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May sound silly but has anyone tried meriting themselves on a discussion they start. I noticed that the option to merit a post is still available on a post we make, I wanted to try it out, but I do not want to default, so I decided to come ask first.

Is it possible to merit yourself?

No, you can't merit yourself. You will face an error that says "You cannot send merit to yourself". If someone can send merit to themselves, what's the point of the merit system? People would be easily ranked up even if they have shitposts.
If he would try and if it was possible to send, he would end up sending merit to himself which could be frowned upon here. There's nothing wrong with asking this.

Instead of creating a thread about it, why don't you try it yourself and see? I believe you have enough smerit to try.  Btw the answer is NO

Edit:
I just checked, you've 27 merits and sent 13 merits meaning you have exhausted all your smerits.

No, its not possible to merit your own post and its also frowned upon to merit your post from your alt account (meaning you gonna get negative feedback).

I have tried it several times but I was unable to merit myself.

Is it possible to frown about what is not possible? Only what I know some members frown about is to be meriting alt account with another alt account, I guess that is what you meant.

No, but all attempts at doing so are logged, and the accounts tracked in case they try to merit themselves from alt accounts or attempt to acquire merit in the black market … (kidding ... or not ...).

Conceptually, what would be the reason to merit oneself? I mean one could believe that his post is smashing and deserves a self-pat of the back, but besides some trip down the ego lane, the only other alternative would be to try to increase his merit counter per se.

Fortunately, it is not feasible to sMerit one’s own posts (I just checked my complete merit database in case someone had managed trick the system at some point historically).

Theoretically no. You would need to earn merits consistently to be able to gain smerits and a shitposter would not get much or any merits at all. And even if they did get some merits the count gained from meeting themselves would be progressively decreasing (2 merits gives only one merit).

That's what he said as well. The way you explained it, there are three accounts in question. You just need two. Your main account (_act_) merits your alt account (_act_ alt account). No need to get another alt account involved. The community doesn't want to see that, and it's a good way to lower your forum reputation.

No, you can't evaluate yourself as a merite. As well as exchanging it with another forum member for no reason. Merit is a utility assessment tool. If no one believes that the posts of a certain person do not deserve to be evaluated, then they will remain unappreciated by Merit. In fact, it is very easy to earn, and you should not try to cheat the system.

Even if it is possible, it is strange to give merits to your own posts.  :D
You made a post, other people will evaluate/rate your post, right? So, only other people deserve to give merits to your post.

I suggest you never try something silly.
It is easy to break your reputation in this forum, you must be aware that there are many members who got red trust by doing silly things. Always remember that give merits to deserved posts only and exclude meriting own posts because it doesn't make sense.

This reminds me of the the story of a lizard that fell from a very tall tree. Having landed, no one clapped. It just did a few push ups, nodded and crawled out.
As ridiculous as the story sounds, it could be likened to this scenario. It is better to just know for yourself that you made a great post, and wait for merits to confirm how great it was.
Criticisms and good replies/comments would suffice both ways, but if the latter is more than the former, then you made a very good shitty post and should do better.

No, you can't merit yourself, because, you aren't a lizard, you need people to confirm your worthiness and merit is like keys, it is not just handed to a stranger passing by.

Of course it's not possible and you must have known that by now. It's just a rewarding power and what better way to having the thrill of merits if not gotten from other users. Trust me, its something you or any of us would want to be possible. If you think merit is sacred now, it would be even worst should users be allowed to merit themselves.
The best is what we have now and it makes meriting a lot more meritable and users are challenged to better themselves by being more constructive in there write up.
Meriting one's self is a bad idea that shouldn't be put into context of considered.

I didn't try it myself because I know that's an offense and could be punishable but I think that function isn't available to merit yourself even if it shows on your own post.  Think it over in the first place if that's possible, would you merit yourself even though you know that's not how the proper distribution of merit is?

Besides, it's easy to spot to anyone else that you possibly abusing the merit if it's possible can send it to yourself.

On other social networks people sometimes like their own posts to later view them in the list of the posts that they liked, so basically bookmarking their post for themselves. Merit could have been theoretically used for a similar purpose, but it's limited to only the last 120 days, so it can't work like that.

Maybe we do need a "like" system parallel with merit, because it does have upsides and not a lot of downsides.

It really sounds silly it's self-serving and merits don't serve their purpose if the system allows you to merit yourself, I have not thought of meriting myself but there are others who merit their alt account but these are two different accounts on one possession, even if the system allows it, people will think that you are cheating because it's self-serving, as long as your post is visible and it is a good one here it can generate merits even if it takes days or weeks or months depending on the members who read and appreciate your post.

On your account no! There is no such feature that it can make it available but if you have other account or alts possibly yes but that is considered cheating and abuse cause meriting yourself (other forum account is prohibited). Not sure but this must be done by many to gain more merits and increase rank.

You just tried half of it. If you tried it all, not half you will see that it is impossible to merit yourself.

Click on Merit, type the number, enter, you will get a notification.

What do you mean by "self-merit"? If you mean from your account to your own account, no, and if you mean from your alternative or secondary account, yes, but it's disallowed since that other account is not permitted. Be prepared if you insist on using that secondary account since the Bitcointalk community takes the merit system seriously, and attempting to game it by self-meriting may result in severe results such as losing credibility, being reported by moderators, or even being banned from the site.

What a weird question haha
it sounds similar to the people who ask about the Bitcoin (Is it legit).

• No
  
• Alt meriting is also prohibited
• Enrolling Multiple account is Same campaign is also prohibited
• Merit Fishing is also Prohibited
• Asking for merits (Seems prohibited i am not sure but it puts bad impression)
• Account farming is prohibited

I don't think that you understood me correctly. I didn't say that meriting your own post from the same account if frowned upon (simply because its impissible to do that), but instead that he shouldn't merit his post from his alt account, which is frowned upon and will end up badly for him.

I wouldn't blame you though if you feel curious because I think I harboured such a question when I was starting out. As tempting as it seems, it ain't Gon be possible else like someone pointed, what would then be the point of the merit system? Doing such would invariably look like you saying "hey guys, no need to merit my work, I think I can do that all by myself, hehe!!" ;D
 

No I don't think self-meriting is possible, even if I see an option of such I won't even try it,

You probably did not read the complete post before making your comment. The poster clearly said that he doesn't want to default hence he's making the thread in order to hear from others but your response is challenging him to give it a trial which is wrong. You should have just answered and add little information you know about self meriting thou it's not possible.

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I might be right or wrong for referring OP as masculine gender  ;D never mind!

Have you ever found a similar case happening before, I mean have you ever found someone sending merit to himself.? The merit system is designed to reward other users posts that are considered worthy or qualified, someone will give you merit if your post is considered worthy. You cannot send Merit to your own account because the system limits it.
Thanks for asking this simple question, some users are still curious about how the merit system works because in the post history they made there is a +Merit button.

And what would be the point of the whole Merit system if it were possible?
It was introduced precisely so that you could exchange with others, for valuable posts, valuable information and useful information. Of course, theoretically, you can exchange all the way with your second account, or another person (collusion), but this is a fraud. And such an action will be noticed, after which it will be possible to get a negative trance. Or managers will no longer be allowed to participate in signature campaigns.

It is best to become useful to the forum and earn merit honestly. For example, to give advice in an area in which you are well versed, and others are not.

Typically now there's no way that you can make a loop with your merits and getting abuse with this, seems like you want to immediately rank up.
That's the purpose of merit which is give and take once you find a quality post why not give those merits to well-deserved content and the same with you. Once they find a good quality post created by you; there's a chance you'll get a merit.

Yes, you can merit yourself but you would need two accounts for it. A lot people do this on the platform and they get away with it. People own multiple accounts and once they get merited on one account, they send that merit to their other account. This is very unfair because it denies other people who actually deserve the merits.

It would be very helpful if measures were taken to prevent self meriting as I just explained.

If you can read what the OP is referring to, you will see that is completely different from what you are saying, the OP is not saying having multiple and sending merit to each other, what he is saying is that having just one account and after creating thread or comments, then you trying to merit yourself, not sending merit from another account.

I think trading of merits from different accounts is not allowed on the forum here. Having multiple accounts is allowed but you shouldn’t cheat with those accounts, if you are sending merits to each other, then you are already cheating.

It is not exactly self-meriting, mate. It's owning multiple accounts, from which you send merits to one another. I would not say that lots of people do this on the platform and they get away with it. Once, when merit system was only presented, that was an issue as far as I concerned. But this is against forum rules and nowadays there are a lot of people who make sure that this does not happen and report to moderators in case it is happening. Measures have been taken quite a long time ago and such accounts are just get banned.

The function and use of Merit is to appreciate other people's posts that are considered to have quality, as well as other people assessing your posts. Nobody respects themselves, it's impossible and its unprecedented.
What's the use of Merit Source if you can respect yourself. Merit system to reduce spammers roaming the forums, without an additional number of merits you won't be able to rank up, that's the reason Admin chose several Merit Sources to spread sMerit on quality posts.

OP didn't say about giving merit to multiple account, you will understand if you read OP again. Said about giving merit from own account to same account which is not possible in reality. Community members have already discussed this in detail in this thread and told the op how and why it is not possible to give self merit. So you should read this thread again and that will further help you to increase your knowledge about Merit.

Meriting your own posts is not possible. I believe if possible, that will negate the core value of creating the merits in the first place. People merit your post based on the ways they feel about the positivity it portrays in the forum and encourage you to keep doing that or do more

That's not feasible; if someone can merit himself, it will be incredibly simple to move up the forum ranks since, in my opinion, they'll just be flowing merits to their own posts rather than those of others, and they'll be sending merits to some of their less-deserving submissions. LOL When I first started using these forums, I used to constantly check my Smerits and wish I could still mail them back to myself so I would have more merits and rank up sooner.
When you were a newbie, you asked questions because you needed more guidance, and the forum members didn't leave you behind; instead, they did everything they could to assist you. Accordingly, I believe that asking questions for more clarification and guidance is one of the major roles that these forums play when it comes to assisting newcomers.

@OP it is an obvious question that you yourself can answer.  You just need to look at your post and see if the option to merit yourself is allowed.  You already have merit and you could have try it yourself if meriting oneself is possible  Honestly, sometimes we need to work on our exploration than just posting question that can be answered by ourselves.

https://i.imgur.com/kJhUcun.png

Nope it is impossible to merit yourself.

The purpose of the implementation of the merit system is for forum users to strive creating/making meaningful threads and discussions that would warrant a merit from users. With this merit, this enables these users to rank-up their forum rank the more they receive merits. If the system was designed to be able to merit yourself, then this destroys the entire purpose on why it was implemented in the first place.


Well technically, you can merit yourself if you have two (2) accounts that have merits to send on. But if you do not have any alternate accounts, then meriting yourself is impossible in any way.

That's funny, because that's what I asked myself 5 years ago or so. In principle you can click on the merit tab and even try to merit yourself, the only thing I preferred to ask at the time rather than merit myself because it could have been seen badly by the community even if it was an experiment if it worked and I got to send a merit to myself..


Yes, that is what happens. You can follow all the steps but if at the end you try to send the merit you get the error message. I hope this solves the OP's doubt.

Yeah....lmao
It actually sounds really silly you know what I'm saying? Are you just getting too used to the system already? Or rather too tired to rock-on that you're tryna think of ways to cut corners?? _{😹jokes anyways..}
It's not possible to merit your own self from the same account... You could merit yourself assuming you've got two accounts running, BUT THAT'S NOT ALLOWED AND YOU COULD POSSIBLY LOSE THE TWO ACCOUNTS IN A ROW... It's actually funny cus I thought of even more silly things than that.....and it didn't work

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It's good it wasn't because, the only once that might have been issuing merits in the forum would have as well be merit sources.
That's because, should OP harbour the thought in a scenario where such was possible, you won't be expecting anyone to dish out merit to you @OP when you are about meriting yourself.
Besides, it would be a slap on the idea of meriting as, you can't be the accurate judge of your own post. Your posts are expected to make impact on others and you can't tell how much impact it has made on me if your the one doing the merit as OP.
You might be conscious on efforts put in but that too is better said by those reading.

I believe @OP is talking about an account to merit itself and not by other account owned by the same user.  So technically speaking, the answer will be always a no.


If you are that curious and wanted to not be the subject of flame, then you can just create a thread on Meta explaining the topic you wanted to explore yourself before trying to check if self-merit is allowed by the forum system.  You can even publish the step by step procedure or make a video of it.  This way you can establish a proof that you are not maliciously intending to use a possible exploit but instead you are just exploring stuff for self-awareness. 

Appreciate yourself by correcting the location of deficiencies that need to be corrected, not by sending merit.
All answered send merit to yourself can not.

If you wander through these forums a lot, you'll come across one and two posts asking for the option to send merits to yourself.
In the meta thread there is the same topic that has been locked because the answer has been obtained.

That said, it's a good fishing effort.

To be honest i also curious too but never try it before although if we can merit ourself there is point that we will run out of merit right 2 merit = 1 sMerit.

Although the best things to earn merit just made a good post and report it to other member like fillippone [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed -  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412657.0

or DdmrDdmr he like bot earned 500+ merit in the last 120Days according the bpip  :o crazy hahaha

In my opinion, Doing merit yourself is seen as an attempt to boost one's ego and can also have a negative impact on one's reputation and trust in one's. My view is that instead of focusing on self-benefit, let's strive to make quality, informative, interesting and valuable posts for the community.

By contributing meaningfully, we can gain acceptance and be valued in the community, which is a better way, a more valuable way. and sustainable way to build a reputation. So, Let's embrace the values of a merit-based system and work to build a supportive and collaborative community that rewards individuals based on contributions and achievements.

If that was possible it would have been a big dent on the forum as most people wouldn't merit their ranks... The ranks are the obvious representation of people hard work over time.

I think that it is better that someone else merits you because you can not be a judge over your own case.  If we are left to merit our selves, then most people will score themselves excellent, even when their performance is average. But we improve when others evaluate us without being  bias.

Personally I like being criticized when I'm not getting it right. It helps me to work harder to improve myself. And of course I feel great if I do something right and I'm 8 being appreciated.

Advising anyone to use have a alt account with the main purpose of using it for self meriting ones own account is a very wrong thing to do knowing full well it's against the forum's rules of the merit system. Any member caught up in the act with evidence, the consequence is always an ugly one.
In every community their would always be those with deviant behavior as part of a whole.  For such persons they should be reminded that nothing hides under the sun for ever.

I strongly believe that there are  measures already in place  for such and if you should do some thorough check you will see some few cases.

This is why the forum has made it impossible to merit yourself and of the community find out that you have abused that privilege by using your alts to merit yourself to numerous occasions then you set yourself up for some serious condemnation. Although theymos has said accounts shouldn't be ruined for mere issues like posting styles or meriting record still we have users that'll give you the negative feedback without hesitation for abusing the merit system. You can blame them though because merits are meant to be award by external bodies for your quality contributions to the forum and since merits earned are one of the criteria to be included in a campaigns, it's wrong to default.

We have enough merits flowing on the forum that if your posts are worth to be highlighted, they can't go unmerited but in a circumstance that they do go unnoticed due to meriters not visiting that particular boards or threads, you can apply for your posts to be reviewed on the merit giveaway threads available and those who find them worth meriting will do the needful. You don't have any excuse to try and merit yourself when the forum has provided every opportunity to make getting of merits not hard for those contributing quality to the forum.

No you can't, and it is also not advisable to merit your alts in case you have, all these will act as an abuse on the merit system if some particular users concentrates on meriting themselves, then the entire system will appear being corrupt and it may not serve the major purpose for the introduction of the merit system, additionally, the merit system is not moderated does mean we should abuse it for our own selfish interest, we know what's right from what is wrong right from our guilty conscience when trying to do any.

Even if it was possible what's the fun behind it? The merit system was implemented because if someone likes your post he/she can send you and to restrict spammers from ranking up but if it was allowed then they would keep doing so this isn't allowed.

This is absolutely right and there are some members doing such thing just to rank up their alts also but it's clear that if post has something useful other members will also merit it so it's better not to indulge in these practices because you will eventually end up banning your account.

While it is possible to merit with an alt account, doing so is not recommended.
If you look through the Reputation board, you'll notice that there are threads open against those who were caught in the act of self-meriting their own posts using their alt account.


Suspicious account activity is constantly being investigated, and those found breaking rules that are frowned upon by forum members are constantly being exposed and punished, either with a negative tag or being banned.

I created a similar  topic last week and mine was borne out if serious curiosity  and no self meriting  isn't allowed in the forum and I think some few lines of coding could easing take this option  down and kill some tiny curiosity  in users mind.
It take amot of effort to grow an account and tye forum seems it doesn't have much  rules but at the long run users have created some rules and the moment you break anyone, there are possibilities  of ruining  your account  with a red tag which im sure jts one thing that wouldn't want anyone wanting to easily  try the self meriting option and I was shocked that on my previous  thread, I found a handful of persons who already tried out that feature but got some error note.

Below is the link to my previous topic about this and I think you should think of locking the thread if you already got the answers you needed.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5450913.msg62181188#msg62181188

I agree, however, there are many people who do not see this as a problem. Recall the famous liar naim027 and how he exchanged merits with his alternative account Dic3L0v3r.
Since the user cannot deserve himself, and it is not possible to do so, of course, opening a second account can easily solve this problem. Moreover, it will always be a moot point whether to leave him tags or not. I think this statement from the admin says very well that the exchange of merit is not a big problem. :D

I think you can but it's a long process since you'll be using two accounts. But if you have only one account of course you can't merit yourself. If everyone are self meriting, how this forum will grow? no one will help other newbie since you can reply to other post with no sense or what we called shitpost and instantly gain merit. If there is a chance that some devs on this forum make this possible, I will not agree because that's unfair

This is not facebook were people like their  own posts!

Of what  use is the merit system if you can give these to yourselves, imagine being a merit source and all you do is merit your own posts, then this system would lose its credibility. Besides the merit system was introduced as a system to fight the growing spam at the time and it did and also deterred spammers from ranking up to avoid future sig spans.