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I have often played slot games at some trusted casinos these past few days. While playing, I often buy Bonus Buys and I do that in many slot games.

Which is the most profitable or generates the most profit between buying a Bonus Buy or playing normally without buying a Bonus Buy?

This made me curious because I tried it in several games such as Gate of Olympus, Mental, Fire in the Hole, Sword of Ares, Land of Zenith and others. And I see that buying Bonus Buy is more profitable. Is it really like that? What slot games often allow you to win more money by using Bonus Buy?

Note: Buying Bonus Buy allows us to win more money, while playing normally does not guarantee we can win some money.

None of them gauranty making any profit but rather what buying a bonus does is give you more chances and leverage to winning and none of them guaranty any winning.
It seems that you already know tye answer to your question and it might be profitable to you because you made some successful attempt and for another it might be regarded as a wasteage of money and time because they made nothing several attempts.
I also got so confused about your last paragraph because you sounded so sure and certain, if yes why did you ask your question in the second paragraph?what I have to say it that none of them guaranty making any money but buying bonus gives you opportunity.

You talking about the bonus feature buy? Yeah, those can give you bigger wins, but you also wager like 100 times more for those bonus features. They have higher multiplier and payout, but there is a chance you will be also losing a lot too. More like you buy $100 worth of features, you either up winning only $10 or a huge payout of $1000. The former one very likely to happen. If you are not hunting for the bonus round, just spin the slots normally and if you get lucky, you will win the bonus round (which guarantees you a profit for that bet). But if you are looking for the bonus round, buy the features, you will likely be spending less when you instantly buy it instead of manually spinning for it.

Don't think about profitability when you are about to play some slots... normal spins or buying bonuses it's almost the same! If you get lucky you will win something, and if you are really lucky it means you hit some jackpot or max payout on some slot, but that doesn't happen to everyone... of course, if you are unlucky you will lose, doesn't matter did you play normal spins or if you were buying bonuses.

As I said many times, from my experience, after playing normal spins (over 1000 spins on different slots) without hitting even one bonus round I think to myself that it would have been better if I had bought the bonus rounds. When I am buying bonus rounds and lose I think the opposite. But it's when we lose...
By playing "normal spins" you can hit over x100 (my highest is over x200, with ordinary spin) payouts from a single spin, and with some luck, you can hit a bonus round in the first 10-20 spins (but that doesn't happen so often). But the reality is that we often run into some long streak of dead spins, without hitting the bonus even after a hundred spins (mine is over 500 spins without a bonus round, on the Pragmatic slot with the selected option "double chance for bonus")... I lost the entire balance and I didn't have money for more spins).
Buying bonuses is definitely an interesting thing to do... but those "dead spins" can & often happen in bonus rounds as well! After a few bought bonus rounds with under x5 payouts will melt your balance pretty quickly.

Bottom line is, slots are for fun and entertainment. If you play because you think you will make some profits easily you are terribly wrong. People should play slots with money they can lose easily because with slots it's easy to lose big money.

Bonus buy doesn't guarantee a win either so you're paying more to get more rewards in case if you win that is how it works. Generally I used to play normally cause I am not someone who spend much on casinos but have a habit of watching steamers who usually buy bonus pack and win big but they are mostly sponsored by the casino itself and for me its a kind of promoting and another way to make money.

I got maxwin by buying bonus, depending on luck and sometimes just one normal spin can get a big profit. Well buying spin bonuses with a note that can't keep buy, the thing I learned is that repeating buy bonuses, I will lose but maybe it doesn't happen to everyone because we have different of luck. I always see at this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249415.msg61130023#msg61130023 you can read and post your experience, sometimes they make big profits on normal spins rather than of buy, so there is no guarantee in buy or not.

Do you still believe that bonuses give the player some kind of advantage? When I started gambling online I also thought it would give you more to win, but in fact the outcome of the game depends only on whether you are lucky in the gaming session or not, and whether you can stop if you win. There were times that I won from bonuses, but they were small amounts, so I can't say that bonuses give any advantage against playing the same slots.

Since you have already made the choice that buying bonus allows you to win more, why are you asking again, maybe you just seeking someone to agree with you. There is nothing guaranteed in gambling most especially, If it was guaranteed many people will already have knowledge about it and will be buying bonus buy to be able to win more money anytime they play slot. This is like another superstition about slot.

I hope you realize that the casino will not put a feature that will heavily benefit the gambler. As others have said when it comes to slot games lucky is a huge factor, despite you buying a "buy bonus" it would not automatically mean that you will be in profit nor you'd have an actual advantage while gambling. all I can say about your experience is that you got lucky.

I think that this your concept need theory or prove to make us believe exactly what you are saying and the more content of this. Because in gambling I seems it like something that deals with luck, and when you are not opportune to win it's because of your prediction and your personal luck, because two things that i think that is involved in gambling is that opportunity and ability to understand what you are doing at appropriate time.

People should realize this on the first place, it might really be giving off some positive or boost vibe on the time you do hit up those multipliers with those bonus but that would really be depending on how lucky

you are and there's no such thing that you could really be always be having that advantage.Casino slots doesnt really work and function that way.There's always a catch and its true that they cant really be just

giving out chances for them to let users win bigtime.They are building business and they would be tending to cover up those things with fancy names or whatsoever
that you could able to read up just to make it look interesting but in back its actually not and just luring you in to play more.

Well, if you're lucky when you bought that bonus then that is totally profitable considering you have somehow get it for free. But bonuses aren't free after all, it's just like some excess from your recent money though. I think bonuses are just way for casino to lure users to buy more when they tend to lose and most do lose.

Maybe you will get a good chance of hitting a bonus when you used the buy features but it doesn't guarantee us gamblers to win more money because otherwise all of us will take advantage of this features more often to win big money.

I did try to used buy features and sometimes I had a good win but there are times that the bonus returns just a so-so money.

So I guess it depends on you, maybe you like to used the buy features, maybe some of us are old school and wanted to play the usual, spin and see how your luck strikes.

There is nothing wrong with using a bonus in itself. However, you should pay close attention to what kind of bonuses you are going to accept. Often, the higher the bonus, the higher the requirements are to clear the bonus. There are already many topics devoted to this on the forum, and that will not be the last time. If you can get a bonus that does not require you to wager any requirements then it is free and for free. I would also always check the terms and conditions. When you make a deposit, you can often choose whether you want a bonus or whether you want to refuse it. Cashback bonuses are also good, but that means you have already gambled at a loss.

Buying bonus might cost you more and it’s still the same if you are not going to buy, profit is not guaranteed. This is gambling, the more you bet the more chances of winning but of course better not to expect that much. If you are going to play slots, better to place a bet normally because slots machines are a game of luck.

They're just the same IMO, what just happened to you is that you're in total luck and you seem to see it and said that buying a bonus buy is way more profitable than the usual thing that you do without it.
But if that's an effective strategy to you and you think that you'll be able to make more through then just do it again, until you start to see that it's no longer effective anymore.

No one knows, buying bonus buy can give you huge hit if you are lucky but can make you lost money in an instant if it pays zero, but in terms of hitting max win, I think Bonus buy has higher chance of hitting max win than a base spin. 


If you watch lots of streams, you can see that not all bonus buy can give you a good win. It is possible that iyou just got lucky because I watched streamers getting lots of 0x or below 100x when they buy-in.

Still a slot machines right? So I don’t see any advantage of buying bonus because its still a game of luck and slow machines are system generated, you can’t win always on that machine. Bonuses might give you higher chance though but not guaranteed, so personally I prefer not to buy any and just enjoy playing normally. Slot machines are still fun to play, prefer not to use any bonus option.

Bonus buys give you a huge possible win if ever you hit one, but that doesn't guarantee you that you'll have a good roll at all. What it does is it only heightens your bet amount and will lose you money a lot faster than you do in a normal slot round. If you're feeling lucky, and you have a lot to spare and can afford all bonus buys in a row, you may do so, but again it does not change your profitability as you are losing 10 times or maybe even higher money per bet than you do without them.

buying bonuses is fun but offers no chance to increase your chances of winning. I am personally not a fan of slot games. I find it seriously boring and avoid playing it.
The bonus purchase I think is a fun option and a good compromise at least for me, since it is quite fast and gives the illusion of winning a bigger jackpot than the base game
BTW buying bonuses is fun but offers no chance to increase your chances of winning.

The bonus purchase I think provide much fun (a kind of evolution for these games) likewise a good compromise at least for me, since it is quite fast and gives the illusion of winning a bigger jackpot than the basic game.

First of all, you should know before. that you are playing a type of game based on luck.

IMO, there is no probability for this comparison. let alone to determine, which one is more profitable. play normal without buying features and just waiting to get free spins, or buy free spins features. based on my experience, for me it's the same and it all depends on luck. however, what you say may or may not be true.  why, even if you buy the bonus free spins. the bonus you get doesn't guarantee a big reward.

so in essence, of all types of slot games available. be it Olympus, Mental, Fire in the Hole, or whatever. during this game, not giving any bonuses from each spin. most likely, the type you play will not pay off good rewards whether you buy free spins or earn from free spins. I think you can learn from experience, at least that's what I did when playing slots. if that type of game doesn't provide rounds with good bonuses, on every spin. I usually stop the game, maybe i'll try it some other time. at least, it was to prevent greater losses.

I wouldn't buy bonus. This reminds me of buying extended warranty in a store.

These things are usually scams.

Buying bonus gives you additional % chance of winning but it costs you a certain amount of money and taht amount is usually higher than the lowest bet so you have better chances of winning by playing 50 games with higher odds than 10 games with the bonus.
I can't give you exact numbers but check it for yourself.

The same on my topic here before. Sometimes called the buy-in feature.

I always buy this feature as long as the cost is cheap. Maybe the budget will be up to $50.

Buying a bonus game for me I think is giving me more chances of winning compared to manual betting. :)

Not all the casino had the slot games, some casino doesn’t provide the sot games. May be they had get into broke or small bank roll. Buying bonus is always an good option as compared to without buying bonus. Bonus help you to earn some additional money to use in the certain matches. My favourite games are Gate of  Olympus, Sword of Ares. Buying bonus will surely allow us to win more money then normal. It’s strategy used bu the players instead of the new players to the game of gambling. The gamblers should think about the gambling companies which involve in giving bonus to the people joining to their website.

No were you get guarantee on win. It is upto the users, how they gets used to gambling. Some find it good to play just by depositing while some find good playing with bonus buy. In all means you need to be lucky to record your winning. Bonus buy provides with additional rolls, but I find those were really enjoyed by the high bank rollers who doesn't care of the win/loss out of the slots.

The chances might be better but still, losing can happen. I experienced many times buying a bonus game that turned out a disaster although winning is more likely to happen. If the bankroll is not that much, a gambler might end up being aggressive while waiting for that bonus game to give a nice profit.

I prefer buying a bonus game compare to waiting for that free game to appear in the slot since the Math is just the same. Sometimes, without realization, our manual $0.1-$0.2 bet is now turning into big that the value can be purchased instead with a bonus game.

The odds are terrible either way. House edge on slots are upwards of 10% depending on what the platform sets the odds to. There isn't a way for us to tell what the odds are on the bonus buys unless the casino publishes those odds to its players. Assume that it wouldn't be any better than what the house edge already is for that particular game.

Stick to table games if you're looking for "profitability" (which is to say, you won't lose as much. Gambling is not profitable).

I normally buy the bonus game because I feel my winning chances are higher by doing it.

Not a fan of free spins as I prefer the bonus game the other way. Free spins are different from the free game feature of any slot.

We should just remember that not all the time, winning is guaranteed in a bonus game.


I understand that's what you think but to be able to understand more what the bonus game is, make some experience. :)

If it happens most of the time for you then that means you're lucky since bonus buys can drain your bankroll really fast. I remember watching a streamer that only did bonus buys and the strategy didn't work for him since he only got small wins and it wasn't enough to sustain his losses.

For me, I wouldn't use the bonus buy feature since I prefer burning through my entire bankroll with the base spins than going at it in one go from a bonus buy.

My take on this is as follows...
The bonuses that casinos offer are to motivate the player to spend more money, as bonuses are always accompanied by some precondition:
A minimum amount of money, or a certain number of plays to qualify for the bonus, etc....

If the requirement for you to redeem the bonus is within your stipulated spending limit, take the bonus whenever it is offered to you, as these bonuses give you a greater chance of achieving a win.

However, if you need to contribute more money than expected to get the bonus, do not fall into this temptation, because even with the bonus it is statistically proven that you will probably lose everything, and then the feeling of defeat is much more evident, which can cause other problems.

In short... bonuses are always welcome, as long as they are used very carefully.

Your thinking is incorrect. Bonus buys do not allow you to win more at all. You just bypass spinning until you hit a bonus. You have the same odds to hit big whether you buy the bonus or spin in.

I actually can't agree any less with you.
The odd for winnings are definitely the same whether you buy a bonus or not, the only thing buying a bonus does is giving you an edge to play more  and it all depends on what bonus you're buying.

Bonus buy allows you to skip to getting bonuses, it doesn't necessarily increase your win rate or anything. I guess you can buy them if you're playing long but really, it doesn't exactly equate that you'd equal out your losses even with bonuses in play (might depend, but I highly doubt it would most of the time). You'd still need to get lucky to actually say that buying the Bonus Buy be "worth" it, and in those cases I'd just stop thinking and rather enjoy the game.

Very wrong mindset here, bonus buy doesn't increase your chance or more money wins, that's not how it was design.

And maybe this is the reason why the OP is losing money (although we all know that slots machine odds are against us). But if he keeps on buying and paying more just to get the bonus and thinks that he will win more, it's the opposite.

Much better to play how much money you have in a slots, let's say $100-$200 as a start and then see how your luck is.

no one can guarantee big wins in Slot machines.
buying bonuses at Slots only increases your chances of getting closer to big profits, but keep in mind that they don't guarantee but only get closer to big luck.
I once bought a $ 200 bonus and after that my win was only $ 90 but a few days later I tried to play normally on the slot machine, I actually got more big profits.
so don't think that buying bonuses will get you big profits.

Bonus Buy can give you big winning but that depends on your luck. If you are lucky, you will win but if you are not lucky, you can not win much money but at least you can get some money.

I sometimes buy this bonus feature, although it will not give me much chance to win big, but as long as the cost is not too high, I will try it and see the result. I suggest using your money with caution and if you think the bonus feature is too high, you do not have to buy but instead play as usual.

The problem with bonus buys the bad streaks, if you are placing $1 bets you can be rolling with $1000 for a long period and chase the bonus with single bets, but if you make 10 bonus buys of $100 and get in a bad streak then those $1000 will go down really fast.

From my personal experience, it is hard to win in the bonus buys, but when they win, it is usually a big multi. Maybe that gives the feeling that it's easier to win betting that way, but in the long run still a RIP.

Bonus buy gives you higher multipliers but you need to wager a higher amount. However, the odds of winning will not be changed when playing slots. I've seen a lot of streamers buying bonus feature to entertain their followers, but take note these streamers are not using their own money since they are paid to promote a casino, the main purpose of it is to entice viewers on using bonus buy thinking they can win bigger amount with bonus buy.

Allowing you to win more money of course , but what is the assurance that you can take those money out? i mean we knew that in gambling the more you win is the more you wanted to double and ending up losing everything than winning lol.
just gamble with chance of luck , limit your expenses and try not to be hooked this is how you can win generously than challenging the game and casino that we all knew not worth doing longer.

Personally no I vote to spend more time getting the bonus but for some people its ideal and fast which is the main advantage.   If you gamble on a lunchbreak then not getting the bonus because you ran out of time must suck for those people, so thats where it comes into play for me.  I dont gamble on my lunchbreak, my heart cant take it and I cant pull myself away in time not to be late.
  I dont believe its possible to buy luck so easily but it might appear that way, whatever works for you maybe the playstyle is fast in and fast out and when thats a win whose to say it cannot work out.

Bear in mind that Buy Bonus does not guarantee you win some money as well. Buy bonus gives you instant and guarantee free spins/bonus round only but you may win nothing in the bonus round even if you do it consecutively. I've experienced losing streak with bonus round, I made more than 10x buy bonus in a row but not even one gave me a profit. Which one is better between playing normal spins vs buy bonus? It depends on our preferences, I myself do both combined. All in all, no one is more profitable, because you do not know the result in advance.

I don't usually pay attention either. Only on rare occasions.

Normally bonuses are like supermarket offers that give you a discount but with conditions: buy before such and such a day, buy spending more than a certain amount, etc.

If the bonuses have wagering requirements, an expiration date, etc. what they are aiming at is to make you bet more, and I don't even pay attention to the free ones: just for playing, they sometimes give me a bonus of x money if I generate x rake before the end of the month, and I don't pay attention because betting more can end up leading me to play EV-.

No mate. Bonus buys are not guaranteed to give you higher multipliers but it only gives you an immediate access to the bonus or to the free spins. These things can still come even without the need of a buy bonus but it may take some time. When you watch streams, did the streamer gets a decent win on their bonus buys? That can happen maybe because their games are also manipulated other than them being sponsored by a casino.

Or we can say that it wasn't manipulated but their chance of getting a good win on bonus buys are still higher because they have a lot of capital to burn with it, only to see a better outcome. Viewers should take note of that so that they won't be lured out and lose more money.

Based on my personal preferences and experience, for let's say on the $100-$200 budget, I'd rather try my luck in the bonus game. I can allocate 50% of my budget for that. The reason is, it's hard to hit that bonus game manually and we won't realize that our budget is now depleting without even hitting the bonus game or even hitting a good jackpot.

Playing also for a long-time is not good for me as we know what always the result is if we played for a long. It's better to try our luck on the very moment we are feeling it instead of doing long manual bets that aside from the time we spend, we will still end up losing. In case of a loss on the bonus game, at least there's still a little money return unlike in manual bets.

Since we rely on luck here, it's worth risking my money here on an intense bonus game instead of manual bets.

This is only true when we hit it big in the bonus round and for this to happen we need a lot of tries.This is something in slot machines that divide the gamblers in two categories from what I have seen,the once who spend all their balance by buying the bonus feature and hoping to win it big over there and people which I am also part of that never buy the bonus feature or extremely rare cases are the ones that we do.

I have tried once spending like 500 dollars buying 10-15 times the bonus feature and never won it big,it just extended my game play by giving me some decent wins in the bonus feature but not a big one while I have had a lot better results when you get the bonus feature without spending money for it,of course it takes time but I think for me personally this is the best option.

I have never tried a bonus buy, but what I have to say is that a bonus buy does not guarantee anything, winning and losing in gambling is purely based on luck, you can spend all the money you have on bonus buy, if you are not lucky, you still won't win.

So for me personally, I would rather gamble normally than engage in bonus buying whereas doing this does not increase my chances of wining in any way.

True, one of the proofs is that in the AyeZee stream, he is side-betting less than 0.01x in a  buy-in on Wanted Dead or a Wild[1] and he is gaining until he changes his strategy.  The same goes with his recent video on the Gates of Olympus.[2]



I also experienced the same buying Bonus Buy on Jammin' Jars, out of 10 buys I did not profit even a single buy LOL.  

With the experience, I think not using Bonus buy can give us more possibility of a huge profit.  Rarer bonus round though.

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[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzqOtoWfbzQ
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e20iQLPTPXI

This is the point, buying those bonus option doesn’t guarantee anything then why spend for that?
Better to gamble normally and play longer than to increase your spending and you might ended up losing the money in an instant. Buying a bonus might give you additional excitement but I think its just another expense that can lose your money instantly.

If you will analyze that statement, it's true that buying a bonus game will allow is to win more money since you will buy the special feature of the game without waiting for your luck waiting on that bonus game to appear on manual spinning. It has something like big multipliers of course if we will able to hit it.

Still and it's obvious that luck still plays a big role in us to win in a bonus game.

It's just that playing a bonus game will give us more profits compared to a manual game obviously. Again, only if our luck is there.

  -  Gate of Olympus I also play it, maybe within a week once or twice a week I win here like a return on investment is also what happens in my experience as a gambler.

I just don't quite understand what you said that the bonus buy gives you a way to win a lot of money but there is no guarantee that you will win money, isn't it a mess what you said, dude? It is somewhat contradicted by the reminder you mentioned.

Even though I didn't have a good experience using the Bonus Buy feature in Gate of Olympus, I was able to win some money, but I often took the money back to buy the feature. So buying a bonus does not guarantee that we will always be able to win more money because it will depend on how lucky we are when playing the game. But I have also seen some people on Youtube who can win a large amount just by betting a small amount. But if you really want to get more money than playing normally, you can try to buy the Bonus Buy site.

Both do not guarantee a win or that with the bonus buy feature players can make more money.
Here's the first thing I saw in one of the casinos where a player got 0 from the buy bonus feature.
https://twitter.com/rollbitcom/status/1601502227981475841
but that's what he wanted because with that result he got $64K because there is a feature in the casino called sidebet and he chose 0.01x and with dead spins he still made money

I usually chase deposit bonus to get an advantage and have an increased betting stash. Then I withdraw my deposit and go forward to look for a new room that offer a deposit bonus. This way I can get a stash in a few casinos for free!

I don't know which one determines a better win, even though I often use both of them, but if you look at the same, there is no guarantee for that, even though the buy bonus promises good wins.

What many people say is true, buying bonuses is an option for us. We want more wins than usual, so he can buy it. Sometimes I also spin automatically (20x) and then try to buy a bonus with a budget that has been allocated. Occasionally, it can indeed be profitable. but it won't last forever so there will still be a lot of losses if we often buy bonuses.

But the sensation of fun is different from the usual spins, the fun with buying bonuses is more fun for this option.

It's an illusion of control - just like the mini side games that pop up occasionally after you've dunked a load of cash and build up the habit forming behavior by enticing you in further. You never see all the algorithms that are adapting to your play style, your bankroll balance and a thousand other factors in an attempt to keep you hooked for as long as possible and adding as much money as possible to the account. The only bonuses you might legitimately be able to walk away with are things like the welcome bonuses or any freebie games you might happen to win, besides that all the games are engineered to statistically give your whole balance over to the casino if you play for long enough and there is no way to avoid that unless you walk away near the start when you might happen to get ahead a little.

Reading the other replies in this thread, some people seem to agree that bonus buys might be kind of an illusion, it would seem. A Fata Morgana of the gambling world. Obviously you could just bet more money in the first place and you would also win more money, so what is the point of a bonus buy other than marketing purposes and enticing you to bet more than you would have in the first place? I think in cases where bonus buys actually bring you in more money then there must be mathematical proof for that.

Hard to do when everything relies on slight differences in probabilities.  ::)

That is just a marketing trick in order to trick you to buy the bonus feature when you are not getting it while playing a long session,this way you are going to buy the feature and then we don't know how it will behave,I think 1/100 it can give you a huge win while 99 other times bad to normal wins.

However the buy feature plays a huge marketing role in people who get mad by playing a game which does not have a buy in bonus feature and they don't get the bonus round,so these people are easy targets to change to providers that offers such slots where you can buy the bonus game.

We know that as a gambler then if we do see that slightest difference when it comes to those probabilities then we would really be surely diving into that and it isnt really something a shocking or surprising
behavior since we are gambler since in the first place but if you do mind it off realistically then we could definitely say that it isnt really that different too much, or something that we could say
that there's no point on doing that but since people are just way too different when it comes to perceiving things then this is where decisions do really vary.
Casinos wont really be offering or those things if they wont really be having the upperhand, it does really just need up some common sense to find it out.

Those people using that agree in such funds maybe they have not understand it very well the way another person understood it some people sometimes make a post in order for them to complete their weekly quota report so if you pay rules into it very well or you go into it very well you will understand that there is a very big contradiction

That should not be a problem since everyone know what they are looking for ams what they really want. Looking at the fund whether you wants that or not should be our businesses since everyone wants money and need bonuses that will make a good meaning when we start using it. The market is somehow competitive and what we want may be different from what another needs.

I think that what you want will make you to be over curious or over serious to activity because the thing is that if you know what is important to you there is nothing will make you not to find one or two ways to get it that's why that we have a computers in such aspects but what I want to let you know that the market is the derivative of everything

Not using bonus buy is cheaper long run but to utilize it immediately is still cheaper then being unlucky short run in attempting to get the bonus and failing which is the fear of most gamblers I guess.   The house wouldn't offer something which isn't of benefit to them in some way so I think that's the case that convivence costs.
    To actually practise the bonus before playing larger money its surely useful as a feature to try out as an option so I appreciate that its there but its not in my strategy as such to use it every day.

Definitely agree.

Let's say the cheapest price is around $20 for a 0.1 or 0.2 bet. Still worth testing this and facing the risks compare to waiting for too long on manual bets that even spending $20, that bonus game will still not appear on our session.

Since it's gambling, just hope for the best that luck will come to us once we purchased the bonus game feature.

This is it , Luck will always be the main ingredients for us to win against casino sites and houses no matter how much we buy these bonuses or not.
yeah there are big chances to take those wins but are we really getting the advantage?
or this is just added way to lure players depositing and playing but ending nothing but losing.

Definitely it should be "edged" to the gambling house. Why would they even offer duch thing if it would yield to loss on their end? But how will they make use of bonus buy without cheating their players such as to lessen their win rate? Purpose of bonus buy is to simply promote the site. If they would earn more players to engage with their platform, then that is a win for them especially if players would be driven to continue playing because of this bonus. Marketing Psychology is being applied in here. For sure if there will be people to be lucky enough to win and make use of the bonus, the platform would earn from other players who've lost. Simple logic I guess.

Exactly, btw these are pros and cons, and depend on playing habits.

The first time I played slots, I always used the bonus buy method. I thought I would win big, but not really. When we are unlucky, the money runs out faster.

At the moment, I choose to play normal spins, because several times I won more than the bonus buy when I got free spins. Of course sometimes when bored waiting free spins after more then 200 spins not getting free spins, I making a bonus buy with lower bet.  ;D

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OP said it has a bigger chance of winning than normal spins, this is no guarantee. the same as normal spins. If you're lucky, in 100x normal spins, you can get 2-3x free spins, even bigger wins with less money, because it's pay per spins. just remember this is based on luck and how good your reel  :D

correct , buying luck is like letting your self believe in something stupid as Luck cannot be bought instead this is only coming once in a blue moon so take that advantage when its in yours.

yeah Buying bonus brings us more chances of winning bigger but this does not assure us to win literally .

Just play and enjoy, if you lose enough then get out if win? then try more .

The two does not have any tangible difference to make your winning or a profitable one, it has to depend on how far you can place your bet and plan your games, either of the two is available and some can choose not to participate in anyone because not all gamblers have interest in bonus, bonus is just to make you have interest to gamble, its part of their promotions they make to gamblers, but none of them is profitable than other in each way.

How can you withdraw your deposit while you are taking a deposit bonus? Can you tell me the casino that allows you to do it?


Depends on your luck, the way you play does not give you guarantee a better win/result.
Buy bonus feature can drain your bankroll really fast if you are in your bad luck time, but it can give you a big win in your very first tries.
The same thing applies for normal playing, so once again its all about luck, nothing else.
I do play buy bonus a lot and I do play normal spin a lot as well and I have to say that no one give me better profit as they are the same for me.

Luck cannot be bought but in such case when we buy the bonus feature and hit it for example the maximum win like x10000-x15000 of our bet what is this called like except pure luck and in this case it is a bought one.

I personally am not a big fan of this to buy the feature but I have had several game play sessions where I have become so angry at the slot where I was playing by not getting the bonus for more than 1000 spins that I thought to myself why don't I change slot and got to one in which I can buy the feature.

Yesterday i was doing some bonus buys and I realize some slots are better for it. I compared Hacksaw slots vs Pragmatic. And feels like slots like Wanted or Stack'em have a better chance to give x0 at the end of the run, while pragmatics always pay something back. I would like to recommend the Pragmatic game Madame Destiny Megaways for a bonus buy, I had some nice luck on it and already see some users hitting big on it too.

I'd say that it was an added lure because we slot players loves bonus rounds right? And this isn't something that can come often when we play the traditional way but this bonus buy feature allows us to be on the bonus round in an instant. Frequently, I get an insignificant win when I play the bonus round so I am expecting that the same thing can also happen when I opt for a bonus but on top of it is that I will only waste money in the end.

So, why can I just use that money to play longer right? I will enjoy more this way. If I am lucky I can still get a decent win from the normal spins. It was still up to you guys if what works better for you according in your own observations.

Actually, purchasing a bonus buy is also a risk in itself- the rewards will reap on the condition that you WIN. Regardless of it, you must still win in order to maximize the bonus buys you bought at a certain casino. If you are someone who often gambles on a daily basis, then getting a bonus buy would be more beneficial. But if you are someone who gambles intermittently, then a bonus buy may not be worth it at your current situation.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to luck and preference. A person may be able to maximize his/her bonus buy in a day; but this entails that you have to consistently gamble to maximize it.

It doesn't change your chances of winning. The rtp will remain the same. It's the same as regular spins but with higher stake.
Meaning, if you hit a x1000 multiplier from a bonus round which costs $100 ($1 per spin), you will earn $1000. It's the same as hitting a x10 multiplier from a $100 regular spin.
The multiplier from the bonus buy may seem bigger, but the profit is the same.

It only guarantee more chance to win and big bonuses but totality ? still Luck needs to be on your side to benefits from this lol.

Smaller expenses , that is regular betting gives and this is how it looks like to be followed .

I hate spending more when I believe that gambling is always base on luck and this is what we must understand here.

I have never paid attention to that kind of bonus. Apart from first deposit bonuses, I have never bought any other kind of bonus.


Without having studied it in depth, it had always seemed to me to be just that, a kind of leverage. It increases the potential profit, but because you are also using more money, you are betting more.

So no, I'm not going to use bonus buy. I'll keep betting until now. Lately I've been playing slots, which I haven't played for a long time, as a form of entertainment. If I get some extra money, fine, but I'm not going to use leverage. 

and with that it is almost similar to instead of buying bonus you will bet with higher amount because the position is almost the same .

I uses gambling platform for long in the past but never that I purchase Bonus buy instead since I believe that gambling is all about luck then i take my chances in every bets I do no matter how high or low it is.

That's an interesting suggestion because providers like Pragmatic Play often provide decent returns for me. So maybe I'll give it a try later when I have some free time. Also, using $20 for a single bonus purchase is enough to expect a return from that slot game.

I'm still curious about Gate of Olympus but I might try Madame Destiny Megaways to see how my luck goes. Hopefully, I can get a good return too.

I think bonus is good because we can wagger this bonus money and can get return, with such good returns too.
But we can save capital by this bonus. And also many users get greedy and they loose everything that they own.
And also I have never get bonus because I know that it might be risky or they have a scheme to loose this funds and only few people are able to return their money.

Although many gamblers play slots with the purchase of bonuses claim that the probability of winning a large sum in the bonus round is higher than in the normal game session, I am in no hurry to buy bonuses, because even with a small bankroll can make the required number of spins to get into the bonus round.

Gambling is based on luck and as practice shows some gamblers manage to win a large sum from $100.

You are very consistent with your playing style. Some people can't wait for the free spins. because they think, they will be able to get wins faster with bonus buy feature which is actually not giving higher chance to win. I also realized, because on several occasions, I only get $0.xx from bonus buy feature  ;D. Whereas from normal spins I can get up to 200x. After having this experience, I also played more with normal spins than bonus buys. This mean, nothing different between bonus buy or normal spins.

So do we. in each game, sometimes we can't just wait for the free spins we hope to get. especially, if in some moments free spins are won. however, the reward we get is not always as expected.

note : almost every time we get the first free spins, the reward is always low. Except, we're in lucky mode.

So in essence, the role of experience also plays a very important role when I play a type of game based on luck. not infrequently, in a few moments I buy a free spins bonus purchase. and the result, quite surprising with a high reward. in fact, playing slots has uniqueness and characteristics that are different from other types of gambling. because this is different, what makes us more curious in the end to get the expected reward. moreover to set a new winning record, from the free spins reward. it's fun, but don't forget. self-control is the top priority.

I think bonus buys only give you a little ump on winnings, not give you a higher chance at winning itself. So for some it may seem as if what you're doing is a little wasteful, because you could've just carried on and bagged wins without buying bonus buys and the fact that it still doesn't even guarantee winning is a little sad as well. Simply put this is a double-edged sword that some gamblers just wouldn't see themselves using, since for them the risks outweigh the benefits. I myself wouldn't really buy bonuses even if my life depended on it because again, I can carry on playing slots without having to spend extra.

yes I am, imagine that in the past I become addicted without Buying bonuses so what more if I tried those? lucky that I never tried mate and now I completely deny that Idea as I would rather gamble and loss with pure luck than doubling my chance of losing buying those bonuses.
but good that you explain that further for others to understand because only few of us knows about how this bonuses works because this added cost to our gambling activities.

Sometimes the buy bonus is a great feature,I played yesterday 15 Crystal Roses slot from Play n Go and I played a long session yet I only won the bonus feature 2 times and one time I got 0.32 dollars and the other one 0.92 dollars.Of course I got mad and I believe everyone at my place would become mad too because of such happenings and it is exactly in this time that the buy bonus becomes a great feature,when I see that the game takes a really long time to give me the bonus just two times it is only natural for me to stop playing normally and wanting to buy the bonus.

Not an expert on slots, I hope we mean the same thing with the Bonus Pay, it's when you collect tokens and after enough rounds you can buy/get for free the bonus rounds? I rarely use the option for Bonus Buys during my slot sessions, because I never get enough tokens to get it for free. Whenever there are free spins, I am happy for it and use them straight away. But with the Bonus Pay it seems that I still have to pay a large sum of money to get access to it. And the few times I tried it out I didn't make any profit out of it, maybe I was just unlucky. It's nice that they seem very profitable for you, but for me I never really had luck with them. Are you keeping track on how much you spend on the Bonus Buys and how much you make out of them? Would be nice to see a summary over a few weeks/months using them to see if the profit is consistent and it would be advisable to always use them.

What do you mean by collecting tokens? Is there any slot games with such feature where we can collect tokens and then we get free bonus rounds? By the way it is not what is called by Bonus Buy (not Pay), it is a feature that you can buy free spins/bonus round, means that you dont have to play normal spins or collecting tokens as what you think. What you need is money/balance to buy the free spins or bonus round. I doubt anyone who love to play slot make summary of what they do with their gambling session. Even if there is someone make it, it is not wise to take it as an advise to use bonus buy all the time. It is gambling and there is no consistent profit, sometime we make profit sometime we lose no matter how you play it whether using bonus buy or not.

Since what year did you start playing slots? Because I think bonus buys are only invented a few years ago but the earlier versions of slot games doesn't have that feature yet. In offline casinos, the slots there don't also have a bonus buy feature, so people are forced to play the normal way.

This tested their patience a lot. If you tried buying bonus and let say no good wins came, I think you won't ever avail them next time because you think they are only a waste of money but for some guys who started when these things are already implemented, they can only treat that as a normal event and this doesn't discourage them from buying a bonus in the future.

Many of the Slots have "scripted" Bonus buys.. like "Money Train" ... because you can basically predict what it is going to pay out. (Normally 50% of what you paid for it) ..... but others like "Wanted Dead or a Wild" are very volatile.. and can pay out `maximum` every other day.  ::)

If you want to see what the different Slots are doing with Bonus buys... just watch the big streamers... and count how many bonus buys they need to buy, before it pays out.  :P

there is no guarantee that we will profit when buying bonuses in slot games. it's because I already did. I get to win more often when playing normally.
Of course, every player has their own experience with the game being played. we never know how the pattern is used in slot games. so just enjoy the game.

Buy Bonuses are sometimes more fun and sometimes get unexpected benefits like Max Win, but yes it depends on your person's luck too, no one guarantees that you will get bigger profits when buying Bonuses, many people often buy and in the end an unreasonable loss because he was impatient. what I usually do is to do the first ten to one hundred spins first as a warm-up and look for free spins, while I play the price of the bet that I take to try to get lucky free spins, after a few spins and not getting a bonus that's the time I buy a bonus and this method is more effective than buying bonus spins continuously.

Last night I was buying bonuses, from +5 bonus buys only one was x103... others were under x10, and one was around x40-50. Of course, my balance melted and I decided to stop playing. So I guess it doesn't have to pay off at all, regardless of the number of bonus buys, if there is no luck, the balance will simply melt and that's it.

Hacksaw is crazy, I guess they can pay out "max win" every other day, but you can't imagine how many "under x5" I got from buying bonuses for this game. And I tried "medium, hard, and high" volatility buys. It's a pretty dumb feeling when you buy "Deads Man Hand", where profit comes only if it's over x400, and you get x10 or x20...
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Exactly, between using normal spins and bonus buy, actually 50:50 no more. But, with normal spins, we can bet higher with chance to win more, but not burning our money faster. I got a Max-Win from normal spins bonus, i believe i will never doing $50 bonus buy, since if I lose, i lose my capital from the start, mostly i will limit my bonus buy to $20 if i get more than $120 on my balance,  its mean i only can win with $0.2 bet if i doing a bonus buy. Since i using normal spins with $0.5 i can win more with only less than $30 (at that time). that's why now I mostly using normal spins. except I playing Sweet Bonanza, i will use bonus buy feature, because really hard to get bonus spins from normal ^{(based on my experience).}

I don't think either playing normally or buying bonus guarantees any success but I think using bonus buys you more time to play which seems gives more edge to winning.
I can always attest to the principles of luck most times a d I always believe that in gambling, most times it's based on luck and most times some acquired skills over the time.
I've seen people getting into the casino for the first time and coming out with something incredibly amazing and this time it's now classified as luck .

The maximum Bonus Buy I can take is $40 ;D

I am very afraid to buy Bonus Buy $80 because I can not risk too big money to buy the feature. But usually, I choose the lowest Bonus Buy and I see I can get a nice return from that Bonus. Sometimes, I can double the amount from that feature because my luck comes at the right time.

But that is not always happening every day since I do not play gambling too often as others. I never get "max win" from any slot game with Bonus Buy but I feel it is okay. Maybe I can get that someday.

40$ value of a bonus bet or buy-in feature was already a decent bet. I sometimes take $40 worth of buying the bonus game but that's not the always case since in that price range, I already considered it as not a cheap price. For let's say $40 is the cheapest amount to buy that bonus, that casino game is not for low-key players like me lol.

Usually, I always risk $10-$15 if available and that was within my budget.

I'd rather spend $10 buying a bonus instead of doing a manual spin and waiting for that bonus game to appear.

I haven’t watched many gambling streams and haven’t done any online slot machine playing, but from what I have seen it seems like the bonus buys are what it’s all about. Granted the little watching experience I have is with YouTubers betting massive sums of money and either making a ton or losing it all immediately, but they seem fond of the bonuses for what that’s worth.

As far as I know buying bonuses won't increase your odds of winning. Only increasing what you can win. In that regard I myself wouldn't waste a couple bucks just to give a little umph to my winnings when they aren't even guaranteed in the first place. To me bonuses like these are just a big bait for people who gamble for profit which is not a bad thing in itself unless done excessively but is nonetheless a bait to reel these people in to spending more. At the end of the day a win is a win no matter how big or small that is. You just need to take consideration of your probabilities and threshold, and you're good to go

Yeah. It doesn't increase the winning but it saves time for some user to go on the main event of slot for winning huge amount since bonus game is the only way to hit the jackpot/max win on slot. I preferred playing slot manually so that I can have a chance to play bonus round using small amount of money and at the same time recover some loss along the way while making small win per spin.

Only high roller preferred bonus buy since they are not interested on small win and only wants to make x2 or x3 of there bankroll since they are using huge amount of money with there bonus buy. Bonus buy is not worth it for players with normal bank roll.

I would suggest you to play normal spins in this Wanted Dead or a Wild.
Bonus buy does not really worth in this game (at least based my own experience), too many bad result compared to good result but I got better result while playing it with normal spins.
For Hacksaw Gaming, I would prefer to use bonus buy in Hop n Pop, Hand of Anubis, and Itero.
We have someone here from this forum who have hit max win in Xpander and Itero few times, of course he is lucky person and he must be trying it a lot before hitting the max win.

I guess that is a wrong perception. IMO, buying bonus only allows for the casino to get more profits. Casinos often do this sort of bonus offer, but these offers are normally deceiving and lead gamblers to spend more than they should.

As far as I know the purchase of the bonus allows you to open the bonus round, the probability of winning is higher than in the normal game.

As I understand the casino uses such a system, you can get into the bonus round, but this requires a certain number of spins in the regular game (how much you spend on it is not known). Another option is to buy a bonus and start your playing session immediately with the bonus round.

In what case you will be lucky no one can know, but my opinion is that this system is equal to selling spins at a discount.

That's good for you because at least that's the amount you can afford to play gambling and will not exceed the limits you have set. I'm like that too and don't always buy bonuses, especially if I don't have enough balance to buy even the cheapest ones.

I once only played $2-$5 manually or on auto, and once finished, I left the game, regardless of the outcome.

Sometimes there is curiosity that makes us want to buy the bonus, but we have to control that curiosity so we don't spend all the money at once.

I have not tested this about buying the bond, but why do the probabilities increase if we buy this bond? Is there a type of leverage like in trading? I understand that the bonuses to be withdrawn is very difficult, almost impossible to do so, what I don't like sometimes is that these bonuses can be a double-edged sword, if you win you can't withdraw until you have a great wager and that is something that limits a lot, it means that a person has to be very close to playing, risking each time the way to win, so I don't know, I think that sometimes we play with our money without a bonus, if we lose we accept it, in Otherwise, it is likely that it will be withdrawn in its entirety without any conditions.

Of course, expect some risks too when buying a bonus. There's no shortcut to luck. That's why it has a cost depending on the bet amount.

Players buy those bonuses in order to have a guaranteed bonus game without doing manual bets that sometimes, even after 100 spins, have no bonus game or free spins. By buying the bonus, you will enter the bonus game or free spins right away without the hassle of waiting for it to appear in the slots.

If fortunate, a big win is possible. On the other hand, if unfortunate, move on.

I don't think it's completely wrong, remember that what we play is a type of game based on luck. As far as I know, whether it's the free spins buy mode, or waiting to get free spins it's all the same. that in fact these two types depend on the game itself. how could that happen, because I think all slot games have been set up in such a way so that from the many types of slot games that exist. maybe there are only 3,5,8 that will give high rewards whether it's buying free bonuses or getting free spins.

why is that, just imagine. if all slot machines provide high rewards what will happen, it is certain that the casino will experience big losses. I have experience working in a land based casino being the mechanic part of a slot machine system. I will give a simple example, from 10 or 20 available slot machines, regardless of the type of game. only just setting up one or two slot machines that generate jackpots for their customers. the rest, only give a small reward.

note: currently everything can be set through the system from the internet network. because in the past, everything was completely manual to set up each slot machine.

which means, based on my experience.  of the many slot games, there are only 8,10, 12, types of games that really provide high rewards. So the problem is, who will win the prize. if you are lucky, maybe you will win the jackpot from one of these slot games.

The bonus that is being discussed here is not the usual bonus where it needs a wagering requirement or sort.

The bonus game is a slot feature where users can buy directly the bonus feature of the game be it as a mini-game or in the form of free spins. In the bonus game, chances of getting big multipliers are possible, and if by luck, we can end up with a big win after the bonus game.

There's a risk though that sometimes, you will end up with only a few winnings compared to the amount you spend to buy the bonus.

Much worst, literally, no winning like a shortcut to losing when you do manual spin for let's say, a $50 overall amount with no good wins on the way.

I think that the purchase of the bonuses is an option to consider, since I understand that for now many players prefer to make the profits themselves so as not to owe the bonuses, because the bonuses can be seen as double-edged swords that can harm them. However, I am one of those who think that when there is a bonus that does not have so much complication, it should be taken so as not to produce any type of eventuality other than the normal one and that it does not interfere with our game, and the most important thing, that is always sought is that there are no problems when you want to make a withdrawal of funds, that they say that you cannot withdraw money until you meet a certain requirement.

I suppose it depends on the strategy of each gambler. If there is a large bankroll involved and he is looking for fast gains, the bonus might be a good alternative, although nothing is guaranteed and losses are still possible. As I've watched slots' videos on youtube, I saw they were really good for gamblers in some crucial moments. Some whales make 2000$-5000$ from a big bonus purchase and can already quit for the rest of the day. But if the gambler has a low budget and simply wants to have some fun for the longest time possible, I don't think the bonus is a good idea, because this way he is going to have his money drained really fast, without big profits in counterpart, since the acquired bonuses will be the cheap ones... The only thing about slots that I think doesn't worth is to play with minimum bet.

We do not need to have huge bankroll to play and enjoy the bonus buy feature in slots game. It will always depending on how much we can spend. Even if we have few ten bucks only, we can still play with the bonus buy several times. How? By playing in casinos that provide pragmatic games and with changing currency feature. In casino where we can change the currency to IDR, we just need to spend 20k IDR per bonus buy with a chance to win millions IDR if we hit the max win in the game.

True and at least we can get a little return from gambling because we can get some winning money. And maybe that's also what makes some gamblers prefer to buy bonus features because they can get a bigger chance to get bigger winnings, especially people with a large balance of money. And that's what happened to me when I also bought the bonus feature. And if my balance wasn't sufficient to buy it, I preferred just to play normally. And buying bonus features is an option for gamblers to consider but we shouldn't regret it if we can't get anything out of the bonus because it's a gamble.

Hearing the word bonus, it may mean free of charge and implies positive feedback. However, in gambling it’s a different case. Bonuses are just some gambling casino’s way of luring us and made us play more and spend more. Yes, there are times that we can be profitable from it but most of the time, we end up losing. Casinos are business, so they don’t allow the players to take advantage on them.

Precisely. Casinos will never give us an advantage, but it’s certainly us that is most taken advantage of. And this buy bonus is never meant to make us profitable, but to make the casino even more profitable since we are buying bonuses from them when in fact bonuses should be given free just like it’s own denotation. But OP seems blinded by that.

You can almost guarantee that any "bonus buy" or promotional feature in the game is almost meaningless and only intended to get you to donate more money to the casino profits. All of the side games that they offer, all of the extra buttons, all of the free spins, are carefully calculated with the intention to get you to spend more money in the long run. The only reason they would offer these sorts of functionality is because it gives the user the illusion of control within the game when in actual fact they have none. All the odds are predefined, so while you might win a nice payout in the short term, if you were to play long enough they will ultimately wipe out your account balance.