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Title: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: gantez on December 14, 2022, 08:10:51 AM
I am reading it on line and it make me feel emotional with the appeal by follow bitcoiners begging musk not to include the Hal Finney's account to the list for those Twitter account he will delete when he announced that on 9th December.

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Finney was the first Twitter account to mention the subject of Bitcoin on the social media platform on Jan. 10, 2009, at 10:33 p.m. (ET). “Running bitcoin,” Finney tweeted that day and the tweet has more than 55,000 likes at the time of writing. The @halfin account has more than 69,400 Twitter followers on Dec. 12, 2022.

Will Elon listen to those voice or will his hate transfer to Hal Finney's account to make bitcoin unpopular more. I feel emotional about it when reading it when he say it that account not login that inactive will be deleted.

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Finney, who passed away in Aug. 2014, was the first to mention bitcoin in a tweet on the public forum.

Hal Finney first mention bitcoin in a tweet on the public forum  (https://news.bitcoin.com/while-elon-musk-plans-to-purge-1-5-billion-inactive-twitter-names-bitcoiners-beg-him-to-preserve-hal-finneys-account/)


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: mk4 on December 14, 2022, 08:21:16 AM
Given enough publicity to get his attention, I think it's highly likely that he'll consider not deleting Twitter accounts that have been owned by (confirmed) deceased users. As far as I know he's taken a good amount of opinions from Twitter users.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: Odusko on December 14, 2022, 08:28:30 AM
Twitter is a centralized platform and it activities and policies are made by the current CEOs and if Elon Musk decode to remove inactive accounts from Twitter it may affect users who used that social media as achieve and record of history of those passed.
Even though twitter seek to eliminate bots accounts and multiple account which are all elements of centralization,
Notable Bitcoin personalities in the past already know the risk of centralized platform, that is why they were more involved in other social media so it becomes hard for future whales to totally erased their posts as support to Bitcoin and even their contribution to Bitcoin development from the internet.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: gantez on December 14, 2022, 08:31:59 AM
Given enough publicity to get his attention, I think it's highly likely that he'll consider not deleting Twitter accounts that have been owned by (confirmed) deceased users. As far as I know he's taken a good amount of opinions from Twitter users.

I think also to be in the good side of the bitcoin public, he should leave the accounts related to bitcoin pioneer. Deleting any of the account change nothing for twitter, it will not increase volume of users, no additional value will add because they are deleted. Nothing of any value if that he will delete them so he should listen to voice of users.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: Betwrong on December 14, 2022, 08:58:04 AM
When you are going to purge 1.5 billion inactive accounts, which is, obviously the right thing to do, same as purging inactive employees, you don't delete accounts that "have a significant level of historical relevance", like
Lyn Alden stated in this tweet of hers:

https://i.imgur.com/ibTXIX1.png (https://twitter.com/LynAldenContact/status/1601257596043730950)

Musk is a smart guy. He won't delete Hal Finney's account, nor will he fire Twitter employees strongly devoted to their work.  At least, that's what I think. We'll see.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: Kakmakr on December 14, 2022, 08:58:32 AM
Elon Musk and his shareholders are business people and they concentrate on making profit. This is a business decision to open up more disk space and not to spend millions on more storage space for "new" and "active" users. (for a while...)

I think people should take screenshots of his most famous tweets... and they should archive it for prosperity on a website that are specifically used for the Bitcoin history. (We know these centralized platforms censor history to suite their agenda)  :P


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on December 14, 2022, 09:15:40 AM
Will Elon listen to those voice or will his hate transfer to Hal Finney's account to make bitcoin unpopular more. I feel emotional about it when reading it when he say it that account not login that inactive will be deleted.

Have you considered other social media networks like Facebook among others how they handle the account of their deceased users? don't give yourself unnecessary stress they don't delete user's account by any means, the least they do is to ban but yet one can access their history activities on thier timeline, in case of Hal Finney, he's got a good reputation already till his death and his account been inactive does not reduce the widespread of bitcoin or any progress asso to it since twitter wasn't his only social media accounts, the most reliable one is on the forum here as well with a VIP status and you can always get any update about his legacy.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: retreat on December 14, 2022, 09:26:40 AM
I am reading it on line and it make me feel emotional with the appeal by follow bitcoiners begging musk not to include the Hal Finney's account to the list for those Twitter account he will delete when he announced that on 9th December.


Maybe he won't delete Twitter accounts like this, maybe he will create a special feature which will secure the accounts of deceased people who have been reported by other users. The point is that we as users must be able to convey our opinions and criticisms directly to Musk's Twitter account, maybe he will listen to our opinion and change his mind.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: laurenB7742 on December 14, 2022, 09:53:20 AM
When you are going to purge 1.5 billion inactive accounts, which is, obviously the right thing to do, same as purging inactive employees, you don't delete accounts that "have a significant level of historical relevance", like
Lyn Alden stated in this tweet of hers:

https://i.imgur.com/ibTXIX1.png (https://twitter.com/LynAldenContact/status/1601257596043730950)

Musk is a smart guy. He won't delete Hal Finney's account, nor will he fire Twitter employees strongly devoted to their work.  At least, that's what I think. We'll see.
I agree with your thoughts, he is an intelligent person and always listens to contributions from the community. It's like he just created a vote on former president Donald Trump's account and followed the majority's request and wish. The intention to get rid of bots and inactive accounts is something he had wanted to do before he bought Twitter. For reputation accounts, and if the bitcoiners asks him not to delete accounts like Hal Finney's, I think he will not refuse.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: franky1 on December 14, 2022, 10:25:27 AM
i think the hair in the tail that everyone is missing is that there are only 1.5b usernames of twitter and its a snipe piece of false media to suggest that elon is deleting everyone unless they perpetually use twitter often


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: SquirrelJulietGarden on December 14, 2022, 10:49:11 AM
If Elon deletes the account of Hal Finney, it's not big problem for Bitcoin communities. Discussions between Hal Finney and Satoshi Nakamoto were shared and archived on many websites. Not all Bitcoiners will miss it if that account is deleted. We just over exaggerate it but if it happens (deletion), they will forget it quickly.

In my opinion, Elon is smart enough to avoid deleting legendary accounts. He more aims at farm accounts, spam accounts but not legendary accounts like Hal Finney account.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: Wapfika on December 14, 2022, 10:59:11 AM

In my opinion, Elon is smart enough to avoid deleting legendary accounts. He more aims at farm accounts, spam accounts but not legendary accounts like Hal Finney account.

Agree in this. Elon main purpose on purging is to delete farm account/bot accounts that flooding the twitter right now. Twitter is a centralized application which means Elon can spare those account that has contribution on there respective field as respect for there work when they are alive/active.

Elon is not the average joe and he is always reading the comment section especially on crypto. I’m sure this will be heard or we can do a petition in the purge already start.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: Queentoshi on December 14, 2022, 11:40:32 AM
I am reading it on line and it make me feel emotional with the appeal by follow bitcoiners begging musk not to include the Hal Finney's account to the list for those Twitter account he will delete when he announced that on 9th December.
The date for the announcement has passed, I would like to know the outcome though. Did he listen? What I think about Elon Musk is that he can be a tough person to appease. He will do what he wants to do without considering people's opinion to an extent. He is very successful, and one character successful people have is that they can be very difficult taking other people's opinion or advice especially when you are not someone with as much success as they.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: Little Mouse on December 14, 2022, 12:10:31 PM
You don't have to beg but have his attention lol. The comment from Lyn Alden is more than enough I think. Once it receives enough attention from the community, I'm sure it will get the attention from Elon Musk too.

However, I don't think Elon is going to be such harsh and delete all the inactive accounts which belong to famous people.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: shavebob77 on December 14, 2022, 12:33:02 PM
He usually listen to this type of stuff coming from crypto,gaming,geek community and all,so i think it's a safe bet that he'll spare it.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: buwaytress on December 14, 2022, 03:05:09 PM
As others, I did see the news about purging inactive users but never saw to mean including noteworthy verified (or confirmed) users who either are deceased or simply inactive. It's just to clear space for users who genuinely want account names but already taken by squatters/bots/farmers.

Probably might end up affecting genuine inactive accounts who never posted either, but if they've been spam free anyway, don't think they're in the sights of this purge.

Is there a Twitter memorial like FB? That's something Hal's account deserves.



Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: m2017 on December 14, 2022, 03:37:23 PM
As far as I know (this is not confirmed information and rumors), that accounts that don't have published posts will be deleted. Deleting accounts that have been inactive for many years and don't publish anything makes sense. I don't think that Musk will delete the accounts of people who have died long ago, like Hal Finney, because these accounts, despite the fact that the authors have not published anything for a long time, still continue to attract other users. These accounts are already in fact historical or museum exhibits, and their removal for the society will be an irretrievable loss. These are some kind of monuments. At the very least, I consider Hal Finney's Twitter account to be a monument to the bitcoin's history and it would be blasphemy to deprive future generations of this.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: dkbit98 on December 14, 2022, 03:49:38 PM
Hal Finney never wrote much on twitter, there is total of 41 tweets made by him with zero likes.
Most of his tweets are already archived and saved and there is always a chance someone could hack it and start new wave of controversy.
I would let Elon Musk do whatever he wants, because I don't really trust him after circus show he made with Bitcoin, Tesla and Doge.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: Odusko on December 14, 2022, 06:37:32 PM
I am reading it on line and it make me feel emotional with the appeal by follow bitcoiners begging musk not to include the Hal Finney's account to the list for those Twitter account he will delete when he announced that on 9th December.
The date for the announcement has passed, I would like to know the outcome though. Did he listen? What I think about Elon Musk is that he can be a tough person to appease. He will do what he wants to do without considering people's opinion to an extent. He is very successful, and one character successful people have is that they can be very difficult taking other people's opinion or advice especially when you are not someone with as much success as they.
The verified inactive accounts may not be deleted but what the new Twitter policy is focused on is the presence of bots accounts in the system, Hal Finney's Twitter account is the least of things we should worry about as a Bitcoin community since his posts have existed long enough to allow it copies in other places that can not allow them to become extinct.
So Elon Musk can do whatever he feels is right for his platform of it's clean up so be it let no one worry about that.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: The Cryptovator on December 14, 2022, 06:52:37 PM
Why is Elon going to delete well-known accounts? A social account contains a wealth of history. I don't even support any accounts, but who cares? He's insane and would do anything since he bought it. I believe he will think twice about deleting Hal Fenney's account. It is essential for the entire crypto community, not just Bitcoin. We don't want to lose Hal Fenney's valuable tweets.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: kryptqnick on December 14, 2022, 07:30:43 PM
I completely support the plea not to delete Finney's account, as it is of historical significance. The first tweet about Bitcoin, as well as Hal's legacy, are important and should stay. If Elon doesn't want deceased to have their accounts kept on the platform, he should come up with a sensible alternative, something like Twitter archives, as this matter goes beyond Hal Finney. Many people die, and some leave a legacy that should not be forgotten. Twitter deleting history, not preserving the past, is an unfair thing to do.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: dunfida on December 14, 2022, 10:14:38 PM
Given enough publicity to get his attention, I think it's highly likely that he'll consider not deleting Twitter accounts that have been owned by (confirmed) deceased users. As far as I know he's taken a good amount of opinions from Twitter users.
For sure he would really be making out exemptions because if he do continue or decided on including Hal Finneys account then it would really be just giving that negative impression and lots of criticism
out from Bitcoin community.He wont really be that dumb on not to know about history which it is really just right that he wont really be including it on the wipe out.
He wont really be that numb for preserving it since it is really been part of history which is something or that really needs to be saved up.
Elon would likely be listening on what has been requested.


Title: Re: Can Elon musk listen to bitcoiners not to delete Hal Finney's account
Post by: Furious 7 on December 14, 2022, 10:29:06 PM
With this condition I think this will be another consideration. But on the other hand, it now depends on Elon because indeed he is the one in power and if he really doesn't want it, it is likely that his policy will continue regardless of the many requests.
But I think if this is really talking about business then maybe he will withhold it and let this account continue because if it is not there will definitely be more sideways gossip about it even though it actually doesn't really have much effect on Elon either.