a web 3.0 casino to see how it is and compare well.

maybe some people will think it's a scam, but to me it's just marketing done by new casinos or old casinos by taking advantage of the current trend or hype to attract more customers.
currently the trend of web3 and AI ChatGPT is hype and often discussed everywhere and this is what casinos take this opportunity to attract the attention of gamblers who are out there to try something new.
basically sometimes casinos don't use web3 features purely but they might be in the process of implementing these features. so I assume this is not a scam but like a marketing strategy from the casino.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 03, 2023, 03:23:54 PM
It is very important for us to know that when it comes to the world of business, we must be ready for the competition that we may get from other partners or competitive companies like our own. The funny part is that many of these casinos want to bear the name of running there companies on web 3 basis. They want more gamblers on there platforms that is why we are seeing the competition of many of those KYC casinos claiming to be on web 3. We need to check web if truly they are or not if we are looking for a true web 3 casinos.
And for me, I see that to be the worst marketing strategy any casino will ever use, claiming to be Web 3.0 when they literally aren't, because from what I know, a web 3.0 casino is meant to be the advanced feature of the world wide web which uses decentralized blockchain technology. But thou moreover I have not used a web 3.0 gambling casino and wish to use one someday, I don't think KYC should be a compulsory necessity for whichever casino claims to be web 3.0, as that's what differentiates it from the ordinarily normally used casinos


There is nothing worse than deceiving people by making them believe that they are using web3 when they are not, and in any case, if they do that to me I will never go back to that casino and it is because deception is not good. I have not visited any web3 casino, but both that they are named and that it is decentralized because it is something that makes me curious, I do not see what are the advantages of what many speak and say, I think it is the same as a normal casino, then it is better to have a web 3.0 casino to see how it is and compare well.

maybe some people will think it's a scam, but to me it's just marketing done by new casinos or old casinos by taking advantage of the current trend or hype to attract more customers.
currently the trend of web3 and AI ChatGPT is hype and often discussed everywhere and this is what casinos take this opportunity to attract the attention of gamblers who are out there to try something new.
basically sometimes casinos don't use web3 features purely but they might be in the process of implementing these features. so I assume this is not a scam but like a marketing strategy from the casino.

Well partly all these things are not More of the Same, if we don't get to see,from a more Technical or more Colloquial point of view it is that, the theme of fashion and that everyone Wants to Participate so as not to be left Behind , that is only that achieves the fashions and Everything Necessary,for us as players we are always Expecting to Wait for new things, but not the things that are new and not credible or praises that are going to Deceive us,but Those that are Possible,for that reason It is always Good to be informed of every Detail of the new Casinos and the things they Offer.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Wiwo on April 03, 2023, 03:44:01 PM
It is very important for us to know that when it comes to the world of business, we must be ready for the competition that we may get from other partners or competitive companies like our own. The funny part is that many of these casinos want to bear the name of running there companies on web 3 basis. They want more gamblers on there platforms that is why we are seeing the competition of many of those KYC casinos claiming to be on web 3. We need to check web if truly they are or not if we are looking for a true web 3 casinos.
And for me, I see that to be the worst marketing strategy any casino will ever use, claiming to be Web 3.0 when they literally aren't, because from what I know, a web 3.0 casino is meant to be the advanced feature of the world wide web which uses decentralized blockchain technology. But thou moreover I have not used a web 3.0 gambling casino and wish to use one someday, I don't think KYC should be a compulsory necessity for whichever casino claims to be web 3.0, as that's what differentiates it from the ordinarily normally used casinos


Some projects are careless about this and would do anything to attract new players including spreading false information and claiming to be web 3 is one of such mechanisms used by those casinos to deceive potential clients, this is bad because web 3 was developed to be fully decentralized ruining on layer 2 Networks.

-Anyway, we should always be at alart to make sure we read detailed information about the casino networks and rules before we make an account or deposit on them.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: BVeyron on April 03, 2023, 05:21:15 PM
It is very important for us to know that when it comes to the world of business, we must be ready for the competition that we may get from other partners or competitive companies like our own. The funny part is that many of these casinos want to bear the name of running there companies on web 3 basis. They want more gamblers on there platforms that is why we are seeing the competition of many of those KYC casinos claiming to be on web 3. We need to check web if truly they are or not if we are looking for a true web 3 casinos.
And for me, I see that to be the worst marketing strategy any casino will ever use, claiming to be Web 3.0 when they literally aren't, because from what I know, a web 3.0 casino is meant to be the advanced feature of the world wide web which uses decentralized blockchain technology. But thou moreover I have not used a web 3.0 gambling casino and wish to use one someday, I don't think KYC should be a compulsory necessity for whichever casino claims to be web 3.0, as that's what differentiates it from the ordinarily normally used casinos


Some projects are careless about this and would do anything to attract new players including spreading false information and claiming to be web 3 is one of such mechanisms used by those casinos to deceive potential clients, this is bad because web 3 was developed to be fully decentralized ruining on layer 2 Networks.

-Anyway, we should always be at alart to make sure we read detailed information about the casino networks and rules before we make an account or deposit on them.

Ad campaign is always the spread of false information, and, of course, web 3.0 claims are not an exception. In casino world, I think the way to get a good time is to find the most user-friendly casino and gambling platform. There are several attempts of casino to create a good app, and I think this is the main way for casino companies to raise popularity.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Tumanggor on April 03, 2023, 06:26:02 PM
And for me, I see that to be the worst marketing strategy any casino will ever use, claiming to be Web 3.0 when they literally aren't, because from what I know, a web 3.0 casino is meant to be the advanced feature of the world wide web which uses decentralized blockchain technology. But thou moreover I have not used a web 3.0 gambling casino and wish to use one someday, I don't think KYC should be a compulsory necessity for whichever casino claims to be web 3.0, as that's what differentiates it from the ordinarily normally used casinos
Some projects are careless about this and would do anything to attract new players including spreading false information and claiming to be web 3 is one of such mechanisms used by those casinos to deceive potential clients, this is bad because web 3 was developed to be fully decentralized ruining on layer 2 Networks.

-Anyway, we should always be at alart to make sure we read detailed information about the casino networks and rules before we make an account or deposit on them.
Gambling players are currently required to understand what the actual concept of web-based gambling sites is 3 and must read the TOS at the beginning because many also admit that their sites have adopted Web 3 but end up with KYC

and don't act carelessly and carelessly by filling in a deposit in your gambling account, when you don't really understand the reputation of the gambling site


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: blockman on April 03, 2023, 06:57:42 PM
In casino world, I think the way to get a good time is to find the most user-friendly casino and gambling platform.
You should use a casino that's friendly to everybody and can cater to customers' concerns at most times. Having such a feature in a casino, that's gonna make you come back anytime you're out and it just gives you an idea of how good they are based on how you experienced their services.

There are several attempts of casino to create a good app, and I think this is the main way for casino companies to raise popularity.
Attaching with web3, it's not all needed to have. If they can act as a sole casino then that's the best thing for them to have, most gamblers just want to get on them because they're simple as they are when they've onboarded a lot of players.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Wiwo on April 03, 2023, 07:23:28 PM

Gambling players are currently required to understand what the actual concept of web-based gambling sites is 3 and must read the TOS at the beginning because many also admit that their sites have adopted Web 3 but end up with KYC

and don't act carelessly and carelessly by filling in a deposit in your gambling account, when you don't really understand the reputation of the gambling site
Most of those sites are obviously making a hell out of scamming players because they will be forced at some point to abandon their accounts if the player can not meet the KYC requirements,  this formula is popular among casinos that have no intention to satisfy their customers.

-But as an experienced player one will be sure to have read the terms and conditions of any site before they register on them because if you study the site terms closely you will discover whatever you want to and at the same time use the evidence against the site in case of try violations.

-But most players overlook the section that contains the terms and conditions by just clicking I accept and move on to the main site.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hamphser on April 03, 2023, 07:30:08 PM
And for me, I see that to be the worst marketing strategy any casino will ever use, claiming to be Web 3.0 when they literally aren't, because from what I know, a web 3.0 casino is meant to be the advanced feature of the world wide web which uses decentralized blockchain technology. But thou moreover I have not used a web 3.0 gambling casino and wish to use one someday, I don't think KYC should be a compulsory necessity for whichever casino claims to be web 3.0, as that's what differentiates it from the ordinarily normally used casinos
Some projects are careless about this and would do anything to attract new players including spreading false information and claiming to be web 3 is one of such mechanisms used by those casinos to deceive potential clients, this is bad because web 3 was developed to be fully decentralized ruining on layer 2 Networks.

-Anyway, we should always be at alart to make sure we read detailed information about the casino networks and rules before we make an account or deposit on them.
Gambling players are currently required to understand what the actual concept of web-based gambling sites is 3 and must read the TOS at the beginning because many also admit that their sites have adopted Web 3 but end up with KYC

and don't act carelessly and carelessly by filling in a deposit in your gambling account, when you don't really understand the reputation of the gambling site
Web3 or not, we are still that needing to have that KYc considering that there's no such thing about decentralized or whatsoever except into those sites who do run off blockchain-based type of games.
If a certain site do run off with having providers and other common games that we do have today then it cant really be just that possible.If ever there's some web3 then for sure it would really be
that getting that attention and recognition but making use of this word but doesnt really show off then it would really be just living out that kind of impression which would really be ending up
negatively and if you do ran off a business to be on this way then you would definitely get criticisms instead on getting some users to stay on the site.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: RILWAN on April 03, 2023, 07:49:01 PM
We still have some web 3 projects that are truly answering to their name and giving their players the absolute privacy they seek from such projects, but in every good development, there are always a bad eggs which are the ones spoiling the efforts of others.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: South Park on April 03, 2023, 08:31:58 PM
We still have some web 3 projects that are truly answering to their name and giving their players the absolute privacy they seek from such projects, but in every good development, there are always a bad eggs which are the ones spoiling the efforts of others.
It is nothing new really, when altcoins began to appear and scammers saw that the developers behind those coins were earning a lot of money they decided to do the same and now we have the market flooded with  those useless coins, the same happened with exchanges, NFTs, decentralized exchanges and all kind of businesses which emerged out of this market, and I do not see why casinos could not suffer the same fate.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Myleschetty on April 03, 2023, 10:07:04 PM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: tusandii on April 04, 2023, 08:13:41 AM
In casino world, I think the way to get a good time is to find the most user-friendly casino and gambling platform.
You should use a casino that's friendly to everybody and can cater to customers' concerns at most times. Having such a feature in a casino, that's gonna make you come back anytime you're out and it just gives you an idea of how good they are based on how you experienced their services.
Every gambler wants the most user-friendly casino but every gambler has different criteria for user-friendliness.
Maybe service can be a form of user-friendliness and a priority when using a casino, but on the other hand, many gamblers have user-friendly thoughts about the benefits that can be obtained, such as bonuses or promotions for gamblers.
Whether they will come back or not, we don't know because there will always be casinos that reveal their advantages to gamblers, so that maybe it can make some gamblers unable to become loyal customers because they are always changing casinos to get more profit opportunities.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: lienfaye on April 04, 2023, 08:30:54 AM
We still have some web 3 projects that are truly answering to their name and giving their players the absolute privacy they seek from such projects, but in every good development, there are always a bad eggs which are the ones spoiling the efforts of others.
It is nothing new really, when altcoins began to appear and scammers saw that the developers behind those coins were earning a lot of money they decided to do the same and now we have the market flooded with  those useless coins, the same happened with exchanges, NFTs, decentralized exchanges and all kind of businesses which emerged out of this market, and I do not see why casinos could not suffer the same fate.
That's right. They're just following the trend and what can benefited them. So even it means fooling their clients just to attract them to use their platform, they will do it for their business even it is unethical.

The reason why it's important for us to do our research before using the platform. It would be better to know their rules beforehand to avoid problems. Verify if it's really true that they're a web 3 platform or just using the term to lure the people.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: dezoel on April 04, 2023, 08:44:14 PM
Web3 or not, we are still that needing to have that KYc considering that there's no such thing about decentralized or whatsoever except into those sites who do run off blockchain-based type of games.
If a certain site do run off with having providers and other common games that we do have today then it cant really be just that possible.If ever there's some web3 then for sure it would really be
that getting that attention and recognition but making use of this word but doesnt really show off then it would really be just living out that kind of impression which would really be ending up
negatively and if you do ran off a business to be on this way then you would definitely get criticisms instead on getting some users to stay on the site.
Decentralization is real and I think the blockchain based game you are talking about is an example of it. The original web3 is supposed to be decentralized too, can't you see how they operate? It was very identical to a decentralized site/gambling site where we can just connect our wallet and then we can now use the site.

Maybe there are just fake web3 sites out there and they are the ones who ask for a KYC to their customers. Now that we are aware of this possibility. let us always make it a habit to read and ask before we play if we are not a fan of this KYC thing or else we will abandon our money and gambling accounts in no time.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Fortify on April 04, 2023, 08:49:33 PM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

It's better just to ignore these shallow buzzwords as they are meaningless tech garbage usually produced as a means for some new entrepreneur to sell the latest hyped up product to an investor. It appeals to people who want to be at the cutting edge, the latest and greatest, but is often far from an original idea. The internet is always evolving, new ideas pop up, decentralization takes a step forward, web standards improve, security is enhanced - it's all incremental rather than these huge leaps that such a phrase would suggest. You might also have hundreds, thousands, even millions of people out there who would all give different definitions of what they think it means, which in reality makes it a pointless term to use.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ScamViruS on April 04, 2023, 08:57:13 PM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
Any company tries to show a little more about their company in their marketing to get traffic. Use the trending news to attract gamblers to what is currently trending in the market. Nowadays, many casinos claim that their websites are Web 3:0, but in reality they are not completely sure of their claims. So it falls into misrepresentation to register gamblers in any casino by marketing with false claims.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Slow death on April 04, 2023, 10:23:47 PM
looking at this thread again, I was reminded that every two or three years they always invent something, for example years ago we had the appearance of ICOs, NFTs, there were other things that I can't remember now, and certain casinos took advantage of that , always people deluding themselves, when it was the time of ICOs, some casinos created ICO and raised a lot of money with the promise that the value of your token would be a very high value, but this is all nothing beyond the things that the creators of the casino said for people to believe, deep down the casino owners knew they weren't being very realistic, as a result the casino after some time went bankrupt, I already forgot the names of the casinos that did this

then I saw some casinos with NFT, and again people started to be fooled by the NFT of casinos, some I saw even saw the price going to the moon,, I just think: these guys didn't learn from the past. as if this were not bad enough, then I see casino creating altcoin with promises that people who buy the altcoin from the casino will have many benefits, this is another unrealistic idea, even though it is an unrealistic idea people do not worry about losing money , they buy these altcoins from the casino, now I see web 3.0 another illusion, honestly something illusory always appears, I've even seen things like decentralized casino. I'm wondering what comes next


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: bittraffic on April 05, 2023, 03:18:22 AM
looking at this thread again, I was reminded that every two or three years they always invent something, for example years ago we had the appearance of ICOs, NFTs, there were other things that I can't remember now, and certain casinos took advantage of that , always people deluding themselves, when it was the time of ICOs, some casinos created ICO and raised a lot of money with the promise that the value of your token would be a very high value, but this is all nothing beyond the things that the creators of the casino said for people to believe, deep down the casino owners knew they weren't being very realistic, as a result the casino after some time went bankrupt, I already forgot the names of the casinos that did this

then I saw some casinos with NFT, and again people started to be fooled by the NFT of casinos, some I saw even saw the price going to the moon,, I just think: these guys didn't learn from the past. as if this were not bad enough, then I see casino creating altcoin with promises that people who buy the altcoin from the casino will have many benefits, this is another unrealistic idea, even though it is an unrealistic idea people do not worry about losing money , they buy these altcoins from the casino, now I see web 3.0 another illusion, honestly something illusory always appears, I've even seen things like decentralized casino. I'm wondering what comes next

The casinos that presented themselves to be web3 are the case but I think web3 is possible if there is just a decentralized server and storage like the FIlecoin project. But the ones we have now are more pretentious like those who created NFTs.

Altcoins from casinos will have time in the bull run. That's when it's time to leave those casinos where the investors are also waiting.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Helena Yu on April 05, 2023, 04:13:01 AM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
You're contradicts yourself, Web 3.0 casino isn't only let anyone to gamble through their non custodial wallet, but they also must not ask anyone KYC, not restrict someone due to blacklisted countries, multiple accounts, VPN usage, and they should be transparent with their total holdings etc.

If the casino only let anyone to gamble through their non custodial wallet and ignore the rest thing, it's just a centralized casino with little improvement.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: BobK71 on April 05, 2023, 05:43:53 AM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
Any company tries to show a little more about their company in their marketing to get traffic. Use the trending news to attract gamblers to what is currently trending in the market. Nowadays, many casinos claim that their websites are Web 3:0, but in reality they are not completely sure of their claims. So it falls into misrepresentation to register gamblers in any casino by marketing with false claims.
Agreed,we generally understand that Web3 is a decentralized ecosystem which built on blockchain technology that offers many advantages to casino users. One of the advantages is that they can hide themselves. If KYC is required any web3 casino platform then it is totally against web3. Those sites are not considered to belong to Web3. However, the online casino may use this word to attract the attention of gamblers and their promotion. Transparency, security and efficiency are the main advantages of Web3 without which it cannot be considered as Web3.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: klidex on April 05, 2023, 07:39:31 AM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
That's not a misunderstanding but gambling that uses web 3.0 as marketing indirectly really really uses a web 3.0 system, only now it's possible they are in gradual development to really implement web 3.0
So this isn't a misunderstanding but more a marketing take advantage of the web 3.0 hype


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: piebeyb on April 05, 2023, 08:17:58 AM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
That's not a misunderstanding but gambling that uses web 3.0 as marketing indirectly really really uses a web 3.0 system, only now it's possible they are in gradual development to really implement web 3.0
So this isn't a misunderstanding but more a marketing take advantage of the web 3.0 hype
WEB 3.0 is currently popular so many new casinos are taking advantage of it that supports using WEB 3.0 but they still ask their users to complete KYC meaning casinos like this rely solely on the popularity of WEb 3.0 alone not using a decentralized system which is completely KYC free, but as said by OP this may be a bit of a misunderstanding that needs to be straightened out


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ScamViruS on April 05, 2023, 04:38:50 PM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
Any company tries to show a little more about their company in their marketing to get traffic. Use the trending news to attract gamblers to what is currently trending in the market. Nowadays, many casinos claim that their websites are Web 3:0, but in reality they are not completely sure of their claims. So it falls into misrepresentation to register gamblers in any casino by marketing with false claims.
Agreed,we generally understand that Web3 is a decentralized ecosystem which built on blockchain technology that offers many advantages to casino users. One of the advantages is that they can hide themselves. If KYC is required any web3 casino platform then it is totally against web3. Those sites are not considered to belong to Web3. However, the online casino may use this word to attract the attention of gamblers and their promotion. Transparency, security and efficiency are the main advantages of Web3 without which it cannot be considered as Web3.
Because of this, gamblers now have to be more careful about joining the casino after seeing any promotional event. Kyc is still a big excuse for casinos to trap gamblers in various ways, so no matter how much they promote web 3.0 they won't remove this kyc for their own benefit. So they will do this marketing to use the trending to reach gamblers faster, but they will not actually create a full web 3.0 casino by removing KYC.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Dunamisx on April 05, 2023, 05:10:47 PM
Each gambling site has their own way of operations if you check down their policy well, everything would have been well stated their, we gamblers don't just have this enough time in going through them, now what you find out about a casino is what they are upto, if you think that does not suit your taste you can go in search for another for better experience, we almost complain on things that were caused by our actions not knowing that it's from us the fault started.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: paxmao on April 05, 2023, 10:51:56 PM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
Any company tries to show a little more about their company in their marketing to get traffic. Use the trending news to attract gamblers to what is currently trending in the market. Nowadays, many casinos claim that their websites are Web 3:0, but in reality they are not completely sure of their claims. So it falls into misrepresentation to register gamblers in any casino by marketing with false claims.
Agreed,we generally understand that Web3 is a decentralized ecosystem which built on blockchain technology that offers many advantages to casino users. One of the advantages is that they can hide themselves. If KYC is required any web3 casino platform then it is totally against web3. Those sites are not considered to belong to Web3. However, the online casino may use this word to attract the attention of gamblers and their promotion. Transparency, security and efficiency are the main advantages of Web3 without which it cannot be considered as Web3.
Because of this, gamblers now have to be more careful about joining the casino after seeing any promotional event. Kyc is still a big excuse for casinos to trap gamblers in various ways, so no matter how much they promote web 3.0 they won't remove this kyc for their own benefit. So they will do this marketing to use the trending to reach gamblers faster, but they will not actually create a full web 3.0 casino by removing KYC.

Web 3.0 or not 3.0 does not matter much for compliance and law to be honest. These are completely independent topics because the interface or the programming environment can at most implement better tools or make things more natural, but they do not remove the need to comply with all regulations that are in place in the country of the site.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Mahanton on April 05, 2023, 11:49:20 PM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
Any company tries to show a little more about their company in their marketing to get traffic. Use the trending news to attract gamblers to what is currently trending in the market. Nowadays, many casinos claim that their websites are Web 3:0, but in reality they are not completely sure of their claims. So it falls into misrepresentation to register gamblers in any casino by marketing with false claims.
Agreed,we generally understand that Web3 is a decentralized ecosystem which built on blockchain technology that offers many advantages to casino users. One of the advantages is that they can hide themselves. If KYC is required any web3 casino platform then it is totally against web3. Those sites are not considered to belong to Web3. However, the online casino may use this word to attract the attention of gamblers and their promotion. Transparency, security and efficiency are the main advantages of Web3 without which it cannot be considered as Web3.
Because of this, gamblers now have to be more careful about joining the casino after seeing any promotional event. Kyc is still a big excuse for casinos to trap gamblers in various ways, so no matter how much they promote web 3.0 they won't remove this kyc for their own benefit. So they will do this marketing to use the trending to reach gamblers faster, but they will not actually create a full web 3.0 casino by removing KYC.

Web 3.0 or not 3.0 does not matter much for compliance and law to be honest. These are completely independent topics because the interface or the programming environment can at most implement better tools or make things more natural, but they do not remove the need to comply with all regulations that are in place in the country of the site.
When running a business and if it does involved huge amounts of money then it is really that impossible that it wont be under on a regulation which we know that this is really that pretty basic if we do speak of.
Its true that whether 3.0 or not it would be still on the same compliance. What matter most on here is that we should really be that be interested on what offerings does a certain website does have.
People doesnt really mind much about KYC if ever they do see a certain site is really good looking and does have good game offerings or somewhat like this.
Attracting users would be that depending on game offerings and overall UI/UX of a site.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: DaNNy001 on April 06, 2023, 05:47:28 AM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
Any company tries to show a little more about their company in their marketing to get traffic. Use the trending news to attract gamblers to what is currently trending in the market. Nowadays, many casinos claim that their websites are Web 3:0, but in reality they are not completely sure of their claims. So it falls into misrepresentation to register gamblers in any casino by marketing with false claims.
I guess it's a part of their marketing strategy to attract many users to their platform. Web 3.0 is the trend now when it's comes to gambling online and one thing that's for most users don't even care to check on these websites claim as they are ignorant of everyother information that is involved in this gambling casinos that claims to be using web 3.0 in their online casino.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Rabata on April 06, 2023, 09:33:01 AM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
Any company tries to show a little more about their company in their marketing to get traffic. Use the trending news to attract gamblers to what is currently trending in the market. Nowadays, many casinos claim that their websites are Web 3:0, but in reality they are not completely sure of their claims. So it falls into misrepresentation to register gamblers in any casino by marketing with false claims.
I guess it's a part of their marketing strategy to attract many users to their platform. Web 3.0 is the trend now when it's comes to gambling online and one thing that's for most users don't even care to check on these websites claim as they are ignorant of everyother information that is involved in this gambling casinos that claims to be using web 3.0 in their online casino.
Nowadays web 3.0 gaming platforms have undergone massive changes. Gamblers are heavily attracted to this Web 3.0 to keep themselves safe and gain new gambling experiences. And gambling companies are also using the name Web 3.0 to attract gamblers. Each person will adopt a different approach to marketing strategy. Everyone has full freedom. But if anyone tries to cheat them by using this name it will be considered a crime. A gambler will not choose a new gambling platform just by looking at advertisements. He must check the reviews of various sites about that platform. But such efforts are not unusual. I don't think anything other than a marketing strategy.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: wiss19 on April 06, 2023, 11:36:56 AM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
You're contradicts yourself, Web 3.0 casino isn't only let anyone to gamble through their non custodial wallet, but they also must not ask anyone KYC, not restrict someone due to blacklisted countries, multiple accounts, VPN usage, and they should be transparent with their total holdings etc.

If the casino only let anyone to gamble through their non custodial wallet and ignore the rest thing, it's just a centralized casino with little improvement.
The pace in which the regulations are being imposed over every sector that involves cryptocurrencies is getting faster day by day, and it's only a matter of time when they will start regulating decentralized platforms as well and that will be a very big matter of concern for the whole cryptocurrency industry if they impose KYC and other regulations over decentralized platforms.

For now, there aren't a lot of decentralized casinos available out there, I only remember seeing one, I don't remember the name but it was announced within this forum and one can easily find it. They allow you to gamble by connecting your wallet and betting directly through it using smart contracts and live transactions.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on April 06, 2023, 04:35:09 PM
Each gambling site has their own way of operations if you check down their policy well, everything would have been well stated their, we gamblers don't just have this enough time in going through them, now what you find out about a casino is what they are upto, if you think that does not suit your taste you can go in search for another for better experience, we almost complain on things that were caused by our actions not knowing that it's from us the fault started.
That's what we rarely realize, that it's obvious as you said every casino has their own way of operating, but we as users put too much pressure on them for them to be what we want them to be. Reputable casinos have also tried to provide us with comfort when playing, but indeed I see it is a human form when they do good service we want to get even better service. In fact, if you think about it, actually it's not that complicated if we don't have too much will, what makes it complicated is ourselves.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: dezoel on April 08, 2023, 06:54:41 AM
Nowadays web 3.0 gaming platforms have undergone massive changes. Gamblers are heavily attracted to this Web 3.0 to keep themselves safe and gain new gambling experiences. And gambling companies are also using the name Web 3.0 to attract gamblers. Each person will adopt a different approach to marketing strategy. Everyone has full freedom. But if anyone tries to cheat them by using this name it will be considered a crime. A gambler will not choose a new gambling platform just by looking at advertisements. He must check the reviews of various sites about that platform. But such efforts are not unusual. I don't think anything other than a marketing strategy.
There aren't a lot of Web 3.0 casinos available out there, maybe one or a couple that I've seen are actually decentralized, and using Web 3.0, providing gamblers the option to connect their wallets without having to register or do anything else. I don't remember the name of the casino offering this but it is available here in the forum.

It is true that most of the projects only use the name to get free advertisement since Web 3.0 is one of the trending topics these days, and people are always looking for places where they can witness Web 3.0 being utilized.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: mindrust on April 08, 2023, 07:02:22 AM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
Any company tries to show a little more about their company in their marketing to get traffic. Use the trending news to attract gamblers to what is currently trending in the market. Nowadays, many casinos claim that their websites are Web 3:0, but in reality they are not completely sure of their claims. So it falls into misrepresentation to register gamblers in any casino by marketing with false claims.

So Web3.0 is just another buzzword for the companies to promote their businesses. Few years ago it was "the blockchain" and now it is something else. Back then, the Nasdaq companies were adding blockchain to their business and they were getting pumped immediately. Let's say it was a transportation company and they said "We are now transporting your stuff on a blockchain!!!" boom its stock went up by 20% 30%. Before that ICO was the hot stuff. NFT's went hot for a while too but they died recently so WEB3.0 is  where we are at now. "You should invest in this shit mate it has Web3.0 in it. lambo moon soon"


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: piebeyb on April 08, 2023, 07:25:13 AM
Nowadays web 3.0 gaming platforms have undergone massive changes. Gamblers are heavily attracted to this Web 3.0 to keep themselves safe and gain new gambling experiences. And gambling companies are also using the name Web 3.0 to attract gamblers. Each person will adopt a different approach to marketing strategy. Everyone has full freedom. But if anyone tries to cheat them by using this name it will be considered a crime. A gambler will not choose a new gambling platform just by looking at advertisements. He must check the reviews of various sites about that platform. But such efforts are not unusual. I don't think anything other than a marketing strategy.
There aren't a lot of Web 3.0 casinos available out there, maybe one or a couple that I've seen are actually decentralized, and using Web 3.0, providing gamblers the option to connect their wallets without having to register or do anything else. I don't remember the name of the casino offering this but it is available here in the forum.

It is true that most of the projects only use the name to get free advertisement since Web 3.0 is one of the trending topics these days, and people are always looking for places where they can witness Web 3.0 being utilized.
usually casinos only add options to access their sites whether using web 3.0 or using accounts such as email and passwords, but so far casinos using web 3.0 are not fully decentralized so they are only used as a marketing trend, after all not many decentralized casinos survive and most of them disappeared because they went bankrupt there weren't many players there.  ;)


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Peanutswar on April 08, 2023, 11:34:24 AM
Each gambling site has their own way of operations if you check down their policy well, everything would have been well stated their, we gamblers don't just have this enough time in going through them, now what you find out about a casino is what they are upto, if you think that does not suit your taste you can go in search for another for better experience, we almost complain on things that were caused by our actions not knowing that it's from us the fault started.

People keep always complaining about their existing gambling platform but in the reality, they keep playing on it, one of the reasons is they already built trust with that casino even though there's some conflict with it and somehow expect to get fit into it, and some another thing is they do not have any options for their casino and keep having on it, better to find a casino suitable with their gambling habit to make sure there's no an issues with their gambling entertainment.

Nowadays web 3.0 gaming platforms have undergone massive changes. Gamblers are heavily attracted to this Web 3.0 to keep themselves safe and gain new gambling experiences. And gambling companies are also using the name Web 3.0 to attract gamblers. Each person will adopt a different approach to marketing strategy. Everyone has full freedom. But if anyone tries to cheat them by using this name it will be considered a crime. A gambler will not choose a new gambling platform just by looking at advertisements. He must check the reviews of various sites about that platform. But such efforts are not unusual. I don't think anything other than a marketing strategy.
There aren't a lot of Web 3.0 casinos available out there, maybe one or a couple that I've seen are actually decentralized, and using Web 3.0, providing gamblers the option to connect their wallets without having to register or do anything else. I don't remember the name of the casino offering this but it is available here in the forum.

It is true that most of the projects only use the name to get free advertisement since Web 3.0 is one of the trending topics these days, and people are always looking for places where they can witness Web 3.0 being utilized.
usually casinos only add options to access their sites whether using web 3.0 or using accounts such as email and passwords, but so far casinos using web 3.0 are not fully decentralized so they are only used as a marketing trend, after all not many decentralized casinos survive and most of them disappeared because they went bankrupt there weren't many players there.  ;)

Web 3 is on the future, the casino right now are widely accepting this feature because of using the non-custodial wallets so the players can enjoy easily still it depends on the casino if they will adopt the KYC or not.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: CarnagexD on April 08, 2023, 12:17:26 PM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
Any company tries to show a little more about their company in their marketing to get traffic. Use the trending news to attract gamblers to what is currently trending in the market. Nowadays, many casinos claim that their websites are Web 3:0, but in reality they are not completely sure of their claims. So it falls into misrepresentation to register gamblers in any casino by marketing with false claims.

So Web3.0 is just another buzzword for the companies to promote their businesses. Few years ago it was "the blockchain" and now it is something else. Back then, the Nasdaq companies were adding blockchain to their business and they were getting pumped immediately. Let's say it was a transportation company and they said "We are now transporting your stuff on a blockchain!!!" boom its stock went up by 20% 30%. Before that ICO was the hot stuff. NFT's went hot for a while too but they died recently so WEB3.0 is  where we are at now. "You should invest in this shit mate it has Web3.0 in it. lambo moon soon"

Web 3 is not something new. We may have just recently learned about this but it has been revolving around us in the early 2000s. To be honest I find web 3.0  amazing and at the same time terrifying. Imagine, the web knows your personal preferences because of the history you've made in the internet. I mean it's the same with Web 3.0 casinos, because generally they are part of the web 3.0 as well. Web 3.0 technologies can use data analytics and algorithms to analyze user behavior and preferences and provide personalized recommendations and services. For example, an application might analyze a user's browsing history, search queries and social media activity to provide personalized content and recommendations. Everything can be found.

The web 3.0 casino takes advantage of the features and benefits of Web 3.0 like the enhanced security, transparency, and decentralization, to provide a more secure, fair and user-friendly online gambling platform. To be honest, I thought I was mistaken that these two, web 3.0 and web 3.0 are related.

Nowadays web 3.0 gaming platforms have undergone massive changes. Gamblers are heavily attracted to this Web 3.0 to keep themselves safe and gain new gambling experiences. And gambling companies are also using the name Web 3.0 to attract gamblers. Each person will adopt a different approach to marketing strategy. Everyone has full freedom. But if anyone tries to cheat them by using this name it will be considered a crime. A gambler will not choose a new gambling platform just by looking at advertisements. He must check the reviews of various sites about that platform. But such efforts are not unusual. I don't think anything other than a marketing strategy.
There aren't a lot of Web 3.0 casinos available out there, maybe one or a couple that I've seen are actually decentralized, and using Web 3.0, providing gamblers the option to connect their wallets without having to register or do anything else. I don't remember the name of the casino offering this but it is available here in the forum.

It is true that most of the projects only use the name to get free advertisement since Web 3.0 is one of the trending topics these days, and people are always looking for places where they can witness Web 3.0 being utilized.

Right. Using web 3.0 is a great way for marketing. Aside from the fact that it offers decentralization and transparency, Web 3.0 casino are already aware of their targeted users. I read it here: https://cryptogamble.tips/metaverse/web-3-0-and-casinos/
Web 3.0 casino demographics or users by analyzing their behavior and creating targeted advertising campaigns that are more likely to resonate with that user. If you're actively liking or staying in posts related to web 3.0 casinos, you're more likely to encounter these kinds of advertisements.

But I agree with you that there are lots who just uses the name for free marketing. There are currently not as many Web 3.0 casinos available compared to traditional online casinos. By faking their marketing Web 3.0 casinos, traditional online casinos are just trying to attract users who are interested in the Web 3.0 casino features, even if their platform doesn't actually offer them.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Wexnident on April 08, 2023, 03:09:25 PM
So Web3.0 is just another buzzword for the companies to promote their businesses. Few years ago it was "the blockchain" and now it is something else. Back then, the Nasdaq companies were adding blockchain to their business and they were getting pumped immediately. Let's say it was a transportation company and they said "We are now transporting your stuff on a blockchain!!!" boom its stock went up by 20% 30%. Before that ICO was the hot stuff. NFT's went hot for a while too but they died recently so WEB3.0 is  where we are at now. "You should invest in this shit mate it has Web3.0 in it. lambo moon soon"
Always has been. Web 3 was introduced as a decentralized sort of web-browser thingy, but I've seen absolutely zero with regard to its development. Any info that was actually about it was just a bunch of general gibberish that people spout to arouse interest, but no real solid development about it. It's a marketing buzzword only at this point, they probably just use it so that it's applied for their SEO's or something like that in general.

Also pretty sure web3 was before or around NFT's rise? I reckon it's AI's next really.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: erep on April 08, 2023, 04:33:36 PM
But I agree with you that there are lots who just uses the name for free marketing. There are currently not as many Web 3.0 casinos available compared to traditional online casinos. By faking their marketing Web 3.0 casinos, traditional online casinos are just trying to attract users who are interested in the Web 3.0 casino features, even if their platform doesn't actually offer them.
Many new casinos use web 3.0 casino in their last name and slogan to attract the interest of new users, they just modify the user interface to look like web 3.0 but don't actually use the algorithms from web 3.0, it's all marketing strategy related. Currently many top casino platforms have not yet switched to web 3.0 so don't trust new casinos with the implementation of web 3.0 that it offers to new users, top casinos must have reviewed web 3.0 usage and the team has designed a development planning table for web simulation using web 3.0.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Myleschetty on April 09, 2023, 11:51:00 PM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
Any company tries to show a little more about their company in their marketing to get traffic. Use the trending news to attract gamblers to what is currently trending in the market. Nowadays, many casinos claim that their websites are Web 3:0, but in reality they are not completely sure of their claims. So it falls into misrepresentation to register gamblers in any casino by marketing with false claims.
I don't think it was actually that they are not sure about their claims. Web 3.0 is something a cryptocurrency newbie can understand just by doing something research, the goal of the casino that guilt of fake claims is to drive more traffic in a shady way.

I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
You're contradicts yourself, Web 3.0 casino isn't only let anyone to gamble through their non custodial wallet, but they also must not ask anyone KYC, not restrict someone due to blacklisted countries, multiple accounts, VPN usage, and they should be transparent with their total holdings etc.

If the casino only let anyone to gamble through their non custodial wallet and ignore the rest thing, it's just a centralized casino with little improvement.
I am not contradicting myself, is either you don't read to understand what i wrote well because I used the statement "while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization." to point out the KYC you're talking about.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: tusandii on April 10, 2023, 09:14:54 AM
But I agree with you that there are lots who just uses the name for free marketing. There are currently not as many Web 3.0 casinos available compared to traditional online casinos. By faking their marketing Web 3.0 casinos, traditional online casinos are just trying to attract users who are interested in the Web 3.0 casino features, even if their platform doesn't actually offer them.
Many new casinos use web 3.0 casino in their last name and slogan to attract the interest of new users, they just modify the user interface to look like web 3.0 but don't actually use the algorithms from web 3.0, it's all marketing strategy related. Currently many top casino platforms have not yet switched to web 3.0 so don't trust new casinos with the implementation of web 3.0 that it offers to new users, top casinos must have reviewed web 3.0 usage and the team has designed a development planning table for web simulation using web 3.0.
Actually there are some new casinos that are web3 based and they don't just write web3 slogans but it's true they are web3 based.
But as you said it is also true that there are new casinos that use web3 base for their promotions to attract new gamblers but this is just a bulshit slogan because when gamblers enter the casino they are not web3 based casinos but normal crypto casinos trying to cheat gamblers with web-based sentences3.
We need to be more careful and do research first when we find a casino like this. It would be even better to see reviews or feedback about the casino so that it can give us the right answer whether the casino is truly web-based and safe to use.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ScamViruS on April 10, 2023, 07:16:03 PM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
Any company tries to show a little more about their company in their marketing to get traffic. Use the trending news to attract gamblers to what is currently trending in the market. Nowadays, many casinos claim that their websites are Web 3:0, but in reality they are not completely sure of their claims. So it falls into misrepresentation to register gamblers in any casino by marketing with false claims.
I don't think it was actually that they are not sure about their claims. Web 3.0 is something a cryptocurrency newbie can understand just by doing something research, the goal of the casino that guilt of fake claims is to drive more traffic in a shady way.
Newbies are not interested in researching something new, so they get interested in something when they see it even without knowing details about it. As a result, the various projects believe that what they claim is true, they get the traffic they expect. So marketing with such fake claims will continue and they will also bring traffic to their website.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Desmong on April 10, 2023, 10:16:36 PM
It is just surprising that every casinos want to follow the new trend which is web 3 and now that we are in the trend if AI, I know that many of would.want to call themselves AI casino projects. It is just too funny to keep seeing this kind of trend in the gambling section since many casinos are competing with themselves to gain the heart of gamblers.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Fatunad on April 10, 2023, 11:39:25 PM
It is just surprising that every casinos want to follow the new trend which is web 3 and now that we are in the trend if AI, I know that many of would.want to call themselves AI casino projects. It is just too funny to keep seeing this kind of trend in the gambling section since many casinos are competing with themselves to gain the heart of gamblers.
What would you expect? Of course on every trend or any hype, any business wouldnt really be liking for them to get left behind which means that if ever they would be seeing something new
 then they would definitely be going for that course and would be copying on the same idea.They dont really just like to miss out because that would really be a total lost of marketshare potentially.
This is how business do really behaves on which they wont really be that making themselves that too confident that they are on the top ranks, potentially they could
really be overtaken on a business that offers something new and something that havent been seen on the market.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: tazmantasik on April 11, 2023, 01:52:37 AM
Many new gambling platform just hype by using  web 3.0 because in the reality far away from web 3.0 meaning about decentralized, almost gambling platform right now required with KYC and not related with their gambling platform slogan about use web 3.0 casino. Seems way how to make many people interested with their gambling platform although fact need and required with KYC submitting for deposit or withdrawing fund.
Just following about which one trending and applicated on gambling platform although their working not relationship anymore how web 3.0 is working.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Alisha-k on April 11, 2023, 07:33:31 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
it's a way of hyping and drawing your attention to the platform. The market is becoming more competitive as the day draws by, so it's of our interest to be able to know and decipher which platform means well for their customer base.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: traderethereum on April 11, 2023, 11:08:41 AM
Many new gambling platform just hype by using  web 3.0 because in the reality far away from web 3.0 meaning about decentralized, almost gambling platform right now required with KYC and not related with their gambling platform slogan about use web 3.0 casino. Seems way how to make many people interested with their gambling platform although fact need and required with KYC submitting for deposit or withdrawing fund.
Just following about which one trending and applicated on gambling platform although their working not relationship anymore how web 3.0 is working.
There is no need to get tempted by a new gambling platform if it is not suitable because it is just a way for new casinos to say that their casino is web 3.0 based.
But I think there are web 3.0 casinos that are decentralized and don't ask users to do KYC to withdraw their money.
And if you find a casino like that, it's better for you to avoid it and go back to the casino you usually used to gamble at.
So don't always follow the existing trend because the trend is not always good for you.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: pungopete468 on April 11, 2023, 12:03:12 PM
Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

Probably a misunderstanding or probably because they have sports betting, usually if the gambling site has a sports betting they need to comply with the terms and regulation of the gambling site provider and one of the requirement is asking KYC so they know that the player complied with their license. So it is actually misunderstanding to some but I think some gambling site really doesn't understand the use of the Web 3.0 I think they should have separate website for Web 3.0 and sports betting.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: South Park on April 11, 2023, 09:44:37 PM
It is just surprising that every casinos want to follow the new trend which is web 3 and now that we are in the trend if AI, I know that many of would.want to call themselves AI casino projects. It is just too funny to keep seeing this kind of trend in the gambling section since many casinos are competing with themselves to gain the heart of gamblers.
Those are just buzzwords and nothing more, back in the day when the dot com bubble was at its peak we saw the same thing, with projects that had nothing to do with it putting all kind of technological terms on their proposals so it seemed as if they were on the cusp of reaching something great, when in fact they were just an average project or business looking for more money than what they deserved, and the worst part is that they got it, they failed to produce results and their investors lost money, and this is the same as most of those casinos promoting themselves this way are not decentralized.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Myleschetty on April 11, 2023, 10:30:55 PM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
Any company tries to show a little more about their company in their marketing to get traffic. Use the trending news to attract gamblers to what is currently trending in the market. Nowadays, many casinos claim that their websites are Web 3:0, but in reality they are not completely sure of their claims. So it falls into misrepresentation to register gamblers in any casino by marketing with false claims.
I don't think it was actually that they are not sure about their claims. Web 3.0 is something a cryptocurrency newbie can understand just by doing something research, the goal of the casino that guilt of fake claims is to drive more traffic in a shady way.
Newbies are not interested in researching something new, so they get interested in something when they see it even without knowing details about it. As a result, the various projects believe that what they claim is true, they get the traffic they expect. So marketing with such fake claims will continue and they will also bring traffic to their website.
You are absolutely correct. I believe 80% of all newbies are not interested in doing some research about the fundamental concept of Web 2.0, 2.5, and 3.0. There's no one to be blamed for the naive and this is the exact reason a shady casino that was tagged on this forum still manages to lure the new victim that didn't do some research about the casino before using it.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Wiwo on April 11, 2023, 11:26:04 PM


You are absolutely correct. I believe 80% of all newbies are not interested in doing some research about the fundamental concept of Web 2.0, 2.5, and 3.0. There's no one to be blamed for the naive and this is the exact reason a shady casino that was tagged on this forum still manages to lure the new victim that didn't do some research about the casino before using it.
Yeah, we may blame it on the laziness on the part of the players to do some extra findings about the casino they're about to make deposits and play on, but that is also a small segment of what really drags people into falling victim to scams most especially newbies, this is because most newbies just go ahead to click any signature with more visibility or higher rank promoting it so this lead me to ask you this question.

If you blame the newbies for not doing and extra research, what about the members but high and low ranks who knownly promote thos scam casinos?


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ScamViruS on April 11, 2023, 11:48:16 PM
I don't think the gambling site that claimed to be a web 3.0 gambling website misunderstands the concept of Web 3.0. I believe they only apply web 3.0 just to gain more traffic while they only focus on the cryptocurrency and individual non-custodial wallet use on their platform while they ignore the control of personal data and decentralization.
Any company tries to show a little more about their company in their marketing to get traffic. Use the trending news to attract gamblers to what is currently trending in the market. Nowadays, many casinos claim that their websites are Web 3:0, but in reality they are not completely sure of their claims. So it falls into misrepresentation to register gamblers in any casino by marketing with false claims.
I don't think it was actually that they are not sure about their claims. Web 3.0 is something a cryptocurrency newbie can understand just by doing something research, the goal of the casino that guilt of fake claims is to drive more traffic in a shady way.
Newbies are not interested in researching something new, so they get interested in something when they see it even without knowing details about it. As a result, the various projects believe that what they claim is true, they get the traffic they expect. So marketing with such fake claims will continue and they will also bring traffic to their website.
You are absolutely correct. I believe 80% of all newbies are not interested in doing some research about the fundamental concept of Web 2.0, 2.5, and 3.0. There's no one to be blamed for the naive and this is the exact reason a shady casino that was tagged on this forum still manages to lure the new victim that didn't do some research about the casino before using it.

When a trend in the market has good potential to attract more customers, the casino will give more importance to that way of marketing. Nowadays it seems that many casinos claim a lot during promotions, but the real experience comes after making an account at that casino and making a deposit. So newbies should be more interested in learning, so that no company can mislead them.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: noormcs5 on April 11, 2023, 11:49:56 PM
Always has been. Web 3 was introduced as a decentralized sort of web-browser thingy, but I've seen absolutely zero with regard to its development. Any info that was actually about it was just a bunch of general gibberish that people spout to arouse interest, but no real solid development about it. It's a marketing buzzword only at this point, they probably just use it so that it's applied for their SEO's or something like that in general.

Generally speaking, around 90% of the casino claiming to be web 3, are actually not even close to decentralization or web 3. But since everyone's talking about the future is Web 3.0, the casinos have started using it in order to attract gamblers to their site.

Also pretty sure web3 was before or around NFT's rise? I reckon it's AI's next really.

Don't tell me that we will soon be seeing AI casino's bombardment in the near future  :D

Why on earth the gambling casinos don't market those things they have and not try to fool the people by using these fancy words like AI, NFT, Web 3.0 etc  ???


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: tusandii on April 12, 2023, 07:50:23 AM
Why on earth the gambling casinos don't market those things they have and not try to fool the people by using these fancy words like AI, NFT, Web 3.0 etc  ???
You can know for yourself that today's gamblers are mostly experienced and have quite a lot of knowledge, so it's not easy to fool them with marketing that is given fancy words such as AI, NFT, Web 3.0.
After all, many gamblers don't trust new casinos so marketing with these words will only get them the bad feedback that most gamblers give.
It's better to be an honest casino and say what they really have to do marketing.
Including a development that is being carried out and also all good services will be more liked and interested by gamblers than having to provide false sentences that aim to fool the public.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Myleschetty on April 12, 2023, 09:31:10 PM


You are absolutely correct. I believe 80% of all newbies are not interested in doing some research about the fundamental concept of Web 2.0, 2.5, and 3.0. There's no one to be blamed for the naive and this is the exact reason a shady casino that was tagged on this forum still manages to lure the new victim that didn't do some research about the casino before using it.
Yeah, we may blame it on the laziness on the part of the players to do some extra findings about the casino they're about to make deposits and play on, but that is also a small segment of what really drags people into falling victim to scams most especially newbies, this is because most newbies just go ahead to click any signature with more visibility or higher rank promoting it so this lead me to ask you this question.

If you blame the newbies for not doing and extra research, what about the members but high and low ranks who knownly promote thos scam casinos?
You're right and that's another thing the newbie needs to take into consideration before playing on any casino that's advertised on this forum since the forum doesn't moderate scams and I believe this is to maintain the decentralized and privacy in this forum. However, it's not hard to know about scam casinos on this forum judging by the forum's powerful backlink.



Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Dunamisx on April 12, 2023, 10:17:17 PM
But I agree with you that there are lots who just uses the name for free marketing. There are currently not as many Web 3.0 casinos available compared to traditional online casinos. By faking their marketing Web 3.0 casinos, traditional online casinos are just trying to attract users who are interested in the Web 3.0 casino features, even if their platform doesn't actually offer them.
Many new casinos use web 3.0 casino in their last name and slogan to attract the interest of new users, they just modify the user interface to look like web 3.0 but don't actually use the algorithms from web 3.0, it's all marketing strategy related. Currently many top casino platforms have not yet switched to web 3.0 so don't trust new casinos with the implementation of web 3.0 that it offers to new users, top casinos must have reviewed web 3.0 usage and the team has designed a development planning table for web simulation using web 3.0.

Everyone has its own way of making new offers in other to stand unique among others, being a casino owner, you need to do every possible best to make sure you're offering something unique for gamblers to feast on because they will always expect new delivery from you, know that money is also involved in this and it's a major criteria to implementation of something new, and this may last or not base on their believe about casinos.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Bushdark on April 12, 2023, 10:58:57 PM

You are absolutely correct. I believe 80% of all newbies are not interested in doing some research about the fundamental concept of Web 2.0, 2.5, and 3.0. There's no one to be blamed for the naive and this is the exact reason a shady casino that was tagged on this forum still manages to lure the new victim that didn't do some research about the casino before using it.
Whether you are newbies or not, It is the sole aim of every gambler to make profits but the problem many gamblers are making is that because of greed, they keep making mistakes that make them lose more than they can chew. The greed of making more money would make them to bet with high odd to increase the winnings which supposed not to be so.

If you blame the newbies for not doing and extra research, what about the members but high and low ranks who knownly promote thos scam casinos?
Since the forum does not moderate scam, whatever they see as a consequence of them promoting scam casinos is there problem(red trusts).
We need to always do extra research as a gambler so that we are not going to be falling victim to scam site that do not mind taking our money from us.

You're right and that's another thing the newbie needs to take into consideration before playing on any casino that's advertised on this forum since the forum doesn't moderate scams and I believe this is to maintain the decentralized and privacy in this forum. However, it's not hard to know about scam casinos on this forum judging by the forum's powerful backlink.
There are many ways to know scam casino and the best way is to check for red trust and other people's opinion on the account.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 13, 2023, 03:35:51 PM
~snip~
But if you are asked by someone, will you still choose a web 3.0 casino or choose an old casino that has had all kinds of games for a long time that always accompany you when you want to have fun at gambling?
I'm sure you will answer yes maybe try a few times in web 3.0 casinos but in the end you will return to your favorite casino that has given you pleasure and trust for a long time.
Of course there will always be new models of casinos following the current trends, but old casinos would be the best for me.
Peering into the future, it's intriguing to consider the potential metamorphosis of the gambling scene in the coming 10 or 20 years. Web 3.0 casinos could become the gold standard, while cutting-edge technologies like VR and AI may turn the tables on how we wager. But here's the burning question: will we continue to favor the timeworn casinos that have been with us for ages? My answer is a resounding yes! There's an undeniable, heartwarming appeal to these age-old gambling dens that modern casinos just can't recreate. The legacy, unforgettable moments, and unrivaled experiences they offer are truly beyond compare.

However, let's not forget that change is the one thing we can always count on. As technological progress marches on, so will our appetites and demands. Today's avant-garde casinos, embracing contemporary trends, could dish out unparalleled and electrifying experiences that classic casinos simply can't match. The key lies in discovering that sweet spot between treasured tradition and trailblazing innovation.

Well, the future is not yet written, but everything they are talking about in the thread seems to be very promising, for me these casinos will set a standard and after this all the casinos that have been around for many years will have to focus as well to make the respective updates, for example, a casino like stake.com has to take into account all these changes and really things are quite promising, for some reason this looks good, because just as stake.com can catch up with the newest, that will force the casinos to have to do the same.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Myleschetty on April 14, 2023, 09:03:15 PM
You are absolutely correct. I believe 80% of all newbies are not interested in doing some research about the fundamental concept of Web 2.0, 2.5, and 3.0. There's no one to be blamed for the naive and this is the exact reason a shady casino that was tagged on this forum still manages to lure the new victim that didn't do some research about the casino before using it.
Whether you are newbies or not, It is the sole aim of every gambler to make profits but the problem many gamblers are making is that because of greed, they keep making mistakes that make them lose more than they can chew. The greed of making more money would make them to bet with high odd to increase the winnings which supposed not to be so.
Of course, greed for making more always makes gamblers bet high so they could win big but it also reduces the number of game ought to play and increase their risk tier.
What we are talking about was not greed but the shady service provided by some casinos to lure new users and the newbie who didn't do adequate research is always their victim.


You're right and that's another thing the newbie needs to take into consideration before playing on any casino that's advertised on this forum since the forum doesn't moderate scams and I believe this is to maintain the decentralized and privacy in this forum. However, it's not hard to know about scam casinos on this forum judging by the forum's powerful backlink.
There are many ways to know scam casino and the best way is to check for red trust and other people's opinion on the account.
Agreed.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hamphser on April 14, 2023, 09:59:10 PM
~snip~
But if you are asked by someone, will you still choose a web 3.0 casino or choose an old casino that has had all kinds of games for a long time that always accompany you when you want to have fun at gambling?
I'm sure you will answer yes maybe try a few times in web 3.0 casinos but in the end you will return to your favorite casino that has given you pleasure and trust for a long time.
Of course there will always be new models of casinos following the current trends, but old casinos would be the best for me.
Peering into the future, it's intriguing to consider the potential metamorphosis of the gambling scene in the coming 10 or 20 years. Web 3.0 casinos could become the gold standard, while cutting-edge technologies like VR and AI may turn the tables on how we wager. But here's the burning question: will we continue to favor the timeworn casinos that have been with us for ages? My answer is a resounding yes! There's an undeniable, heartwarming appeal to these age-old gambling dens that modern casinos just can't recreate. The legacy, unforgettable moments, and unrivaled experiences they offer are truly beyond compare.

However, let's not forget that change is the one thing we can always count on. As technological progress marches on, so will our appetites and demands. Today's avant-garde casinos, embracing contemporary trends, could dish out unparalleled and electrifying experiences that classic casinos simply can't match. The key lies in discovering that sweet spot between treasured tradition and trailblazing innovation.

Well, the future is not yet written, but everything they are talking about in the thread seems to be very promising, for me these casinos will set a standard and after this all the casinos that have been around for many years will have to focus as well to make the respective updates, for example, a casino like stake.com has to take into account all these changes and really things are quite promising, for some reason this looks good, because just as stake.com can catch up with the newest, that will force the casinos to have to do the same.

It would be a never ending thing if we do speak about overhauls and implementing new ideas because they cant or companies cant just stick out on what they are currently offering in the past up to the future which we do really want to see something new or something that havent seen before when it comes to offerings or overall user experience which is something that we do really want to see and engage it out.
They wont really be that dumb on not having those considerations basing up on future plans when it comes to changes because we know that this industry is really that in high in competition which the
new company that gives out new experience and other perks that wasnt been given or shown before then they would really be likely getting that more attention or traction.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: tusandii on April 15, 2023, 05:46:48 AM
You are absolutely correct. I believe 80% of all newbies are not interested in doing some research about the fundamental concept of Web 2.0, 2.5, and 3.0. There's no one to be blamed for the naive and this is the exact reason a shady casino that was tagged on this forum still manages to lure the new victim that didn't do some research about the casino before using it.
Whether you are newbies or not, It is the sole aim of every gambler to make profits but the problem many gamblers are making is that because of greed, they keep making mistakes that make them lose more than they can chew. The greed of making more money would make them to bet with high odd to increase the winnings which supposed not to be so.
Of course, greed for making more always makes gamblers bet high so they could win big but it also reduces the number of game ought to play and increase their risk tier.
What we are talking about was not greed but the shady service provided by some casinos to lure new users and the newbie who didn't do adequate research is always their victim.
Greed in gambling is not recommended because it can give you the risk of losing more money.
So far, greed has made many gamblers experience big losses and they only regret it in the end because they didn't stop immediately when they won or lost.
This kind of thing naturally happens and there are many cases where greed brings gamblers into trouble.
By the way, we must continue to provide understanding to new gamblers and gamblers, especially so that they are not deceived by shady services provided by casinos.
After all shady services have happened a lot in this gambling industry and we can only remind each other that there are no victims.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 15, 2023, 03:27:20 PM
greed for making more always makes gamblers bet high so they could win big but it also reduces the number of game ought to play and increase their risk tier.
What we are talking about was not greed but the shady service provided by some casinos to lure new users and the newbie who didn't do adequate research is always their victim.
We know greed will only lead us to lose more money. Even the winning money that we have earned can also be lost at the gambling table. This is what we have to avoid to enjoy winning money; if we haven't been able to win, we can also avoid bigger losses. Greed will bring us nothing but losing more money. So we must try to overcome greed and not be tempted by attractive offers provided by casinos so that we can stop just in time.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Outhue on April 15, 2023, 05:21:14 PM
greed for making more always makes gamblers bet high so they could win big but it also reduces the number of game ought to play and increase their risk tier.
What we are talking about was not greed but the shady service provided by some casinos to lure new users and the newbie who didn't do adequate research is always their victim.
We know greed will only lead us to lose more money. Even the winning money that we have earned can also be lost at the gambling table. This is what we have to avoid to enjoy winning money; if we haven't been able to win, we can also avoid bigger losses. Greed will bring us nothing but losing more money. So we must try to overcome greed and not be tempted by attractive offers provided by casinos so that we can stop just in time.
Good advice, and the only way to avoid greed is using small portion of your earnings or extra income to gamble, I have never use more than 40$ to gamble in a whole month.

I made more than 40$ per month but this is the extra money that won't be needing, so yes, I can take my eye off the losses if I lose this 40$ every month.

I also don't gamble every day, people do this and I still can't figure out why, gambling shouldn't be an everyday something because losing is a big part of the gambling.

it's not a business or a job, I think this is why some people lost too much to gambling, their expectations about gambling are blinding, and it's also why they get addicted to gambling.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Fatunad on April 15, 2023, 05:36:15 PM
greed for making more always makes gamblers bet high so they could win big but it also reduces the number of game ought to play and increase their risk tier.
What we are talking about was not greed but the shady service provided by some casinos to lure new users and the newbie who didn't do adequate research is always their victim.
We know greed will only lead us to lose more money. Even the winning money that we have earned can also be lost at the gambling table. This is what we have to avoid to enjoy winning money; if we haven't been able to win, we can also avoid bigger losses. Greed will bring us nothing but losing more money. So we must try to overcome greed and not be tempted by attractive offers provided by casinos so that we can stop just in time.
Everythings too much would always be that bad and this is why we should really be making ourselves that fully aware on what are the things that we should really be making up decision for the better.
Greed is something that been part of a human being or simply its a natural behavior or character but there are ones who do tolerate out their greediness into a certain extent which they couldnt be able to
handle it out or stop midway which it do end up on a disaster on things which they couldnt be able to control it out. This is why you should really be that mindful in towards your actions.
Speaking about companies or sites that do divert out and decieve people just to get some attention? Its really a bad idea.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on April 15, 2023, 05:57:23 PM
greed for making more always makes gamblers bet high so they could win big but it also reduces the number of game ought to play and increase their risk tier.
What we are talking about was not greed but the shady service provided by some casinos to lure new users and the newbie who didn't do adequate research is always their victim.
We know greed will only lead us to lose more money. Even the winning money that we have earned can also be lost at the gambling table. This is what we have to avoid to enjoy winning money; if we haven't been able to win, we can also avoid bigger losses. Greed will bring us nothing but losing more money. So we must try to overcome greed and not be tempted by attractive offers provided by casinos so that we can stop just in time.
All I've always heard or read about greed is on the negative side of it, everything that have a negative side does also have positive side, no matter how insignificant it seems the positive side is, due to the massive impact the negative side  is making.

Greed, in as bad as it looks, on the negative side, can still push one into winning good amount of money on the positive side.., I was played a crash game, where I set my exit at x200, I was never expecting the game to go beyond x10 or x20 at most, but I set my exit at x200 because it was a small money I felt like loosing, the game started and went further from x10 to x25, x50, at this point, I felt like existing but greed to over me, I left it, at x70, I felt like exiting again, but greed said leave it till x100, I left the game and finally, it arrived at x100, greed said leave it till x200 which Is my automatic exit point, this time, i was no longer comfortable and I exited at x101, made a good profit, the game later crashed at around x302.
So sometimes, greed can really bring some good profit if the player is lucky.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: klidex on April 15, 2023, 07:32:43 PM
greed for making more always makes gamblers bet high so they could win big but it also reduces the number of game ought to play and increase their risk tier.
What we are talking about was not greed but the shady service provided by some casinos to lure new users and the newbie who didn't do adequate research is always their victim.
We know greed will only lead us to lose more money. Even the winning money that we have earned can also be lost at the gambling table. This is what we have to avoid to enjoy winning money; if we haven't been able to win, we can also avoid bigger losses. Greed will bring us nothing but losing more money. So we must try to overcome greed and not be tempted by attractive offers provided by casinos so that we can stop just in time.
Greed is a bad trait and it is difficult to avoid when the gambler is always thinking about his previous losses and always chasing defeat.
in cases that often occur, a gambler who chases their losses finds it difficult to be able to control himself and is in danger of running out of all his balance.
Always plan before gambling, it's better.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hispo on April 15, 2023, 08:15:44 PM
greed for making more always makes gamblers bet high so they could win big but it also reduces the number of game ought to play and increase their risk tier.
What we are talking about was not greed but the shady service provided by some casinos to lure new users and the newbie who didn't do adequate research is always their victim.
We know greed will only lead us to lose more money. Even the winning money that we have earned can also be lost at the gambling table. This is what we have to avoid to enjoy winning money; if we haven't been able to win, we can also avoid bigger losses. Greed will bring us nothing but losing more money. So we must try to overcome greed and not be tempted by attractive offers provided by casinos so that we can stop just in time.
Greed is a bad trait and it is difficult to avoid when the gambler is always thinking about his previous losses and always chasing defeat.
in cases that often occur, a gambler who chases their losses finds it difficult to be able to control himself and is in danger of running out of all his balance.
Always plan before gambling, it's better.

Actually, I have a personal theory that when gambling there is not only greed involved but rather it is a system of fear and greed, pretty much what you would see in the trading market, specially with volatile assets like Bitcoin.

When a gambler is losing money and they continue to gamble, they are not actually in a state of greed but rather one of fear/grief, because they are chasing losses and do not want to leave the casino with a negative net balance.

A greed scenario would be a gambler who is having a good streak and managed to pocket some money and yet, does not log out, but continue to gamble, seeking to further expand their wallet.  ;)


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: capedbaldy on April 15, 2023, 08:38:58 PM
When a gambler is losing money and they continue to gamble, they are not actually in a state of greed but rather one of fear/grief, because they are chasing losses and do not want to leave the casino with a negative net balance.
They should be aware that recovering losses is not guaranteed to be achieved on the next bet, if they do not accept the loss will deposit other funds to recover at least 50% of the total loss. However, I would quit gambling on an unlucky day when the losses were high to overcome another loss, I was sure to get lucky on another day and the loss would soon recover..


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: khaled0111 on April 15, 2023, 11:20:05 PM
When a gambler is losing money and they continue to gamble, they are not actually in a state of greed but rather one of fear/grief, because they are chasing losses and do not want to leave the casino with a negative net balance.
This could also turn into a state of denial which is more dangerous! Some gamblers, especially who have addiction problems, get into a denial state when they start losing big. They usually avoid checking their balance and keep placing bets without checking how much they have left on their wallets. They do this so they can continue playing without feeling bad.
We all know how this always end: a zero balance and few days of sorrow!


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 15, 2023, 11:57:07 PM
When a gambler is losing money and they continue to gamble, they are not actually in a state of greed but rather one of fear/grief, because they are chasing losses and do not want to leave the casino with a negative net balance.
This could also turn into a state of denial which is more dangerous! Some gamblers, especially who have addiction problems, get into a denial state when they start losing big. They usually avoid checking their balance and keep placing bets without checking how much they have left on their wallets. They do this so they can continue playing without feeling bad.
We all know how this always end: a zero balance and few days of sorrow!

i guess, most of us are guilty of such emotion at one point in our gambling life. as we want to recover from our losses, we keep on playing thinking that we may hit some winnings. but acceptance is also a good virtue to prevent more losses. however, gamblers will only accept such defeat once they have no more bankroll to play with. that's when other options are going thru their minds like borrowing money or selling some assets.
but if you are a responsible gambler, you will always check your vault how much you can spend to your games, and not the other way around. spending first before checking your financials.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 16, 2023, 03:46:25 PM
Good advice, and the only way to avoid greed is using small portion of your earnings or extra income to gamble, I have never use more than 40$ to gamble in a whole month.

I made more than 40$ per month but this is the extra money that won't be needing, so yes, I can take my eye off the losses if I lose this 40$ every month.

I also don't gamble every day, people do this and I still can't figure out why, gambling shouldn't be an everyday something because losing is a big part of the gambling.

it's not a business or a job, I think this is why some people lost too much to gambling, their expectations about gambling are blinding, and it's also why they get addicted to gambling.
That's because gambling tempts people to keep trying to get their luck through other gambling games. Who knows, in the next game, these people can get big wins after experiencing several defeats. But indeed, whether it is worth it or not, only they know that we don't need to follow what they are doing. If we can not gamble every day, that is fine and continue because that is what we need to prevent gambling addiction.

Everythings too much would always be that bad and this is why we should really be making ourselves that fully aware on what are the things that we should really be making up decision for the better.
Greed is something that been part of a human being or simply its a natural behavior or character but there are ones who do tolerate out their greediness into a certain extent which they couldnt be able to
handle it out or stop midway which it do end up on a disaster on things which they couldnt be able to control it out. This is why you should really be that mindful in towards your actions.
Speaking about companies or sites that do divert out and decieve people just to get some attention? Its really a bad idea.

Everything in excess will not be good. It is true. We become greedy because we want to get something more than we can, so we forget to control that lust. And when we realize what we are doing is wrong, it is too late because we have already experienced defeat at gambling. And we can't go back but we can prevent it from happening again in the future. And it's up to us alone to prevent it, whether we want it or not.

All I've always heard or read about greed is on the negative side of it, everything that have a negative side does also have positive side, no matter how insignificant it seems the positive side is, due to the massive impact the negative side  is making.

Greed, in as bad as it looks, on the negative side, can still push one into winning good amount of money on the positive side.., I was played a crash game, where I set my exit at x200, I was never expecting the game to go beyond x10 or x20 at most, but I set my exit at x200 because it was a small money I felt like loosing, the game started and went further from x10 to x25, x50, at this point, I felt like existing but greed to over me, I left it, at x70, I felt like exiting again, but greed said leave it till x100, I left the game and finally, it arrived at x100, greed said leave it till x200 which Is my automatic exit point, this time, i was no longer comfortable and I exited at x101, made a good profit, the game later crashed at around x302.
So sometimes, greed can really bring some good profit if the player is lucky.
Indeed greed has a positive side but when compared to the negative side, the negative side is still bigger. If you really get lucky (I mean really lucky than other people), greed can give you victory. But that doesn't always happen because greed won't be good after all. So greed assisted by luck can give winning or profit ;D


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: slapper on April 16, 2023, 07:30:32 PM
When a gambler is losing money and they continue to gamble, they are not actually in a state of greed but rather one of fear/grief, because they are chasing losses and do not want to leave the casino with a negative net balance.
This could also turn into a state of denial which is more dangerous! Some gamblers, especially who have addiction problems, get into a denial state when they start losing big. They usually avoid checking their balance and keep placing bets without checking how much they have left on their wallets. They do this so they can continue playing without feeling bad.
We all know how this always end: a zero balance and few days of sorrow!

i guess, most of us are guilty of such emotion at one point in our gambling life. as we want to recover from our losses, we keep on playing thinking that we may hit some winnings. but acceptance is also a good virtue to prevent more losses. however, gamblers will only accept such defeat once they have no more bankroll to play with. that's when other options are going thru their minds like borrowing money or selling some assets.
but if you are a responsible gambler, you will always check your vault how much you can spend to your games, and not the other way around. spending first before checking your financials.
Gambling? It's like sliding down a gold-plated slope, folks. Easy to get caught in the web of chasing losses. But ask yourself: is the rush of the game worth the disastrous financial crash?

Remember, gambling is a roll of the dice. Losing before doesn't guarantee a win next time. Keep chasing losses? You'll lose even more, bigly.

Let's all pause and think: is it time to stop? Or should we fold and walk away? Plenty of other ways to enjoy life without burning our cash, folks. Let's be smart with gambling and choose financial stability over a short-lived adrenaline rush. Trust me!


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Mate2237 on April 16, 2023, 07:52:46 PM
Even till now I have not really understand the conceptual framework work of this WEB3. I have read some articles to know it but not yet cognisant of the term. And the only way I tried to understand it, it is a term used in the gambling platforms and also to the speedometer of the internet browsing.

greed for making more always makes gamblers bet high so they could win big but it also reduces the number of game ought to play and increase their risk tier.
What we are talking about was not greed but the shady service provided by some casinos to lure new users and the newbie who didn't do adequate research is always their victim.
We know greed will only lead us to lose more money. Even the winning money that we have earned can also be lost at the gambling table. This is what we have to avoid to enjoy winning money; if we haven't been able to win, we can also avoid bigger losses. Greed will bring us nothing but losing more money. So we must try to overcome greed and not be tempted by attractive offers provided by casinos so that we can stop just in time.
Not all gamblers are greed. Some gamblers go away with the little they have made for the day while the greedy ones use the small ones they won in the gambling process and loss all. That is greed because they what to win big a time which is not possible. Those who win big are those who just bet once and relax and monitor their bet. While those who loss always have a multiplication of bet games.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Viscore on April 16, 2023, 08:17:27 PM
But I agree with you that there are lots who just uses the name for free marketing. There are currently not as many Web 3.0 casinos available compared to traditional online casinos. By faking their marketing Web 3.0 casinos, traditional online casinos are just trying to attract users who are interested in the Web 3.0 casino features, even if their platform doesn't actually offer them.
Many new casinos use web 3.0 casino in their last name and slogan to attract the interest of new users, they just modify the user interface to look like web 3.0 but don't actually use the algorithms from web 3.0, it's all marketing strategy related. Currently many top casino platforms have not yet switched to web 3.0 so don't trust new casinos with the implementation of web 3.0 that it offers to new users, top casinos must have reviewed web 3.0 usage and the team has designed a development planning table for web simulation using web 3.0.
While a lot of us would be more attracted with web 3.0 gambling features, but the reality is majority of the top casinos have not reached that far and are still following the current generation of the web. So if we can see casinos advertised as having Web 3.0 features, don’t be deceived easily as it’s only a part of marketing strategy to attract more players to play in their casino site. But eventually, all casinos are really heading there, though it’s still uncertain as to when they will get there.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: nakamura12 on April 16, 2023, 08:32:45 PM

While a lot of us would be more attracted with web 3.0 gambling features, but the reality is majority of the top casinos have not reached that far and are still following the current generation of the web. So if we can see casinos advertised as having Web 3.0 features, don’t be deceived easily as it’s only a part of marketing strategy to attract more players to play in their casino site. But eventually, all casinos are really heading there, though it’s still uncertain as to when they will get there.
[/quote]Even if the casino already used web 3.0 features or whatever it is but when you find an advertisement of a casino, you should expect that it is what they do in order to attract new users and even make the old users stay and spend more funds on theor casino. As it has been in discussion for many times, casinos have money to pay advertisement since casino always win. Everything you see being spread either through messages, ads and whatever form is because it is what they think they can make people attracted and that's what marketing is for.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: erep on April 16, 2023, 08:46:57 PM
While a lot of us would be more attracted with web 3.0 gambling features, but the reality is majority of the top casinos have not reached that far and are still following the current generation of the web. So if we can see casinos advertised as having Web 3.0 features, don’t be deceived easily as it’s only a part of marketing strategy to attract more players to play in their casino site. But eventually, all casinos are really heading there, though it’s still uncertain as to when they will get there.
The web 3.0 casino concept will definitely be developed but so far it's still testing the implementation behind the team's monitor, the team needs time to release the web 3.0 casino and we are waiting for the release of web 3.0 casino from a trusted casino on the forum. Make sure you have to be aware of scam casinos with fake interfaces have implemented in web 3.0, you may have a losing streak at that casino, so don't involve funds in foreign casinos and always option for trusted casinos in forums.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Wiwo on April 16, 2023, 09:29:34 PM
I think web 3 has been an entirely misunderstood term and the disconnection between its theoretical framework from the operations of the casino whose web3 status is questionable, is the bedrock as to why most people now doubt the practical success or existence of that casino that is truly web 3 or just claiming to be to attract players to the casino. And on a more serious note, there is need for the true reflection of Web 3 features in casinos development going forward and who knows maybe we may witness the true practice of Web 3 in casinos in the future but until then we will have to be careful on how we trust that casino who are diving into that space right now since they're not a true reflection of what web 3 promotes which is privacy.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 16, 2023, 10:02:43 PM
While a lot of us would be more attracted with web 3.0 gambling features, but the reality is majority of the top casinos have not reached that far and are still following the current generation of the web. So if we can see casinos advertised as having Web 3.0 features, don’t be deceived easily as it’s only a part of marketing strategy to attract more players to play in their casino site. But eventually, all casinos are really heading there, though it’s still uncertain as to when they will get there.
The web 3.0 casino concept will definitely be developed but so far it's still testing the implementation behind the team's monitor, the team needs time to release the web 3.0 casino and we are waiting for the release of web 3.0 casino from a trusted casino on the forum. Make sure you have to be aware of scam casinos with fake interfaces have implemented in web 3.0, you may have a losing streak at that casino, so don't involve funds in foreign casinos and always option for trusted casinos in forums.

definitely, there will be scammers on the loose again. they will always find a way how to jump on the hype. so if you are a user, better check the site meticulously. don't just listen about the feedbacks, check their system itself. are they really practicing the web 3.0 concept? most will just be copycats of one another. you can get some good insights if you will join their social media channels as you will know how they will respond to critical questions about their project. this is advisable if you are seriously considering to invest on the project.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: coinerer on April 16, 2023, 10:26:41 PM
While a lot of us would be more attracted with web 3.0 gambling features, but the reality is majority of the top casinos have not reached that far and are still following the current generation of the web. So if we can see casinos advertised as having Web 3.0 features, don’t be deceived easily as it’s only a part of marketing strategy to attract more players to play in their casino site. But eventually, all casinos are really heading there, though it’s still uncertain as to when they will get there.
The web 3.0 casino concept will definitely be developed but so far it's still testing the implementation behind the team's monitor, the team needs time to release the web 3.0 casino and we are waiting for the release of web 3.0 casino from a trusted casino on the forum. Make sure you have to be aware of scam casinos with fake interfaces have implemented in web 3.0, you may have a losing streak at that casino, so don't involve funds in foreign casinos and always option for trusted casinos in forums.
Existing trusted casino sites with their own concepts are already popular so they don't seem to be interested in swiping a new concepts. Web3 is a technology of Ethereum.  Web3 is Ethereum Decentralized Applications.  So not all sites seem to be interested in it. because casino sites always focus more on Bitcoin. However, some new sites may enter the market with the Web3 concept, but there is no guarantee that they will be must trusted


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: tusandii on April 17, 2023, 02:01:49 AM
definitely, there will be scammers on the loose again. they will always find a way how to jump on the hype. so if you are a user, better check the site meticulously. don't just listen about the feedbacks, check their system itself. are they really practicing the web 3.0 concept?
It's true, friend, to choose a good casino, gamblers don't only look at feedback and reviews, but also have to do research and try all the features themselves or check the system to prove whether what is stated on the site is real.
There have been cases where casinos used certain phrases in their promotions to gain the interest of gamblers but when research and research turned out that all that was said in the promotions were just fake extra words that were included only for the personal benefit of the casinos themselves.
I'm not saying that new casinos are all bad but it would be better to participate before things that are not desirable happen because we gamble using our personal money not using the free faucets given by the casino.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Alisha-k on April 17, 2023, 08:05:02 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
Asking for KYC verification for a Casino crypto project is not necessary, even most of the traditional bet bookies for sports betting do not

Anything that has a relationship with “gambling” shouldn’t attach KYC verification to its platform because it places a limitation of which some persons may not be able to reach, so yes, asking for KYC Verification I think is a misinterpretation of what web3 and “gambling” represents in general.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 17, 2023, 10:16:46 AM
greed for making more always makes gamblers bet high so they could win big but it also reduces the number of game ought to play and increase their risk tier.
What we are talking about was not greed but the shady service provided by some casinos to lure new users and the newbie who didn't do adequate research is always their victim.
We know greed will only lead us to lose more money. Even the winning money that we have earned can also be lost at the gambling table. This is what we have to avoid to enjoy winning money; if we haven't been able to win, we can also avoid bigger losses. Greed will bring us nothing but losing more money. So we must try to overcome greed and not be tempted by attractive offers provided by casinos so that we can stop just in time.
Not all gamblers are greed. Some gamblers go away with the little they have made for the day while the greedy ones use the small ones they won in the gambling process and loss all. That is greed because they what to win big a time which is not possible. Those who win big are those who just bet once and relax and monitor their bet. While those who loss always have a multiplication of bet games.
Indeed, not all gamblers are greedy and only people who want more returns can be greedy and will lose more than they have. Those who win big are those who manage to get lucky, while those who lose cannot see the situation and how big their chance is to win so they predict wrongly and end up losing. But if a gambler can take care of himself during gambling and feel that he has to get out immediately after a loss, he will survive by not spending more money.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Mauser on April 17, 2023, 02:13:33 PM
definitely, there will be scammers on the loose again. they will always find a way how to jump on the hype. so if you are a user, better check the site meticulously. don't just listen about the feedbacks, check their system itself. are they really practicing the web 3.0 concept?
It's true, friend, to choose a good casino, gamblers don't only look at feedback and reviews, but also have to do research and try all the features themselves or check the system to prove whether what is stated on the site is real.
There have been cases where casinos used certain phrases in their promotions to gain the interest of gamblers but when research and research turned out that all that was said in the promotions were just fake extra words that were included only for the personal benefit of the casinos themselves.
I'm not saying that new casinos are all bad but it would be better to participate before things that are not desirable happen because we gamble using our personal money not using the free faucets given by the casino.

Using buzzwords as part of advertising or special promotions is very common in any marketing department. This is nothing special from the gambling industry. The flyer or banner we see is there to attract us and make us interested in their products. It's not the full legal documents of what we going to play, for that we need to look into the terms and conditions on the main website. These days there will always be a small star at the promotion to tell us that there are limitations of the offers. That's why it's so important that we all make our own research and read all the fine prints before using real money. Casinos act in their own interest and to protect themselves from misuse. It's also good to check online if other gamblers had issues with the casino in the past.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Eternad on April 17, 2023, 02:59:31 PM
Asking for KYC verification for a Casino crypto project is not necessary, even most of the traditional bet bookies for sports betting do not

Anything that has a relationship with “gambling” shouldn’t attach KYC verification to its platform because it places a limitation of which some persons may not be able to reach, so yes, asking for KYC Verification I think is a misinterpretation of what web3 and “gambling” represents in general.

This is a complete misinformation about the purpose of KYC on gambling. Crypto is now being regulated same as fiat due to potential exploit on casino for coin mixing to commit money laundering. KYC is the main requirements for Anti Money Laundering policy given by the license provider to the casino that availing their license for legal purposes. We are now on an era that government is already regulating the use of crypto compared before when crypto is still on the grey area.

Mass adoption incorporates a regulations since many people is already involved. There is no decentralized thing on a business that has a license to operate. Only Bitcoin is the decentralised in crypto and the rest is just a pure bluff.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Dunamisx on April 17, 2023, 04:20:36 PM
We must endeavor to know that every casino has it own way of attracting new gamblers, they have to work extra miles to ensure they don't only invite customers but they also retain them to their site, a casino does not need to work base on what they think is best but also have a consideration on the gamblers preferred taste in gambling, customer service should be their ultimate goal and they must ensure they don't promise terms they wouldn't fulfill when gamblers subscribe for them.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: bangjoe on April 17, 2023, 04:44:44 PM
Asking for KYC verification for a Casino crypto project is not necessary, even most of the traditional bet bookies for sports betting do not

Anything that has a relationship with “gambling” shouldn’t attach KYC verification to its platform because it places a limitation of which some persons may not be able to reach, so yes, asking for KYC Verification I think is a misinterpretation of what web3 and “gambling” represents in general.

This is a complete misinformation about the purpose of KYC on gambling. Crypto is now being regulated same as fiat due to potential exploit on casino for coin mixing to commit money laundering. KYC is the main requirements for Anti Money Laundering policy given by the license provider to the casino that availing their license for legal purposes. We are now on an era that government is already regulating the use of crypto compared before when crypto is still on the grey area.

Mass adoption incorporates a regulations since many people is already involved. There is no decentralized thing on a business that has a license to operate. Only Bitcoin is the decentralised in crypto and the rest is just a pure bluff.

Yes, it is a form of anticipation of money laundering that can be done in gambling, I really understand how centralized business mechanisms cannot be decentralized even though they enter the web3 still for the operation of gambling work mechanisms in a country will be asked for a license according to the rules of gambling which is legally valid, except that the government in certain countries does not require gambling business operators to be asked for customer data to verify things that can be manipulated such as money laundering in gambling and they can claim that they are indeed decentralized, but still if they having a parent is tantamount to being centralized.
Today, nothing is decentralized except bitcoin, any business and any project that has a license from the relevant government and has an operational parent means they have a stage somewhere to run their company, meaning they are centralized.
after all their bookies will always be offering something hype to entice their customers they have to have to lie.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Desmong on April 17, 2023, 10:49:41 PM
KYC is selective by casinos and not all the casinos care about using KYC to make betting. There is need for us to always establish rapport with the casino terms of service so that we are going to know what could make us go wrong when using a casino to get things done. Some will not mind using KYC to punish gamblers restraining them from withdrawing funds.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Newlifebtc on April 17, 2023, 11:01:04 PM
KYC is selective by casinos and not all the casinos care about using KYC to make betting. There is need for us to always establish rapport with the casino terms of service so that we are going to know what could make us go wrong when using a casino to get things done. Some will not mind using KYC to punish gamblers restraining them from withdrawing funds.
I will say that it is a casino platform that does not I have a good intention that does not require or ask for kyc vegetation before betting so many casinos that is strong and the well-known always at the advice their participants to ensure that they have done their kyc verification


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: TheGreatPython on April 18, 2023, 09:36:23 AM
Asking for KYC verification for a Casino crypto project is not necessary, even most of the traditional bet bookies for sports betting do not

Anything that has a relationship with “gambling” shouldn’t attach KYC verification to its platform because it places a limitation of which some persons may not be able to reach, so yes, asking for KYC Verification I think is a misinterpretation of what web3 and “gambling” represents in general.
You should say that asking for KYC verification for a decentralized casino project is not necessary, when it comes to centralized platforms, they have licenses and would definitely require KYC to comply with regulations and AML laws imposed to prevent the businesses from anti-money laundering and other such illegal activities.

When we talk about traditional casinos or sportsbooks, the reason why they didn't require KYC is that there was no such concept back then, KYC was introduced just recently after the rate of illegal activities and cheating was on the rise.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Victorybit1 on April 18, 2023, 10:00:04 AM
In my own opinion, I don't think they are using web3 as strategy to get more users to their site.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 18, 2023, 11:46:13 AM
And for me, I see that to be the worst marketing strategy any casino will ever use, claiming to be Web 3.0 when they literally aren't, because from what I know, a web 3.0 casino is meant to be the advanced feature of the world wide web which uses decentralized blockchain technology. But thou moreover I have not used a web 3.0 gambling casino and wish to use one someday, I don't think KYC should be a compulsory necessity for whichever casino claims to be web 3.0, as that's what differentiates it from the ordinarily normally used casinos
Some projects are careless about this and would do anything to attract new players including spreading false information and claiming to be web 3 is one of such mechanisms used by those casinos to deceive potential clients, this is bad because web 3 was developed to be fully decentralized ruining on layer 2 Networks.

-Anyway, we should always be at alart to make sure we read detailed information about the casino networks and rules before we make an account or deposit on them.
Gambling players are currently required to understand what the actual concept of web-based gambling sites is 3 and must read the TOS at the beginning because many also admit that their sites have adopted Web 3 but end up with KYC

and don't act carelessly and carelessly by filling in a deposit in your gambling account, when you don't really understand the reputation of the gambling site
Web3 or not, we are still that needing to have that KYc considering that there's no such thing about decentralized or whatsoever except into those sites who do run off blockchain-based type of games.
If a certain site do run off with having providers and other common games that we do have today then it cant really be just that possible.If ever there's some web3 then for sure it would really be
that getting that attention and recognition but making use of this word but doesnt really show off then it would really be just living out that kind of impression which would really be ending up
negatively and if you do ran off a business to be on this way then you would definitely get criticisms instead on getting some users to stay on the site.
If the web3.0 casinos are very similar to the ones we currently have, what is the advantage of their existence? what is it that makes it different? because in any case they demand the same thing, kyc, they are always waiting for the same licenses, they do not allow a degree of privacy,they do not offer to play with currencies like Monero, which would already be something very different and would be an option that would go in the other direction, Those kinds of things are what one looks for, that there be innovation, because I know that improvements will be implemented later,updates in all casinos that are not web3.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Apocollapse on April 18, 2023, 03:41:24 PM
In my own opinion, I don't think they are using web3 as strategy to get more users to their site.
If they're not using Web 3.0 as a strategy to get more traffic, they should remove the "Web 3.0" in the first place.

What do you think the reason they're add Web 3.0? other casino which ask the user to gamble through connecting wallet not add Web 3.0 in their page. Web 3.0 casino must be decentralized, high level privacy and transparent. But currently the Web 3.0 casino in this forum are lack of the 3 requirements which I mentioned before.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on April 18, 2023, 05:30:44 PM
We must endeavor to know that every casino has it own way of attracting new gamblers, they have to work extra miles to ensure they don't only invite customers but they also retain them to their site, a casino does not need to work base on what they think is best but also have a consideration on the gamblers preferred taste in gambling, customer service should be their ultimate goal and they must ensure they don't promise terms they wouldn't fulfill when gamblers subscribe for them.
True, if they want to practice what they think is good, then they have to start slowly. I mean don't let new users be surprised what their policy is. Because customer satisfaction is of course the main thing, what must be done is how the casino is liked by its users first. If the user feels comfortable with the casino, they will stick around and maybe they will even invite their friends to join.
The casino must have considered in as much detail as possible things like that. The users will usually be comfortable if fast moving support is one of them.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Hirose UK on April 19, 2023, 07:21:35 AM
In my own opinion, I don't think they are using web3 as strategy to get more users to their site.
If they're not using Web 3.0 as a strategy to get more traffic, they should remove the "Web 3.0" in the first place.

What do you think the reason they're add Web 3.0? other casino which ask the user to gamble through connecting wallet not add Web 3.0 in their page. Web 3.0 casino must be decentralized, high level privacy and transparent. But currently the Web 3.0 casino in this forum are lack of the 3 requirements which I mentioned before.
We all don't understand why some casinos add web3 to their pages is it just a strategy to get more customers or what is clearly still a question. But if it is true that they have a web3-based casino, it seems that there is no need to remove web3 on the start page because it is real and proven to be true, moreover the addition of these words is also their full right.
Not only web3 based casinos but also crypto casinos in general need to be decentralized, high level of privacy and transparent to provide trust and fairness to custemer.
But what you say is true because of the several web3 casinos on the forum, not all of them meet the requirements you mentioned.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: South Park on April 19, 2023, 09:59:50 PM
You should say that asking for KYC verification for a decentralized casino project is not necessary, when it comes to centralized platforms, they have licenses and would definitely require KYC to comply with regulations and AML laws imposed to prevent the businesses from anti-money laundering and other such illegal activities.

When we talk about traditional casinos or sportsbooks, the reason why they didn't require KYC is that there was no such concept back then, KYC was introduced just recently after the rate of illegal activities and cheating was on the rise.
I think people understand that casinos due to their license and the increase on the number of users they serviced thanks to the pandemic are going through a period in which governments are giving them more attention than ever, and as such they need to ask for their gamblers to identify themselves more often and to be more strict on their requirements, but a casino that is supposedly decentralized should never ask for that information, and the moment they do so then we as gamblers lose any incentive we may have had to play there.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 22, 2023, 02:58:33 PM
Well, in every casino they always want to be the most Influential and stand out, not only because of their bonuses, their promotions, which Always reach the players in some way, but what matters is that a casino has enough reach with the main activities of the world For example, a casino that has an influence on sports, that when they play soccer, or are in a UFC fight, the name of the casinos can be seen, for example casinos that are of this Style are: stake.com, bitcasino.io , sportsbet, duelbits, among others, this is the influential guy to look for in the casinos.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Webetcoins on April 22, 2023, 06:08:40 PM
You should say that asking for KYC verification for a decentralized casino project is not necessary, when it comes to centralized platforms, they have licenses and would definitely require KYC to comply with regulations and AML laws imposed to prevent the businesses from anti-money laundering and other such illegal activities.

When we talk about traditional casinos or sportsbooks, the reason why they didn't require KYC is that there was no such concept back then, KYC was introduced just recently after the rate of illegal activities and cheating was on the rise.
I think people understand that casinos due to their license and the increase on the number of users they serviced thanks to the pandemic are going through a period in which governments are giving them more attention than ever, and as such they need to ask for their gamblers to identify themselves more often and to be more strict on their requirements, but a casino that is supposedly decentralized should never ask for that information, and the moment they do so then we as gamblers lose any incentive we may have had to play there.
Obviously, online casinos were never so popular, but it was only after Covid-19 hit the world and there was pandemic and everyone was in self-quarantine, all public places including casinos were closed down and that is when the rise of online gambling started, people started to find ways to do their usual activities, gambling being one of them, so they stumbled upon online casinos.

When people started paying attention to online casinos, crypto-gambling platforms started to become famous, and ultimately, they have become a new trend now, and that is the reason why authorities are always behind them.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 28, 2023, 01:02:41 PM
Asking for KYC verification for a Casino crypto project is not necessary, even most of the traditional bet bookies for sports betting do not

Anything that has a relationship with “gambling” shouldn’t attach KYC verification to its platform because it places a limitation of which some persons may not be able to reach, so yes, asking for KYC Verification I think is a misinterpretation of what web3 and “gambling” represents in general.

This is a complete misinformation about the purpose of KYC on gambling. Crypto is now being regulated same as fiat due to potential exploit on casino for coin mixing to commit money laundering. KYC is the main requirements for Anti Money Laundering policy given by the license provider to the casino that availing their license for legal purposes. We are now on an era that government is already regulating the use of crypto compared before when crypto is still on the grey area.

Mass adoption incorporates a regulations since many people is already involved. There is no decentralized thing on a business that has a license to operate. Only Bitcoin is the decentralised in crypto and the rest is just a pure bluff.

Yes, it is a form of anticipation of money laundering that can be done in gambling, I really understand how centralized business mechanisms cannot be decentralized even though they enter the web3 still for the operation of gambling work mechanisms in a country will be asked for a license according to the rules of gambling which is legally valid, except that the government in certain countries does not require gambling business operators to be asked for customer data to verify things that can be manipulated such as money laundering in gambling and they can claim that they are indeed decentralized, but still if they having a parent is tantamount to being centralized.
Today, nothing is decentralized except bitcoin, any business and any project that has a license from the relevant government and has an operational parent means they have a stage somewhere to run their company, meaning they are centralized.
after all their bookies will always be offering something hype to entice their customers they have to have to lie.

I want to understand one thing,I know that there is a lot of talk about money laundering, and that crypto is used and whatever they want, I can understand that part, because I know that in Colombia things are different, and that the "guerrillas" do use bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to move money, that was a story I saw on the news, which Shocked me but did not surprise me, just as crypto and fiat money are used for bad things, there are also good things, now for a casino I don't see it as viable that they can use it for money laundering, Especially with all the Security options they already have.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Pamadar on April 28, 2023, 01:18:47 PM
Asking for KYC verification for a Casino crypto project is not necessary, even most of the traditional bet bookies for sports betting do not

Anything that has a relationship with “gambling” shouldn’t attach KYC verification to its platform because it places a limitation of which some persons may not be able to reach, so yes, asking for KYC Verification I think is a misinterpretation of what web3 and “gambling” represents in general.

This is a complete misinformation about the purpose of KYC on gambling. Crypto is now being regulated same as fiat due to potential exploit on casino for coin mixing to commit money laundering. KYC is the main requirements for Anti Money Laundering policy given by the license provider to the casino that availing their license for legal purposes. We are now on an era that government is already regulating the use of crypto compared before when crypto is still on the grey area.

Mass adoption incorporates a regulations since many people is already involved. There is no decentralized thing on a business that has a license to operate. Only Bitcoin is the decentralised in crypto and the rest is just a pure bluff.

Yes, it is a form of anticipation of money laundering that can be done in gambling, I really understand how centralized business mechanisms cannot be decentralized even though they enter the web3 still for the operation of gambling work mechanisms in a country will be asked for a license according to the rules of gambling which is legally valid, except that the government in certain countries does not require gambling business operators to be asked for customer data to verify things that can be manipulated such as money laundering in gambling and they can claim that they are indeed decentralized, but still if they having a parent is tantamount to being centralized.
Today, nothing is decentralized except bitcoin, any business and any project that has a license from the relevant government and has an operational parent means they have a stage somewhere to run their company, meaning they are centralized.
after all their bookies will always be offering something hype to entice their customers they have to have to lie.

I want to understand one thing,I know that there is a lot of talk about money laundering, and that crypto is used and whatever they want, I can understand that part, because I know that in Colombia things are different, and that the "guerrillas" do use bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to move money, that was a story I saw on the news, which Shocked me but did not surprise me, just as crypto and fiat money are used for bad things, there are also good things, now for a casino I don't see it as viable that they can use it for money laundering, Especially with all the Security options they already have.


Fiat and crypto serve the same thing,

so it's understandable that both are being an instrument for money laundering.
I see the point where crypto gambling is being dragged when we talk about money laundering.

Though just like what you have said, there are safety precaution and rules that the site is using to protect
their business.

Knowing that they are subject to this kind of issues, they needed to comply with the government rules and needed
to make sure that they are open to anything that will clear their business.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: maydna on April 28, 2023, 03:40:46 PM
You should say that asking for KYC verification for a decentralized casino project is not necessary, when it comes to centralized platforms, they have licenses and would definitely require KYC to comply with regulations and AML laws imposed to prevent the businesses from anti-money laundering and other such illegal activities.

When we talk about traditional casinos or sportsbooks, the reason why they didn't require KYC is that there was no such concept back then, KYC was introduced just recently after the rate of illegal activities and cheating was on the rise.
I think people understand that casinos due to their license and the increase on the number of users they serviced thanks to the pandemic are going through a period in which governments are giving them more attention than ever, and as such they need to ask for their gamblers to identify themselves more often and to be more strict on their requirements, but a casino that is supposedly decentralized should never ask for that information, and the moment they do so then we as gamblers lose any incentive we may have had to play there.
Besides that, with the increase in illegal activities involving casinos and fraud committed by casinos, the government felt the need to ask them for KYC and pressure their members to do it. Casinos also don't want to get involved in problems that can disrupt their business, so casinos also apply KYC to their members. And although decentralized casinos don't require their members to do KYC, one day, they will ask it of their members due to government oversight. This makes us vigilant because the casino can apply it at any time.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: khaled0111 on April 28, 2023, 09:34:06 PM
I want to understand one thing,I know that there is a lot of talk about money laundering, and that crypto is used and whatever they want, I can understand that part, because I know that in Colombia things are different, and that the "guerrillas" do use bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to move money, that was a story I saw on the news, which Shocked me but did not surprise me, just as crypto and fiat money are used for bad things, there are also good things, now for a casino I don't see it as viable that they can use it for money laundering, Especially with all the Security options they already have.
If a casino enforces kyc to all its customers plus having some other measures in place such as high wagering requirements before being able to withdraw, not allowing users to withdraw in other coins than the coin which was used when depositing (no internal exchange).. then, you are right, it won't be possible to use such casino for money laundering.
Regardless of how much privacy advocates hate kyc policies, but it's still needed to prevent illicit activities such as money laundering.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 28, 2023, 09:37:13 PM
I want to understand one thing,I know that there is a lot of talk about money laundering, and that crypto is used and whatever they want, I can understand that part, because I know that in Colombia things are different, and that the "guerrillas" do use bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to move money, that was a story I saw on the news, which Shocked me but did not surprise me, just as crypto and fiat money are used for bad things, there are also good things, now for a casino I don't see it as viable that they can use it for money laundering, Especially with all the Security options they already have.
If a casino enforces kyc to all its customers plus having some other measures in place such as high wagering requirements before being able to withdraw, not allowing users to withdraw in other coins than the coin which was used when depositing (no internal exchange).. then, you are right, it won't be possible to use such casino for money laundering.
Regardless of how much privacy advocates hate kyc policies, but it's still needed to prevent illicit activities such as money laundering.

this is why most licensed gambling sites are requiring kyc from their customers especially if they are exceeding their limits. to maintain their license from the jurisdiction of operations, they will surely apply the kyc procedure. because with their license, and when it comes to audit and they saw big numbers without kyc, for sure their license will be put into question.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Wakate on April 28, 2023, 11:52:33 PM
I want to understand one thing,I know that there is a lot of talk about money laundering, and that crypto is used and whatever they want, I can understand that part, because I know that in Colombia things are different, and that the "guerrillas" do use bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to move money, that was a story I saw on the news, which Shocked me but did not surprise me, just as crypto and fiat money are used for bad things, there are also good things, now for a casino I don't see it as viable that they can use it for money laundering, Especially with all the Security options they already have.
If a casino enforces kyc to all its customers plus having some other measures in place such as high wagering requirements before being able to withdraw, not allowing users to withdraw in other coins than the coin which was used when depositing (no internal exchange).. then, you are right, it won't be possible to use such casino for money laundering.
Regardless of how much privacy advocates hate kyc policies, but it's still needed to prevent illicit activities such as money laundering.
Is like we have forgotten that many casinos are  established for the sake of making more profits that is why it will be very rare to see casino that would establish this kind of law on there customers. This will make many gamblers to leave the casino for other better ones if they find out that the rules are too severe for them to accept or continue using.

If can't create a business and make it so strick that even the little customers that you have will not want to use your platform again because of what they have experienced so far from subscribing to your product. If the aim of establishing a business is not meant then that would be a waste of time and resources.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 05, 2023, 01:18:22 AM
You should say that asking for KYC verification for a decentralized casino project is not necessary, when it comes to centralized platforms, they have licenses and would definitely require KYC to comply with regulations and AML laws imposed to prevent the businesses from anti-money laundering and other such illegal activities.

When we talk about traditional casinos or sportsbooks, the reason why they didn't require KYC is that there was no such concept back then, KYC was introduced just recently after the rate of illegal activities and cheating was on the rise.
I think people understand that casinos due to their license and the increase on the number of users they serviced thanks to the pandemic are going through a period in which governments are giving them more attention than ever, and as such they need to ask for their gamblers to identify themselves more often and to be more strict on their requirements, but a casino that is supposedly decentralized should never ask for that information, and the moment they do so then we as gamblers lose any incentive we may have had to play there.
Obviously, online casinos were never so popular, but it was only after Covid-19 hit the world and there was pandemic and everyone was in self-quarantine, all public places including casinos were closed down and that is when the rise of online gambling started, people started to find ways to do their usual activities, gambling being one of them, so they stumbled upon online casinos.

When people started paying attention to online casinos, crypto-gambling platforms started to become famous, and ultimately, they have become a new trend now, and that is the reason why authorities are always behind them.
You are right, in 2020-2021 things got very hard all over the world, the jobs, the people who did not have any,many were fired and of course everything Pointed a lot towards online jobs, in that order of ideas is how a great increase in more players in the casinos, how bad it is that they went to the casinos to try to multiply their money, some succeeded,but I think that the majority lost and that was the descandent for the casinos to have such a large number of customers world level,the new users were produced in the casinos,thanks to them some casinos still have many clients.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: xSkylarx on May 05, 2023, 01:36:56 AM
You should say that asking for KYC verification for a decentralized casino project is not necessary, when it comes to centralized platforms, they have licenses and would definitely require KYC to comply with regulations and AML laws imposed to prevent the businesses from anti-money laundering and other such illegal activities.

When we talk about traditional casinos or sportsbooks, the reason why they didn't require KYC is that there was no such concept back then, KYC was introduced just recently after the rate of illegal activities and cheating was on the rise.
I think people understand that casinos due to their license and the increase on the number of users they serviced thanks to the pandemic are going through a period in which governments are giving them more attention than ever, and as such they need to ask for their gamblers to identify themselves more often and to be more strict on their requirements, but a casino that is supposedly decentralized should never ask for that information, and the moment they do so then we as gamblers lose any incentive we may have had to play there.
Obviously, online casinos were never so popular, but it was only after Covid-19 hit the world and there was pandemic and everyone was in self-quarantine, all public places including casinos were closed down and that is when the rise of online gambling started, people started to find ways to do their usual activities, gambling being one of them, so they stumbled upon online casinos.

When people started paying attention to online casinos, crypto-gambling platforms started to become famous, and ultimately, they have become a new trend now, and that is the reason why authorities are always behind them.
You are right, in 2020-2021 things got very hard all over the world, the jobs, the people who did not have any,many were fired and of course everything Pointed a lot towards online jobs, in that order of ideas is how a great increase in more players in the casinos, how bad it is that they went to the casinos to try to multiply their money, some succeeded,but I think that the majority lost and that was the descandent for the casinos to have such a large number of customers world level,the new users were produced in the casinos,thanks to them some casinos still have many clients.


That is also the year that most of people ive known are doing gambling online on their own homes because of boredom and also trying their luck because they are really desperate of money because they dont have work that time. That is really the boom of casino which ive seen there are a lot of online casinos coming out everyday and most of the post in social media are about gambling. Right there are still a lot of gambling casino that is promoted by influencers


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: tusandii on May 05, 2023, 02:57:46 AM
You are right, in 2020-2021 things got very hard all over the world, the jobs, the people who did not have any,many were fired and of course everything Pointed a lot towards online jobs, in that order of ideas is how a great increase in more players in the casinos, how bad it is that they went to the casinos to try to multiply their money, some succeeded,but I think that the majority lost and that was the descandent for the casinos to have such a large number of customers world level,the new users were produced in the casinos,thanks to them some casinos still have many clients.
Yes, I also remember at that time when the Covid-19 pandemic was still very much in an uproar that swept across the world to the point where it actually caused economic and financial inflation where many people lost their jobs and sources of livelihood.
There are many people who have started to twist their minds by looking for income online and they choose to enter the gambling industry with the aim of making more money with small capital.
But unfortunately not all of them are successful because in reality gambling is not for work and gambling is not a place that can easily be made a place of breadwinners.
And since the pandemic until now, more people are starting to enter the gambling industry.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: borovichok on May 05, 2023, 04:56:14 AM
Yes, I also remember at that time when the Covid-19 pandemic was still very much in an uproar that swept across the world to the point where it actually caused economic and financial inflation where many people lost their jobs and sources of livelihood.
There are many people who have started to twist their minds by looking for income online and they choose to enter the gambling industry with the aim of making more money with small capital.
But unfortunately not all of them are successful because in reality gambling is not for work and gambling is not a place that can easily be made a place of breadwinners.
And since the pandemic until now, more people are starting to enter the gambling industry.
COVID-19 was a difficult moment; many people lost their jobs as a result of the government's massive lockdown; many individuals were rendered jobless, particularly those living in the most afflicted countries. Some turned to online casino and football gambling, betting extra money every day in the hopes of feeding themselves or their families. I've been in that situation before; I know how it feels to be unemployed and to struggle every day just to feed. People are still going through hard circumstances over there, so we shouldn't blame anyone who has become addicted to gambling, all in the name to feed, surviving is winning, if a tight gambler wants to survived, he or she needs to keep constant winning, that's how the whole gambling system works.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Bayan_D40 on May 05, 2023, 05:48:56 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.

In relation to KYC, they do not inherently oppose the tenets of Web 3.0. Despite the goal of Web 3.0 to establish a more decentralized and transparent framework, it does not imply that every aspect of the system will be entirely anonymous or exempt from authentication. In reality, numerous Web 3.0 initiatives mandate a certain degree of identity verification to abide by legal and regulatory standards, including AML and KYC regulations.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: danadc on May 05, 2023, 04:31:42 PM
Yes, I also remember at that time when the Covid-19 pandemic was still very much in an uproar that swept across the world to the point where it actually caused economic and financial inflation where many people lost their jobs and sources of livelihood.
There are many people who have started to twist their minds by looking for income online and they choose to enter the gambling industry with the aim of making more money with small capital.
But unfortunately not all of them are successful because in reality gambling is not for work and gambling is not a place that can easily be made a place of breadwinners.
And since the pandemic until now, more people are starting to enter the gambling industry.
COVID-19 was a difficult moment; many people lost their jobs as a result of the government's massive lockdown; many individuals were rendered jobless, particularly those living in the most afflicted countries. Some turned to online casino and football gambling, betting extra money every day in the hopes of feeding themselves or their families. I've been in that situation before; I know how it feels to be unemployed and to struggle every day just to feed. People are still going through hard circumstances over there, so we shouldn't blame anyone who has become addicted to gambling, all in the name to feed, surviving is winning, if a tight gambler wants to survived, he or she needs to keep constant winning, that's how the whole gambling system works.

It became very difficult for me when the pandemic arrived, I am in a country that is not mine and I had a job that required me to be almost every day, I only had 1 day off, and what I could do was sleep, rest a lot, because sometimes the need to pay for everything is something that has to be immediate, paying rent, buying food is something that will always be for me, so the alternatives were to look for jobs online, do something to support yourself and the other The easiest option was to play in a casino, that was the immediate way out but the most risky, I was tempted to do it but I didn't, I don't know what would have happened to my life depending on my money at that time.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: 348Judah on May 05, 2023, 05:12:42 PM
I want to understand one thing,I know that there is a lot of talk about money laundering, and that crypto is used and whatever they want, I can understand that part, because I know that in Colombia things are different, and that the "guerrillas" do use bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to move money, that was a story I saw on the news, which Shocked me but did not surprise me, just as crypto and fiat money are used for bad things, there are also good things, now for a casino I don't see it as viable that they can use it for money laundering, Especially with all the Security options they already have.
If a casino enforces kyc to all its customers plus having some other measures in place such as high wagering requirements before being able to withdraw, not allowing users to withdraw in other coins than the coin which was used when depositing (no internal exchange).. then, you are right, it won't be possible to use such casino for money laundering.
Regardless of how much privacy advocates hate kyc policies, but it's still needed to prevent illicit activities such as money laundering.

Let be honest here a casino can not act the function of government agencies in the control of scam related to money laundering when the AML agencies themselves couldn't control the overall challenges with scam related loots from exchanges, to an extent some of the KYC casinos also serve a little function of an exchange since you can deposit your money with them, exchange it for another currency as long as their site policy support it.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 10, 2023, 01:03:28 AM
Asking for KYC verification for a Casino crypto project is not necessary, even most of the traditional bet bookies for sports betting do not

Anything that has a relationship with “gambling” shouldn’t attach KYC verification to its platform because it places a limitation of which some persons may not be able to reach, so yes, asking for KYC Verification I think is a misinterpretation of what web3 and “gambling” represents in general.

This is a complete misinformation about the purpose of KYC on gambling. Crypto is now being regulated same as fiat due to potential exploit on casino for coin mixing to commit money laundering. KYC is the main requirements for Anti Money Laundering policy given by the license provider to the casino that availing their license for legal purposes. We are now on an era that government is already regulating the use of crypto compared before when crypto is still on the grey area.

Mass adoption incorporates a regulations since many people is already involved. There is no decentralized thing on a business that has a license to operate. Only Bitcoin is the decentralised in crypto and the rest is just a pure bluff.

Yes, it is a form of anticipation of money laundering that can be done in gambling, I really understand how centralized business mechanisms cannot be decentralized even though they enter the web3 still for the operation of gambling work mechanisms in a country will be asked for a license according to the rules of gambling which is legally valid, except that the government in certain countries does not require gambling business operators to be asked for customer data to verify things that can be manipulated such as money laundering in gambling and they can claim that they are indeed decentralized, but still if they having a parent is tantamount to being centralized.
Today, nothing is decentralized except bitcoin, any business and any project that has a license from the relevant government and has an operational parent means they have a stage somewhere to run their company, meaning they are centralized.
after all their bookies will always be offering something hype to entice their customers they have to have to lie.

I want to understand one thing,I know that there is a lot of talk about money laundering, and that crypto is used and whatever they want, I can understand that part, because I know that in Colombia things are different, and that the "guerrillas" do use bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to move money, that was a story I saw on the news, which Shocked me but did not surprise me, just as crypto and fiat money are used for bad things, there are also good things, now for a casino I don't see it as viable that they can use it for money laundering, Especially with all the Security options they already have.


Fiat and crypto serve the same thing,

so it's understandable that both are being an instrument for money laundering.
I see the point where crypto gambling is being dragged when we talk about money laundering.

Though just like what you have said, there are safety precaution and rules that the site is using to protect
their business.

Knowing that they are subject to this kind of issues, they needed to comply with the government rules and needed
to make sure that they are open to anything that will clear their business.
It may be, I do not deny that they can use it for money laundering, but it is like something silly on the part of those who are going to do it, I would call them newbies, because they obviously know very well that casinos, when they see strange behavior or actions, usually suspend the account , and since they have to go through a kyc process, it is not pleasant at all, because they expose their data or those who have been paid so that they can do such a thing, there are methods to launder money that are much more effective than putting it in the casino, in In this case, it is best to put things in a safer place (which the draftsman knows very well) and not expose his money, of course it is my personal perception, governments launder money, but they do not use casinos or exchanges.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Supreemo on May 10, 2023, 03:28:49 AM
Yes, I also remember at that time when the Covid-19 pandemic was still very much in an uproar that swept across the world to the point where it actually caused economic and financial inflation where many people lost their jobs and sources of livelihood.
There are many people who have started to twist their minds by looking for income online and they choose to enter the gambling industry with the aim of making more money with small capital.
But unfortunately not all of them are successful because in reality gambling is not for work and gambling is not a place that can easily be made a place of breadwinners.
And since the pandemic until now, more people are starting to enter the gambling industry.
COVID-19 was a difficult moment; many people lost their jobs as a result of the government's massive lockdown; many individuals were rendered jobless, particularly those living in the most afflicted countries. Some turned to online casino and football gambling, betting extra money every day in the hopes of feeding themselves or their families. I've been in that situation before; I know how it feels to be unemployed and to struggle every day just to feed. People are still going through hard circumstances over there, so we shouldn't blame anyone who has become addicted to gambling, all in the name to feed, surviving is winning, if a tight gambler wants to survived, he or she needs to keep constant winning, that's how the whole gambling system works.

It became very difficult for me when the pandemic arrived, I am in a country that is not mine and I had a job that required me to be almost every day, I only had 1 day off, and what I could do was sleep, rest a lot, because sometimes the need to pay for everything is something that has to be immediate, paying rent, buying food is something that will always be for me, so the alternatives were to look for jobs online, do something to support yourself and the other The easiest option was to play in a casino, that was the immediate way out but the most risky, I was tempted to do it but I didn't, I don't know what would have happened to my life depending on my money at that time.

during that pandemic surge in my country, i have a lot of neighbors playing online casino not only for fun but also to earn money since most of them lose their jobs or even if they still have work, the problem is the work system in our country became skeletal, which means there are times you can work and then the next week you'll have to rest the whole week. that was their way to accomodate lots of personnel who still wanted to work and support their families. i was also tempted to play casino but I decided to scour the internet at that time to find more opportunities although i can clearly see that the opportunities are very low and the competition increases tremendously.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 11, 2023, 04:31:39 AM
I want to understand one thing,I know that there is a lot of talk about money laundering, and that crypto is used and whatever they want, I can understand that part, because I know that in Colombia things are different, and that the "guerrillas" do use bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to move money, that was a story I saw on the news, which Shocked me but did not surprise me, just as crypto and fiat money are used for bad things, there are also good things, now for a casino I don't see it as viable that they can use it for money laundering, Especially with all the Security options they already have.
If a casino enforces kyc to all its customers plus having some other measures in place such as high wagering requirements before being able to withdraw, not allowing users to withdraw in other coins than the coin which was used when depositing (no internal exchange).. then, you are right, it won't be possible to use such casino for money laundering.
Regardless of how much privacy advocates hate kyc policies, but it's still needed to prevent illicit activities such as money laundering.

this is why most licensed gambling sites are requiring kyc from their customers especially if they are exceeding their limits. to maintain their license from the jurisdiction of operations, they will surely apply the kyc procedure. because with their license, and when it comes to audit and they saw big numbers without kyc, for sure their license will be put into question.

Basically let's be clear, the kyc are a Requirement of governments and third Parties to know who are the ones who Play and how much they play, how much money they have available to play, spend and win, in order to have them on a list where in the future it can be used to apply Certain taxes that have not been paid during the Duration of what that person has played,that's the Way I see it, a leak of those Documents and that's it, with that they have so that they have the necessary Information for them to do or extort Someone.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: slapper on May 11, 2023, 10:07:39 AM
I want to understand one thing,I know that there is a lot of talk about money laundering, and that crypto is used and whatever they want, I can understand that part, because I know that in Colombia things are different, and that the "guerrillas" do use bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to move money, that was a story I saw on the news, which Shocked me but did not surprise me, just as crypto and fiat money are used for bad things, there are also good things, now for a casino I don't see it as viable that they can use it for money laundering, Especially with all the Security options they already have.
If a casino enforces kyc to all its customers plus having some other measures in place such as high wagering requirements before being able to withdraw, not allowing users to withdraw in other coins than the coin which was used when depositing (no internal exchange).. then, you are right, it won't be possible to use such casino for money laundering.
Regardless of how much privacy advocates hate kyc policies, but it's still needed to prevent illicit activities such as money laundering.

this is why most licensed gambling sites are requiring kyc from their customers especially if they are exceeding their limits. to maintain their license from the jurisdiction of operations, they will surely apply the kyc procedure. because with their license, and when it comes to audit and they saw big numbers without kyc, for sure their license will be put into question.

Basically let's be clear, the kyc are a Requirement of governments and third Parties to know who are the ones who Play and how much they play, how much money they have available to play, spend and win, in order to have them on a list where in the future it can be used to apply Certain taxes that have not been paid during the Duration of what that person has played,that's the Way I see it, a leak of those Documents and that's it, with that they have so that they have the necessary Information for them to do or extort Someone.

KYC, that sweet-sour dance between legit gambling sites and players! Sure, it's a mandate from the powers that be, but what if there's a secret plot? On the surface, it's about following rules, keeping licenses. But what if they're collecting dossiers on our habits, ready to spring tax traps? A financial watchlist – exciting! And don't forget data leak risks. One misstep, and boom! Our precious info in the hands of bad guys. It's like offering a jackpot of personal data to mischief-makers. What a game!


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: jostorres on May 13, 2023, 06:28:59 AM
during that pandemic surge in my country, i have a lot of neighbors playing online casino not only for fun but also to earn money since most of them lose their jobs or even if they still have work, the problem is the work system in our country became skeletal, which means there are times you can work and then the next week you'll have to rest the whole week. that was their way to accomodate lots of personnel who still wanted to work and support their families. i was also tempted to play casino but I decided to scour the internet at that time to find more opportunities although i can clearly see that the opportunities are very low and the competition increases tremendously.
I don't see how gambling can be a way for them to earn a livelihood even if it's for a very short period of time. If they work a whole week to earn a few bucks and then spend it on gambling, how are they supposed to eat food and have other basic necessities that can only be completed by using money? Since there is no guarantee that they won't lose in gambling.

If I have a family, I earn $50 a week and spend $30 from that on gambling only in the hope of earning something extra and managing to lose it all, I will have to survive the whole week since I don't have any other source of income.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on May 13, 2023, 07:39:04 AM
Asking for KYC verification for a Casino crypto project is not necessary, even most of the traditional bet bookies for sports betting do not

Anything that has a relationship with “gambling” shouldn’t attach KYC verification to its platform because it places a limitation of which some persons may not be able to reach, so yes, asking for KYC Verification I think is a misinterpretation of what web3 and “gambling” represents in general.

This is a complete misinformation about the purpose of KYC on gambling. Crypto is now being regulated same as fiat due to potential exploit on casino for coin mixing to commit money laundering. KYC is the main requirements for Anti Money Laundering policy given by the license provider to the casino that availing their license for legal purposes. We are now on an era that government is already regulating the use of crypto compared before when crypto is still on the grey area.

Mass adoption incorporates a regulations since many people is already involved. There is no decentralized thing on a business that has a license to operate. Only Bitcoin is the decentralised in crypto and the rest is just a pure bluff.

Yes, it is a form of anticipation of money laundering that can be done in gambling, I really understand how centralized business mechanisms cannot be decentralized even though they enter the web3 still for the operation of gambling work mechanisms in a country will be asked for a license according to the rules of gambling which is legally valid, except that the government in certain countries does not require gambling business operators to be asked for customer data to verify things that can be manipulated such as money laundering in gambling and they can claim that they are indeed decentralized, but still if they having a parent is tantamount to being centralized.
Today, nothing is decentralized except bitcoin, any business and any project that has a license from the relevant government and has an operational parent means they have a stage somewhere to run their company, meaning they are centralized.
after all their bookies will always be offering something hype to entice their customers they have to have to lie.

I want to understand one thing,I know that there is a lot of talk about money laundering, and that crypto is used and whatever they want, I can understand that part, because I know that in Colombia things are different, and that the "guerrillas" do use bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to move money, that was a story I saw on the news, which Shocked me but did not surprise me, just as crypto and fiat money are used for bad things, there are also good things, now for a casino I don't see it as viable that they can use it for money laundering, Especially with all the Security options they already have.


Fiat and crypto serve the same thing,

so it's understandable that both are being an instrument for money laundering.
I see the point where crypto gambling is being dragged when we talk about money laundering.

Though just like what you have said, there are safety precaution and rules that the site is using to protect
their business.

Knowing that they are subject to this kind of issues, they needed to comply with the government rules and needed
to make sure that they are open to anything that will clear their business.

      -  In addition to what you said it is clear that fiat and cryptocurrency can both be used for bad reasons or purposes.
Now the question is apart from gambling, where else can they pass what they say is money laundering?

But even so, no matter how good the government is at blocking money laundering, if people are good at it, they can still do it for sure.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ethereumhunter on May 13, 2023, 12:32:45 PM
during that pandemic surge in my country, i have a lot of neighbors playing online casino not only for fun but also to earn money since most of them lose their jobs or even if they still have work, the problem is the work system in our country became skeletal, which means there are times you can work and then the next week you'll have to rest the whole week. that was their way to accomodate lots of personnel who still wanted to work and support their families. i was also tempted to play casino but I decided to scour the internet at that time to find more opportunities although i can clearly see that the opportunities are very low and the competition increases tremendously.
I don't see how gambling can be a way for them to earn a livelihood even if it's for a very short period of time. If they work a whole week to earn a few bucks and then spend it on gambling, how are they supposed to eat food and have other basic necessities that can only be completed by using money? Since there is no guarantee that they won't lose in gambling.

If I have a family, I earn $50 a week and spend $30 from that on gambling only in the hope of earning something extra and managing to lose it all, I will have to survive the whole week since I don't have any other source of income.
Maybe they really can allocate the money they get for various purposes, including gambling so they don't have any difficulties. But that's not all who can do it because I think some people can't and instead use all their salary money to gamble, hoping they can win a lot of money from gambling.

And if we feel that the salary we get can't be used for gambling, we don't need to force ourselves to keep trying because it will be a waste because we can lose all the money. It's better for us to keep using it for the necessities of life because it's the most important thing for us and our families.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Negotiation on May 14, 2023, 03:15:39 AM
I want to understand one thing,I know that there is a lot of talk about money laundering, and that crypto is used and whatever they want, I can understand that part, because I know that in Colombia things are different, and that the "guerrillas" do use bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to move money, that was a story I saw on the news, which Shocked me but did not surprise me, just as crypto and fiat money are used for bad things, there are also good things, now for a casino I don't see it as viable that they can use it for money laundering, Especially with all the Security options they already have.
If a casino enforces kyc to all its customers plus having some other measures in place such as high wagering requirements before being able to withdraw, not allowing users to withdraw in other coins than the coin which was used when depositing (no internal exchange).. then, you are right, it won't be possible to use such casino for money laundering.
Regardless of how much privacy advocates hate kyc policies, but it's still needed to prevent illicit activities such as money laundering.

Let be honest here a casino can not act the function of government agencies in the control of scam related to money laundering when the AML agencies themselves couldn't control the overall challenges with scam related loots from exchanges, to an extent some of the KYC casinos also serve a little function of an exchange since you can deposit your money with them, exchange it for another currency as long as their site policy support it.
Many organizations that do not support KYC casinos but this AML organization will actively prevent money laundering and with it activities that facilitate money laundering or terrorist or criminal activities. To comply with AML, as per the applicable laws and therefore all officers, employees and engaged producers of this company must adhere to this standard so that its products and services are not used for money laundering purposes. The AML Committee's responsibility is to report suspicious activity to law enforcement or other required reporting to regulatory agencies.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: tusandii on May 14, 2023, 07:54:12 AM
Yes, I also remember at that time when the Covid-19 pandemic was still very much in an uproar that swept across the world to the point where it actually caused economic and financial inflation where many people lost their jobs and sources of livelihood.
There are many people who have started to twist their minds by looking for income online and they choose to enter the gambling industry with the aim of making more money with small capital.
But unfortunately not all of them are successful because in reality gambling is not for work and gambling is not a place that can easily be made a place of breadwinners.
And since the pandemic until now, more people are starting to enter the gambling industry.
COVID-19 was a difficult moment; many people lost their jobs as a result of the government's massive lockdown; many individuals were rendered jobless, particularly those living in the most afflicted countries. Some turned to online casino and football gambling, betting extra money every day in the hopes of feeding themselves or their families. I've been in that situation before; I know how it feels to be unemployed and to struggle every day just to feed. People are still going through hard circumstances over there, so we shouldn't blame anyone who has become addicted to gambling, all in the name to feed, surviving is winning, if a tight gambler wants to survived, he or she needs to keep constant winning, that's how the whole gambling system works.
However, what is done in such conditions can actually worsen the economic or financial situation because they decide to gamble to get some money so they can support their family.
I know how I feel because at that time I also lost my job and had a business crash so my mind was always looking for ways to turn a little money into more even if what I did was wrong.
Yes and I don't blame anyone for gambling addiction because it is a choice and I'm sure they must have considered everything but due to economic factors and demands one way or another it will be done.

But in reality, many people from all over the world are involved in gambling during the Covid-19 pandemic.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 14, 2023, 05:08:11 PM
I want to understand one thing,I know that there is a lot of talk about money laundering, and that crypto is used and whatever they want, I can understand that part, because I know that in Colombia things are different, and that the "guerrillas" do use bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to move money, that was a story I saw on the news, which Shocked me but did not surprise me, just as crypto and fiat money are used for bad things, there are also good things, now for a casino I don't see it as viable that they can use it for money laundering, Especially with all the Security options they already have.
If a casino enforces kyc to all its customers plus having some other measures in place such as high wagering requirements before being able to withdraw, not allowing users to withdraw in other coins than the coin which was used when depositing (no internal exchange).. then, you are right, it won't be possible to use such casino for money laundering.
Regardless of how much privacy advocates hate kyc policies, but it's still needed to prevent illicit activities such as money laundering.
Yes, of course,what happens I know that the KYC issue is very open and lends itself to giving an opinion on a whole series of thoughts that are very valid, but if we go to the origin of all this, from Satochi, he created Bitcoin to Avoid these things , then through governments, banks, third parties, that is, whoever is obligated to give data when in reality the reason for which bitcoin and crypto was created should be respected,and one of those is to manage money,whatever, that the Transactions are Fast and apart from not giving Verification or data, because that is what the fiat system is for, which is what they control, well from that it is my idea.




Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Webetcoins on May 15, 2023, 07:48:55 AM
COVID-19 was a difficult moment; many people lost their jobs as a result of the government's massive lockdown; many individuals were rendered jobless, particularly those living in the most afflicted countries. Some turned to online casino and football gambling, betting extra money every day in the hopes of feeding themselves or their families. I've been in that situation before; I know how it feels to be unemployed and to struggle every day just to feed. People are still going through hard circumstances over there, so we shouldn't blame anyone who has become addicted to gambling, all in the name to feed, surviving is winning, if a tight gambler wants to survived, he or she needs to keep constant winning, that's how the whole gambling system works.
However, what is done in such conditions can actually worsen the economic or financial situation because they decide to gamble to get some money so they can support their family.
I know how I feel because at that time I also lost my job and had a business crash so my mind was always looking for ways to turn a little money into more even if what I did was wrong.
Yes and I don't blame anyone for gambling addiction because it is a choice and I'm sure they must have considered everything but due to economic factors and demands one way or another it will be done.

But in reality, many people from all over the world are involved in gambling during the Covid-19 pandemic.
Choosing to gamble to have a better financial situation is a bad idea in the first place. One should think of doing something else but never get themselves into gambling when they already know that they have limited resources which they need to utilize in a way which can make it grow and gambling is not that thing since you can lose it all in no time with it.

I understand how difficult it is to not have a job or an income to support your family and have basic necessities but gambling is never a problem solver, people tend to gamble when they have more money than they need, not when they have a limited amount and want to make it more.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: rby on May 15, 2023, 08:02:04 AM
during that pandemic surge in my country, i have a lot of neighbors playing online casino not only for fun but also to earn money since most of them lose their jobs or even if they still have work, the problem is the work system in our country became skeletal, which means there are times you can work and then the next week you'll have to rest the whole week. that was their way to accomodate lots of personnel who still wanted to work and support their families. i was also tempted to play casino but I decided to scour the internet at that time to find more opportunities although i can clearly see that the opportunities are very low and the competition increases tremendously.
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People gambling to earn money is a serious issue. The best form of gambling should be for fun and when money comes, you take it as a compensation for time spent. Having little money and heavily involving in gambling is a time bomb waiting for explosion.
I have wanted to involve in serious gambling but later withdrew my intention because it is not yet time.
I will fully involve in gambling when I am super super rich. By this time, I wouldn't have to check my account balance each time I gamble. When you attain that level, it is when you will enjoy the act of gambling.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: usekevin on May 15, 2023, 08:09:31 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.


When the website need of kyc,it will have minimum number of people.Most of the gamblers will not like to share their real identity,even some may play the gambling using the money which is untaxed one.So if they shared the kyc with the casino website,they need to file tax regularly to the government which is additional burden to them.


The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?


The decentralisation is important one in the gambling and casino sites as like in crypto currency.As we know the decentralised crypto currency bitcoin survive more than a decade as compared to many centralised cryptocurrencies like Ethereum.Because of the volatility the bitcoin survive till now which is not possible to the centralised cryptocurrency like Ethereum.



Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.


The more advanced gambling sites give us good gambling experience as compared to the old one.The new advanced gambling sites will make us more comfortable as compared to the old gambling site.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 18, 2023, 02:18:44 PM
I want to understand one thing,I know that there is a lot of talk about money laundering, and that crypto is used and whatever they want, I can understand that part, because I know that in Colombia things are different, and that the "guerrillas" do use bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to move money, that was a story I saw on the news, which Shocked me but did not surprise me, just as crypto and fiat money are used for bad things, there are also good things, now for a casino I don't see it as viable that they can use it for money laundering, Especially with all the Security options they already have.
If a casino enforces kyc to all its customers plus having some other measures in place such as high wagering requirements before being able to withdraw, not allowing users to withdraw in other coins than the coin which was used when depositing (no internal exchange).. then, you are right, it won't be possible to use such casino for money laundering.
Regardless of how much privacy advocates hate kyc policies, but it's still needed to prevent illicit activities such as money laundering.

Let be honest here a casino can not act the function of government agencies in the control of scam related to money laundering when the AML agencies themselves couldn't control the overall challenges with scam related loots from exchanges, to an extent some of the KYC casinos also serve a little function of an exchange since you can deposit your money with them, exchange it for another currency as long as their site policy support it.
Thus, unfortunately, the owners, those who wash money will always find a way of mockery of the authorities, and as always the authorities will always be late for their conclusions and will be far from all real, however as I said before, the Money laundering have to be rookie criminals, most of them when it comes to money laundering use other ways, corrupt governments will always wash money and not use the casinos for the demands they have of them, so I say, wash of money through casinos? It is like the fantasy that the CIA has, FBI to grab them there.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: danadc on June 13, 2023, 09:45:41 PM
This thread always talks about how it is possible to launder money, and I have little experience in this matter, which makes me think that how can they launder money with casinos if they require KYC, for example a player who You want to launder money, deposit 20 thousand usd in cryptocurrencies, I imagine you have to bet I don't know 5% and from there if you lose it, you still withdraw it? because the KYC requirement is something quite strong, anyone cannot enter with such a large amount and then withdraw it to another wallet, that is what I think of those who launder money, that it must be very difficult.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Blitzboy on June 14, 2023, 10:45:23 AM
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Thus, unfortunately, the owners, those who wash money will always find a way of mockery of the authorities, and as always the authorities will always be late for their conclusions and will be far from all real, however as I said before, the Money laundering have to be rookie criminals, most of them when it comes to money laundering use other ways, corrupt governments will always wash money and not use the casinos for the demands they have of them, so I say, wash of money through casinos? It is like the fantasy that the CIA has, FBI to grab them there.

Are we genuinely envisioning casinos as the champions in the anti-money laundering crusade? Seriously? Sounds like a fantasy Casinos' KYC procedures are a solid move, agreed. But a foolproof shield against laundering? That's like bringing a pea-shooter to a warzone! Dont even get me on governmental agencies with their dubious transactions. Fighting a blaze while fueling it—expect casinos to tackle this too? The prospect of casinos countering money laundering seems more of a daydream than a feasible fix. Reality stings, right?


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: famososMuertos on June 14, 2023, 02:41:09 PM
This thread always talks about how it is possible to launder money, and I have little experience in this matter, which makes me think that how can they launder money with casinos if they require KYC, for example a player who You want to launder money, deposit 20 thousand usd in cryptocurrencies, I imagine you have to bet I don't know 5% and from there if you lose it, you still withdraw it? because the KYC requirement is something quite strong, anyone cannot enter with such a large amount and then withdraw it to another wallet, that is what I think of those who launder money, that it must be very difficult.

First, there is a belief that KYC prevents money laundering, KYC(=/ ) is not the same as not laundering.

It is above all a process that allows them to be in line with the rules established as a casino and in the event of any problem that arises, this documentation serves as proof that they had nothing to do with it.

OTOH, the casino that does not require that a deposit must have a certain wager is very rare, in fact that in itself is a rarity, putting money in a casino and not betting it. That directly is a KYC secured to any withdraw.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: wiss19 on June 15, 2023, 09:24:00 AM
This thread always talks about how it is possible to launder money, and I have little experience in this matter, which makes me think that how can they launder money with casinos if they require KYC, for example a player who You want to launder money, deposit 20 thousand usd in cryptocurrencies, I imagine you have to bet I don't know 5% and from there if you lose it, you still withdraw it? because the KYC requirement is something quite strong, anyone cannot enter with such a large amount and then withdraw it to another wallet, that is what I think of those who launder money, that it must be very difficult.
Casinos that comply with KYC and AML rules tend to be safe from money laundering and other illegal activities because they ask every gambler to complete KYC verification and without doing that, they won't be able to use the full services of a platform, and if someone has evil intentions after joining a platform, they won't be able to continue with them if they can't comply with the rules and regulations.

But, criminals mostly manage to bypass such things by using other people's identities to verify their accounts and withdraw money but to counter that, platforms don't allow withdrawing after a deposit is made unless the player completes at least 1x wagering requirement.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 15, 2023, 12:52:41 PM
People gambling to earn money is a serious issue. The best form of gambling should be for fun and when money comes, you take it as a compensation for time spent. Having little money and heavily involving in gambling is a time bomb waiting for explosion.
I have wanted to involve in serious gambling but later withdrew my intention because it is not yet time.
I will fully involve in gambling when I am super super rich. By this time, I wouldn't have to check my account balance each time I gamble. When you attain that level, it is when you will enjoy the act of gambling.
If people think of getting money from gambling, they will experience disappointment and frustration because they will not always be able to earn it. They must think of gambling as a way to get fun and entertainment so they will not think about winning from playing gambling.

If they could have self-control during gambling and always remember that gambling cannot always make money, they would have been able to restrain themselves from spending a lot of money. And if you are already rich, you should not gamble too often and it is better to focus on making money from other places to increase your wealth.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: Doan9269 on June 15, 2023, 01:18:14 PM
This thread always talks about how it is possible to launder money, and I have little experience in this matter, which makes me think that how can they launder money with casinos if they require KYC, for example a player who You want to launder money, deposit 20 thousand usd in cryptocurrencies, I imagine you have to bet I don't know 5% and from there if you lose it, you still withdraw it? because the KYC requirement is something quite strong, anyone cannot enter with such a large amount and then withdraw it to another wallet, that is what I think of those who launder money, that it must be very difficult.

Everything is open on the blockchain if you think you can use the casinos to launch your fraudulent hideout, but the problem is on how to know wether of the money deposited on the casino is from a genuine source or being stolen and kept there, which mens if the government cannot successful moderates stealing of government funds and properties in fiat finac banks authorities they can't achieve so with cryptocurrency as well.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: rby on June 15, 2023, 02:17:22 PM
People gambling to earn money is a serious issue. The best form of gambling should be for fun and when money comes, you take it as a compensation for time spent. Having little money and heavily involving in gambling is a time bomb waiting for explosion.
If people think of getting money from gambling, they will experience disappointment and frustration because they will not always be able to earn it. They must think of gambling as a way to get fun and entertainment so they will not think about winning from playing gambling.

That is just the theoretical aspect of it we preach. But in reality, people join gambling because their relatives, friends or someone they know won big through gambling. This news will attract them to gambling, with the mindset that if my friend can win big in gambling, I can also win big. Nonetheless, my friend is not luckier than me.

If they could have self-control during gambling and always remember that gambling cannot always make money, they would have been able to restrain themselves from spending a lot of money. And if you are already rich, you should not gamble too often and it is better to focus on making money from other places to increase your wealth.
Here, one bad habit of some gamblers is their spending habit. Whenever they have a big win, they will forget how they have been losing for months without win. They will then see their winning as a free money and blow it overnight.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: ethereumhunter on June 16, 2023, 04:39:16 AM
People gambling to earn money is a serious issue. The best form of gambling should be for fun and when money comes, you take it as a compensation for time spent. Having little money and heavily involving in gambling is a time bomb waiting for explosion.
If people think of getting money from gambling, they will experience disappointment and frustration because they will not always be able to earn it. They must think of gambling as a way to get fun and entertainment so they will not think about winning from playing gambling.

That is just the theoretical aspect of it we preach. But in reality, people join gambling because their relatives, friends or someone they know won big through gambling. This news will attract them to gambling, with the mindset that if my friend can win big in gambling, I can also win big. Nonetheless, my friend is not luckier than me.
Yes, right. The reality will be different because people can easily gamble, whether they are gambling because of friends or other people or even out of curiosity to see promos on social media sites. If things are lucky or not, we don't need to think about it because our goal in gambling is just to have fun.

If they could have self-control during gambling and always remember that gambling cannot always make money, they would have been able to restrain themselves from spending a lot of money. And if you are already rich, you should not gamble too often and it is better to focus on making money from other places to increase your wealth.
Here, one bad habit of some gamblers is their spending habit. Whenever they have a big win, they will forget how they have been losing for months without win. They will then see their winning as a free money and blow it overnight.
It's normal because they feel compelled to celebrate with their friends or family after a big win. Even though they had been losing for months, they finally managed to win big. After celebrating the moment, they will return to gambling and gamble again, hoping to win big again. But it will never be easy.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: dezoel on June 16, 2023, 03:46:30 PM
This thread always talks about how it is possible to launder money, and I have little experience in this matter, which makes me think that how can they launder money with casinos if they require KYC, for example a player who You want to launder money, deposit 20 thousand usd in cryptocurrencies, I imagine you have to bet I don't know 5% and from there if you lose it, you still withdraw it? because the KYC requirement is something quite strong, anyone cannot enter with such a large amount and then withdraw it to another wallet, that is what I think of those who launder money, that it must be very difficult.
Maybe because that is what this thread all about. You said you have a little experience, so does it mean you have tried to launder money before? ;D just kidding. Most of us here are not money launderers so we have no experience about it but we only have an idea on how it works.

A casino can require a KYC but some are not totally strict. They only require you to upload an I.D. A money launderer can just rent or buy another I.D for this. Also not all casino has a KYC on them. Money launderers are free to use this. Doing a KYC had some benefits like an increase in player's deposit. It can actually make them more trusted in the eyes of the casino owners.


Title: Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on June 19, 2023, 07:39:56 PM
I want to understand one thing,I know that there is a lot of talk about money laundering, and that crypto is used and whatever they want, I can understand that part, because I know that in Colombia things are different, and that the "guerrillas" do use bitcoin and cryptocurrencies to move money, that was a story I saw on the news, which Shocked me but did not surprise me, just as crypto and fiat money are used for bad things, there are also good things, now for a casino I don't see it as viable that they can use it for money laundering, Especially with all the Security options they already have.
If a casino enforces kyc to all its customers plus having some other measures in place such as high wagering requirements before being able to withdraw, not allowing users to withdraw in other coins than the coin which was used when depositing (no internal exchange).. then, you are right, it won't be possible to use such casino for money laundering.
Regardless of how much privacy advocates hate kyc policies, but it's still needed to prevent illicit activities such as money laundering.

this is why most licensed gambling sites are requiring kyc from their customers especially if they are exceeding their limits. to maintain their license from the jurisdiction of operations, they will surely apply the kyc procedure. because with their license, and when it comes to audit and they saw big numbers without kyc, for sure their license will be put into question.

Basically let's be clear, the kyc are a Requirement of governments and third Parties to know who are the ones who Play and how much they play, how much money they have available to play, spend and win, in order to have them on a list where in the future it can be used to apply Certain taxes that have not been paid during the Duration of what that person has played,that's the Way I see it, a leak of those Documents and that's it, with that they have so that they have the necessary Information for them to do or extort Someone.

KYC, that sweet-sour dance between legit gambling sites and players! Sure, it's a mandate from the powers that be, but what if there's a secret plot? On the surface, it's about following rules, keeping licenses. But what if they're collecting dossiers on our habits, ready to spring tax traps? A financial watchlist – exciting! And don't forget data leak risks. One misstep, and boom! Our precious info in the hands of bad guys. It's like offering a jackpot of personal data to mischief-makers. What a game!


We have to learn to live that to enjoy a good casino we have to give our data, that is something that is already like the law, it is something that is not pleasant, but since things are changing so much, good casinos have those demands,b and if it is something that we have to adapt to, at least a good casino with a high reputation guarantees us security, the bad thing is that when we want to handle high amounts of money, the casinos are not more demanding with their kyc, but it is something that They are very particular cases , normally the biggest problem goes to those who are Considered Whale.