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Title: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: alastantiger on February 28, 2023, 04:20:28 PM
William Shakespear (https://www.sikhphilosophy.net/threads/how-do-animations-of-sikh-gurus-heroes-hurt-religious-sentiments.31668/) said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad (https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/process-addiction/compulsive-gambling/how-to-stop-gambling/), but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: MiliMil on February 28, 2023, 05:46:17 PM
It depends on the person.

If someone doesn't have discipline gambling can totally destroy them.

I have heard horror stories of people losing 5-6 houses and businesses to fund their gambling habit.

I always say if you can't control yourself or you have addictive personality disorder then don't gamble.

It is a vice, just like alcohol and cigarettes and drugs and fast food. Self-control is needed.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: shogun47 on February 28, 2023, 05:50:38 PM
William Shakespear (https://www.sikhphilosophy.net/threads/how-do-animations-of-sikh-gurus-heroes-hurt-religious-sentiments.31668/) said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad (https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/process-addiction/compulsive-gambling/how-to-stop-gambling/), but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

This would be correct if you talk about two people with the exact same pre-conditions and one risks to gamble away all their savings while the other person does not. Judging actions while entirely neglecting individual causal chains in my opinion is short-sighted and ignorant of our human abilities.

While this is not related to gambling (http://While this is not related to gambling), it clearly shows that some people are way harder predisposed to addictions than others. Hence, they will need much more will power to decide against something and sometimes their situation becomes so bad that it is nearly impossible to stop.

The individual's inability to control their emotions is, well, individual. And this is where generalizations become problematic. If someone falls off the cliff because a number of horrible events happened and the person seeks to compensate for that in a state of emotional chaos, we all know that most of us can make quite some stupid decisions.

Also, the starting point is important as well. If my savings are 500 USD and I try to double them up, it might be a very stupid decision but not the end of life. If I go to the bank and take a mortgage on my house just to then go nuts in a casino and lose it all, that is probably a very stupid active decision.

Compulsive gambling is a bit under the radar although it is an acknowledged addiction. Drug examples are easier to comprehend in regards to the complexities involved. In how far is a 13 year old to blame for a potential addiction to dope or even harder stuff when he grew up with drug addicted parents? Our brains develop in certain ways depending on our exposure to certain things.

It is an interesting discussion anyway, but one that is most likely going to turn into a never ending story.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: ChiBitCTy on February 28, 2023, 05:52:04 PM
I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of "gambling is neither good nor bad".  That is really the way people should look at it.  It's kind of like doing certain drugs, they may not be bad for you if you do them in moderation and don't let them take over and consume your life.  Sure there can be some negative effects, but there's also plenty of positive effects (for certain drugs)..so it's really all about ones mentality of mental strength.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Adbitco on February 28, 2023, 06:04:25 PM
Well there's nothing much to deliberate about because in every gambling site there are some rules that says is +18 and I believe anyone above that can control their emotions and also managed their funds carefully.
If it happens that gambler couldn't managed their funds or control the risk of losing their money doesn't mean others would also loose like them. I have seen someone who became successful with gambling and yet his living wealthily fine, I mean living luxuriously.
So those who lose their entire savings to gambling are just trying to make fortune out of gambling without knowing it's a game of joy and mostly gambling to ease stress and pains, attaching much value to it will as well makes them to lose valuables.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: 348Judah on February 28, 2023, 06:09:33 PM
Gambling is good and i can tell you this because millions of gamblers were doing it and getting being fulfilled with loads of fun and pleasurable moment in gambling, we choose what we want to experience with gambling, it's bit what we do to get frustrated, those that have the bad side of gambling probably have their own weakness that contributed to the failure they experienced with gambling, if you know your moderacy then you will enjoy gambling to the fullest.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: mindrust on February 28, 2023, 06:10:06 PM
Gambling is a bad habit especially if you are overdoing it. That is a known fact. We don’t need to have a debate over this. However, by playing responsibly you can minimize the bad effects of gambling in your life. Playing responsibly means that you shouldn’t lose your control. You can bet a hundred times in one day and still be a responsible gambler as long as you don’t wager too much.

If gambling makes you forget about the bad stuff you have in your life then you might even consider it a good thing. But like I said, you should play responsibly otherwise gambling will be just another problem for you to fix.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Frankolala on February 28, 2023, 06:10:17 PM
You are right excess of everything is bad and it is a sin. When you are a discipline gambler, you will not be carried away with your gambling activities because you can control it. A discipline gambler sees gambling as fun and entertains himself with it.

Gambling destroys those people who see gambling as a means of earning a living for themselves,which is very wrong. Such people will keep on chasing their loss by allowing themselves to be controlled by their emotions. Destruction and frustration becomes the order of the day to them,due to greed and lack of self control.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: cabron on February 28, 2023, 06:21:08 PM

Once a person has money to gamble, they can always do what they wanted to do even if they see it as bad.

The majority thinks gambling is a vice though, you can never argue with that since society indeed sees it that way and one has to conform with the society to which they belong. You can however negotiate that gambling is one cure for boredom and while you're old enough and have money, you can gamble. The rest of it will have to be learned like controlling the addiction.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Bananington on February 28, 2023, 06:35:32 PM
The act of Gambling in itself is neutral.
Gambling is good when you can keep it under control, but bad when it is now out of control and now controls you. Not all activities that are out of control have negative effects, but gambling does, and its effect can have huge financial consequences, mental consequences, social consequences and can even lead to suicidal thoughts. You tell someone gambling is bad because people have seen how dangerous it can be and how it has destroyed lives and relationships, so you are informed first that it is bad before you choose to start gambling because many people cannot put the habit of gambling under control and you may be one.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: livingfree on February 28, 2023, 06:43:44 PM
It all sums up with how we see gambling. Those people that really have terrible experience will look for someone or something to blame for with their misfortune. Especially, if they don't want to accept their losses and it's hard to imagine thinking that it would be a great move for them to just accept that they've loss but they won't.

Also, it's all about our free will. Nobody forced us to gamble so if there's anyone to blame for, it should be ourselves and our decisions. It's true that it's neither bad or good but depends on the perception who sees it and the feedback that he'll give to it.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: stomachgrowls on February 28, 2023, 06:48:38 PM
Gambling isnt good nor even bad, it is really just on how people do able to approach and make their actions because if we do think up the real way on which it is really that gambling is really for fun and something that

do really make someone do enjoy his vacant time but of course it would really be the expense of someones money for the entertainment he do seek.Things goes bad on the time that he do make out actions and decisions which would causes for his/here life to mess up because of the bad decisions that he's making.

If you do find yourself that spending too much money and really that impulsive into your decisions or simply your behavior is really starting up to change then this is where wrong things do happen.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: iv4n on February 28, 2023, 07:16:20 PM
This is pure philosophy! Gambling is neither good nor bad in itself. It's the same with fire, fire is neither good nor bad (for example, but you can find any other, I am sure there are plenty) it can provide a lot, but if you're not careful, you can get burned a lot... Basically, you need to know what you are doing, and if you are not aware of your actions, you will get into a problem. That is a bottom line I guess, always do some research before you jump into something, that can save you from many "unpleasant situations".

But we are all human in the end, with feelings and all that stuff. We like to try different things and take risks without much thinking, especially at some younger ages. I guess we live to learn, and learning comes from trying things... and some things are incredibly tempting... it's hard to resist, but we need to find a way to control our wishes and actions. Each of us is in the same battle, you can find many quotations about "the worst enemy you can meet will always be yourself".  We are all trying to find some balance and control in life, somehow...


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: kamvreto on February 28, 2023, 07:35:05 PM
Blaming gambling for losing a lot of money and savings is a stupid thing to do alone. No one can be blamed, gambling or not is a choice not a compulsion. Maybe the gambler who always loses is just after an instant win by risking all his money. Management in gambling is even necessary, not just in trading. Gambling requires financial management so that there will be an allocation that is provided for gambling and some others to back up when the first gambling fails. besides that, mental health when gambling is very necessary. people sometimes are not ready for defeat when gambling, so many bad things will happen. Gambling, which only has a bad impact, depends on how you can do gambling, not only to seek continuous wins so that they are too addicted.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: coolcoinz on February 28, 2023, 07:53:27 PM
It all sums up with how we see gambling. Those people that really have terrible experience will look for someone or something to blame for with their misfortune. Especially, if they don't want to accept their losses and it's hard to imagine thinking that it would be a great move for them to just accept that they've loss but they won't.

Also, it's all about our free will. Nobody forced us to gamble so if there's anyone to blame for, it should be ourselves and our decisions. It's true that it's neither bad or good but depends on the perception who sees it and the feedback that he'll give to it.

The way we see things doesn't change the nature of these things.
A person can be seen a s good or bad depending on what views those judging said person have, but it doesn't make that person good or bad.
If you shoot a deer, hunters will say you're a good man, and animal rights activists will say you're bad, but it doesn't make you good or bad.
A gambler who steals to feed his habit is bad beyond doubt, but gambling itself isn't bad.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Wakate on February 28, 2023, 08:13:00 PM
Gambling is good and i can tell you this because millions of gamblers were doing it and getting being fulfilled with loads of fun and pleasurable moment in gambling, we choose what we want to experience with gambling, it's bit what we do to get frustrated, those that have the bad side of gambling probably have their own weakness that contributed to the failure they experienced with gambling, if you know your moderacy then you will enjoy gambling to the fullest.
if you say gambling is good, there are people who do not play bets and would want to argue with you that nothing good comes from gambling. Yes I have met such kind of people that almost manipulated my brain to stop gambling but at the end I remember how far I have gone and there points and idea should not make me to just leave gambling without a reason.

Nothing and nothing is bad. If we do things in the wrong way then we will be seen as a bad person not what we are doing that tagged us bad but the way we do it. Gambling is good if we do or play it in the right manner.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: rahmad2nd on February 28, 2023, 08:14:34 PM
As I often say in my posts, how does one view gambling itself and how do we define it. as William Shakespeare said, "nothing is neither good nor bad". I can really understand what he's talking about. but because the theme of our discussion is gambling, so we discuss it from a gambling perspective.

For me, it's all about how we perceive gambling itself and how we define it. all of that returns to each individual, every gambler has a different perspective on gambling. what William Shakespeare said, we can apply to our lives and not just to gambling.

Gambling, is part of the fun entertainment in the modern era like today. we are offered something that is entertaining with all the conveniences thanks to sophisticated technology. but the negative impact of gambling, can affect a person's life to be problematic. therefore, we must react wisely. someone who actively gambles like me, will really need a big responsibility, as well as an understanding of gambling itself and how we deal with it. something fun, can have a negative impact if we do not have good self-control. therefore too, one must understand deeply to have self-control, good understanding. also, responsibility. although sometimes, in practice it is difficult.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Lida93 on February 28, 2023, 08:25:08 PM
Moderation is a key factor to self discipline in every activity we as humans engages in, and the lack of the consciousness of it leads to indiscipline which in gambling it leads to irresponsible gambling among gamblers and they end up blaming gambling as being bad activity to engage in. Whereas it's the gambler act of moderation  or lack of it towards gambling that either makes it look good or bad. The endpoint is that gambling is not for boys but for men and real men knows when to stop, takes responsibility and moves on even on abad day as if nothing happened.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: blockman on February 28, 2023, 08:26:07 PM
I don't know if Shakespeare is a gambler but what he said is really applicable to us, gamblers. The one who thinks it's bad really sees the bad in it and that can be seen in those irresponsible gamblers that are selling all they've got because they've lost a lot and then want to recover them. But because of having a lack of funds, they do crazy things such as selling all their stuff, even the important ones so that they can still keep on track. Now then the person who saw that from an actual gambler will think that gambling is bad because of how the gambler interacted with his losses and still want to continue. But, that's it, he's right that thinking of it as bad or good really will show how it is being said based on other's opinions.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: ryzaadit on February 28, 2023, 08:27:55 PM
I said bad.

Even my self as the gambler, I always said is bad and never-ever want to ask or try to invited my friend from non-gambling user to gambler. I mean look at the cost, the problem is not only the person who are gambling.

But also, other people who are can get the effect.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: swogerino on February 28, 2023, 08:40:40 PM
It is bad because in human nature we have difficulty to control our emotions when something bad is happening like losing in a game play session and we want to revert it back,the loss,so the majority of us keep playing and chasing the lost amount of money with the hope that they will get it back.It is exactly this greediness trap that is hidden deep inside our nature that the majority of people say gambling is bad and it actually is for the majority who cannot control their behavior and emotions.It can be beneficial only to those who play an x amount of money a week and call it a day whatever the outcome,either they win or either they lose.

So based on this it is 85% bad and 15% good.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: milewilda on February 28, 2023, 08:41:17 PM
I said bad.

Even my self as the gambler, I always said is bad and never-ever want to ask or try to invited my friend from non-gambling user to gambler. I mean look at the cost, the problem is not only the person who are gambling.

But also, other people who are can get the effect.
Specially when you are a family man on which if you do find yourself on getting deal with gambling then you should really know on how to manage your finances or else you would be ending up on spending your life savings which its never been worth on doing so.Its true that it is really that harmful for someone if ever you are a type of person whose that impulsive which gambling is never been a good thing for you to deal with.
I agree for most points on here that gambling isnt bad but rather it is on the act of someone on how he do deal up with this activity.If you are already that compromising
your life savings or affecting financial then this is where it could be called such.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: goaldigger on February 28, 2023, 08:44:33 PM
Its part of human nature where you tend to become more greedy sometimes and practice the bad habit, regardless of your reason gambling can still be addicting. Its good or bad depends on how you see it, if you are going to gamble responsibly then I believe it can really give you joy but if you are too focus with the money, you might probably suffer from any stress later on because gambling is not a guaranteed way of making money, that’s more stressful than you think.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: btc_angela on February 28, 2023, 08:53:33 PM
It's bad if you don't know how to control yourself and become addicted to gambling and then ruining your life. And yes we have heard countless stories, and maybe some of us here have experience it. But if you overcome it, or at least have the common sense to have self-control (which I know is very hard to do in the first place), perhaps you can just enjoy it. Good for those one time winners, specially in games like lottery because it's going to be a life changer. You win millions that can change your life forever for the good.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 28, 2023, 08:59:19 PM
If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?
You making good sense though, mostly all we do in life have their pros and cons, and our mindset towards this things is what determines whether this things are good or bad to us.
Gambling, like you said is neither nor bad, but then, many gamblers allow themselves to get addicted so bad that some times, gambling becomes a threat to their life, and this type of persons are the ones that give gambling a really bad name, but all being the same, it is simply what it is, those who wanna gamble will still gamble, not minding the kind of experience some other gambler have with gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Marykeller on February 28, 2023, 09:04:49 PM
One's attitude toward gambling might be positive or negative. No matter if a person is a good or lousy gambler, how they play the game reveals a lot about them. However, there are many that use gambling to relieve boredom, for entertainment, to make more money, or to augment their current finances.

Gambling is presumably only harmful when it is practiced excessively and without self-control, when it involves investing all of your savings, or when you depend on it to survive without considering other parts of your life.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: acroman08 on February 28, 2023, 09:20:11 PM
This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time.
I definitely agree, but the sad thing is, a lot of people lack responsibility and accountability, that is why they blame gambling, as it is easier to blame something than to admit that they are the ones who messed up. that being said, seeing the effect it can have on someone, I am not surprised that people would rather paint gambling in a bad light than to solely blame the person.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Lanatsa on February 28, 2023, 09:20:50 PM
Its part of human nature where you tend to become more greedy sometimes and practice the bad habit, regardless of your reason gambling can still be addicting. Its good or bad depends on how you see it, if you are going to gamble responsibly then I believe it can really give you joy but if you are too focus with the money, you might probably suffer from any stress later on because gambling is not a guaranteed way of making money, that’s more stressful than you think.
When greed do kicks in then this is where things becomes a problem because we know on what are the things that would be mainly be affected when you are on that greedy mode.You would really be losing up

your control when it comes on spending up your money which would causes a disaster if ever you are on greedy situation.This is why you should really be that mindful when it comes into your
actions towards it because gambling becomes bad if you do make yourself that addicted.

Gambling isnt bad as long you are responsible towards your actions and really that mindful about your funds and dont spend much then i dont see anything wrong.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Yatsan on February 28, 2023, 09:26:49 PM
Gambling would be okay if it will just be a leisure or be done to kill time without worrying of your losses especially if you are only betting 'pennies'. It will only be bad if greed will be present which is a factor for such activity to be addictive enough and to consume a player. I agree with others have mentioned; intention would matter. The stronger your drive to gamble, the bigger the downside of the outcome to happen which also makes this activity bad on the view point of the majority. If you won't be dependent with winning to ease your mood, then it would be still fine. Problem is players who are assuming or exoecting to be rich in an easier way simply because there are actually people who did so. This impression for sure have eaten many players' wallet in an instant.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Fortify on February 28, 2023, 09:54:36 PM
William Shakespear (https://www.sikhphilosophy.net/threads/how-do-animations-of-sikh-gurus-heroes-hurt-religious-sentiments.31668/) said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad (https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/process-addiction/compulsive-gambling/how-to-stop-gambling/), but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

As long as you are working within the confines of the law, then everything is reasonable in moderation. Whether that is drinking, gambling or any other things that people might call a vice. Even drinking too many fizzy drinks or eating fast food too often will have negative consequences, it's all about proportion. So you're right, there are plenty of people out there who can gamble a little bit on occasion and walk away from it, never to give it a second thought on the next day. It's people who do it repeatedly, to the point where they form an addictive habit, who are the ones at risk of turning a piece of fun into a debilitating activity that can drain your energy along with your bank balance.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Crypto Library on February 28, 2023, 10:20:21 PM
Gambling is frowned upon by most people and the country's government. specially in my country seeing it from the eyes of crime, a few days ago one of the best youtuber of our country was arrested for promoting gambling website on his YouTube channel. But still I don't see it as that bad, but it is also true that excessive gambling addiction can destroy your life and your family. I have seen many people become destitute due to excessive gambling. However, if you gamble within your efford for entertainment purposes, it is not treated as a crime. So in response to your title, I would like to say that gambling is not a bad thing as long as you don't get too addicted take it just as a entertainment purpose for your self like others sources of entertainment.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Freeveto on February 28, 2023, 10:43:15 PM
Gambling is bad and there is no justification to it, before you win in gambling, you must have loosed even more than you won, a gambler can continue to try to see if he can recover from his loses and ended up losing even more.
The worst of it is it’s addiction is so high that it takes God’s intervention for you to abstain from it. A gambler can lose all he has acquired in years with few hours.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Wexnident on February 28, 2023, 10:46:54 PM
I agree. I'd say the only reason gambling was even considered as a vice is because of how majority of the portrayed image of gambling to the public is addictiveness due to greed, which leads to their own destruction. Sadly enough, people who do know what they're doing aren't really being portrayed enough to the public so as to reveal what gambling can actually be.

It's not that it's bad or anything that people gamble to win money, but going past a certain limit, just like in any other activity can bring about negative consequences. It's more apparent in gambling since it directly involves money.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Zilon on February 28, 2023, 10:58:39 PM
Gambling can be both good and bad depending on the individual. Remember not everyone is mature has regard how they go about their gambling activities. The level of maturity for an individual determine if it is good for the individual or not this is my own ground of judging if it is good or bad for such individual. The point is just like gambling is problematic to some persons it is also a good fun tool for others and a good ground for profit for a few so therefore gambling is what one makes of it.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Oilacris on February 28, 2023, 10:59:05 PM
I agree. I'd say the only reason gambling was even considered as a vice is because of how majority of the portrayed image of gambling to the public is addictiveness due to greed, which leads to their own destruction. Sadly enough, people who do know what they're doing aren't really being portrayed enough to the public so as to reveal what gambling can actually be.

It's not that it's bad or anything that people gamble to win money, but going past a certain limit, just like in any other activity can bring about negative consequences. It's more apparent in gambling since it directly involves money.
There are even religions that do see gambling is a bad thing or there are communities or people who do always have bad impressions and looks towards gambling.They do always look
into its negative side which is on making someone getting addicted and ending up their lives miserable.This is why they do really have this kind of approach and there's
no way that we could blame them in regarding with their perspective to it but it isnt really just right that they should really be that conclusive
just because they had seen just one side and not the other.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Mr.suevie on February 28, 2023, 11:01:26 PM
I think this view of people seeing gambling as something that is really bad or good  is based on the actual person entirely. I mean if you gambler and tends to gamble frequently with many losses, its just simply obvious that he /she is going to be seeing gamble as a really bad activity but  that would be a different view entirely for people that have good record when gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: qwertyup23 on February 28, 2023, 11:07:33 PM
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This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

I do agree with your statement- it is on the nature of the consequences of the action of a person which makes anything bad. The problem with gambling on why it is associated as "evil" is due to its potentially addicting nature, where anyone can fall and succumb to it. You can say that a person, with the right discipline, can at least control his expenditures in gambling. But this does not apply to others where they can easily fall into this addicting activity.

At the end of the day, we are responsible for our respective actions. We also have the power to determine which actions we would do. In every little things, we decide whether we should do it or not.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Hispo on February 28, 2023, 11:20:58 PM
I completely agree on your point of view on gambling, actually, this is something I was taught by my parents when I was younger, not only about gambling but rather about any kind of activity like drinking, parties, video games, etc.

It reminds me those people who blame anti-social behavior on Video games or alcohol, all of them are neutral, what it is not neutral is how we react and cope to those things we do.

One could even ask to some of those people if they would blame a house being burnt down on either the fire or the pyromaniac.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: danherbias07 on February 28, 2023, 11:32:43 PM
I do agree. It's all about mental strength.
That is why it's difficult for me to understand why someone could become a gambling addict in a way that cannot be stopped anymore.
I have been a smoker and I found a way to stop it. Also, there was a time I could not resist drinking alcohol for a day and now I drink occasionally.
It will always be on how we take things from our own perspective. You can stop anything as long as you have the "will".
What I don't really like is those who cry from their own mistakes. Crying all over social media because they put all their money in one bet and lose it.
You make a mistake, you own it, and you can share the experience but not to the point where you are looking for someone to save you or give the money back.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: aioc on February 28, 2023, 11:50:13 PM
If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

Well, gambling for many is good when they are winning and bad when they are losing, and more so when they are chasing their losses, its your outlook and mindset that will make gambling bad or good, online casinos promote their casinos as entertainment hubs, and there is a price to pay to get the excitement and the entertainment that you want, some people are paying more than they can afford to lose and regret and try to win it back and that's bad gambling.



Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Mahanton on February 28, 2023, 11:54:53 PM
If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

Well, gambling for many is good when they are winning and bad when they are losing, and more so when they are chasing their losses, its your outlook and mindset that will make gambling bad or good, online casinos promote their casinos as entertainment hubs, and there is a price to pay to get the excitement and the entertainment that you want, some people are paying more than they can afford to lose and regret and try to win it back and that's bad gambling.


Thats how it works and thats how they do behave on which it would really be just that common if they would really be able to face up losing streaks then they would be thinking that it was bad and never been fair.
On the time that they would be making profits or making money then this is where they do call it to be good and decide to continue to play because they've seen those probabilities.
In overall its not really that bad since is a thing that gives leisure and entertainment, it is really just that people do falls down into believing that they could make themselves
rich and this is where actions been done are already getting worst or not really right at all.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: n0ne on March 01, 2023, 12:44:58 AM
It isn't true. Very few users make such statements that gambling is bad. Most of the stories were the real incident sharing. Those stories doesn't mean gambling is wrong. Those were shared with a mind to make others realise the possible chances of gambling. Maybe someone can get themselves into discipline after reading the real life experiences shared by the gamblers.

With gambling self control is a must. As said, there are people who just gamble loss and complain it. Those are the gamblers who are into it for the very first time or they're experiencing loss for the first time.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: lienfaye on March 01, 2023, 12:50:53 AM
The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time.
I agree with this statement. It's because many gamblers unable to control themselves when playing, the effect of gambling in their lives are not good.

That's why many people are thinking gambling is a bad influence and can ruin your life if you engage yourself in this activity. But the truth is, the action of every individual when they gamble is the one to blame on why they end up in that situation (either good or bad). So it's not gambling, it's in the gambler's hand on how they want gambling affect their lives.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: btc78 on March 01, 2023, 01:06:02 AM
maybe you are correct about it is our action the defies our faith in gambling but the gambling itself being created is already a place where desire and greed are built , what i wanna believe is the creation of this are truly bound for those bad things to happen and only the small part for the good thing.

Yeah we cannot blame gambling but the existing of it for me is what to be blamed , if gambling does not exist we will never face such problem and that is what i look in that matter, though many will disagree ? but for me it is what reality tells.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: alegotardo on March 01, 2023, 01:19:05 AM
William Shakespear (https://www.sikhphilosophy.net/threads/how-do-animations-of-sikh-gurus-heroes-hurt-religious-sentiments.31668/) said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad (https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/process-addiction/compulsive-gambling/how-to-stop-gambling/), but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.


Gambling has existed since the dawn of civilizations. The term chance is used as a synonym for random, that is, an event that can be partially or totally dictated by chance. By definition, gambling involves betting, which means investing an asset or financial value in predicting a future event, for which the outcome does not depend on the actions of the bettor.

The players' experience and skill have their roles limited by chance, which always participates in this type in variable proportions, from partial in cards, for example, to absolute as in slot machines. This makes gambling exciting and alienating, but really... it is not possible to blame gambling for the losses or addictions that players acquire.

Unfortunately, people who suffer from Gambling Disorder claim that the losses go beyond the financial area, interfering in their personal life (failing to carry out other activities), professional (productivity tends to drop) and family life (making the "foundations " of the family are shaken).


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: rodskee on March 01, 2023, 01:39:28 AM
The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time.
I agree with this statement. It's because many gamblers unable to control themselves when playing, the effect of gambling in their lives are not good.
but maybe they have no complete idea about what can happen before entering gambling that is why they end up being a loser instead of earning from gambling?
we cannot tell actually because we all have different experience and starting in gambling world, some of us got interested on their own while others being lured inside the gaming.
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That's why many people are thinking gambling is a bad influence and can ruin your life if you engage yourself in this activity. But the truth is, the action of every individual when they gamble is the one to blame on why they end up in that situation (either good or bad). So it's not gambling, it's in the gambler's hand on how they want gambling affect their lives.
like what mentioned , it is not what everyone experienced , because it depend on how you understand gambling before starting and what you become in the end.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: coinerer on March 01, 2023, 01:39:45 AM
Gambling is a bad habit if one plays it regularly and becomes completely addicted to it. But when one plays just for fun and doesn't care about profit/loss, it is not a bad habit yet then. Gambling is essentially forbidden for Muslims.  But it is now considered by almost everyone as a great place of entertainment.  And more or less most people gamble. But a person who gambles too much goes to a party and falls into a deadly addiction and then it becomes a bad habit for him. And after that the person cannot quit gambling very easily. And at one point gambling took a huge toll on him


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Fundamentals Of on March 01, 2023, 01:53:28 AM
But gambling is a vice, isn't it? Although it is not fair to consider gambling as bad, it is also not fair to consider gambling as good. In fact, if we closely look at gambling, it tilts towards the bad a little. This is just my personal opinion. And it's basically because in gambling, you will risk money, but you don't have to. It isn't something that is totally neutral. Gambling is avoidable. Money that is spent in gambling could definitely be used for something else more meaningful.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Die_empty on March 01, 2023, 02:14:08 AM
William Shakespear (https://www.sikhphilosophy.net/threads/how-do-animations-of-sikh-gurus-heroes-hurt-religious-sentiments.31668/) said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad (https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/process-addiction/compulsive-gambling/how-to-stop-gambling/), but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?
I might not be qualified to dispute the assertion of an erudite scholar like Williams Shakespeare but I want to clarify that some things are totally bad. You cannot steal from somebody and claim that it is not bad. But I also accept his position that our actions and inactions determine the rightness or wrongness of our positions.

Gambling is not bad especially when it is not prohibited by your country or religious beliefs. Gambling moderately makes it acceptable but a careless gambler tarnishes the image of the act of gambling. This also applies to alcohol and weed use. If you can't control yourself, don't come close to them.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: ralle14 on March 01, 2023, 03:20:53 AM
I also have to agree with the others that said it's bad because there's already enough information out there but people still fall for it.

I don't mind the others that find it good but for me when looking at the overall picture it's not enough to outweigh the bad effects of gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: libert19 on March 01, 2023, 03:45:39 AM
That's one good thread, however I can't completely agree with it. It could be fun activity but relaxing? No or may be your definition of relaxation is different from mine.

If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Oasisman on March 01, 2023, 03:51:46 AM
William Shakespear (https://www.sikhphilosophy.net/threads/how-do-animations-of-sikh-gurus-heroes-hurt-religious-sentiments.31668/) said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad (https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/process-addiction/compulsive-gambling/how-to-stop-gambling/), but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

In contrary, there is always things we all can agree about what's being good and what's being bad and everyone knew it. But, I can't agree more that in gambling aspect, there is nothing either good or bad about it, we can only come up with conclusion to an individual who's engage into gambling. It could either be bad or good at the end of the day.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on March 01, 2023, 04:40:04 AM
I have heard horror stories of people losing 5-6 houses and businesses to fund their gambling habit.

I always say if you can't control yourself or you have addictive personality disorder then don't gamble.

It is a vice, just like alcohol and cigarettes and drugs and fast food. Self-control is needed.

People losing 5 or 6 houses is the exception, not something that is widespread. And they had all those houses to begin with, which means they were rich, people usually have a house half paid for. It is normal to lose more than expected at a much lower level. On the rest of what you say, I agree, and also with the general statement of the thread. It is neither good nor bad, just like a knife. You can use it to entertain yourself like most people do and walk away with some extra cash from time to time.

The problem is when people put too much hope in something where the odds are against them.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Pierre 2 on March 01, 2023, 04:46:49 AM
Shakespeare truly had great approach to issues humans experience in life. That's probably why he is one of the greatest playwrights and writers in history.
Well pretty much explained nicely by OP. Gambling as lifestyle can't be harmful when its done with discipline. If you set up your limits and goals, and can leave table/device at the moment you hit limit/goal then it will never damage you. Its always up to you. Most people don't consider same so waste money and time and they become "bad examples". But people are not same. You can be better one with discipline.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Strongkored on March 01, 2023, 05:00:18 AM
Who else thinks so too?
Self control plays an important role for a gambler to have the right thoughts about gambling, with good self control the gambler will be able to play responsibly the money he uses for gambling is indeed the money that has been allocated for gambling and not using money for important things so when he loses he will never have the thought that gambling is a bad thing but it will be different from people who do not have self-control defeat will always damage his mind as well as when he wins because he does not have the right way of thinking about gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: piebeyb on March 01, 2023, 05:03:09 AM
Everything returns to the gambler because we cannot control it, sometimes everyone has emotions and thoughts that are different from gambling, therefore before playing gambling everyone must know that there is a risk when you experience defeat you will also lose a lot of money if you cannot control yourself in playing jud.

I also often read people's stories about their big defeats and that's very unfortunate but when he thought at the beginning before he spent his money of course he already knew the risks of playing gambling, whether it's not good or bad gambling everything comes back to the gambler himself. after all we are all here can only give advice and can not control them.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: EarnOnVictor on March 01, 2023, 05:12:29 AM
maybe you are correct about it is our action the defies our faith in gambling but the gambling itself being created is already a place where desire and greed are built , what i wanna believe is the creation of this are truly bound for those bad things to happen and only the small part for the good thing.

Yeah we cannot blame gambling but the existing of it for me is what to be blamed , if gambling does not exist we will never face such problem and that is what i look in that matter, though many will disagree ? but for me it is what reality tells.
Gambling is not bad to me, but I will not support the view that our action defiles our faith if gambling is involved. The two core religions in the world don't support it, and I don't see a justification for that because they must have carefully weighed the good and bad sides of it before concluding on that.

This means, I leave faith out of it when I gamble because I don't want anything to deprive me of my happiness, especially when I do it responsibly.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: BobK71 on March 01, 2023, 05:13:38 AM
Since gambling cannot be managed by itself. So it is controlled by one person. Basically that person is liable for profit and loss from it. The better a person can manage gambling by controlling it, the more likely he is to win. Again his random uncontrolled gambling behavior could be the main reason for his downfall. According to me a gambler should understand about gambling. Gambling consists of luck and risk. So a gambler can reach the desired level at any time if he can manage responsible gambling without expecting too much from here. Gambling can be a platform for recreation if a gambler gambles without considering his greediness.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Davidvictorson on March 01, 2023, 05:27:05 AM
A person who lives in an environment where gambling has ruined the life of a close friend will definitely come to the conclusion that gambling is bad. On the other hand, a person who lives with an individual who gambles responsibly and that has never had a course to pour all of their money into gambling will conclude that there is nothing wrong with gambling. The separator in the two instances is "self-discipline," and we know it. It is like saying politics is a dirty game when, in fact, we know that politics in itself is neutral. It is the people's actions and inactions that have caused most people to label it as a dirty game, which it is not. I conclude by saying, "Please gamble responsibly."


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Plaguedeath on March 01, 2023, 05:43:27 AM
Muslim say gambling is bad because it's haram and forbidden in Al'Quran.

Some people are saying gambling is bad because they live in the countries where gambling is illegal.

And majority of people are saying gambling is bad because they gamble only want to make money, they don't feel fun during gambling.

So people who're saying gambling is bad either they're a Muslim, live in banned countries or only looking to make money.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: gabbie2010 on March 01, 2023, 05:44:18 AM
This is bound to happen because some individuals overdo things out of proportion especially gambling after getting rekted they put the blame of their losses on gambling ignoring the fact that it was self inflicted because of lack of self discipline, moderation is very important in our daily activities likewise in gambling and I believe there are many successful gamblers who gamble according to it rules part of which is to gamble with the amount of money you can afford to lose, take a leave after  daily winnings or losing the total funds allocated daily instead of chasing losses or greediness to win more money.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: |MINER| on March 01, 2023, 05:50:27 AM
Gambling is a bad habit if one plays it regularly and becomes completely addicted to it. But when one plays just for fun and doesn't care about profit/loss, it is not a bad habit yet then. Gambling is essentially forbidden for Muslims.  But it is now considered by almost everyone as a great place of entertainment.  And more or less most people gamble. But a person who gambles too much goes to a party and falls into a deadly addiction and then it becomes a bad habit for him. And after that the person cannot quit gambling very easily. And at one point gambling took a huge toll on him
It's that gambling is a Habit when it becomes an addiction to a guy. But I think regular gambling can be easily play by making a monthly strategy or for a certain time I don't  find any bad thing on this. Just take it as your entertainment purpose and do not  make it your addiction. And also always keep in mind there will be high risk of loosing your fund so Investment as much as you can afford to loose.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Woodie on March 01, 2023, 05:52:25 AM
Honestly it all depends on who you are going to be asking, if you ask a winner who has gone from wagering a $100 bill to getting a million out of gambling there is no way such a person would ever say gambling is bad.. But if you ask someone that blew huge sums of money to a point of amassing debt, relationships breaking up and losing valuable properties as a result of trying to get back to winning ways then gambling will always be labeled bad.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence.
Greed gets the best of us and this is why the house will always win.

The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?
Totally agree, winners know when to quit and it's sad people want to keep going even when you have made positive retains on your account only to give it back and probably get into the negative.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: coinerer on March 01, 2023, 06:18:27 AM
Gambling is a bad habit if one plays it regularly and becomes completely addicted to it. But when one plays just for fun and doesn't care about profit/loss, it is not a bad habit yet then. Gambling is essentially forbidden for Muslims.  But it is now considered by almost everyone as a great place of entertainment.  And more or less most people gamble. But a person who gambles too much goes to a party and falls into a deadly addiction and then it becomes a bad habit for him. And after that the person cannot quit gambling very easily. And at one point gambling took a huge toll on him
It's that gambling is a Habit when it becomes an addiction to a guy. But I think regular gambling can be easily play by making a monthly strategy or for a certain time I don't  find any bad thing on this. Just take it as your entertainment purpose and do not  make it your addiction. And also always keep in mind there will be high risk of loosing your fund so Investment as much as you can afford to loose.
When someone gambles regularly, a deep addiction develops. So it is very difficult for a regular gambler to maintain a limit. And a person who does not stay within a limitation will not be able to adopt any of his weekly or monthly strategies. So if one wants to adopt monthly strategy then he must first make a monthly limit. Then he has to start using his strategy. Then maybe he will be able to successfully  use his strategy


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: davis196 on March 01, 2023, 07:31:06 AM
"Every remedy can be a poison and every poison can be a remedy. What matters is the quantity."
I'm not saying that moderate gambling is a "remedy". It's just a way to have fun and spend some time and money.
Gambling moderately is OK(I won't say that it's something good), excessive gambling, which leads to addiction is bad.
The same applies to all bad habits. Basically, you are wasting your time and money for the sake of having a dopamine boost in your brain.
There are other more useful things to do in your life to give you dopamine, but we have chosen to play gambling games. ;D
In summary, I think that gambling isn't completely neutral, it stands somewhere between "neutral" and "bad".

 


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 01, 2023, 09:14:16 AM
I thought so too. Gambling is neutral and only we use excessive gambling, which has a negative impact on us, including heavy losses, gambling addiction and endless regrets. But when we treat gambling as it should be and only gamble in moderation, we can still have fun and enjoy our free time.

So if we do not overdo it in gambling, we are still fine and will not be affected by the effects of gambling addiction that arise after playing gambling for so long. But it's not easy because the temptation of gambling can come at any time and we have to be really careful when gambling. Do not use the money we cannot afford because it will only cause losses.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: noorman0 on March 01, 2023, 09:38:46 AM
Gambling is bad depending on how you come and use it for what purpose. Not a few poor people also think that gambling is bad but they still come, because more than that they believe that they are entitled to luck, because of course, as long as it's bringing in money, people will flock.

Humorous words by gamblers around me, "gambling is good only when you win".


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: tjtonmoy on March 01, 2023, 10:26:41 AM
If you are addicted to it, then it's bad for you. Anything that will become your addiction is bad for you. I guess it's someone's own problem, not being able to control yourself. So I have to agree on this that nothing is bad. We just make them bad by our own actions. Proper knowledge and control over ourselves will indeed make it fun.
One thing I want to ask tho. If that's the case, are drugs good too?


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: GigaBit on March 01, 2023, 10:45:22 AM
Gambling is bad depending on how you come and use it for what purpose. Not a few poor people also think that gambling is bad but they still come, because more than that they believe that they are entitled to luck, because of course, as long as it's bringing in money, people will flock.

Humorous words by gamblers around me, "gambling is good only when you win".
If a gambler conducts gambling according to his financial situation and if he does not waste his daily needed money then no one will call gambling bad. Again if one loses control and spends his necessary money on gambling then again it will be bad for him. But both cases will depend on the individual. When one wins he takes gambling with joy and when he loses he takes it badly. But naturally, gambling will be enjoyable with a mixture of winning and losing.

How to drive a vehicle to avoid accidents is the responsibility of the driver of that vehicle. There is nothing wrong with the vehicle, so gambling is one of them in my point of view.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: traderethereum on March 01, 2023, 12:16:21 PM
If you can control yourself while gambling, then gambling is not bad and might entertain you.
Actually this depends on how well you can control emotions, finances and time so that they can avoid something that can have a bad impact on them.
Every experienced gambler must be able to take responsibility for what he does to gamble without taking too many risks.
And if they think gambling is bad for them, they don't need to follow other people who gamble.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Taskford on March 01, 2023, 12:21:03 PM
William Shakespear (https://www.sikhphilosophy.net/threads/how-do-animations-of-sikh-gurus-heroes-hurt-religious-sentiments.31668/) said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad (https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/process-addiction/compulsive-gambling/how-to-stop-gambling/), but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

Only people decides it is bad for them or good since people define this differently.

Some will tell that its good to them because they find this platform as enjoyable them where they can practice there patience or remain focus on what they are doing. Also they achieve what they want and been satisfy that's why they say positive about it.

Also people will only tell bad about it because they experience the worse, they blame gambling while they are the one who takes some risky decisions about what they do on their bets. That's why they end up being in bad shape and lose that's this is one of the reason why they say negative about gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: robelneo on March 01, 2023, 12:41:22 PM
William Shakespear (https://www.sikhphilosophy.net/threads/how-do-animations-of-sikh-gurus-heroes-hurt-religious-sentiments.31668/) said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning.

When Shakespeare said this he does not mean it's about gambling
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Shakespeare uses this quote in order to describe Hamlet’s internal suffering. He is a prisoner twice over, once by the country of Denmark and the concerns he has about the King (and the King’s men (like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern)), and by his own mind. He knows that the current king killed the previous, Hamlet’s father. His knowledge of this tragic death haunts him, as do his intentions to get revenge.

If you're going to apply it to gambling it depends on who is looking, to a government that depends on its taxes and economy then gambling is good because they are the beneficiary of it, but for religious persons or countries where their form of government dwells on the teaching of their religious leaders then gambling is bad
It's not about either good or bad but who is looking.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Renampun on March 01, 2023, 01:48:33 PM
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This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time.

It has been discussed repeatedly that people who say gambling is bad are those who only vent their emotions for a moment due to various factors, such as losing or getting stuck in debt because of gambling, this is why before playing gambling, everyone is expected to have good thoughts and mentality. stable so that every gambling game that occurs is not based on greed to win.

I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

if your goal is to gamble for profit it's not to blame but most gamblers who have that desire only end in losses, enjoy every game in gambling that you do, and stop when you win big or run out of capital, don't continue with borrowing money or selling assets, so you stay safe.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: LogitechMouse on March 01, 2023, 02:07:43 PM
Gambling is bad for the person when they lost money on it. Gambling is bad for the person if they have changed from a good person to a bad person. Gambling is bad for those people who lost their savings because of it. Gambling is bad for those people who made bad decisions while doing it.

Gambling is good for those who enjoyed playing the game and doesn't think about the winnings. Gambling is good for those people who sees gambling as a stress-reliever and not a way to earn more money. Gambling is good for those people who are entertained whenever they are doing it.

I just like the word that you used OP which is "perception". It really is the reason why gambling for others look so bad and for some, it look so good. I think I can connect gambling with Bitcoin. There are some people who sees Bitcoin as a scam because they got scammed by some scammers out there. I mean Bitcoin is just a currency and we can consider it as a neutral thing, same with gambling.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence.
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They blaming gambling because they have made bad decisions.

Well, it's the nature of a person to blame something if there is something wrong happened to them. I'm not saying that all of us are doing it every time, but there is a time on our lives when we blamed something because of our wrongdoings. It's the decisions of these addicted gamblers that made them lose their money, and not gambling itself.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: YOSHIE on March 01, 2023, 02:15:53 PM
This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence.
The problems that occur in gambling are bad or good, if we say bad things to gambling addicts, they will answer nonsense, they don't want to hear about the bad things that happen in the gambling arena, that's the world of gambling has the highest sense of suggestion and hypnosis, compared to other behaviors.

I am quite sure and aware that 90% of the people here who are involved in gambling, consciously know the bad things about gambling, the risks and benefits that occur in gambling, however.
Questions arise:
If so why do they already know gambling can be bad things to lose, but still want to bet.....!

Well, that's selfish humans, lust, all of us want to find shortcuts to get rich quick, even though they know the risk of losing, I judge if that person can control gambling, no, on the contrary it is gambling that controls the person, that is the real person who wins in gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: skarais on March 01, 2023, 02:24:28 PM
I am quite sure and aware that 90% of the people here who are involved in gambling, consciously know the bad things about gambling, the risks and benefits that occur in gambling, however.
Questions arise:
If so why do they already know gambling can be bad things to lose, but still want to bet.....!

Well, that's selfish humans, lust, all of us want to find shortcuts to get rich quick, even though they know the risk of losing, I judge if that person can control gambling, no, on the contrary it is gambling that controls the person, that is the real person who wins in gambling.
Losing in gambling is a consequence that has been agreed upon by gamblers, as well as winning.
The risk is to lose money, but the impact tends to be worse when the gambler is no longer able to control himself and his finances in gambling.

Perhaps the effects of gambling have been discussed many times before and gamblers are basically aware of it, so why do they continue to gamble? Some of the other reasons I can think of are not all gamblers expect to big win, while they also expect fun and entertainment and spend little free time even though they lose so much money.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Mauser on March 01, 2023, 02:30:45 PM
This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

I fully agree with you, gambling is neutral as nobody forces us to visit a casino and place bets with our personal money. Every person can decide for themselves if we wants to take the risk of losing money to get the chance of winning money. Someone who made a lot of money with gambling will say it's good, and someone who lost will say its bad. These are all personal experiences and don't hold true for the general population. All the people who lost money with gambling where hoping first to make a profit with it. And if they had won at the casino they would not publicly say that gambling is wrong. I can understand people who are against casinos and don't like gambling, but playing yourself and then talking bad about casinos after losing is wrong. The winning chances of all the casino games are publicly available.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: rhomelmabini on March 01, 2023, 02:37:23 PM
I agree on that statement, it only matters on what you think and what other thinks of it. Gambling is either good or bad but for casinos to entice people to gamble e.g. (ads, promotions etc.), was that a bad thing or a good one? It may the individuals action but we can't deny the fact that some or most gambling entities are using tactics just to promote their product/s.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: virasisog on March 01, 2023, 02:38:53 PM
People could only describe gambling based on how they see it or the way it affected their lives. Gambling itself isn't bad but abusing it because of irresponsible gambling could ruin a person's life.
Gambling isn't to be blamed but the person who is dealing with it. It could be good for those who see it as a source of entertainment but are still able to handle the risks appropriately. Our perception of gambling will be based on how we handle its risks.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: xSkylarx on March 01, 2023, 02:39:45 PM
It is entirely up to us on us how control. Usually when we say gambling is bad, it's because it can make us lose all our money and leave us broke, but when we get into the root cause of this, it's because of our own decision that we can't control ourselves. Though people really have someone or something to blame on, like if there were no gambling, they couldn't lose their money, but thinking of it, it's their own fault. Though i don't treat gambling as bad or good i just treat it as a form of entertainment.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: bitbollo on March 01, 2023, 03:06:38 PM
if you gamble for fun, gambling is an awesome way for spending time.
if you gamble for "earning money" without understanding what are you doing (and trying to hit the big jackpot...) well yes, this is a serious issues and it's a waste of time too.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Cling18 on March 01, 2023, 03:09:49 PM
if you gamble for fun, gambling is an awesome way for spending time.
if you gamble for "earning money" without understanding what are you doing (and trying to hit the big jackpot...) well yes, this is a serious issues and it's a waste of time too.

Those who are saying that gambling is bad are those who had a bad experience of losing in it which is actually normal and is part of gambling. We can't always put the blame on gambling because we are the ones who are making decisions and choices. If we fail and lose, then that is not gambling's fault. Our mindset has an impact on how we define gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: TheUltraElite on March 01, 2023, 03:11:23 PM
The main point is self-control. Too much of anything is bad and if kept in moderation it can be fun and entertaining too. Just like alcohol, if kept in moderate amounts, although I strongly advocate against it and drugs.

In any such habit forming activity money is being spent to "buy" the fun and once it crosses the limits of fun and becomes a chase one needs to stop but that is the most difficult time to stop, just like pulling out before the peak. ;D

Hence gamblers who are getting addicted and cant keep their minds off gambling need to look back at their change in habits to start controlling them.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: dimonstration on March 01, 2023, 03:13:10 PM
if you gamble for fun, gambling is an awesome way for spending time.
if you gamble for "earning money" without understanding what are you doing (and trying to hit the big jackpot...) well yes, this is a serious issues and it's a waste of time too.

Fair point. But in my case I combine this 2 example of yours to define my self satisfaction in gambling. I’m always playing for fun and part of it is to win profit. I don’t hunt any jackpot or huge win out of my small bet but I’m also not betting just to have fun only and not expecting to win because a bit contradictory on why you gamble.

I play online games when I need to have some entertainment and gambling when I need a bit of profit and that’s what make me happy. But of course I don’t chase lose nor big win.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: RealMalatesta on March 01, 2023, 03:16:15 PM
People losing 5 or 6 houses is the exception, not something that is widespread. And they had all those houses to begin with, which means they were rich, people usually have a house half paid for. It is normal to lose more than expected at a much lower level. On the rest of what you say, I agree, and also with the general statement of the thread. It is neither good nor bad, just like a knife. You can use it to entertain yourself like most people do and walk away with some extra cash from time to time.

The problem is when people put too much hope in something where the odds are against them.
It is exception but it does exists unfortunately. I have a friend whose father is a rich politician, and to be fair I kind of not feel sorry for him too much because it is corruption that got him that much houses, but he lost 11 houses over course of 5-6 years when he went to gambling, and that is why I feel like it is still possible to lose that much. People who can't control themselves while gambling is the bread and butter of this industry.

If everyone was like us who could control themselves, and limit their budget, then it wouldn't really make any sense to run a casino since casinos wouldn't be making too much profit. But when there are these type of people who lose everything, they start to make some serious profit.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: 348Judah on March 01, 2023, 03:19:52 PM
if you gamble for fun, gambling is an awesome way for spending time.
if you gamble for "earning money" without understanding what are you doing (and trying to hit the big jackpot...) well yes, this is a serious issues and it's a waste of time too.

Every approach through which you come through will serve you right as you have intended with gambling, not only applicable to gambling alone but every other things we are committed to doing, but the fact here is that some people deceives themselves by being untrue to themselves, how will you gamble without having a good understanding of what you gambles on, gambling is to serve you right once you have the qualifications that warrant it, we must enjoy gambling and never be careless about things that may deprived us from enjoying gambling, both in having run and making money.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Outhue on March 01, 2023, 03:20:49 PM
William Shakespear (https://www.sikhphilosophy.net/threads/how-do-animations-of-sikh-gurus-heroes-hurt-religious-sentiments.31668/) said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad (https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/process-addiction/compulsive-gambling/how-to-stop-gambling/), but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.
William Shakespeare must have lost his goddamn mind for saying that there is nothing good or bad, only thinking makes it so.

We have SIN for a reason, the human mind have a conscience for the same reason too, if I am born of a serial killer there is a chance that I have the same killing hunger inside of me, I don't have to think or feel, so killing people to me is just normal as far as I don't think it's bad, this is disgusting of him to say that.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: worle1bm on March 01, 2023, 03:53:45 PM
Right it's not good nor bad according to me also and we all have our explanations about the same.Like for me it's not good as we are utilising our funds without any hope of getting them back or anything in return and it's not bad if we are not becoming addicted towards it as we are treating it for entertainment purposes only as game.So we all have our points but yes it's not good nor bad at the last.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Dickiy on March 01, 2023, 04:17:11 PM
William Shakespear (https://www.sikhphilosophy.net/threads/how-do-animations-of-sikh-gurus-heroes-hurt-religious-sentiments.31668/) said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad (https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/process-addiction/compulsive-gambling/how-to-stop-gambling/), but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?
I think in this case not only in gambling but in business, hobbies, work in the context you are talking about, everything can have a bad impact if we do it excessively or beyond reasonable limits because that will make people lose in the gambling they do. This really depends on everyone's perspective from where we see the side of gambling that will give a good conclusion, not good or bad. There is always a reason why something is good or bad so there may be some people who agree with you and people who disagree with you. In my opinion gambling will have a bad impact if you do not have mental and mind control because it is the easiest thing to influence when your do it.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: rahmad2nd on March 01, 2023, 04:32:42 PM
if you gamble for fun, gambling is an awesome way for spending time.
if you gamble for "earning money" without understanding what are you doing (and trying to hit the big jackpot...) well yes, this is a serious issues and it's a waste of time too.


I like what you have to say. which means, gamble for fun without aiming for high wins and just do activities for fun after a busy work routine. do gambling sessions, just to spend the remaining free time while making our minds more relaxed.
however, unnoticed. most of the gamblers, always expect to make money without understanding what it is doing. although consciously, that most of us know the risks of gambling. Unfortunately, the strong urge to get high wins from every gambling session makes many of us forget that initially we were just playing for fun. that in the end, when emotions overwhelm our minds, most of us are more motivated to chase losses which end up suffering bigger losses.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Issa56 on March 01, 2023, 04:38:25 PM
Why will you say gambling is bad? If you are addicted to gambling, then gambling is definitely bad but if you gamble responsibly then I don't see anything wrong in gambling. Whenever you are gambling always know when to stop, you shouldn't take gambling as a source of income, if you take gambling as source of income, then you will definitely end up being addicted to it and it will be bad to you, because you might even end up selling your properties just because you want to gamble, after selling it and you lose then you will start regretting.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: eightdots on March 01, 2023, 04:40:28 PM
if you gamble for fun, gambling is an awesome way for spending time.
if you gamble for "earning money" without understanding what are you doing (and trying to hit the big jackpot...) well yes, this is a serious issues and it's a waste of time too.


I like what you have to say. which means, gamble for fun without aiming for high wins and just do activities for fun after a busy work routine. do gambling sessions, just to spend the remaining free time while making our minds more relaxed.
however, unnoticed. most of the gamblers, always expect to make money without understanding what it is doing. although consciously, that most of us know the risks of gambling. Unfortunately, the strong urge to get high wins from every gambling session makes many of us forget that initially we were just playing for fun. that in the end, when emotions overwhelm our minds, most of us are more motivated to chase losses which end up suffering bigger losses.

Many gamblers may unwittingly find themselves in a bad situation. The gambler must know his limits. Otherwise, it can go beyond entertainment and cause great harm. And he should know that there is a risk at every stage and that if he cannot control himself, the damage will become even greater. The best option is to know how to have fun and to gamble only for pleasure.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Alphakilo on March 01, 2023, 04:53:48 PM
In life generally, too much of everything is bad.To be honest with you, there is nothing bad in gambling. Gambling is bad depending on the perceptive you are seeing it from or your understanding towards it. Gambling is bad when it becomes an addict and no application of self descipline. You can see gambling as a good idea when you gamble out of control by taking loans, selling of your properties.  It becomes a good thing and so fun when you gamble with caution and self control. And not getting addicted to it.
I must say i strongly agree with you that gambling is Neither bad or good.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: cydrix on March 01, 2023, 04:58:14 PM
Gambling can be viewed positively or negatively depending on a variety of factors. It can be a fun form of entertainment and a way to make money, but it can also lead to addiction, financial difficulties, and negative social consequences. If you have a gambling addiction, you should weigh the risks and benefits and seek help.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: shogun47 on March 01, 2023, 05:11:01 PM
@alastantiger I read through the source (https://www.sikhphilosophy.net/threads/how-do-animations-of-sikh-gurus-heroes-hurt-religious-sentiments.31668/) again that you quoted and what came to my mind is another issue besides all of us being individual and growing up in different environments.

"In my opinion, we should really be working to change our minds before we think to change our environment."

I do like the quote and there are many good reasons to argue in favor of it, but particularly today there is a whole range of environmental externalities that shape our minds before we even had a fair chance to shape our minds themselves. Now I could go from fake news to children becoming terrorists because of indoctrination and so on and so forth, but when we stick to the topic of gambling, the information we receive about it is skewed to the extent that to find out whether or not it is good or bad, we need to collect our own experiences. Gamblers usually don't talk about their losses, that is at least how I perceived it ever since I was interested in the topic. Everyone talks about the winnings and how smart they are at analysis of the odds. Then there is legitimization through well known and sometimes reputable celebrities who act as brand ambassadors, people who we would not expect to want or accept any harm for us.

People who are good at maths shape their own minds intellectually and have a stronger ability to filter that noisy and skewed environment for what is most likely to be true. But not everyone has that ability and companies understand whom to target and how to target. That is why I do think that those who are able to carry more responsibility than others also should use that ability to change the environment for the better, for a state that is more representative of reality today than it was yesterday.

The philosophical question whether gambling is neither good or bad can't be finally answered anyway if we don't define certain parameters. If you take a speed limit, is it good or bad? I don't know, but I guess in terms of the number of people dying in car accidents it might be good because less people die.

If we look at gambling from a social perspective it might be good if someone gambles, wins money and distributes it to those in need. It could be bad individually if someone gambles, wins and then has more money to spend on deadly drugs.

I think this is where your statement could make sense because there is no way to determine whether it is good or bad if we don't define parameters and then evaluate the pros and cons of a discussion based on those parameters.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Merit.s on March 01, 2023, 05:11:20 PM
It is bad because in human nature we have difficulty to control our emotions when something bad is happening like losing in a game play session and we want to revert it back,the loss,so the majority of us keep playing and chasing the lost amount of money with the hope that they will get it back.It is exactly this greediness trap that is hidden deep inside our nature that the majority of people say gambling is bad and it actually is for the majority who cannot control their behavior and emotions.It can be beneficial only to those who play an x amount of money a week and call it a day whatever the outcome,either they win or either they lose.

So based on this it is 85% bad and 15% good.
So many people sees gambling as something bad due to the fact that it always ruin people who don't have self control on it. Some persons might learn how to gamble from a friend and will forget to know about the pros and cons of gambling. Such people will always fall into the addiction of gambling in the sense that it will gradually eat them up,if they see it as a way to make profit or start chasing their losses. Gambling also involves the careless spending of money that can be used to assist people in need from both discipline gamblers and indiscipline gamblers. Gambling for fun helps those of us that are already into it to control ourselves.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Cookdata on March 01, 2023, 05:12:12 PM
This is subjective to how the player reacts and what was used to wager; A gambler who used money he could afford to lose is playing for fun, entertainment, and hobbies that can kill time instead of being bored and he is ready to accept the outcome of what game predicted, this is what good gambling portray but gambling becomes bad when the player wager money his not ready to let go and becomes emotional when the result didn't favor him, this is when gambling becomes unhealthy to a gambler, this is what I feel gambling play in our lives and the best of it should be for fun.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Casdinyard on March 01, 2023, 06:54:20 PM
Gambling being good or bad is a little subjective to me, and can only be either of the two if some parameters are met, for instance, it could be good if you are only ever using it for entertainment and pleasure. Say you're stressed from the daily hustle and bustle, you go to your local pachinko to maybe let off some steam and inevitably spend a couple dollars in the process. In this situation, gambling could be considered good, it's regarded as a valid pastime, and is no different from you playing a game to relax or watching a movie or two to wind off. Now, it could be bad if you find yourself addicted to it, and are gambling solely for the purpose of winning and earning money. Gambling will more likely burn through your pockets before you could ever bag a win, and that will just create a positive feedback cycle of chasing wins and losing in the process, until you find yourself in an inescapable hole of debt and depression.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Docnaster on March 01, 2023, 07:02:22 PM
William Shakespear (https://www.sikhphilosophy.net/threads/how-do-animations-of-sikh-gurus-heroes-hurt-religious-sentiments.31668/) said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad (https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/process-addiction/compulsive-gambling/how-to-stop-gambling/), but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

Your statement about gambling is correct.
I have to support your topic because I understand how gamblers behave when they lose bet and compared to when they win.
If a gambler loses all he has he will come out and confess how bad gambling is and the people we say that it is gambling addiction. And they will refer him to a therapist to help him recover his mental wellbeing, but if another Gambler uses $1 to win 10000 dollars everybody will praise the Gambler for being lucky and The Gambler will tell you how good gambling is.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: minime0105 on March 01, 2023, 07:47:21 PM
Gambling as it implies is using what you have in other to get what you are not sure getting, gambling is bad because when you are addicted to gambling you will involve yourself in somany things to satisfy your urge and in so doing it will affect you negatively, in other words gambling is good because it serves as a debt free tools to winners.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: jrrsparkles on March 01, 2023, 07:55:07 PM
Gambling is kind of an entertainment so either its good or bad depends on how much we consume and it varies from one person to another so it totally depends on every individuals. Gambling is kind of addictive so one who wants to enter must know it or else their ignorance is the reason to be blamed for anything wrong happens than they expected. Gambling likely casino is designed in a way to make more rewards but less chances of getting it.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Rigon on March 01, 2023, 08:07:07 PM
It depends on the person.
If someone doesn't have discipline gambling can totally destroy them.
I have heard horror stories of people losing 5-6 houses and businesses to fund their gambling habit.
I always say if you can't control yourself or you have addictive personality disorder then don't gamble.
It is a vice, just like alcohol and cigarettes and drugs and fast food. Self-control is needed.
Gambling is a deadly addiction that once entered is difficult to get out of. In my knowledge and experience, people who are addicted to gambling have never managed their lives well. All the gamblers in my area are always living their life very hard. At one time they had a lot of wealth, but because of their addiction to winning, they were forced to sell all their wealth. In fact, a gambling addict can never be happy in the eyes of the family and in the eyes of the society they are a very hated figure. I would like to say from my personal side that those who are interested in gambling should never turn this gambling into an addiction. Even if you play for fun, it should never become an addiction.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on March 01, 2023, 08:27:41 PM
I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?
That's well said of you O.P, because just as stated above, gambling is neither good nor bad but our actions to it define what it is to our lives, which is why I always say that people should stick to gambling with an amount they can always afford to lose, so that if in case the outcome does not go as planned, it doesn't affect you that much, because moreover, there are two things you ought not to gamble with;
1. A loan from bank, friend or anywhere else
2. All your life savings, hoping you will win a game


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: pixie85 on March 01, 2023, 08:49:36 PM
I said bad.

Even my self as the gambler, I always said is bad and never-ever want to ask or try to invited my friend from non-gambling user to gambler. I mean look at the cost, the problem is not only the person who are gambling.

But also, other people who are can get the effect.

I'd call it neutral. Gambling as an activity is op as long as you have it under control.

If you ask someone who won a lot of money playing poker if gambling is bad they'll tell you it's not but for that person to make a lot of money there had to be at least a few losers whose money he took.

There's no good or bad here. If you lose money or are an addict you'll say it's bad. If you win money you'll say it's good. More people lose so the "bad" side is going to be stronger.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: coin-investor on March 01, 2023, 08:56:01 PM
Here in our country, we have different views on gambling since our country is a democratic one, our government gets revenues from operating lotteries and casinos and gives employment to a lot of people and some companies and industries are relying on gambling for their operations, so for those who rely on gambling for revenues and employment as long as the government legalizes its operation it is good for the economy.
But for the victims of gambling addiction and moral institutions like religious organizations gambling is bad and they don't want a gambling establishment to exist.
So gambling reputation very much depends on the group or sector of people if they benefit its good for them if they are the victim it's bad for them.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: lionheart78 on March 01, 2023, 09:13:34 PM
If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

I don't think approaching gambling with discipline will make it a relaxing and fun activity.  I believe if you look at gambling as a way of entertaining yourself and are not conscious about winning and losing then anyone can find gambling fun and relaxing.  The moment our motive changes from having fun to getting a big win, then that changes, it is not fun anymore and not relaxing if our bankroll is getting depleted.

And yes, I agree that gambling is neutral and how people look at it makes it good or bad.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: jayce on March 01, 2023, 09:30:31 PM
I have checked every page of replies on this thread and I think, to those who saying gambling is bad and wouldn't recommend to any of their relatives, no offense, sounds a bit hypocrisy, because at the same time they are using gambling related signature. I respect your life principal and belief why you avoid gambling, but by advertising a gambling company on your own signature and earning money from there means the opposite of your own words.

While I'm here, let me state my opinion. Well, I think gambling is like liquors or cigarettes, which it might be quite addictive to some people but as long as you can handle the effect and you dont do it frequently, then you really know how to enjoy it. If we talk about the bad effect of gambling, well everything has its bad effect if we do that too much. E.g. if you play video game too much, you'd waste your precious time and your health could get affected because you are too busy to play and don't eat properly.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: carlfebz2 on March 01, 2023, 09:33:57 PM
If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

I don't think approaching gambling with discipline will make it a relaxing and fun activity.  I believe if you look at gambling as a way of entertaining yourself and are not conscious about winning and losing then anyone can find gambling fun and relaxing.  The moment our motive changes from having fun to getting a big win, then that changes, it is not fun anymore and not relaxing if our bankroll is getting depleted.

And yes, I agree that gambling is neutral and how people look at it makes it good or bad.
You are definitely right on this one because gambling should really be for fun but we know that majority of people would really go into that path on which they do really that believe that it is something that could

bring out money or make them rich on shortest time as possible, and this is the thing that makes them desperate and this would cause up some actions which arent really that sensible or doesnt have any sense
at all.
Gambling isnt bad as long you arent compromising your finances because this is the main problem whenever a certain person do make out some involvement on such activity.
You should really be always held responsible for whatever actions you are tending to make.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: bisdak40 on March 01, 2023, 09:36:28 PM
Gambling is kind of an entertainment so either its good or bad depends on how much we consume and it varies from one person to another so it totally depends on every individuals. Gambling is kind of addictive so one who wants to enter must know it or else their ignorance is the reason to be blamed for anything wrong happens than they expected. Gambling likely casino is designed in a way to make more rewards but less chances of getting it.

Just like the OP has said that gambling is neither good nor bad, I agree with that. Though this is addictive but if you have discipline and self-control which is a must if you are into gambling then I could say that you will have enjoyment on your journey as a gambler. Gambling is not all about winning and losings but also the lessons you learned from it is very applicable to our daily life.

Have personally met many gamblers and heard their stories but one thing that I could say is that those people who ruined their life because of gambling were the ones who lacked discipline and self-control.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: livingfree on March 01, 2023, 09:40:23 PM
It all sums up with how we see gambling. Those people that really have terrible experience will look for someone or something to blame for with their misfortune. Especially, if they don't want to accept their losses and it's hard to imagine thinking that it would be a great move for them to just accept that they've loss but they won't.

Also, it's all about our free will. Nobody forced us to gamble so if there's anyone to blame for, it should be ourselves and our decisions. It's true that it's neither bad or good but depends on the perception who sees it and the feedback that he'll give to it.

The way we see things doesn't change the nature of these things.
A person can be seen a s good or bad depending on what views those judging said person have, but it doesn't make that person good or bad.
If you shoot a deer, hunters will say you're a good man, and animal rights activists will say you're bad, but it doesn't make you good or bad.
A gambler who steals to feed his habit is bad beyond doubt, but gambling itself isn't bad.
Right on.

Depending on how we see things and with gambling, we knew that good and bad sides of it but gambling alone isn't really bad. It's not that bad for the owner of it as it's his business and for the gamblers alone, it's only becoming bad if they're losing and doing some off things just to continue.

But if they're winning, do they see the bad thing about it? I don't think so. So to those that sees it bad, it's because they've seen something bad to an actual gambler and that has been stuck into their mind that all gamblers are like that.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Finestream on March 01, 2023, 09:42:42 PM
I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of "gambling is neither good nor bad".  That is really the way people should look at it.  It's kind of like doing certain drugs, they may not be bad for you if you do them in moderation and don't let them take over and consume your life.  Sure there can be some negative effects, but there's also plenty of positive effects (for certain drugs)..so it's really all about ones mentality of mental strength.
Gambling is neither good or bad because you can you always be entertained and profitable if you are lucky enough. However, if you gamble and aim to beat the house and chase all the profits, that will be too bad for you. No one is able to beat the house as gambling is always designed to have the casino’s house always at its own advantage. So one should gamble at its moderation. If you can’t handle the gambling pressures, then never start gambling in the first place.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Sanitough on March 01, 2023, 09:49:37 PM
Gambling is a bad habit especially if you are overdoing it. That is a known fact. We don’t need to have a debate over this. However, by playing responsibly you can minimize the bad effects of gambling in your life. Playing responsibly means that you shouldn’t lose your control. You can bet a hundred times in one day and still be a responsible gambler as long as you don’t wager too much.

If gambling makes you forget about the bad stuff you have in your life then you might even consider it a good thing. But like I said, you should play responsibly otherwise gambling will be just another problem for you to fix.
Right. Gambling is good if you are doing it the right thing, and seeing it as an entertainment purposes rather than making it as a living. But if you gamble more than you can afford to lose and spend all your life savings to chase more profits, that is gambling irresponsibly which will eventually lead you into a lot of losses and find yourself gambling addicted in the end. So be responsible if you don’t want to end up like this.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Fatunad on March 01, 2023, 09:59:06 PM
Gambling is a bad habit especially if you are overdoing it. That is a known fact. We don’t need to have a debate over this. However, by playing responsibly you can minimize the bad effects of gambling in your life. Playing responsibly means that you shouldn’t lose your control. You can bet a hundred times in one day and still be a responsible gambler as long as you don’t wager too much.

If gambling makes you forget about the bad stuff you have in your life then you might even consider it a good thing. But like I said, you should play responsibly otherwise gambling will be just another problem for you to fix.
Right. Gambling is good if you are doing it the right thing, and seeing it as an entertainment purposes rather than making it as a living. But if you gamble more than you can afford to lose and spend all your life savings to chase more profits, that is gambling irresponsibly which will eventually lead you into a lot of losses and find yourself gambling addicted in the end. So be responsible if you don’t want to end up like this.
Right thing is considered as the following;

1. Have that emotional control
2. Having that financial control
3. You do have the discipline on when to stop completely
4. Having fun and doesnt aim for money or profits

This is where most people do fail on doing so and ending up on getting addicted because they arent that mindful when it comes
to their actions.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Vaculin on March 01, 2023, 09:59:22 PM
Gambling is a bad habit especially if you are overdoing it. That is a known fact. We don’t need to have a debate over this. However, by playing responsibly you can minimize the bad effects of gambling in your life. Playing responsibly means that you shouldn’t lose your control. You can bet a hundred times in one day and still be a responsible gambler as long as you don’t wager too much.

If gambling makes you forget about the bad stuff you have in your life then you might even consider it a good thing. But like I said, you should play responsibly otherwise gambling will be just another problem for you to fix.
Everything that is done by abuse will not succeed. Same with gambling, if you gamble and used up all your money, that will turn you into a beggar and suffer the consequences from losing in gambling. For sure, no one’s gonna end up like that. However, if you only gamble at your spare money because you just want to be entertained, and yet you earned profits as a bonus, then you are doing gambling the right way. As long as you never crossed your limits in gambling, then you are considered a responsible gambler.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: capedbaldy on March 01, 2023, 10:23:19 PM
Everything that is done by abuse will not succeed. Same with gambling, if you gamble and used up all your money, that will turn you into a beggar and suffer the consequences from losing in gambling. For sure, no one’s gonna end up like that. However, if you only gamble at your spare money because you just want to be entertained, and yet you earned profits as a bonus, then you are doing gambling the right way. As long as you never crossed your limits in gambling, then you are considered a responsible gambler.
Agree, we only need to set a money limit for gambling and never consider gambling for profit, but if we determine profits only bonuses and enjoy gambling only for entertainment then there is nothing to worry about in gambling, so being a responsible gambler is very simple and we never assume gambling is bad, because there is nothing wrong in gambling if we have money limits and have good emotional control in gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Casdinyard on March 01, 2023, 10:26:05 PM
I have checked every page of replies on this thread and I think, to those who saying gambling is bad and wouldn't recommend to any of their relatives, no offense, sounds a bit hypocrisy, because at the same time they are using gambling related signature. I respect your life principal and belief why you avoid gambling, but by advertising a gambling company on your own signature and earning money from there means the opposite of your own words.

While I'm here, let me state my opinion. Well, I think gambling is like liquors or cigarettes, which it might be quite addictive to some people but as long as you can handle the effect and you dont do it frequently, then you really know how to enjoy it. If we talk about the bad effect of gambling, well everything has its bad effect if we do that too much. E.g. if you play video game too much, you'd waste your precious time and your health could get affected because you are too busy to play and don't eat properly.
Point taken, coz if you think about it their argument for not letting their relatives know about gambling is the fact that it could make you lose all your money, but the fact of the matter is they mistake the method with the perpetrator. You won't lose all your money if you gamble responsibly, and do not succumb to the pressures of losing money on a bet all to win your capital back, that's not how gambling works. Smoking and Drinking are a not good examples however because those things, save for liquor are inherently bad and are created to be addicting, because if that's not the case I don't think people will have a hard time quitting their vices. Nonetheless, you've made your statement clear and I stand by it as well.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: romero121 on March 01, 2023, 10:31:36 PM
Everything that is done by abuse will not succeed. Same with gambling, if you gamble and used up all your money, that will turn you into a beggar and suffer the consequences from losing in gambling. For sure, no one’s gonna end up like that. However, if you only gamble at your spare money because you just want to be entertained, and yet you earned profits as a bonus, then you are doing gambling the right way. As long as you never crossed your limits in gambling, then you are considered a responsible gambler.
Agree, we only need to set a money limit for gambling and never consider gambling for profit, but if we determine profits only bonuses and enjoy gambling only for entertainment then there is nothing to worry about in gambling, so being a responsible gambler is very simple and we never assume gambling is bad, because there is nothing wrong in gambling if we have money limits and have good emotional control in gambling.
At times it looks like gambling is for the rich, because they're the one who can play without thinking of money. Most users have mentioned about gambling with limits. This is possible, but at times we want ourselves to be on the lucky side. This is where the emotional control gets lost. If this happens to a person with good money, he never bothers about the loss whereas the person like you and me might feel bad for the loss. This also causes to loss emotional control. Maybe some 5% of gamblers will stay with control.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: DoublerHunter on March 01, 2023, 10:49:41 PM
Gambling is kind of an entertainment so either its good or bad depends on how much we consume and it varies from one person to another so it totally depends on every individuals. Gambling is kind of addictive so one who wants to enter must know it or else their ignorance is the reason to be blamed for anything wrong happens than they expected. Gambling likely casino is designed in a way to make more rewards but less chances of getting it.
^Definitely right, it all depends on you.
Gambling can be neither inherently good nor bad because it is an activity that can have both positive and negative effects, depending on the circumstances and the individual's behavior. So it can be seen as a form of entertainment that can provide enjoyment and excitement for those who participate responsibly. For some people, gambling can also be a social activity that allows them to connect with others and form new relationships. But gambling can provide economic benefits to communities, such as increased tourism and job creation in the gaming industry.
It can also have negative consequences, particularly when individuals engage in it excessively or irresponsibly. Problem gambling can lead to financial ruin, addiction, and mental health issues. It can also harm families and relationships, as well as contribute to criminal activity and social problems. So I think whether gambling is good or bad depends on how it is approached and managed. Responsible gambling practices, such as setting limits on time and money spent, can help mitigate the risks and negative consequences of gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on March 01, 2023, 10:54:49 PM
Gambling is bad... nothing more
There's nothing like being good or bad, why have you got options?? Why on earth do people keep losing on something and they still wanna try?
What's the essence?? These are the simple questions I Aks myself just to know if it's really necessary to Begin this whole gambling shiii' at first.When it's bad, it's bad...for the fact that peeps normally make it major sometimes doesn't make it a better option, does it? I'm even happy that some tough gamblers are even against the fact that it's said to be something "good"... Lol..

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Ryker1 on March 01, 2023, 11:07:38 PM
Gambling is bad... nothing more
There's nothing like being good or bad, why have you got options?? Why on earth do people keep losing on something and they still wanna try?
What's the essence?? These are the simple questions I Aks myself just to know if it's really necessary to Begin this whole gambling shiii' at first.When it's bad, it's bad...for the fact that peeps normally make it major sometimes doesn't make it a better option, does it? I'm even happy that some tough gamblers are even against the fact that it's said to be something "good"... Lol..

Sandra 🧑‍🦰
I respect your opinion.
It is true that some people may view gambling as inherently bad due to the negative consequences or negative outcomes it can have --but it is important to recognize that others may have a different perspective. But for me, gambling can be seen as a form of entertainment or leisure activity that they enjoy, and they may not experience the negative consequences that others do. It is also a way to potentially win money or improve their financial situation, although this can be a risky and unreliable strategy. I admit that there are certain risks and negative outcomes associated with gambling, but it is important to approach the topic with nuance and recognize that individuals may have different experiences and perspectives. It is also important to be responsible for gambling practices and provide resources and support for individuals who may be struggling with problem gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Lanatsa on March 01, 2023, 11:16:39 PM
Gambling is bad... nothing more
There's nothing like being good or bad, why have you got options?? Why on earth do people keep losing on something and they still wanna try?
What's the essence?? These are the simple questions I Aks myself just to know if it's really necessary to Begin this whole gambling shiii' at first.When it's bad, it's bad...for the fact that peeps normally make it major sometimes doesn't make it a better option, does it? I'm even happy that some tough gamblers are even against the fact that it's said to be something "good"... Lol..

Sandra 🧑‍🦰
Its not bad because its just a past time or leisure time, what makes bad is on the action that been made by a particular person because it was basing up on your own will because no one forced you to play gambling

in the first place which means that it is really that basing up on your own decision on why you do end up on playing and spending up lots of money which it is your decision on doing so.

You cant just make out some generalization that it is bad but if this was based on your religion then lets just respect on what others been believing. :)
There are really that different principles where people do believe and follow on.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: tabas on March 01, 2023, 11:56:33 PM
Agree, we only need to set a money limit for gambling and never consider gambling for profit, but if we determine profits only bonuses and enjoy gambling only for entertainment then there is nothing to worry about in gambling, so being a responsible gambler is very simple and we never assume gambling is bad, because there is nothing wrong in gambling if we have money limits and have good emotional control in gambling.
Been said countless times that gambling isn't for profit but we have to accept the reality that even people telling something like that about gambling, everyone will shift their desire to earn a profit through gambling because it's one quick way to either win or lose. But having the proper mindset just as you've mentioned that if you treat it that way, that's the consolation that you get whenever you lose, you'll think that nothing should be need to wary about because you're all in for the entertainment value that it gives. And if you win, that's when things could change that your mindset will have that thought eventually that it's good a thing to gamble when you're lucky because it earns you money and you also enjoy at the same time. Although it all sets in having a limit so that you won't be gambling too much and it won't result to a bad habit.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: uneng on March 02, 2023, 01:42:17 AM
Gambling is bad... nothing more
There's nothing like being good or bad, why have you got options?? Why on earth do people keep losing on something and they still wanna try?
What's the essence?? These are the simple questions I Aks myself just to know if it's really necessary to Begin this whole gambling shiii' at first.When it's bad, it's bad...for the fact that peeps normally make it major sometimes doesn't make it a better option, does it? I'm even happy that some tough gamblers are even against the fact that it's said to be something "good"... Lol..

Sandra 🧑‍🦰
It just means gambling isn't for you, as you don't see any effective purpose on it. But I must say that for others gambling makes total sense as a present activity on their routine, because they see a purpose on it, despite the losses most gamblers face within time.

It might be fun, chances of making profit or excitement that drive people to continue gambling, but it's undeniable since the beginning of the humans' socities it has been like this. If gambling was just a hype or a worthless activity, I believe it would have already disappeared a long time ago.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: danherbias07 on March 02, 2023, 01:45:36 AM
Gambling is bad... nothing more
There's nothing like being good or bad, why have you got options?? Why on earth do people keep losing on something and they still wanna try?
What's the essence?? These are the simple questions I Aks myself just to know if it's really necessary to Begin this whole gambling shiii' at first.When it's bad, it's bad...for the fact that peeps normally make it major sometimes doesn't make it a better option, does it? I'm even happy that some tough gamblers are even against the fact that it's said to be something "good"... Lol..

Sandra 🧑‍🦰
It is when you see it that way. Perhaps you live in an environment where that is their traditional belief.
For rich people this is nothing more than entertainment, somewhere they could spend their money and somehow feel good about it. For others, it's an ingredient to make a game more thrilling. When you are watching sports, it's not that fun anymore unless you have some money on the line.
It's only bad for unresponsible people who do not have much money to provide for their families and yet they still gamble it.
As long as you know how you are spending it, I don't think it's "bad" just yet. If you can provide for your own hobbies then it's responsible gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: dothebeats on March 02, 2023, 04:56:43 AM
Gambling takes money from the one who plays yet gives out to those who work under it. Its effects are positive or negative depending on who you ask. It gives livelihood and takes away money from other people. So yeah, there really isn't a good or bad in gambling, at least for me. It only becomes bad because people focus on the few people that gambled so much and lost so much that they turn into addicts. Very rarely have I seen an article or some news praising the industry for its help in the society.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: btc78 on March 02, 2023, 05:55:56 AM
It depends on the person.

If someone doesn't have discipline gambling can totally destroy them.
this is the other side of gambling in which mostly happens , and yeah better to stay on the different area if you don't wanna lose forever.
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I have heard horror stories of people losing 5-6 houses and businesses to fund their gambling habit.
that is BS, I will never risk something that big and maybe he had lost His family also?
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I always say if you can't control yourself or you have addictive personality disorder then don't gamble.

It is a vice, just like alcohol and cigarettes and drugs and fast food. Self-control is needed.
it is correct, if you cannot handle then never try .. that is the simple idea .


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: uche6215 on March 02, 2023, 06:46:17 AM
Sometimes gambling is a bit good, and most times gambling is a pinch destructive.
*Gambling is a bit good when a beginner is always winning, and he or she doesn't know the risk.
*Gambling is bad when a gambler is generously addicted to it, if a gambler, gambled what more he's supposed to gamble with that makes it very bad.
That's why gambling is unpredictable.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: irhact on March 02, 2023, 07:21:19 AM
It only becomes bad because people focus on the few people that gambled so much and lost so much that they turn into addicts. Very rarely have I seen an article or some news praising the industry for its help in the society.

Sorry to say but those people aren't few, there's a vast majority of losers than winners when it comes to gambling and that's why it seems to be a profitable business for the casino owners. Gambling has done more bad than good to the society but this is a free world and nobody should be deciding what's good or bad to people, they should make those decisions themselves.

They're far many more industry that's doing more harm than good but yet they're still been allowed to operate and that's why gambling is been allowed as well. If you play your cards right and lucky, you win but if you're unlucky you lose. Nobody is forcing anyone's to gamble as such it isn't breaking a rule or order.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: LogitechMouse on March 02, 2023, 07:51:48 AM
Gambling is bad... nothing more
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Why on earth do people keep losing on something and they still wanna try?
Your question is like "Why on earth do people keep investing into an investment if they already know that it's a scam or kind of sketchy?"

Don't say people like all of them are losing on something because not all gamblers have the same experience. There are gamblers who are winning in gambling, but there are some gamblers who are losing money, but for some reasons they want to still try it. What's the reason? I don't know, but the possible answer is that they are addicted into it already that they can't stop themselves even if they wanted to.

You say gambling is bad, and there's nothing wrong in that because it's your opinion. On the other hand, even though many gamblers look gambling as a bad thing, there will be a few gamblers that will be saying that it is good for some reasons. It will only become bad if a gambler is making bad decisions that is related to gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Oshosondy on March 02, 2023, 08:08:47 AM
Sorry to say but those people aren't few, there's a vast majority of losers than winners when it comes to gambling and that's why it seems to be a profitable business for the casino owners. Gambling has done more bad than good to the society but this is a free world and nobody should be deciding what's good or bad to people, they should make those decisions themselves.
It depends on how you see it, gambling is not by force, also not for under 18 years old, it is advisable for people to gamble responsibly, but some people are greedy and see gambling as a means to earn money and make a living from income from gambling, which result to addiction and loss of more money. Many people are taking gambling to be what it supposed not to be just because of their greediness.

If you take a look of it from another aspect, gambling helps in a nation too, many people that supposed to be unemployed are employed by gambling companies, many software they use are from the contracts given to their developers which constantly work on the software and fix some bugs and they pay them, the games they are providing are from other companies or people that are paid, they pay tax to government, they advertise, which means they are also very useful.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: darewaller on March 02, 2023, 09:45:39 AM
Honestly it all depends on who you are going to be asking, if you ask a winner who has gone from wagering a $100 bill to getting a million out of gambling there is no way such a person would ever say gambling is bad.. But if you ask someone that blew huge sums of money to a point of amassing debt, relationships breaking up and losing valuable properties as a result of trying to get back to winning ways then gambling will always be labeled bad.
To turn a hundred dollar to a million is not easy. It takes a lot of trials and error. Pretty sure that the person will advice anyone to not follow what he was doing because the consequences can be damaging if one is not too professional to handle his huge losses.

Those who lost their entire life in gambling, don't have the rights to blame it to gambling because it was their own fault at the first place on why they become addicted. Other people are only enjoying the game and they have no problems with gambling. We can win and stop in gambling but we can come back again later on. Others will just continue playing because they know that they will still end up with that.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Cantsay on March 02, 2023, 09:55:03 AM
I would say it has both the good part and the detrimental part but we have more of the detrimental part than the good part.

If a greedy person and one who doesn't know how to control themselves engage in a gambling activity they'll always end up with a negative result most of the times, I'm not talking about the wins here. But, instead what I mean is the health, mental and financial danger that it poses. Most people get addicted to gambling and before even realising what they're doing their savings is gone they'll end up gambling everything that they have managed to save in just a couple of days or weeks.
While most people that are new to gambling think that it's a good thing because they always end up winning and if eventually they start to lose they'll want to start chasing after their losses.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: jrrsparkles on March 02, 2023, 10:09:04 AM
Gambling is kind of an entertainment so either its good or bad depends on how much we consume and it varies from one person to another so it totally depends on every individuals. Gambling is kind of addictive so one who wants to enter must know it or else their ignorance is the reason to be blamed for anything wrong happens than they expected. Gambling likely casino is designed in a way to make more rewards but less chances of getting it.

Just like the OP has said that gambling is neither good nor bad, I agree with that. Though this is addictive but if you have discipline and self-control which is a must if you are into gambling then I could say that you will have enjoyment on your journey as a gambler. Gambling is not all about winning and losings but also the lessons you learned from it is very applicable to our daily life.

Have personally met many gamblers and heard their stories but one thing that I could say is that those people who ruined their life because of gambling were the ones who lacked discipline and self-control.
Lack of self discipline is something connected with our personality which can be changed only if the person decides to do it, most people know gambling is risky but they still take the risk and sometimes it beyond their hand which is the problem.

Probably told million times already here that is don't gamble more than you can afford to lose but still people are ignorant about the fact.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: inthelongrun on March 02, 2023, 10:19:31 AM
Well said OP. Gambling is supposed to be fun and relaxing if we know our limits or it will turn into bad. It's like eating, eating too many turns into bad. Spending more than our budget is bad. All of us want to have a portion of our income for fun and relaxing and gambling makes no difference to watching movies, drinking liquor, shopping, or traveling. I feel pity for those poor people who are addicted to gambling. Maybe it's the lack of education and understanding which is why they cannot stop the urge to gamble.  


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: len01 on March 02, 2023, 10:58:11 AM
gambling is one of those businesses that are established to make a profit. and we as gamblers should know it. so we already understand that gambling is only limited to entertainment and are ready to lose to give profits to gambling companies.
and from the casino it is also always reminded that gambling responsibly means gambling using money you can afford to lose and don't spend all your savings just for fun.
sometimes there are casinos that don't want their customers to gamble irresponsibly and spend all their savings.
but sometimes greedy gamblers always expect bigger profits in gambling. so they always lose all their money chasing big win.

so we as gamblers when gambling always plan a budget for gambling that can afford to lose, in my opinion it will be fine and will not regret gambling when you lose money.
and for me it is true that gambling is neither good nor bad


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on March 02, 2023, 11:09:47 AM
Spending more than our budget is bad.

Let's face the real fact, spending on gambling, more than we budgeted for it is not what is bad or makes it bad, what really makes spending too much on gambling bad is when or if we win nothing in the process.
Let's say for example, I budgeted to spend $100 on gambling today, and in the process of gambling, I won $8000, and at the end of the day, I ended up spending $1000 on that particular day on gambling, this simply means that I spent more than I budgeted which is $100, but then also, even though I spent more than I budgeted, I still have a profit of about $7000, which in real sense isn't bad at all.

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All of us want to have a portion of our income for fun and relaxing and gambling makes no difference to watching movies, drinking liquor, shopping, or traveling.
I put it to you that you are mistaken, gambling is never the same thing as watching movies or drinking liquor, traveling or shopping, but I can sure say that gambling Is one end of a stick, while watching movies, traveling, etc is another end.
In gambling, you are taking a risk which could lead to lose of money and time, or winning more money while loosing time, but in watching movies, you are simply loosing time and not loosing or making money in return.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Wexnident on March 02, 2023, 11:54:27 AM
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There are even religions that do see gambling is a bad thing or there are communities or people who do always have bad impressions and looks towards gambling.They do always look
into its negative side which is on making someone getting addicted and ending up their lives miserable.This is why they do really have this kind of approach and there's
no way that we could blame them in regarding with their perspective to it but it isnt really just right that they should really be that conclusive
just because they had seen just one side and not the other.
I'd actually avoid the topic of relating gambling to religion, after all, I highly doubt there's a religion out there that has a positive recognition of it. At most, they allow it due to modernization but in the past, they were probably against it. And I can't blame religion for only looking at one side of things, that's just how religion goes imo.

Sorry to say but those people aren't few, there's a vast majority of losers than winners when it comes to gambling and that's why it seems to be a profitable business for the casino owners. Gambling has done more bad than good to the society but this is a free world and nobody should be deciding what's good or bad to people, they should make those decisions themselves.
It depends on how you see it, gambling is not by force, also not for under 18 years old, it is advisable for people to gamble responsibly, but some people are greedy and see gambling as a means to earn money and make a living from income from gambling, which result to addiction and loss of more money. Many people are taking gambling to be what it supposed not to be just because of their greediness.
I'd agree to how gambling brought a LOT of losers and a few winners, but at the end, that's the result of us wanting to gamble, and not because gambling existed. The act of "gambling" in itself already exists with some of our everyday decisions, so saying that it brought more "bad" than good is kind of just wrong, since it only takes into account the gambling activity that relates money.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: panjul07 on March 02, 2023, 12:33:49 PM
Gambling is bad... nothing more
There's nothing like being good or bad, why have you got options?? Why on earth do people keep losing on something and they still wanna try?
What's the essence?? These are the simple questions I Aks myself just to know if it's really necessary to Begin this whole gambling shiii' at first.When it's bad, it's bad...for the fact that peeps normally make it major sometimes doesn't make it a better option, does it? I'm even happy that some tough gamblers are even against the fact that it's said to be something "good"... Lol..

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If it is as bad as what you think, why do you advertise it in your signature?
Does it mean that you are supporting something bad as long as you can earn something from it?  :D
Gambling itself is not bad, the bad side is on the gamblers who cant deal with it wisely.
Just like your phone, will you say it is bad because there are many kids who are addicted of playing mobile games that make them forget other things?


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: chaser15 on March 02, 2023, 12:42:18 PM
I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

You can't expect most gamblers, newbie or not, to do and follow what you said about "discipline".

Not all gamblers have the same approach when they do gambling aside from the fact that every people is really different from each others. Sometimes, it needs a lot of the worst and most painful gambling experiences before a gambler learns the art of being a disciplined gambler. There are also cases where a person doesn't reach the status of being a responsible gambler and eventually will just quit for good.

Just mind our own and do our best to always act disciplined and responsible at all times. It's easy to give advice but once you feel the actual pressure of gambling, especially in the situation where currently experiencing winning or losing, that's the time a gambler can test themselves on how to act responsibly.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Daltonik on March 02, 2023, 12:55:57 PM
Gambling, like everything that surrounds us, does not exist by itself, they exist because it is natural for a person to try his luck, but if it goes so far that the player is completely immersed in them, then of course others looking at him will say "perhaps gambling is really bad if they bring it to this". However, there are moments in life, you can have fun and at the same time get the opportunity to win while in an online casino or at a slot machine, but this does not mean that gambling is good. It's like a weapon with which it's nice to spend time in a shooting range or on a shooting range, but when a war starts, no one says that weapons are to blame for this.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: GideonGono on March 02, 2023, 01:15:09 PM
Gambling, like everything that surrounds us, does not exist by itself, they exist because it is natural for a person to try his luck, but if it goes so far that the player is completely immersed in them, then of course others looking at him will say "perhaps gambling is really bad if they bring it to this". However, there are moments in life, you can have fun and at the same time get the opportunity to win while in an online casino or at a slot machine, but this does not mean that gambling is good. It's like a weapon with which it's nice to spend time in a shooting range or on a shooting range, but when a war starts, no one says that weapons are to blame for this.
It is how you explained it and for me it is really accurate.
Gambling doesn't exist by itself those who surrounds it are the ones keeping it alive.
And it is true we could see it in both good and bad ways it would ony depends on how we use it or see it.
Some peope tend to gamble to relax have fun, while other's are doing it out of their addiction which destroys their own life.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: pawanjain on March 02, 2023, 01:21:52 PM
William Shakespear (https://www.sikhphilosophy.net/threads/how-do-animations-of-sikh-gurus-heroes-hurt-religious-sentiments.31668/) said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad (https://www.therecoveryvillage.com/process-addiction/compulsive-gambling/how-to-stop-gambling/), but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?

I think that's correct. It's our own perspective that makes things good or bad.
If we look at it from a negative perspective then it automatically becomes a bad thing and vice versa.
Yes, gambling does require a lot of self control which many don't really have which is why a negative portray is present in their minds.
If many people would start winning money in gambling the n it wouldn't take much time before everyone starts saying positive things about gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Solosanz on March 02, 2023, 01:46:21 PM
I think many people are see gambling is good, because if many people think gambling is bad, they must be stay away from gambling and any casinos would collapse due to lack of players. But the real fact there's a lot new casino sites have been created, so there are a lot people really interested to gamble and didn't think gambling is bad. To stay away from gambling is really easy, just don't deposit and play.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: 348Judah on March 02, 2023, 01:58:03 PM
I want to believe that our decision on whether gambling is good or bad is often determined by the experience we have in gambling either the ones that work in our favour when we win or the one that goes against it when we loose, but we forget that we are the ones that set the pace for what we experience with gambling, if we are able to achieve something big and bee in recent times, then we will appreciate gambling otherwise we take it as bad if we get it all wrong whenever we gambles from the bet we take, we cannot have only one of these at the same time always, the combination of the good and the bad experience is what creates more fun on something to gist about in gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: BobK71 on March 02, 2023, 02:33:39 PM
I think many people are see gambling is good, because if many people think gambling is bad, they must be stay away from gambling and any casinos would collapse due to lack of players. But the real fact there's a lot new casino sites have been created, so there are a lot people really interested to gamble and didn't think gambling is bad. To stay away from gambling is really easy, just don't deposit and play.
Gambling is for fun and that is why the gambling industry constantly growing. The negative impacts spread very quickly through those who engage in uncontrolled gambling. There are also many gamblers who are more motivated by their temporary pleasure than money and some gamblers in gambling who uses the necessary money to gamble and loses. We cannot consider all gamblers are the same based on some gambler's characteristics.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: nimogsm on March 02, 2023, 02:34:41 PM
I am convinced that if a person is poorly organized in life, then he should not even begin to get involved in gambling. In this matter, self-discipline is very important and it is she who will help control the course of the game and not drive yourself into losses in the worst case. It is important to enjoy the time spent and money and not to experience stress and get into debt.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: jostorres on March 02, 2023, 05:20:53 PM
"Every remedy can be a poison and every poison can be a remedy. What matters is the quantity."
I'm not saying that moderate gambling is a "remedy". It's just a way to have fun and spend some time and money.
Gambling moderately is OK(I won't say that it's something good), excessive gambling, which leads to addiction is bad.
The same applies to all bad habits. Basically, you are wasting your time and money for the sake of having a dopamine boost in your brain.
There are other more useful things to do in your life to give you dopamine, but we have chosen to play gambling games. ;D
In summary, I think that gambling isn't completely neutral, it stands somewhere between "neutral" and "bad".
Gambling is a remedy if we have problems and want to forget them. Any kind of problems like if we are sad or financial. Gambling could solve it but it will become a poison if one does not control their selves and over use it. I don't believe that gambling itself can start as a poison. It sounds not right since poison is not edible for the humans. Gambling has no issues but it was only the person who misuse it are the ones who thinks that gambling is bad.

I think it was the quality that matters over the quantity. So even if you play with tiny amounts as long as you make the most of it, you will always feel satisfied at the end but no matter how big is the amount that you use, if you don't have contentment, you will still feel not enough.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: rahmad2nd on March 02, 2023, 07:37:56 PM
Gambling, like everything that surrounds us, does not exist by itself, they exist because it is natural for a person to try his luck, but if it goes so far that the player is completely immersed in them, then of course others looking at him will say "perhaps gambling is really bad if they bring it to this". However, there are moments in life, you can have fun and at the same time get the opportunity to win while in an online casino or at a slot machine, but this does not mean that gambling is good. It's like a weapon with which it's nice to spend time in a shooting range or on a shooting range, but when a war starts, no one says that weapons are to blame for this.
It is how you explained it and for me it is really accurate.
Gambling doesn't exist by itself those who surrounds it are the ones keeping it alive.
And it is true we could see it in both good and bad ways it would ony depends on how we use it or see it.
Some peope tend to gamble to relax have fun, while other's are doing it out of their addiction which destroys their own life.

Gambling has been discovered since ancient times, its existence is now growing along with technological developments. In the past, gambling was part of traditional community activities without having to risk money in it. there are also in some corners of the world there, who have made gambling a part of their traditions and culture.

In this era, gambling is not foreign and taboo for modern society. So, it all depends again on someone defining gambling for themselves. Gambling controversy in the community will never go away, about good and bad, some say, gambling is neither good nor bad. however, it all comes down to how we define it. Gambling can be bad, for those who have no control and play blindly. Gambling, can be a positive thing, if someone only involves pleasure in it, to pamper ourselves, by involving a little betting in it. so in the end, it all comes back to each of us and how we define gambling itself.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: BitcoinAccepted on March 02, 2023, 07:53:02 PM
Many people will say that gambling is a bad habit. It doesn't have to be that way, but it generally is. Rarely are there players who have great success in gambling and the world has a huge number of addictions in the gambling world. But gambling itself is not good or bad, only the addiction and consequences are a problem. Financially, of course, but you can also get into trouble mentally. And not many people will say that gambling is good for you. You could see it as entertainment, but we're talking about taking a small amount of money to a casino and then staying there for a night with some drinks. That is different from sitting at home gambling on the computer all evening.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: erep on March 02, 2023, 08:00:17 PM
In this era, gambling is not foreign and taboo for modern society. So, it all depends again on someone defining gambling for themselves. Gambling controversy in the community will never go away, about good and bad, some say, gambling is neither good nor bad. however, it all comes down to how we define it. Gambling can be bad, for those who have no control and play blindly. Gambling, can be a positive thing, if someone only involves pleasure in it, to pamper ourselves, by involving a little betting in it. so in the end, it all comes back to each of us and how we define gambling itself.
Controversy about the good and bad of gambling depends on each other's opinion, in general I agree with your statement because the decision to gamble is judged based on the purpose of gambling and how someone will handle the risk of gambling, gambling is not something that is forced and you don't have to gamble if you don't accept it losing funds in betting, wise people will gamble according to the minimum fund limit and just enjoy for fun because they have a reliable football team to bet on in sports betting, so as motivation to support their team in soccer matches, while gambling will have a bad impact on those who gamble without understand the risks of losing and betting high because you want to get rich from the income from gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: Russlenat on March 02, 2023, 09:22:38 PM
I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of "gambling is neither good nor bad".  That is really the way people should look at it.  It's kind of like doing certain drugs, they may not be bad for you if you do them in moderation and don't let them take over and consume your life.  Sure there can be some negative effects, but there's also plenty of positive effects (for certain drugs)..so it's really all about ones mentality of mental strength.
Gambling will never be bad as long as you do it not crossing your limits in gambling. It will only be bad if you make it as your only way to earn a living, that is too absurd to think of. And its always bad actually if you do gambling most of your time, and yet you still end up losing all your funds and become unproductive the whole time.


Title: Re: Gambling is Neither Good or Bad
Post by: carlfebz2 on March 02, 2023, 09:40:47 PM
I wholeheartedly agree with your assessment of "gambling is neither good nor bad".  That is really the way people should look at it.  It's kind of like doing certain drugs, they may not be bad for you if you do them in moderation and don't let them take over and consume your life.  Sure there can be some negative effects, but there's also plenty of positive effects (for certain drugs)..so it's really all about ones mentality of mental strength.
Gambling will never be bad as long as you do it not crossing your limits in gambling. It will only be bad if you make it as your only way to earn a living, that is too absurd to think of. And its always bad actually if you do gambling most of your time, and yet you still end up losing all your funds and become unproductive the whole time.
Never ever cross your limits and this would really be the key on which you cant really just able to experience some problems if you are aware on what you are doing.There are really just that people who do really

loves to go all in because they are really that becoming that impulsive when it comes to gambling.Its not bad if you are just playing occasionally for the sake of leisure time and entertainment but if you are already that treating it as your main source of income or trying out to be that desperate on achieving things then this is where things turns out to be messy.
Better stop while its still early or while you arent spending that much of your finances into this activity.