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Title: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Marcellin9 on March 17, 2023, 07:32:25 AM

To make myself clear, this thread is not about complaint or confusion. Actually, I am more than fulfilled to chase my financial goals. This question only comes when I stop to think about the deep meaning of finance-free. Whether you are young or old, man or woman, money is what keeps you live and live well in the world. Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: VRExpress on March 17, 2023, 10:07:39 AM
After fulfilling your goals and your life becomes boring that's on you, there are 100s of places around the world I want to visit before I leave this world behind, there are many sightseeing I want to see, nothing beats having the time to go on adventures and travel around the world, instead of making it all and sitting your ass down in your home, that's a boring life, with money you life shouldn't be boring, there are too many things you can do to make your day a good one.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Ucy on March 17, 2023, 10:46:04 AM

To make myself clear, this thread is not about complaint or confusion. Actually, I am more than fulfilled to chase my financial goals. This question only comes when I stop to think about the deep meaning of finance-free. Whether you are young or old, man or woman, money is what keeps you live and live well in the world. Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.


Life is more meaningful/purposeful when you serve the role you were created to serve in this world. The CREATOR of this World being a loving GOD put in everyman the ability/talent to solve a particular problem uniquely and the interesting thing about this is that HE made people to enjoy/love solving the problems with solutions HE has put in their heart and HE gives them sense of fulfillment in their solutions.

Now the problem with fallen man is that he made money his priority/god instead of his role in life. The malevolent being who actually rules over the fallen man used this to make alot of people abandon their role in life to chase after money. The problem with chasing after money is that you do anything possible to earn it...and that includes things you hate doing. Imagine the human eye abandoning its natural role to become s*ithole flesh just because of money..  . while always being in contact with fecal matter it hates to see... something the flesh around the hole is created for and loves doing.
Besides, when you serve your role properly it will be hard to lack as you will always be rewarded for serving your role properly. That should make you free financially.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Cantsay on March 17, 2023, 10:51:41 AM
Not everyone has the same goal in life and the reason why a person went after wealth determines how he or she will live the rest of their life after they finally achieved the wealth they have always longed for.
If you're the type that just wants wealth so that you can help others avoid an event that happened to you that wasn't pleasant, your life can be pretty much fun because you don't have to stop after been independent financially because you still have other goals to achieve.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: bitmover on March 17, 2023, 11:08:02 AM
However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.

The problem is that people often think that investing is exciting and fun.

But actually  ,investing and pursuing financial objectives is pretty damn boring.

You buy the same stocks every month.  The same bonds every month. The same bitcoin every month and so on.

You accumulate every month.

That's most of the time. Bull runs and the time you make money are just a small part of the process

Life is more than that


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Gozie51 on March 17, 2023, 11:51:39 AM

Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.

There are two aspect that your post is touching and one is the economic theory of human wants being insatiable and the love of money by humanity. For the economic theory, it is a fact that no matter how wealthy some people are, they will still look up investment and this is more glaring to what we see today. The society now has a standard for glorifying and classifying the level of wealth that people have and ranking which makes top ranks in society to strive to remain in the position. So because of the vicissitudes of life and it challenges people keep searching for more to better there lives and as you rise in life, your class strata increase and your needs increases proportionally.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: speedy963 on March 17, 2023, 11:53:50 AM
In pursuit of financial freedom we later realize that we are exhausted by too many things that burden us. As they said money makes the world round, and it's true coz nowadays without money, you can no longer survive in this world. We seek money not only  for happiness but for survival, in the end we became tired due to extreme competition that we have to go through to earn money.

Nowadays getting resources such as money to buy our needs is very hard, lots of competition and so many competitors. Not everyone has the same opportunities, but we are all equal on the fact that we are all given the same 24 hours a day. Saying that we are all in the same boat is nonsense, as I've said, not everyone is equal to receive the same opportunities, that is why it's best to utilize what you are good at or what makes you unique. This topic is closely related to getting lost in your way in pursuit of financial freedom, but as long as you keep your feet on the ground while holding your head up, then you will be fine.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Strongkored on March 17, 2023, 12:12:42 PM
It's boring, having to keep buying something that can make our economy better, keep saving until the goal of financial freedom can be achieved, keep working when other people might prefer to take a vacation and spend their money to enjoy life, but are bored because they are focusing on achieving financial freedom is the price that must be paid before finally being able to relax and enjoy life, especially if we are born in a lower-middle class family that does not get many facilities to be able to achieve success, so everything is a choice and every choice there will be sacrifices.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: maydna on March 17, 2023, 12:37:04 PM
I think it's normal because to get something, we have to sacrifice something else, and sometimes, we lose time, which is very valuable for some people. Maybe we don't need to work hard to make money, but sometimes we work harder than before.

But if we can divide our time well, even though we work hard, we can still enjoy our time and results. So if you are currently thinking about pursuing or looking for a way to make more money by working really hard, try to relax your work a little and just enjoy the time for a while. I think it would be worth trying because if we keep working without a break, we can get stressed and get other problems. The important thing is that we can divide the time well, and everything will be fine.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: naira on March 17, 2023, 12:40:31 PM
I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.
An indecisive condition due to economic pressure will be very natural and must be experienced by everyone. It didn't even occur to me to achieve financial freedom because what came to my mind to continue to survive was how to be able to make ends meet from day to day. I think there are many people who have been wrong to achieve financial freedom but they are still in the permanent job rule space. The portion of financial freedom is not standard, so everyone is able to create conditions that feel free. Able to meet the standard of living but not in the long run. Able to manage finances according to what you want but not completely enough.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Husires on March 17, 2023, 01:12:51 PM
Things do not come for free. You have to make an effort in order to get a result, and therefore the rate of that is what gets you to the result.
Financial freedom is a dream and you need to stop yourself for a period of two to 5 years to achieve that dream. You must reduce relationships and stop many of the things you love in order to achieve this dream.

After 5 years you can live a normal life. Therefore, the feeling of loss must be temporary, otherwise it will be harmful.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Rruchi man on March 17, 2023, 01:27:50 PM
Financial freedom is a dream and you need to stop yourself for a period of two to 5 years to achieve that dream. You must reduce relationships...
There is no fixed rule or path to achieve financial freedom. It is a journey that everyone has to find their way to getting there. There are principles to help achieve this freedom of which discipline is one, and then selective relationship.

Selective relationship means you should be careful and carefully pick the people you decide to be friends with. Some relationship can "make you", and other relationships "break you", as an individual in the quest for financial freedom, you should be able to identify these relationships so you know the one to keep and the one to run from.

Avoid people that do not add any form of benefit to your life and have only been in your life to take from you. Build more gainful relationships that have potential to be beneficial, relate more with people who are dedicated to financial freedom and not people who have given up. You can get financial freedom from an information given to you, hence you need gainful relationship.

But actually  ,investing and pursuing financial objectives is pretty damn boring.
You buy the same stocks every month.  The same bonds every month. The same bitcoin every month and so on.

You accumulate every month.
Some people derive joy in consistency, they find the consistent behaviour of accumulating fun in itself, the find pleasure in navigating all the obstacles that want to hinder them from committing to their investing. People are built differently


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: aoluain on March 17, 2023, 02:43:26 PM
Financial freedom is a dream and you need to stop yourself for a period of two to 5 years to achieve that dream. You must reduce relationships...
There is no fixed rule or path to achieve financial freedom. It is a journey that everyone has to find their way to getting there. There are principles to help achieve this freedom of which discipline is one, and then selective relationship.


I agree, everyone who is searching foe financial freedom is on different paths to achieve it.

I know of a guy living not too far from me who wrote some books on the subject or related to
it. He lives in a different time to everyone else, he doesnt have electricity, telecommunications
or even a car. He only relys on himself and nature to survive he grows food and refers to
himself as a hunter/gatherer of sorts. He is financially free!

The person who wins a €100,000,000 in the Euromillions lotto also becomes financially free.

Why am I not financially free? I have a car loan, a Mortgage and I need to go to work to
pay for all that.

For the working class person, commercialism can be an enemy


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Spaceman1000$ on March 17, 2023, 03:02:02 PM
The efficacy of money cannot be overemphasized, literarily we need money to survive, money makes the world go round they say. Well, I believe there is a certain age a person will attain that he needs to stop the chase for money, that's why there is a time for retirement.

 The argument has always been that, from all the creatures God created, it is human being that needs money to survive, that why you see the unending chase for money even though we sometimes get lost in the process.
the pursuit for money, even to our own detriment is an unending circle generations have come to accept as our reality.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: AicecreaME on March 17, 2023, 03:06:03 PM

To make myself clear, this thread is not about complaint or confusion. Actually, I am more than fulfilled to chase my financial goals. This question only comes when I stop to think about the deep meaning of finance-free. Whether you are young or old, man or woman, money is what keeps you live and live well in the world. Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.

Financial freedom is a great thing to achieve, especially in an early age. However, a day would come that you will realize that it is not just about the money anymore, it's about the little things that makes you happy. It could be your family, friends, pets, or even your hobbies. For me, you don't need to have a lot of money to be happy, you just need enough or more than enough, not a lot, just to survive and put food in the table while giving a healthy and happy life for your love ones, especially to yourself.

Inner peace is important, because you can't have it when you're too busy building an empire all by yourself while in the shadows, there are too many enemies that won't let you sleep peacefully at night.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: _BlackStar on March 17, 2023, 03:13:00 PM
However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness.
Only one, don't forget to be grateful and enjoy what you have got.
Everyone must have arrived at that phase even though they have been able to buy everything because of their financial strength. They tend to feel deprived of happiness because they feel that at least they have time for fun, their money is not able to give them happiness from within while they are rich from the outside.

Well, this is a common thing, but when you have gratitude and feel satisfied with what you have, then feelings like that will decrease by themselves. One important thing, don't be afraid to make other people happy even if you are not responsible for them.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on March 17, 2023, 03:43:07 PM
Everyone has different needs in life, people who have a large income, their expenses will be large too, and conversely, people who have a low income will adjust according to their financial capabilities. Financial freedom will be very difficult to obtain, and also I think everyone has a different size with the intended financial freedom, because it comes back to how they live their lives.
I personally want my financial freedom to be felt by my descendants, or in the sense of the word I pass it on to them. Everyone has a purpose, and one of my goals is not to let my descendants feel worse than I have ever felt.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Marcellin9 on March 18, 2023, 06:04:03 AM
Everyone has different needs in life, people who have a large income, their expenses will be large too, and conversely, people who have a low income will adjust according to their financial capabilities. Financial freedom will be very difficult to obtain, and also I think everyone has a different size with the intended financial freedom, because it comes back to how they live their lives.
I personally want my financial freedom to be felt by my descendants, or in the sense of the word I pass it on to them. Everyone has a purpose, and one of my goals is not to let my descendants feel worse than I have ever felt.

Agreed. I always think about this when I feel unhappy and tired. Personally I don't have any needs to satify which probably sounds horrible. All I think about is what to pass on to my kid, both materially and spiritually. I have come to the crossroad where life should slow down a bit. I have to put my kid in the first place.

However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness.

Only one, don't forget to be grateful and enjoy what you have got.
Everyone must have arrived at that phase even though they have been able to buy everything because of their financial strength. They tend to feel deprived of happiness because they feel that at least they have time for fun, their money is not able to give them happiness from within while they are rich from the outside.

Well, this is a common thing, but when you have gratitude and feel satisfied with what you have, then feelings like that will decrease by themselves. One important thing, don't be afraid to make other people happy even if you are not responsible for them.

Well, I hope these feelings will diminish by themselves. To be honest, I am grateful for what I have got but I don't feel the drive to only chase money any more. As a husband and father, I have more responsibilities and probably the sad thing is that nobody cares about me any more. I feel like all they want is money. They don't care how I feel and just take providing for them for granted. This is an ugly truth I can not avoid.

The efficacy of money cannot be overemphasized, literarily we need money to survive, money makes the world go round they say. Well, I believe there is a certain age a person will attain that he needs to stop the chase for money, that's why there is a time for retirement.

 The argument has always been that, from all the creatures God created, it is human being that needs money to survive, that why you see the unending chase for money even though we sometimes get lost in the process.
the pursuit for money, even to our own detriment is an unending circle generations have come to accept as our reality.

Exactly. But can we escape the reality ?


Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.

There are two aspect that your post is touching and one is the economic theory of human wants being insatiable and the love of money by humanity. For the economic theory, it is a fact that no matter how wealthy some people are, they will still look up investment and this is more glaring to what we see today. The society now has a standard for glorifying and classifying the level of wealth that people have and ranking which makes top ranks in society to strive to remain in the position. So because of the vicissitudes of life and it challenges people keep searching for more to better there lives and as you rise in life, your class strata increase and your needs increases proportionally.

What you mentioned is absolutely true. It's like a disease that we are born with. We don't want to be left behind or abandoned by society but once we chase the ranks in society, high chances are that we are deprived of critical thinking and free choice. All we have to do is live with it.





Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Cuenta Alternativa on March 18, 2023, 06:11:41 AM
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Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?

In my case, not really. I'm fine with just having my needs covered and seeing that the resources I have give me options. What is advisable for everyone is to get out of the cycle of indebtedness known as the rat race. Instead of living from day to day and going into debt, increasing expenses when income rises, it is better to build up wealth and take advantage of income increases to increase it. For this we have the fantastic tool of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: hugeblack on March 18, 2023, 06:28:50 AM
I am one of the people who believe that the principle of health and the family is more important than achieving the dream of financial freedom, or at least it comes first in the list of priorities, so it could be the last.
Therefore, your mental health is much more important than financial freedom, and the most important item in mental health is to live the moment away from deep thinking about what to do and what not to do.

When you feel lost, take a week off without thinking and you will move on again.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on March 18, 2023, 07:07:25 AM
*Health is the real Wealth*

The main reason why I am doing all I can to become successful is to take good care of my family, I am one of the few people who don't give a F about what others think about me, I am not doing anything to impress anybody, I want to look normal and be able to spend good times with my family, love is all that matters in this world, there are some rich people that become lonely after acquiring all the good things of life, I don't want to have it all and live my life alone.



Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: passwordnow on March 18, 2023, 07:21:01 AM
To make myself clear, this thread is not about complaint or confusion. Actually, I am more than fulfilled to chase my financial goals. This question only comes when I stop to think about the deep meaning of finance-free. Whether you are young or old, man or woman, money is what keeps you live and live well in the world. Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.
One thing that's being forgotten whether you're in a good situation and you're earning well and are already financially free or on the way to it is to become grateful. Someone who's not grateful for their situation won't really find happiness and find themselves very boring. But if you've been there, the hardships and suffering that you've gone through and you're finally blessed with a better situation. You don't forget the past that you've got and the experiences you've gained from it. And to those that are still on their way to this goal, still, be grateful because everything is going to fine and if you've been working hard and smart with whatever you do, you'll be there someday.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Botnake on March 18, 2023, 07:24:23 AM
It's boring, having to keep buying something that can make our economy better, keep saving until the goal of financial freedom can be achieved, keep working when other people might prefer to take a vacation and spend their money to enjoy life, but are bored because they are focusing on achieving financial freedom is the price that must be paid before finally being able to relax and enjoy life, especially if we are born in a lower-middle class family that does not get many facilities to be able to achieve success, so everything is a choice and every choice there will be sacrifices.
There’s nothing new to it. All of our life’s endeavors are also twinned with hard work and sacrifices. If you fail to do that, you will never achieve your goals in life and you will never improve in life. That’s the reason why people keep on striving hard to earn and accumulate more money to be financially free, to save funds while you’re still capable to live a good retirement life, and to give the best performance at work to receive high compensation. Yes, those things are really boring, but life leave us with no choice but to work hard and strive more so we can live with our dreams in life and live life at its fullest.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: jrrsparkles on March 18, 2023, 07:36:33 AM
I never felt boring whenever I am making money and most people keep running towards making money even if they are the richest person on this planet which shows what is the power of money and most people don't stop even if they have more than enough for the rest of their life.

Financial independent and making money is different in my opinion cause we can make money in different ways but only few managed to understand the system and excel in it by finding the loop holes of this Matrix just like Andrew Tate blabs. ;D


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: jossiel on March 18, 2023, 07:43:21 AM
I never felt boring whenever I am making money and most people keep running towards making money even if they are the richest person on this planet which shows what is the power of money and most people don't stop even if they have more than enough for the rest of their life.
That's actually the motivation that we need and we ain't rich so it's never boring to make money and do our stuff. It encourages us to do better and do more when we've got goals that we wanna achieve.

Financial independent and making money is different in my opinion cause we can make money in different ways but only few managed to understand the system and excel in it by finding the loop holes of this Matrix just like Andrew Tate blabs. ;D
Those people that have found themselves richer and wealthier due to their strategy won't share the details about how they've got there. They may share a bit of it but the entirety of it will be kept as it's their secret.

Well, we just don't stop thinking of ways for us to get to the top and all of us got the same resource and that's time. All of us got 24 hours and it depends on each of us on how we're going to spend that in making money.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: mindrust on March 18, 2023, 07:45:00 AM

To make myself clear, this thread is not about complaint or confusion. Actually, I am more than fulfilled to chase my financial goals. This question only comes when I stop to think about the deep meaning of finance-free. Whether you are young or old, man or woman, money is what keeps you live and live well in the world. Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.

That's the result of capitalism and it is not necessarily a bad thing. We never know when to say "enough". Everybody wants a bigger house, a faster car, more land, a better looking gf etc. When we accomplish all of those, we want more of them even though we don't really need them for our survival. The resources are limited but since the rich always want more of those resources for themselves, the poor will never get the chance to be rich during their life time.

In the end rich or poor we are all in the same pot, playing the same game. If you don't want to, you are free to leave the game. Can I hazz your stuff?


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: gunhell16 on March 18, 2023, 07:59:49 AM

To make myself clear, this thread is not about complaint or confusion. Actually, I am more than fulfilled to chase my financial goals. This question only comes when I stop to think about the deep meaning of finance-free. Whether you are young or old, man or woman, money is what keeps you live and live well in the world. Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.

Most people aspire to financial freedom, but there are also people who hold their financial freedom and are still not happy. That is, even if we achieve financial freedom, this is still not a guarantee that we can say that we will be able to do well. But in terms of happiness, it is not.

Maybe the best thing to do is to pursue what we want to do in life to be happy, because the more we pursue the money, believe me, the more money will run away from us.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Zilon on March 18, 2023, 08:05:17 AM
Making money has different effect on everyone. Also money can have toxic effects on people and its this toxicity that might result to a stressful and boring lifestyle after making lots of money. But to those with lesser or no toxicity has regards making and spending money they still leave their normal lives. There are lots of Billionaires who still leave happy and healthy with their financial status.

The aim of making money is to be financial independent but some sees it as a means of oppression and power tussle and it is  this mindset that brings about boring, toxic and stressful lifestyle. Reason been that the attitude that comes with this sets of persons scares people away and those who manage to stay around will be for what they stand to benefit. Finding true companionship might become a problem as well.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: DanWalker on March 18, 2023, 08:14:45 AM

To make myself clear, this thread is not about complaint or confusion. Actually, I am more than fulfilled to chase my financial goals. This question only comes when I stop to think about the deep meaning of finance-free. Whether you are young or old, man or woman, money is what keeps you live and live well in the world. Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.

Financial freedom is a great thing to achieve, especially in an early age. However, a day would come that you will realize that it is not just about the money anymore, it's about the little things that makes you happy. It could be your family, friends, pets, or even your hobbies. For me, you don't need to have a lot of money to be happy, you just need enough or more than enough, not a lot, just to survive and put food in the table while giving a healthy and happy life for your love ones, especially to yourself.

Inner peace is important, because you can't have it when you're too busy building an empire all by yourself while in the shadows, there are too many enemies that won't let you sleep peacefully at night.

This life has a lot of things to care about, not only money, if you have money without other things but you also are not a successful person, we need to balance everything to have a fulfilling life.

But I'm seeing our world going in the wrong direction and being pragmatic, money being put first, and without money, you don't have anything else. Without money, you won't get the attention of your loved ones, you can't maintain family happiness, and without money, you won't have health. Money is taking center stage and your life is good or not depending on how much money you have.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: 19Nov16 on March 18, 2023, 09:58:31 AM
Of course, many people get lost when they want to pursue financial freedom. I have also been tricked several times when I wanted to get rich instantly. In the past, I have participated in multi-level marketing from the drug system, but failed and the capital I spent did not return, then I have also tried several times. to invest in mutual funds and fail again, now I hope cryptocurrencies are things that can make me have financial freedom.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Fiatless on March 18, 2023, 10:33:50 AM
After fulfilling your goals and your life becomes boring that's on you, there are 100s of places around the world I want to visit before I leave this world behind, there are many sightseeing I want to see, nothing beats having the time to go on adventures and travel around the world, instead of making it all and sitting your ass down in your home, that's a boring life, with money you live shouldn't be boring, there are too many things you can do to make your day a good one.

If traveling and sightseeing make life to become meaningful, many billionaires or wealthy people wouldn't have committed suicide. Everybody is unique and has personal goals and aspirations. Some people just want to sit around at home around loved ones that's what they desire. Others want to party and hang out with friends in different clubs in town. While some people want to live a quiet life in rural areas.

The uncontrollable pursuit of financial freedom is not good because it can be disappointing and frustrating if it is not achieved. For me, financial freedom is your ability to provide all your needs without streets. I am not pursuing luxury or wealth, my main aim is to be able to earn enough to provide for the needs of my immediate and to a large extent my extended family. This is because the reason for the increase in crime and other immoral activities is the misconception that financial freedom is the ability to live in splendor.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Fortify on March 18, 2023, 10:35:23 AM

To make myself clear, this thread is not about complaint or confusion. Actually, I am more than fulfilled to chase my financial goals. This question only comes when I stop to think about the deep meaning of finance-free. Whether you are young or old, man or woman, money is what keeps you live and live well in the world. Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.

It can be quite daunting when you start to get serious about financial freedom and there are generally two aspects that you need to work on. First is learning how all the main financial tools out in the world actually work, somebody is making profit off each of them, you need to figure how how to pay the least on it and gain the most back. This includes credit cards, mortgages, loans, the stock market and much more. It can take years to pick up all the knowledge you'll need and you should try to find lots of different books on these topics, especially the stock market. The stock market is where all the richest people put their money to work and have it return an income that will be way better than anything you can receive from banks in the form of interest.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Darker45 on March 18, 2023, 11:11:52 AM
I also pursue financial freedom. But I will never sacrifice my life for it. After all, the very reason why we dream of financial freedom is to have a happy life. However, the irony is that in our pursuit of financial freedom, we often sacrifice small moments that truly make us happy. In the process, the means become the end itself.

I used to work with the government, and I was compensated well. It's a job worth sticking to. But I proudly left it when it grew so toxic that going to work means suffering. Some are willing to stick to it, choose to be patient, and sacrifice for the money. Me, no thanks!

Life is here and now. It's pointless to sacrifice your well-being for the sake of the money that is supposed to assure your well-being.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Kakmakr on March 18, 2023, 11:50:38 AM
So, there are a lot more you can win in your pursuit of money.

1. Quality time with your family
2. Your health (Due to the influence of stress)
3. Your religion or faith
4. Your personality (People change when they become rich)
5. Some people lose their old friends.
6. Your partner / marriage / girlfriend

People should find a balance in life.... spend enough time with family and friends ...but occupy the rest of your time to get some quality fun time and some time to rest.  ;)


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: siniminomorocomunisakito on March 18, 2023, 12:07:21 PM
I think preparation needs to be done because the cost of living from day to day is increasingly erratic, but don't overdo it. Let ourselves manage money, not money that controls us, even though it's a necessity. One of my efforts is by participating in several projects that have been provided in this forum. Honestly, I myself always try to divide my time in finding additional living expenses even though I already have a steady job and get a monthly salary which I feel is enough for me and my family.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on March 18, 2023, 12:14:52 PM
However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring.
This is the sad truth about life and the pursuit of financial freedom. It is never ending. Even when you achieve it, you still feel it is not enough. In fact, the fear of being broke again or financially dependent on others will keep driving you to become a workaholic. And that is where the individual will start to sacrifice their health, their relationship, their family and friends just to get more money. And in the end, they discover that no matter how much money one has (http://enlightio.com/reasons-why-money-cant-buy-happiness), it cannot buy back lost friendships, relationships, family, and love.

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I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.
I feel that the world right now has defined the purpose of making money which has driven a lot of persons to their early grave. I believe that the purpose of making money is to be able to spend time with friends, family, to do some real good (http://www.minimalismmadesimple.com/home/money-cant-buy-happiness/), live healthy and have a fulfilled life.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: ethereumhunter on March 18, 2023, 12:30:31 PM
Being financially independent and having enough is everyone's dream, but we must realize that to get it, we must try even harder than others. We do lose time chasing our dreams but I think it's worth it because we realize that that's what we have to do and we need understanding from the people around us.

If, in achieving that goal, you feel tired, bored, and even experience stress, you should stop for a while and look for a vacation to relieve that stress. We can get what we want and find happiness if we know how.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Yamifoud on March 18, 2023, 12:49:31 PM
Money is one of the most important things in our life today, we can't live and survive in this world without this stuff.
Some people will say that money can't buy happiness. Well, that was before but for now, money can buy everything which makes us happy. Because true happiness is when we got financial freedom which we can provide everything not just for ourselves but for the people around us. That is why we are working hard, working 24/7 just for the seek of making money to fulfill our wants and responsibilities.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Sterbens on March 18, 2023, 01:02:00 PM
This sounds like forgetting about your own health, keep in mind that health is an important thing to be able to do anything. The pressure or burden we bear is a natural responsibility. But don't rule out that you did it all to survive. No need to talk about financial freedom and the like, just do what you can do. don't demand things beyond your means. For example, if you are only able to make $10 today then that is your portion for the day. And don't allow yourself to force your will to end in pain, stress and an inability to control yourself.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on March 18, 2023, 01:36:41 PM
Money makes us live our dream lifestyle, but everyone has their own way of envisioning this money pursuit. Some people just want to live a comfortable lifestyle, nothing more, nothing less, but some people need a lot of money so they can live extravagantly. Apart from being born with a golden spoon—nobody made it on a plate of gold—it is really stressful at all times to make money because the truth is that you must work and devote the time that is meant for the work. Even gamblers take time to analyze their game before staking. Investors take their time to calculate before making a final decision. I'm not sure how you define "lost," but people don't just fold their hands and expect money to flow when they aren't working for it. 


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Wildwest on March 18, 2023, 01:41:49 PM
It is true as you said because we as humans never feel enough because what we get today is never grateful so we are always busy to create new businesses to be free from financial problems, nowadays there are very many successful entrepreneurs who already have everything in life but they do not stop to look for new things that continue to be able to earn money and this has indeed become common in our lives, So we as humans must be able to learn to be grateful in order to feel happiness in living this life.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Faisal2202 on March 18, 2023, 01:44:35 PM
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There is no doubt we are here for a purpose your question is more like a moral question. In which your inner self asks you why you want to run a race of becoming financially independent. Is this our main aim and purpose in life is that why we are created? I have authentic answers to your queries but those answers are based on my Religion Islam.

Overall, I can say some have determined the aim of achieving a financially independent life while some only want to flow in the river of life according to the waves' direction so that they could live happily by facing less resistance to life. Maybe my words are of no good to someone but that's also my fleet thought.

Some lost in the seek for money and some lost in the race of making more and more money. We should set a goal to achieve first, this will keep us on track, proper planning of money usage and where to invest it with proper knowledge are some factors to be kept in mind before starting the pursuit of money.

No doubt those who make money using wrong methods are always in pain and tension but those who chose the right way always remain in peace sometimes the opposite happens to what I said but that's ok, I call that situation a reset timespan for a person in which the victim learns the lesson and does not cross the limits of humanity and remain moderate in dealings


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: vv181 on March 18, 2023, 01:59:47 PM
People sometimes mistaken financial freedom as being rich and can buy anything they want excessively. Generally, it is known as to have enough savings, investment, and cash. The spending is below the mean of one spending habit. Where it goes wrong is sometimes when people wrongly set goals without careful planning and consideration. Such cases could make one easily falls into a rat race or simply because they want more and more money.

Personally, it is necessary to have a doable goals when someone setting up their financial planning, while they also need to keep the balance between their well-being and happiness.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on March 18, 2023, 03:48:42 PM
Everyone has different needs in life, people who have a large income, their expenses will be large too, and conversely, people who have a low income will adjust according to their financial capabilities. Financial freedom will be very difficult to obtain, and also I think everyone has a different size with the intended financial freedom, because it comes back to how they live their lives.
I personally want my financial freedom to be felt by my descendants, or in the sense of the word I pass it on to them. Everyone has a purpose, and one of my goals is not to let my descendants feel worse than I have ever felt.

Agreed. I always think about this when I feel unhappy and tired. Personally I don't have any needs to satify which probably sounds horrible. All I think about is what to pass on to my kid, both materially and spiritually. I have come to the crossroad where life should slow down a bit. I have to put my kid in the first place.

Teaching the best and giving the best to children is a good thing because this is also a form of responsibility that we bear as parents, so we should give this to our children.
But on the other hand, we also need to have our own limitations because giving the best to children can also be wrong because basically children also end up getting used to being spoiled so there needs to be other education so that children can become individuals who can be like us and even have to be more independent. . this is so of course he can live his life better.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Yatsan on March 18, 2023, 03:52:48 PM
Not surprising. Financial freedom won't be achieved in a single year even if you have a decent job. Being financially free means uou are not worry of any amount of expenses. Unless you'd be on executive position in a company which could give you a well compensated salary. But most of the time, financial freedom could be accessed through businesses or other investments. But since we are talking about investments, uncertainty is tied with the concept itself; being uncertain of profit to be earned. Risk will always be present. But that is how things are being done. You need to embrace the risk in order to achieve freedom not only financially but also with other aspects of an individual.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: jrrsparkles on March 18, 2023, 03:59:31 PM
I never felt boring whenever I am making money and most people keep running towards making money even if they are the richest person on this planet which shows what is the power of money and most people don't stop even if they have more than enough for the rest of their life.
That's actually the motivation that we need and we ain't rich so it's never boring to make money and do our stuff. It encourages us to do better and do more when we've got goals that we wanna achieve.

Financial independent and making money is different in my opinion cause we can make money in different ways but only few managed to understand the system and excel in it by finding the loop holes of this Matrix just like Andrew Tate blabs. ;D
Those people that have found themselves richer and wealthier due to their strategy won't share the details about how they've got there. They may share a bit of it but the entirety of it will be kept as it's their secret.

Well, we just don't stop thinking of ways for us to get to the top and all of us got the same resource and that's time. All of us got 24 hours and it depends on each of us on how we're going to spend that in making money.

Only very few individuals managed to get richer on their own but talking about majority they are getting richer by sucking the efforts of working class and we used to that system and our system also designed in a way like study well and get a good job then retire which is created by the existing rich community and they keep this under control for the last 2 or 3 centuries, it seems like talking about conspiracy but that is what the reality if we think in the wider sense.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: tygeade on March 19, 2023, 06:15:45 AM
This life has a lot of things to care about, not only money, if you have money without other things but you also are not a successful person, we need to balance everything to have a fulfilling life.

But I'm seeing our world going in the wrong direction and being pragmatic, money being put first, and without money, you don't have anything else. Without money, you won't get the attention of your loved ones, you can't maintain family happiness, and without money, you won't have health. Money is taking center stage and your life is good or not depending on how much money you have.
That is true, money is not the "most" important thing, but I disagree with people who keep saying that money doesn't bring happiness for example. Because, I rather be rich and be like this then not rich and exactly who I am today.

I mean think about it, do you think poor people don't have issues? Non money related stuff as well, don't you think they have health issues? Love issues? Child issues? Job issues? They have so many issues in their life AND they are poor, for example I had a loved one passed away last year, or cancer on someone else (thank god she is better) or my own health or million other things. I rather be rich and have the same issues instead of being poor and still have issues anyway. If you offer me NO issues at all and be poor then yes I would prefer that but us poor people have issues too.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: ilovealtcoins on March 19, 2023, 08:47:01 AM
Yes, I'm feeling lost and depressed in pursuit of my financial freedom goals, what I'm doing is seen by others as bullshit and a waste of time, so I'm almost alone, with no one to accompany me. But I still believe in the path I have chosen, one day those people will have to apologize to me for their current attitude.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: bayudndy on March 19, 2023, 08:55:07 AM
Sometimes we need to see things more positively in life, like the former admitting that I was a poor person. Literally poor in terms of money, knowledge, health,... And even now, even though things have changed a bit, I find that I am still poor in those things, because rich or poor are still happy. and comfortable life going on. Freedom for you may be losing its essence, you just understand that you are free in another bigger birdcage.
The message that I hope you can feel here is satisfaction, gratitude, and humility, appreciating what is and isn't.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Kodok Bencot on March 19, 2023, 09:25:41 AM
Of course a lot of effort has been made by many people to achieve success or financial freedom, of course many people have succeeded and many have failed, I am currently around 30 years old and I plan to have passive income or freedom at the age of 35 or 5 years, this because I'm tired of work activities and have to jam on the road so many things are missed in my life.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: DanWalker on March 19, 2023, 02:56:20 PM
This life has a lot of things to care about, not only money, if you have money without other things but you also are not a successful person, we need to balance everything to have a fulfilling life.

But I'm seeing our world going in the wrong direction and being pragmatic, money being put first, and without money, you don't have anything else. Without money, you won't get the attention of your loved ones, you can't maintain family happiness, and without money, you won't have health. Money is taking center stage and your life is good or not depending on how much money you have.
That is true, money is not the "most" important thing, but I disagree with people who keep saying that money doesn't bring happiness for example. Because, I rather be rich and be like this then not rich and exactly who I am today.

I mean think about it, do you think poor people don't have issues? Non money related stuff as well, don't you think they have health issues? Love issues? Child issues? Job issues? They have so many issues in their life AND they are poor, for example I had a loved one passed away last year, or cancer on someone else (thank god she is better) or my own health or million other things. I rather be rich and have the same issues instead of being poor and still have issues anyway. If you offer me NO issues at all and be poor then yes I would prefer that but us poor people have issues too.

To put it bluntly, money can buy everything in today's society, it sounds harsh but I think it's true. I totally agree with what you said, I don't believe that someone living in poverty will have happiness or good health. In today's love, a man without money and power will never be able to compete with a man with money and power. If a poor person spends most of his day working, how can it be said that he is in good health?
Meanwhile, people with money use the money to hire others to work for them, and they spend time taking care of their health and spending time with loved ones...there are too many things money can buy.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: alastantiger on March 19, 2023, 08:25:51 PM
Yes, I have felt that way. In fact I am in that situation presently. Having to work 12 hours everyday at a job I hate with everything in me just because I want to have enough to feed myself, my family and still enough in the bank. I return everyday with one bodily pain or anxiety. If I had the power, if I could I would retire to the suburbs in a lake house where I wouldn't care for anything else in the world other than just enjoying peaceful nature. But then, this is not the case. Just two weeks ago, a colleague slumped and died at work. It didn't take up to two days, he was replaced. I was sick to my stomach because of it. Because we want to be free and financially independent.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Unbunplease on March 19, 2023, 08:52:05 PM
Unfortunately, freedom and financial independence in modern society are quite ephemeral. For example, at any moment sanctions can be imposed against any country - and the established business can collapse overnight. Any bank can freeze your funds for any reason.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: blockman on March 19, 2023, 08:54:54 PM
when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring.
Why so?
Someone who's got a lot of money got a lot of freedom and can do almost everything he'd want because of what he's got. I wouldn't find myself in a boring situation or stressful life when I make a lot of money. I know how to spend it well and I know how to put a part of it into investments.
That's the part which is more fun because you see what you've worked hard for and you don't want any penny of it to be spent that you won't enjoy. Sometimes there could be things that we'd spent on worthless, useless, and nonsense things but that's it. You just have to appreciate what you've got and find a way to spend it wisely.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: kryptocanon on March 19, 2023, 09:05:41 PM
This has occurred to me many times and still happening even. At times, I felt lost, and disorganized, and made me procrastinate a lot. But at that, I never let it knock me down as I always get back up again. I try not to give up because I have family who depends on me. Crypto has given me more money than my salary or any other investment ever did. So I'm confident that the same crypto would take me to the peak of my goals someday and I will be wealthy.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Fortify on March 19, 2023, 09:23:35 PM

To make myself clear, this thread is not about complaint or confusion. Actually, I am more than fulfilled to chase my financial goals. This question only comes when I stop to think about the deep meaning of finance-free. Whether you are young or old, man or woman, money is what keeps you live and live well in the world. Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.

You definitely need to find a fair balance and a happy medium if you've found the magic ingredients to financial success. You should definitely spend money on important things, like travelling or any hobbies, going for meals out or entertainment like comedy shows. There are some people out there who scrim and scrape every single penny, sometimes at the expense of the people around them, in order to be "financially free", however they then realize they are 45 years old with creaking bones and aching muscles, who no longer have the energy to do all the things they had dreamed of doing with this freedom. You need to live in the moment and explore all the beautiful things life has to offer, which is not all about money.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Viscore on March 19, 2023, 10:05:39 PM
In pursuit of financial freedom we later realize that we are exhausted by too many things that burden us. As they said money makes the world round, and it's true coz nowadays without money, you can no longer survive in this world. We seek money not only  for happiness but for survival, in the end we became tired due to extreme competition that we have to go through to earn money.

Nowadays getting resources such as money to buy our needs is very hard, lots of competition and so many competitors. Not everyone has the same opportunities, but we are all equal on the fact that we are all given the same 24 hours a day. Saying that we are all in the same boat is nonsense, as I've said, not everyone is equal to receive the same opportunities, that is why it's best to utilize what you are good at or what makes you unique. This topic is closely related to getting lost in your way in pursuit of financial freedom, but as long as you keep your feet on the ground while holding your head up, then you will be fine.
Money, whether you accept it or not, is also the reason why we are still alive and actively kicking up to these days. Without money, you will find it hard to stay alive. That’s why people seek a lot of opportunities to earn money and later on tend to forget that life is not all about money. Money is just a single factor, and there are other  factors needed to enjoy and sustain life. But for some people who are eager to earn maximum profits and become financially stable and achieve financial freedom, then they will always struggle and end up seeing themselves tiring and exhausting. But in reality, if you only know how to balance work and pleasure, then you will never have to experience tiredness and being exhausted in pursuit for financial stability and freedom.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: samcoin on March 19, 2023, 11:50:03 PM

I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.

This depends on how everyone looks at the life and their goals in it, considering that not everyone has the same initial financial situation, as some people come to life from a wealthy family, which could make them look at the money as unnecessary thing because all their needs are met, while other people start from zero and taste the poverty before they build the life they dream about.
To me, money isn't the first thing we should look for in life, I see it as a result of something valuable we provide for society, so knowledge and experience are the first things we should be interested in, and earning money may be the result of leveraging these factors. However, I think we should balance between earning money and enjoying every moment of life, that might never comeback.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: dothebeats on March 19, 2023, 11:59:36 PM
There were times when I usually just don't want to keep money but instead just spend it. I get tired saving, investing, and overall just making money back then. But I realized, money runs everything; it pays for rent, keeps a roof above my head, pays for gas, and food of course. If I were to just stop making money, I would forfeit most of these in an instant and I will be living my life horribly. But yeah, good thing is, I got some motivation that I really needed to get going and here I am still, trying to make as much money as I can for myself and for an early retirement (hopefully).


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: speedy963 on March 20, 2023, 06:58:12 AM
There were times when I usually just don't want to keep money but instead just spend it. I get tired saving, investing, and overall just making money back then. But I realized, money runs everything; it pays for rent, keeps a roof above my head, pays for gas, and food of course. If I were to just stop making money, I would forfeit most of these in an instant and I will be living my life horribly. But yeah, good thing is, I got some motivation that I really needed to get going and here I am still, trying to make as much money as I can for myself and for an early retirement (hopefully).
Doing this over and over again is really exhausting and mentally draining, but once you realize that money becomes part of the needs everything changes. Survival nowadays includes money for everything, the basic human needs requires money and so on, the only thing that isn't paid by money is air/oxygen. It's really nice to have and early retirement and having lots of money from your investment, but the process of achieving that is really long. I also been to the point when I just wanted to quit, but the thing that pushes me is "it's hard to live without money". I have been through ups and downs in life, who else doesn't right? so I'm not worried if I were poor and could eat 3 times a day, but that 3 times a day requires sufficient amount of money in the end. Then I finally decided if I only needed money to survive why not go all the way right?


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: awik p on March 20, 2023, 07:42:19 AM
There were times when I usually just don't want to keep money but instead just spend it. I get tired saving, investing, and overall just making money back then. But I realized, money runs everything; it pays for rent, keeps a roof above my head, pays for gas, and food of course. If I were to just stop making money, I would forfeit most of these in an instant and I will be living my life horribly. But yeah, good thing is, I got some motivation that I really needed to get going and here I am still, trying to make as much money as I can for myself and for an early retirement (hopefully).
Doing this over and over again is really exhausting and mentally draining, but once you realize that money becomes part of the needs everything changes. Survival nowadays includes money for everything, the basic human needs requires money and so on, the only thing that isn't paid by money is air/oxygen. It's really nice to have and early retirement and having lots of money from your investment, but the process of achieving that is really long. I also been to the point when I just wanted to quit, but the thing that pushes me is "it's hard to live without money". I have been through ups and downs in life, who else doesn't right? so I'm not worried if I were poor and could eat 3 times a day, but that 3 times a day requires sufficient amount of money in the end. Then I finally decided if I only needed money to survive why not go all the way right?
impossible thing to do when living in a city without money. as said, we just need money to move, and the necessities of life are not just food, there are many others, especially if we are already married and have children. therefore we must be able to work to make money not only for ourselves but we can share it for people who are less fortunate, thus making our lives more meaningful. therefore we must continue to manage our finances and set them aside for investment, so that in the future it will be better


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: litepool.ru on March 20, 2023, 08:45:46 AM
op, how do you understand financial freedom?
Ask yourself again before, because here I see many people discriminating them excessively.
freedom? How are you financially trapped and constrained, and what is the way out?
Sometimes I find the problem is not out there but in each of us, we can completely choose everything we know or want. And here maybe what I understand is that comfort is no longer a social problem, it's just that we don't feel right with ourselves, so I've learned to accept whatever happens. That freedom I no longer feel burdened by various adversities.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: noorman0 on March 20, 2023, 08:56:10 AM
In essence, everyone wants everything to be "sufficient", but in reality everyone can give a different interpretation depending on their background, social conditions. For example, the older generation planning an inheritance for their children from an early age is a common thing that they think is more important than their own life, whereas today's generation is more pursuing a career for their own sake.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: ancafe on March 20, 2023, 09:40:54 AM
However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring.
Basically, all forms of investment that involve money have a high level of risk of losing money, especially when there is no knowledge about the investment you are making. While the bitcoin investment pattern has provided opportunities for everyone who wants to invest, regarding the problem of loss depending on how one can understand the investment pattern that is being carried out.

I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.
Acting beyond capacity often ignores instincts, unbalanced conditions that result in distortion should be the main thought to control a lower level of risk, you and anyone else will avoid losses when understanding the right way to invest, pursuing money and happiness are two things that are necessary considered to be more balanced, because both are real life that needs to be run and that's why balance is needed.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Minor Miner on March 20, 2023, 09:59:38 AM
There were times when I usually just don't want to keep money but instead just spend it. I get tired saving, investing, and overall just making money back then. But I realized, money runs everything; it pays for rent, keeps a roof above my head, pays for gas, and food of course. If I were to just stop making money, I would forfeit most of these in an instant and I will be living my life horribly. But yeah, good thing is, I got some motivation that I really needed to get going and here I am still, trying to make as much money as I can for myself and for an early retirement (hopefully).

As a man, I think most people will experience this feeling at least once in their life. Sometimes we feel tired, and bored with everything because we have to work all day to earn money.

Honestly, since I have a family, I have not had a minute to rest, even when I go to sleep, I have to think about how to make money, to be financially free...Sometimes I want to give up everything, but then I think about family, we live not only for ourselves but also for our loved ones. So we must never stop.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Inwestour on March 20, 2023, 10:09:28 AM
As a man, I think most people will experience this feeling at least once in their life. Sometimes we feel tired, and bored with everything because we have to work all day to earn money.

Honestly, since I have a family, I have not had a minute to rest, even when I go to sleep, I have to think about how to make money, to be financially free...Sometimes I want to give up everything, but then I think about family, we live not only for ourselves but also for our loved ones. So we must never stop.
You need to make this path comfortable for yourself, if you never rest and constantly think about how to make money, then this will not lead to anything good, since our nervous system must also rest.

Each of us has his own chapel, someone can withstand longer, someone less, but everyone has a limit. Therefore, it is very important that you have a rest, even in order to analyze whether you are doing everything right. Perhaps you need to reconsider something, perhaps you need to save less and spend more for a comfortable life.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: xSkylarx on March 20, 2023, 10:16:07 AM
There were times when I usually just don't want to keep money but instead just spend it. I get tired saving, investing, and overall just making money back then. But I realized, money runs everything; it pays for rent, keeps a roof above my head, pays for gas, and food of course. If I were to just stop making money, I would forfeit most of these in an instant and I will be living my life horribly. But yeah, good thing is, I got some motivation that I really needed to get going and here I am still, trying to make as much money as I can for myself and for an early retirement (hopefully).

As a man, I think most people will experience this feeling at least once in their life. Sometimes we feel tired, and bored with everything because we have to work all day to earn money.

Honestly, since I have a family, I have not had a minute to rest, even when I go to sleep, I have to think about how to make money, to be financially free...Sometimes I want to give up everything, but then I think about family, we live not only for ourselves but also for our loved ones. So we must never stop.

That's hard, but one of the causes of this is your job, I think, because it is not enough for you, like you cut it short every time payday comes, and for sure your work is stressful. You know you should prevent that because you'll have a mental breakdown soon. We are almost the same; I am chasing after money and I have a side hustle, so I don't have time for my family, though I have rest, but it is not enough to sustain us. But again, we have family to feed, so we should make them an inspiration to not quit.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: inthelongrun on March 20, 2023, 11:57:08 AM
It depends on the person. But for me, I am willing to sacrifice some years of grind in order to acquire the goal of achieving financial freedom. I am a person that can't see myself as an 8-5 worker until I reach the age of retirement. Lately, I mostly devout most of my time at home trying to maximize my earnings so I can invest more before the next bull run. I still have a life though but it is not the same compared to the previous years when I travel constantly from place to place. I really hope that it will be worth the sacrifice and that I can achieve once again the goal of financial freedom after losing it some years ago.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: TheGreatPython on March 20, 2023, 05:55:45 PM
have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.
Well, I think it depends on every individual's personal choices and ways of how they see and chase their dreams. It is true that we spend the most precious times of our lives in pursuit of money and wealth, and when we achieve that, we already have missed a lot of beautiful moments and times of our lives with our loved ones.

But, that's what a man has to do unless they inherit the wealth from their ancestors and live their lives only nurturing and increasing it so that they can live their life easier. We never have a lot of choices when it comes to either earning money or living our lives with our loved ones. We can barely choose the later since we have to earn to live life.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: South Park on March 20, 2023, 06:01:56 PM

To make myself clear, this thread is not about complaint or confusion. Actually, I am more than fulfilled to chase my financial goals. This question only comes when I stop to think about the deep meaning of finance-free. Whether you are young or old, man or woman, money is what keeps you live and live well in the world. Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.
It is because of this that pursuing money should not be your main goal at all, without a doubt as you describe money is important and this is something that we learn from a very early age, however many people confuse pursuing money with happiness, they seem to believe that if they pursue money the they will live their dream life, but this is not true, as some of the most important things in our lives can not be bought,  so pursue your financial independence but never assume this is what it will bring you happiness.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: freedomgo on March 20, 2023, 06:47:12 PM
It's boring, having to keep buying something that can make our economy better, keep saving until the goal of financial freedom can be achieved, keep working when other people might prefer to take a vacation and spend their money to enjoy life, but are bored because they are focusing on achieving financial freedom is the price that must be paid before finally being able to relax and enjoy life, especially if we are born in a lower-middle class family that does not get many facilities to be able to achieve success, so everything is a choice and every choice there will be sacrifices.
That is life’s inevitable nature. You won’t achieve your goals and benefit it if you don’t work on it and sacrifice to make it happen. Sometimes, life is boring and we may lost thinking if this what it takes to enjoy financial freedom, but it’s a given fact that if you want to improve and change your life, then you have to strive hard for you to become successful. Achieving financial freedom is never easy and is stressful, but definitely its something that is worth working for so you can enjoy life to the fullest.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on March 20, 2023, 07:18:48 PM
I am one of the people who believe that the principle of health and the family is more important than achieving the dream of financial freedom,
I embrace this your concepts, because its very obvious that health is the beginning of everything we seek, so therefore any of our financial pursuit most come to accomplished with good health, I believe that many people understand health the way we understood it, the one I really won't support fully is of the family, because a family problem is so ambiguous to the extent that it can not be solvable till infinity, so we need to be conscious of our health and with that we can achieve anything we need.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Casdinyard on March 20, 2023, 08:07:00 PM
Surely, everyone who's set their hearts and minds to a certain goal, be it financial freedom or anything really, will feel a sense of loss and confusion. I've experienced this as well most often during the early days of when I was working my ass of to get that paycheck and increase my overall net worth. I still feel it now sometimes. I've spoken to some people about it and a friend of mine, a really wise bloke if I do say so myself. Told me that it's something you feel when you've come so far from where you've started, you don't recognize the stuff you're in anymore. Think of it as someone who's walking a path that is never taken by anyone. At some point in the journey you'd be in a place that's never been charted by anyone, thus the place will look unfamiliar to you. This may cause you to feel some sort of loss in direction or whatnot, but you must take that step forward.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Davidvictorson on March 20, 2023, 08:08:52 PM
I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.
I'd be surprised if nobody has ever felt this way. It is part of the process. What I feel is everyone should have a strategy to achieving financial freedom that doesn't entail giving up your life and that of your family. The strategy should incorporate work time, family time, social life, personal life etc It is the sensible thing to do.
I am one of the people who believe that the principle of health and the family is more important than achieving the dream of financial freedom,
Well not everyone thinks family is important especially when you grow up in a country where the culture favours individualism to communal living. You live for yourself alone. But I get the point though because have a family is one thing that makes life worthwhile.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Marcellin9 on March 21, 2023, 03:33:19 AM
Yes, I have felt that way. In fact I am in that situation presently. Having to work 12 hours everyday at a job I hate with everything in me just because I want to have enough to feed myself, my family and still enough in the bank. I return everyday with one bodily pain or anxiety. If I had the power, if I could I would retire to the suburbs in a lake house where I wouldn't care for anything else in the world other than just enjoying peaceful nature. But then, this is not the case. Just two weeks ago, a colleague slumped and died at work. It didn't take up to two days, he was replaced. I was sick to my stomach because of it. Because we want to be free and financially independent.

I feel sorry for your story and your colleague. Sad truth is that your experiences are not rare or maybe common in many places all over the world. I know how that feels to be struck in a job for working long hours without any breath of life. Harsh reality divides people into different places where we could never meet each other, just like what you mentioned retiring in a lake house VS. working 12 hours every day at a job. We all know we'll die one day but don't when and how. The path to death makes us feel completely different about life. What can we do ? Not really much.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Reid on March 21, 2023, 03:42:00 AM
Well, most of the time the pursuit of happiness is the twin brother of money. It's difficult to find happiness when you have nothing in your pockets. If you want to travel there is money involved and when you visit another country you will also need a budget to do so.
As for this age, is there really an existing happiness without money being involved unto it?
I seriously doubt that. Everything now has its price, every movement we make has a fee, there's nothing free anymore in this world, and even a one piece of nail should be bought in the hardware store. Your neighbor won't even give you one.
If you have money, it's easier to say you are free. Those who think it's boring when you have a better lifestyle must have been enjoying it since they were young. As for me, I have lots on my mind to enjoy it if ever I get rich.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: xSkylarx on March 21, 2023, 05:35:14 AM
Yes, I have felt that way. In fact I am in that situation presently. Having to work 12 hours everyday at a job I hate with everything in me just because I want to have enough to feed myself, my family and still enough in the bank. I return everyday with one bodily pain or anxiety. If I had the power, if I could I would retire to the suburbs in a lake house where I wouldn't care for anything else in the world other than just enjoying peaceful nature. But then, this is not the case. Just two weeks ago, a colleague slumped and died at work. It didn't take up to two days, he was replaced. I was sick to my stomach because of it. Because we want to be free and financially independent.

We dont have a choice but to work. We have the same feeling and i do have a lot of hatreds about my company that i work for but i cant say it or resigned as we have nothing to eat for sure . I dont know until when we feel this but i hope that you'll get better too. I have a tip on you i am really fun watching documentaries it is better for you to watch also documentaries about poor people , dont have a jobs and etc as it can boost your emotional health and be thankful even if it is stressful


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: slapper on March 21, 2023, 06:59:17 AM
Well, most of the time the pursuit of happiness is the twin brother of money. It's difficult to find happiness when you have nothing in your pockets. If you want to travel there is money involved and when you visit another country you will also need a budget to do so.
As for this age, is there really an existing happiness without money being involved unto it?
I seriously doubt that. Everything now has its price, every movement we make has a fee, there's nothing free anymore in this world, and even a one piece of nail should be bought in the hardware store. Your neighbor won't even give you one.
If you have money, it's easier to say you are free. Those who think it's boring when you have a better lifestyle must have been enjoying it since they were young. As for me, I have lots on my mind to enjoy it if ever I get rich.
Cash, cash, cash - it's like everybody's top tune now! Indeed, it appears as though everything has a sticker price, even the humble nail at the local store. Makes me ponder, if money genuinely purchases bliss, what's the going rate? Can I snatch it on Amazon Prime with complimentary delivery?
Honestly, money may give some comfort, but it's not the golden ticket to happiness. Some of the most joyful people I know possess little wealth. Maybe we should re-evaluate happiness in our existence. For me, it's a hot coffee and a captivating book, a goofy dance-off with buddies, or adorable animal clips on YouTube. Who needs a swanky yacht when you've got a cuddly kitten?


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on March 21, 2023, 11:47:05 AM
When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness.
Contentment in life is an individualistic thing. I chose that expression very carefully as we all know that every individual has what tickles them. What catches the fancy of Mr A may look stupid to Mr B and so on. However, anyone with a modest view of life and its vain glory should understand that what matters most is living a life that cast peace upon one. Peace of mind is very critical. Family life is the best anyone can desire to have. Have enough wealth not to make you go hungry, take good care of your health and the rest won't matter much. Otherwise, one will continue to chase the vanity of this life until one kicks the bucket.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: soramon on March 21, 2023, 12:07:16 PM
humans will never be satisfied. maybe you've heard this sentence. I think it's better to live this life with gratitude. because the things we want will never end. every life has a purpose, so why not try to enjoy this life until we find that purpose.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: ringgo96 on March 21, 2023, 01:30:05 PM
All of us need money but not everyone can enjoy when he already has a lot of money, so in this case we need to find something that can release the burden that we have been going through, namely by looking for entertainment that suits our tastes, if the problem of money is not enough then we ourselves must realize that in addition to being able to make money we also need to enjoy, Nowadays there are so many people who are financially free but they can't feel happy because they don't know how to enjoy it.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: superman184 on March 21, 2023, 02:08:49 PM
humans will never be satisfied. maybe you've heard this sentence. I think it's better to live this life with gratitude. because the things we want will never end. every life has a purpose, so why not try to enjoy this life until we find that purpose.
Being grateful and enjoying life with what we have got is indeed something that everyone should do. But in achieving life goals, everyone does not have to be satisfied with what has been done because when someone is very satisfied with what he is doing, of course he will not fight more actively in his life so that better achievements will definitely not be achieved. he got in order to develop his life to be better than what it is at this time.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Fakhrulenclix on March 21, 2023, 02:25:38 PM
humans will never be satisfied. maybe you've heard this sentence. I think it's better to live this life with gratitude. because the things we want will never end. every life has a purpose, so why not try to enjoy this life until we find that purpose.
Being grateful and enjoying life with what we have got is indeed something that everyone should do. But in achieving life goals, everyone does not have to be satisfied with what has been done because when someone is very satisfied with what he is doing, of course he will not fight more actively in his life so that better achievements will definitely not be achieved. he got in order to develop his life to be better than what it is at this time.
it all depends on one's thinking, of course every human being always wants more than what has been obtained but if that doesn't make you lose control and motivate you in a positive direction of course that's very good but sometimes someone is too ambitious to get more so risking that which already exists so that it becomes his ruin.

in life it is very important to be able to maintain financial balance so as not to fall into things that will harm yourself / get lost, one way is to be grateful.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Mario Yamasaki on March 21, 2023, 02:28:17 PM
I'm still young and just got out of school for 4 years, and work for about 3 years, I don't have much experience about life, especially how to be rich with the capital we have, I'm currently focusing on raising a lot of money and then planning to open a trending accessories store in my city, currently I also sell online with a turnover of about 15% of the monthly salary that I have.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: DOH! on March 21, 2023, 03:09:06 PM
I have a family and 1 son.  I am the main source of family income and also a source of capital to accumulate in investing in bitcoin and crypto.  Ironically, when my purpose was almost determined, I had to use the accumulated money to spend everything after covid 19 because the cost of living and the money to pay for the work process also increased.  After that, it is a constant effort to increase work efficiency, you will lose a lot of time with your family and children. I go to work early and stay late, causing my family to have a lot of friction and my family to be even more conflicted but luckily everything was resolved.  I hope for a positive transformation in life to seek financial freedom but sometimes in life especially when you have a family.  it becomes more and more fragile.  I still have my will but obviously young people will be more motivated in terms of motivation, as well as better time conditions to achieve.  maybe


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: bitzizzix on March 21, 2023, 03:29:38 PM
I'm still young and just got out of school for 4 years, and work for about 3 years, I don't have much experience about life, especially how to be rich with the capital we have, I'm currently focusing on raising a lot of money and then planning to open a trending accessories store in my city, currently I also sell online with a turnover of about 15% of the monthly salary that I have.
That's fine, but you have to keep working and also open an accessories shop by hiring someone to look after your shop, and you can hire your own friends or relatives to look after it and keep it under your control.
here you get double income from your work and also profits from your accessories shop, you can quit your job if your business is successful and has several branches.
and I suggest you invest in bitcoin from a small portion of the profit you get, 5% -10% if you have two incomes I think it's very good and do it gradually for the long term and you can open a new branch or do business again when you get big profits during long-term.
and second suggestion. I suggest you make a bitcoin logo accessory and it's like you are introducing bitcoin to people, and if you have any questions with a bitcoin logo you can explain the basics and maybe over time you can also accept bitcoin payments to buy your accessory.
and with this I'm sure you will become a successful and wealthy person in the next few years, and as long as you have high enthusiasm, are consistent in doing it and are patient I'm sure you can.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Huppercase on March 21, 2023, 03:46:05 PM
I don't think I'm at that level I can think of something of that such, lost interest, never! I am struggling to meet my basic requirements and bills, and as a man, if I am able to do all that, I am contendent with what I have, I dislike anything that has to do with greediness but I have who actually on earth get tired of financial freedom, the rich people in our community still hunt for more money, look at Elon Musk for example, he became the richest man but was not tired to get more, he went on to acquire Twitter and the purpose is to get more money from free jounalism.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on March 21, 2023, 03:53:27 PM
Actually life is the name of hard work you have to work more and more, sometimes you will win and sometimes you will loss and I think that there is no one who will says that this money is enough now he will not earn more but instead every individual wants to make more money than this.

Getting boring with money earning is not possible but a man become bore when he tries to make money and he failed regularly.  Money is important for life activities but losing your everything for money does not sound good. A man who have more money will still desires to choose better way to earn extra income because people never get bored of getting money.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: uneng on March 21, 2023, 04:32:56 PM
However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.
Both situations happen where there is an imbalance in life. These people aren't using the pursuit for money as a tool to achieve happiness (that should be the final goal of an individual, accordingly to Aristotle). Instead, they are pursuing money solely to achieve more money, what after all makes no sense! Then there comes the boredom, loneliness and emptiness feelings, as nothing seems to have been conquered for real.

And the only solution for this issue is to change the way you see life, what you expect from it and how you behave during your lifespan. It's not so easy to change for better, because there are lots of negative influences surrounding us daily, especially on the media and internet.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: KaliLinux on March 21, 2023, 04:41:07 PM
After fulfilling your goals and your life becomes boring that's on you, there are 100s of places around the world I want to visit before I leave this world behind, there are many sightseeing I want to see, nothing beats having the time to go on adventures and travel around the world, instead of making it all and sitting your ass down in your home, that's a boring life, with money you life shouldn't be boring, there are too many things you can do to make your day a good one.
You are right and I have seen some celebs complaining about what OP is saying too. But as you said, there should be many meaningful things you had wanted to do when you didn't have the means (money) to do or visit those places and doing the things now you have money and you end up still being bored, then money wasn't the person problem, to begin with. I can't wait to get to that point I can get up and go by myself or with family and do things I/we wanted to cos we can afford it.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Obari on March 21, 2023, 04:57:42 PM
Nothing good actually comes easy and fir every success stories, there are chances of countless failures to achieving those successes. I wouldn't have to classify myself right now as being financially free but one thing I know is that failure is an inevitable process to success.
I don't think there are reasons why ones life should be boring after achieving a financial freedom height because you should then be in charge of your time and money and not the other way round and there are alot of things one could do in other to kill boredom which might include travelling,which at some point might be underrated but one of the best way to interact with your environment is to travel as well as explore the world, adventures like skydiving, mountain climbing, going to the beach and tye rest of them are ways of relaxing the mind and body while also having fun.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: BRINIRHA on March 21, 2023, 05:43:53 PM
Financial freedom is what we all dream of in an outline. And of course to achieve it requires more effort and hard work. do not even be surprised if we sometimes experience boredom and stress along the way to financial freedom. and that is the price we have to pay to achieve financial freedom.

to overcome it we must motivate and inspire ourselves. Continue to grow enthusiasm from time to time can reduce stress. and we have to think that when we have achieved financial freedom then we will even be able to freely use money not only for our needs but also for everything we want. thinking of a gift waiting in front of us can reduce the burden of stress that comes to us.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: el kaka22 on March 21, 2023, 06:32:59 PM
This isn't a forever feeling, it is a feeling that you get time to time and then you get that pursuit hype once again.

I have periods where I think "I am not going to live again, let me spend some to make myself happy" this month has been one of those months, I have visited to theatres and plays and watched concerts and all that ate good food because for the past 1.5 years or so so many bad things happened to me, countless, I am still happy because even worse could happen and even happens to others every single day, people DIE everyday, I am at least alive, that is good enough, but I just wanted to be happy. But in a month or two, I will go back to pursuing financial freedom again.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: bosede1 on March 21, 2023, 07:14:27 PM
For me don't be greedy with money that will push you to be involved in anything that won't give you peace in life. There is a certain level you attain as for this financial freedom that you will decide to retire and enjoy the comfort of your money. I don't know why I won't settle to enjoy after accruing much with a legal means and way.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: sana54210 on March 21, 2023, 08:42:15 PM
All of us need money but not everyone can enjoy when he already has a lot of money, so in this case we need to find something that can release the burden that we have been going through, namely by looking for entertainment that suits our tastes, if the problem of money is not enough then we ourselves must realize that in addition to being able to make money we also need to enjoy, Nowadays there are so many people who are financially free but they can't feel happy because they don't know how to enjoy it.
There are times when money can't solve your problem, and there are times when it can. I ruined my entire financial situation lately just to be happier and to be fair it sort of worked. I worry about my current situation of course, it's ruined and that doesn't feel happy and that makes me worry a lot, last month was a horrible month between many things in the world and in my life and I have absolutely no savings left and no money left and I have to live with my income hopefully and made debt etc etc, so that does worry me don't get me wrong.

BUT, I have to say while doing that, it also made me feel much better, I would have been an absolute mess mentally if I didn't do it, so I have no regrets at all.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Finestream on March 21, 2023, 10:35:59 PM
However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.

The problem is that people often think that investing is exciting and fun.

But actually  ,investing and pursuing financial objectives is pretty damn boring.

You buy the same stocks every month.  The same bonds every month. The same bitcoin every month and so on.

You accumulate every month.

That's most of the time. Bull runs and the time you make money are just a small part of the process

Life is more than that
Yes, there’s actually more to life than that. But since money seems everything right now, we could not help ourselves but to keep on striving so we can work more and earn more, and eventually become financially stable. And when you reached that point already, you still want to earn and gain more, which will make you think as to what life is really all about. I guess, for someone to be happy, just appreciate on the little things you have, settle on the simple things that make you happy, and not that will make your life become twisted and stressful.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: carlfebz2 on March 21, 2023, 10:46:41 PM

To make myself clear, this thread is not about complaint or confusion. Actually, I am more than fulfilled to chase my financial goals. This question only comes when I stop to think about the deep meaning of finance-free. Whether you are young or old, man or woman, money is what keeps you live and live well in the world. Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.
We cant really be that so sure if we do really be ending up on the time we do achieve that financial freedom that we are hoping for.For those who do able to get that point and ends up on getting bored and

wont really be happy anymore then this is a personal thing since each one of us does have different approach when it comes to things and situations in life.Good thing to have money is that you could do

whatever you do want since you are financially capable on which it wont really be having a problem when it comes to money.Personal contentment would be the issue for those people
who do still find problems despite on attaining this state.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: shinratensei_ on March 21, 2023, 11:55:32 PM
earning money becomes boring when you already could easily make them could be true, maybe you already getting tired of repeating the same thing, but know that there are millions of people that are living under the poverty line would dream of having fraction of the wealth that you have, of course earning money is always boring you're essentially working here, and it's not gonna be some entertainment for you but the most important thing is that you've got the money, the status if you have jobs, and you shouldn't worry about making your ends meet anymore. when you finally become rich enough you can do whatever you wants, you'll be living the dream life that you have and that's what's most important here, if you think you're bored, try some new things for hustle.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: pantek talacuik on March 22, 2023, 01:25:38 AM
For me don't be greedy with money that will push you to be involved in anything that won't give you peace in life. There is a certain level you attain as for this financial freedom that you will decide to retire and enjoy the comfort of your money. I don't know why I won't settle to enjoy after accruing much with a legal means and way.

This will only be an advice later because everyone will change with what they have done or are aware of what they have done. but humans have such a nature to be greedy and want to get better results in the future.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: btc78 on March 22, 2023, 01:53:59 AM

; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring.
I don't understand nor felt this because never that I come across this  ;D stress and Bored because of gathering lots of money?

Enjoy your life after having those , go around the world, Help poor people and give to those who in need , then your life will be fulfilled and not boring anymore .

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I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.
because people seemingly to not know or understand the meaning of why they are in pursuit of money , because if you does? then you will have your goal and limitation and will have the outlet when you gather all of those.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: kaseygriffin on March 22, 2023, 02:04:08 AM
Sometimes we realize that the freedom we think about is actually a different kind of control, I find that each person's personal finances will be different, and everyone's criteria for freedom will be different.
When you earn money easily and it meets all the activities happening in daily life, as well as can bring you good accumulations of money without thinking.
Just like myself when I set a goal to earn a lot of money when I was young and enjoy a comfortable life before the age of 30old. And indeed now I am very comfortable with what I have, and even without money I still feel freedom, liberated by financial constraints.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: DoverDoane on March 22, 2023, 02:17:45 AM

To make myself clear, this thread is not about complaint or confusion. Actually, I am more than fulfilled to chase my financial goals. This question only comes when I stop to think about the deep meaning of finance-free. Whether you are young or old, man or woman, money is what keeps you live and live well in the world. Being financial independent and sufficient is everyone's dream. However, have you thought about the losses in exchange for the material gains ? When you barely make ends meet, you'll bust yourself to make more money; when you actually make a lot of money, you'll find yourself in a position that is either stressful or boring. I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.


I also think so, there are times when we live for the sake of chasing money or rather living for money instead of making money to live, money is not a benchmark for a happy life, and of course there is even a lot of happiness that is obtained from everything that is bought by money , but when we feel grateful for the money we earn from our own hard work, to make ends meet and look a little back at the struggle in achieving that without looking at the value of the money we earn and comparing it to others, we can get happiness for the heart our little.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Kadal Ijo on March 22, 2023, 04:27:40 AM
At least I have experienced 2 failures or felt lost in the pursuit of financial freedom, the first was in real business because I gave up a growing business and I tried another business because I saw the potential for a new business to be good and promising, and the second was that I sold a lot of assets cheap crypto in 2018 if i could hold doge and sell it now then i have about $450k and i think its a great value.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: libert19 on March 22, 2023, 04:43:43 AM
You sound similar to Schopenhauer's philosophy. People often in pursuit of financial freedom lose their present (which is all there ever is), so all this chase appears fruitless.

What one could do is live in present moment, try to make right decisions in moment and let these choices unfold themselves. Living in moment is happiness, past/future is misery.

Don't burn yourself out after making money. Basic needs can't be escaped.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: palle11 on March 22, 2023, 01:45:20 PM
I wonder the purpose of making money can be easily distorted and sometimes we tend to lose ourselves in pursuit of money, instead of happiness. Just a fleeting thought, no big deal.

This is not just a fleeting thought but a serious conversation that needs to be indulged in . People lose themselves in the pursuit of money and this makes them do all sort of things. They can take the life of someone if they perceive it to be an obstacle to them in getting to the financial gain they are chasing. I see the ultimate reason for this as greed. In the business word, a business opponent sometimes is seen as an enemy and they are frustrated to go out of business like it is been debated between USA and China in what looks like a business or trade war.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: hyudien on March 22, 2023, 02:26:24 PM
At least I have experienced 2 failures or felt lost in the pursuit of financial freedom, the first was in real business because I gave up a growing business and I tried another business because I saw the potential for a new business to be good and promising, and the second was that I sold a lot of assets cheap crypto in 2018 if i could hold doge and sell it now then i have about $450k and i think its a great value.
You are still quite lucky because as mentioned only experienced 2x failures to achieve what you want. People out there are not as lucky as you, so it's basically a way of life to achieve coveted financial freedom. Even now, those who are elderly also do not necessarily get this freedom, especially in financial matters. The point is not how many times we fail, but how wisely we match ourselves with the financial conditions that can be achieved and place that portion of freedom in the context of our respective abilities.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: autumnleaf on March 22, 2023, 02:37:32 PM
We can no longer dispute the fact that money can buy everything these days, even your happiness. It's convenient to have more money because you can do whatever you want, buy whatever you want, eat whatever you want, and get a house or sports car, which makes people happy. When you have a goal, you work toward it and are satisfied when you achieve it. A human's pursuit of happiness is an endless desire. Simply follow your happiness.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Smack That Ace on March 22, 2023, 02:39:31 PM
At least I have experienced 2 failures or felt lost in the pursuit of financial freedom, the first was in real business because I gave up a growing business and I tried another business because I saw the potential for a new business to be good and promising, and the second was that I sold a lot of assets cheap crypto in 2018 if i could hold doge and sell it now then i have about $450k and i think its a great value.
You are still quite lucky because as mentioned only experienced 2x failures to achieve what you want. People out there are not as lucky as you, so it's basically a way of life to achieve coveted financial freedom. Even now, those who are elderly also do not necessarily get this freedom, especially in financial matters. The point is not how many times we fail, but how wisely we match ourselves with the financial conditions that can be achieved and place that portion of freedom in the context of our respective abilities.

I assume he just went through one failure, leaving his burgeoning business to find another one. As for the loss in crypto investment, I don't think it's worth mentioning because I believe that the people who make a profit in this market have lost hundreds of times before succeeding. If crypto investing is considered a failure, even I have lost money investing in altcoins in the past, even so, many times that I can't remember them all.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on March 22, 2023, 03:08:08 PM
For everyone now in the use of the digital cryptocurrencies would have experienced something bad with the traditional fiat system before joining the train of cryptocurrency, all these begins with when we cannot confide trust in their fiat system anymore, when it all seems there's no way out and we cannot have control over our asset because of their constituted authorities, cryptocurrency set in a change the entire play to fight for us and render the lost freedom back to everyone.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: SirLancelot on March 22, 2023, 05:49:49 PM
I think preparation needs to be done because the cost of living from day to day is increasingly erratic, but don't overdo it. Let ourselves manage money, not money that controls us, even though it's a necessity. One of my efforts is by participating in several projects that have been provided in this forum. Honestly, I myself always try to divide my time in finding additional living expenses even though I already have a steady job and get a monthly salary which I feel is enough for me and my family.
What do you exactly mean by don't overdo the preparation? I think there is no harm if we over do it but it will only make our lives even better for many more months/years to come. There are people who can spend on almost anything that they like even though most of those are not really needed or beneficial in the long term.

It's not that these people are being controlled or being a slaved of money but it's because these people don't have a control for themselves. If you feel your income is already enough then why will you need to find side line jobs? It would be better if you only use those time to enjoy yourself more or spend that time with your family, also to make them more happy.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Uruhara on March 22, 2023, 06:28:20 PM
working too hard sometimes carries a burden that continues to accumulate in our minds and mentally. so sometimes we must have felt bored and bored. and actually it is a sign that our psychology is too tired and needs a holiday by making fun. and if it is allowed then it can make us become stressed.

sometimes I get too focused on raising more money and forget to reward myself. whether it be a vacation or other pleasures. so sometimes there is a point where I am lazy to do anything. which means I have been mentally exhausted. but I always overcome it by going on vacations or taking time to have fun. so that my mood is good again and more excited to pursue my goal of financial freedom.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: virasisog on March 22, 2023, 06:32:50 PM
I think preparation needs to be done because the cost of living from day to day is increasingly erratic, but don't overdo it. Let ourselves manage money, not money that controls us, even though it's a necessity. One of my efforts is by participating in several projects that have been provided in this forum. Honestly, I myself always try to divide my time in finding additional living expenses even though I already have a steady job and get a monthly salary which I feel is enough for me and my family.
What do you exactly mean by don't overdo the preparation? I think there is no harm if we over do it but it will only make our lives even better for many more months/years to come. There are people who can spend on almost anything that they like even though most of those are not really needed or beneficial in the long term.

It's not that these people are being controlled or being a slaved of money but it's because these people don't have a control for themselves. If you feel your income is already enough then why will you need to find side line jobs? It would be better if you only use those time to enjoy yourself more or spend that time with your family, also to make them more happy.

Our preparation usually depends on our goal. There are people who are contented in earning enough to sustain their living while others are more motivated to grind and work harder to save more to afford what they want in the future. I see nothing wrong with over-preparation as long as we know how to manage our time and balance everything including our health.
In the current economic situation, we have right now, it is not ideal to be just contented because we still don't know what tomorrow may bring so it's better to have enough savings for emergency purposes in the future.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Davian144 on March 22, 2023, 06:58:10 PM
We can no longer dispute the fact that money can buy everything these days, even your happiness. It's convenient to have more money because you can do whatever you want, buy whatever you want, eat whatever you want, and get a house or sports car, which makes people happy. When you have a goal, you work toward it and are satisfied when you achieve it. A human's pursuit of happiness is an endless desire. Simply follow your happiness.
It's true that on average people will find it easier to find happiness if they have lots of money because they can buy whatever they want like you said. Even if someone has problems in his life while he has a lot of money, he will also find it easier to solve these problems and will not drag on for too long in sadness. This means that money is part of the happiness of all people in this world, so there is no reason to keep away from making money through working regularly every day.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Sanitough on March 22, 2023, 08:46:00 PM
Actually life is the name of hard work you have to work more and more, sometimes you will win and sometimes you will loss and I think that there is no one who will says that this money is enough now he will not earn more but instead every individual wants to make more money than this.

Getting boring with money earning is not possible but a man become bore when he tries to make money and he failed regularly.  Money is important for life activities but losing your everything for money does not sound good. A man who have more money will still desires to choose better way to earn extra income because people never get bored of getting money.
Man in nature has no life’s satisfaction nor contentment, especially when money is involved. He will always want to chase for more opportunities to gain more money so he can earn more until financial stability is achieved. Although we can’t say the process is all smooth, as there are some pitfalls along the road, but if it’s for money, man will do everything until he eventually feel lost in pursuit of financial freedom. And that’s when we start thinking if man lives for money, or man should live for happiness. Because the reality is, we only feel the happiness inside when everything is good especially with money matters.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on March 22, 2023, 09:32:17 PM
For everyone now in the use of the digital cryptocurrencies would have experienced something bad with the traditional fiat system before joining the train of cryptocurrency, all these begins with when we cannot confide trust in their fiat system anymore, when it all seems there's no way out and we cannot have control over our asset because of their constituted authorities, cryptocurrency set in a change the entire play to fight for us and render the lost freedom back to everyone.
But in the end we still can't go against the traditional fiat system if crypto is banned in our country, it must be admitted that the system that existed before was really bad and did not provide a basis for creating financial freedom, starting from not being able to maintain value and the impact of inflation greatly affected the currency Fiats ever existed.

While bitcoin offers differences from existing systems and most importantly bitcoin can retain the value of the investment and we have full control over the assets we own, these are the real advantages offered by bitcoin.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: harapan on March 22, 2023, 09:41:04 PM
Things do not come for free. You have to make an effort in order to get a result, and therefore the rate of that is what gets you to the result.
Financial freedom is a dream and you need to stop yourself for a period of two to 5 years to achieve that dream. You must reduce relationships and stop many of the things you love in order to achieve this dream.

After 5 years you can live a normal life. Therefore, the feeling of loss must be temporary, otherwise it will be harmful.

I don't think its as easy as that. Stopping yourself for a period of two to five years won't help you achieve your dream of financial freedom. If it were that easy everybody would do it. Avoiding relationships and stopping many of the things you love is exactly the reason you get lost in the pursuit of financial freedom. While you pursuit financial freedom, try to live a normal life, have a life. Enjoy the moment. I don't believe in order for you achieve financial freedom then you wont have a life.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: fuer44 on March 22, 2023, 10:50:29 PM
Everything has consequences,
Working hard = Big income
But time to enjoy free time is reduced due to busy work or business. Work with middle to lower salary levels even though they time for work is same, but at home you can still rest and weekends will be free but the income is not big. Although there are also those who build up a business, then later he hands over all work to employees and people he trusts so he has free time.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: suzanne5223 on March 22, 2023, 11:27:22 PM
I believe every person that's a self-made millionaire or billionaire that we are seeing today has once felt lost in their pursuit of a dream or financial freedom. What matter is how you solve the issues by learning from the previous mistake made and working on the solution of getting it right. We need to know that nothing comes easy. Everything in life is hard even eating is hard, I have seen someone that die just by eating food but it depends on how you choose your hard.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Marcellin9 on March 23, 2023, 02:14:11 AM
Things do not come for free. You have to make an effort in order to get a result, and therefore the rate of that is what gets you to the result.
Financial freedom is a dream and you need to stop yourself for a period of two to 5 years to achieve that dream. You must reduce relationships and stop many of the things you love in order to achieve this dream.

After 5 years you can live a normal life. Therefore, the feeling of loss must be temporary, otherwise it will be harmful.

I don't think its as easy as that. Stopping yourself for a period of two to five years won't help you achieve your dream of financial freedom. If it were that easy everybody would do it. Avoiding relationships and stopping many of the things you love is exactly the reason you get lost in the pursuit of financial freedom. While you pursuit financial freedom, try to live a normal life, have a life. Enjoy the moment. I don't believe in order for you achieve financial freedom then you wont have a life.

Fair enough. Stopping for a few years won't help most of us achieve financial freedom but will sacrifice a normal life that anyone should have built. Actually I have been through that period, knowing exactly what it was like. I did not become financially free, although I made pretty good savings, in contrast, I lost so much time and effort that should be spent in building relationships with my family and friends.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Sir Legend on March 23, 2023, 02:29:47 AM
There are many ways to achieve financial freedom, most of what people do is do business or join a franchise, but all of them need expertise and a good financial system, if we are still poor and finances are still small then it's better to invest, bitcoin and cryptocurrencies is a good opportunity to earn big profits and even financial freedom because the price has the opportunity to skyrocket in the future.


Title: Re: Has anyone felt lost in pursuit of financial freedom ?
Post by: Gallar on March 23, 2023, 02:56:14 AM
actually what we are after is the main point is not money, but happiness.
having a lot of money but not having happiness is meaningless and empty.
not all happiness comes from money, many things can make us happy.
just try to find or remember, there are many rich people, popular people who end their lives by committing suicide, even though if you look at their money a lot, their popularity is very good, but why can't they be happy.

That way you can also understand that money is not a source of happiness, but one that can be happiness.