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Title: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: MainIbem on March 22, 2023, 06:17:35 PM
Greetings mates.
I have been inconsistent for awhile now I know have missed lots of update around the forum and concerning the latest happening within the cryptospace. I have thought of changing my password reason being that I am no longer secure with it, I don't know what happened to my browser in my absence for the number of days I wasn't active, usually I don't really give attention to the forum due to family challenges includes wife, children and parents. Also noticed I lost access to my email used in registering my account I have thought of changing it as well but something in me kept saying don't change while my instinct keep telling me to change it, I have tried to recover email happens but that the mobile number I used wasn't there I know the stress involved while trying to retrieve my stolen line so alternatively changing mail will be the best option for me currently. So I thought of posting here to know if i am that free to make any changes or i should continue using it that way without any changes.

My question is; what will be my fate if I can't have access to my btt account and then what about my mail I don't have access to. Please let experts update me based on this issues.

I love you all.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: Pokapoka124 on March 22, 2023, 06:40:29 PM
I don’t see reason why you have to make it public that you want to change your password/email. You should definitely change your email and password if you have reason to believe they have been compromised. There is no rule that says you can’t change your password or email, but it raises a eyebrow that the account may be bought/hacked. If an accusation ever comes up, you can sign a message from your old bitcoin address to prove account ownership hasn’t changed. You have been here long enough to know this.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: OgNasty on March 22, 2023, 07:18:53 PM
It probably isn’t the worst idea to make a little comment somewhere before changing your password and changing emails is a pretty good sign an account has been sold or hacked.

I only say to mention changing your password in advance because you never know who is watching and might jump to conclusions. This thread was created last time I updated my password.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5444952.0


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: Adbitco on March 22, 2023, 07:27:47 PM
Changing password is good but something most of the members here might gets you tag for either account changed ownership or sold out so what you did isn't bad but maybe when next you don't have to make a public announcement.
Just as OgNasty said a topic was raised for him and in your own case it might be more difficult for people to understand because you don't always come online to post.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on March 22, 2023, 08:25:50 PM
something most of the members here might gets you tag for either account changed ownership or sold out
OP isn't going to get tagged by any reputable DT member for simply changing his password and e-mail.  There would have to be much more convincing evidence than that, like a change in writing style or a language change and that sort of thing.

If OP wants to prove he's the original owner (which he certainly doesn't have to do), the accepted way to do that is to sign a message from an address he'd previously staked.  Other than that I wouldn't worry about community reaction unless the account really did change hands, because I'm sure after announcing a return like this somebody's going to look into it.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: Adbitco on March 22, 2023, 10:06:58 PM
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OP isn't going to get tagged by any reputable DT member for simply changing his password and e-mail.  There would have to be much more convincing evidence than that, like a change in writing style or a language change and that sort of thing.

If OP wants to prove he's the original owner (which he certainly doesn't have to do), the accepted way to do that is to sign a message from an address he'd previously staked.  Other than that I wouldn't worry about community reaction unless the account really did change hands, because I'm sure after announcing a return like this somebody's going to look into it.

Yes that is a good idea of  signing a message maybe with that way he will clear all airs but that notwithstanding he can go ahead changing whatever he thinks of doing provide the account didn't change hands.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: joker_josue on March 22, 2023, 10:10:06 PM
Over the last 10 years of BitcoinTalk, I've had some periods of inactivity - even a little long periods. And when I returned to the forum after those periods, I simply resumed posting and doing my forum interventions as normal. Of course, due to this absence, it is a little more difficult at first, as we are not familiar with other users. But, the forum is a family and everything becomes normal.

Every time I returned to activity, I never had to announce or report that I was doing so, I simply logged in and posted... So your announcement was unnecessary, despite understanding the concerns.

Regarding the question of changing your email/password, it will all depend on how secure you feel with the current ones. Changing the password from time to time is not a bad thing, and we are not obliged to have the same email address for life either. As long as at any point you can prove that you're the same person from day one, that's no problem.

So welcome back and try to stick around! I only regret being away a few times...  ::)





Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: bettercrypto on March 22, 2023, 11:03:55 PM
Greetings mates.
I have been inconsistent for awhile now I know have missed lots of update around the forum and concerning the latest happening within the cryptospace. I have thought of changing my password reason being that I am no longer secure with it, I don't know what happened to my browser in my absence for the number of days I wasn't active, usually I don't really give attention to the forum due to family challenges includes wife, children and parents. Also noticed I lost access to my email used in registering my account I have thought of changing it as well but something in me kept saying don't change while my instinct keep telling me to change it, I have tried to recover email happens but that the mobile number I used wasn't there I know the stress involved while trying to retrieve my stolen line so alternatively changing mail will be the best option for me currently. So I thought of posting here to know if i am that free to make any changes or i should continue using it that way without any changes.

My question is; what will be my fate if I can't have access to my btt account and then what about my mail I don't have access to. Please let experts update me based on this issues.

I love you all.

In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with changing your password if you're still actively using the email you used here on the forum. It's possible that you just forgot the password so you changed it through the email you used here. Because you haven't been active in years or months.

      But you can't get rid of others here thinking that you bought or hacked the account. You may be telling the truth, but such things should not be said here in the public forum. But if you can't access your email and password here in the forum, chances are high that your email and bitcointalk account has been hacked. But anyway, if you become active again, welcome back to the crypto space here on this platform.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: Cryptomiles1 on March 22, 2023, 11:18:44 PM
First I have to welcome you back to the forum, I would advise you to develop yourself and calm your heart down to read the latest news around the forum.
Then lastly there's no panic changing your login details, it's free of charge if you wishes to change email and login pin, so you wouldn't have created a post over it rather than just changed it yourself without any stress.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: PX-Z on March 22, 2023, 11:50:32 PM
My question is; what will be my fate if I can't have access to my btt account and then what about my mail I don't have access to. Please let experts update me based on this issues.
It's the same obvious reason having any important account in any website online.
In fact, changing password regularly is one of the most recommended way to secure your online account.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: MainIbem on March 23, 2023, 12:11:13 AM
I never wanted to make any public announcement but I believe is good to know people's opinions towards such scenario because I wouldn't like to encounter any difficulties with my profile, @The sceptical Chymist thank for the clarification if there's any need I will do that asap. Sorry I also noticed the change of your names, congratulations sir.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: Nwada001 on March 23, 2023, 01:36:06 AM
I like reading through threads like this to learn and add to my knowledge, but if not for this thread, I do think most times that it's suspicious and at the same time a crime to change details, especially those of emails, from the original to something new, especially for an account that is ranked above full member.
 
Sometimes it's just better to do something quietly without any form of alarm and be prepared to explain later, if need be. Just as a few other members have said here, they could have overlooked the account even if you start being active again after a long break, unless you violate any forum rules that will warrant further investigation. Either they will detect your change details and add them up as evidence, or you are probably doing a total different thing than what you were known for before your long break from the forum. 


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: BlackBoss_ on March 23, 2023, 01:43:11 AM
I have been inconsistent for awhile now I know have missed lots of update around the forum
A seclog (https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php) page shows information related to account changes like password changed, password reset via email, email changed, manual recovery, wokeup.
Password reset log (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=827927.0)

It does not say any account was hacked.

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I have thought of changing my password reason being that I am no longer secure with it
You could write this topic so you have access to your account with current password and you can change it without need to access your email.

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Also noticed I lost access to my email used in registering my account I have thought of changing it as well but something in me kept saying don't change while my instinct keep telling me to change it, I have tried to recover email happens but that the mobile number I used wasn't there I know the stress involved while trying to retrieve my stolen line so alternatively changing mail will be the best option for me currently.
The best is try to recover your email access because forum accounts can be hacked by user emails. It's common.

You can change your password and your email to a new one if you no longer want to use your lost email.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: Maus0728 on March 23, 2023, 03:08:53 AM
You can just sign a message from your previously staked address in this thread[1] if you are worried about your account being suspicious to other members (which isn't likely). Here is an example[2] of mine when I changed my email address like a few months ago.

It's pretty optional though since you don't need to prove yourself to other members especially if it is for security purposes.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.msg53425606#msg53425606
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5408323.msg60667131#msg60667131


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: Charles-Tim on March 23, 2023, 09:21:04 AM
You can just sign a message from your previously staked address in this thread[1] if you are worried about your account being suspicious to other members (which isn't likely). Here is an example[2] of mine when I changed my email address like a few months ago.
Assuming I am an account farmer, I opened a Bitcointalk account and built it to full member or higher rank. Before it ranked up, I staked bitcoin address, or even joined one signature campaign. Later, if I sold the account for which was my initial intention, or later intention, the account buyer can have some experience about this forum, he can ask for the private key of the address I used to sign a message which I can give the person.

I am not an account farmer, but I am just using myself as an example of what possible scenario that could happen while buying Bitcointalk account. Signing a message with your bitcoin staked address can be a way to know the ownership of an account, but it may not go up to buying Bitcointalk account because the seller can handover the private key of the staked address to the buyer.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: Lucius on March 23, 2023, 11:49:25 AM
~snip~

Of course, a BTT account can be sold without anyone noticing, because I saw in some of the threads that those who sell BTT accounts offer everything, including the private key of the signed address, and the password of the e-mail with which the account is connected. The only change can be seen in the IP address, but that's not information that we can see publicly anyway.

A signed message from a staked address does not necessarily mean that someone is the original owner of that address, but that he just came into possession of the private key of that same address.



Changing your password from time to time is not a bad thing, unless of course you replace a strong and unique password with a weak and predictable one.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on March 23, 2023, 12:57:20 PM
The OP has only been away for a few months. Should this be a public concern? Where are the rules written so that every time we decide not to visit the forum for a while, we have to prove that the account belongs to the real owner?
Yes, there are times when they start to suspect someone, but it all comes down to several facts: a long period of inactivity, a change in posting, language, and style.
The forum is turning into some kind of digital fear camp, where people report on every step.
OP, stop acting like an addict; you don't owe anyone anything. And it is precise with this behavior that you make people look at you more carefully.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: Pokapoka124 on March 23, 2023, 01:28:01 PM
Signing a message with your bitcoin staked address can be a way to know the ownership of an account, but it may not go up to buying Bitcointalk account because the seller can handover the private key of the staked address to the buyer.
There are other ways to detect sold accounts apart from change of bitcoin address. Posting style and change of local language are other indicators that the account has changed hands. I don’t think I have seen any case where an account was tagged only because they changed posting style so it seems that alone is not a strong enough reason to tag an account. Like Charles-Tim, I wonder if signing a messages with staked address is the only way to verify ownership of an account


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: Pandu Geddon on March 23, 2023, 01:39:39 PM
OP, because you yourself understand your need for security from the browser you use to access the forum. or any wallet extensions you may be using. if indeed you experience an unpleasant, or suspicious experience from your browser. You can secure your account in the way that you have used it.
there will be no problem with changing your account password. or even if you change your email when you can't access email. if you are the account owner.

but to clear any doubts from forum members, since indeed you have opened this thread, you can sign messages with the BTC address you used for the past year or even older. not with the address you just posted this year.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: Eureka_07 on March 23, 2023, 01:50:25 PM
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My question is; what will be my fate if I can't have access to my btt account and then what about my mail I don't have access to. Please let experts update me based on this issues.
If you set a secret password, then you can use that. If not, then I do not see any other way for you to recover the account.
Except... I guess if you have staked an address before and you sign a message using that. By doing that, you can convince anyone that you are the owner of the account.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: rat03gopoh on March 23, 2023, 02:22:02 PM
Since you keep posting this address in the past year,
bc1qvgh8gupx8a7vuzwccxwvdupsew7mgkx9hl7w9v
I think this is enough to maintain the assumption that you're the original owner of the account. Then just sign this address as @Maus0728's instructions above. This is a classic way that is still valid to claim a lost account.

Your trust may be reduced by a few points if you change email. But that's actually fine, considering that your account doesn't have any significant business records so far.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: Lucius on March 23, 2023, 02:25:13 PM
Like Charles-Tim, I wonder if signing a messages with staked address is the only way to verify ownership of an account

It is not the only way, but it is perhaps the simplest. Another way is to analyze IP addresses, and if I'm not mistaken, only admin/s have access to this data.

A few years ago, a member got a permanent ban for plagiarism and then complained that the problematic post was actually from the previous owner, from whom he bought a BTT account. Admim then intervened and analyzed the IP addresses and concluded that the account had indeed changed owners at one point. It is not something that is done every day and for everyone, but it is possible to determine the change of owner in this way in some specific situations.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: salad daging on March 23, 2023, 02:34:24 PM
OP, because you yourself understand your need for security from the browser you use to access the forum. or any wallet extensions you may be using. if indeed you experience an unpleasant, or suspicious experience from your browser. You can secure your account in the way that you have used it.
there will be no problem with changing your account password. or even if you change your email when you can't access email. if you are the account owner.
That is the right if he is the original owner, because what I know is changing the password and email only to increase security to prevent unwanted things, for example, doubts with a password that is not strong.
So for the OP it's not a problem it's up to you to change it or not what is clear is that several other people have also improved this.

but to clear any doubts from forum members, since indeed you have opened this thread, you can sign messages with the BTC address you used for the past year or even older. not with the address you just posted this year.
I don't think the OP has ever staked a BTC address in the "stake your bitcoin address here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0)" thread so this would be very confusing if he wanted to sign his btc address message.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on March 23, 2023, 03:43:58 PM
My question is; what will be my fate if I can't have access to my btt account and then what about my mail I don't have access to. Please let experts update me based on this issues.

Why should you make use of a mail address you haven't created yet, then you still go ahead after registration not to create that same email address, you're only compiling heap of trouble accumulation on yourself for another day problem, even if you were able to signed a message through your forum account and stake your bitcoin address, I don't think you can access it because you will still requires your email for a password reset and the likes, now that you know, take heed.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: MainIbem on March 23, 2023, 04:58:21 PM
My question is; what will be my fate if I can't have access to my btt account and then what about my mail I don't have access to. Please let experts update me based on this issues.

Why should you make use of a mail address you haven't created yet, then you still go ahead after registration not to create that same email address, you're only compiling heap of trouble accumulation on yourself for another day problem, even if you were able to signed a message through your forum account and stake your bitcoin address, I don't think you can access it because you will still requires your email for a password reset and the likes, now that you know, take heed.

Do you read my messages clearly sir??
I never said of using a random mail rather, the mobile number which I used in creating my mail have been stolen and whenever I tried sending reset password they keep send OTP to the missing mobile number which I thought of change my forum mail would be ideal than going through stress to renew my lost line.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: BITCOIN4X on March 23, 2023, 06:43:51 PM
I thought of change my forum mail would be ideal than going through stress to renew my lost line.
It should be safe for you to change your password and email without telling anyone why. Questions often arise when an account changes password and email at the same time, but that's only because some people suspect that the account has changed hands. After all not everyone would throw their suspicions of anyone against the wall without any proof, so I think you'll be safe with this move.

If you can prove it by signing message, then it's much safer for you without worrying about how to recover your email. The best advice is always use an active email on your account so that you can easily recover your account when it is lost or hacked.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: dkbit98 on March 23, 2023, 11:15:51 PM
MainIbem you posted a lot of Bitcoin and Ethereum addresses in forum since year 2017, and if you can prove ownership of this addresses than nobody will suspect you purchased this account.
Your long periods of forum inactivity, your post history and asking questions like this could be suspicious for some members, so better get those addresses ready, unless you also conveniently lose them  ::)

PS
There is nothing wrong with changing email address and connected account password, that should be unique and randomly generated.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on March 24, 2023, 12:00:23 AM
People have different approaches to how they contribute to the forum; if you are not the true owner of this account, the new user will definitely not represent the account the way you will because you are both different people, so if the account is less productive in good posts, it can easily be detected by some moderators before due action will be taken.


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: macson on March 24, 2023, 06:01:54 AM
from what i have noticed on several accounts that change passwords and emails, the possibility that will happen to your account is tagging done by DT members because it is very difficult to prove whether you have not done anything forbidden (account theft or account sale) on that account.  the advice from 'the sceptical chymist' is good enough so that you can prove your authenticity as the owner of the account, although it is possible that the DT team will still tag your account, all decisions are yours!


Title: Re: Changing password and mail wrong thing?
Post by: MainIbem on March 24, 2023, 09:42:04 AM
Thank you all for your opinion, I will have to lock this thread since there are many repeated answers.