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Hi to all the Bitcointalkers and gamblers!

I made this post because as far i can see nobody talk so much about this league so im going to put in this thread some info and hints for the rounds of the tournament and help you to bet in this amazing tournament of the Champion of the world.

First to all, as a lot of people know here, im argentinian , so i have a lot of knowledge in the local football by years and years of seeing it.

For most of you maybe im an unknown, but you can check if you want i play for two or 3 years in the mayority of predictions pools here in the forum, winning some and losing some others, because its not easy and you ahve to have skills and luck.

Well after this introduction im going to show you a summary of this year tournament.

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- This year we are gonna have 28 teams and a total of 27 rounds.

- This tournament went from 27 January until August 5.

- The relegation its a little bit tricky, this year we have two relegation by averages of the last 3 seasons plus one from the annual table.

- The qualyfication for Copa Libertadores and Sudamericana 2024 its gonna be taken from the annual table.

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Well after this minors details, im gonna put the first round below in a comment and in this first round im not gonna make comments because in the first round its really tricky to know how the teams really are after two months of no play.

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Here comes the initial table so you can see the teams. Im going to update the table regularly so this its main post keeps updated.

The newcomers of this years are the teams:

- Belgrano.
- Instituto.

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Feel free to make all the questions do you want and ask my here from hints for the matchs.

Sorry if the post its not so fancy or well developed but im not a professional making this kind of things. I hope a lot of you like this and i can help with the hints !.

Cheers darbit aka darxiaomi!

FIRST ROUND

Starts today in a few hours.

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The two first games are today.

Rosario Central - Argentinos Jrs

Defensa y Justicia - Huracan

RESERVED

BET FOR TODAY MATCH

ROSARIO CENTRAL OVER 4.5 CORNERS

Home game and a basic play for Rosario Central with Miguel Russo as new manager.
I expect a lot of crosses and balls inside the box.

Odds of 1.85 on SB.

After game i share the ticket.

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I am going to place my humble bet on San Lorenzo @1.77 and I am trying another Casino for an review.

For the match between Huracan and DyJ I am going to make a live bet, I do not see those probabilities very clearly.

Great thread ... I think it's a good tribute to the league of the current FiFa World Cup Champion.

Thanks man for coming here and comment in this thread.

Yes i made this one because i feel its a hole in the football forum also from Brasileirao Serie A, but i dont see that league so much so i cant make this kind of thread.

The yesterday bet was wrong because what i said its the first round so you cant know how the teams are, and the game was really strange, Rosario Central wins with only 24% of possesion, and a few shots.

DyJ and Huracan was a rain of goals. But i cant see the game.

Today we have some really good matches.

River against Central Cordoba with the debut of Martin Demichelis like manager of River.

As I told you, I was testing the bets there at betnomi ...


(I don't know if you agree) it allows us to keep the variance a bit in our favor in terms of probabilities, I don't know what you think.

 @1.5 to @2 generally keep a good return, that's what I mean.

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Edit:
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The Argentina league consists of 2 teams for me, River Plate and Boca Juniors. I don't know much about other teams and I rarely watch recaps of their matches. Maybe I can learn something from you here. But I don't place bets like corners, I prefer over/under goal bets and side bets.
Since the first week of the league has been played, I will only follow it for now. I will wait for the teams to keep fit and the results to be more obvious.
Which teams would you particularly recommend I follow? I think San Lorenzo and Newells Old Boys are also among the best teams in the league this season.

It's really nice to see a topic about the Argentine League on the forum. Frankly, I don't follow the Argentine League closely, but I know that Argentina, which won the last World Cup, is a country with talented footballers in every period of history. That's why I respect this league.

Last year, the league witnessed a very interesting final. River Plate defeated Racing Club in the last match. With this result, Boca Juniors became the champion. It was a very interesting moment indeed. River Plate scored and Boca Juniors became champions. The arch-rivals were honest with each other.

Hi! thanks all of you for your comments!

I will try to answer are your doubts and clear somethings.

First of all the Argentinian league like all the other leagues have a basis of "Big five" (like  Premier has the so called "big six"  Man utd liverpool, etc) .

Here these teams are:

- Boca Juniors
- River Plate
- Independiente
- Racing
- San Lorenzo

After this 5 teams are teams who are the most time in first division and rarely go down and plus in sometimes they have better performance than some of the "big five" (asides of Boca and River ), these are teams like :

- Velez Sarfield (more than 60 years in first division for example and one Intercontinental cup)
- Rosario Central (derby with Nob aka newells, and one of the biggest from inside the country )
- Newells old boys (also 60 years without relegation), and the team of Messi , Bielsa and a lot more, and his today manager its Heinze.
- Estudiantes de la Plata (winner of Libertadores several times)

With this you can have some idea of the mayor teams, in term of history fans and regularity , but we also have a lot more teams, and windows of time where some teams are better than others and some little clubs are very well.

Some "little" teams  who can make good tournaments time to time.

- Lanus
- Argentinos Jrs (former Maradona and some others club)
- Banfield
- Defensa y Justicia

I make separate post to not mix all the info and now answer more specifically.

@famososmuertos well looks like you are having a good time with this start. Yes i think in the same way and maybe more high odds, and also huge ones, i dont trust in low odds for the long run less in this kind of tournaments with a lot of irregularity.


Yes worldwide the only teams are Boca and River, Boca ,makes a big name from his wins in the early 2000 beating Real Madrid and Milan and only losing to Bayern Munich in a close one for the intercontienental cup.

As i said above i dont recommend any team before i see them in some rounds, because in this league the teams are really irregulars and they change so much players from season to season.

The two teams you mention are really good ones, San Lorenzo its part of the "big fives" but its experiencing a really bad present from some years not making tournaments at his height.
But... since the last season they seems to find the direction and yesterday their started with a win.

For Newells another good team with ton of regular seasons and the last title from 2013 with Martino as manager (former manager of Barcelona) and Maxi Rodriguez like key player. the last seasons of them not are good or bad, mid table. But now they have Heinze as manager and pulling out that of their lose the mayority of pre season games, i think they can do something.

In a few rounds i gave to you waht team i recommended to take a eye.


Yes man, that was a really good end for the league ,also Racing its the archi-rival of Independiente, the one who play against Boca, so they also can give the title to their archirival, a really uncomfortable situation for all the teams.

The Argentinian league its suffering so much from the economic problem of the country, we cant compete against other teams in terms of salary and a lot of players are sold fast.

WELL GUYS WE ENDED THE FIRST ROUND

And this is the summary.

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Source: Promiedos.com.ar

As we know, its only the first round so we cant have a clear panorama, but as i see, River Plate seems solid as fuck with the new manager Martin Demichelis (former player of Bayern Munich).

Boca Juniors still in the same pace as the year before, they dont play good but they win.

The team to keep an eye is Tigre, the past year they were really good but this year seems like they still in that pace so..... we can expect some of them, the had a really good win against Estudiantes in a away game.

when i watched this thread for a few minutes it brought me back memories of the past months when i was placing live bets on this argentine league, i remember i managed to make a profit but it was all thanks to luck, but in boca junior games i lost, they they made me very angry because I bet on them and they lost or drew, and as I didn't have the time and patience to watch all the games so I preferred to stop, frankly speaking this is a very difficult league for me I prefer the result before the game starts, so that the most I can do would be to follow the results of the games

Yes its a irregular one, but its strange you experienced that with Boca, because the last year they win the mayority of the games, i think you catch a bad streak  for them.
Sure you catched the two last games from the last season when they lost one and draw the another but they were champions anyways.

SECOND ROUND STARTING TODAY !!!!!


Today we have:

Newells old Boys - Velez Sarfield.

Tigre - Rosario Central.

Hints for today: I think we can have a good game at Tigre Rosario Central, and a victory for Tigre. Tigre its a good team and a strong one in home matches, and Rosario Central its really bad in away games. But its the start of the tournament so take a look.

Well its ended the second round of this tournament.

We have some big surprises in this round, it was a mega opportunity to bet on underdogs and win some big money.

Belgrano winning against River Plate, Platense winning against Independiente, Argentinos against Racing.

And Boca only catching a draw and nearly lose against Central Cordoba, Romero stop a penalty.

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Next Round Starts on Friday

I'm quite enthusiastic that there are now several new threads from other leagues including the Argentinian league.

To be honest, the last time I remember betting on the Argentinian league si 2014 was in a fiat casino. some very familiar teams are, River Plate, Boca Junior. also, often bet on the Brazilian League, and one of the teams I like is botafogo.

Speak Argentinian League, at least in the presence of this thread. we can go back to learn a lot to know the teams that are there as well as the players. at least, adding new knowledge references for me. Also, when we come to betting. I hope this thread gives us a lot of insight as well as knowledge presented by other members. I hope this thread will give us benefits and information, especially new insights.

That is a great thread you have started.I don't follow South American football as much as I did before now but it is good to read how things are developing there and let me tell you a true story of mine back in 2005-2007.When my parents were away for a business trip me and my brother used to bet on this league only on the derby of course when River Plate was playing at home in their legendary stadium El Monumental against Boca Juniors,we used to get up at 1.50 am of the night to watch the game because of different timezone,how much we regretted when River Plate was playing perfectly but they could not go more than a 1-1 draw,ah what great memories you made me come back with this thread.

Memories indeed,  i have been  betting on this league for more than two seasons now and last year my favorite team was Velez sarsfield not because they were the best but they deliver me whenever i placed a bet on them. The one thing about this league that i like most is the similarities between the league and my own country league. I guess it would be proper to the question why?  And the answer is that the home teams get a larger portions of wins and thats the same feat with my our country, the Nigerian premier league. Home advantage is something i like about the Argentina league,  and i certainly place my bet on velez,  boca juniors, River plate when ever they are at home playing and most of the times they always deliver.
Nice seeing a thread has been created on this league and i would be looking forward to following up. But the only disadvantage is that i don't get to watch most the games because of the timezone difference.

First of all thanks all of you for your kinds replies.

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Such a good times for the Argentinian league, yes now the Brasilian League its really big in terms of money and teams, they are destroying us.


Long long time ago man, another era in the domestic football, when Boca was in the end of his prime and River in the start of their fall.


I have to say really good choice you make, Velez its a little team in terms of popularity but a regular one fighting for top spots.

The last year was one of the unnusual times when Velez have a bad tournament, but its because they are recicling the players.

We have to wait a little more to have some really good hints in this tournament.

@darxiaomi a second inconsistent matches date for the "favorite" teams (?,) 3 of my bets failed to pass through the cash, https://ssl.gstatic.com/onebox/media/sports/logos/YkuS0LD4UowC0MDzpKqZXw_48x48.pngIndependiente, https://ssl.gstatic.com/onebox/media/sports/logos/wi-J-3U7th2bpIB_Uy9Euw_48x48.pngRacing and https://ssl.gstatic.com/onebox/media/sports/logos/YO1impuFJT2hex6wvCd9Pw_48x48.png Boca, two defeats and a draw.

https://ssl.gstatic.com/onebox/media/sports/logos/700Mj6lUNkbBdvOVEbjC3g_48x48.pngRiver Plate vs. https://ssl.gstatic.com/onebox/media/sports/logos/_Vs9SZ4f9XZbgLC2ee_GTA_48x48.pngArgentinos Juniors? Qué decís...

Wow, this thread is spectacular, darxiaomi, it's a great thread, I like that you can bring it here and thus make our South American football more thoroughly known, which is one of the best in football and more of the beautiful Argentina that has given us one of the greatest like Messi, Riquelme, Batistuta, among others, it should be noted that I love the Boca vs River classics, it is one of the games that I enjoy the most in this league, also I cannot say less than The games and emotions that are available here are on another level, I love this and it's great that you brought the Argentine tournament here.

Yes you are right , really hard round if you go for the favorites.

About the next match its complicated because Argentino Jrs plays really well its coached by Gabriel Milito (former Barca player and brother of Diego former inter player) , and in the other side River its still trying to find his form with this new manager (Demichelis former Bayern Munich defender).


Thanks man for this kinds words.
Yes its a very passionate league, and Boca-River, Racing - Independiente, Newells - Rosario Central, are really good derbys very passionate.

Also a few more like Union-Colon, Estudiantes - Gimnasia, Talleres Belgrano, San Lorenzo - Huracan.

Unfortunately the Argentine League seems too foreign to me, because the crypto gambling site that I bet on, does not contain this year's Argentine League matches, they only show like: Premier League, LaLiga, U20 Liga MX, Taca de Portugal, Morocco Cup, Italian Serie A, Saudi Arabia and others.

But I know several Argentine League teams/clubs, maybe I am very happy if the online casino that I use makes bets for the Argentine League to bet on for its users, so it will be easy for me to learn the best team in the Argentine League to bet on.

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That's what I mean, you're right, wait, I remember now if I'm not mistaken of course I have an account on the Sportbook, greetings for you to remind me again.

Then you should most probably move to one of the biggest sportsbook because every big crypto casino which also offers a sportbook alongside their slot machines and other related casino games have Argentinian league as this is one of the big leagues in the world of betting,they have a lot of teams there and usually every big casino has it.The big crypto ones offer a lot of competitions sorted alphabetically and Argentinian league is always on top of such list because they start with an A in their name.

I am also going further and assuming that most probably that sportbook does not even offer the benefits of the biggest casinos which give you tiers or vip levels alongside your bets,making each one of them count.

Really strange, a bookie without the Argennian league, most of them have the league, maybe less markets to bet than the regulars one but still there. I dont know what sportbooks do you use but you can have another account in other bookie.

Yes, totally agree and that's the point, if you look at some of the bookmakers they give River very good odds, when and that's the point there... you listen to one of those programs that are there, "in the play" with The microphone in the training to the match week, the match does not look so easy for River to win so, is not as favorite as it appears in some sports betting houses.

@1.70 (River) vs. @4.80 (Argentinos)  :o
^{x: @3.65 I like it, we can have an advantage here with the reality of the game that can occur between these two teams, although River at home is always difficult to lose, very difficult, I am about to opt for a tie. I'll tell...}

others odds sportsbookies (Here, BTT):
@1.68, x:@3.45, @4.7
@1.65, x:@3.55, @5.1  8)

For this reason, I was asking,  maybe your point of view you see more of a draw or Argentines putting a 1x2 in their favor, by the way, a forecast that I have seen on at least 2 websites.
Anyway! your answer was very biased, political as a narrator for ESPN Argentina. (  ;)  , okay, I understand.)

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^{...//...::It is very rare that the Argentine league does not appear in any SportsBook, in fact in those three that I refer to in one of them, 3 leagues appear, The Professional League, First National and even one has games for the first C division.}

Are you comparing me with "Pollo" Vignolo?  :D, no man but if was the past year team with Gallardo i can say to you put a win but after the last lose against Belgrano i dont know what to think.

Also Argentinos Jrs play good, i see them against Rosario Central in the first round and they deserve much more, and against Racing in the second one i dont see the game but they win but always we have a consideration with them because the Argentinos stadium its a piece of shit, the pitch its more short than the regular ones, and always you can see really strange matches and also long range shots.

The past round i forgot to put a interesting hint, between Belgrano and River, Belgrano sent River to the B league in the 2011 and after that they  managed to take good points from river. Its like a nemesis.

WAKE UP WAKE UP!!!!! THE ROUND ITS ABOUT TO START

Main games to take a look.

Talleres Boca on Saturday

River Argentinos JRs on Sunday

Racing Club Tigre on Sunday

+1...but,
What do you think of the "song", Passarella. :)

Argentine football has a court for the extra -sports theme to the best level of La Liga, well near, the La Liga is another level of gossip, they are the first,  :) .

There are tributes:
The only player of the Argentine selection FiFa World Cup champion that plays in the league is Franco Armani (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco_Armani), and they have added two Members of the technical body champion, Pablo Aimar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Aimar) and Roberto Ayala (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Ayala).

They stand out as guests the players who were champions in the world cups of the year 1978 and 1986:
And very apart from the novel that is lived with coach Daniel Passarella (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Passarella), it is very well to say he is the only Argentine player with two FIFA World Cup, 1978 and 1986. A very honorable title for this great former player of the Argentine team.

I dont know exactly what you mean with the Passarella song, but i will try to answer.

Im not a fan of River Plate so im not involved, but Passarella was the most better defensive player of the Argentinian footbal and also the only player with two World Cups.

The problem comes with him like president of River when he "sent" them to the B. Its a tricky sittuation but for me he deserve the tribute, because its a national team related.

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We have the two last games of the round tonight. But do you see how closely was the yesterday match between River and Argentinos? in the last minute that goal denied to Argentinos by a milimetric offside.

It is always good to show what is happening in South America, and honestly soccer in Argentina is very good, in fact, as I said before, Boca vs River is one of the classics that I like to watch, as well as the chants they do in the stadiums of Argentina have been copied and used in some South American countries because they are highly motivated, so it could be said that Argentina is a valuarte country of South American soccer and world soccer, I think if they had the sponsorship of big companies like in Europe This league would be one of the most famous, what happens is that most of the stars go to Europe and because of the attractiveness of the payment and to continue raising the level.

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Well, I was happy that River won, I couldn't watch the game  >:(, but it was a resounding 2-0, as far as Salo Rondón is concerned, I would like to see him score goals and contribute to the team, in Venezuela they don't recognize his work Maybe because he hasn't done much in the national team, but I'm glad that in Argentina he's well valued.

I to all sorry to no post this days, i was in travel so i cant post so much.

Today we start another round. The number 5.

LANUS its the only leader after 4 rounds with perfect score, and Huracan its behind them.


The intereseting match of this round are:

RACING LANUS

VELEZ BOCA


I really like him, i remember from his pass on Premier League and he was very good, its like a rock.

I thought I was smart yesterday night as I bet on Racing vs Lanus on Lanus win or draw,they have been on good form 4 wins out of 4 and yesterday that I did bet on them thinking to be smarter than the bookies I was surprised to see they lost despite them having the odd of 4.75 to win and double chance 1.95 and lost my bet.I have been starting to fall in love with this league despite this has changed a lot from the time I watched it where Boca Juniors and River Plate dominated the league completely,now these teams are not as strong as that time.

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I think the match between Central Cordoba vs Argentinos Junior will be a sweet finish on my multibet list. But unfortunately Argentinos Juniors failed to win in that match, even though statistically the head to head statistics of the two Argentinos Juniors teams were slightly superior. But it's okay, I'm just a little disappointed and it can't make me sad to bet on another match. ;)

Well, you have plenty of luck with the disallowed goal from Gimnasia, but bad luck with Argentinos, Argentinos its experiencing a really bad luck streak, they play really good, against River they didnt deserve to lose, and now the same. But you know, this its football.

The surprises of this round was the lose of River against Arsenal, i cant believe when i see that, also Arsenal comeback from a 1-0 disvantage.
And Racing took out Lanus invictus with a masterclass goal from Piovi really similar to the Messi goal in USA copa America.

ANOTHER ROUND STARTS TODAY

Some news before the matchs.

Boca Juniors went champion of a cup in the midweek agasint Patronato.

Most importante games of this round.

Lanus-River on Saturday.

One of the leaders against one of the biggest, River, take care on one thing, RIver seems to be strong in away games.

HURACAN SAN LORENZO on sunday

The derby of the city of Buenos Aires (if you want to know why that name to this derby, let me know in the comments).

San Lorenzo have a BIG paternity against Huracan historically, for example its like Liverpool Everton or Juventus Torino, San Lorenzo its more than 30 games ahead.

In this present the two teams comes with a good form but history can weight?

We can expect a lot of yellow cards.

Argentina was the good team in the football league,Since they hosting the league.They will have huge ground experience as compared to the other team.Most of the team which hosting the league will have the home experience.Already Argentina is the good team and this home experience will added them a advantage.Arsenal had win the river and make huge impact on the league.The river doesn’t expect this one from the Arsenal.Messi is the legend who had potential to control the world football team.He had individual game at the demand,not all the football players had this potential and experience.

Last week I won San Lorenzo against I don't know which team but the odd of San Lorenzo playing at home well over 2.30 were inviting and they are one of the stronger teams so I got for them and won the bet,they won 1-0 I believe against Union Santa Fe don't remember now but this team is looking in good shape now.If that is history them being 30 games before the other team which the name of Huracan does not say anything to me from this league I believe San Lorenzo to win again this time and I also think that the odds will be big enough,in fact even bigger than last game which can lead me to play them win or draw and make a sure win in this derby based not only in historical data but also on recent form of the teams.

I confess that I can not understand what is the point of your post

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CA Sarmiento - Club Atletico Rosario Central

Sarmiento comes to this game with an average performance in the last 5 games, they have not been lucky, in 5 games they only managed to win only one game, they have 2 draws and 2 defeats, but they have managed to score goals in most games, that it could be something positive because his opponent is rosario despite having only one defeat in the last 5 games they don't have a good defense in my opinion, but they have a good attack, which without a doubt is a big problem for Sarmiento, in my opinion Sarmiento You won't be able to win this game, so the best you can do is fight for a draw

Union de Santa Fe - Estudiantes de La Plata

Union de Santa Fe comes into this game with a very bad situation, in their last 5 games they did not go well for them, since they did not manage to obtain at least one victory, in 5 games they had 3 draws and 2 defeats, and a bad performance , but their opponent is not a strong team either and they are in a bad situation in terms of performance in the last 5 games, Estudiantes in 5 games only managed to obtain only one victory, but I even find it strange that the bookmakers place Union de Santa Fe as the favorite, in my opinion Estudiantes is a better team

River Plate managed to beat host Lanus with a score of 0-2 and this result simultaneously thwarted Lanus who wanted to stay away from competition in the standings. Now if we see that there are 5 teams that have won the same 12 points and only differed in goals, this makes the competition at the start of the season even tighter.

Hi to all! Sorry for not post this days, i was bussy.


Yes i said in my anterior post, River plays really good in away games, or rather they win. Anyway Lanus play better and have so much bad luck with two goals dissalowed by VAR.


Two things, your analisys was good, but...... its football and worst, its Argentinian football.

Rosario central plays really bad but it was having a tremendous luck in his favour. Anyways i dont know how they managed tolose 4-1 agains a weak Sarmiento.
In the other game i think the bookmakers give Union a better odds because they are at home, nothing more. After that game Estudiantes fired his manager Balbo.

Tomorrow we start another round, and i will post.

ROUND 7

Round seven its gonna start.

Matches to follow this round.

San Lorenzo Gimnasia on Saturday

San Lorenzo playing in home against a very poor Gimnasia they have to win this game to keep in the fight for top spots. Not go for a handicap because San Lorenzo its not a superpower in foward. Only San Lorenzo to win.

Defensa y Justicia Talleres on Saturday

Can be good odds because both team are in the fight.

Racing Sarmiento on Sunday

I cam see a easy win for Racing, they need the win to not lose the front wagonm and are a better team by far than Sarmiento.

About River, they play against Godoy Cruz and yes they have to win easily but we see them so much times strugling in home game so play with caution.

well, I didn't follow the news of the Argentine league, so after your post I went to research to see which coach they chose to continue the team, and I saw that they chose Eduardo Domingue who according to this article:

https://thesportsgrail.com/estudiantes-name-dominguez-as-manager/

I don't know this coach very well and the history of the teams he coached and in the article they don't mention anything about whether he has won the league and how many times, so I googled to see what this coach has achieved as a coach and I saw that he hasn't won the league yet, so I see that Estudiantes, when hiring this coach, aims to finish in a good position but they don't dream of winning the league

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Barracas Central - CA Independiente

just 2 minutes have passed and CA Independiente has already scored a goal and is winning, in the last 5 games CA Independiente had 3 draws so that even if they are winning in this game they can still end with a draw, that's why I wouldn't bet on them, currently the odd is @ 1.45 even though they are winning, this means that bookmakers expect them to concede a goal and the game ends in a draw

Hi man, thanks for coming back here.

Well Dominguez its a "young" coach, before he was a player, he had a really good time and seasons with Colon playing really well, but after that he tried in a big club like Independiente and the things doesnt go like they wanted, after that he goes to Huracan and he cant make the things happen. So all the hype on him dissapear, i dont know if its a good coach for Estudiantes, not because for him, because the Estudiantes fans likes more other kind of manager.

About Independiente... they didnt find the path and doesnt play well, his manager has no experience. Also Barracas Central its the team of the president of AFA "chiqui Tapia", so they are all the time benefit. One more fact of color, in Barracas plays with the number 10 the son of the president.

I like that attention is being paid to the competition in Argentina. Occasionally there is still quite a high level in the teams, but this competition is relatively unknown to the general public. Almost all of Argentina's major players all started playing football in this competition and were then removed by scouts from European top clubs. I don't know which teams are currently at the top in Argentina, but there will always be good players who leave for Europe sooner or later. With which club Messi was growed up?

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One of today's opening matches between Argentinos Junior vs Arsenal Sarandi ended in a 1-1 draw. I thought betting on Argentinos Juniors' victory was enough to make me doubt and change the bet to over 2.25, but in fact superior ball possession couldn't make them score early and it was Arsenal Sarandi who scored first in the 66th minute and after heading into the game it was over then Argentinos Juniors equalize to a draw. I still have hope for another match because in my multibet, the result of this match only results in a half loss. I hope the other matches this week can produce better results.

Yes if Argentinian teams can hold the players we make this can be a top league like the national team, but its economically imposible.

Lionel Messi grow up in Newells Old Boys from Rosario like other thousand of players, Scaloni (manager of Argentina), Samuel, Batistuta, Martino , Bielsa etc.

Yesterday the argentinian press said, Rosario Central its gonna send a formal request to Di Maria to comeback.

Rosario Central and NOB (newells) are the derby of the city.



You know Arsenal its always a headache team, they always make all the teams to lose points, they are shit but always managed to destroy hopes.

 :o

I confess that I was shocked by this information, how can they accept that the president of the Argentine Football Association is also president of a team that is playing in the main league? how can they guarantee that the competition will be transparent and honest in this way? it is not possible that the Argentine Football Association does not have rules that prevent this type of thing, this is shameful and regrettable, I thought that corruption and lack of honesty, manipulation of results, only happened in the soccer of my country where the politicians of the The party in power are also team presidents and the sponsors of the teams are state companies for the party in power to have full control over soccer in my country. I didn't know that in Argentina they also had similar things

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Instituto 1 - 1 tucuman

well, looking at the data (because I didn't watch the game, there are many games that I have to watch at the same time, so it's very difficult to be able to watch all the games), Instituto was the first to score a goal, they scored very early, right after In the 27th minute they were already winning, but I think that the red card they received in the 43rd minute was decisive for them to concede a goal and the game to end in a draw, but I must congratulate Instituto because it is not easy to play with 10 players and not losing the game, their opponent tucuman doesn't seem to be a strong team in attack, in the last 5 games they haven't managed to score more than 1 goal in a game, so even playing against an opponent that had 10 players they also couldn't score more dock 2 goals, that's bad

Racing club managed to beat Sarmiento with a narrow score of 1-0. Racing club as the host really dominated the match and the goal scored by Rojas Romero towards the end of the first half made Racing club managed to secure full points in this match.

River Plate, who is competing today, also won over his opponent Godoy Cruz with a landslide score of 3-0 without reply. Luckily River plate got 2 penalties in the second half which kept their victory locked until the last minute.

La Plata managed to win in the last minute of the match over his opponent Huracan. La Plata had taken the lead in the early minutes by a goal scored by Boselli, but in the second half their position was immediately equalized by a goal scored by Gallerani. In the 80th minute Huracan had to play with 10 men because Sauro received a red card and La Plata took advantage of the opportunity to score again in the extra minute which made the score 2-1.

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This is my multibet, there are 2 matches left that will take place soon Banfield vs Boca Juniors and Rosario vs Union, these will decide the outcome of my bet.

Well its more normal than we think, actually in all this kind of association the only who can present for the spot are the president of one of the club so theorically its nota gainst the rules, and this its in all kind of association like i said before, for example in the construction camera the president change but its allways a president of one company of construction , and its elected by all the other presidents. Or the Pope itself you need to be a priest to be elected.

Coming back to the issue, now its his son in charge of the club from like 2 years ago.

The probelm cames when the corruption its high and the control bodies fails.

Where are you from?. Here the clubs are from the people we dont have enterprises behind. Obviusly some politics and enterprises are involved but no oficially.

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Rendravolt, what a bad luck on the Boca game, Boca its playing really bad from a long time.

TODAY STARTS ANOTHER ROUND

ROUND EIGHT

Union - Racing today. Lets see if Racing can keep up his recovery and take the train to the high spots.

In this round we have:

LA PLATA CITY DERBY

GIMNASIA ESTUDIANTES

Estudiantes  its having a very good run against his rival from several years. They dont loose since 2010. So you can considering bet on this game... But you know its footbal and a derby

BOCA INSTITUTO

On sunday, Boca needing a win to not let the claims rise. In home i think they can win.

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The leader San Lorenzo visit Newells on  Monday.

Newells its not playing good, but they are strong in home games. 3 wins in 3 games.

To be honest, I'm still learning about special terms or nicknames for several other important matches in the Argentine league. But I have done multibet bets for several Argentinian league matches this week, including Union vs Racing. In the previous match Racing managed to win 1-3 at home to Union and I have never hesitated to place a bet on Racing's win.

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Maybe I'll learn more about other matches, after I see the schedule it turns out that matches in the Argentinian league last until Tuesday (according to the time zone where I live). It turned out that I also missed other important matches like Derby La Plata, San Lorenzo and Boca. Thank you for providing this information, it helped me a lot.

Well today we have one match left, but its not an important one so we can say we ended this round. (today match Velez - CC)

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Rendravolt, you ticket not ended well after a good start.

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What can i say about this round... i think a lot of Estudiantes fans can blame me, they lost after 13 years one derby. Boca lost and played horrible in his home against Instituto.

Newells wins again in home against a really patethic San Lorenzo with 0 ideas and lose the leader, now in hands of River Plate.

About me, i win a really good ticket in live, and i think it was more luckly than skills this time. I share with you.

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Match between Velez Sarsfield and Central Cordoba de Santiago Both teams will be looking forward to secure the three points in other to improve their position in the league table. This exciting match promises to be a spectacle of skill and determination from both sides. This encounter is regarded as an important match for both teams regardless of the visiting team bad form they can still get something out of this match but that's dependent on their performance in this game.

Man, stop copypasting and making individual post...

Well yesterday Velez destroy Central Cordoba, 4-0, but more important its the new start of Gareca (former Peru national team manager) in the bench of Velez, he had a very good history with Velez, he went champion with them and fight in Libertadores a few years ago, so let take a look on how the team develop but it can be a reborn for Velez with him.

International break so we dont have so much to talk, but we can have some fun facts.

We can see several argentinian players playing for europeans national teams.

- Vombergar for Slovenia.
- Briasco and Zelarrayan for Armenia.
- Retegui for Italy (score a goal against England).

I'm from mozambique


in the case of my country, the clubs do not have just one owner, the clubs in my country have many members in which they are people from the political party that is running my country, they used a disgusting scheme in which the clubs will not give space to anyone that it is not for the ruling political party to have any success, the scheme consists of the following:

my country's teams are sponsored by state companies, that means that all my country's teams have the same sponsors, my country's league is also sponsored by state companies and has some private companies, the state tv channel too keeps creating barriers so that other channels do not transmit and call from my country, with that the corruption and manipulation of games and results has all the conditions to never stop, they are 100% sure that they will be active

because of this corrupt system, my country cannot even represent well in international games, we are always ashamed

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Estudiantes - Newell’s Old Boys

Estudiantes come to this one with very bad results, in the last 5 games they only had 2 wins, they have 2 defeats and 1 draw, another very interesting fact is that in the last 5 games they managed to score goals in most of the games but the downside is that also conceded a goal in most games. on the other side we have Newell's Old Boys who in the last 5 games only lost in just 1 game, had 1 draw and 3 wins. in my opinion Newell's Old Boys will win this game

Rosário Central - Gimnasia

Rosário comes to this game with a mixed performance in the last 5 games, in their last games they only had 2 wins and the positive part is that they are 2 games without losing, their opponent is also in a very similar situation, they also had only 2 wins in the last 5 games and arrive for this game coming from a victory. this will also be another difficult game to predict the outcome.

if I was going to bet on these two games, I would go on the market for both to score

Really sad to heard that Slow. So you are from the birthplace of the "Pantera" Eusebio.

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ROUND NINE STARTS TODAY

And yes this caught me by surprise also  ;D .

Today matches between.

Defensa y Justicia (3°)  and Velez (10°), but really take a look on Velez with Gareca they can fight the championship.

Argentinos- Godoy Cruz , not so much to say about this game, but Argentinos pitch its always complicated for his dimmesion.

GOOD GAMES OF THIS ROUND TO BET

RIVER - UNION

Clearly River have a good game to recover his image in home games.

RACING - HURACAN

Good match to see and bet in live. Racing to put them really into the fight with a win.

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Good to see your analisys man, about that, take care about NOB because they play really good in home games (4wins in 4 games) but they dont play good in away games, i dont know why, but lets see if this remain in the long run or change.

About Rosario Central...... yes its a good bet the both to score, because asides of the possition of Rosario Central they play really bad.

ROUND 10

The 10 round has started today, and are in play some games.

In this round we dont have so much good games to look into, but we have the derby of Rosario, Newells host Rosario Central, Messi team against Di Maria team.

Rosario Central its doing really well in the last times, RC dont lose in Newells stadium for more than 10 years. (the last time i said something like this in a derby game the run was cut).

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Another thing to look into its, a lot of teams played international cups in midweek so we can see some missing players or fatigue.

today we have a lot of games, there are so many games that it's very difficult for me to follow all the games at the same time, but I'm trying, so far 2 games have ended, but I don't watch the games

Velez Sarsfield 3 - 3 Banfield

the data from that game are a bit funny because until the 82nd minute Velez were winning the game by a good difference in points, there were 2 goals difference, but something shocking happened, in 10 minutes Velez conceded 2 goals and the game ended with tie, something quite shocking because until the 82nd minute it was expected that they would win this game, it's hard to imagine a defeat when the team is winning with a difference of 2 points and the game only has 10 minutes left or less to end, honestly it was very bad luck that Velez had

Talleres 3 - 0 Barracas Central

it was a very easy victory for Talleres and not something shocking because Talleres is much better than Barracas in the table position, in the last 4 games Barracas did not manage to win in any game, they only managed to have 2 draws, while Talleres in the last 4 games had 1 victory and 1 loss and 2 draws, in terms of performance of the last 4 games these two teams do not have many differences, but on the field the difference was very big, Talleres did not concede a goal and scored 3 goals, with this victory stays in second position

The Velez Sarsfield Banfield was a really crazy game.

Thiw week we have a midweek round that starts today.

ROUND 11

MAIN MATCHES.

SAN LORENZO - BOCA JUNIORS


Tomorrow a big match and a minor derby, Boca new coach Miguel Almiron its gonna be in the bench for first time. San Lorenzo wants to keep in the title fight. San lorenzo in home games its unbeaten. Boca its in really bad shape but you know all can happen.

RACING NEWELLS

Newells plays really bad in away games, and Racing needs the win to not lose the upper spots.

today we only had 1 game.

Tigre 1 - 0 Sarmiento

this was a game in which the tiger came with the same performance as the sarmiento, the tiger had in the last 4 games 1 victory, 1 draw and 2 defeats, while the sarmiento also had 1 victory, 1 draw and 2 defeats, both teams had a mixed performance in the last 4 games, but the tiger is in a better position in the table in relation to the sarmiento, already in the field it was clear the dominance of the tiger that had 64% of ball possession while the sarmiento had 36% of ball possession . the tiger created more and better opportunities to score a goal, but wasted many of these opportunities and only managed to score only 1 goal.

while sarmiento had a penalty that the referee did not mark, in my opinion it was a clear penalty but the referee ignored it, then the incidents of discontent began, which in a way are things that only give a bad image to a league, almost there was a fight

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the police were forced to intervene, I think that kind of thing is not good, in the game the teams must play on the field and after the game is over there is no reason for fights and insults, the coaches and players of the teams must set a good example of peace and good conduct so that the fans follow this good example. I hope this kind of thing doesn't happen again in the future for a good image of the Argentine league

Why is Boca Juniors suffering this much during this season?I saw the game live against San Lorenzo and they played really disorganized football as they did not seem to coordinate with each other and their main attacker,Benedetto missed quite some goal opportunities in that game.I know San Lorenzo is stronger team but both commentators of the game said that the team were not pleased with their manager and their results is showing that.I already knew about their problems and bet on San Lorenzo to win and won my bet but I feel sorry for Boca.

I dont see the game because i wnet to see another type of football, i went to see some FUTSAL.

I checked the video, and yes i think it was penalty but the referee are gonna say "the ball hit before in the leg of another player bla bla".


The problems in Boca comes from a long time ago, this board of directors, and more specifically Riquelme (the former player of Boca, Barcelona, Villarreal, and national team), its management the club really bad in term of football, for example they choose the manager of the team always from their friends or ex Boca players, and they are not so good as a manager.

For example if you see the last markets of players, Boca doesnt buy any good player to reinforce the team, i know the situation in term of economics in the whole country arent good, but this its not an excuse.

Boca still have better team than the mayority but the problems are rising, now its coming the elections in the club, and seems like the president who its backed by Macri (former national president 2015-2019 and Boca president in alte nineteens and earlies 2000) its gonna win, and this can gonna bring a new wave of money.

The forum people with more gambling interests will have their posts in this section. When the game football was raised, we can’t skip the team Argentina from it. Because Argentina was lead by Messi, some people watching football till now for Messi. Messi not only lead his game but also teach the football the game to the players. Most of the places  Argentina will rise their flag for the title. Now the League is inaugurated by the Argentina, So we expect them to host the flag on his home ground. My suggestion for the Argentina not to participate in the league. Because they are organising the league and the have enough cup in the history. So they allow small team to show their talent.

WE ARE BACK

ROUND 13

Sorry for not being so active in this thread i was pretty busy.

Important matchs in this round.

Rosario Central - BOCA: Rosario Central its being very strong in home, and Boca comes with a low level, but they win in mid week in a  Libertadores game, they played pretty bad.

RIVER INDEPENDIENTE: Not so much to say, River its the first team in the league, and Independiente its crumbling with a deep institutional crisis, his president went off from the charge and they are gonna have big troubles for bankrupcy. Easy River win we can expect.

ROUND 14

Big games this round.

RACING CLUB VS BOCA JUNIORS

Both teams reach this game in crisis. Boca in a more severe one, they need to wake up NOW. And racing with a mid one, but the people started to discuss about Gago (manager) continuty.

Racing its better and have better players, but...

ATLETICO TUCUMAN RIVER

Atletico becomes stronger in home games, and River its the best team by far in the league.

situation of boca juniors is very serious, in the last 5 games they only won 1 game and in general everything gets worse because in 13 games they only managed to win only 4 games, they only managed to score 15 goals, and a team with serious problems in the attack, I don't know what it's happening to them but to have such a mediocre performance is very strange because they had a draw and a victory in the Copa Libertadores, so they are doing well in the Copa Libertadores, but in the Argentine league they are very bad, at this rate I will not be shocked if we see them playing for not be demoted


in 13 games the river only lost in 2 games, in the last 5 games it won in all of them and a great particularity is that the river has not conceded many goals, but has managed to score more than 1 goal in most games while tucuman us last 5 games won in only 1 game, but has many draws and could take this game to another draw, this is a game for both teams to score

"El Superclásico del Torneo Binance 2023"

The classic is coming. That you have us in predictions for that day, Mr. OP. ( Or foreros)

I don't think we'll have problems seeing River win...(!?)

Take care with that,  Boca its not doing well on Libertadores, they played again really low level teams, and their group its really easy, also they win the game against Pereyra in the minute 88 and 90+5.

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Yes the superclasico its now behind the corner.

Two weeks ago we can say safely River its gonna win, but now things are changing River yesterday lose 5-1 to Fluminense in Libertadores (the result its a little exagerate), and Boca win his last game agains Racing, so its not gonna be that easy.

Obviusly River keeps being a much more better team than Boca.

ROUND 15

WE HAVE SUPERCLASICO

RIVER-BOCA

River being the leader of the tournament and the most regular team so far, Boca being on one of his worst starts.

But last week things changed a bit, River losing 5-1 in Libertadores and Boca winning in Libertadores.

Lets see what team its gonna be the winner.

SAN LORENZO DEFENSA Y JUSTICIA

A really important game, between the second and the third in the leaderboard, more considering they want to catch River in the top spot, and river facing a really hard game.

San Lorenzo - Defensa y Justicia

this will undoubtedly be a well-played game because both teams are at the top and come into this game with acceptable results, San Lorenzo who currently occupies the second position well into this game with a draw in their last game and failed to score a goal in the their last league game, but San Lorenzo's problem doesn't end there, in the last 6 games San Lorenzo hasn't been able to score more than 1 goal, although they haven't conceded many goals either and they are in second place, this problem of not scoring many goals is something that can harm them. on the other hand, we have Defensa y Justicia, who in the last 5 games had a defeat and then had a sequence of 4 victories, having managed to score at least 2 goals in their last games. my guess is that Defensa y Justicia will win this game, they also have a good defense and a better attack

Racing - Talleres

the difference between these two teams in the table is big and their performance in the last 5 games shows a considerable advantage of Talleres that although some news sites that I could read say that Talleres will lose because they will play away from home I don't think so , Talleres in the last 5 games had 2 wins and 2 draws and a defeat, but it comes from a victory against rosario that is in position 6 and see that Talleres in the game against rosario scored 3 goals and conceded only 1 game. while their opponent Racing in the last 5 games has not won in any game, and only in their last two games have they conceded 3 goals in each of the games, that's why, in my opinion, Talleres will win this game

I was very busy again so i cant make time to make a post in this thread.

Today starts round 17.

Games good to see:

Argentinos - Boca Juniors. A little pitch of Argentinos can bring some problems to Boca, also Argentino plays really good football.

San Lorenzo Instituto San Lorenzo in a home game they want to catch River so they have to win this one. Instituto its a very fighting team.

River - Platense River needs a win to retake the path of winners after a lose in Cordob a against Talleres, Platense its one of the most weaks teams in the tournament fighting for relegation.

Belgrano - Talleres

Talleres comes to this game with a sequence of 5 consecutive victories in the last 5 games, they have shown that they play very well on the field, in their last game Talleres managed to beat the river plate in a game of great importance in strategic terms, with the victory do Talleres over the current leader of the table, they managed to reduce the difference of points a lot to 7 points and if they win in today's game they will be in the second position in the table and with 33 points, that is they will only have a difference of 4 points from the leader of the table, of course if the leader of the table wins in his next game which will be tomorrow in my country's time zone, then they will have 4 points of difference with the second place, but it is very difficult to imagine that the river plate will lose against platense who is a much weaker opponent.

but back to Belgrano's game against Talleres, Belgrano's performance in the last 5 games was not a very good performance. but it wasn't a very bad performance that they had in the last 5 games either, the fact is that in the last 5 games Belgrano had 2 defeats and 3 wins, coming into this game with a defeat against boca junior, in a game in which they They conceded 2 goals and failed to score any goals. my guess is that Talleres will come out victorious in this game

Sarmiento - Huracán

Sarmiento had a good performance in the last 5 games, in 5 games they only lost in 1 game, they had 1 draw and 3 wins and they have 2 consecutive wins and 3 consecutive games without losing and another very interesting data and that they they are 2 games without conceding a goal, meanwhile their opponent Huracán in the last 5 games has mixed results, in which 2 defeats, 2 draws and 1 victory. I see Sarmiento winning this game

Colón - Barracas Central

without a doubt that this is the type of game in which it is very difficult to predict who will be the winner, both teams are inconsistent and in the last 5 games they had mixed results or with few victories, Barracas Central for example in the last 5 games won only once and had 3 draws and a loss while their opponent had 2 wins, 2 losses and 1 draw. my guess would be a draw

I agree with Talleres coming out as victorious in this game too,Belgrano is somewhat of a high volatile team and most likely they are going to lose in tonight game.To be sure though I would bet on Talleres draw no bet as they have been running on a great consistency above all and the results have start to come,they are now near the top of the standings.

For Sarmiento I also agree that most likely they will win but I am not as sure as the game of Talleres while for Colon vs Barracas Central I strongly favor Colon De Santa Fe to win this game as if they don't win against Barracas Central at home then against which team will they win.Let me go and place some nice bets on Argentina Superliga as I won 0.10 Litecoin from the games of afternoon.

Belgrano and Talleres are derby of Cordoba, so we cant do so much analisys. The match ended 1-1 in a very passional game.

The other two games you mention also ended up in a draw, very strange but well this its football. Huracan has changed his manager the last round now B ataglia former manager of Boca its the new manager.

ROUND 19

Round 19 its gonna start, im missing so rounds or comments here because im busy, sorry for that, b ut if you have any doubt dont doubt to ask me.

River Plate Defensa y Justicia

Two of the contender for the title, River still good on local tournament, but they are expericieng a big presure thinking about the Libertadores in midweek, also Armani the goalkepper of River its making so many mistakes.

wasn't aware of this topic, have one question
what do you think, if you follow Gimnasia LP at all, about Mathias Melluso, seems to be often injured, and it is hard to find some information about injuries (have his card on Sorare platform, and he is usually good defender, but often missing matches)

do you have some suggestion on good site/news to follow Argentina football league (sorry if I missed it in previous posts)

EY man, nice to see you here!

Well i really dont follow GELP so much, i know the player you are talking about b ecause he is one of the regulars one on the eleven of GELP (gimansia lp), about injuries..... in Argentina we have a lot of muscular injuries for two main factors:

1- The argentinian footbal its very rough and harsh to play, every player you comeback from europe always strugled with this, its slow but very physical.
2- The personal trainers of each team, some PF makes a bad preparation or make the player do so much work and they start being injured so often, for example here Newells old Boys fans are asking to replace his actual physical trainer for this issue, they have a long list of injuries.

I dont know any about Sorare, you can enlight me, you have to pay? you can earn money?, how its meassure?.

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When im gonna post i go to check, but i see Melluso in good condition also he its gonna play this week against Union. I see in 10 may he maybe lose a game because he lose his mom.

thanks for this info, that is probably the reason, he had some injuries last year, and I thought he is up to similar season again, but obviously it is family loss

regarding SorareSorare (https://sorare.com/), yeah, it is fantasy football, you have to have NFT cards to play, and Argentine football is covered with these, you play with 5 cards (goalkeeper, defender, midfielder, attacker and extra cards that cannot be goalkeeper), and result is based on their performances
since WC, there are also free competitions as well, you get 8 common cards, and play fantasies (EPL, La Liga, Calcio, Ligue1, Bundesliga and MLS (USA)), that is free to try, but it is really hard to get to reward paying positions

not sure that I would recommend it at the moment, I am playing due to having cards for few years now, but reward budget slipped for all competitions, and it is getting harder to get any reward, but it is free to try now
also, they have NBA and MLB, if you following those

Barracas Central - Rosário Central

Barracas Central in the last few games managed to get good results, and in the last 5 games Barracas Central managed to have 2 wins, 2 losses and 1 defeat and currently occupy the number 18 position with 19 goals scored and 26 goals conceded, they have a very weak attack and in this game his opponent Rosário Central in the last 5 games only had one defeat, having had 3 wins, 1 draw and 1 defeat and currently occupy the number 5 position with 29 goals scored and 23 goals conceded, which shows that he has better attack in relation to Barracas Central, so in my opinion Rosário Central will win this game

Independent - Sarmiento

Sarmiento comes to this game with average results, although in the last 5 games they have not lost in any game, they only won in 2 games and comes from a sequence of 3 consecutive draws, currently occupying the position number 13 with 18 goals scored and 15 goals conceded, they don't have a great attack but they have a good defense, on the other hand, their opponent Independiente in the last 5 games only won in 1 game and comes to this game with a sequence of bad results, I see this game ending with a draw

Boca Juniors - Lanús

Lanús comes to this game with a good performance, being that in the last games they only had 1 defeat and in the last 3 games they have very positive results, 1 draw and 2 wins, currently occupying the number 6 position with 27 goals scored and 17 goals conceded, this shows that their attack is very good and they have a good defense, meanwhile their opponent Boca Juniors in the last 5 games had 2 defeats and 3 victories and in the last game they had a defeat, currently they occupy the position number 10 with 22 goals scored and also 17 goals conceded. in my opinion I see Lanús winning this game

Thanks Slow death for comment.

Yes we start a new round today. Round 20.


Central in away games its not so solid, and Barracas..... can make a win in  home if they receive the usual arbitral help.


Independiente needs a win desperately, they are a BIG club and they have a big fear for relegation, the stadium its gonna be a boil.

the games of that round did not have any result that was not expected when it comes to the game of the team at the top of the table, the river plate that played against the institute managed to win in a very comfortable way, although in the 1st minute of the 1st half the institute scored 1 goal, the river plate managed to reach a tie at 34 minutes, until now the game was very balanced, until at 46 minutes the institute received a red card and with that it was left with only 10 players, that was great luck for the river plate that managed to score 2 goals and won the game. probably if you didn't have that red card, the river plate would have difficulties to win the game

on the other hand, talleres will play against lanus, in a game in which it is expected that talleres will have a lot of difficulties to win the game, lanus has not lost in the last 5 games and has shown to have good defense, which is why a draw would not be a surprise, in fact there is a greater chance of this happening, with a big difference in points, something like 10 points in relation to first place, a loss of points in that game will leave talleres much further from the top, so for me it is safe to say that the river plate will be champions this season, I don't see talleres or other teams competing with the river plate

Ey thanks for coming to the thread.

Yes we missed a interweek round, nothing changed so much River keep making his way into the championship and seems like Talleres its the only one following them. San Lorenzo its losing the grip.

Today game between Talleres and Lanus its gonna be very interesting, i think Lanus its gonna win and Talleres its gonna start to fall from the leaderboard.

I am not very familiar with the Argentinian football leagues but due to the fact I have got friends there I would like to learn a bit more about it. Here in my country is all about baseball, we do not have such a football culture like people in Argentina does, (I assume)

Does an important percentage of the country follow the matches, by the way? I am curious about it.

Hi, Hispo strange to see you here and not in the local board :P

Well yes i think its near to 80% easily, and the 20% who dont follow its because they are women (now the number of women seeing football its rapid increasing) and obviusly people who dont like footbal or sports in general.

The 90% of people who play other sports follow football or also they start playing other sports because they cant be sucefull on football. For example Del Potro was a tennis player but he is a fan of Boca.

80% is a lot of people, specially in a country as big as Argentina... I was expecting you to claim some figure between 40-60%.
So that means the market and the sport tourism is important there in Argentina? People traveling to get to see in person the most important local matches, what is what I mean.

By the way, the other day I saw on Deutsche Welle that people from many countries also like to visit the neighborhood where Leonel Messi grew up.  :P

https://rosario.tur.ar/circuitos/por-tu-cuenta/circuito-messi

https://tn.com.ar/turismo/2023/06/11/la-ruta-de-messi-en-rosario-6-lugares-que-homenajean-al-campeon-mundial/

Well yes all the weekends and also in midweek it WAS a normal think to travel when your team plays away, i write WAS because from 10 years ago till now its forbiden for "security reasons" the away supporters in the stadium. Really sad because that was the truly folklore of the football.

Now we only travel for Copa Argentina or for international competitions, also to another countrys.

Talking about Messi and NOB one of the most massive movement of people was in 2004 when NOB became champions, they moved 40.000 persons to Buenos Aires.

One thing to notice its, the mayority of people its from clubs from Buenos Aires also in the inside of the country, so sometimes you dont see so many people traveling because the "locals" took the seats.
For example if River Plays in Tucuman, to Tucuman travel a little piece of fans (barrabravas + people who follow to everyplace) and the rest comes from the Tucuman people who its also fan of River.

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About that tours you mention..... i think its quite overhyped, i dont see so many people doin it, because now its not the most safe place the place where Messi born, and i also spoke because you know i live in Rosario so i know what im talking about.

Yesterday was the match of retirement of Mexi Rodriguez here and Messi comes to play in Newells Stadium, with a lot more players like Batistuta , Ortega, Scaloni,Saviola, etc.
He is still here but now he lives in the outfields of the city in Funes.

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About tourist the most profitable and well know thing, its going to La Bombonera (boca stadium) all the people go to the La Boca neigborhood and also the stadium. Clearly in Buenos Aires.

wow a big surprise in this weekend's games, I confess I didn't expect it.

barracas central 2 - 1 River Plate

this was a game where i believe most people were predicting a very easy win for the river plate, it was even the bookmakers favorite at odds of @1.30 and as it was the top team, number 1 playing against a team that is in position 16 and that had mixed results in its last 4 games, so it was really a game in which the river plate would not have difficulties to win, at least that on paper, the tents center in its last 4 games had 2 draws, one win and one loss, against the river plate that in the last 4 games managed to have 3 wins and 1 loss and the river plate came to this game in a sequence of 3 consecutive wins

In this game, the unbelievable thing is that Barrancas even scored 2 goals first despite having little possession of the ball and made 6 shots, 5 of which were shots on target, while the river plate has a greater possession of the ball, made 13 shots and only 3 shots to the target and only managed to score 1 goal. looking at this data even made me laugh about it all

tucman 1 - 0 union de santa fe

this was a very unpredictable game, both teams came into this game with mixed results with union de santa fe having a small advantage when compared to the results of the last 4 games, they had 2 draws 2 wins, while tucman had 2 defeats and 2 victories, but in the field tucman was lucky to have benefited from a penalty which gave him that victory

velez 1 - 0 arsenal

this was also an unpredictable game, that's because velez came into this game with 4 consecutive defeats, and even being in a much better position than arsena who are in the last place, they didn't inspire any confidence, but surprisingly they managed to win this game, with this ends the sequence of defeats that the team had been having, this is something good to revive the team's morale, we will see if in the next game they will have a good result

Yes for all the people in the world its a strange result, but i said it earlier and i repeat again, dont bet against Barracas Central when they play in home games, for two main factors:

1- They are the club of the president of AFA Chiqui Tapia, and they receive some good tratment from the referees.
2- Their pitch its really dificult because its more little than the regular one , so you have less space to play, and in someteams this can make a big diference in their play.

Anyways Talleres lost their chance to cut the gap with River they draw against Godoy Cruz, so the gap still in 9 points. With 15 to play.

Well guys im losing the track with this hilarious rounds we are having in the league.

ROUND 23.

RIVER PLATE- COLON:

If River wins they put a ton of pressure on Talleres and San Lorenzo to win, so its a very important match. COlon lost the alst game in home 4-0 against racing, River its gonna put again their top players in the starting eleven , so i think its gonna be an easy win for River.

HURACAN - ATLETICO TUCUMAN:

Huracan and Atletico are both fighting in the bottom of the table and for relegation positions , so this game its gonna be very important for both, Huracan have a new coach, so lets see if him can find the path.The new coach its Diego Martinez who was in Tigre until now.

Agreed, because this match River Plate vs Colon will also be held at home River Plate, so River Plate shouldn't have any difficulty to winning Sir. I personally believe they will not lose points, to be stay away from Talleres. Meanwhile, San Lorenzo is currently having a difficult match, in the first half San Lorenzo left behind by one score, but although like that I think they will get an advantage because Racing also have lost one player due to a red card.

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Tigre vs Banfield this match ends with Banfield winning by score 1-2. Tigre shouldn't have lost in the match against Banfield, I personally expected that game to end in a draw results because I bet on that match, but Banfield seem to know what they have to do when they're lead. Damn, look at the stats of that match, Tigre was completely dominate, but why they unlucky?

Sarmiento - Talleres

Talleres comes into this game as the favorite to win the game, with a difference of 9 points with the leader of the league they need to win in this game if they want to be closer to the leader of the league, in the last 5 games they have not been totally good for the Talleres who saw lose points in their last 2, 3 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss was Talleres' performance in the last 5 games, they are playing against Sarmiento who are not doing well either, in the last 5 games Sarmiento had 2 draws , 2 defeats and only one victory, it would be very difficult for Sarmiento to get a victory in this game, so I see that the current result in which Talleres is winning ends with a victory for Talleres


Argentinos Juniors - Instituto AC Cordoba

this is a very unpredictable game, with Argentinos Juniors performing better in the last 5 games in relation to their opponent, in the last 5 games Argentinos Juniors had 2 losses 3 wins, in their last game they had a defeat, while their opponent it has 2 draws, 2 defeats and only 1 victory, but with an important highlight that in its last game it had a victory against an opponent that placed better in the table in relation to Argentinos Juniors, that's why I think that this is a complicated game to predict the result

I kept losing several over 1.5 goals bets here,yesterday two games ended 0-0 and before a couple of days another two games ended 0-0.What is the point of these results,teams defending and not attacking like they should,I have started thinking how come they became World Champions and their league lacks a lot with Riverplate dominating it in a big way.There are 28 teams playing and I thought there would be variance here,with a lot of teams yes defending but also a lot of teams conceding goals and attacking like crazy which is how a league,especially a South American league should be.Never betting here in this league again.

I tried ever to avoid the over/under market on Argentina leagues, because its really irregular nad you need to really know the teams and their coachs to make the correct picks, and also having that information you can lose.

For example the next round maybe we can see a rain of goals.

One tip i can gave its for example, Rosario Central in away games plays really abd and much more defensive way.

barracas central 0 - 0 argentinos juniors

it was a game that I didn't have the intensity to bet on and that's why I didn't bet, looking at these two teams I predicted a more balanced and unpredictable game and that's why I chose not to bet on it, even in other markets like the goals market I didn't see anything either which pleases me, with this result the argentinos juniors is in position number 9 provisionally, because now there will be the game of Colon De Santa Fe against CA Belgrano that in case of CA Belgrano manages to leave this game with victory (CA Belgrano is not being seen as the favorite by the bookmakers) then they would be above the argentinos juniors in the table

Colon de Santa Fe - CA Belgrano

the game will start soon and I will not be able to watch the game and I will not place a bet on this game either, it is a game in which both teams had mixed results in the last 5 games, Belgrano in the last 5 games had 2 wins and 3 losses and the most worrisome is that they arrive at this game with 2 consecutive defeats, on the other hand we have Colon de Santa Fe who are in a very similar situation, in the last 5 games Colon de Santa Fe had only one victory, 2 draws and 2 defeats, being who also comes into this game with a streak of 2 consecutive defeats. so it's a very unpredictable game

hahaha really fun to see the name of Barraca Central translated, yes its correct anyways what it means is that, they have the name of the neighborhood, and in the past in that place were tents.

The game ended 0-0, another one in this round, it was a bless round for all of those who always bet on under goals, but a curse for the one who bets on over goals.

Today if Talleres lose against Union River Plate becomes the champion.

I was writing while I was trading at the same time I was analyzing another game and I couldn't understand why Google wasn't marking the game's calendar correctly while in the casino the game was being played, with that I was inattentive and wrote nonsense, I already corrected it, anyway, I'm glad I didn't bet on that game, betting on Argentine league games is something much more complicated and I don't risk making a multi bet, the feeling I have is that in the Argentine league the teams are all the same, even if in the table i see the top team 10 points ahead yet when the top team plays against any other team i do not take the top team as 100% guaranteed to win


strange that I see that there are still many games left to finish the league, and it's true that I don't see Talleres winning the league either, they just don't have much determination, just see that when River Plate lose points Talleres also lose points, as for the River Plate though are at the top they don't seem to be a consistent team, so for me they are at the top because they are very lucky because the other teams are too weak

We have only 3 rounds left, and the tournament its gonna end, so River Plate its basically champion after Talleres draw against Union, with only one point their secure the title.

About your google issue, i think its maybe because in Argentina sometimes the AFA (footbal asociation) changes the day of the time of some matches really nearby to the date, so maybe google dont update it so fast.

And yes its really hard to bet on argentinian football.

ROUND 25

Round 25 its gonna start in a hour.


HURACAN - TALLERES

Not so much to say, but if today Talleres doesnt win against Huracan River Plate becames the champion of Argentina tournament. I think that can pass, because Huracan its also playing for importan points in the fight for Relegation.

RIVER PLATE - ESTUDIANTES

River can reach this game being champion, so i dont put money on it, be carefull, Estudiantes its a good team, and River can be relaxed or saving players.

Well, yesterday Talleres win his match, so River Plate today play to be the champion against Estudiantes. Its gonna be a very good game to see i think, Estudiantes its also a very good team.

River Plate host the game in his home where they only lose 1 game in all the season and win the remain 10....... with  21 goals in favour and only 5 allowed.

Nice thread!
I'm wondering, what do you think the level of the championship of Argentina is compared to Europe? Is it closer to the tops or something like Portugal, the Netherlands? I can’t say that I watch a lot of games from non-top leagues, but I at least have an idea of their strength.

Ey man, nice to see you here!.

Its dificult to answer, in terms of real level i think now we are in a big crisis and ina historical low, so we are below Portugal or Netherlands, but this its also "fake" because its a very diferent football. Argentinian football its very physical and locked and players when comes back for europe top level strugled a lot to play by this diference.

Now we are behind Brasil for the first time in history (in club terms) this gap started to develop since 2015 and show really in the start of 2020. They have so much money and make class A teams.

Perhaps this is due to the fact that Argentina is in a permanent economic crisis? I don't follow events there much, but I follow a few economists on twitter (who live in Argentina) and from what I understand, things are not going well there, while Brazil is developing at a rapid pace.
And purely by my subjective feelings, I see young bright players from Brazil all the time (who are already in Europe), but I hardly see such from Argentina. If this is a real trend and not my subjective impression, then Argentina is just super lucky to win the World Cup and write itself into history, it will be more difficult in the next generations.

RIVER PLATE ITS THE CHAMPION!!!!

River PLate win his game yesterday and becomes again champion of the Argentinian footbal coached by Demichelis.

I share a pic of the reception of the fans for the game.

https://i.ibb.co/BCV97Rj/Sin-t-tulo.png (https://ibb.co/fxYsK7t)

River Plate its the most champion of the argentinian football.


In short terms, yes its because of that, we cant compete in salaries, so they brought all the players who play well here and not ended up on europe.
About economics its a long history and long discussion but, yes we are not well right now.
And for last, about youngs, in Argentina we allways have that feeling of "its our last golgen generation" but always appear excellent players like Julian Alvarez, Garnacho, etc right now. ANd yes Brazil its clearly going to have more, because they are nearly 300 millions and we are only 45.

Huracan 0 - 1 Talleres

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well, i made a profit in that game, but it's really unfortunate that Talleres didn't manage to win the league, but from the beginning i started following this league i saw Talleres as being a very inconsistent team, and strangely that the other teams were also very inconsistent and that opened up a lot of space for the current champion to win again, and a league in which there is no competitiveness, the other teams seem to be just playing because they have to be in the league, just see that they played 27 games but the team with the most goals only managed to score only 45 goals

this shows that it is a league with few goals, the other teams are all under 40 goals, which is something quite shocking, it looks like my country's league that only has few goals, for example in the brazilian league that are in the game 15, the team with the most goals already has 27 goals and the other teams have 25 goals, but it has more competitiveness, even though there are only 20 teams in the league but it has 38 rounds, but in the Argentine league it has 28 teams but it only has 25 rounds and even with 28 teams there are few goals. finally congratulations to the winner of the league

ROUND 26

Well today we start another round, this round doesnt have so much in play, because we already have a champion, but weel we are gonna have some games for cup entries and relegation fight.

Rosario Central - River Plate, its gonna be the main game, Rosario Central not lose in home this year, and this its the last game in home, its gonna lose thei invictus?

ROUND 27

Round 27 starts today, last round of our tournament, we already have a champion (River Plate) so we are gonna end this tournament only now.

River Plate against Racing its gonna be the cherry on top for this round and for the ending tournament, high level football waiting for their Libertadores cup games.

River Plate dominated the entire season and no one is even close to them. They are playing Racing tonight and im expecting lots of goals. Got a bet in for Over 2.5 goals and with how good both teams are playing i see a lot of goals and open football especially from River Plate.

TODAY WE START THE NEW TOURNAMENT CALLED COPA DE LA LIGA

This tournament its split in two groups of 14 teams each one. The teams plays against each other of the group and the top 4 of each group goes to the final stage.

I hope soon the AFA ended with all this joke tournaments we have and made a normal one with 20 teams.

Really sorry to all for miss the second round of the tournament.

We are gonna start the third round now, with the game between Central Cordoba and Platense.

The game to follow this weekend its Racing - Estudiantes

About some news, Diego Milito resign his charge as manager of Argentinos Jrs, caught all by surprise.

That shows why Argentinos Juniors yesterday in Copa de La Liga was leading comfortably 2-0 against Atletico Tucuman and they were equalized in just 5 minutes,they conceded 2 goals in just 5 minutes,it means most probably they have lost the compass without a real new coach in this game.The odds were good for them at 1.70 I think seeing their recent form which they have been on a really good run compared to how they started out and I think Milito should have not resign,he was doing OK here.They are still in 10th place in Liga Professional which gives them a place in Copa Sudamericana,not that bad for them.

Yes, Argentinos was playing really good under the management of Milito his resign took all of us by surprise.

Yesterday game i dont see what happen, but i think it was more a deconcentration of the players because they allow two goals in 5 minutes.

The team who its in bad shape after the lose on Libertadores cup its River Plate.

Well guys..... how to explain this. I totally forgot this thread because the lack of enthusiasm in it,and i was busy with other things.

The Champion of this Second part of the season is.......... ROSARIO CENTRAL!!!!!!!


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The next week the champion of the first one RIver Plate plays against Rosario Central for the champions cup.

DI MARIA COMING BACK TO ROSARIO CENTRAL IN 2024 more close than ever. (Confirmed in words)