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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: MachineGam on January 23, 2023, 01:20:27 AM



Title: jl33213 SCAMMER
Post by: MachineGam on January 23, 2023, 01:20:27 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3520437

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436323.msg61634152#msg61634152

As you can see, she is offering Zelle in exchange for btc, for which I contacted by telegram to exchange $215, which I sent my details for the payment since she offered to go first, supposedly she makes the payment and I asked her to capture it to verify, which gives me a capture of the supposed $215 and the step never arrived and I checked my email that the zelle notification had arrived but beware the scam is that she sends you the email from zelle, supposedly the legal thing is that zelle sends you the payment notification with your own server


https://prnt.sc/9bplpCeV_Cno


Title: Re: jl33213 SCAMMER
Post by: Edwardard on January 23, 2023, 01:30:58 AM
He/she should get tagged very soon by DT members. But this is no surprise that they are a scammer. Just avoid dealing with or even contacting newbie accounts, almost 99% of the deals with them dont end well.
There are already a few reputable members in that section, why dont you deal with them ? Or maybe just use some p2p exchanges like bisq.


Title: Re: jl33213 SCAMMER
Post by: MachineGam on January 23, 2023, 01:36:28 AM
He/she should get tagged very soon by DT members. But this is no surprise that they are a scammer. Just avoid dealing with or even contacting newbie accounts, almost 99% of the deals with them dont end well.
There are already a few reputable members in that section, why dont you deal with them ? Or maybe just use some p2p exchanges like bisq.


My intention was to help her but luckily I wasn't scammed, I'm just posting scam alerts here

Good day


Title: Re: jl33213 SCAMMER
Post by: shasan on January 23, 2023, 11:21:55 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3520437

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436323.msg61634152#msg61634152

As you can see, she is offering Zelle in exchange for btc, for which I contacted by telegram to exchange $215, which I sent my details for the payment since she offered to go first, supposedly she makes the payment and I asked her to capture it to verify, which gives me a capture of the supposed $215 and the step never arrived and I checked my email that the zelle notification had arrived but beware the scam is that she sends you the email from zelle, supposedly the legal thing is that zelle sends you the payment notification with your own server


https://prnt.sc/9bplpCeV_Cno
It is good that you have taken the situation here. You have not been scammed but that person tried to scam you. If you checked your email and send funds then you could be scammed. But as you have checked closely to the email associated and/or checked the balance you could know that you have received a false email. Though I doubt you could send the fund.
Anyway, my point is that would you like to make us clear proof that this has been sent by the user you have mentioned?


Title: Re: jl33213 SCAMMER
Post by: sujonali1819 on January 23, 2023, 02:42:32 PM
Luckily you are not scammed. But I can not understand one thing that you have been inactive since April 02, 2020, and suddenly you came today and going to make a deal with a newbie. Also, I can not understand you already made 27 posts today after a long inactivity :)

btw it's another way of making scams. Maybe not a new way but you all should be aware of it. And OP please also try to share the chat between you and jl33213 so that we can tag him.


Title: Re: jl33213 SCAMMER
Post by: FatFork on January 23, 2023, 03:49:40 PM
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It's good that you did not fall victim to a scam. However, I do not see clear evidence linking your story to the suspected account. Could you provide the video of your chat conversation and a screenshot of the matching Telegram account that was mentioned in the post?

Another thing I don't understand, if you have the funds to exchange, why did you ask for a $50 no collateral loan here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436424.msg61639168#msg61639168)?


Title: Re: jl33213 SCAMMER
Post by: albon on January 23, 2023, 04:44:52 PM
Another thing I don't understand, if you have the funds to exchange, why did you ask for a $50 no collateral loan here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436424.msg61639168#msg61639168)?
But I can not understand one thing that you have been inactive since April 02, 2020, and suddenly you came today and going to make a deal with a newbie. Also, I can not understand you already made 27 posts today after a long inactivity :)
What you guys mentioned makes me not feel comfortable about the @OP. Can he answer? Also, he did not attach any Chat Logs with the other person, but from the screenshot that he put, it seems that the other person sent him a fake message for Zelle payments. It is good that he paid attention to the sender's email address, which is not Zelle's official Email. Whoever wants to carry out any financial transaction and guarantee his right, I advise him to do it with people of good reputation and rank in this forum, through central exchange platforms that allow the P2P feature, or through LocalBitcoins.


Title: Re: jl33213 SCAMMER
Post by: shasan on January 23, 2023, 05:27:42 PM
Also, he did not attach any Chat Logs with the other person, but from the screenshot that he put, it seems that the other person sent him a fake message for Zelle payments. It is good that he paid attention to the sender's email address, which is not Zelle's official Email. Whoever wants to carry out any financial transaction and guarantee his right, I advise him to do it with people of good reputation and rank in this forum, through central exchange platforms that allow the P2P feature, or through LocalBitcoins.
Not only that op also tried to help by filling a loan request of 220$, Trying to trade BTC to Zelle, waking up a long time later, and now asking for a non-collateral loan. These 4 situations make me nothing but laugh and these four situations made me think that the op is nothing but trying to make a scam.


Title: Re: jl33213 SCAMMER
Post by: Saisher on January 23, 2023, 09:20:27 PM
Quoting the picture here


I don't know how Payzelle works but this is an idiot way to scam of course you will need to verify first if the funds really arrive so you can confirm and check not because I received an edited screenshot of the payment  I will just send my fund right away and I agree no online financial platform will send you a notification through a Gmail, it's warning sign and I commend you for checking out details, jl33213 deserved a tag, we never know if some careless guy will fall to this trick.


Title: Re: jl33213 SCAMMER
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on January 23, 2023, 09:34:24 PM
My intention was to help her but luckily I wasn't scammed, I'm just posting scam alerts here

Good day
But you haven't shared all the details, like the screenshots of the chat between you and the accused. It's one of the vital pieces of evidence we need before passing on judgement if the accused is actually a scammer or not


Title: Re: jl33213 SCAMMER
Post by: Stalker22 on January 23, 2023, 10:56:04 PM
Also, he did not attach any Chat Logs with the other person, but from the screenshot that he put, it seems that the other person sent him a fake message for Zelle payments. It is good that he paid attention to the sender's email address, which is not Zelle's official Email. Whoever wants to carry out any financial transaction and guarantee his right, I advise him to do it with people of good reputation and rank in this forum, through central exchange platforms that allow the P2P feature, or through LocalBitcoins.
Not only that op also tried to help by filling a loan request of 220$, Trying to trade BTC to Zelle, waking up a long time later, and now asking for a non-collateral loan. These 4 situations make me nothing but laugh and these four situations made me think that the op is nothing but trying to make a scam.

I understand what you mean, and it does seem like the OP's actions and requests are suspicious. The question is whether the story is even true and what his real motives are. It is always best to be cautious and protect ourselves from potential scams, but we should also avoid jumping to conclusions and accusing someone of scamming without solid evidence. I do not think there is solid evidence here that the OP was really the victim.


Title: Re: jl33213 SCAMMER
Post by: shasan on January 24, 2023, 02:24:22 AM
I understand what you mean, and it does seem like the OP's actions and requests are suspicious. The question is whether the story is even true and what his real motives are. It is always best to be cautious and protect ourselves from potential scams, but we should also avoid jumping to conclusions and accusing someone of scamming without solid evidence. I do not think there is solid evidence here that the OP was really the victim.

First of all, op has not provided enough information. And base on the recent activity of the OP if the accused person would send the fund then the case could be the opposite. Cause I think the intention of the OP is to make a scam. Op has no funds, in this case, op how could send BTC if received Zelle?

As Zelle is a reversible payment gateway no legit user will take Zelle from a newbie.


Title: Re: jl33213 SCAMMER
Post by: AHOYBRAUSE on January 24, 2023, 11:33:17 AM
I understand what you mean, and it does seem like the OP's actions and requests are suspicious. The question is whether the story is even true and what his real motives are. It is always best to be cautious and protect ourselves from potential scams, but we should also avoid jumping to conclusions and accusing someone of scamming without solid evidence. I do not think there is solid evidence here that the OP was really the victim.

First of all, op has not provided enough information. And base on the recent activity of the OP if the accused person would send the fund then the case could be the opposite. Cause I think the intention of the OP is to make a scam. Op has no funds, in this case, op how could send BTC if received Zelle?

As Zelle is a reversible payment gateway no legit user will take Zelle from a newbie.

100% agreed.
He wants to "help" the other person but yet on the same day he is looking a for a loan, makes total sense.
If he actually got the 220$ then we would see the accused making an accusation against OP.


Title: Re: jl33213 SCAMMER
Post by: Timelord2067 on February 05, 2023, 10:21:06 AM
Impressive Yolo89's loan application was taken out 30 minutes prior to this thread being started.  In that thread both the OP (MachineGam) and TheChin0s join ps34 in giving glib comments about Yolo89's untrustworthiness (or otherwise) in the loan Yolo89 took out (and defaulted on) from Edward.

Oddly enough, the OP (MachineGam) wakes up and, a day later, starts this thread while TheChin0s to give them merit very soon afterwards.